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Lunch with the Clydesdale with Special Guest Jeffrey Birchfield | Top 5 Tuesday (TV Shows) · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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What's going on, everybody?
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Welcome to Lunch with the Clydesdale.
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I'm so pumped, so honored,
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so jazzed up to have with
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me the one and only,
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he goes by a lot of names, Jay Birch,
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Papa Birch, actor, judge, teacher,
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Jeffrey Birchfield.
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So with me in the house, what's going on,
0:53
man?
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Oh, nothing much, man.
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It's my pleasure.
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Glad to be here.
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Yeah,
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so we're going to do Top Five Tuesday
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today.
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Today is television shows of all time.
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We're going to get in that
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into a little bit.
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Kenneth DeLapp says El Jefe.
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So we'll get into that in a little bit.
1:16
We're going to talk about
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some of the news in the space today.
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But I want to get to know
1:20
you a little bit better.
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I know you're a retired teacher.
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You just retired within the calendar,
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within the year.
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How's that first year off going for you?
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Uh, so far so good.
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It's, um, my summer was spent, um,
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watching my grandson for the,
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for the most part, he's, um, uh,
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nonverbal autistic.
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He's nine years old.
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So, uh, we had a,
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had a lot going on this summer, but it's,
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it's moving right along.
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I'm,
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had a million projects around our,
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we live in a house.
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It's a little over a hundred years old.
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And so I've had trees that
1:55
have fallen down that I've needed to cut.
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I've had windows replaced.
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And so the,
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the retirement while not teaching,
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I'm still as busy, busy as ever.
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And you,
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you moved to help take care of
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your grandson.
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I did.
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We already had a house in Hamilton, Texas,
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which is a small agrarian
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community in Central Texas,
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about a little less than
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twenty seven hundred people, I guess.
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And we were living in
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Pflugerville outside of Austin,
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which is a city or rural or
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not rural suburban city of
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about sixty thousand.
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Okay.
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So then at your new place, you have a shed,
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a tent.
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What do we call the workout space?
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And so that's Camp Pay Him.
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And so as you can see,
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we've got Pay Him Stuff On.
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I owe everything that I am
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as far as like athletic-wise stuff.
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as far as the last few years
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or several years since
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twenty nineteen to Josh Bridges.
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So just a little shout out to him.
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But I've built me a workout
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space in my backyard using, you know,
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one of those standard little tent things.
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And then I've just put all
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my equipment out there and
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that's where I get after it.
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So a while back, gosh,
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probably a couple years,
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I was interviewing Cooper Marsh,
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and you were in the chat,
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and he talked about how you
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would come to these train with Josh's,
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or are they called Pay the Man?
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They're Pay Him Camps is
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what they're called.
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And you would come,
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and you got to be really
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friendly with Josh and
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Cooper and all those guys.
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What was that experience like?
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It was, I mean...
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you couldn't find a more
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personable and helpful group of guys.
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I mean,
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it was a fairly intimate situation.
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I mean,
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there's usually about twenty five
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to twenty seven people that are there.
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And the ones that the one
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that I attended was in San
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Diego at Josh's house in
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the garage where he started
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all of his videoing and
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everything of his workouts.
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And so it was it was kind of
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iconic just to go work out there.
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But
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We also went to Cuape,
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which is a mountain there
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in San Diego where Josh
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used to run and do a lot of training.
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And so we got that
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opportunity to go and kind
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of do that with him and
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have some conversation.
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And so it was really an
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awesome experience.
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And, you know, the funny thing is Cooper,
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I started doing –
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pay him stuff for following
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Josh's programming around
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twenty eighteen.
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But I was also kind of doing
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some of his supplement
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stuff with X Endurance.
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Well,
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Cooper at the time worked for X
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Endurance and challenged me
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to do Karen after taking
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one of their products.
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And that's kind of how me
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and Cooper got acquainted.
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And it's funny,
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I was I was supposed to do Karen and then
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I'd wait a week and do it
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again to retest it.
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Well,
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it seemed like my programming started
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kind of following the
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schedule of how to build up
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to a better Karen.
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And so I asked people, I said,
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do you like Josh or something?
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And yeah, it just so happened that he did.
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And things just worked out.
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We've been,
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I would say that we've been
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friends for a while now.
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And then you've also,
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you also know Bethany
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Flores when she lived in Austin,
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I'm assuming.
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Yeah.
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First,
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first CrossFit athlete I ever worked
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with as far as like going
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and working out with.
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And so I hear a lot of
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stories about people who go
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to CrossFit for their first time and,
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you know, they may be scared that,
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you know, this or that will,
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imagine going to a Saturday
6:20
meetup where it's just kind of everybody,
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it's not a formal class,
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and Bethany is the one
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that's actually doing the
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workout and programming the
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workout for you to do,
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and so it's a little scary, but I mean,
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she kept, you know,
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she made us feel right at home,
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and I mean, it was awesome,
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and so I went several more times,
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and that's, that kind of got me
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into the box and actually a
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little more into the
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methodology than what I'd
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been in previous times.
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Yeah.
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Going to Christie O'Connell's gym.
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Uh,
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it was crazy because there's big events
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here in Columbus,
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like the Arnold fitness expo.
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And a lot of the CrossFit
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athletes would drop in and
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then they would drop into
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her gym because they knew her.
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And so it w you'd walk in on
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it on a day and there's
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just Madaris warming up or there's,
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you know, and you're just like,
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holy crap.
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Um,
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I gotta work out in front of these people,
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but they're just normal
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people at the end of the day.
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Right.
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Well, that's really cool.
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And I want to thank you so
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much for taking time out,
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jumping on the show with me.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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Corey.
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First, Kenneth says,
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I heard that the first rule
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of pay him camp is that you
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don't talk about pay him camp.
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Yeah.
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Well,
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I didn't tell you everything that
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happens at pay him camp.
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Yeah.
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I'm sure you're sworn to secrecy.
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Corey, sorry I'm late.
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It's snowing its ass off down here.
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Yeah, man, I saw that.
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Holy cow.
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Yeah,
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I just saw a boat post of Moss that
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does uplift.
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Yep.
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And he's like doing
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thrusters or something in the snow.
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And he lives up in Slidell,
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just north of New Orleans.
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yeah I lived in tallahassee
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florida for four years it
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snowed one time there and
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it shut the city down like
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just yeah there's not a
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plow in sight you know so
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it just shut everything
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down yeah mark lost that
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too I was trying to think
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of yeah mark's a great guy
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mark's a great guy um I
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think I think corey just
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sent me pictures of the snow in louisiana
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Holy moly.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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That is, that's crazy, man.
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And he lives over in Gonzalez, which is,
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is still kind of in Southern Louisiana.
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So that's a good one.
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This is a street view.
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Oh yeah.
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I heard that they shut down high tin,
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which is the main highway
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going across the Southern
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part of Louisiana.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, went right through Tallahassee.
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Yeah.
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That's how we would get over
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to New Orleans is I-ten.
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Crazy, but so, wow.
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Well, stay warm, man.
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It is just bitterly cold here.
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The feels like temperature
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is like negative ten right now.
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Just had to take my wife to
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PT this morning,
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and warming up the car took a long time.
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Oh, man, I bet.
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So she has doctor's
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appointment follow-up
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tomorrow and another PT on Thursday.
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So hopefully it starts to
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warm up a little bit.
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But she really needs to get
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those staples out tomorrow.
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So hopefully we can get there.
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Yeah, Scott,
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I don't know how y'all live up there.
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Yeah, I mean, it's my own fault.
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I moved to Florida.
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I lived there for four years.
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And it was so brutally hot down there,
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I couldn't take it.
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So, you know,
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it's either you're cooped up
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in the summer down there or
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you're cooped up in the winter.
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Yeah.
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True enough.
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Well,
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let's hit some news bites real quick
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and then we'll get into our top five.
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The rumors are true.
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Ricky Gerard is now a proven athlete.
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It was announced by proven yesterday.
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I hate it.
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I hate it with every piece
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of fabric in my being.
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I've said this a million
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times on this show.
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I'm friends with Justin Kotler.
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And I think what the chance
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that Justin took with him
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coming off the drug
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suspension and his
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performance has been elite
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ever since he's been with Justin.
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The only times he didn't do
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well is when he got hurt.
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So the reason for the move
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just doesn't make any sense to me.
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And it, I, I'm, I am loyal to a fault.
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So that, that like just kills me.
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So do you think his loyalty
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lies now more with the fact
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that he's with somebody
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who's from Australia who has been a,
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you know,
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a CrossFit champion for seven
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times rather than keeping
11:29
his loyalty with the guy
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that actually took a chance on him?
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Uh,
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that's what the way it looks on the
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outside.
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Doesn't it?
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Yeah.
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You know, it's funny.
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I knew a kid in high school one time.
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Sorry to kind of take away from that,
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but not to take away from
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it because it has to do with loyalty.
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And I knew a kid that had
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made a commitment to a
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college coming out of high school.
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And because of whatever reason,
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his dad had gone to this
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other university.
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He just dropped that one
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university who he had
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already committed to and
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went to the university.
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to the father's university, which I, to me,
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I'm like,
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if you give your word to go somewhere.
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And of course this was all
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before NIL and all that kind of stuff.
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Then you go where you're supposed to,
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you go where you say you're going to go.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And I don't even know if people know this.
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I think like Justin took on
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Benny Gerard as a coach,
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in addition to Ricky as an athlete.
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So like they did,
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they did a lot for that family.
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Justin traveled to Australia
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to be with him during Tori
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and did all that kind of stuff.
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And then just because your
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new training partners are
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proven now you've yeah,
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but it is what it is.
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I mean, that's his,
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his decision and that's his
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road road to go down.
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I am definitely not a fan at
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this point um but I'm sure
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he'll have others and he
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doesn't really care what I
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think at the end of the day
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well same I mean so uh last
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night we had a national championship game
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Ohio State with the victory.
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Two different times during that game,
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I was ready to go to bed.
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And as I went to go up the steps,
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Notre Dame scored.
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And I was like, oh, crap.
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Now I can't go to bed.
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They made it a little bit
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closer at the end.
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But at the end of the day,
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Ohio State was just way too much.
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Now I've got to live in a
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town with the national championship team.
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And that's what I've got to
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hear about for the next
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three hundred and sixty five days.
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And I'm sure on cloud nine,
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Judy Reed is a huge Buckeye fan.
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So I'm sure she's super happy.
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Amy,
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my cohost on the round table will be
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ecstatic as she is a graduate of OSU.
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Um, but yeah,
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that's what I'll have to live
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with for the next year.
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And, uh, there it is.
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Penn state just need to play better in the,
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in the final four.
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I'm wearing the burnt orange,
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even though it says good dudes, I can,
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UT needed to play just – or
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University of Texas needed
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to play just a little bit better.
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Maybe we got there,
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but Ohio put a shellacking on us.
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What's cool to me is over
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the weekend with the NFL
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games and that game,
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I was four and one on outright winners,
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and with the line, I was three and two.
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So not a bad record for the weekend.
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I didn't place a bet on any of them.
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Just picked them on the show
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to see how I do.
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But yeah,
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I'll take four and one and three
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and two over the weekend on my picks.
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Yeah.
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It would be nice if I had
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some money with that, but no.
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And then the biggest news in
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my household was the Chicago Bears-
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uncharacteristically got
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aggressive and went after
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the coach that they wanted
15:16
as the new head coach laid
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down the money and
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hopefully this is a sign of
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change as ben johnson is
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was named the new head
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coach of the chicago bears
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uh he's in chicago today
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signing a contract and uh
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it looks like dennis allen
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will be his defensive
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coordinator which excites me a lot
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So he has an experienced
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defensive coordinator to
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come with him since this is
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his first foray into head coaching.
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But that made me extremely
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happy yesterday.
15:47
And I think it's the start
15:48
of Caleb Williams'
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ascension into a much better quarterback.
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I don't know a lot about him.
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I mean, I know that, you know,
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with Detroit going so far
16:00
in the playoffs this year,
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he must have a lot to offer.
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Yeah.
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uh we're just glad dennis
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allen has gone from nola
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well you have to admit
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before he was the head
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coach he was a really good
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defensive coordinator we
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didn't hire miss head coach
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we're bringing him in as
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defensive coordinator so
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we're we're cool with that
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now go ahead sorry jay rich go ahead
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Oh, I forgot what I was going to say.
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It's all right.
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Now Corey's just trying to pick a fight.
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Kale Williams is, was,
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and will be highly overrated.
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We may not be friends anymore now.
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Oh, I remember what I was going to say.
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As far as like Detroit goes, of course,
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their head coach, Dan Campbell,
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he grew up not but about, oh,
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here in, in Hamilton.
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So even though I'm a Dallas heart,
17:11
you know,
17:11
through and through kind of fan
17:13
because Dan played for the
17:14
Cowboys and because he's a
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Texan had to root for Detroit this year.
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So.
17:20
I wanted them to win this
17:23
year because they've never
17:25
been to the Superbowl.
17:25
I just wanted somebody new.
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So, yeah, that was,
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that was not what I was
17:29
looking for the other night when they,
17:32
when they lost.
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So.
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Last thing I'm going to say,
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and we're going to talk
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about this much more on the
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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
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If you did not see the Rich
17:41
Froning podcast yesterday,
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they talk about the Mayhem Classic a lot.
17:47
And in there, there's kind of a leak,
17:51
and it's been out on Dense
17:52
Updates and Barbell Spin
17:55
and Hiller and everybody else,
17:57
but that there could be a
17:59
last chance qualifier this year.
18:02
there's like one spot left on both sides,
18:05
the men and the women,
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and that that will go to a
18:10
last chance qualifier.
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Carolyn has very strong
18:13
thoughts about the fact
18:15
that these camps know about
18:18
these things before the athletes do.
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And so I'm going to let her
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go off on Sunday night about that.
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Well, and two aren't,
18:30
don't they only have twenty
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male and twenty female spots
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that they're going to do
18:36
for the semifinal so that's
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where I'm confused I
18:43
thought it was eighteen in
18:46
person semis twelve open
18:51
twelve online I don't know
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what the numbers are now to
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get the last chance
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qualifier so that one has
18:58
to come from one of them
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so I just don't know which
19:02
one that is um yeah man I
19:12
have this dry spot in my
19:13
throat um larry young she
19:28
doesn't seem pleased about
19:30
anything going on this season.
19:33
I think it's a lot of change
19:35
and it's just hard to
19:37
understand for an athlete as to,
19:40
and it's hard to plan when
19:42
there's all these last minute changes.
19:46
And for someone who's trying
19:48
to make it back to the games,
19:49
that's really frustrating.
19:53
Uh,
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but I'll let her speak for herself
19:54
because she does that very well.
20:00
So let's get into the top five.
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Top five Tuesday.
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Top TV shows of all time.
20:06
We'll count them down from five to one.
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And then afterwards,
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if you have any honorable mentions,
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we'll talk about that.
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And I always let the guests go first.
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So these could not be sitcoms.
20:18
These could not be half-hour shows.
20:20
These were either series or miniseries.
20:26
And we'll leave it at that.
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All right.
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I'll start off with Jay Birch.
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Let's go.
20:31
All right.
20:33
So my number five was a show
20:35
called Mind Hunters.
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So I'm not for sure if
20:40
you're familiar with it,
20:41
but it was a show that... What's that?
20:47
My wife would probably have
20:48
that in her top five.
20:50
And so it wasn't very long lasting,
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but it took a realistic
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look at how the...
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profiling and the FBI kind
21:01
of started looking at
21:02
serial killers and stuff like that.
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I, and me personally,
21:05
I thought the acting was great.
21:07
I mean, it wasn't real slow, you know,
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and it's, and it's development of story.
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And I mean,
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I thought it was a really good show.
21:14
Um, and that it takes place in Pittsburgh,
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right?
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Yeah, I believe so.
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Yeah.
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See, we,
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we both grew up just North of Pittsburgh,
21:24
so that she probably has an
21:26
affinity for it with that
21:28
in addition to it.
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So,
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uh kenneth says uh first
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season was great second
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season was good you know a
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lot of the shows that I had
21:41
in my mind that I did not
21:43
put on my list I loved like
21:46
the beginning of and it at
21:48
some point jumped the shark
21:49
and that ruined it for me
21:51
like designated survivor is
21:54
a great example
21:56
Season one into two was amazing,
22:01
but season three was so bad.
22:03
It left a horrible taste in
22:05
my mouth and would have removed it.
22:08
And I hope that's not on your list,
22:10
but okay.
22:14
So my number five is an old
22:15
show from the eighties.
22:17
Uh, it's a show called wise guy.
22:19
Yeah.
22:21
Yeah.
22:22
And what it was, was there was,
22:26
for lack of a better term,
22:27
a kid named Vinnie
22:28
Terranova who grew up in
22:31
New Jersey and was a law
22:36
enforcement officer that
22:37
they made become kind of
22:40
like a street thug.
22:42
And he built up a reputation,
22:44
even went to jail to set
22:46
himself up so that he could
22:48
go undercover and infiltrate the mob.
22:52
And didn't he have a brother?
22:54
His brother was a priest.
22:56
Okay, yeah.
22:58
Yeah,
22:58
which complicated things a little bit.
23:01
Right, yeah.
23:02
Because he couldn't even
23:03
tell his family that he was
23:06
going undercover because he
23:08
really lived this life to
23:10
make it believable when he
23:13
got pulled into the mob.
23:15
And what was,
23:15
I think it was on for like
23:17
five seasons and each
23:18
season was its own storyline.
23:20
Mm-hmm.
23:22
So you'd finish the season
23:24
and then he'd be off to like the next,
23:27
the next thing.
23:29
One of my favorite shows of all time.
23:31
And I've even watched it in
23:32
the last few years and it still holds up,
23:35
which you cannot say for every AD show.
23:40
But it still holds up today
23:42
and it's really good.
23:45
Yeah.
23:45
It's, you know, it's,
23:46
that's whenever I made my list,
23:48
I kind of looked at things that,
23:50
You know,
23:50
would I go back and rewatch them now?
23:53
And whenever I watch them,
23:55
does does the cinematography,
23:57
does the action,
23:58
is everything kind of still
23:59
hold up or does it look cheesy?
24:02
You know,
24:03
and so that's wise guys probably
24:06
the same.
24:07
same way what helps it is
24:09
it's not really an action
24:11
show it's it's a
24:11
character-driven show right
24:14
and so that helps like the
24:15
older show stand up because
24:17
you're not relying on
24:18
special effects or anything
24:20
like that there's some
24:21
shootouts and stuff that
24:23
probably could be done
24:24
better today but most for
24:26
the most part it is a
24:27
character-driven show so
24:31
one of the things you're
24:31
going to find is probably
24:32
with my list it's
24:34
somewhat in the forensic detective,
24:40
you know, murder mystery kind of vein.
24:43
And so my number four pick
24:45
is True Detective.
24:49
HBO series.
24:53
Or was there one in particular?
24:56
Season one, I really liked.
25:00
That's the Harrelson.
25:02
That's the Harrelson.
25:03
Yeah.
25:07
The one with Colin Farrell,
25:10
it was kind of slow.
25:11
I didn't really like that one.
25:13
And then this last season,
25:15
the one that was in Alaska.
25:20
Yeah.
25:22
I like that one.
25:23
Okay.
25:26
Those are weird, man.
25:29
They're really good.
25:33
But yeah,
25:33
I could see why that would make
25:34
it for some people.
25:35
But I think that like even nationally,
25:42
it's split.
25:43
Like whether you either love
25:44
it or you hate it.
25:47
But Kenneth says my top
25:48
season in all of TV is True
25:51
Detective season one.
25:53
That one was insane.
25:55
The Woody Harrelson,
25:56
Matthew McConaughey one.
25:58
Man, that was so good.
26:03
Absolutely.
26:06
Yeah.
26:08
Now,
26:09
if you want to know what my other
26:10
number four picked,
26:11
it was probably more series
26:13
than really kind of like
26:15
those little vignettes.
26:17
It would have been Mad Men.
26:19
okay I never dove down the
26:21
madman path um but I've
26:24
heard it's exceptional it
26:26
was it was really good up
26:29
and up until the last few
26:31
seasons I guess after you
26:34
kind of find out that don
26:35
draper is like not don
26:37
draper anymore it gets kind
26:39
of kind of weird but okay but yeah
26:46
My number four is an Apple
26:49
TV series called Ted Lasso.
26:52
Okay.
26:56
I've watched it three times
26:57
the whole way through.
27:02
It is one of the most endearing,
27:04
character-driven shows ever.
27:07
And I've talked a lot about
27:08
the show Shrinking,
27:10
which I don't think is old
27:11
enough to put on this yet
27:12
because it hasn't stood the test of time.
27:14
But it's the same writers
27:17
from Ted Lasso to do Shrinking.
27:24
And so Ted Lasso is number four.
27:28
I'm actually surprised.
27:29
I thought it would be higher, but.
27:32
It's not.
27:32
So it falls in at number four,
27:35
Jason Sudeikis.
27:37
Amazing show.
27:38
If you have not seen it, like you,
27:42
you haven't watched it.
27:45
Oh, it's so good.
27:47
It's all about an American football,
27:50
American football coach
27:51
going to England to coach a soccer team.
27:55
Okay.
27:55
And he doesn't even know the rules,
27:58
but he's a leader of men.
28:00
Right.
28:00
So they hire them in to try to,
28:02
to get them to change things.
28:07
All right.
28:08
Yeah.
28:08
I definitely need to put that on my list.
28:12
So good.
28:15
All right.
28:16
So number three is the center for me.
28:23
Another weird one.
28:24
I know.
28:25
but it does kind of keep
28:26
with the same cause you've
28:27
got Jeff Daniels kind of
28:28
playing that same character throughout,
28:31
but, um, the,
28:34
the first season I really liked and well,
28:38
actually all the seasons I
28:39
thought flowed well in it.
28:44
I've, I've never seen it.
28:45
Um, I love Jeff Daniels.
28:50
Uh, it, it's a,
28:52
it's a murder mystery kind of thing.
28:53
It kind of, you know, it starts out and,
28:55
You know,
28:56
you think it's one person and
28:57
then he come to find out
28:59
it's somebody else.
29:01
I think it was produced by.
29:06
Who's Justin Timberlake's wife.
29:09
Okay.
29:12
That is Blake Lively.
29:14
No, no, no, it's not.
29:19
Shoot.
29:20
I know.
29:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:24
uh, Jessica, um, Jessica Beal.
29:28
That's it.
29:29
There we go.
29:29
Yeah.
29:32
She produced it and it does
29:33
an excellent job.
29:34
I mean,
29:35
I think she directs a little bit in
29:36
it some,
29:37
but just a well done kind of
29:40
murder mystery series in my opinion.
29:46
That's awesome.
29:47
I'll have to check it out.
29:47
Cause I love Jeff Daniels.
29:49
Yeah.
29:50
Um,
29:57
Not Alba.
29:59
Sarah.
30:01
Could be Jessica Rabbit, Corey.
30:04
There you go.
30:07
My number three is also a mob show.
30:14
Some people probably have it
30:15
higher on the list than number three.
30:18
My number three is The Sopranos.
30:26
I really...
30:28
The first couple seasons
30:30
with the mother were some
30:32
of the best TV ever on.
30:35
When the mother dies,
30:36
I think it dips a little
30:39
bit and it takes away the
30:41
psychiatrist piece of it.
30:45
But still great television.
30:48
But the first two seasons, amazing.
30:55
I'm going to have to agree with you, Scott,
30:57
on all points.
31:00
all pieces of that because I
31:01
did put the Sopranos at number two.
31:05
That was my number two pick.
31:08
Okay.
31:09
And all for the same reasons that I just,
31:13
you know, it's the only,
31:14
the worst part about that
31:15
entire series is the last scene.
31:19
Oh,
31:19
and I've watched documentaries about
31:21
David Chase and, and kind of, you know,
31:24
what he was going with there.
31:26
And, you know, basically he just,
31:30
this is how it's going to end.
31:31
And that's the way it was.
31:33
There was no, there's no backstory to it.
31:36
It's just,
31:36
that's the way you wanted to end it.
31:39
What I've heard.
31:41
It's up to you how you want it to end.
31:44
Right.
31:44
How you want it, how you interpret that.
31:50
I did see something with
31:51
Steve Perry from journey
31:53
saying that he did not want
31:55
to have a family die to his song.
32:01
I can see that.
32:02
Uh, Kenneth asks, uh,
32:09
you guys watched a prequel
32:10
movie that came out in the
32:11
last few years.
32:12
I did.
32:14
I'm not a fan.
32:16
No, I didn't.
32:17
I didn't think it was very well done.
32:19
Yeah.
32:20
You don't even get to the
32:21
characters as the Sopranos
32:22
to the last five minutes.
32:24
Right.
32:27
And I mean,
32:27
James Gandolfini son did an okay job.
32:31
in it.
32:31
But I mean, as far as the show itself,
32:35
I wasn't really impressed.
32:38
Yeah.
32:40
Nowhere near as good as the show.
32:44
So my number two, uh, needs a little, uh,
32:51
So you asked me a long time
32:53
ago when I was talking
32:54
about Taylor Sheridan,
32:57
if I liked him or the guy
32:58
who did Sons of Anarchy and the Mayans.
33:02
Okay.
33:05
My true crush in this
33:09
endeavor is... Kurt Sutter
33:10
is the other guy.
33:11
Kurt Sutter?
33:12
Well, my crush is Aaron Sorkin.
33:14
Okay.
33:17
So Aaron Sorkin did four television shows.
33:21
And he did two movies early in his career.
33:24
Now he's done some other movies since.
33:27
But his first two movies
33:28
were A Few Good Men and The
33:30
American President.
33:31
And then he did shows The Sports Night,
33:34
West Wing,
33:35
Studio Sixty on the Sunset Strip,
33:37
and Newsroom.
33:41
Those four Aaron Sorkin shows...
33:44
would be in my top five I
33:46
actually binged I start
33:48
from sports night and go to
33:49
newsroom a couple times in
33:51
my life and I do it every
33:53
couple years um so number
33:56
two I had to pick one to
33:58
represent the whole kit and
34:00
caboodle uh and so I picked
34:02
west wing it was the
34:05
longest running series
34:07
And what I loved about the
34:09
show is each show was
34:12
independent of the other,
34:13
other than like a little
34:15
string to kind of get you
34:16
from place to place.
34:18
And I work in government and
34:21
they were inept that cast.
34:23
They,
34:24
they never got anything accomplished
34:26
while he was in office.
34:29
They would run into hurdle
34:30
after hurdle after hurdle
34:31
and try to overcome them.
34:33
And it,
34:33
I felt like it was more realistic than,
34:36
than a government that
34:38
actually would get stuff
34:39
done if that makes sense
34:43
right yeah and so uh I'm
34:46
I'm going with west wing as
34:48
my number two awesome I can
34:52
I can see that yeah aaron's
34:54
working definitely good tv
34:59
Well,
34:59
my number one is a bit of a sentiment.
35:02
Jody Lynn has never seen The Sopranos,
35:05
has never seen West Wing.
35:08
I know.
35:10
She's so sheltered.
35:11
I know.
35:14
Upstate New York, man,
35:15
they just don't get into that stuff.
35:17
No,
35:17
they're all out looking at the leaves
35:19
changing.
35:20
I don't know what's going on up there.
35:22
Building cabinets.
35:24
Yeah, building cabinets,
35:26
putting in new kitchens.
35:28
Building cabins.
35:29
Yeah.
35:32
All right.
35:33
So number one.
35:35
So my number one pick is a
35:37
show from the eighties.
35:41
I think it's probably one of
35:42
the most nostalgic and one
35:44
of the movies that are
35:46
series that I probably play
35:47
more than any other.
35:51
I know it almost word for word,
35:53
as far as the script goes,
35:55
I've seen it so many times.
35:56
And that's Lonesome Dove.
36:01
Being a young man growing up on a ranch,
36:05
having that is kind of, you know,
36:09
in my past.
36:11
Also, I have a cousin who,
36:14
he's a second cousin who's
36:16
a Western author.
36:17
His name's Elmer Kelton.
36:20
He kind of, you know,
36:23
put me onto that genre of
36:25
of a Western as well, which is more, um,
36:30
kind of that true epic sense of,
36:33
of a Western.
36:35
And, um, I,
36:36
I just think it's probably one
36:37
of the best written shows ever.
36:43
So I've seen it, but I will tell you,
36:47
I have a natural distaste for Westerns.
36:52
that's fine it's because my
36:56
mom watched every western
36:59
known to man yeah like I've
37:01
seen the sackets and I've
37:03
seen lonesome dove and I've
37:05
seen um every episode of
37:08
bonanza and I've seen like
37:10
she watched all of those
37:11
gun smoke I've seen every
37:13
episode of gun smoke
37:15
So I was so inundated with
37:18
it that when I got to choose my own shows,
37:22
it was not that.
37:23
I totally understand.
37:28
Jody says, never saw that either.
37:31
And she says, I'm in Connecticut, Scott.
37:34
Upstate New York, Connecticut,
37:35
Rhode Island, Vermont,
37:37
that's all the same.
37:39
It's all where the leaves
37:40
are pretty and you get good ice cream,
37:43
right?
37:44
One of those wee little states.
37:45
Those small ones, you know.
37:47
Yeah.
37:51
I'm just kidding.
37:52
Connecticut's awesome.
37:53
I always thought I'd love to go up there.
37:58
My number one,
38:00
because my first love is crime.
38:04
Crime drama.
38:07
And you can tell by my mob stuff.
38:12
and the the the show that
38:14
did it better than anybody
38:16
else was nypd blue okay
38:21
yeah I thought I actually
38:22
thought about that one
38:25
because I love that show um
38:28
andy sipowitz uh he would
38:33
like that that show
38:35
when you see the stresses of
38:37
what being a cop every day
38:39
put on these men and the
38:41
struggles they went through
38:42
because of it.
38:44
And they depicted it in a
38:46
real sense for the first
38:47
time before that it was
38:50
dragnets and at twelves and,
38:54
and everything was rosy and,
38:56
and peachy for cops.
38:58
And,
38:58
and this was like the first time it got,
39:01
it got gritty and,
39:03
For a cop.
39:04
Right.
39:04
And what they had to do.
39:06
And that sometimes you have
39:07
to take a telephone book
39:09
and just go upside a
39:11
criminal's head and to get
39:13
them to tell you what he
39:14
needs to tell you.
39:16
Right.
39:17
Yep.
39:18
So, um, I, I actually,
39:21
I forget what's on DVD.
39:24
I forget what the police
39:25
sergeant was in there.
39:26
Kind of a big burly bald headed guy.
39:29
But I remember one scene
39:31
where he just got so frustrated,
39:32
like snapped his chair to a
39:35
million little pieces.
39:37
Yeah, it's good.
39:38
It's good.
39:40
Yeah.
39:43
I'm glad there was no mention of friends.
39:45
Kenneth,
39:45
did you not listen out the top
39:47
where we said no sitcoms?
39:50
No sitcoms allowed in this list.
39:53
This was just like hour-long dramas.
40:00
I may have to do another one
40:01
with someone else where we
40:02
actually do sitcoms.
40:03
Yeah.
40:05
But this one was just, and you know, I'm,
40:11
and I, I, I,
40:13
I should have had breaking
40:14
bad on my list.
40:16
I don't know why I forgot it completely.
40:19
Cause Kenneth had it in there.
40:20
It would not, it would not be number one,
40:22
but it would be up there.
40:23
Wise guy would probably fall off.
40:26
And I might even put it above Sopranos.
40:31
I had breaking bad as a,
40:33
as another number two, but, um,
40:36
here's the thing about
40:37
breaking bad as a chemistry teacher.
40:39
If I had one comment,
40:41
I had a million comments about,
40:44
so Mr. Birchfield,
40:45
are you like Heisenberg?
40:46
Can you make meth?
40:50
That would get old real quick.
40:53
Yeah.
40:54
Yeah.
40:54
I would,
40:55
I would move breaking bad up to
40:56
number three.
40:58
Yeah.
40:59
I did have one honorable
41:00
mention in addition to the five I had,
41:03
and I would put better call
41:04
Saul pretty close to the top five,
41:06
maybe not in the top five.
41:10
Um,
41:10
but one honorable mention is Friday
41:13
night lights.
41:14
Okay.
41:15
I thought,
41:16
I thought that television
41:17
television series was
41:18
better than the movie.
41:20
And I thought that they did
41:21
a really good job, uh, depicting, uh,
41:26
family life and uh kids
41:29
problems in high school um
41:31
I thought they did a really
41:32
good job with that just
41:34
kind of around a football
41:35
team um but it was never
41:37
really about the football
41:39
team interesting factoid
41:41
they filmed that in the
41:43
same town I was teaching at
41:45
and some of the footage of
41:46
the football field was
41:47
actually the football field
41:48
of the school where I taught and
41:52
the Dylan football team or
41:54
would it have been like
41:55
some of the others?
41:58
Uh, yeah,
41:58
I guess it would have been Dylan.
41:59
I've been one with the P the
42:01
it's supposed to be the Permian.
42:03
Yeah.
42:05
Yeah.
42:07
Cause none of that was filmed in Odessa.
42:10
Uh, Jody Lynn,
42:10
I'll never go to a car wash
42:12
and not think of money laundering again.
42:19
Do you add an honorable mention too,
42:20
right?
42:21
Or even like an alternate list?
42:24
I had an alternate list.
42:27
And so my alternate list,
42:28
I'll just run through them right quick,
42:30
was number five, The Wire, number four,
42:33
Mad Men, three, Game of Thrones, two,
42:36
Breaking Bad, and then number one,
42:38
Sopranos.
42:38
Okay.
42:42
I've never seen Game of Thrones.
42:44
Oh.
42:45
I've tried.
42:47
I've tried.
42:48
But if you don't like that
42:50
kind of fantasy genre of stuff,
42:58
maybe hard to get into.
43:00
I put myself in moral
43:01
dilemma so many times.
43:03
It took me three watchings
43:05
to get into The Sopranos
43:08
before my morals would let
43:10
me get into The Sopranos.
43:13
Game of Thrones...
43:15
the first couple of episodes,
43:16
I could not get past the
43:17
first couple episodes.
43:18
I just, well, you know, you know, um,
43:22
outlander,
43:22
that's one of my wife's favorite shows.
43:25
I call it Scottish, whatever, but, um,
43:30
once you kind of get past that,
43:32
it really does have a good storyline too.
43:36
And it's kind of,
43:37
kind of interesting how they transvert,
43:40
you know,
43:40
traverse their way through history.
43:43
Well, no,
43:44
and I'm glad I got through
43:45
Sopranos to actually see it all through.
43:49
But sometimes I hit these
43:52
things in my head and I've
43:53
got to reconcile it before I can move on.
43:56
Yeah.
43:58
Kenneth says Lost was great for me.
44:00
That's another one that the
44:02
first three seasons were fantastic.
44:06
The last two seasons, meh.
44:09
And I think the last two
44:10
seasons ruined it for me.
44:13
to where I just couldn't.
44:17
It's a great show, but not top five.
44:25
No sitcoms is the only role.
44:27
That is correct, Corey.
44:34
Good thing you didn't have
44:36
me on this show on this topic.
44:38
I've never seen ninety
44:38
percent of these shows.
44:41
Yeah.
44:41
Well, Jody,
44:42
you could have made your own list,
44:43
and then we could see what
44:44
you are watching.
44:47
Right.
44:48
Right.
44:51
We'll get you on for something, Jody.
44:52
We just got to find the right topic.
44:58
I have been called a yuppie before,
45:00
but just not recently.
45:05
So...
45:07
with lonesome dove and the curly mustache.
45:11
And do you take some of your look from,
45:13
from that show?
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Or, um,
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I don't really take it from the show.
45:18
I take it from, you know, the,
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the culture that I kind of grew up in.
45:23
Okay.
45:25
Because where I live is a
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lot of ranches and stuff.
45:29
And my grandparents had an
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eight hundred acre ranch
45:32
here in Hamilton that I
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pretty much grew up on.
45:35
Um,
45:36
I used to ride rope a little bit,
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work cows all the time.
45:42
And before I became a teacher,
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Stephenville,
45:45
which is supposed to be the
45:46
cowboy capital of the world,
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is where I went to college.
45:50
But I used to do work with
45:54
cattle and stuff like that over there.
45:56
So it's just kind of part of my culture.
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So my last question is,
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have you seen Yellowstone?
46:07
Have I seen the show Yellowstone?
46:08
Yeah, I've seen all of it.
46:09
Okay.
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So you have Lonesome Dove as number one.
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Yellowstone didn't make your list.
46:20
Do you like the way
46:21
Yellowstone went with it or not?
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Because I'm so close to the
46:28
way that that world works.
46:33
It's kind of like Landman too,
46:35
because I've had family
46:36
that's worked in the oil field too.
46:40
It's one of those things
46:41
that I have to just kind of
46:43
shut off what I know and
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just look at it for entertainment.
46:47
Gotcha.
46:49
And so I would say that
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Yellowstone's good entertainment.
46:57
So is Lonesome Dove,
46:58
but it's just different to me.
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I put them in different boxes.
47:07
Okay, cool.
47:10
Kenneth says,
47:11
Jay Birch is basically ripped
47:12
from Yellowstone.
47:16
I've been compared to worse.
47:17
I'd take that, Jay Birch.
47:18
Yeah, yeah.
47:20
Corey going for his top five.
47:21
Doctor Who, Top Gear, Strike Back,
47:24
The Mandalorian, working on a fifth.
47:28
Man, you're into the sci-fi.
47:29
Yeah.
47:30
I'm all about The Mandalorian, too.
47:35
I love the Mandalorian.
47:37
I think I just naturally
47:38
like there's so many star
47:41
Wars fanatics in my family.
47:43
Like I don't, I'm,
47:44
I always say that I'm a
47:46
bigger Indiana Jones fan than star Wars.
47:48
And so I like push back on
47:51
the star Wars stuff sometimes,
47:53
but the Mandalorian was great.
47:55
Yeah.
47:59
Um, I've never seen Dr. Who.
48:03
I remember the old Doctor
48:05
Who that used to be on PBS.
48:12
Well, this was fun.
48:14
Yeah.
48:15
But it is time to get back to work.
48:17
Lunch hour is over.
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With that, guys,
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thank you so much for being here.
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Drop your top five shows into the comments,
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and we'll take a look at
48:29
those maybe throughout the week.
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I want to thank Jay Birch
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for being here again.
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What an awesome dude.
48:36
So good to get to know you better.
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And maybe we'll have you
48:39
back for another top five
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on another Tuesday.
48:41
You bet.
48:44
Thank you, brother.
48:45
All right, man.
48:45
With that,
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we'll see everybody next time on
48:48
Lunch with the Kiesdale.
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Bye, guys.