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James Li _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _642(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I want to let you guys know I'll be in Jacksonville, Florida,
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  Speaker 1: preparing for my comedy special taping. That's March 13th and
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  Speaker 1: 14th with two shows on the 14th. Get your tickets
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  Speaker 1: only at TheoVon.com slash T-O-U-R. It's Return of the Rat.
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  Speaker 1: It's still I know. like this rat has returned so
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  Speaker 1: many times, but I've just got to, uh, I got
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  Speaker 1: to make sure everything's, um, running smooth for the special
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  Speaker 1: that has been so far. So, um, excited to get
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  Speaker 1: down there. Reminder guys, that you can get video versions
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  Speaker 1: of our episodes now on Spotify as well. Today's guest
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  Speaker 1: is an independent journalist. Uh, he's a content creator and
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  Speaker 1: He has his own show, 5149, that's on YouTube. We
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  Speaker 1: got into a lot. I'm grateful to sit down today
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  Speaker 1: with Mr. James Lee.
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  Speaker 2: You look good.
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  Speaker 1: Good as I'm going to look today, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I thought about wearing the bucket hat, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I got to switch up the hats. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying? Usually I'm wearing the bucket hat. Do you
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, I almost wore this beekeeper's hat that I got.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Whitney Cummings one night at the comedy store, I
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  Speaker 1: think she was going through something, and she gave me
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  Speaker 1: a full beekeeper's outfit. Really? Yeah, for no reason. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, she's like, I got something for you. And
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  Speaker 1: then she went and got a beekeeper's full hat. Like,
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  Speaker 1: beekeeper's outfit out of her trunk or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The last beekeeper scene that I saw was, like, from
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  Speaker 3: that movie Begonia. Did you see that movie?
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet.
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  Speaker 3: Is it good? It's dark.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Like, really dark. I'm like, I was not ready for this.
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  Speaker 3: I was not.
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  Speaker 1: Like, do you mean perversion or sensuality or, like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about, dark? It's just like.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the plot line, just, like, humanity, just, like, the...
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  Speaker 3: what are they called?
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  Speaker 1: Malice or whatever?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're trying to do like cultural commentary.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And so I'm like, wow, this is not a, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: cause I deal in it all day long. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't need a movie. I like my movies to
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  Speaker 3: be like chill. Right. Like rom-coms and comedy.
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  Speaker 1: Madagascar.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Those kinds of things. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sierra Leone or whatever. Some of that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was just thinking of other African countries. It's
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  Speaker 1: crazy because there's like Madagascar and then there's Hotel Rwanda.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the only thing. Like Africa, it gives you
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  Speaker 1: like some polar opposites if you pick the wrong African
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  Speaker 1: area off of your Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: I've never been to Africa. Oh, actually, can I tell
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  Speaker 3: you this story before we get going?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Just a real quick story. Okay, so.
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  Speaker 1: No worries. James Lee. Good to see you today. And
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  Speaker 1: is it Lee?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 3: James Lee.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me your story, then I'm going to ask you
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  Speaker 1: a question.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay. So just quick story before we start. I
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  Speaker 3: just have to tell you the story. Okay, so this
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  Speaker 3: is like a few years ago. Me and my buddies
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  Speaker 3: were in Europe. We're on this Euro trip, and this
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  Speaker 3: is like two of my best friends. And this is
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  Speaker 3: like the type of people you meet at your first job.
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  Speaker 3: Like it's a really, really shitty job where you're like,
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  Speaker 3: we're literally like call center. with the headset, everybody's yelling
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  Speaker 3: at us all day. So we're like, hey, one day
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  Speaker 3: when we get out of here, we're going to go
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  Speaker 3: to Europe. Yeah. We're going to do this Euro trip
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  Speaker 3: type of thing, like the movie. And we did do that.
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  Speaker 3: So finally a few, you know, years and years later,
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  Speaker 3: we had a chance to do that. And we were
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  Speaker 3: just going out and partying every single night.
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  Speaker 1: In what country?
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  Speaker 3: This is in like Spain and Portugal. But after like
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  Speaker 3: seven to 10 days of this, we're like, dude, I
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  Speaker 3: think my liver is shutting down. Like we have to
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  Speaker 3: stay in for a night. Like we're going to die here.
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  Speaker 3: So then we stayed in. And that night, so we
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  Speaker 3: were just scrolling around, whatever. It was like Netflix or
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  Speaker 3: some streaming thing that I don't remember. And that night,
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  Speaker 3: we ended up binge watching this show called Deal With It.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that show?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. I remember that show, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I was a host on it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I had to tell you the story.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: We literally watched like 10 episodes of Deal With It.
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  Speaker 1: How stoned were you guys?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to say for me.
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  Speaker 1: I looked like a scared person in that picture, which
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  Speaker 1: is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And so then we made a pact right there. We're like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: if anybody starts doing weird shit, you just got to
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  Speaker 3: go with it for a little while. Just see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Don't shut it down right away. So it's a full
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  Speaker 3: circle moment from many years ago. I was watching the show.
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  Speaker 3: That was my first introduction to Theo Vaughn was this show.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how proud of you are on the
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  Speaker 3: work on this show, but it saved my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 3: It kept you off the streets of Lisbon? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Some beautiful streets they have there, too, though.
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  Speaker 3: They do.
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth's so nice. But, dude, no, the show was fun.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have much input. That was kind of the
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  Speaker 1: tough part. You were just kind of screwing around. And
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  Speaker 1: then I also just realized I look like that lesbian
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  Speaker 1: lady from, what's that band they sing?
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  Speaker 3: Life is a highway. Oh, Rascal Flatts.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I look like that lesbian lady from Rascal Flatts, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Pull me back up.
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  Speaker 3: I was not aware there was a lesbian lady in
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  Speaker 3: Rascal Flats. And maybe that's rude to say that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, pull her up. Pretty close, huh? Oh, there is
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  Speaker 1: not a lady in Rascal Flats.
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  Speaker 3: I don't see a lady in Rascal Flats. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: is that the lesbian?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude.
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  Speaker 2: My bad.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'll take it as somebody else, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever. All right. Okay, anyways. That was, yeah, so then,
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  Speaker 3: that was like the first time I ever saw who
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  Speaker 3: you were.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting, bro.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how far along in your career at
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  Speaker 3: that point that was, but.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That was probably 13 years into my career, probably.
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  Speaker 4: And, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Howie Mandel gave me a job there, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much, Howie. That was fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for people who didn't watch the show, it was
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  Speaker 3: like a hidden camera show where there's, like, contestants, and
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  Speaker 3: then one of them has, like, an earpiece, and you're
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  Speaker 3: telling them what to do, and the other person has to, like,
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  Speaker 3: go along with it. Right. They're doing weird shit, just like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: floss at the restaurant, you know, table. Yes. Or, like,
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  Speaker 3: go eat somebody else's food, and there's these challenges that
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  Speaker 3: you would have to pass, and if you make it,
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  Speaker 3: if the other person is, like, dealing with it, then
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  Speaker 3: they would earn money. Yeah. And so that's when me
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  Speaker 3: and my buddies were like, all right, hey, man. Just
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  Speaker 3: in case we're in that situation. You just go with
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  Speaker 3: it for a little while.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys didn't watch that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you'd find just two strangers walking down the street. You'd
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  Speaker 1: have already pre-set up at a restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: Was that real though? Or were the contestants really like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted those two people? Or were they like pre-screened
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  Speaker 3: and then?
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  Speaker 1: We would pick people that were just kind of going
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  Speaker 1: in or coming by. A lot of times you'd try
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  Speaker 1: to get people and they just wouldn't understand. Yeah, you'd
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  Speaker 1: always want them to go to the bathroom and then
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  Speaker 1: you'd go ask the other person who's at the table like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: will you be on this game show? We're doing a
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  Speaker 1: game show in here today.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so it was a lot of craziness. The craziest
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  Speaker 1: thing that ever happened on that show was one time
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  Speaker 1: there was a couple walking down the street and we
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  Speaker 1: invited them in because you'd be like, hey, we're giving
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  Speaker 1: away free appetizers or something. So they'd come and sit
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  Speaker 1: down and then one of them would go to the
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  Speaker 1: restroom and that's when we'd ask the other one, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to put an earpiece in your ear. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to start telling you things to do. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a friend that you're here with, when they come back
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  Speaker 1: from the bathroom and If they don't notice that you're
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  Speaker 1: doing weird shit, the more you can get them to
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  Speaker 1: deal with, the more money you make. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But one time it was– so we put the earpiece
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  Speaker 1: in this lady's ear. The guy had gone to the restroom.
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  Speaker 1: He comes back and sits down, and the guy was
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  Speaker 1: a pimp, and she was a working girl.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: So she starts doing this crazy shit, and the pimp
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  Speaker 1: starts getting– like threatening this lady. Like, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: whoop your ass. And we're like, this isn't going well, really.
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  Speaker 3: And that episode didn't air, right? No.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when we should have aired.
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  Speaker 3: Oh. You know. Well, it's in the vault somewhere. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: Howie can pull that back up or what?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it would be wild if he did. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I think if we aired the ones that didn't air,
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  Speaker 1: that would be pretty wild. But yeah, there was definitely some,
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  Speaker 1: there was like some ridiculous moments on there that were
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  Speaker 1: pretty great. but that was one of the wildest ones,
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  Speaker 1: and we just had to shut it down because it
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  Speaker 1: was like an endangerment to the lady or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, James Lee, good to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man. Thanks for coming, man. I appreciate it, man.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. You live in, do you say
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  Speaker 1: where you live, California?
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  Speaker 3: Yes. I mean, I tell people I live in San Diego. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: That's about as, specific as I'll get, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, man. I first learned about you
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  Speaker 1: like just in some clips online. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: look at this like investigator, you know, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of investigators now and a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are getting kind of their news, um, from guys like you, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Shirley, uh, Um, Hassan Piker, Candace Owens clips. Um, I,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's becoming a lot more from
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  Speaker 1: social clips that people even get their news.
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  Speaker 3: For sure. And I would, I would even say that
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  Speaker 3: I'm not like an investigator. I think is like really
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  Speaker 3: generous of what I do. Like I like to expose
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  Speaker 3: rich and powerful people, but that's like a, there's like
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  Speaker 3: a network of investigators. Like we're all leaning on each
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  Speaker 3: other to, Like somebody finds something, I'm like, oh, that's great.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to put that in my video. So there's
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of information sharing that goes on. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to take credit for being like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a guy that's like in, you know, there's like real,
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  Speaker 3: real investigators that are literally pouring through like document after document.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes I'll do that, but it's just like, it's
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  Speaker 3: just me. So I don't have the resources to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do that a lot of times. So it's like,
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  Speaker 3: there's like a collective network of like decentralized people. journalists
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  Speaker 3: or creators.
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  Speaker 1: That are in that space.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Decentralized journalists. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like we don't work for one particular news organization,
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  Speaker 3: of course. So like we all have our own editorial freedom,
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  Speaker 3: but there's like alignment in terms of we want to
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  Speaker 3: just expose rich and powerful people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that feels like sort of your theme is the
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  Speaker 1: exposure of the elites.
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  Speaker 3: Elites or businesses, right? I talk a lot about private
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  Speaker 3: equity and how they're basically buying up all the houses
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  Speaker 3: or they're taking over certain industries like the hospital industry.
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  Speaker 3: Or I did one recently that was on there buying,
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  Speaker 3: there's a private equity company buying all the sports rinks
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  Speaker 3: in the Northeast. And because they want to make more money,
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  Speaker 3: they were making rules in their contract when you sign
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  Speaker 3: your key. It's like youth Hockey. It's not like elite hockey.
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  Speaker 3: It's like kids playing hockey, and they're making the parents
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  Speaker 3: sign this contract saying you can't film your kids while
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  Speaker 3: they play hockey because they want you to sign up
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  Speaker 3: for this $ 50 a month subscription service that they own.
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  Speaker 3: It's like if you want footage of your kids playing hockey,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to sign up for this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like it's a max prep thing or something?
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  Speaker 3: It's a company called Black Bear Sports. Black Bear Sports Group.
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  Speaker 3: And they own a ton of ice rinks in the Northeast. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this one right here.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, they banned parents from recording kids hockey. We changed that, okay?
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I saw this article. I'm like, I got
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  Speaker 3: to blow this up, right? Because a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: aren't going to read this article. Right. So then I
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's my responsibility to say, hey, this is
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  Speaker 3: a big deal because this is just them price gouging parents.
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  Speaker 3: You're taking a moment of joy from these kids. parents,
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  Speaker 3: like they just want to, you know, practice.
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  Speaker 1: You're watching him.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. And then now you want to paywall that and
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  Speaker 3: make them sign up for $ 50 a month, which is
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  Speaker 3: like more expensive than, you know, Netflix and all these
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  Speaker 3: other companies. So you're basically like taking advantage of their
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  Speaker 3: parents' love. It's like, yes, of course we want our kids,
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  Speaker 3: you know, record of our kids scoring a goal. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to pay for that. But it's like, is
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  Speaker 3: that good? Is that the right thing to do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like at what point do we decide, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: don't need to make a dollar off of this, right?
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  Speaker 1: There's an actual human value here that's worth more than
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  Speaker 1: some ownership or that's worth more than the rights to something.
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  Speaker 1: And then how weird does it get once you start
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  Speaker 1: giving away the rights to film your own kids? And
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  Speaker 1: then it's, you know, like how long before a drone
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  Speaker 1: is in the sky. And if you want footage of
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  Speaker 1: your kid playing in your yard, you have to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: email the drone and pay a fee to get a
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  Speaker 1: certain clip of your child on a swing. Because if
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  Speaker 1: you pull your own phone out in your backyard, it
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  Speaker 1: won't work anymore because you didn't pay a subscription fee.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: It sounds dystopian.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds dystopian, but where we're getting now sounds dystopian. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in some places anyway, and in some ways
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  Speaker 1: for sure. How did you get into kind of, let's
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  Speaker 1: say investigative journalism? Like what spurned you to become someone
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  Speaker 1: who kind of wanted to expose?
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  Speaker 3: So you want, I can give you like a short
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  Speaker 3: version or like a slightly longer version. Cause, okay. So I'll, I'll,
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  Speaker 3: I'll try to make it as succinct as possible. So
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  Speaker 3: like many, so this is like when I was a
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: kid growing up, I was, I think I was in
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  Speaker 3: elementary school. My mom asked me, Hey, what do you
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  Speaker 3: want to do when you grow up? And I said, teacher.
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  Speaker 3: She's like, what? And I said, yeah. And he's like, why?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, well, summer breaks, duh. But that wasn't so,
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  Speaker 3: so like for me, that was the joke reason. But
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  Speaker 3: really I love just like, I have this natural curiosity
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  Speaker 3: for things. I love learning about stuff and I love
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  Speaker 3: telling other people about stuff. So like, that's to me,
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  Speaker 3: that's a teacher. Like what I do right now is
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  Speaker 3: like teaching in a sense of like, I'm reading, you know,
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  Speaker 3: basically like one chapter ahead. And then I'm learning about
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  Speaker 3: stuff like, wow, this is really cool. I want to
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  Speaker 3: share that with the world. And hopefully- You can use
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  Speaker 3: that information to better your life. That's my hope. I
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  Speaker 3: never obviously did that. I worked a bunch of different things.
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  Speaker 3: And like I was saying, I was working in a
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  Speaker 3: call center, just random startups. I didn't go anywhere. So
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  Speaker 3: then maybe about 10 years ago, I was talked into
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  Speaker 3: applying to business school. So then I went to NYU.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the full-time MBA program at NYU.
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  Speaker 1: You lived in New York?
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  Speaker 3: A couple of years. That's cool. It was cool for
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  Speaker 3: a little while. I actually didn't like living in New York.
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  Speaker 3: It was just too much for me. The stimulus was.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was better back then. Now I go back.
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  Speaker 3: I go back probably a couple times a year because
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  Speaker 3: I still have friends out there and I visit them.
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  Speaker 3: And when I go there now, I'm like, whoa, this
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  Speaker 3: is like sensory overload for me at this point. But anyway,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: so I went to business school and I actually wrote
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: my essay because when I was applying to business school
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: was when Bernie first started running His 2016 campaign for president,
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: and I was a big Bernie guy, and that's when
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: I first learned, oh, wow, the Democratic Party is not
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: so Democratic. I'm sure you know some of the stories
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: about him getting screwed over by the DNC.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got railroaded. He won some primaries, and then
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: they pulled him out.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they gave, for example, they gave Hillary access to
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: the debate questions ahead of time. They were rigging all
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: the rules against Bernie. And then they were creating smear
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: campaigns that originated from the DNC, like the Bernie Bros.
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: That was like a DNC-manufactured smear campaign to say, oh,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders is a racist and a sexist. That came
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: from the DNC themselves. That wasn't like an outside group
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: saying that.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: It was never an official DNC contract. Nobody said it
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: was an official DNC contract. It was a leak that
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: came out later on that said, oh, yeah, they made
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: that up. I would not be surprised. Either way, his
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: own party railroaded him. His own party did not give him.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: People wanted him, and they did not give the people
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: what they want, which is really the most undemocratic thing.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: That was the race that we were supposed to have.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: That's one thing that makes me sad. We were supposed
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: to have the populist right Trump, populist left Bernie. That
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: was supposed to be the election. Imagine that fight right there.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: That's what the soul of America is all about. Instead,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: the Democrats got the most establishment candidate, Hillary Clinton. Nobody
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: wanted her. Mm-hmm. Um, but anyway, so around that time, um,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I was going, I was applying to business school. So
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I'd seen all that happen. So I wrote my essay
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: going to business school. I was like, Hey, I want
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: to work in the news business. Cause I want to improve,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: you know, the, uh, the way we report the news. Um,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and so I went to business school. So immediately I
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: got in there, they were like, I don't think you're
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: going to be able to get a job at a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: news agency. Cause you don't have any experience. So why
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: don't you do consulting instead? apparently anybody can be a consultant.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: And so, um, so yeah, no, seriously, I was like,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I have no, none of this background. So like credit
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: to consulting firms. Like if you go to the right school,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: they will hire you as long as you know, you
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: do well in the, the interviews and things like that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: So I became a consultant management consultant for four and
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: a half, five years at a big four consulting firm.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: And it just so happens coincidentally. So then COVID hit
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: like maybe a year after I started working in consulting
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: and And it just so happened that I was working
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: for a big pharma client at the time. And so COVID,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: big awakening for, I think, a lot of us. I mean,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: for me, for many other people, because at first I
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: was like one of the people who.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Was okay. I was like, all right, we got to
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: stay inside. We got to lock down. We got to
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: stop the spread, right? Who doesn't want to stop? I
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: was like, I'll stop. Yeah, let's stop the spread. Let's
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: do that. And then it was then the masks and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: then eventually the vaccines. But then over the next course,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: like maybe a year, year and a half, things started
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: coming out that was like weird. It was like, what
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the heck is this? Like they seem to be contradicting themselves.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: And you had that whole Joe Rogan debacle of the
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: ivermectin when they said it was horse pace, when there's
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: like a human version of it that obviously- He's not
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: taking the veterinary medicine. For sure. So then I saw that,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: but then I was on the inside. I was literally like, okay,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: something weird's going on. And then I got to do,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: so this is the year, I think it was like 2022,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: right at the beginning of 2022.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: And you're working for a big pharma company at that
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: time as a consultant.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: As a consultant. Yeah. My specialization was supply chain. So
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I was- doing projects like optimizing inventory. So it's like
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: how much product you have based on how much you're
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: going to sell and how much you're making. Cause you
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: want to have the right amount, right? If you have
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: too much, it's going to be, there's going to be leftover.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to expire.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: You're going to have to throw it away. If it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: not enough, then, you know, you run out of stock
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: and you can't make money. Right. So you have to
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: have the perfect amount. So that was, that was my job.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And a lot of it was like making PowerPoints, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: spreadsheet PowerPoint work. Yeah. And so then we did this
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: project at the beginning of 2022 for this big pharma client.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I can't say which one for legal reasons. but it
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was one of the manufacturers of the COVID-19 vaccine. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: one of the projects that we did was looking at
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the totality of the inventory they had within this product.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: And we went to them with a report saying that
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: by the end of this year, and this is, so
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: this is once again, 2022. So then everybody who wanted
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: to get the vaccine had taken it by this point.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It was, because 2021 is where it came out. It
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: was about a year after that. People had already gotten
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: their first couple doses. And so we let him know,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: it's like, hey, it looks like you're going to have
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: a few hundred dollars, or sorry, a few hundred million
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of inventory. At the very least, depending on
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: how you calculate it, it could be worth more than that.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: That's going to be left over at the end of
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the year that has no demand against it, meaning you're
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: not going to be able to sell it. Nobody's buying it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: And then a few weeks later- You're going to have
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: product left on the shelves. You're going to have, well, yeah, exactly.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Nobody's buying this. And then a few weeks later, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: see the CEO of this company go on to CNBC
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: or one of these news companies, news shows, and he says, well,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I think it's time to do another booster shot. And
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: so then to me, I was like, holy fuck, this
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: whole thing is, I can't do this anymore. I was like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I'm out.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So they created the booster because, oh, we have extra
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: left over, of course.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, people say that, but then they'll call you
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: a conspiracy theorist for saying that because they're like, no,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: there's scientific backing to this and that. But I'm on
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the inside, I'm like, this doesn't look, this seems like
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: a pure financial decision.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Dude, Magellan was a conspiracy theorist, wasn't he?
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: What, for going around the world?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Who's the guy that prophesied that there was another place
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: to go sail to?
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Well, Columbus was the guy that said the world is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: round and I'm going to go the other way. Right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: People won't go in one direction. He's like, I think
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I can get around to the other side. That was Columbus.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Columbus. That's the original reach around right there.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: First of all, let's just say that dude.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Um, but at that point I, I thought, man, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: think I'm contributing to evil and I don't want to
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: do this anymore. Wow. And eventually I, I got out.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: There's a, there's a whole story of like me getting
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: let go because I was staying I started getting more
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: rogue at work, you know, just like saying stuff you're
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: not supposed to say.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Just milling around the water cooler.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Well, it's like powerful, you know, the, the, the, the
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: elites of the company, you know, the people were really
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: high up and I started saying stuff that was like,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I think it was correct, but it was uncomfortable for
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: them to hear. Yeah. And then, and then I get
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: brought into like a meeting. It's like, Hey, do you,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: you know, what's your future look like here at this company?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Where do you see yourself? That kind of thing. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: then I was put on a, um, performance improvement plan
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: shortly thereafter. People who know, yeah, people who work in
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: corporate America will know what that is, right? It's basically
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: their way of firing somebody without legal liability.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Right, they try to show that there's steps.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say like, oh, we're not firing this person
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: for any other reason other than poor performance. Except, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: they said I was doing like typos. It was like
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: really- First of all- What Asian is doing typos? Not
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: even to make it racial or whatever. I'm not going
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: to say there aren't typos. Sometimes there were typos.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: But that's certainly more of a general Caucasian problem.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about Epstein with the typos on the emails?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good point.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is typos.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: He didn't even want to commit to completing a word.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was very bizarre. I mean, this is getting
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: off track, but very bizarre how he typed. It was like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: there's commas, but then there's three spaces after that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It's almost like he wanted to show that if the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: KC ever tried to show this it wouldn't match up
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: with anything else you know and that's when you're in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: such a state of like protecting yourself like outsmarting the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: world so then at what point do you start because
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you started making clips first and then you started 5149
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that's your podcast so.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I so I started so when COVID hit I actually
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: just started doing videos on YouTube just because I had
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: more time on my hands and I was just like
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: let me look into some of this stuff so I
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: started doing like one video a week on the weekends
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I was just like you know, they're shitty videos. They're
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: still up. People can look for them. They're not very good,
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: but it's just me looking into stuff. Um, so then, um,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: after that, I started doing more and more of that, um,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: putting stuff on. Yeah. Making content. So I was on
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: YouTube and then, and then I started posting on Tik
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: TOK and then Instagram.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And Rogan shared something here as I mentioned at one time.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: He, yeah, he, he shared something. It was actually a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: really funny clip because I was wearing my bucket hat and,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and like, I think it was like Shane Gillis or somebody.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: He was like, yo, Oh, that's the clip right there, yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Let's see it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Before you press play on that.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I also don't trust this shit. That guy with the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: fishing hat is not a reliable news source.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: That is my number one source of news. Meanwhile, what
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I sent Jamie yesterday, you want to get mad?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Let's get mad.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: The LA Fire Fund, they had this big show, big fundraiser.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: They raised $ 100 million. James Lee did a thing about
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: it on Instagram. The way they distribute the money is
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: so crazy. You're going to read this, and you're never
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: going to want to donate to charity again.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I watched this, Todd.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: I looked into it a little bit.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: We'll watch it, but.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: What they say, though, is that within the first month
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: they distributed half of that money.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Before you press play on that. I also don't trust this.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Hold on.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: That guy with the fishing hat is not a reliable
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: news source. So that's the whole thing? Yeah. That's awesome, though.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But I remember this thing. I remember like, oh, so
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: this guy's catching on. people are curious about this guy.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: People are adapting to, I think what they feel like
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: is genuine, even if it's just genuine curiosity. I think
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: people are, you can, you know, there's something inside of
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you that will attract to it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And people also are, I think they're truth seekers. It's like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know, water seeks like a comfortable level. So it's like, um,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that's how people works kind of finding you and being like, Oh,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: well there's something here that's real, you know?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Well, for me, I'm literally like the definition of a
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: person who is just a regular guy. I don't think I'm,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: too like smarter than regular people. I was like a
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: decent student, but never the top student. Like I, I'm not,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not a good reader, but what I'd had was
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: this kind of like curiosity. And one thing that I
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: do think I'm good at is like just recognizing patterns
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: of like, this, this, this, this. And I'm like, oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: these kind of all fit together. It's like, there's, there's
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: like a logical pattern that's happening here. And so I'm,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just a little definition of a guy who imagine
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: just like, Hey, we're going to make you like an
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: anchor in the news. Like, and then you're going to
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: be able to say whatever you want. And that's just me.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: So like, I have no editorial, um, sort of control
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: from other people. It's just like, whatever I'm interested, I'll
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: do a video on that. And there's nobody really to
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: tell me you can't do this. You can't do that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Other than of course, like getting the platformed.
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  Speaker 1: Right, which happened.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which did happen. Which happened recently. Yeah.
• 24:44
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  Speaker 3: So the Palisades fire specifically was now it's very much
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  Speaker 3: then seven or eight days later, that's when the big
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  Speaker 1: That's the same thing that happened in Maui. A fire
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  Speaker 1: was put out. The police stayed there all night with it,
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  Speaker 1: thought it was out. They waited there all night until
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, go on. And Gavin Newsom was saying stuff like, oh,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: we couldn't have done that because of vegetation. There's like
• 28:38
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• 28:40
  Speaker 3: was like kind of bullshit. So now the state's getting
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: sued because they're culpable for it. And they even said,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: this is like a couple weeks after the fire had started,
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  Speaker 3: the deputy fire chief said, there's no way this— Big
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  Speaker 3: fire was started from the other fire because we put
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  Speaker 3: that fire, that fire was dead out. And now it's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: not dead out. Spencer Pratt has been really big on
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: this in terms, he's running for mayor of LA and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: he's all over this.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing that. So who says the small fire
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: caused the big fire and who says it didn't? So what,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: do we know what really happened?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we know. There's now evidence that definitely came from
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: the first fire. So now the state is getting sued.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I can't remember who the, I don't know who the
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: plaintiff is.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Because what did they do?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Well, what they did was they, it was negligent because
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: they didn't follow the procedures to put out the fire.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Because they knew that they were still smoldering. I think
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: there's records of this, but they couldn't go in for
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: vegetative reasons or whatever it is. And so now they're
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: in trouble because now the damage that's been caused to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: the entire Palisades community. Yes, there it is.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: One year ago, just after midnight on New Year's Eve,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a small brush fire broke out in Topanga State Park
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: above the Pacific Palisades outside Los Angeles. Within hours, the
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles Fire Department arrived on scene to begin digging
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: hand lines to stop its spread. The eight-acre fire ignited
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: by a 29-year-old former Palisades resident who has since been
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: charged with arson. was quickly brought under control. By 4.46 a.m.,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the department declared it fully contained with no further updates anticipated.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: But the fire was never fully extinguished. A week later,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: on January 7th, it reignited and burned more than 23,000 acres,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: destroyed 6,800 structures, and killed 12 people in what became
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: LA's worst urban wildfire catastrophe. And I'm guessing that was
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the Palisades Fire or the LA Fire.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: That's the Palisades. There's another big fire, the Eden Fire,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: which is in Altadena. That one was caused by PG
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: & E because one of the power lines... Fell down, yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: And so they're getting sued right now for that.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Wow. But can a fire smolder for that long?
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I've been told yes, it can smolder for a number
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: of days, even weeks. It's because it's really dry there.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: There hadn't been rain for a long time. I even looked,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: there was literally NASA satellite imagery of you could see
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the hot spot. And it doesn't necessarily have to be smoking,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: from my understanding. It could be under the... The earth,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: it could be like hot. Right. And then any kind
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: of wind condition, you could like, I don't know how
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: it really works from a scientific perspective, but it's like
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: starting a fire. It's like starting a fire in a campsite.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Like you can, under the right conditions, the fire will start.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: So I think the issue here in terms of the
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: liability is that the fire department is supposed to go
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: back in and check it to make sure that it
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: has been put out.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: And because they didn't do that, the liability is now
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: on them in terms of the damage. I mean, there's
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars of damage now. Which opposes, I mean,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: which is contradictory to what they said, which is like
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the fire is dead out. We did our job.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: What were they saying was the original cause of the fire?
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Well, they said it was just like an act of God.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, there's no way to stop
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: this because it was so crazy. The wind.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Poseidon or whatever.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Zeus did it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And this is what Spencer Pratt's been going
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: on about. He's like, this is not just some crazy thing.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It could have been easily preventable if you guys had
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: done your job. But what was the issue with the fundraising?
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Were they giving the- Oh, the fundraising. So there's actually,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I think they're getting sued as well now. Because that
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: was from six or eight months ago when I was
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: doing that video. But what happened there was they collected
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: a bunch of money from this concert, this benefit concert.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: And they're supposed to go to the fire victims. But
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: then- When you partner with a non-profit, a lot of
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that money first just gets absorbed by the non-profit for
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: administrative things.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, holiday parties, shit like that or whatever.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And then... From what I understand, I've talked to
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a few residents. We didn't see any of the money.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: How do we get this? And then there's people or
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: organizations that can sign up to get that money distributed
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: to them. And there would be other companies like diaper
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: companies or whatever it is, like services.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Diaper companies?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: So for example, these companies come in and say, well,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: we can help distribute diapers to residents that have lost
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: their homes. But then now that creates another bureaucratic step
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: for if you've lost your home, you just want a check,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: just give me some money so I can survive. I
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: don't want to go to this organization to collect a
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: diaper because I have a child. It just makes things
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: way more complicated that way.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Understand, so it's a lot of, they'll donate it to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: these other places, maybe a friend's charity, whatever this is.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: And the next thing you know, it's been distributed to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: all these different spots. And then the residents, they don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: know where the spots are. And so it's a lot
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: easier for them to say, hey, this is the deed
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to my house.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: It burned down. Can I collect my $ 5, 000 or whatever
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: the distribution was? It would be a lot easier to
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: do it that way. But the people who organize this
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: is the Balmer Group, which owns the Clippers and the
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: stadium in L.A.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: But you think they would want to then do the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: most human thing then if it's their own– The Clippers,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? They want the fans to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: come to their games.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I think they thought they were doing the humane thing,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: but I think it's just the corruption of the system.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, we have all these charities that we
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: already work with, so let's bring them into the fold
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: of this. But it's not the best solution. The best
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: solution is just to give people the money that need
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: the help. But then now they're just enriching the people
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: who are their friends. All their partners that are doing
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: all these non-profits, they get a little bit of a
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: cut as well through this process. You just want a
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: little cut. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: In its report, the House Judiciary Committee stated money went
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: to left-leaning pet projects, illegal aliens, and the administrative costs
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: related to running nonprofit organizations. This is from CBS News.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You had examples of funds used for voter outreach efforts
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: towards political advocacy groups, towards podcasters, fungus planning. Those examples
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: are pretty troubling. I do want to be clear. There
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: were many organizations that got funds, nonprofits that are certainly
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: very worthy nonprofits.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I think there was one I was talking to– Aloe Black,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: because his house burned down. And he was like, I
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: don't understand why the, what was it, the community college
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: of Pasadena is getting money for this. Like, why do
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: they need money? I don't know. So I think it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: more of like, hey, if you wanted to maximally benefit
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: the people, you would do the right thing and you'd
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: just give the money to the people. Like, show a
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: record that you own this house and then come and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: collect your check versus all this bureaucratic shit where people
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: can take it. The problem with California is like, There's
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: problems that they need to solve, but they need to
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: create the solution always involves like people being able to
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: like stick their hand in the cookie jar and taking
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a cut here, taking a cut there. And then by
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: the time the money goes to the people who need it,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: it's like a lot less of it actually is there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: There's no dessert left really for the people that need
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: it most. Oh wait, Robertson is an attorney representing Palisades
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: fire victims in a civil case against the city. He
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: says public records obtained by the LA Times add credibility
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to his claim that the Lachman fire was not properly extinguished. Okay.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: A new report from the L.A. Times claims the Los
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Angeles Fire Department tried to protect Mayor Karen Bass from
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: reputational harm. It was smoldering right on the top of
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the ground, and we have numerous hikers that took video
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: that called 911 that still took photographs.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: So they're definitely... There's so much evidence that the fire
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: wasn't properly put out. So they're under... I mean, the
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: state of California is getting sued because technically I think
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it's a state land. And I think now... It's funny.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I heard Spencer talking about this. Karen Bass is trying
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: to join that lawsuit against Gavin Newsom. She's trying to...
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: She's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've also been wronged in
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: this situation as well. It was Gavin Newsom. They're all
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: pointing fingers at this point.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's Malibu.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, but then the outcome of this is many homes
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: being burned down and then corporations coming in to buy
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: these homes. Yeah. I think you could probably look up
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: a stat. More than 50% of houses... that have been
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: purchased in L.A. after the fires were purchased by corporations.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: In fire districts or just anywhere? No, no, no, in
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: the fire areas that burned down. I saw there was
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: a headline of this for sure.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: The houses that have burned, I think, not of just
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: regular homes, I think.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Let me see if we can fact check that. Investors
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: are buying close to half the empty lots in L.A.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: burn zones, report says.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: That's including researchers with the online real estate listings platform
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Redfin reached in a new report published Tuesday.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Analyzing transactions in L.A. County burn zones during July, August,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and September, they found that about 40% of Pacific Palisades
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: vacant lots went to corporate buyers in both Altadena and Malibu.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: About 44% of such vacant lot sales went to investors. Huh.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I wonder, though, is there some benefit? Maybe they're putting
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: it into... just a business or an LLC? I wonder
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: if there's some other benefit of doing it that way.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like maybe there's a different,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: maybe it's insurable that way and maybe regular homes. You
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like I wonder if there's something
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: else that adjusts that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: I don't, I mean, I don't think so. I mean,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: it seems like at the very least you could argue
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: the size of the investor. Are they BlackRock or is
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: it like some person who owns like five homes?
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: Right. That could be something. to discuss, but it's certainly
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: not people who live there. Like if you want your
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: home and you live there, it's not like that. It's
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: not like for your family. It's like this guy's buying
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: the home to like rent it out or to flip
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: it or something like that. Yeah. Which isn't ideal for,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you know, home ownership and you know, you want people
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to live in the home. Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: And you can get a homestead exemption that way. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: mean I just– or there's different things like if it's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: your primary residence. Before I forget, yeah, what got you deplatformed?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. And then let's get into the
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Epstein stuff because that's kind of current. We'll go down
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: some rabbit holes here with one of the lead hairs here.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: For sure. Well, so TikTok, they never tell you why
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: you're banned.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, none of these places kind of do.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: No, you don't know. They just one day you're banned.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Some people have warnings and strikes before they're banned. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: wasn't in that situation. I had a good standing account
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: with no issues. And all of a sudden I was banned.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I was banned twice, actually. So the first time I
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: was banned, you can only now context clues. The first
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: time was when I did a video about how our
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: FBI director, Kash Patel, might be getting honey potted. You know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: people have been talking about that. I don't know. I
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: never saw, I was just reading, you know, other people's
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: sort of reporting and who she was. And it's like, Hey,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: this seems like kind of a weird relationship. Like, does
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: she work? You know, she's working closely with PragerU, which
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: is basically like an Israeli run outlet. There's an intelligence
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: officer that runs PragerU. So is she involved in that?
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And then it got banned after that. But then I
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: was able to get that restored actually through a friend
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: who knew somebody at TikTok. They're like, okay, I think
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: we can help get you back on. So then I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: was back and, then the next time happened very shortly
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: after i was named anti-semite of the week by that
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: group stop anti-semitism.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah the week they're doing the weekly i don't
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: even know that they're doing a weekly now yeah uh
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: yeah there you go oh yeah there you go i
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: remember tucker carlson was on this too yeah Who won?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Tucker won.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Tucker won.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he was just in Israel. I don't
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: know if you saw some of that interview with him
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: and Huckabee.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I did, dude. It's definitely pretty baffling.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: What was one of the takeaways from the Huckabee interview
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that you found interesting?
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was really interesting how Huckabee was
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: just being so open about what the project is there.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, I want Israel to take the whole thing.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Because Tucker was saying, hey, based on- About Qazi, you mean?
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: About not Gaza, the whole Middle East, basically. Because he
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: was talking about how, based on scripture, this whole land
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: is like the greater Israel project. And he's like, oh, yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: you have a biblical right to do this. And are
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you okay with Israel taking the whole thing, which includes
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: other countries like Jordan and Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, all
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: these countries? And Huckabee's like, yeah, I'm good with that. Yeah.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty baffling. I mean, Huckabee just really,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it feels like he's more of a politician for Israel
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: than America.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Well, that's certainly the case.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the ambassador, right?
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: He is the ambassador, but he also met with Jonathan Pollard,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: who's the spy, convicted spy, you know, traitor to America.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: And he met him at the American embassy in Jerusalem,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: which is... you know, I mean, it's pretty fucked up.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, unless he was, yeah.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: There was actually a clip and he was like, I
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: didn't meet with, there was not a meeting or he
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: was like, it wasn't a meeting, but I meet with
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: people all the time. It was more of like, I
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: was there with him.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. Call it what you will.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, So– But I have a theory around this
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: because I was like why would he even want to
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: do this? Why would they want to telegraph it so
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: nakedly to people and basically say that, yeah, Israel controls
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: American foreign policy? That's kind of a crazy thing to do.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: And why was Tucker even allowed to do this interview anyway?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And I have this theory of basically both parties, the
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Democrat and the Republicans, they need to create these release
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: valves for the base in order to keep it intact.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: They have that on the left with Bernie Sanders, AOC.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I see them as kind of a release valve to
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: get people back in the Democratic Party fold. Right. Instead
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of going to a third party, something else. Like the
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: last election in Michigan, they had this non-committed vote in
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Michigan that Where people really– because they didn't want to
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: vote for a Democrat because they're supporting the genocide in
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Gaza and they voted for this noncommitted party line. I'm
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: not going to vote for anybody. And that was actually
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: a Democratic Party move to insert that in because if
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they didn't vote the uncommitted, they would have voted Green
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Party and they didn't want people to vote Green Party.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I see, so they created this other thing that made
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: them feel some type of way, but really it was
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: owned by the Democratic Party. Exactly, so it was- Right,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and they both do that. I think you're right.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: On both sides, it was like- And Tucker's the release valve,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I think, on the right, where it's like people are
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: kind of fed up with the whole prioritizing Israel before
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: everything else. So Tucker creates this like, okay, at least
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: somebody's saying this stuff, so we feel a little bit better.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: But do you think he's an instrument of the Republican
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Party to do that?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: That's the, I mean, I wouldn't know. You would have
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: to ask him about that. I think he's, from my understanding,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I only know people who know him. I don't, I've
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: never spoken to Tucker, so I don't know what, you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I don't really know anything about him. But I think
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: in general, he seems to me from the outside looking in,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: sort of a guy who wants to do the right thing,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: report on the right stuff. I think he really feels
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: really bad about the Iraq war. I mean, you've spoken
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: to him, so you can tell me more. Like, it
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: seems like he's remorseful for the fact that he was
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: such a big champion of a war that got like
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a million Iraqis killed, thousands of Americans created You know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: geopolitical chaos.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: He mentioned that in the Huckabee interview, some of that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: He mentions that kind of stuff a lot. Yeah. To me,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he seems genuine.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: I mean... But he could still be used by the
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: party apparatus. For sure. It's like, oh, you want to
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: do this interview? We'll allow you to do this interview. Right.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you're saying. Right. Like, that might
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: even be a way of being used that you don't
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: even realize it.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Because you give somebody a, like, okay, you can interview
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: this guy of ours.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: We know he'll say some things, it'll let people, some
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: will be like, oh, I was right, and it lets
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of steam out of the kettle.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I realized about when I was sitting
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: with Bernie recently is, Yeah, he just kind of yells
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: these things and I've been a Bernie guy. I wanted
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Trump and Bernie to be on the same ticket years ago.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: That would have been wild, huh?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: It would have been great because I feel like you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: need to have two people that have different views on
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the same ticket like a president and a vice president then.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Whoever loses becomes the vice president in the election. That's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: how they used to do it. The first three elections
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: were done. That's how it should be done because then
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you have somebody that you have differing opinions who has
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: differing opinions than you and you guys are in the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: same office and you guys have to figure things out, right? Like,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: To me, that makes sense, right? It seems like the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: most democratic way to go about it. What I realize,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he's coming here and yelling things. He's
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: been yelling the same things for 30 years. Yeah, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: nothing is really getting done. And then when you look
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: at everything, it's like, oh, wait, they've all been, we've
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: all been yelling the same things for 30 years. Nothing
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: is getting, it's all like, you start to realize that
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: the politicians and the people like politicians are coming on
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: a regular podcast and we're just yelling at the people like,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: we've got to do this. We voted you to go
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: do it. Don't, don't vote us to send you up
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the mountain and then you just come back down and
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: be like, we got.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Like, bitch, we just sent you to say we got
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to do it. So that's when I realized, Oh, it's
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: just this. And I think everybody realized that, that it's
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit like theaters. It's a shell game.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: And it's, yes, it's theater. And I think everybody's starting
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to see that. And so I think it's, to me,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's getting very interesting right now, which in
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: some ways also is kind of exciting.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean, that's one of the things
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I do appreciate about Trump is that they are saying
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: some of these things just very nakedly. So then we
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: could just have the conversation about the real thing, right?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: It's like when we go take Maduro in Venezuela, it's
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: not like some bullshit about democracy or this and that.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, no, we do want the oil.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: That is a primary reason why we're going over there.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: So then we don't have to do this whole rigmarole,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: this dance around why we're actually there. It's like, oh,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: we want the oil. So then we can decide, is
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: this really good? Do you really want to be the
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: country that everybody hates? I just, you know, I want
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: to take Greenland. So I'm going to have it. I'm
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: going to take Venezuela. I'm going to take Cuba. Is
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: that really good? Or is it better for U.S. standing
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: in the world to like do more diplomacy to get
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: what we want versus just like straight up just sending
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: aircraft carriers or like, you know, the SEAL team to
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: go in there and do the thing? I agree.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, and I think there's a part
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: of us now that like, you're even looking back at historical,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: like I'll watch old movies, like war movies now. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: it's like, I remember as a child, I'd be like,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, America, we did it, right? And then you
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: watch now and you're like, oh, what are we doing there?
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the Top Gun. It was like basically the
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Iran strike. It was literally the plot is the same,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: the new Top Gun.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, I blame Miles Teller for that. And he knows it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just joking, Miles. But- Oh, you mean the original
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: one you mean?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: The original?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, the new Top Gun.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: The new Top Gun with Miles Teller, yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're saying that.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Because that was a strike on a uranium facility in Iran.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: That was the plot of the movie.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. And do you think that they knew? Like, okay,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of rabbit holes here that we're kind
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of burying eggs in here. But first, you mentioned Venezuela, right?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: What do you think happened in Venezuela? Because here are
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: things that just a regular person I heard. There was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: minerals that we wanted over there. They were one of
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the few programs that had their own financial system, so
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: they weren't on the world financial system. And then that
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: they had done something with voting machines. That was something
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I kept seeing online, that they had some part to
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: do with the voting machines. In hindsight, what did you
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: see about Venezuela, or what were some of the conspiracy,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the ivermectin holes you were in?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Venezuela is really interesting in the sense that, yeah,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: like you said, there weren't a part of this system,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: but they were kind of forced into that position.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: But they weren't a part of what system? The financial system?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: The Western financial system, because they've been sanctioned by the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: United States for like 20 years, roughly. And I only
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: learned about this when I was digging into this, because
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know much about Venezuela, but I wanted to
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: learn about the history. So I was like, okay, let
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: me do some searches on the internet and see- what
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: they're telling us in the news versus like what the
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: history books are saying. And so it was like, well,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what year, but like Hugo Chavez came
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: to power as like the socialist party in Venezuela. And
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: he started nationalizing the oil and he started doing programs
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: to improve, you know, life expectancy and other important metrics
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: in the country, like making people like earn more money,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: all this stuff. So like people's livelihoods, What do they
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: call this?
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: They call them- Quality of life?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yes. People's quality of life was improving in Venezuela, but
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: the U.S. didn't like the fact that they were socialists,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: so we don't want socialism. So then the Obama administration
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: actually deemed Venezuela like an enemy to America. So then
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: we started sanctioning them. So once we started sanctioning them,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: they had to start doing deals with other countries that
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: weren't a part of the U.S. system. So they started
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: doing deals with Russia and China and And now fast
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: forward 20 years later, we're like, these guys are selling
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: oil to China. They're selling oil to Russia. We don't
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: like this. But then you look back like, well, you
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: forced them to sell them to those countries. Those are
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: the only countries that aren't a part of your block.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: So then those are the only countries they could sell
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: it to. So then they're like, oh, the Venezuelan economy
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: is so bad. They've Everybody lives in poverty. Part of
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: the reason for that is you don't allow them to
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: trade with any of our allies. Right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: We cut them off at a time when they were growing.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Why do we want to stop them from growing stronger,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: do you feel like?
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Well, because their government was socialist. So now all of
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: a sudden you have a socialist regime.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: That's doing well.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Doing well right in sort of your backyard area, which
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: is not ideal for sort of our capitalist kind of style.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: You don't want an example of that here. That's just
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: my opinion. So then they started sanctioning. So it's a
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: bipartisan thing. It's not just Trump government. Obama government started
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: this with the sanctioning. Trump added on, made it more robust,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: the sanctions. And then all of a sudden, wow, we
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: got to get this guy out of power because he's
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: smuggling drugs or something like that. But also he was
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: very open about the oil. Like he's like, we got
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: to get the oil. But then part of it also too,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I think is the Israel part is like a side piece,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: but it does play an important piece.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: What do you mean the Israel part?
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: So like basically whatever country that opposes Israel, they basically
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: tell us like, we got to take that country out.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: We got to do a regime change. So like a
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: lot of that is in the Middle East, but there's
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: some other countries, for example, in Venezuela, they are very
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: opposed to the Israeli government. Maduro was very open about
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: calling what's happening in Gaza a genocide. And so they're like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: we got to get rid of this. And this is
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: something I learned 20 years ago. There was an opposition guy.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I can't remember his name, but he was running for president.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: And the media kind of slandered him or they smeared
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: him as a homosexual and a Zionist. So to me,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: that's like, okay, that means within the Venezuelan culture, Zionism
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: is a bad thing. They're ascribing to this guy. So
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I think Israel will come in and say, this is
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: a country that doesn't really– support our existence, we should
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: do a regime change.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I see. So you're thinking that part of this was
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that Israel wanted to come in and have some effect
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: on a country that doesn't support them.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And you see that happening with other countries that
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: are not. I mean, Iran is probably the main one
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: right now. That's like the last of their list. I
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: saw you talking to Dave Smith about this, right? There's
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: like a list of seven countries in the middle.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: From like the neocons and stuff like that?
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Like wanting to take over?
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So then Iran is on that list. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: it's like, that's why we got to take it out.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Even though we have no nuclear weapons at this point, supposedly.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: They told us. They did?
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, one of the things is Henry Capriles.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes, this is the guy I was talking about.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Enrique Capriles Radonsky is a Venezuelan politician who served as
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the 36th governor of Miranda. He ran against Nicolas Maduro
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: in Venezuela's 2013 presidential election. Maduro and his supporters spread
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: rumors about Capriles' homosexuality. as a smear attack, including public slurs.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Enrique Capriles Radonski was labeled a Zionist by Venezuelan state
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: media and Chavez Maduro allies. These accusations framed him as
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: tied to international Zionism, often alongside his Jewish heritage. Oh,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: so he was a Jewish guy? Despite his Catholic faith.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it seemed like they shouldn't have done that to him,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: but I guess that's how the media works, right?
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: That's how the media works, yeah. It's a state-controlled media,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: which we have a lot of nowadays with, like, CBS
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: News is sort of I would say, state-controlled media since
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: it was sold off to Larry Ellison.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry Weiss started controlling over there. How do you
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: feel about that that's been since she took over, kind of?
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Well, it hasn't really worked out. I think once she
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: took it over, it was very overtly clear what they
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: were trying to do, right? They were doing pieces that
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: were saying good stuff about Marco Rubio. They were hailing
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: him as some kind of genius guy. They were also
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: doing pro-Israel stuff. propaganda so it was very I think
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: it's very clear to people who consume the news what
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: was going on and it's actually I think that's a
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: playbook that's maybe a little bit outdated because not that
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: many people get their news directly from CBS News anymore
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: there's like that crowd is decreasing it's like old people
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say. Yeah, no.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people don't even have a cable anymore.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where you would find it. It's
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: like it used to be you knew where the news
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: channels were.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: It used to be like you knew who the nightly
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: anchor was at all these, like the Walter Cronkites or
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the Peter Jennings.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And now it's confusing. Now you have Don Lemon like
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: tickling some guy in a church or whatever, you know?
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Just trying to like tickle the holy water out of
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: some honky or whatever. And you're like, what is even
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: happening anymore?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: So I think just an outdated strategy. They think, oh,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: I want to buy the news so I can control
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: the news.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: But it turns out people don't really like that. People
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: know that. And that's the same thing that happened to
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Washington Post too, right? Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: He thought they were going to be able to do
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: kind of pro Bezos propaganda for him. Turns out all
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: his viewers or readers hated that. They canceled. And now,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you know, they're doing, I think they just laid off
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: like a third of their staff.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Wow. And a lot of that media, it's just older media.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: So it's just kind of like, you know, some of
• 54:07
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• 54:09
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• 54:11
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• 54:12
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• 54:16
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  Speaker 3: There's other ways they're trying to subversively control independent media
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: as well. And we can get into that if you
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: want later on.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, you got deplatformed. So that was
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: from TikTok, you said, and it was from something that was.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it was related to me being named
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: anti-Semite of the week.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: And I think they have like tight connections because TikTok's
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: moderation team is run by an IDF soldier. Is it? Yeah.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: She was hired recently to run moderation at TikTok. She's
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: an American who... Moved to Israel, then got Israeli citizenship.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Erica Mendel. That's a pretty name. IDF soldier, public policy
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: manager of hate speech at TikTok. Well, did you say
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: something that was hate speech?
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: Well, according to them, yes, because I've been really critical
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: of the Israeli government, the genocide, all these subversive tactics. They've,
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: you know, they lied to us about all kinds of stuff.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: So I do report on that. And that is now
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: considered hate speech. at TikTok. So I'm criticizing the Netanyahu
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: government for what they've done that is now considered because
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: of the definition. Now they're basically saying anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: That is the definition that they're all adopting, including the ADL.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: So if I criticize the government, that's sort of a
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: proxy for criticism of Jewish people.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Well, to me, that seems bizarre. I mean, I'm at
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: the comedy store last night and people are having jokes
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: that are anti-Israel. And the crowd is going nuts, right?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: The entire crowd is cheering in those moments. You know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it seems to be a very popular sentiment that people
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: aren't going to support a government that's doing what I
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: believe is largely believed by most people these days to
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: be a genocide or to be, you know, some people
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: will call it a new Holocaust or whatever. People call
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: it different things, right? But that most people believe that
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: it's wrong, right? People saw it. You can't trick my heart.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's just like, if you've been,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: if the media has been telling me for years with
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: a Holocaust definition that this is wrong, then you can't
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: show me the same thing and say it's– now it's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: not wrong for some reason. But also to not attach
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: that to my Jewish friends. Like I had Jewish friends
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: who are in the audience this weekend. And I make
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: anti-Israel jokes and they don't have– none of my friends
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: have a problem with it. So I think– I don't
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: know how one really connects to the other. And I
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's a– is that a problem of
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: someone who's just trying to have a voice or is
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: that an Israel's problem that they need to figure out?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: with their own behavior. Is that kind of, does that
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: make any.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Sense to you?
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I know exactly what you're saying. I think
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: part of it is too, it's kind of a little
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: bit dark. I think what I'm about to say, but
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: I think part of them wants to create more antisemitism.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: That's like sort of the goal is like, you are
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: not antisemitic at all. You don't have any hatred towards
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Jewish people. You think everybody should be treated the same,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: depending regardless of their you know, creed or color, race,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: immutable traits, whatever. And they want to make it so
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: that you actually don't like them. Because part of the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Israel project is getting Jewish people to move to Israel.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: This is what I've been told. This is what I've
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: been researching for the last couple of years. Like that's
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: part of their strategy. There was a very famous Israeli
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: podcaster who was like, oh, I love Mamdani. And they
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: were like, why do you love Mamdani? He's like an anti-Semite.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: I don't believe that's true, but they're saying, hey, Mamdani's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: really anti-Israel. He's like, this is great, because this is
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: going to get people to move to Israel. That's what
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: I want. And so I think that's part of the strategy.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: There's also another thing, too, with a group like the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: Anti-Defamation League, that their whole job is to reduce anti-Semitism.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Their job is combating anti-Semitism.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Well, that makes sense. I mean, I think you want
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: to be able to protect people.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: So the crux of that is then you get into
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: sort of— No. They were pretty much run by the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Israeli guys. So that's the problem with the ADL.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: But that would seem like something they should do is
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: speak out against the leader.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: No, the ADL has long been, I did a whole
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: mini documentary.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: But does it make sense what I'm saying? Like, why
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you speak out against the bad guy?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Because the ADL is acting on behalf of the Israeli
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: government as sort of a spy organization in America. I mean,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: you could look at it as ADL.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: So they're not a free-thinking group. They're a group that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: is a.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're a civil... They call themselves a civil rights group.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: But what they're actually doing is trying to, like, create
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: more anti-Semitic behavior in the United States. Because if you
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: think about it this way, like, you have an organization.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Your whole thing is, like, combating anti-Semitism. So let's say
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: one day there's no more anti-Semitism. What happens to these organizations?
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: You're out of work.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: You're out of work. So then they got to create more.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: So every year, the ADL is crazy. Every year, the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: ADL has published the anti-Semitism report. It's gone up every
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: single year. The same guy is still there. I'm like,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: if you were the CEO of a company and your job,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: you're doing shittier and shittier job, wouldn't you get fired
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: when somebody else go in there? You would need that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: number to come down. But every year, the number is
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: going up. The donations are going up. They're in the
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: very nice building in New York City. on Park Avenue.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: So there's a whole industrial complex. Same thing with the homeless.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: I make the analogy of the homeless industrial complex in
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: California where so much money is pouring into homelessness, but
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: what happens if we actually solve this problem for all
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: these organizations? Like you need this to continue. So then
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: nothing gets done.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing. You need all these things to continue, right?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: You need the racism to continue. You need a crime
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: because then you have people living in fear, right? Like
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: you need all these things, right? Because it does start
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: to feel like we're living in a theater that's sort
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: of controlled. Yes. Well, let's get into some stuff that's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: kind of current.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: And do you feel like an anti-Semite? Did you feel
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: like that that was fair that they said that?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Well, no, absolutely not. You can go to that article.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: There's nothing in there that I said, I don't, well,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: first of all, speaking personally, like I don't have any problem.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: I have a lot of Jewish friends. I went to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: school in New York. I've, you know, so I'm, I'm
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: very sort of connected in that community. And some of
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: the bagel bell, I mean, I wouldn't never, I would
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: never sort of, I try to be like, I'm like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: so scared of even saying anything like that. You know
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: What, the bagel bell?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: That's funny, dude. Who doesn't love good bagels anyway? My
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: friend Max is opening a bagel shop in Florida right now.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know. I love it. I mean, every time
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: I'm in New York, yeah, I'm eating bagels like every
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: other meal.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Dude, what I don't like is when you go there
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: and they don't have cinnamon raisin bagels.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Is that your thing?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I just like to have it as an option.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: If you're not giving that as an option, it makes
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: me question you. It's like, what if a kid comes
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: in here? What if somebody who wants to have a
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: little bit of a sweeter day comes in?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Well, they got the blueberry for that.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe in that one. Anyway, what does
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: he say? James Lee is a conspiracist who brands himself
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: as a champion of the independent thought. He uses his
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: persona to spread longstanding anti-Semitic tropes and conspiracy theories. His
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: commentary distorts the nature of anti-Semitism and vilifies Jewish communities. Damn, James.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I challenged him to find an example of me
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: vilifying a Jewish community, you know?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it says right here they aren't even hiding
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: it anymore. Israel owns America.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they do.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about that for a second, man. You know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: because so much now there's like, why are we giving
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: money to Israel? You hear that all the time, right?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: It's not even, you know, something that people are scared
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to even talk about anymore. It's like, what are we
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: sending all this money to Israel for? And really just
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: why is there the connection, right? Like it's... And there's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: not like a clear answer. Sometimes it's never like, Hey,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: this is our ally. This is because, you know, this is, um,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: but yeah, you're like, we can't pay our nurses. We can't,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? We don't have like, we
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: have issues in our public schools. More people are choosing
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: to homeschool than ever, which is just another burden on
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the family really.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Um, Our food supply has been deemed toxic, right? That's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: something that we're battling right now. 70% of young men
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: can't serve in the military because of the physical shape
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: that they're in, right? So you start to wonder, why
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: do we have this extra money to just send to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: a place, right? So that I think is a very
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: fair question. And I've been thinking about it a lot,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and I do think, I don't think we're just sending
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: money to a place. I do believe that our country
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: is owned by Israel and that, so you just give
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: the money to the boss. So it's not us. They're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: just getting the money. That's, that's theirs.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: That's theirs. Yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: That's what I started to realize. Cause I'm like, yeah,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: cause if you do this for so long and it
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any, you know what I'm saying? Like there's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: no answer. It's like, oh, well that's just, that's the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: boss coming and just getting his money, you know? And so, um, yeah,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I just think that that's kind of where we're at.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in an un-American way. I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: think there's still like a lot of like strength and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: heart in the idea of America. But I've thought for
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a long time that we're just like an LLC, like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: we're a shell company that's owned by Israel. And that's
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: honestly just what it feels like more and more.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, part of it's like we're supposed to be
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: like allies. So then we're supposed to have like cooperation.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: You get something out of it. We get something out
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: of it. But then I recently was listening to a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: podcast with that CIA guy. I don't know if you've
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: talked to him, John Kiriakou.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: The long guy with the curly hair?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: No, John Kiriakou looks like that, yep.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: And is he a good guy?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: He's a good, so he was the one that, he
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: was the one that whistle blew the torture program after
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Iraq and in Guantanamo and those places. And he went
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: to jail for two years because he violated some statute
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: or whatever for telling us about that, that we were
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: torturing people.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, he told it?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, who exposed the treatment of Al-Qaeda
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: suspects held in secret prisons, Told the Bureau today it
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: was now down to journalists to tell the full story
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: about the intelligence agency torture program because politicians did not
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: have the will.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, got it.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get some clarity on who
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: So anyways, so he was asked, is there like one
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: particular intelligence agency that you just did not trust? He
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, Mossad. And he was telling a story
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: about how every time Mossad comes into the CIA headquarters,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: they try to drop off some gift that has like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: a bug in it. So the listening device and every
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: single time they would catch them, but guys, you have
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: to stop bringing these, these bugging devices into our headquarters.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: And eventually I think the Mossad is, was, is no
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: longer allowed at CIA headquarters because they keep trying to
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: bug our conference rooms.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: But they have to have, they have access to our
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: conference rooms. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, do
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: you think that that's, Oh, this was in the past?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: You mean recently?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: Past.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: So he was the one who was kind of, he
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: was just saying that those were some stories from that.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm like, this is not how an ally
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: should act, right? Because we're supposed to be partners. Like,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: why are you trying to bug or, you know, spy
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: on us?
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Right, that's one of the things. I think Tucker was
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: talking to Ted Cruz, like, should Israel spy on us? Like,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: is that something that they should do as an ally?
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. It's like, this relationship seems like.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think they're just monitoring their employees.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of an abusive relationship is what
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: is going on, right? That's kind of how I would
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: view it in like a more like, you know, just
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: like a layman's way of putting it is like, I
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: think this is an abusive relationship. They keep kicking us
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: and then we keep going back to them and like saying, please, well,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: we'll do better next time and we'll help you and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: this and that.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Well, what spurned this, I mean, the thing that spurned
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: this is the stuff in Gaza. That's what spurned so
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: much of this people looking at Israel and being like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: what is going on here?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Right? That's what it broke for the regular American public.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I probably was, I was definitely not looking at Israel before.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: The only weird thing that I saw that kind of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: got my sort of red flags raised was about a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: year before that, Israel had killed a journalist, an Al
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Jazeera journalist, who was, I believe, an American Palestinian. And
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: they said, no, they were caught in the line of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: fire or something like that. But then it later came
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: out that, yeah, they just executed her. And I'm like,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: what's going on here? This is very bizarre. Like, why
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: are they able to just kill journalists without any kind
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: of international condemnation or anything like that without any accountability.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: So there's something weird going on here. And then October
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: 7th happened, and that's when I think everybody started looking
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: in and you do one search and like, oh, this is,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: you know, this is what, and Charlie Kirk was one
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: of the first ones, I think two days after he
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: was like, this is one of the, you know, why was,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: why did this even happen? Like, was there a stand
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: down order kind of situation? Like, how are they even
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: able to come across the border? This is one of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: the most secure borders in the world. How did it
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: take them six hours? He's like, it takes 45 minutes
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: to fly from Jerusalem to the border. Why are you–
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: what's going on here? Was there something to then create
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: this excuse to then now launch like a counteroffensive, quote-unquote counteroffensive,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: and basically turn Gaza into rebel?
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: And do you think that that's what happened? What do
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: you feel like about it?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, this is based on my conjecture.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: What does conjecture mean?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Conjecture is like just me sort of coming up with
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: a claim without knowing all the information. Because, of course,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I'm not in the security briefing room. So guessing or whatever.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I'm guessing a little bit.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: But Asian guessing has got to be better than just
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: regular white guessing, yeah?
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Some would say that.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Like when you guys guess, dude, I bet it's, you know.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Look, I got a pretty good track record of my conjectures.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: I'll just put it that way. Got it. So there's
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: no other explanation. Like why, you know, it would at
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: most take one hour for them to respond. It took
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: them six hours to respond. Doesn't make any sense. So
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: then it's kind of like 9-11. It's like some, we
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: kind of knew some shit. Like somebody knew something, right?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: There was like the shorting of the airline stocks. There
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: were people taking insurance out on the building. Somebody knew something.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: In this situation, it seemed like There were people in
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: the Israeli government who knew that this was about to come,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: and they just kind of let it happen, therefore creating
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: the pretense to then destroy Gaza.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Well, it was interesting that there was allegedly plans to
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: build buildings and that sort of thing in Gaza years earlier.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true or not, but I've
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: heard that somewhere, allegedly.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: And that's not the new thing with Jared Kushner and
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: the new Gaza– Well, yeah.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, let's do the mall over there. We're
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: going to build a five guys, you know. But who's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: going to go eat on top of a haunted burial
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: site of hundreds of thousands of people?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. And it's like, do you really
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: want a vacation there with your family? Would you take
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: your kids? It's like, oh, we're going to go to,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I guess good real estate.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: But what if you're playing on the beach and there's
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: just a bunch of bones in the sand? You know
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't want to go there. I'll stay
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Let's go down some of the rabbit holes because these
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: are things you like to investigate or get curious about.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Epstein and the files release. What do
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: you think is happening with the document release? Because it
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: seems very odd as a regular guy that we're getting documents, right?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: They're coming this years later. Both parties have been in
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Democratic and Republican have been in office since then.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: More than ever, it seems like both parties are just
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: the same party with.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: A different name. That's that's that's literally my shirt.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Different brand. Same ingredients. Oh, it's hilarious. So true. Oh,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: it's almost like that cola Pepsi war a little bit. Oh,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that's great. And so it's just an interesting time. And
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: the names that are redacted aren't the names of the victims.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: It's just like there's so much going on there. What
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: do you think about it?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they tried. I mean, I don't think
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: they thought these files would ever come out. Neither party.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think they thought. I think they were
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: going to bury this forever.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: So you don't think it's a strategic release right now?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: No, I think right now is like, this is what
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: we're going to offer because they were forced through that
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: boat that Thomas Massey and Roe Connick, big credit to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: them to have the political courage to keep going.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: And we had them both on here. Shout out, bro.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I will say that shit.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Pull up.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: But anyway go on so take us into some of
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: that yeah what are some of the things that you
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: feel like yeah so you don't think it's strategic I
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: don't think I think this is this is a release
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: so you think it's an effect that they didn't want
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: to do you didn't want to do this they didn't
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: want to do this and so that's why you have
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: all the names of the perpetrators being redacted right they're
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: only supposed to redact the victims names a lot of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the perpetrators names are redacted And now they're forcing them
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: to unredact them.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: There's a whole process here. But I think this is
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: like we'll put something out because we're legally compelled to
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: do it by the vote. It was like past unanimous.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: But I think there's one person who voted present and
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: because they were forced. You don't want to be on
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: the record voting against disclosure, putting pedophiles in jail. You
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: don't want to be that guy. or gal, right? So
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: then they were all forced to vote for it because
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: they got, because they didn't, they did not want that
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: to get to the House floor or the Senate, but
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: they had to vote for it because once it was there,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be voting against it. Like what,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: you're trying to cover up for billionaire pedophiles? You don't
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: want to be on the record doing that. So I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: think this release was a result of that. And in
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: terms of the Epstein stuff, like what we're going to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: get into, I just want to say like, there are
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that have looked into Epstein for decades.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Like if you want to bring, do a whole episode
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: on Epstein, like you got to bring in somebody like
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: Whitney Webb or, Julie Brown, you know, she's from the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Miami Herald. She's been covering Epstein since like 2005. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: we're trying to get her in, actually. So I'm just prefacing, like, hey,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: we're going to look into this Epstein stuff, but I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: want to give credit to, like, those are the people
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: that are, like, the Epstein experts. I'm just the regular
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: dude that's looking at the files.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been digging. You just came to kind of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: till the soil a little.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly, exactly. So then one big thing that I wanted
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: to start out looking at was to answer the big question.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when Kash Patel... went in front of
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Congress and he said, we have zero evidence that Epstein
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: trafficked any young girls to anybody. 100%. Right? And everybody
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: was like, what? How is that possible? You were railing
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: about the Epstein files for years and now you go
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: in and say you found nothing? And so that was
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: one of the first things like, hey, do we have,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: do you want to play that first?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: And this is my boy out of Louisiana right here.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Shout out.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: You've seen most of the files. Who, if anyone, did
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Epstein traffic these young women to besides himself?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: Himself, there is no credible information.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: None.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: he trafficked to other individuals. And the information we have, again,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: is limited.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: So the answer is no one?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: For the information that we have.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: In the files?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: In the case file.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Dude, I believe– I'm not joking. There's people that say
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: that they created like a fake office and everything– for
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Patel and we're only giving him certain information.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: Oh, so he didn't see the stuff that was?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Even what he said, if you listen there, from this limited,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: he said, did he say limited stuff I've seen or
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen, which has been limited. So who
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: knows if he even saw everything?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: So he's, well, you're saying that somebody's even hiding something
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: from him. That means that another person above a shadow figure.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: Like he goes into an office and has this perception
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: that everything is a certain way and it's, he doesn't,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: it's not, he doesn't know. So then of course he's
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: going to show up and he, what he's saying is
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: the truth to him.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Because he even said from a limited, what did he say, Nick?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: For the information that we have.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Well, they have it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: But he's denoting that, you know what I'm saying, from
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the information that we have. I bet he didn't even
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: see all of this stuff.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I bet he saw some of it because the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: stuff that has been released, some say it's half, some
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: say the Channel 4 News in the UK say it's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: 2% of what the total is. We don't know what
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: the real number is. So one of the things I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: want to look at is, is there anything in the
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: files that suggests that Epstein trafficked young girls to other
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: people other than himself? That's a big question that we
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: should all have answered, and I'm not even looking, so there's,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: within the files, there's the emails, right, between Epstein and
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: a bunch of other people, but there's also like FBI
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: tip stuff, where people are saying crazy, this is where
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: you see a lot of the Trump stuff, is like people,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: calling the tip line saying, I saw Trump do this,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: I saw Trump do that. So I'm like removing that stuff.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: I'm just going off the emails to say, look, does
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: it look like? And there's one email chain between Epstein
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: and Steve Tisch. And Steve Tisch is the owner of
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: the New York Giants.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Is he really?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Shout out Jackson Dart.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: And so let's start at the bottom because this is the,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: let's do it in chronological order, right? Okay. I don't
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: know if you want to read or you want me
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: to read.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: You be, I'll be, I don't know who to be.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: I'll be, I guess I'll be Tisch.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: All right. All right.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh, and you'd be Epstein.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Uh, hi, Jeffrey.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I just had lunch with your assistant's friend blank who
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: I met at your house Wednesday morning.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Very sweet girl. Do you know anything about her? Thanks, Steve.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: And then Epstein says, no, but I will ask blank
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: all confidential. I will get all info. Did you contact
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: the great fake ass tit blank? She's a character short
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: term has an older boyfriend going to acting school, a
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: 10 ass, uh, I am happy to have you as
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: a new but obviously shared interest friend. Thanks, Jeffrey.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Curious to know about Redacted. I will contact Redacted pro
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: or civilian. So that probably means sex worker or just
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: a regular non-sex worker.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: Right. And then the next thing is send me a
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: number to call. I don't like records of these conversations, obviously. Oh, 310-779-8969.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder if I already have it in my phone. Dude,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: if I already have it in my phone, bro, somebody's
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: going to win a winter coat. That's what we're giving
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: away this year, dude. If they allow us to have it.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Is this stupid that I'm looking?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: If you call, tell them we're live to tape.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. Nope, nothing. Okay.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Close call.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, sorry. So then Tish writes, 310-779-8969.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: I've reached out to blank. She's not on this trip.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Thanks, yeah. And this is Epstein. Report just in. You
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: did very well. She wants to go to the play.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: She's a little freaked out by the age difference, but
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: go slow and wait. I will try to convince her
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: not to return to Ukraine. Having her crying worked. Okay. Nice.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Report. Funny comment on crying. So trying to seem like
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: he's not involved.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: Totally. Well, I don't know.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: It seems like, okay. So, I mean, it's a little
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: bit disturbing with the crying. It's like, why are you
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: having her cry? Like, was it some pressure involved?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Right, but it could have just been that she was
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: upset about something as well.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Could have been, yes. There are, I guess, innocent explanations
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: for this. But at the very least, this looks like
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: he's trafficking somebody to somebody else. The subject line is
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: Ukrainian girl.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. So
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't say that she's an adult in this? It
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: says that she's younger?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: It doesn't say the age.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: But it says she's young.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Got it. But she says she has a boyfriend at
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: some point too, but that could still be anything.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not defending. I'm just trying to look at things openly. Yeah. Okay,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: so you're saying that this justifies some form of trafficking.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it justifies some form of investigation at
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: the very least. You should look into what the hell
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: this was.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Got it. And is it being investigated?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know for sure. I think the NFL hasn't
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: done anything yet. There are people who are journalists writing
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: articles who said this should be looked at. I think
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Steve Tisch- you know, should be investigated. Cause there's probably,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: cause you imagine this is just an email and then
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: in that email it says, I don't like talking about
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: this over email. So there's probably more conversations that are
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: not documented. Yeah.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: And also, I mean, watch them just end up making
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: them kick off from the five yard line or something
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like things
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: are so merged and weird these days.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: Who knows? So I think there's some other, there's some
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: other emails that I sent to Zach that was like
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: evidence of this kind of thing.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Um, there were, can we look at some of those?
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Some other ones here. Yeah. Let's look
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: at some other ones here. Organize blank place for you.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Blank each girl. Nice.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: Will do. So this seems like he's organizing some meetup
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: with some women with this redacted person. We don't know
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: who that is. Got it. Right, so I feel like
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: this is, to me, from the outside looking in, because
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: you're obviously not going to write in there, yes, I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: am trafficking young girls to you, ages five to, you know,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: you're not going to say that. You're going to probably
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: be a little bit more subtle about it.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Do you know any girls that are into girls who
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: might be into me? And that's from someone, Epstein. Going
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: to dancing again starting Tuesday. Let me know if you're
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: in town next week, and I'll try to see if
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: some of the girls are interested.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: And what does dancing mean?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Any news? Oh, I see what you're saying.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Going to be dancing again starting Thursday.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: Hmm.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: So to me, these are just, you know, cursory searches
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: from a nobody. I'm just like, hey, is there something here?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: It seems like at the very least there should be
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: some investigation happening. I mean, you're seeing in other countries
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: people are getting arrested. Like Prince Andrew's getting arrested. Lord
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: Mendelsohn just got arrested.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Lord Mendelsohn did?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Who is it?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: Who is Lord Mendelsohn? Yeah. He's like some British, you know.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Peter Mendelsohn.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah. Peter Lord Mendelsohn.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: The British are popping off on him, huh? Watch him
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: get Paddington Bear for something, dude. He always looked a
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: little suspicious, you know. What are some of the other
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: most suspicious things that you've seen from the Epstein files?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: Well, so the other thing that I wanted to look into, too,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: was the big conspiracy is like, oh, Epstein was running
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: a blackmail operation. He's a spy. running a blackmail operation
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: on behalf of Israel, right? You probably heard that. Yes.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think he was a spy or do you
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: think he was just a guy that was like, you know,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: obviously perverted pedophile type of dude who was just like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: you know, just a bad dude into some dark shit
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: and had a lot of money.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: He was definitely a spy. I mean, if you could
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: pull up, he was issued in the eighties, an Austrian passport.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: So I don't know how you can get an Austrian
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: passport without Well, okay, so fake Austrian passport, right? So
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: you have his name go up there to the top, right?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: Morius Roberts.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: He looks like a little bitch. Look at him.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: So then how do you get one of these things?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Marius Robert was his name. First of all, that's cultural appropriation.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and say that right now, bro.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: Shout out all the real Mariuses out there. And he
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: said he was Saudi Arabian.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is a real passport that was used. So
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: it's fake in the sense that Epstein obviously was not Austrian.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: So he got a passport from somebody. He got a
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: passport from somebody in the 1980s. And this is before
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: he even met Les Wexner.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: So to me, this is some indication that, okay, so
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: he maybe was tied up with the State Department or intelligence, right?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: He was an asset of some sort that they wanted
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: to issue this to so you could travel around Europe.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: using an alias.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Right. There could have been thousand, a hundred different versions
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: of him. And he's one that over time just worked
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: well enough, you know, that, or that had enough success.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, cause with anything you do
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: like a seed kind of program, you would do like,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: let's see, you know, let's see what's going on here.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Well, so based on my historical cursory historical knowledge, this
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: is done by the CIA. So the 1970s, there was
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: a thing called the church committee. Have you looked into
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: the church committee at all? But that's when all the
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: crazy shit came out with like, Cointelpro and MKUltra, where
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: they basically exposed the CIA for all these covert operations,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: regime change in the Middle East and Iran. All this
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: stuff came out. Because prior to the 1970s, the CIA
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: would be just doing this stuff. They were just on
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: CIA records. They're doing this stuff. And then after the
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: church committee, they basically had to go through various channels
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: of mobsters or seedy characters in order to still continue
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: to do what they do.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I see, but have it off the books.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: Have it off the books. So then they need guys
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: like Epstein to carry out some of the stuff who's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: not officially a CIA agent. Before they just had agents
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: going in.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Was it coming out of Vietnam that that energy just
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: started to change things kind of?
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I'm trying, I don't exactly, yeah.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like people started to not
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: just believe in what we were doing was good.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I think it was like the JFK assassination was a
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: big thing, right? Everybody was like, this is really bizarre.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: Like how did this happen? There was the bullets that
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: went in these three directions. And then there was, The
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: RFK assassination was also very bizarre. MLK, if you looked
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: at every single one of those, they're all very weird.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: I think people started losing trust in the American government.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: And then on top of that, you had this massive
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: war in Vietnam, like you were saying. So then there
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: was that political will to like, hey, we need to expose.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: Similar right now, I think with Epstein, it's like, hey,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: we need to expose some of these billionaires that are
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: running the country. It's gone too far. It's not like
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: We're supporting Israel, but we're still building nice bridges and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: we're fixing the roads and the hospitals. It's like if
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: they did some– I mean this is a little bit cynical,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: but if they did some of that stuff, I think
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: people would probably pay less attention to Israel. They'd be like, okay, sure, whatever.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: Do that over there.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Why don't they do that stuff in addition to it
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: then I wonder?
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: That's the big question. It's like why– I think it's
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: because everything is so– this is my take going to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: business school just by background is everything is so– like
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: siloed in the sense that you're only thinking about your
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: own company. So it's like, I just want to maximize
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: everything for myself. So they're not really thinking about the collective, like, Hey,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: if we do this in conjunction with everybody else, like
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: we could, you know, take over the world. They're just like,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: everybody's kind of getting their own piece of the pie.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: They're trying to just get their cut. And there's not,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: there's like, I think there's like less collaboration than people
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: think in terms of the conspiracy world, but there's a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: lot of various conspiracies out there that are very real.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: That's my take. Um, As a normie. Yeah. Do you,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: you mentioned Lex Wexner is the guy's name? So Les Wexner,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: so he was the- Who is he? He is the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: billionaire owner of L Brand. So he owned a bunch
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: of retail stores like Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie & Fitch, Bath
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: & Body Works. And he signed over. So this is his,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: because everybody, so that's when Epstein went to another level.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: But then he was actually just deposed because he didn't
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: speak about Epstein for a very, very long time. He
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: always said it was, I regret my association with Epstein.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: And he didn't say nothing much. Like he just recently
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: got deposed by the US Congress. And he gave this long,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: I think it was like six hours, but there's some
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: really interesting clips that came out of it. Cause people
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: ask him like, why did you trust Jeffrey Epstein with
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: all your money? Cause he literally signed over power of
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: attorney of his entire financial estate.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Is that true?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: Over to him.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Hmm.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: And people were asking why, you know, what gave you
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: the confidence that you could trust? It's like, did you,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: cause they're like, did you, how did you meet him?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: He's like, Oh, I was introduced by a friend of mine.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: And then so like what did he tell you that
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: he did to like have you give over basically control
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: of all of your money? And he said that Epstein
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: was working as the– for the Rothschilds as their money manager.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: So I'm like this is even before Wexner, which is
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: where we think he got all his money. So even
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: before that, somehow Jeffrey Epstein, like a high school math teacher,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: was working for the Rothschilds. Like how did that happen? Yeah.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Which is then to me, it's like back to the
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: spy thing. It's like, was he some sort of intelligence
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: asset that was positioned within these people who are pulling
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: the strings, like powerful families, institutions around the world? That's
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: my hypothesis around it.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Got it. So that's who he is. And we don't
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: know any crimes that he did. He's just associated with them, right?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: There's no- against this Mr. Wexner, is there?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any specific accusation. I do know
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: there's a famous documentary that came out where the CEO
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: of Abercrombie was using Abercrombie to recruit young men into prostitution.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: The CEO was of Abercrombie? Pull that up.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Jeffries.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get a getter at him.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Mike Jeffries, sex trafficking. Yeah, right here. Former Abercrombie &
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Fitch CEO charged with operating sex trafficking ring.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Mike Jeffries, former CEO of U.S. clothing company Abercrombie & Fitch,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: has been arrested for alleged sex trafficking and interstate prostitution
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: following weeks of speculation or allegation of professional misconduct. Jeffrey's
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: romantic partner Matthew Smith, who is also a man, and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: association James Jacobson were arrested for alleged role in the Enterprise.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Did they ever convict him or was he just alleged?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's in jail. Let me see.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: U.S.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Attorney Breon Pierce said powerful individual's for too long have
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: trafficked and abused for their own sexual pleasure young people
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: with few resources.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: Is he in jail? I'm very curious if he's in jail. Like,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: where is he right now? This is a perplexity question.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: It is, huh? Leave this open and scroll down for
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit and go look at perplexities separately so
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I can keep reading. I just want to see what they're...
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: It describes sexual bachanals spanning from New York to Morocco
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: in which a recruited man were given drugs, lubricants, condoms, costumes...
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: And sometimes erection-inducing penile injections that cause painful hours-long reactions. Boners, probably.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: I looked it up. He's not in jail. He's set
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: to go on trial. They just found that he's fit
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: to stand trial. This was in December.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: They're trying to go with the insanity plea.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's... It's not.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: He's set to go on trial.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: So the thing about Wexner... Wexner. Les Wexner. Hard to
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: say his name. Les Wexner is that he's also involved
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: in that whole Israeli Zionist money moving operation from Israel
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: to the United States back and forth to support various
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Zionist causes. He's one of the big funders of the
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: birthright trips to Israel. I don't know how much you
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: know about that, but I've talked to a few people.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: The purpose of that, they're describing like that's another crazy
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: sex party type of thing. Really? Yes.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I never heard that. I have heard that. Yeah.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There's this one as well, Epstein, yeah, Israel and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: the CIA, how the Iran contraplanes landed at Les Wexner's base.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: So they're running some kind of CIA operation using Wexner's
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: airport in Ohio, and Jeffrey Epstein was facilitating something within there.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: Very complicated, but it's like, okay, so these guys are
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: not just normal people. Got it.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: So we're saying that that guy's an example of somebody
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: that worked under Lex Wexner in one of his companies.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: Well, Les Weisner hired him to run Abercrombie & Fitch.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Got it. Who's Howard Lutnick? That's a name that you
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: hear a lot.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Well, Howard Lutnick is the Commerce Secretary right now.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, the Commerce Secretary, U.S. Commerce?
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: And he was on record. He gave this whole melodramatic
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: interview where he said, he lived right next door to
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein, by the way, literally next door neighbors, 9
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: and 11. That'll come back later. East 72nd Street.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: 9-11.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Right next door to Jeffrey Epstein, and he was asked,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: you know, what was your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? He said, well,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: I went over to his house once with my wife.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: I saw a massage table on the counter. I turned,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, what is this disgusting man? And
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: we left immediately. We never spoke to him. I was
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: never in another room with him ever again because this
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: is a disgusting human being. And then the emails come
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: out and there's like all kinds of correspondences with Jeffrey
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: Epstein about like visiting the island. There's emails about them
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: investing in a company together. So they were very much
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: closer than he let on.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Than Lutnick let on.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he just basically straight up bold-faced lie to
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: the American people.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: So is he being held on charges or anything?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: No, but he should be held on charges for another thing,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: which he just did the other day, which is, you know,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: the Trump tariffs.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: Right, they just voted against him. SCOTUS just voted against him, right?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: So then he was out there publicly telling the American
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: people prior to the SCOTUS voting saying, oh yeah, I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: think SCOTUS will side with President Trump on this one.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: But his firm that's run by his sons now was
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: like shorting these tariffs. Basically, they're buying insurance against the tariffs.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Where were they doing that? Like on some of these
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like polymarket sites and stuff like that?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: No, it's through some kind of financial instrument that's way
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: more complex than I can probably explain.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: Wow. So Howard Lutnick's family firm bought up the rights
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: to tariff refunds for $ 0. 20 to $ 0. 30 on the dollar
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: after Liberation Day last year. Today, the Supreme Court struck
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: the tariffs down for every $ 100 invested. Lutnick's sons just
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: made $ 3 to $ 5x. Welcome to crony corruption America.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: So that's just classic insider trading. He's basically– he probably
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: knew that they weren't going to go through.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: Right, but he says that.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: But he says that on TV, saying, oh, no, I
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: think they're going to side with the American people. Allegedly. Allegedly, yes. Well, yeah.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I used that word enough today.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: So if, yeah. But there's another connection with him and 9-11.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: So he was profiting off of Trump's tariffs.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Right. So then allegedly he would have known then that
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court was going to do that.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: And then so he's trading. So he basically is creating
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: buzz in one direction, but then he's trading in the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: opposite direction.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: Because if he felt that they were going to vote
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: in favor of President Trump, why would he be executing
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: the trades on the opposite side? It doesn't make sense.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: That's classic insider trading.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: That's the thing about so many people look at the
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: leaky faucet and they're like, who's causing this leaky faucet?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: But what they don't realize is the true player is the,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: or the people that bought the stream up.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: Up from the city, up from the water department. And
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: they're doing things there that eventually years later will cause
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: the leaky faucet. And they've set up all these businesses
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: and things along the way. Like some people don't realize
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: the strategy. Sometimes it goes into things, right? Absolutely.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: Well, he is the, so there's, there's some great, we
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: got to get into it because he is the CEO
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: of Cantor Fitzgerald, which is, They were the tenant of,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: I think, floor 105 to 107 of the World Trade
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: Center building. And he did not go to work that
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: day because his wife, Trump said this last week, there's
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: a clip of him saying, hey, your wife begged you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: not to go to work that day. You never missed
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: a day of work in 20 years. Aren't you glad
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: that you didn't go to work that day? So he,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: like most of his employees, died. And then he did
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: this whole thing where, I don't know if you want
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: to play this clip, or I could just talk through
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 3: some of the stuff, where he basically took all the insurance,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: the company was paid insurance money, From the airlines. And
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: then he pocketed most of that money instead of giving
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: it to the employees. Yes. Really? Then you get past. Okay.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: So it's like, did he know something like what was
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: going on? So play, play this clip though. The clip
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: that I sent, um, Zach, there's a lady like how
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: he got his home right next to Epstein. It's insane.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: Tell me what are the odds that the notary to
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: the deed of what was both Epstein and Howard Ludnick's
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: property at 11 East 71st street, because yes. Epstein owned
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: that property before Letnick owned that property. It was transferred
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: to Epstein for just $ 10 in 1992. Epstein passed the
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 5: deed to a Comet Trust in 1996, again, for just $ 10,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 5: of which a Guido Goldman was a trustee, the son
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: of one of the founders of the World Jewish Congress.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 5: And then it was passed to Letnick in 1996 for, again,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: just $ 10. Who notarized the deed transferring this property from
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein to the Comet Trust in 1996? A Gary Pollard.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: A Gary Pollard just so happened to be in the
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: perfect spot at the perfect time to record the perfect
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: shot of the South Tower collapsing on September 11th, 2001.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: Is it just a weird coincidence that Jeffrey Epstein and
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: Howard Letnick owned 911 East 71st Street?
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, kudos to her. She's like digging up like
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: fucking documents.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's petting a cat too at the same time,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: which heavily reminds you of the person from Inspector Gadget.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Remember that guy?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: I've never seen Inspector Gadget.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Was it Inspector Gadget, the bad guy or the person
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: who was like the dark guy who'd always be petting
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: the cat? Dr.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Claw.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what was she saying there, executives, to sum
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: it up?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: I think what she's insinuating there is that there's some
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: kind of foreknowledge of 9-11, that these things that, how
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: did Lutnick even get this property in the first place
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: right next to Jeffrey Epstein? There's some kind of collusive
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: action taking place here. There's something shady happening behind the scenes. Obviously,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: all coincidences, as she's saying.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: But, it should be examined a little bit further, especially
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: with the context that if you look, somebody like did
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: timestamps and all the emails that were in the Epstein files,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: and there's like a huge chunk that's like missing between
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: 1999 and 2001 that's like all not there. So it's like,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: was something, and Ghislaine Maxwell's also asked to be on
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: the 9-11 Shadow Commission. Like, why was she asked to
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: be on the 9-11 Shadow Commission? Like, did she know
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: some stuff? Like, she was reached out to. She said no.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: So like, it seemed like they knew. It's like, yeah,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: here it is.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: This is from at Chris Martinson. Um, it's just a
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: complete coincidence that the DOJ has completely withheld all the
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein documents immediately before, during, and after 9-11. Is that right?
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: The gap. 25,000 missing serial numbers. I mean, how much
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: do you believe, we talked about this a little bit earlier,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: like that some things feel like theater, right? It almost
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: feels like, like you hear all these things that like the, uh, the,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: the Simpsons and they predicted this and every week now
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: it's like, it was written here and it, look at this.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that? And then it starts to like,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: what do you believe about that? Like how much of the,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: like stuff like this, like they lived at nine and
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: 11 next door. Do you think any of that's real
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: or we're all just reading into this stuff? Have you
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: seen enough things where you're like, there could be something here?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: So I think some of it is coincidence, but some
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: of it is like predictive programming and that they want.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: So for example, the Top Gun example, I would say
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: is they want the American public comfortable with this kind
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: of attack, this style of attack. It's gonna be awesome.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: Look how great the fighter jet pilots are going in,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: bombing the uranium site, pulling out, great stunt.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: So that Top Gun was in Iran. That's where that happened.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: It was a uranium site in Iran. So you're saying
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: let's put it in a movie before we do it
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: so that it'll feel more comfortable to people.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly. So some of that stuff I think is predictive
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: programming where they do that. Some of the stuff is coincidence.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: And then some of the stuff I think is like
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: full psyop stuff where they try to get you distracted
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: with another issue so they can maybe brush this real stuff.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: Cause I do believe the Epstein stuff is real stuff.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: Like this is like, there's real crimes taking place behind
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: the scenes. Like people should be investigated, all that stuff.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: So I'll give you an example, which may be controversial,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: maybe not, but like, for example, I think the ice
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: riots are a little bit of a psyop.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Like that stuff is, I don't know how many, you know,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: how much you've talked about that, but like, I think
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: it's purposely created to be a divisive issue.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the stuff of the Portland, like
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: in the park, there's Antifa in the park riots and stuff.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: And you had Renaissance fair people battling Bernie Sanders activists
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: and some of that shit. And it was like, what
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the hell is even, you know, a Star Wars versus.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Game of Thrones character someone we could like what is
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: even happening here I could see some of that because
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: there was there's videos of them like finding a guy
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: who like started up like put like a Molotov cocktail
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: on the street or something and they follow him like
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: who are you know interviewing and the guys like obviously
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: was just stopping by to do this not really involved
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: I could I think there's more of that that happens
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: than we even know right I think a lot of
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: the videos you see like oh look at this this
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: seems real but you don't realize somebody could stage that
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: put the video out or it could be AI and
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: you don't even know Right.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: And they particularly pick this issue where there's like no
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna be any agreement because immigration is one
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: of those issues like abortion is really not a right answer.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: It's like based on your morality, like some, you know,
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: like some countries are great, like Japan's great because they're
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: all Japanese. They have their own customs and cultures really
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: cool or Scotland or whatever. America just happens to be
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: like kind of a melting pot. That's kind of what
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: we're known for. But there's no like right answer to
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 3: the amount of immigration you should have. So they pick
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: this issue that nobody can really come together on. And
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: then they send people on the streets. Cause I'm like thinking,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: why aren't you sending people on the streets for like Epstein?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: Why aren't you sending people on the streets for like
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: spraying pesticides in all our food? Why is that? Cause
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: that's a unifying issue. People will actually demand something out
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: of it. This is like, there's no answer. Cause you
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: could look at the same video. This happened with the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: Rene Good and the other guy, Alex Preddy, right? People
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: look in the same video. And they're seeing different things.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, perfect. Let's amplify this more. Let's
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: send more people out there. And now also they create–
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: because I think there's something weird happening here where I
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: don't think Trump is that serious about deporting people because
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: there's like a business interest in like keeping them here
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: because you have like depressed wages. A lot of them
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: work in hospitality. A lot of them work in farm.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: And Trump said, oh, those are exempt. I'm like, well,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: those are– where are all the– Those are where a
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: lot of illegal immigrants are at. So why aren't you
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: doing that? Well, because your donors don't want you to
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: do that. So then you create this nice show for people,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: a show of force on the streets. I think the
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: MAGA people really love the ICE agents going out there
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: and having that presence. It gets them fired up. And
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: then on the other side, then the Democrats are sending
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: their people on the streets. And all of a sudden,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: both sides have created sort of a pretense to like,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: now we've got to surveil people. We've got to go
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: to the police state. And so you get the best
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: of everything you get. You still get the indentured slavery
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: for the, for the corporations. Now you have chaos in
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: the streets. So then you could bring about like the
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: Palantir mass surveillance. That's what's heading.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's the big thing I say.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: For me, I believe that even, even like, well, it's
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: also funny that one political party lets a ton of
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: people in the next, and they're the bad guys. And
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: then the next political party is, uh, um, they're the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: ones who are trying to get everybody out and they're the,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: they're the bad guys, right? It's like, don't you see
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: that though? We're just watching the show. Like, don't you
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: realize that at a certain point you're just watching.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I've been trying to get people to wake up.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: I've been shit on for the ice thing. Cause I have,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: cause my audience is like pretty split. Cause I, a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: lot of times I focus just on corruption and just,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: you know, this guy is doing something bad. I don't
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: really do like party politics and stuff like that. So
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: I have people on both sides, depending on the issue.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: Cause I went hard at the COVID issue, which is
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: like a right leaning issue, right? Against the vaccines. I'm
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: like these pharmaceutical companies, very corrupt. And that's a right
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: leaning issue. But then there's other issues that like, People
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: side with more on the left, which is like the
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: pro-Palestine stuff, anti-Israel. That's like more of a left issue.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: And so then whenever I comment on something that's like really,
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: I think, divisive, like I get hate on both sides.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: I've been called like a communist and also like a libtard.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: to right-wing Nazi. But if you're getting.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: Called both things, you're probably doing a good job.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: I've been called everything, like a CCP spy, which obviously
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: I look like one.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I've been called f * * * it a couple
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: times and wigger.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I think once you're in the game long enough,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: it's not possible to not be hated by somebody.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like Yeah, then you're probably doing
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: something right, I feel like, you know? And you just
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: have to do your best. It's like, you don't know
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: what the fuck you're doing.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: But neither do those guys that are wearing the suits
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: and everything. That's my thing. It's like, those guys don't
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: know what the fuck they're doing either. They just look
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: like they know what they're doing. And I'm very open.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, I'm just giving you as I see. Like,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: I'm reading one chapter ahead. My job is to, like,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: inform you of what I found, and then you can
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: take that for what it's worth. I mean, that's like,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: I think that's tied back to what we talked about
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: in the beginning. It's like, that's the role of a teacher.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: It's like, I'm trying to just give you information, and
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: then hopefully that inspires you to do something that you
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: want to do, right? A teacher's not supposed to say, hey,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: you need to become X, Y, and Z in your life.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: It's to give you information to then sort of let
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: you then go out there and explore the world. Like
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: inspire you to do something else.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I get from your content. It's just like,
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: you know, when I see stuff, it's like, that's interesting,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: you know, or that, hmm, that's curious, you know? I
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: think I just get a curiosity about it. And this
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: is kind of one of the first times where media
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: has been open to be able to kind of say
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: what they want. Like media has been vastly kind of
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: controlled by a couple of corporations over the past, what,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: 50 years, 100 years maybe?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you're going to see a co-op. They're going
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: to try to co-op people like myself. I'm already seeing
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: it happen, right? Because now they can get people to
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: say exactly what they've said in mainstream media, but then
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: through the lens of like a TikToker who's just wearing
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: regular clothes. So you're going to see that battle, like
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: an information warfare will continue. And that's why for me,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: I've always stayed very, very diligent about making sure that
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: I'm not taking money for anybody that I don't want to,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: you know, like I'm basically fully independent. I want to
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: say that's why I got in the game. Like I
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: could have made a lot more money doing consulting work.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: That was easy, you know, straightforward, but here, you know,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just hopefully here on like more of like a
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: spiritual mission, you know? Yeah.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I think, I mean, you want to live like if, if,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: if earth exists and we're all going to live here
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: and America was this thing that you believe in or
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: that you knew your grandparents believe in, a lot of
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: people are like, you know, I'm trying to believe in
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: what America stands for the best parts of it, the
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: most moral parts of it, or that being a human
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: stands for, because like, you know, I had a family
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: member that died for these goals, right? A family member that,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: you know, who sacrificed their life to work here in
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: this country under these rules so that I could go
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: to school in a place that was, you know, free Democrat.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, I think people just want to
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: have a life. They want to have a chance to
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: live and their children to do so. And if you
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: start to think that there's all these dark controlling forces
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: out there, which mostly are probably elites and people that
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: are like extreme capitalists or power hungry, that's very scary.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: And you start to realize, oh, there is a battle
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: of good and evil at a certain point. Absolutely. And
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: that we're in that maybe. Sometimes you don't want to
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: think like, hey, maybe I'm a character in something. But
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: maybe you are. Maybe this is a battle of good
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: and evil and you– Or you were supposed to have
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: a role in it. Not, you know, you and everybody,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, um, sometimes we sit at home,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: we're like, man, I wish I'd have been picked to
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: be like a hero or something. And it's like, maybe
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: you got to fucking tap yourself on the shoulder. You
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Because I do feel like life
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: is a bad, I do feel like there's, there's good
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: and evil in the world right now. And, um, I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: don't know how it plays out. but it feels scary
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: and it feels alarming. And I just feel like a
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: lot of people feel that.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree with you. And I
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: would just, you know, to kind of spin it on
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: a positive note, there's a lot of times through history,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're living through like the worst of
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: times by any stretch of the imagination. I think it
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: could feel that way sometimes with maybe social media and
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: things like that.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: Right, but I think there, even in dark times, like
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: people really struggling out there, I think there definitely can
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: be happiness found in dark times.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dark chocolate. Look at that, you know what
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: I'm saying?
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There you go.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: So, well, I noticed for sure. It's like, if I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: need to, like, if I want to get my head
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: out of like some of the rabbit holes, cause your
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: algorithm will take you down some crazy, it'll take you
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: down some spots where it just repeats information. And you
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: can feel little bits of indoctrination coming in. You know,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: you feel the bug and you smell a little indoctrination smoke.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like, I got to quit doing this. Um,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: but if you separate yourself from your phone sometimes and any,
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: and any of the things that are kind of edgier
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: in the world or darker in the world, then things
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: get light again pretty quick, I feel like.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, yeah, you have to like
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: step away from this kind of stuff from time to time.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, your own body better than everybody else.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: If you think you need to turn it off, you
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 3: got to turn it off. And that's why I try
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: to do that with some of my content is like the,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: the natural path. If you start looking down these like
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: conspiracies to get darker and darker and darker. Right. And
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: some people are okay with that. For me, it's like,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: I still want to provide, videos for people where they
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: could still take action, right? Because some of those things, like, okay,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: there's some, like, dark lizard family that's running, you know,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: running the world. Like, there's nothing you could really do
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: about that. But if I give you information on, like, hey,
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: Amazon Ring cameras are, like, spying on your family through
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: this whole dog thing at the Super Bowl, like, you
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 3: should probably get rid of your Ring camera. That's something
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: that you can actually do. It's like, I don't want
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: to be a part of that Ring camera thing.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: So I'm like- Do you feel like they're doing that?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. They were connected to that company Flock,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: which is giving the footage to- Police information? Exactly, to
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: the police. And they thought the dog video would work.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: They honestly did, because I looked into it and they
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: thought the dog video was a good video. There was
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: this whole PR campaign pre-Superbowl, but then people saw that
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: weird thing in the Superbowl with all the lights going out.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: And it's like, whoa, hold on a second. And they
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: said 10 million dogs are lost a year. This is
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: going to find 300 dogs a year of like 300
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: out of 10 million dogs. I don't think that's a
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: worthy trade-off.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: Right. It seems like a scam.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: It seems like a scam. So then that is a
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: video is like that, that video went decently viral. And
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: I think that's something that people can, can gravitate to
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 3: because they can actually do something about that. Right. And
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: that's why I'm trying to play sort of a line
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: with my editorialization, which yeah, some videos are going to
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: be about more of the conspiracy digs, but some of
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: it's going to be things that you can do something about.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: It's like what banks are good, what banks are bad.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 3: You can choose your bank. You can't choose whether we're
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: going to bomb Iran tomorrow or not. That's something that's
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: totally out of your control. Right.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And keeping stuff that's in your control.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: What is a good bank, man?
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: What is a good bank? I mean, I don't. I mean,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: local banks. Honestly, like credit unions that are in your
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: local community, like small regional banks are probably the best
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: banks because they still they're tied to the community and
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: they're not some kind of giant conglomerate like JP Morgan
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: chase bank of America, that kind of thing. So that's
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: what I would look for in terms of like who
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: you should go with. There's some like new FinTech stuff.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: I'm making a video about this company named chime, which
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: has been sponsoring a lot of, um, content creators that
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: are like, you know, the, the, the, the ones that
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: are all about like giving money that they find some
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: homeless person. They're like, Oh, let me help you out
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: for the day. That kind of thing. Like really like
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: heartwarming content, but it's like sponsored by chime, which is like,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: Pretty nefarious. I don't have all the information quite yet
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: because I'm still starting to dig, but it's like, oh,
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: this seems like kind of a semi-scam that you're running here.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: But then you're advertising through all these good content creators
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: that are making heartwarming content. So it seems like that's
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: kind of. There's a little bit of susness to that.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's trying to rebrand themselves too.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: Well, it's new. It's a fintech. It's a new company.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: So that's something I'm still digging into. Allegedly, I'm not
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: insinuating that they've committed crimes or anything like that, but
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: I just think that people– those are things that people
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: should know. It's like, oh, because they could see that
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: video and like, oh, I should sign up for Chime
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: to do my banking. Right. But then they could be
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: taken advantage of because they're not under the regular– you know,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: FDIC protection and all the regular banking authorities because they're
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: outside of that.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: So that's the kind of stuff that it's like a
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: bit of a balance for me of digging into conspiracies.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: So I'm like a very much like a generalist in
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: that sense of like, maybe it's just like my brain,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: like ADD, ADHD kind of thing. I'm not diagnosed or
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: anything like that, but I see something like, oh yeah,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do that for a little bit. And
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: then I'm like, oh, I got to stay on this.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: But then something else has caught my eye. So that's
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a weakness of mine, but also
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: could be a strength in that I do videos about
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of different things. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think we got to have a gopher. You
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: got to have something that goes in there and digs
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: over here and like, you know, you choose on this
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: vegetable and then goes over there for a radish and
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: then goes underground and looks at the roots. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's, that's something we need more than ever.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: And it's, um, and it's interesting and, uh, and it's
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: just freelance. It's like, you know, you're trying your best
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: to work in freelance. 5149, that's your podcast. How often
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  Speaker 1: is it out? And do you still have, you have
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: a co host on it?
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, so I do a show called 5149. That's
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: when I do more of like the investigative digs on
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: my YouTube channel. Okay. And I also host a show
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: called the todayish podcast with my cohost, Danny love. And we,
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  Speaker 3: that's sort of like more of like a fun podcast
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: where we're just having conversations about like what went on
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: during the week. She's like much more of like a
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: 10 head than I am. So she's, you know, I'm
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: having a conversation. I'm like talking about Peter Thiel Palantir,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: you know, they're taking over, um, you know, surveillance. And
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: then she'd be like, I think Peter Thiel is a lizard. Right.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, okay, all right, cool. So then, so she, we,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: she gets a little bit more weird than I do,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 3: but it's like a fun dynamic of like, you're trying
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: to give you like important stuff, but like packaged in
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: more of like a fun and lighthearted way. Um, so
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 3: I also do that show called the today. So it's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: more of like a two hour live podcast that we
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: do every single week. And then if you want the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: digs that's on my channel, 51 49, James Lee, you
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: could also find me on Instagram still, as well as Facebook,
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  Speaker 3: RIP to the Tik TOK.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll get you back on there.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: Huh? No, not as of right now. I think they're
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 3: fully under the Israeli regime at the moment.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: You think so, huh?
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I know, yeah, a lot of our stuff got
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: shadow banned on there. It seems like we've had stuff
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: go down. But they can't ban you because you're so big, right?
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: Because me, I was, you know, I think I was
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: around 300,000 followers. So I was like, some of my
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: videos will be popping off into the millions, but I'm
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: not so big. It's like, oh- James Lee is, is deleted.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: Like there's going to be a huge outroar. Like if
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: you got deleted off of TikTok, there'd probably be a huge,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: huge backlash. So I'm in that perfect, like perfect place.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: Like let's get rid of this guy. Cause he has
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 3: enough influence. It's pissing us off, but he's not so
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: big that we have, they find other ways to deal with,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: I think bigger people. Like from, I heard this guy, um,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: guy Christensen, he goes by your favorite guy on TikTok.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: So they basically said they just demonetize him or they'll
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: do like weird shadow banning stuff where he still has
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: his account, but they limit the reach in other ways.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that happens, man. I think it
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: happens a lot. James Lee, thanks for coming in, man.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry we got caught up on time. I got
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: to get to the airport. So that's the reason why
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: we're kind of caught up on time.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for giving me a chance to speak. Yeah, dude.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: Speak the truth, things like that. Or my truth, at
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: the very least. Ultimately, I'm just trying to hopefully provide
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: a voice out there that people can maybe turn to.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe they don't like me, then you can go watch
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 3: something else. But at least provide that media alternative voice.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: to what's going on with the world, you know?
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've always been able to be curious. I mean,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: it would be wild if we couldn't be. And I
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: think more than ever, it's like, yeah, there's, yeah, people
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: are trying to figure things out and just want to
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: feel okay, you know? James Lee, thank you so much, man.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: Have a good one, brother.
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  Speaker 2: Cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share
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  Speaker 2: this peace of mind I found I can feel it
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  Speaker 2: in my bones