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Mondo Gonzales: How Will Trump's Victory Impact Bible Prophecy, Israel? · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Hey friends, welcome to World View Matters.
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Thank you so much for tuning in.
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We're going to talk about prophecy today, talk about Israel, talk about how some reacted
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to the election results, and I'm blessed to bring in Mondo Gonzales, and he's with Prophecy
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Watchers, got a great podcast this week in Bible prophecy, and we have prophecywatchers.com.
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Mondo, thanks for taking the time with us today.
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It's always good to be here.
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Yep, so before we jump into some of the articles and topics and just fun things to talk
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about, tell us where you're at.
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Because that doesn't look like your studio or your office there.
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And you got a big smile on your face, something about your daughter or what?
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Yes, my daughter, my youngest daughter is getting married tomorrow, so we are out here
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to see her married off, which is good.
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Good, good guys, she's getting married too, so we're happy about it.
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Oh good.
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As long as he's a good guy, he's a believer, and we'll pray that you make it back safely
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from the left coast.
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So you did a program, by the way, I want to tell people about the Psalm 19 project again,
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which we talked about.
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I think last time when you were on maybe the time before, just phenomenal photography.
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And there's just some great information on there about astronomy and things like that.
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So make sure to check that out.
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So you did a program, also Gary also did on Prophecy Watchers with Steve Quail.
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And this is one of those topics I was watching, I'm going, okay, I'm trying to follow
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and just some of the topics get into stuff that's cannot exactly in the Bible, but when
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you're talking about the apples of the earth and the universe or stars, so tell us about
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what was the top, one of the topics, we'll Steve talked with Gary on mysterious orbs
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and portals, but I saw the program that you did with him, the interview that you did
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with him.
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I don't have it in front of me, don't know what the title of that one was.
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Mando, tell us about that and know you're into astronomy and the stars and all that.
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So that must have been interesting to you.
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So for people that don't keep up with that and hear that and go, oh, tell us about that.
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This is the fun part of what we do in the sense of, as we know that the Bible speaks about
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many things, but it doesn't speak about all things and we do know that, again, the Bible
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gives us a framework that we are operating in a supernatural world that there is an unseen
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realm behind the veil, the Bible is complete with instances of that.
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So again, we believe, this is, I'll just say this way, oftentimes, even as a pastor,
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as Christians, we read in the Bible about Jesus interacting, again, casting out demons
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or just Daniel chapter 10, the unseen realm.
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But we tend to think that those supernatural elements are only on the pages of the Bible
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that we don't look out on our current world and think, oh, is that really true?
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Well, of course, it's true.
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Those things haven't gone away, Satan hasn't gone on vacation, the fallen angels have
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not gone on vacation.
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There is a kingdom of darkness that is still there behind the scenes operating and going
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towards this goal that we understand as being the end of the age when the dragon gives
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all of his power to a certain figure.
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So I just encourage Christians to always keep an open mind to some of these things.
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That doesn't mean we have the answers to everything, and one of the things that Steve
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Quail has done is he likes to, he likes to, what's the phrase in the sense of, take it to
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the limit.
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And so in the sense of the, take the audible up all the way to the edge.
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And so one of the things that he did in his recent DVD was talking about these, these
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evidence that we see in the sky or orbs and spirals and other things, and he was seeing
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them as possibly being portals that were opened up for, you know, demonic entities or other
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things.
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And so, you know, I think it's, it's a fascinating thing to explore and, and to discover
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and really just did like, could this be true?
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Yeah.
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So we're going to talk about Israel in a minute and Benjamin Netanyahu, his response
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to President Trump winning the election, and, and I want to get your take on that.
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But we've talked a little bit about this before.
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How do you look at it, Mondo, because you're fascinated by this as well?
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UFOs, you know, I've heard, you know, demonic spirits, you know, we hear all kinds of different
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things.
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In other words, not just poo-pooing them all together.
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So what's your take on that, because I mean, portals, or that's just like, okay, that's
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hard for me to jump to, but what about UFOs?
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Yes.
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Let's make a distinction there.
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That's hard for me to jump to as well.
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But when we think about UFOs, that that's not hard at all.
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I mean, there's no doubt what we've seen from 2017 on with this disclosure.
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I mean, our government's having meetings about it.
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There happen another one coming up here soon, too, as well.
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But they're creating these programs, these administrations, these offices in order to
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a-tip and others in order to communicate with each other.
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So this is way beyond, you know, tinfoil hat stuff when our governments get involved.
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The evidence is overwhelming that there's something there.
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Now, what I've seen, at least in, and all the things is, at least publicly and even
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publicly, we don't know exactly what they are.
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They seem to have a sinister mentality behind them, that's for sure.
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But the fact of the matter is, it's undeniable what's there, and there's a mysterious idea
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to it.
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And as I just mentioned, we shouldn't be surprised by this because we know that there's
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other characters, real beings, powerful beings that are operating in the unseen realm behind.
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So, in that aspect, as we look prophetically, I was talking to somebody their day, and
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I thought, you know, let's fast forward 100 years or 500 years, and we're sitting in
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the millennium.
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There's Jesus ruling and raining on earth, and we're sitting there going, well, that's
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kind of weird.
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You know, why didn't the UFO phenomenon have any part to play in any of that's awfully
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odd, that all the years of that, and it really didn't play anything?
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I don't think we're going to be saying that.
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Interesting.
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It's another area of just a fascinating area to look at and try to get some information,
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balanced information, and not take it too far by making assumptions, you know, with
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the Bible.
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But, yeah, I mean, the spirit realm is very real, if we could only see.
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We get little hints of it, and the Old Testament, and Daniel, we get revelation.
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Ephesians 6, you know, forces of darkness.
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I mean, the spiritual wickedness in it, high places.
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So, Mando, let's talk about Benjamin Netna, who now, and his response to Donald Trump
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winning the election, first of all, one of the things, the subtitles I was going to talk
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about today, as far as the podcast with you, how does President Trump's victory impact
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Israel, geopolitics, but let's talk about his reaction.
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He said it was a huge victory, and there's an article that says, Israel Prime Minister
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Benjamin Netanyahu, among first world leaders to congratulate Donald Trump on victory.
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So I would imagine, and I'll let you chime in, there's a little bit of relief from Israel
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due to this election, your thoughts?
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Oh, 100%.
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You know, the, what you see in American, Israeli politics goes back, of course, a long
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ways, as we know, you know, a lot of the peace agreements have been initiated and finalized
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by U.S. presidents.
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So what you, and the latest round, I think goes back to the Obama administration, there's
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no doubt Obama was one of the most anti-Israel presidents ever, and yet we had eight years
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of that.
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And then if you tag on Biden adding another four years of that same type of policy, there's
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no doubt there.
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And as we see even, even in Israel, 60, 70% of Israelis would want a Trump to be voted
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in rather than Kamala.
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So I think Netanyahu, let's remember, he is the longest serving Prime Minister ever in
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the history in Israel, and he also is a politician.
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He's a very good politician.
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And so he, there was a lot of rejoicing when Trump won, and so as you would expect, being
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a good politician, one of the first people to call and congratulate Trump.
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No surprise there.
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So what you saw and what you would have seen as relates to Kamala or Trump, 100% night
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and day difference.
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Now what's going to be interesting is we have the next few months, or at least November
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December, will the current Biden administration do similar things to what Obama did in his
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last couple of months in office, which was very betrayal.
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It betrayed Israel several times, a U.N. resolution two to four.
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I mean, it was, it was horrible what Obama did in his final hours to Israel.
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Will, will Biden do the same thing?
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And will it be such that it can't be undone?
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Yeah.
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That, I'm watching that carefully.
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Yeah, will Biden do the same thing?
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We know it's not Biden.
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It's those behind Biden in the deep state, which is probably Obama Pelosi.
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You know, and everybody else, but the statement says that Trump and Netanyahu agreed to work
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together for Israel's security.
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And they also discussed the Iranian threat.
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And this was hours after the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas said Trump's incoming administration
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in January must work seriously to stop the war.
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What do you think about that, Mondo?
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That's fascinating to me as well.
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I think the, there's no doubt Hamas wants to remain in existence.
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And you know what?
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And Netanyahu will not have it.
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He wouldn't have it even with the current Biden administration.
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So I think there's no doubt Trump's comments that he's made over the past year.
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And it's been very clear.
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Number one, Trump is very wise to the Iran situation,
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enough to pull us out of the deal and everything else.
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So we know he's been on that.
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He's not, he's not foolish.
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The second thing though, there's no doubt that Trump has come out and said,
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listen, Israel needs to get this done and get it done quickly,
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clean it up so that we can then look forward to coming to some sort of understanding
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of what a peace agreement might look like.
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So I do think that based on Trump's comments,
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he's going to give a little bit more of a freeer hand.
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But I don't think his patience will last that long, honestly,
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because he's been operating on a platform of not having war, not promoting war.
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And so I think he's going to feel committed, certainly to Israel, no doubt,
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but also to have it done quick.
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Because at, let's remember, and Trump did this in his first administration,
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presidents, politicians, they want a legacy.
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And how many presidents in the last 50, 60, 70 years have wanted the legacy
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of being the one that finalized a peace treaty in the Middle East.
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Trump is no different.
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We saw that with his deal of the century plan going back.
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And of course, I think there's a little bit of naive thinking a lot on these presidents
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because they don't understand Middle Eastern history and the religious situation
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and even prophetically.
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So what are your thoughts on?
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I think Netanyahu and Israel kind of wise up after a while
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and they stopped listening to Biden and the Democrats
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and whoever's behind the White House.
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And so they've been making more progress in that amount of time
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when they stopped listening to America sadly.
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What are your thoughts on that?
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Because I know, hopefully, Lord Willing,
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that's going to all shift come January 20th
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when the Trump administration takes over.
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Yeah, I think there's been a couple things that I think contribute to that.
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One of them is, if we think about Netanyahu, Netanyahu stopped listening primarily.
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Of course, he has an existential threat, but that's he's got to do it no matter what.
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But as the election came to be closer,
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he stopped listening more because he knew that there was a potential window
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that he had.
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Because imagine if Kamala would have got elected, he knew I got to get this done
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because Kamala couldn't really be who she was told to be
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by, like, as we mentioned, by the powers playing the strings
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because of their need for the Jewish electorate.
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So I think Netanyahu, again, being very savvy,
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realized that number one, I have the existential threat.
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But secondly, I have a window now.
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I'm going to stop listening, do everything I can in this window.
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I think now it'll be interesting, again, going back.
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Will he, how will he handle this two months,
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there's, you know, basically till January 20th, a two month window,
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when there's the potential for, again, the Biden administration to completely
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stab them in the back.
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Will he try to be careful and not provoking them and just wait till January?
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In my opinion, I think as a politician, he probably is going to wait.
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I don't think he's going to try to push the envelope for the next two months
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in order to aggravate and to potentially bring something that might,
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he might, that might bite him in the butt.
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When all he has to wait is still a 20th of January.
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Yeah, fascinating how this is playing out.
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It's really interesting.
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By way, friends, we're with Mando Gonzalez, prophecywatchers.com.
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One more quote, and then we'll take a brief pause here.
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According to another news outlet, tension between Washington,
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meaning the White House, and Tel Aviv has written,
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written sharply over the last year with President Biden and others criticizing
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Israel's tactics in its multi front war with Iranian back groups in the
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Middle East.
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And Netanyahu said, quote, your, speaking to Trump, your historic return to
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the White House offers a new beginning for America and a powerful
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recommitment to the great alliance between Israel and America and, quote,
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so when we come back with Mando Gonzalez, we're talking about how
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important is it for not only America, but Christians and those who uphold
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the biblical worldview to support and pray for Israel.
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We'll be right back on World View Matters.
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Mando Gonzalez, by the way, the program I was referring to at the top with Steve
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Quill that you did is called have the gates of hell been opened.
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Mando, you talk about, you're trying to be really, you know, it's like, wow,
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let's let's let's, that's an attention getter, right?
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A little provocative, but it was a really interesting interview.
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And so you guys can watch it.
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It's it's actually off over on the, you got it linked on the home page.
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But anyway, where are you going?
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You said you're going to Europe soon for a conference.
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What are you going to be doing over there?
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Yes, we leave here in the middle of November.
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We're going to be heading.
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I'm going to go with Billy Cron, Brandon Holthouse, Ken Michael.
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Trouble makers will be there.
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We're going, we're starting in Scotland.
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And so we're going to be doing a conference, a prophecy conference there.
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And then we're going to be going to Switzerland, Bern, Switzerland,
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to be doing a prophecy conference there.
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And then finally to Northern Ireland.
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And as we know, Europe is very post-Christian.
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So we've had an opportunity to help start Bible studies and other home groups
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knowing that our brothers and sisters around the world and these places often
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the churches don't talk prophecy.
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So they're very desperate for fellowship with one another.
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And also just to feel loved.
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I mean, we love our brothers and sisters around the world.
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And they don't often get people coming out to love on them and just to help
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them know that we're in this together as we look for the soon return of Jesus.
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And so people can check it out at either prophecywatchers.com under events.
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They can see there.
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And if you look, if people know their friends or family in these places,
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have them go sign up that you can go to to our site or get a life media.com,
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which is Billy site that scroll all the way down to his calendar.
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And people can sign up.
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It's free.
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All the conferences are free.
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So we want to see them well attended because we want to see again,
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God continue to move.
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So also we want to go on record and be one of the first to wish you a very
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Merry Christmas, everybody.
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And talk about this conference.
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You're going to be doing in Branson.
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And it's, let's see, December 5th through the 8th, my goodness.
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I mean, Alex Newman just talked to him last week.
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We've got Billy Cron.
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You're going to be there, Gary Steerman, Josh Peck.
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Tell us about this and people can just get info at your home page, right?
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prophecywatchers.com.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah, we have, we have 22 speakers joining us for this weekend.
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It's, it's, it's actually, I mean, these are all everybody's favorites.
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And, you know, prophecywatchers, you know, I've been here for three years,
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but it is well, it is known for the mega conferences so that we're going
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to have again, so many speakers, we're going to have, you know, double that,
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the messages and the fascinating thing that we're seeing this already is,
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we know now who's going to be the next president, at least Lord willing,
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right?
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And, but so the people that speakers are going to be talking about the
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prophetic developments of what that looks like.
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Again, all of us, we recognize that nobody believes that Trump is the
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savior. That's Jesus Christ.
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We know that.
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That's obvious, but there's no doubt that this new administration is going
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to change things prophetically, no doubt, and how the United States interacts
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with globalism, castle systems, digital currencies, everything else that every
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administration changes that.
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And so if we're going to be talking about all those things and more, Amen, brother,
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that sounds exciting.
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Christmas in Branson, December 5th through the day.
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I'm looking at the list of the usual culprits and they bet most of them have
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been on World View Matters.
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I love it.
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JB Hickson, Brandon Holthouse.
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Let's see Bill Canig, Terry James, Ken Michael, Lee Brainer, you, of course,
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Alex Newman, what a lineup, man.
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So guys go to prophecywatchers.com right there on the homepage.
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So Mando, I got this from another friend of ours, Cheryl Chumley,
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Washington Times journalist and she made Israel's top 50 Christian allies list.
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I don't know if you're familiar with this list, but evangelist Franklin Graham,
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former secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, there's a Texas pastor on their Larry
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Hutch and they were among the top pro-Israel leaders named and Patricia
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Heaton is on there.
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Remember her from everybody loves Raymond.
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She's very outspoken pro-life actress and activist for the life,
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life in the mother's womb, but Cheryl Chumley was recognized.
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And I would just want to mention this and then get your take on leaders supporting
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Israel because we don't have enough in the United States.
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But they noted that Cheryl Chumley among others have been particularly vocal
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in their faith-based advocacy since Hamas terrorists attacked Israel October 7, 2023.
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It cited Chumley's contributions to discussions on political and social issues
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across various platforms and she went, of course, to visit Israel.
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She's a supporter of Israel as most of us hopefully are.
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So Mando, just speak to that for a moment.
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I think there's been some false teachings in the church,
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replacement theology and so many other things that have caused problems
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within the Christian church in America.
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So talk to the importance of that.
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You know, this to me is close to my heart.
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I mean, my undergrad degree is in Jewish studies because I really felt
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strongly that I needed to understand the Jewish frame of reference for the Bible.
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Well, obviously, to understand the Bible.
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And you know, in my own mind, if Jesus was Chinese, I'm going to take in Chinese studies, right?
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But the fact is Jesus was born into Jewish family.
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He's still Jewish today.
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He's still a man and still Jewish.
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And so I think this is an extremely important topic.
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It's one of the things I'm going to discuss, not only in Europe,
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but also at our conference in Branson.
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Is I think this is one of the most confusing and misunderstood
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balanced approaches to how does a Christian,
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how do we support Israel?
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Why should we support Israel?
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And so I think I'll just say this that the Bible has a lot to say now about supporting Israel.
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At the end of the day, I asked the questions.
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Does Israel belong in the land?
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And the answer is unequivocally yes.
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God made promises to Israel, primarily to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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And so those promises will always be fulfilled.
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And then he has a covenant that the land is God's land,
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but he's giving it to them.
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The second question I ask is, well, does Israel deserve to be in the land?
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And I think, well, God answers that in Deuteronomy 9.
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Of course, Israel doesn't deserve to be in the land ever,
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because he calls him stubborn and stiff neck.
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But what it helps us to understand is,
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look, we don't need to support everything that the state of Israel does today.
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That, of course, not no governance perfect in any way.
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But what we do have our obligation to do is to recognize that no,
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God gave that land to them, and they have a right to be there.
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And that is based on God's promises, which he will never revoke.
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So that's important for us.
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And then to navigate the waters of what that means to support Israel's right to be there,
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but also not just for every last thing that they do.
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Of course, Christian balance is the key here.
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Yes. And there is secular nation.
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And there are Messianic Jews, but that's a great perspective.
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You said balance, Christian balance.
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So I know we only, we have under four minutes left in this podcast.
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I know you've done programs on this.
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Well, I've asked other guests, how do we reach the church in America
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and undo this wrong thinking about Israel?
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I think that a lot of this has come to my plate,
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and I wrote about this in the red in my red heifer book,
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because what you do have is, again, you have two extremes.
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You have this side over here.
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All they do is focus on the errors of the modern state of Israel, okay?
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And of course, again, looking at any government, you can point out the errors.
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So what happens is people gravitate toward those errors,
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and they think, well, that's not godly.
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Look at the way that the secular Israeli government treats Messianic Jews
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or treats Christians, or etc.
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And then you have the other side, which is Israel could do no wrong.
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And so you think, okay, let's come to the middle.
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And I think if we approach it in a way that's balanced,
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we will actually not not not not only honor the Lord,
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but I think we will be more persuasive in our conversations
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that we're not turning a blind eye to some of the things that are imperfect.
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That Israel is there and unbelief, but we knew that.
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Ezekiel 36 tells us that they would be regathered into the land and unbelief
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and that their salvation, their spiritual national salvation,
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Romans 11, 26 would come at a future time.
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So I think if we, if we stay biblically, no surprise,
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I think that we will, in balance, we're truth tellers.
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I think we will be much more successful in helping people see that the true theology
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of God's promises to Israel.
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Yes, and if you're a newer Christian, younger believer,
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you've got to do a study on Romans 9, 10, and 11.
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So you mentioned the Red Heifer ritual book.
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We talked about that last time you were on.
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It could have been the time before I lose track,
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but there's also a DVD available and that's at prophecywatchers.com.
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You can go to the store, the Red Heifer ritual by Mondo Gonzales
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and also the DVD, Randall Price as well.
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So we can watch you on Daystar, Sundays 10, 30 PM, central time.
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Tell us about this week and the Week in Bible prophecy podcast.
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I know you're on YouTube.
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Where else can people watch and listen to that?
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Yeah, if people go to prophecywatchers.com and find on the tab,
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we're going to find us.
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We are all over the place, which is television,
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you know, internet, of course, magazine.
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But are the Week in Bible Prophecy.com?
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We just do a weekly podcast, kind of giving what's happening around the world of current events,
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trying to keep people updated.
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As you know, it's almost impossible to handle everything right now.
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As we're approaching the end of the age, everything's converging.
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And there's no lack of things to discuss to show that prophecy's coming true.
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Amen, brother. Thank you for all you do.
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Just such a blessing since we connected.
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Even before that, I was watching you guys,
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love some of the interviews you do and just a lot of great information.
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The church needs to be equipped.
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The pastors generally are not doing a great job at that.
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There are some great pastors, but too many of them are not.
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So I'm so thankful for ministries like yours.
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And others that we get to rub elbows with,
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that you get to go do conferences with those speakers.
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And Christmas and Branson, man, I wish I could get away for that.
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It just sounds wonderful.
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By the way, there's going to be a DVD after the conference, right?
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The people can order.
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Yeah, I mean, even if they can't show up in person, they can do live stream.
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But then of course, the DVDs will be available afterwards of everything and more.
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We always like to add extra bonuses in there.
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Awesome.
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I'm not going to put any pressure on, but will you get that up before Christmas and available?
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Probably not.
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Probably not.
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Not the DVDs, but a lot of speakers will be available.
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Yes.
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Great.
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Great.
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Mando Gonzalez, brother, thank you.
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God bless you.
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Safe travels back from the left coast.
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And congratulations on your daughter's wedding.
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Well, thank you so much.
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And hey, thank you for all the great work you're doing.
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I mean, I want to turn it right back on you.
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You're doing a great work.
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Praise God.
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I get to talk to some great people.
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So thanks, brother.
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Talk to you soon.
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All right, guys.
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Thanks again for tuning in for sharing the podcast.
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God bless you.
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And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.