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Demonic Enemies of God, the Bible, and Israel · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Hi guys, another week of great guests and that blesses me so much.
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I always learn and I'm always encouraged by the people I get to talk to.
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Welcome to World View Matters and thank you for subscribing to the podcast.
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I just want to say, I mean, this week, wow, or last week, I mean, Pastor John Penel from
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Illinois, we talked about free masonry, Dr. Andy Woods in Texas, we talked about the Middle
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East, well, meltdown, Joe Shimmel, Pastor and Seamy Valley, California, and then Dean
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Dwyer.
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Well, we have Dean back today.
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I wanted to kick off the week with him again and he's got some great articles at HarbingersDaily.com.
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Dean is the pastor and president of the Iser Street Baptist Church in Toowoomba, Australia.
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He's also the co-founder of Sound the Alarm Ministries, which we talked about last week,
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briefly, but we have so much that we wanted to share and I wanted to really give you guys
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a little bit of encouragement to go check out his articles.
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So we're going to talk a little bit more about that today, plus the anti-semitism and the
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problem of ignorance, not just here in Australia, America, around the world, and also with Bible
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prophecy.
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Why aren't more pastors talking about Israel?
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Why haven't they preached on Bible prophecy?
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So let's just, let's start right there.
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Welcome back, Dean Dwyer.
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Hi, brother.
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Good day, David.
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How are you today?
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Doing well.
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I want to start right there, right out of the gate, let's ruffle some feathers.
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Why aren't pastors around the world?
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Let's just talk about America and Australia.
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Why aren't they up to speed on Bible prophecy?
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And why aren't they talking about Israel from a biblical standpoint?
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Your thoughts?
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Well, probably two words, biblical illiteracy.
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That's the problem, David, unfortunately, and began in the seminaries.
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And I think that the seminaries, rather than teaching dispensational truth, they've
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gone into church growth movements, how to grow your church, church growth models.
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And so they really moved away from teaching the Bible and started to teach marketing and
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various other programs involved in the church ministry.
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So I think it lost its focus in the seminaries, and of course then when you are putting pastors
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then in the pulpit, I think pastors are really confused as to what the Bible says about
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prophecy because they're taught so many different versions of it in Bible college.
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They come out, they're confused, they might have a hostile congregation, they don't want
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to rock the boat.
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So they stick to the very safe topics.
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Now they stick to love and grace and very safe topics.
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And all of those things are great by themselves.
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But unfortunately when we know that 27% of the Bible is prophecy, about 16% unfulfilled,
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then why are church leaders ignoring such a large part of the Scripture?
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Well, you said, you mentioned the seminaries, oh my goodness, what a downfall.
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I mean, there's been a falling away in, first of all, I think it was fuller seminary
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in the 1950s if I'm not mistaken that went away from their belief in the inerrancy of
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the Scriptures.
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This is a seminary, you're supposed to be training pastors and you don't believe the
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Bible is inerrant and that is the inspired, God-breed word that is our authority.
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Anyway, don't even get me going, Dean, come on, you're pushing my buttons.
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But you mentioned the seminaries, you mentioned marketing, you mentioned church growth.
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I mean, that's what a lot of, unfortunately, they think that's what they're supposed
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to do.
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Some pastors coming out of seminaries or Bible college, well, I guess I'm supposed to go
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after the numbers.
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I'm supposed to grow a big church because that's a sign of success, right?
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No.
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Well, Jesus did it with 12 people.
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I mean, we're trying to grow these big churches with all these programs.
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Not that every mega church is bad.
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In fact, next week I got a, just a man of God I met at Liberty Pastors, Steve Smotherman
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in New Mexico, Albuquerque, he's got, he's got a mega church there, but he speaks out
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on abortion and on the politics and everything else.
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So not every mega church, but a lot of them are.
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So Dean, I need to take a breath because I just remembered all this is what I was reading
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about seminaries and I just want to get a little bit more of your take on it because
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you're the guest.
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I want to hear more from you and our viewers want to hear more from you.
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So any other thoughts on that before we move on?
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I think some people treat ministry now as a career, but it's really a calling and I can
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testify to that, you know, God calls forward pastors and preachers.
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And unfortunately, I think we have many people in the pulpit who probably haven't been
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called there.
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And so they see this really as a career.
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And unfortunately, I think that's what we have and what we see in Australia is very big
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buildings and big buildings aren't necessarily negative by themselves, but when you've got
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big buildings, you've got big programs, you've got big wages, then you've got big bills
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to pay.
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So what do you need?
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You need people.
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And you need people to be opening their wallets.
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And the people are going to open their wallets and you can't offend them.
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So what do you do?
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You stop teaching things that are offensive.
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You stop teaching about sin.
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You stop teaching about abortion.
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You stop teaching about Bible prophecy.
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You stop teaching about Israel.
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So all of a sudden, you're making all of these concessions just so that you can have money
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flowing in the doors.
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Remember what the pulpit prioritises?
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The people pursue.
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And so if the pulpits are prioritising money, if they're prioritising work ideology,
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and that is going to flow into the pews, and unfortunately, then you have this vacuum
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where people are less focused then on the scriptures, on Bible teaching, on fellowship.
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And so I think this is part of the problem, particularly what we see in the Aussie Church.
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Yeah.
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So how do we get to the point where men of God, some are more concerned about what people
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think than they are about God's approval?
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I mean, what would Paul said?
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If I was still seeking the approval of man, I would not be a servant of Christ.
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Is that what Paul said?
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Galatians 110 and the apostles, you know, friends, think about this.
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If you're in a church where you don't hear anything controversial, nothing about Israel,
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nothing about revelation or the end times, very little about the Old Testament, nothing
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about abortion, about so-called social or political issues, which really are moral issues,
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like the LGBTQ indoctrination that's taken the world by storm.
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If you don't hear anything about these, I would question if you have a pastor that's
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biblically trained, because these are things, Christians need to be equipped.
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Isn't that one of the roles of the pastor, one of the many Dean Dwyer Ephesians chapter
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four, equipping the saints for ministry?
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And it's sad.
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A lot of responses from people saying, well, how do I find a good Biblical church where
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I can find a pastor like that?
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But in some parts of the country, I'm sure it's similar to Australia, there just aren't
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that many men of God that are willing to say, I'm not trying to conform to the world.
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I don't care what they think.
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I'm going to be obedient to God.
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Your thoughts?
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Brandon Holthouse from Rock Harbor, he did an interactive church locator.
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This is a global church locator.
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So during this COVID period, and he had the same views as you, David, that we really need
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to connect people in their local area with really decent fellowships who are teaching
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the right things.
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And so Brandon and his team set out to do this.
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Now they started with about 600 churches globally.
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That's now whittled down to only 245.
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240 are in America.
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Worldwide.
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Wow.
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Worldwide.
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UK.
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And there are only four in Australia, which we are one of that have been approved by Brandon's
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team.
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Now, there would be more in Australia, but there wouldn't be that many more.
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So unfortunately, we really do see a very dwindling remnants who are focused on dispensational
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teaching on God's future plan for Israel on teaching about current events, Bible prophecy,
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but also teaching the clear and accurate version of the gospel, not the work gospel that
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we often hear from pulpits now.
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Amen, brother.
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So friends, if you want to go to Harbinger's Daily.com, you can get the latest of what Dean
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has been writing.
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And of course, a lot of great people on that site.
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And I thank you again, guys at Harbinger's, you're a blessing to both Dean and I.
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So you've got an article, Dean called Pharmakia, how the drug of jihad allowed terrorists
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to commit heinous acts with a sense of indifference.
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And of course, it's referring to the Hamas attacks, the demonic attacks on Israel on October
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7th and, you know, the war since, but share this is fasting.
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I was reading through this and I knew what Pharmakia meant.
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And then I didn't realize that terror groups are making money off of selling drugs.
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And then the terrorists themselves are, some of them are taking these drugs, these stimulants.
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So they can go for days and just, they're not even in control of themselves.
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Take, walk us through this because it was really fascinating to me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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First and foremost, we've also recognized that these are men who are demonically possessed
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really.
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Really at the heart of it, they have spiritually dead, they're being used by the enemy.
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Because we know that they have this Jew hatred in them, which is not natural.
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But overlaid with that is the fact that they are using these drugs.
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And unfortunately, they are being funded by these drugs as well.
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Now, this drug in particular called Capitagon, it is a counterfeit version of Capitagon
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because Capitagon was a legitimate drug used in the 80s to treat narcolepsy.
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But it was banned in the US.
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And unfortunately, though, it made its way over into the Middle East.
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And they found that it could really, some people have testified that they felt like
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it gave them superhuman strength.
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But what it also did, unfortunately, was it, there was irreversible changes in the brain
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circuitry.
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And here's the key part of the article.
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The changes in the brain circuitry meant that they could no longer think rationally.
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So it removed any conscience there.
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So the point I was trying to get across in the article and some had questioned the focus
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of it.
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And that's why I made it very clear that first and foremost, we must recognize that this
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is a demonic hatred.
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Yes.
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But if there was any flicker of conscience in these people, it was deadened by the use of
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this drug.
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So the English word sorcery is the Greek word farmakia.
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Yeah.
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That's fascinating.
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Yeah.
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That's fascinating right there.
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That's right.
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A lot of people, when they think sorcery, they think Harry Potter, they think of witchcraft
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and spells and so on and so forth.
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But if you look at the context and the cultural context from when the Greeks would have used
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the word farmakia, it really relates to medicine and poisons and anything that's going
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to manipulate another person.
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So this fits the profile really when you put that into some of the modern illicit drugs
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in particular.
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And so Capdagon is really captivated, unfortunately, the Middle East.
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And surprisingly to me, it was the biggest consumer of Capdagon is in Saudi Arabia.
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So there's a line in your articles that says the Jerusalem post reported that Hamas terrorists
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were found to be under the influence of Capdagon, this synthetic and, what is it, amphetamine,
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type of stimulant.
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So as you were writing this, did you come across this or did you hear about that and wanted
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to look deeper into it?
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Yeah, I come across the Jerusalem post article because I'd mentioned that when they had
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taken care of the dead bodies of the terrorists, I'd found all of these Capdagon pills.
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Now, this has been a problem that the US government in particular has been trying to stop
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because Lebanon and Syria are the largest producers of Capdagon.
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So the US government has been trying to find ways to try and stop the supply of this drug
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because they know how very dangerous it is.
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And so lo and behold, on the Hamas terrorists, they've found scores and scores of these
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pills.
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And so things start to make sense now.
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They've got the demonic Jew hatred.
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They've got these pills.
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And so this is what's fueled them in order to and funded them in part to undertake some
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of these really barbaric acts.
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So Satan and the demonic realm fueled them from the spiritual standpoint.
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And then in the natural physical, you've got these drugs that as you said earlier, it's
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frightening the way, if you're thinking about how you said it, it's kind of removed
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the conscience.
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So I think they can do whatever they already fueled by hatred and hatred of the Jews.
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And now they're, what else did you say in here that I found to be very interesting?
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Capdagon has become a major source of income for Syria actively supported by Israel's
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enemy in the North, Hezbollah, and exports in 2020 alone, exports of Capdagon reached
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$3.5 billion dollars.
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I think this has flown under the radar, Dean.
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I don't think a lot of people knew about this, but it just bring this whole thing together
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even more to try to understand how human beings can carry out such hatred, such demonic
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violence and torture to the people of Israel.
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So go ahead, whatever's on your heart, brother, share.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, if you look at the Syrian export markets, their legitimate exports were $700 million,
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but their exports of Capdagon were $3.5 billion.
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So of course, in any nation state, what are you going to do?
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You're going to prioritize that, which makes you the most money.
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So unfortunately, Israel's not only fighting a kinetic war in the South and in the North,
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they're fighting a cyber war.
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We know that they have very good cyber war capabilities, but now they've got to try and
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fight a drug war as well, because as long as this drug remains in production, then this
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is going to be widespread.
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They're going to have to encounter this more and more.
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And we know that this drug was also used by ISIS as well.
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So there's a clear connection there between terrorism and the use of illicit drugs.
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And as I said, it really irreversibly changes their brain circuitry so that they are not
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thinking rationally, there's no compassion, there's no conscience there.
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So as you well said before, you've got the combination, unfortunately, of the demonic
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and the illicit substances.
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And unfortunately, the two together just allow these people to commit such heinous acts.
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Lethal.
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All right, we've got to take a quick break.
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We'll be right back with Dean Dwyer on World View Matters.
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Pastor Dean Dwyer is my guest today from Australia.
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And you can get these articles at harbingersdaily.com.
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The next one I wanted to talk a little bit with Dean about.
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I found another fascinating article called Beneath the Banner.
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It says, a nation's flag speaks volumes.
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So there's some history there that you get into Dean on the, how Israel came up with
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their flag.
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I want you to share about that.
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But I also want to mention in the first paragraph, flags of terrorist entities such as ISIS,
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Hamas, and Hezbollah, the flags of these people, these entities also speak volumes about
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their goals.
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So you mentioned numbers, chapter two.
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Dean, go ahead and share a little bit about the banners, the flags of nations and groups.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So you read in numbers, there's a lot of banners that God has the Israelite Institute.
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What's interesting though is that how the collection of the tribes are formed.
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And this is really important for us all to remember as well because you remember, Israel
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was gathered around a tabernacle of meeting at that time.
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And God was in the center.
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So if you look at how the tribes were aligned, the tabernacle was in the middle in the center.
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And that was the most important part that you can we can learn from that particular passage.
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That God has to be at the center of our life, at the center of our churches.
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Unfortunately, he's often pushed to the side, marginalized.
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We draw upon him like a genie sometimes when we really get desperate, but he wants to be
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the focus of our worship and how we're going forward and being led by him.
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The banners of terrorist groups, I mean, all you have to do is look at some particularly
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like Hezbollah.
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I think on their flag, they have an AK 47.
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So that tells you a lot about their aspirations and their goals, unfortunately.
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The one interesting thing that I looked at in terms of the flag of Israel, and perhaps
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if one of your viewers knows the answer to this, but when I look at the flag of Israel,
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it is the same right side up as it is upside down.
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Now, that was interesting to me because we know that the international signal of distress
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is if you fly your nation, states flag upside down.
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But in the case of the flag of Israel, when I looked at it, it's the same right side
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up as upside down.
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What that tells me is that Israel will never be defeated, never be overcome.
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Israel may be in some distress, but God is in control and God will carry them through.
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Wow, I love that.
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I love that.
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And that's true.
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We know that from the Bible, friends, if you're discouraged and disheartened by what's
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going on in the world, you know, read Scripture on it and God's promises to Israel.
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Read Isaiah and other places and Genesis and so many other places.
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So upside down, it's the same flag and God will be there.
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He is the rock and refuge of His people.
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I think that's an excellent point.
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And in Numbers chapter 2 that you have in your article, it says, every man of the children
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of Israel shall pitch his own standard with the ensign of their father's house.
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I found that to be very interesting because, you know, you had 12 tribes.
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So take us through that a little bit, Dean.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So the 12 tribes and you see there's a connection there.
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I don't have the article with me, but there's a connection if you've got it there, David,
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with some of the descriptions in Ezekiel and Revelation as well.
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So that was really, really interesting because God speaks all throughout His Scripture.
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You know, he doesn't just speak in isolation, Scripture, interpret Scripture and from
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Numbers to Ezekiel to Revelation, we see, you know, some of the symbolism being mentioned,
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which tells us that God works through the ages and He is sovereign and will mighty and
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in control.
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Yeah, I want to mention on the Eastern side, Judah, Issaqar and Zebulin.
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That's in Numbers 2, verse 3.
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On the southern side would be Rubin, Simeon and Gad.
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And then let's see on the western side, Ephraim, Manasseh and Benjamin.
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And then on the northern side would be Dan, Asher and Nathtali.
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So that's in Numbers 2, 25.
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But I found this interesting to Dean.
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You mentioned this on the standards.
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You mentioned the figures.
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You mentioned Judah bore the figure of a lion, which is interesting.
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The lion of the tribe of Judah, Rubin, the likeness of a man or of a man's head, Ephraim,
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the figure of an ox and Dan, the figure of an eagle.
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And there is an interesting passage that you quote from Ezekiel 1, verse 10.
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And it says, as for the likeness of their faces, they, they, they for had the face of a man
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and the face of a lion on the right side.
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And they for had the face of an ox on the left side.
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And they for also the face of an eagle, just fascinating.
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I just, whatever you want to share on that, I thought that was very interesting as well.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And this is the value of reading scripture entirely.
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You know, we tend to pick out certain passages, certain books and focus on them.
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But when you read the whole canon of scripture from Genesis to Revelation,
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I believe that's important for every believer.
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Then you start to see these themes run through the scripture.
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And most importantly, you start to see that there is a connection to Israel
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right from the beginning, right to the end in Revelation.
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And that's really important for Christians and particularly pastors to understand
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is that God is not finished with Israel.
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Rebromans 9, 10, 11 in particular.
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There is a future plan for Israel.
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And unfortunately, the Aussie Church is more into replacement theology than dispensational teaching.
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So sadly, that has resulted in the marginalization of Israel and teaching
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in terms of Israel's prophetic history.
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And sadly, what we see in Australia and what we've seen over the past few weeks
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in particular since the Hamas terrorist attack is terrible rallies taking place
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in some of the major cities in Australia.
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And there were some people there openly chanting that they want to gas the Jews.
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And I'll tell you, that's heartbreaking to hear, particularly not too long
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after the horrors of the Holocaust.
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Yeah, world history.
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I mean, and you can't think of anything else other than it's demonic
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because this is actually part of world history and yet here we go again.
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And I think of the colors that the green, black, red, the Palestinian flags
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Dean, they were flying in some American cities.
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Our college campuses are, they're so deceived.
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And they are pro-Palestinian for the most part, the faculty.
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They're globalists, they're Marxist.
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And so we're in a very interesting time in history, right?
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We're very interesting where there's so much deception coupled with just the media
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and what the education system and the church's ignorance.
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There's so many things happening at the same time, kind of parallels going on.
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And it's setting the stage for, I believe, and I think you do too
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for the future and times events.
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We just have three or four minutes left.
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Just your thoughts on that.
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How this is all winding up.
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The stage is being set.
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The players, a lot of them are already in place.
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And we're just, it's just a matter of time, right?
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Absolutely, we describe it like you're going to a theatre
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and you've got the big curtain down, but behind the curtain,
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you can hear things being set up.
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You can hear musicians moving around, actors, equipment being brought
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under the stage.
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And we, that's how we see things at the moment.
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There's a big curtain there and things are being set up.
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And once that curtain lifts, we believe that is the rapture of the church.
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Once that happens, then all of this will be revealed for the world to see.
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But what is integral at the moment?
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If people are looking for scriptures to read at the moment
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to make sense of what's happening,
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they're not encouraged people to go to Ezekiel 3839
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because that is really mirrors what's happening in the headlines.
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Particularly when you see Turkey, Russia, Iran, all together,
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then it makes a lot of sense.
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And by the way, we've been showing this map a lot
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on a lot of these shows in the last couple of weeks
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of the Coalition of Nations, Muslim Nations,
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dictatorships, those who would want to wipe Israel off the map.
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And if you show the map, Israel is this little speck.
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It's the size in America anyway, the size of New Jersey.
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And all these other nations surrounding it.
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And people are saying they're the aggressor
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and they're the colonizers and it's like, and Dean, I don't know if it's
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like that in Australia, it probably is, but you kind of shake your head
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and go, are your eyes lying to you?
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I mean, it just shows that it's deception, isn't it?
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There's this veil that's in front of their eyes, isn't it?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And, you know, unfortunately, as you touched on,
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it comes through the media as well.
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We have a very left-wing media here called the ABC.
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Unfortunately, they are very anti-Israel.
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Soon after the Hamas terrorist attack took place,
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you know, I was pleasantly surprised to see a lot of people
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openly standing with Israel, including some who wouldn't
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ordinarily, but unfortunately, we are starting to see that turn.
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And, you know, Israel is well within their rights in international law
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to go into Gaza and to eradicate Hamas.
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This is what people forget.
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Israel is not overreaching.
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They are, they have a duty under international law to protect their citizens.
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And I'm sure that if people and if people's own families were massacred
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in this way, they wouldn't be so forgiving.
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That's right. That's right. Oh, my goodness, friends.
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First of all, I've been encouraging people.
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You can get more news on social media than you can from the major networks,
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their bias, their liberal, their progressive and whatever else.
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But don't look away when you see this.
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Some of it's really heart-wrenching.
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Friends, we have to acknowledge that it's going on.
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And then we have to say, all right, there's so much ignorance and misinformation.
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What am I going to do about it?
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Silence in the face of evil is itself evil.
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer said, of course, in Nazi Germany,
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but Dean Dwyer, my goodness, we've had a time already.
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We're going to do this again, Lord Willing,
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and connect with you over in Australia.
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Dean, of course, the pastor of Eiser Street, Baptist Church,
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and to Wumba, Australia.
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And brother, I appreciate your writing.
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I appreciate your voice.
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I'm so thankful that we've connected.
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And I'm glad to know there are some solid pastors over there.
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Brother, we are part of the remnant here in this day and time.
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And thanks for your voice.
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We'll do this again, Lord Willing, soon.
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Amen, look forward to it.
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Thanks, David.
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All right, thank you, Dean.
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