Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #100 Managing Bedtime as a Solo Parent
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's a Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coulson, the
- 0:02Speaker 1: podcast for the time Poor parent who just wants Answers
- 0:05Speaker 1: Now Where Luke and Susie a husband and wife radio
- 0:08Speaker 1: team and the parents are three young boys, and today
- 0:11Speaker 1: we're talking about bedtime when you're on your own. A
- 0:15Speaker 1: question from Elease today Luke is a little bit devastating.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It's a bit heartbreaking because it's parenting in a way
- 0:21Speaker 1: that none of us expect to. We always go into
- 0:23Speaker 1: parenthood expecting that this is a team game. But Elisa's
- 0:26Speaker 1: found herself in a difficult situation has written through to
- 0:29Speaker 1: the show looking for some advice. Today she says, I'm
- 0:31Speaker 1: a widow with three kids. They're seven, five and three.
- 0:34Speaker 1: How do solo parents or those doing night routines on
- 0:37Speaker 1: their own get their kids to stay in the rooms
- 0:39Speaker 1: at bedtime when you can't divide and conquer to say
- 0:42Speaker 1: good night. She's procrastinating from going to bed and staying there.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Ouch to answer that question, somebody who's a little bit
- 0:49Speaker 2: wiser and more experience than us is doctor Justin Coulson,
- 0:52Speaker 2: who is once again joining us. Justin, this is a
- 0:57Speaker 2: pretty difficult scenario for us to address. Because there's no
- 1:00Speaker 2: lighthearted whimsic all of this. Here's a mum in the
- 1:02Speaker 2: worst case scenario after having three kids to lose a husband.
- 1:06Speaker 3: Yeah, and so young, seven, five, and three. I consistently say,
- 1:11Speaker 3: I don't know how single parents do it. It's just
- 1:15Speaker 3: such a tough gig, especially with young families. And I
- 1:19Speaker 3: have to be honest, I don't think that there are
- 1:21Speaker 3: any easy answers. I mean, I wish I could just
- 1:23Speaker 3: pull this solution out of my pocket and say, well,
- 1:24Speaker 3: this is all that she needs to do, but it
- 1:28Speaker 3: kind of doesn't work like that. I mean, there are
- 1:30Speaker 3: things like priorities and organizational skills and having a good routine,
- 1:34Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, if you're trying
- 1:35Speaker 3: to put that three year old down in the three
- 1:36Speaker 3: or old won't go to sleep, and the five year
- 1:38Speaker 3: old's messing around, and the seven year old's trying to
- 1:40Speaker 3: be the mum or be the dad, and I mean,
- 1:42Speaker 3: it's just it's rough.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can only imagine. I mean, all of
- 1:46Speaker 1: us feel tired at the end of the day. And
- 1:48Speaker 1: when it comes to doing the night routine, how much
- 1:50Speaker 1: do you want to just put the kids in their room,
- 1:52Speaker 1: turn the light out and say just go sleep.
- 1:54Speaker 3: Yeah, or you can give them an eye pattern just.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Yes, set them off, But I mean payoff and reward
- 2:01Speaker 1: obviously in taking the time for the cuddles, the reading
- 2:04Speaker 1: the story, the tucking them in, the saying good night.
- 2:07Speaker 1: But what if it's not working, What if even after
- 2:09Speaker 1: that they're still just getting up and up and up.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:11Speaker 3: Yeah, again, no easy answers in this situation. I often
- 2:16Speaker 3: offer some reassurance that this will pass. But there are
- 2:20Speaker 3: a couple of things that we can do that could
- 2:22Speaker 3: at least be a little bit practical and a little
- 2:24Speaker 3: bit helpful. I think that one of the most helpful
- 2:28Speaker 3: things that we can do is give the seven year
- 2:30Speaker 3: old some gentle responsibility. So maybe the seven year old
- 2:34Speaker 3: can read to the five year old, or the seven
- 2:35Speaker 3: year old can have a job to do that they
- 2:37Speaker 3: actually really like, that makes them feel important and big
- 2:39Speaker 3: and good, and that kind of at least takes care
- 2:42Speaker 3: of that child. Let the seven year old know that
- 2:44Speaker 3: because they're a bit older, they get to stay up
- 2:46Speaker 3: half an hour later. And I'd really be focusing heavily
- 2:49Speaker 3: on consistency in that sleep routine. So the three year
- 2:53Speaker 3: old is obviously going to be the first one. Maybe
- 2:55Speaker 3: the three and five year old together they can both
- 2:57Speaker 3: go to sleep. Let's say, for example seven point thirty,
- 3:00Speaker 3: which means that dinner is cleared away by seven, they
- 3:04Speaker 3: have their bath until seven fifteen, they brush their teeth,
- 3:07Speaker 3: and then they hop into bed and they're ready for
- 3:09Speaker 3: sleep at seven point thirty, and you put them in
- 3:12Speaker 3: your bed, read them that story, spend that really special
- 3:16Speaker 3: time with them, just giving them big hugs, and keep
- 3:18Speaker 3: them together. Once they're asleep, you can move them to
- 3:20Speaker 3: their own beds, you know, at eight point thirty, when
- 3:23Speaker 3: you've dealt with the seven year old and put the
- 3:25Speaker 3: seven year old a bit as well. But really routines Kylie,
- 3:29Speaker 3: my wife and I have found, and again it's a
- 3:31Speaker 3: different scenario. We've got the two of us, but with
- 3:35Speaker 3: six children life can get pretty complicated. We've found that
- 3:39Speaker 3: the answer to the universe and everything, the solution to
- 3:43Speaker 3: marital bliss, the solution to family well being and happiness
- 3:47Speaker 3: is dinner at five point thirty's.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I can see it and pro that there are times
- 3:53Speaker 2: when our kids were younger and we did that. It
- 3:55Speaker 2: fit everything. In the bedtimes and there's bath times and
- 3:58Speaker 2: all that stuff just fit Yeah, the later it got,
- 4:02Speaker 2: the harder it was.
- 4:04Speaker 3: Now, let's be really clear, most families can't actually do
- 4:07Speaker 3: thirty and if you're a single mum, it's probably going
- 4:12Speaker 3: to be even harder to do that. There are so
- 4:15Speaker 3: many other ways that we have to try to juggle
- 4:18Speaker 3: and get this happening. So a couple of my other
- 4:20Speaker 3: practical solutions that that are probably completely impractical and laughable
- 4:24Speaker 3: for anybody who's really dealing with it, but they're the
- 4:26Speaker 3: best that I've got in a messy, complicated, icky kind
- 4:29Speaker 3: of world. Spend your Saturday or your Sunday with some
- 4:32Speaker 3: friends doing a cook up so that you've got three
- 4:35Speaker 3: or four meals prepped for the week, so that on
- 4:37Speaker 3: Monday when it's chaos, and Wednesday and Thursday when it's
- 4:39Speaker 3: absolutely crazy, you've got those meals. They're in the fridge,
- 4:42Speaker 3: all the veggies are chopped, all the meats cook, everything's
- 4:44Speaker 3: ready to go. You've just got to reheat. You save
- 4:46Speaker 3: money and you save time, and you can still actually
- 4:49Speaker 3: so and.
- 4:50Speaker 1: The seven and the five year old are well old
- 4:51Speaker 1: enough to be even the three year old's got tasks
- 4:53Speaker 1: they can do in the kitchen to help help.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and bring them in. I mean, we don't
- 4:57Speaker 3: want to burden them and make it awful for them.
- 4:59Speaker 3: But let's let's make it fun. Let's play some music.
- 5:02Speaker 3: And maybe that's probably the last thing that I would say.
- 5:05Speaker 3: You're feeling heavy, you're feeling exhausted, You're just lots so
- 5:08Speaker 3: much going on. But if we can lighten the load
- 5:11Speaker 3: a little, if we can make time for laughter and
- 5:15Speaker 3: for dancing, and for music and for genuinely enjoying and connecting,
- 5:19Speaker 3: making those mornings and those evenings nurturing and magical at
- 5:23Speaker 3: least a little bit of the time, the burden does
- 5:26Speaker 3: become lighter.
- 5:29Speaker 2: It sounds to me like most of what you've said,
- 5:31Speaker 2: in a practical sense, is about creating space in the time.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Right now it might feel burdensome and stressful, that you know,
- 5:39Speaker 2: if they go to bed a little bit later, a
- 5:40Speaker 2: little bit outside of the rules of what is normally
- 5:43Speaker 2: best practice. There not only is Mum grieving, but so
- 5:45Speaker 2: are these so are these children. Create space for that
- 5:49Speaker 2: to be okay, for it to be different.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Sure, we still want to have some routine. We don't
- 5:54Speaker 3: want to be too flexible, but we don't be too
- 5:57Speaker 3: rigid either. A routine is key. Bringing in support is critical,
- 6:02Speaker 3: setting up systems, like I said on the weekend, doing
- 6:05Speaker 3: that extra cooking that kind of thing will will be
- 6:08Speaker 3: a lifesaver, and then having the just spond to follow
- 6:11Speaker 3: through actually making it happen. Wow, that's the hardest part.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I mean, I guess a big part too is if
- 6:16Speaker 2: you hearing this story and you know somebody in your
- 6:20Speaker 2: world who might be in a situation that you can
- 6:23Speaker 2: say is equivalent in some way to that single parent, widow, widower,
- 6:28Speaker 2: then maybe you could be someone to reach out and
- 6:31Speaker 2: actually offer some support, to say how can I how
- 6:34Speaker 2: can I help? And whether it's a meal, or whether
- 6:36Speaker 2: it's a babysitting, or whether it's a give the parent
- 6:38Speaker 2: a break, to actually take this prompt. If this isn't
- 6:41Speaker 2: you then step in for someone who the story is about.
- 6:44Speaker 3: I just I'm so glad you said that. I love that.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world
- 6:48Speaker 3: I saw a video a couple of years ago about
- 6:50Speaker 3: a lady who was part of a church community. She
- 6:53Speaker 3: had a terrible debilitating disease that meant that she was
- 6:57Speaker 3: in a wheelchair during the day and she actually couldn't
- 6:59Speaker 3: get into bed at night. This was an ongoing issue,
- 7:03Speaker 3: it was never going to be resolved, and her church
- 7:05Speaker 3: community actually came to her and said, we have a solution.
- 7:09Speaker 3: We're going to send two men from our congregation to
- 7:13Speaker 3: you every single night for as long as we need to,
- 7:16Speaker 3: even if it's the next twenty years, and they're going
- 7:18Speaker 3: to help you out of your wheelchair and into bed
- 7:21Speaker 3: each night. And what a lot of the men were
- 7:24Speaker 3: grumbling and going.
- 7:26Speaker 1: And I can't believe it.
- 7:27Speaker 3: And they started to talk about how it had changed
- 7:31Speaker 3: their hearts and they actually looked forward to that opportunity
- 7:33Speaker 3: where they could go and connect with this lady and
- 7:35Speaker 3: do this service. If you know somebody, what a great
- 7:39Speaker 3: thing to do.
- 7:39Speaker 2: How wonderful, wonderful, wonderful wrap up of a very difficult story.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And our prayers go out to the family and dealing
- 7:48Speaker 2: with the grief that they've got.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Thank you, doctor Justin Colson for appreciate your time.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Wish we could do more, but I'm glad that. I
- 7:53Speaker 3: hope that's helpful.
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