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Chase Burns debut day, Reds buyers/sellers? Superstars Elly & Abbott · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: I think there's a shot, and I think they this
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  Speaker 1: is the time that they want to go for it
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  Speaker 1: and get better. Now we'll see how much they're willing
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  Speaker 1: to pay.
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  Speaker 2: See ring Rose Grants from the Athletic. They covered the
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  Speaker 2: Reds joining us right now. Trent, good to see you,
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  Speaker 2: and hey, this is a big, big headline, especially with
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  Speaker 2: they're a currently out. Chase Burns is going to enter
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  Speaker 2: the show on Tuesday for the Reds. So let's dive
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  Speaker 2: into that right from the jump. Here, what do you know?
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  Speaker 2: We're you surprised about the timing and how much of
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  Speaker 2: an impact can this make in the rotation?
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, wasn't that surprised. You know, this is a team organization.
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  Speaker 1: Last year when Rhet Lauder had a chance to come
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  Speaker 1: up and they needed them, he came up. They needed
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  Speaker 1: somebody and they've proven that they're not scared of doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's exactly what they told Chase Burns last
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  Speaker 1: year when they drafted him and said, hey, we don't
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  Speaker 1: want you to shoot to throw the rest of this year,
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  Speaker 1: and he wasn't really excited about it and he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to pitch. But once Louder came up and they were
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  Speaker 1: good to their word, he's eased it his his worries
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  Speaker 1: and so then all he did was just go out
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  Speaker 1: and dominate. I mean, what is it eighty three strikeouts
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  Speaker 1: or eighty nine strikeouts to thirteen walks, and like, even
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  Speaker 1: if you dig deeper in that of those thirteen walks,
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  Speaker 1: four were in his first triple A start, and then
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  Speaker 1: the first six were in his first four starts, So
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  Speaker 1: he had three and all the other starts, which is
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  Speaker 1: when you're hitting one hundred and striking out that many batters,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Trent, I want to ask a question that last
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  Speaker 3: time I was on the show aj As And when
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  Speaker 3: you have a guy, you know, shooting through the minor
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  Speaker 3: leagues like Burns with that type of arm, and you
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  Speaker 3: have a guy like cag Leon with the ability to
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  Speaker 3: hit forty homers at the big le level, when you
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  Speaker 3: see an arm fly through the organization like this, and
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  Speaker 3: you see a bat fly through the organization like this,
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  Speaker 3: I want to get your take.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take AJ's question here that he's asking to pass.
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  Speaker 3: Who do you go with in the draft? You know,
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  Speaker 3: do you go with that big batter, do you go
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  Speaker 3: with that possible arm? When we know that sometimes arm
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  Speaker 3: is an injury away or who knows what away.
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  Speaker 4: From not being who we thought they were gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, you know, you always kind of think
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  Speaker 1: about that. And the Reds kind of just go with
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  Speaker 1: who they liked the most. And they really liked CAGs,
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  Speaker 1: they really liked Nick Kurtz, the first baseman at wake Forest,
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  Speaker 1: but they just felt like Chase Burns was someone they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't pass up. And if you remember last year, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: talking about Bazanna or Charlie Condon going one two and
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  Speaker 1: which one's gonna go one and then the other would
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  Speaker 1: go two? And the Reds kind of went off board
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  Speaker 1: and went with Burns and kind of took some heat,
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  Speaker 1: like people criticized that pick at the time, and they
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  Speaker 1: just said, hey, we really like this guy. And and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to the signing scout today
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  Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I put a seventy on
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  Speaker 1: his fastball of seventy on the slider, but I put
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  Speaker 1: an eighty on his competitiveness and that is what really
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  Speaker 1: tipped the scales in his his favor.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Trent C Trent, which one is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Trent or C. Trent. It's both, but Trent's fine.
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  Speaker 2: What is every show?
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  Speaker 1: I know? But I want to know what the C
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  Speaker 1: stands for?
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  Speaker 5: Charles, Charles, Charlie, You're Charlie from now on, Charlie, by
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  Speaker 5: the way, Burnt, well, Charlie, you're not not.
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  Speaker 2: Those are your options. He just gave them to you,
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  Speaker 2: and then you tried to give him a different option.
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  Speaker 5: Because I heard a called a lot of things that
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  Speaker 5: I can exactly exactly see. So that's the point. See,
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  Speaker 5: Scott tried to nick himself. That's how you get a nickname, Scott,
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  Speaker 5: you give it to someone else. Now, Trim, all right, Seriously,
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  Speaker 5: I mean Burns, those one hundred Burns has a nasty slider.
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  Speaker 4: We all know this.
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  Speaker 5: But could they give him an easy, easier landing spot
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  Speaker 5: than the Yankees, Like they gotta go Yankees off the bat?
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  Speaker 1: Like they couldn't have given.
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  Speaker 5: Him Rockies or something White Sox or I mean someone
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  Speaker 5: like that, they went Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the duries don't always happen, and
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  Speaker 1: holes in your rotation don't always happen when you want him.
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  Speaker 1: But honestly, from what I've talked to Chase and the
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  Speaker 1: people I've talked around with him. I think if you
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  Speaker 1: gave him his his brothers, he would pick the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: of the Dodgers. You know, face show Hay or Judge
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  Speaker 1: right away, first inning in the big leagues. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: face Aaron Judge. How are we doing? You get an
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  Speaker 1: idea where you stand real quick when that guy's at
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  Speaker 1: the plate?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to ass you know, you talk about
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  Speaker 3: the elite fast ball, talk about the least slider, and
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  Speaker 3: I know he's done it. I know he competes, and
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  Speaker 3: it's a different level. How much of that is stuff
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  Speaker 3: that we're looking at? And I know college is different
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  Speaker 3: as well because we saw him overpower a lot of hitters.
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  Speaker 3: But how much of that is a guy who actually
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  Speaker 3: is coming here he's going to be able to rely
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  Speaker 3: on some command as well, because you know, as we know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of guys come up here with stuff, but
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  Speaker 3: what lose them is that ability to command the strike zone,
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  Speaker 3: and up here stuff still gets hit. Where's he as
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  Speaker 3: far as the organization believes, as far as a command
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  Speaker 3: standpoint goes.
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  Speaker 1: They're they're just over the moon. I mean they wanted
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  Speaker 1: him to fail somewhere along the way. And even if
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  Speaker 1: you look Atrhet Louder, Like Rhet Louder when he went
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  Speaker 1: up to Double A last year, he struggled for his
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  Speaker 1: first three or four starts and then kind of got
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  Speaker 1: it together touched. I think he had one start in
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  Speaker 1: Triple A and then you know, he made six starts
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  Speaker 1: in the Big League and put up a one to
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  Speaker 1: one six ERA or something like that, and so, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think they were really hoping that someone
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  Speaker 1: would hit them somewhere along the way, just to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this isn't all that easy. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: all the places they had to play them and pitch them,
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  Speaker 1: nobody could touch them. So uh yeah, it's uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy.
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  Speaker 5: It's weird, though, Trent. Did you know the Reds, unlike
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  Speaker 5: the Cubs who were in their division, when they brought
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  Speaker 5: up their young stud Horton, they used an opener because
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  Speaker 5: they didn't want them to have to face the top
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  Speaker 5: of the Mets line up the first time, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because Lindor Soto and Alonzo they only come up once again,
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  Speaker 5: so if you don't face them that first time, you're
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  Speaker 5: never gonna have to face them. I love that, Tito
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  Speaker 5: Francona's little more old schools, like, hey, Chase Burns, guess
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  Speaker 5: what you throw a hunter with a nasty slider, Go
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  Speaker 5: get the Yankees in the first thing.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what you got.
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  Speaker 5: But that's to me, that is awesome of the kid.
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  Speaker 1: I believe in you, right and and and you know
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  Speaker 1: that is Tito's superpower is that he lets everybody think
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  Speaker 1: that he believed in them one hundred percent. He connects
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  Speaker 1: with everybody and he you know, I think they think
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  Speaker 1: this kid is so special that this is where he
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  Speaker 1: wants to be and where he should be and where
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  Speaker 1: he can compete like I. You know, he may not.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he gets hit around today, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that that's or tomorrow. But I don't think that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: deter him or change anything. It'll just be that learning.
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  Speaker 1: And that's Hey, this is the big leagues. You got
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  Speaker 1: to you gotta face those guys. Sometimes you might as
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  Speaker 1: well see where you are. And like I said, you
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  Speaker 1: Would hope, so he's yeah, you would really hope. So
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  Speaker 1: because well, I'm already working on that story. But but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like the guy is, you know, here's a throwback from
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  Speaker 1: the mustache to the body like you could just put
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  Speaker 1: a dart in his hand, and he looked like he
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  Speaker 1: was part of the rotation with Tom Browning and Mario Soto.
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  Speaker 1: But you want to talk about command, that's really what
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  Speaker 1: he does, and the sequencing and just he's not the
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  Speaker 1: biggest guy. He doesn't have the best stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there's ninety five. Let's let's say, like, let's I'm not
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  Speaker 1: throwing ninety five and it's still really impressive, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not Chase Burns stuff. But he carries himself like that,
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  Speaker 1: and he pitches with that confidence and that intelligence, and
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  Speaker 1: he is he's one of the best pitchers at pitching
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  Speaker 1: that I've seen recently.
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  Speaker 2: what two weeks or so, he's picked up the pop
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  Speaker 2: and now all of the rates that are actually at
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  Speaker 2: a career high for him. So he is taking the
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  Speaker 2: next step? Is he you know, one fifty ops plus
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  Speaker 2: guy and not yet? But he's also super young, and
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  Speaker 2: I mean when you add up everything he's doing, he's
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  Speaker 2: at superstar status, isn't he.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't put anything past him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I I don't know that there's anything on the
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  Speaker 1: baseball field that he can't do. I mean, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: to somebody and they're like, man, we got I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to see him on the mound, you know, after a
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  Speaker 1: ninety nine mile an hour relay throw on the dot.
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  Speaker 1: He's It's one of those things like I still remember
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  Speaker 1: the day that I first heard his name. I had
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  Speaker 1: someone call me and just say, hey, someone of the
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  Speaker 1: Reds told me they found their tattoos. And then we
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  Speaker 1: were like whoa. He's like, yeah, they think that's a
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  Speaker 1: little hyperbolic, but this kid could be really good. And
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  Speaker 1: like you kept hearing these things about oh where he
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  Speaker 1: what he could be, and at the end he just said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: forget all that. We don't care about the ceiling. We
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  Speaker 1: care about the floor because the ceiling just doesn't exist,
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  Speaker 1: and it just doesn't. It's like the ceiling a great
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  Speaker 1: American ball park, there is none and it could just
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  Speaker 1: keep going up. And so yeah, this kid is just
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  Speaker 1: keeps getting better and he's a competitor and he is
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  Speaker 1: a really smart person, and I think that's a big
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  Speaker 1: part of his success and why they think that he
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  Speaker 1: can get even better is because of the intelligence and
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  Speaker 1: maturity that he has at a very young.
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  Speaker 3: Age, having guys like Elie Deli Cruz, having guys at
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  Speaker 3: the helm like Tito Francona. You talk about the confidence,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that is and I think a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people would agree that as Tito's superpower. But I
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  Speaker 3: think at right now, what two games now over five hundred,
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  Speaker 3: this team is still young, still.
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  Speaker 4: Very much in the mix. When you look at the
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  Speaker 4: NL Central, what.
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  Speaker 3: Are you hearing as far as moves, as far as
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline, because they're still not quite there.
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  Speaker 4: There's still a few pieces that need to be had.
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  Speaker 3: What is the how high is the confidence level that
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  Speaker 3: they're going to, you know, be buyers and not sellers
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  Speaker 3: and go I really try to make a push for
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  Speaker 3: his nail Central.
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  Speaker 1: I think they will be buyers, but I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they're gonna make big splashes. It'll probably be more
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  Speaker 1: on the margins. But but you know, because you need
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  Speaker 1: they're not They do not hit left hand as well.
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  Speaker 1: The outfield has been inconsistent. Other than TJ Friedle if
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about underrated guys. TJ. Friedel's having
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  Speaker 1: a heck of a season and when he is healthy
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  Speaker 1: like he was two years ago and this year, he
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  Speaker 1: is a great tone setter at the top of the lineup.
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  Speaker 1: But but third corner outfields just haven't quite found it.
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  Speaker 1: They're hoping that Austin Hayes coming back is part of that.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen Matt McClain kind of turn it around after
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  Speaker 1: struggling early, you know, Noel v Marte, you know, But
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  Speaker 1: but you're counting on Here's the thing is, I think
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  Speaker 1: they're counting on those guys coming back and being healthy.
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  Speaker 1: But no Elily Mart's track record is up and down.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Hayes has been on the i L three times
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  Speaker 1: already this year. When he's been on the field, he's
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  Speaker 1: been great. But if you're counting on that, that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: you always hear about, oh, we're counting on who's going
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  Speaker 1: to return. I just don't know if you can count
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  Speaker 1: on those guys because you haven't been able to.
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  Speaker 3: So so there's a chance I'm sorry, a I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna say so, So there's a chance they could be
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  Speaker 3: sellers if you if you're really being a realistic about
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  Speaker 3: the roster, is what I mean. I'm just I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to insinuate. But when that answer, well, I think they.
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  Speaker 1: Could do something. I think they could do something where
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  Speaker 1: they take from one of their strengths and address one
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  Speaker 1: of their weaknesses, you know, one of those kind of deals.
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  Speaker 1: But those are tougher to do it this time, and
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  Speaker 1: we shall see. It'll it'll be interesting. I think they
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  Speaker 1: are going to add and try to make a run
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  Speaker 1: at this division, because you can. I mean, the Cubs
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  Speaker 1: are really good. The Cubs are maybe the best lineup
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  Speaker 1: in baseball, but you know, you still have questions about
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  Speaker 1: them and their their rotation. So I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: there's a shot, and I think they this is the
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  Speaker 1: time that they want to go for it and get better.
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  Speaker 1: Now we'll see how much they're willing to pay. That
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  Speaker 1: was my question.
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  Speaker 5: How much are they willing to pay? And is this
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  Speaker 5: roster as it's constructed now good enough to make the postseason.
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  Speaker 5: Because here's the problem with the National League.
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  Speaker 1: They're in the National.
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  Speaker 5: League, right, Dodgers are going to be in Bill, these
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  Speaker 5: Mets are probably going to be in the division. Winner
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  Speaker 5: of the Central is probably going to be in That's
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  Speaker 5: probably going to be the Cubs. Giants are Giants, Padres,
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  Speaker 5: one of them is probably going to be in. There's five.
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  Speaker 5: You got one spot left for Braves. I can't count
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  Speaker 5: them in, but a Brewers of Diamondbacks, Reds. There's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people that are fighting. Three Cardinals are another one.
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  Speaker 5: You can throw them in there too, right, So there's
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  Speaker 5: like five six teams and then if you get.
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  Speaker 1: In, listen, if you get in, whoa.
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  Speaker 5: Boy, looko I got I might have to play the
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  Speaker 5: Phillies in the first round, or the Mets or the
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  Speaker 5: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, geez like wow, oh, I'll say the Phillies or
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  Speaker 1: Mets are going. Oh do I want to face Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Green and Andrew Abbot? Uh? You know? True? Like I
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  Speaker 1: like the Reds in a series, especially a short series.
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  Speaker 1: If they're pitching is lined up because you know, if
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  Speaker 1: Hunter Green is back, and then Andrew Abbot, lidolo, uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe Chase Burns maybe uh rtt Louder, maybe
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  Speaker 1: Nick Martinez, Brady Singer. I mean we're talking Brady Singer
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  Speaker 1: as your five four or five. That's pretty good, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I like the Reds pitching, and I really like
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  Speaker 1: them in a short series with that pitching, However, getting
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  Speaker 1: there might be tougher than advancing.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, I got to ask you this. Did the
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  Speaker 5: Reds win the Brady Singer Jonathan India trade? Did they
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  Speaker 5: win it? Because India is not having a great and
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  Speaker 5: Singer's doing what he always does, which is pitched every
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  Speaker 5: fit day, give you innings, give you quality innings. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's not going to be a one eight e er
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  Speaker 5: a guy, but he's going to be low high threes,
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  Speaker 5: low fours and give you quality innings, give you a
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  Speaker 5: chance to win every time out. Did they win that
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  Speaker 5: swap of former Gator teammates.
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  Speaker 1: I think both teams got what they wanted. You know,
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  Speaker 1: John and Andy hasn't really hit yet, but but I
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  Speaker 1: think there's some other impact that he's made. I would
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  Speaker 1: say right now, if you're just looking at the onfield stuff, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Singer is probably a head and war and all that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think both teams, you know, it was just
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  Speaker 1: one of those trades that made so much sense for
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  Speaker 1: both sides, and I don't know that either is regretting
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  Speaker 1: it right now, So I don't I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: there has to be a winner and loser. I think
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  Speaker 1: maybe both teams won.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta lose because there you go, okay, well, and
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  Speaker 2: also still, yeah, let's give it a little more time.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Here's one where I feel like we've had enough time.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I remember talking you soon after the Jamer Candelario signing
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: and we were like huh. And I guess it helped
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit when we saw that Noel v Marte
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: was popped for Royds, although it sounded like they didn't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: know about that until it happened, so again I was like, huh, okay,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: so they didn't know. And he now in back to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: back years, is below replacement level, right, and if you're
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: going on winds above replacement, which is a very popular
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: metric for front offices. So how much of a bust
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: has that signing been? And do you think there's a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: chance that as he's returning here, if he keeps showing
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: kind of nothing with the bat and he's not a
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: helpful guy on defense, that they could cut him.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I've kind of wondered, you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he just he's returning from a rehab assignment today. They
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he played US twenty games and they had
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to activate him and they didn't show much urgency to
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: get them to Saint Louis and just said meet us
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, you know, and I'm not sure exactly where
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: he's gonna play, especially with Marte on the way back.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's you know, Spencer Steer is bat I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: think is coming around and he's he's turned out to
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: be a pretty good defensive first baseman. San Diego Espanol
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: is a guy that you could kind of put in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: every everywhere, and I think maybe he's best served as
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: more of a bench guy. But you know, you still
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: have Christian and Carnesci on strand and then Marte coming back.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I just I've never understood and Nick Krawl is very
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: good explaining his thought process. And I've talked to Nick
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of times and kind of gone and see
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: at least scene where they were coming from. I still
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: don't get the Jamber Candelaria signing, and and yeah, sadly
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it's turned out to be to be, uh not a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: good one. Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, we point out when we're wrong, but I'm going
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to point out when we're right, and our show was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: hitting that one pretty hard, just like you and AJ.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I know it's only ninety one played appearances, but For example,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: this season, his ops plus one hundreds league average is
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: eleven in about a fifth of a seasons of played appearances,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: so it's it's not working for him anymore. Anyway, What
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: do you got?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Last one?
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Right before we let you go through and I got
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: to ask you over your shoulder, you have Terry Francono's book.
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: Did you have to read that before you hot, before
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: the Reds hired him, or before you could get your
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: first interview with him? And then when you did finally
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: get to know him. Did he sign it for you?
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: He did not sign it for me, And I bought
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: it right after they hired him, just to read up
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: and do my homework, because that's kind of what we
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: did at Georgia. We actually read and do our homework.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Oh so it's a picture book. It's a picture book,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: is what you're saying. Has a lot of pictures, a
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: lot of illustrations. You're like, oh, that's funny, bing pang pao,
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: like in Batman, I get it now, I get.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: It, splat bang I would enjoy that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Actually, the Tito picture book it probably good. Yeah, the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: chicken and Beer chapter would be awesome.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: And by the way, Charlie Condon is not off to
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: a good start. I know he went to Georgia and
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: he's your guy, but he Chase Burns was a better
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: pick than him.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now as it right now, that's
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it right now. But yeah, you're.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Right, and it's to see Trent's benefit because he gets
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: to watch Chase on Tuesday. So Trent, thank you for
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: stopping by. Good to see you, and we'll catch you soon.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, guys. Thanks