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Deb Antney Speaks: Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane & Setting the Record Straight · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: George.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything
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  Speaker 2: and everybody.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right,
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  Speaker 1: Lauren came in.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's Laura l Rosa and this is another
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  Speaker 2: episode of the Latest with Laura l Rosa. This is
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  Speaker 2: your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news,
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  Speaker 2: and all of the conversations that shake the room. Baby.
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  Speaker 2: So today I have part two of a conversation that
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure is gonna shake the room up a bit
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  Speaker 2: because we're talking to Deb Antony, mother, manager, businesswoman. We
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  Speaker 2: know her for Deb's House, but also responsible for the
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  Speaker 2: careers of Nicki Minaj, French Montana, Gucci Man, and more.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the conversation as she explains her
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  Speaker 2: relationship with all three of them. I know that one
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  Speaker 2: of the people that a lot of people will point
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  Speaker 2: to when they talk about how you go up the
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  Speaker 2: bat for your artists is your relationship with Nicki Minaj.
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  Speaker 2: And I reached out to you during the time where
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  Speaker 2: there were reports that you guys that like split and
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  Speaker 2: like management, and at first I didn't even know that
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  Speaker 2: you guys were still working together. I thought you had
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  Speaker 2: kind of like took a step back and were just
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  Speaker 2: focusing on Deb's house and what you had happening. But
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  Speaker 2: there are reports that you guys have split because of
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  Speaker 2: her political views.
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh, that was you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I reached out to you then, because before I tried
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  Speaker 2: to be as like, here's what here's what's being said,
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  Speaker 2: and here as close to the sources I can get
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  Speaker 2: people will say or you will say back to me,
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  Speaker 2: because again, when I saw those reports, my first thought
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  Speaker 2: was I didn't know Dev was so actively managing anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she was more focused on the television and
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  Speaker 2: the Dev's house and different things. So I was confused.
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  Speaker 2: So I reached out and said, hey, here's what's being reported.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I will have to report because it's the
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  Speaker 2: only thing I have.
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  Speaker 1: Is this true?
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  Speaker 2: Is there any context to this about what's happening that
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  Speaker 2: I could get?
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, was you? You wasn't called on behalf
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  Speaker 1: of I had said, people but the Jasmine brand, No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: they kept calling too being messy.
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  Speaker 2: The people that posted the story. I saw their story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because they kept calling me to being being messy,
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  Speaker 1: Like one is, I'm not getting into the political thing
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  Speaker 1: because I can't tell anybody their political views, who too
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  Speaker 1: and who not to?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 1: What is democracy? Like? I do know what democracy is?
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  Speaker 1: You understand period? All Right? I gotta keep asking people
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  Speaker 1: with some dad on mega because they keep saying this
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  Speaker 1: mega thing mega or whatever it is and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know, and myself it came I'm gonna just go
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  Speaker 1: ahead with it, borrow somebody would say that because of
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  Speaker 1: political views when they don't call me that. Also because
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  Speaker 1: again or growing up in hip hop, I said, if
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  Speaker 1: I had to just know what I said, if I
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  Speaker 1: had to vote for somebody, I would have voted for him, right.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't vote for him. So by the way I
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  Speaker 1: became a Trump or a Maga, I became net. I
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  Speaker 1: ain't argue with that because the one thing I was
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  Speaker 1: always taught don't argue people about two things. That's religion
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  Speaker 1: in politics. Okay, so I stay away from that.
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  Speaker 2: But that was in twenty twenty one, right when you
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  Speaker 2: said that, I forgot what that was. Yeah, not to
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  Speaker 2: cut you off, but it's because when you say things
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  Speaker 2: like that, knowing what the world is seeing happening with
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, it's hard for people not to associate you
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  Speaker 2: with Mecca because that's kind of what happened with Nicki
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  Speaker 2: minaj As will too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you want to know something, you want to
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  Speaker 1: know something. We all do a lot of things. You
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  Speaker 1: understand if you said here, it's spent your life trying
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  Speaker 1: to appease people. I pray for you. I am not
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  Speaker 1: going to spend my life trying to please people if
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  Speaker 1: that's what I chose to do. But let me explain
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  Speaker 1: something to you. I've been invited to the White House
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of times, not by him, but other things
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  Speaker 1: that was going on. I never got to go because
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  Speaker 1: it always was something that was in the way. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who out there, if it was ever invited,
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  Speaker 1: would not show up. There. Ain't got nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with him. It's just the idea of saying, you know
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  Speaker 1: how I felt meeting being honored by Jesse Jackson multiple times.
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  Speaker 1: You know how I felt meeting Maya Angelo. You know
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  Speaker 1: how I felt sitting down with Depster King, Martin Luther
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  Speaker 1: King's son talking to me and pouring things into me
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  Speaker 1: when I was down. You know, I feck the many
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  Speaker 1: people that I have so much respect for that I
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  Speaker 1: said that that I met that some people don't even
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  Speaker 1: care for today. I'm not gonna go against I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't particularly care for Puffy, but I would not
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  Speaker 1: go against that man now it's a black man still,
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  Speaker 1: even though I don't agree with what he did with
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  Speaker 1: a woman, I'm not gonna go against. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe it knocking somebody down when they're already down.
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  Speaker 1: Not the people called they want to talk about that
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  Speaker 1: knowing about stuff he did, now you wanna tell me
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  Speaker 1: what he did? You ain't telling me the stuff before?
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  Speaker 1: Why tell me now? R Kelly' knowing this stuff about
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  Speaker 1: him forever? Black people just need to get up off
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  Speaker 1: of it, make your mind up, and choose your side
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  Speaker 1: on which side you want to be on, period it
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel.
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  Speaker 2: It was on you were talking to Big Fats. I
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  Speaker 2: think you were on Big Fats when that for that
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  Speaker 2: interview and which one when you were well they were
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  Speaker 2: talking to you about the whole Donald Trump thing, because
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  Speaker 2: it was around that time in twenty twenty one, and
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  Speaker 2: you had mentioned that what you like about Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that you can't control him. Do you
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  Speaker 2: steal for that way? Now?
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  Speaker 1: I like anybody that can't be controlled and have their
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  Speaker 1: own mind, good, bad or different. You understand. I don't
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  Speaker 1: make it my business to follow anything that the man
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  Speaker 1: is doing. There's a lot of stuff going on. What
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  Speaker 1: we gonna do about the sweetheart? We ain't doing nothing
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  Speaker 1: about our own culture. We ain't stop doing the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing. We ain't stop the slaving ourselves. So
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  Speaker 1: how somebody gonna keep talking about a white person and
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  Speaker 1: what theyre doing if we keep going against each other
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  Speaker 1: and keep doing the things we do teach you ain't
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  Speaker 1: trying to listen me. You ain't trying to educate me.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't trying to help me. You just want to
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  Speaker 1: knock me down and bare you out. So come today,
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  Speaker 1: somebody love you, and tomorrow they hate you. Nicki min
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  Speaker 1: and Ivan was the biggest person in the world that
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  Speaker 1: everybody loved. One time she go up there, she going
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  Speaker 1: to do this to them. Ain't even go for no
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  Speaker 1: car to try to get a car. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if she did or not.
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  Speaker 2: Really, be honest, I gotta say that from the right house.
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  Speaker 2: They said that the gold card, but the.
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  Speaker 1: Gold car wasn't real. I knew that it wasn't real. Anybody,
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  Speaker 1: but she became so quick that people want to throw
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  Speaker 1: under the bus. They do this to everybody. They can
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  Speaker 1: love you so much and hate you tomorrow. Look, everybody
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  Speaker 1: fought to get into a party now and everybody's en
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  Speaker 1: me and people want to turn it back. But everybody
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  Speaker 1: want to be in it what's happening. Everybody want to
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  Speaker 1: be in your corner when it's happening for you.
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  Speaker 4: But if one thing happened, if tomorrow one person Laurie
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  Speaker 4: put something up about you that they could say to people,
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  Speaker 4: regardless of what you come back and say, but it
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  Speaker 4: spreads out all over this honor is that person?
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  Speaker 1: Do you understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: I get you, But with the Nicki Minaj saying, I
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  Speaker 2: think again, it's like people are really struggling and going
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  Speaker 2: through it because of some decisions that Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 2: his administration are making. And then she's like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with our artists, we look at you, at them like
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  Speaker 2: your hours, like we want you to understand.
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  Speaker 1: You look at them like they're in human, that people
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  Speaker 1: are in human, that you don't have problems. You look
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  Speaker 1: at people like you don't have anything. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: going through a bunch of stuff and there's nobody helping you,
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  Speaker 1: or or whatever it is. And if you and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking about best situation because you know I'm not
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  Speaker 1: totally I'm not in that. Okay, what what's go and
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  Speaker 1: helping who helped me? Let let's let's go here, Lebo
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  Speaker 1: so Daln, Nicki, minaj Demn, Gucci Man, THEMN, all the
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  Speaker 1: rest of them. Okay, I bought you Nicki Minaje, I
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  Speaker 1: bought you Gucci Man, I bought you Frinch Monsel. I'm
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  Speaker 1: put new York back on. I did I can't in
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  Speaker 1: tell people from New York because my city was falling.
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  Speaker 1: And I brought them to Georgia and popped the place
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  Speaker 1: back off, and they flipped on me? Who helped me?
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  Speaker 1: Who who ever came to my side and said, wow,
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  Speaker 1: she did this? She did that? These artists, don't they
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  Speaker 1: Apparently they can have a Niesia. They all can have.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody could have that Anesia. Who did anything? Who ever
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  Speaker 1: spoke up in my behalf ol And I gave tons
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  Speaker 1: of people opportunities. I opened the door when every door
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  Speaker 1: was closed on you. I believed in you, who believed
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  Speaker 1: in me? No one? They just stopped all over me,
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  Speaker 1: spread rumors on me. I do juste sold from everybody
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  Speaker 1: with the big as life. But I done did all
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  Speaker 1: the dirt to everybody I know. I felt, well, it's
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  Speaker 1: my fault. It's my fault because guess what, alva comes
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  Speaker 1: the truth when you do nothing to defend it. So
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  Speaker 1: that's all everybody has to go on because guess what
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  Speaker 1: that they said? Nothing? But I never felt like I
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  Speaker 1: had to get out here to explain anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Who owe you to I gotta explain myself every day
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  Speaker 1: to you. But if you're all you're read, I have
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  Speaker 1: to constantly go on the internet. I'm out with that thing.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that stuff. I hate that gossiping. I hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't. You don't understand what to do to me?
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  Speaker 1: Did I watch it destroy so many people? My child
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  Speaker 1: ain't here today, score blind. I can't help you. At
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  Speaker 1: that time. They was going in on me. I just
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  Speaker 1: so much. Don't they claim? This is what they claim? Okay, gohall,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna let you go. I was just gonna say,
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  Speaker 2: you know right now, not for the sake of explaining
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  Speaker 2: anything to anybody, but because you are taking opportunity to speak.
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  Speaker 2: And it is where when we do get these like
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  Speaker 2: sit downs with you. Who is it that you want
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  Speaker 2: most to speak up in the midst of all of this,
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  Speaker 2: that you think if they were to stand by your
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  Speaker 2: side and say things the clear things up According to
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  Speaker 2: what you're telling me about the Gucci man, you know
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  Speaker 2: about Nicki Minajen and your relationship or wherever that is.
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  Speaker 2: Who would you want to stand up and what do
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  Speaker 2: they say?
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna stuck them right here long, don't. I
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  Speaker 3: don't usually do this, but I don't. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if that's necessarily where we want to go with this
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  Speaker 3: right now. Right we're not trying to pull anybody else
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  Speaker 3: in I think anything relative to the artist that she's
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  Speaker 3: represented and what she know what.
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  Speaker 1: Jaron, That's why I didn't want to do this, because
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  Speaker 1: I knew that this would kick up so much stuff
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  Speaker 1: for me period that's going on that I have never
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  Speaker 1: had my just zoo. I've never spoken on any of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. This right here with Bratt was piercing to me.
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  Speaker 1: I know that something might look like it is that
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  Speaker 1: is not okay. I promise I you're taking nothing from her.
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  Speaker 1: I've not taken nothing from none of these artists. I've
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  Speaker 1: given them all opportunities Brat. Bratt had her own opportunity
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  Speaker 1: and she was who she was. But Brett didn't do
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  Speaker 1: reality TV either. She didn't really like it. It was
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  Speaker 1: just something that I wanted her to get into because
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  Speaker 1: we were so cool. Let's do that. I can do
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  Speaker 1: this with you. I'm always trying to pitch something with women.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always trying to do something with a woman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I made a bad decision again. I did it again,
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  Speaker 1: and it is what it is. But I'm tired of
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  Speaker 1: finding something else to say about me. I brought so
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  Speaker 1: much good stuff into this industry. I've done so much
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  Speaker 1: in this music and film industry period, A lot that
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  Speaker 1: I have done, and I keep getting stomped on. Ain't
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  Speaker 1: nobody standing up for me? Ain't nobody speaking enough for me?
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  Speaker 1: And now a time that I want to speak is coach. No,
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  Speaker 1: you can only say this nothing. You can only say that, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: devinth bosses out there. I want everybody to know I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling my life story. I'm telling them what I'm comfortable
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  Speaker 1: because nobody knows a lot of stuff. They don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm really doing in my life. I don't discuss
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. Most of these people keep cameras around them.
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  Speaker 1: They made up. That's why they all bugged out now,
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  Speaker 1: just about a lot of them, because now you can't
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  Speaker 1: keep up with nothing when that stuff is not going on,
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  Speaker 1: when it's still ain't happening for you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Debbie's Boss, right, I know that is
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  Speaker 2: your show that you have coming out. There was a
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  Speaker 2: trailer that doctors well too correct, it's already o oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's out. So how many how many episodes do we
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  Speaker 2: have out of Debi's Boss?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it now? It's not even the episode that
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  Speaker 1: was here's we go with another thing, death is? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Dev's how Death's Boss was Bever's Boss. And that was
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  Speaker 1: during the same time that this stuff was going on. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that they wanted this, they wanted my story, and it's
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  Speaker 1: that time. This was we TV. It was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: have been a series. They needed a series. Okay, they
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  Speaker 1: wanted that, and that's what we all talked about at
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  Speaker 1: first doing it. But then all that stuff happened at
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  Speaker 1: WEE TV again, and the people weren't there in the war,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: and people were moving, people lost jobs, and it was
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of little stuff that came in that
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  Speaker 1: went off the table. It was smashed. My show was smashed.
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  Speaker 1: When Brett Disma came in, we went in for the movie.
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  Speaker 1: We turned that the ang the series into a movie.
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  Speaker 1: So now I was doing a movie and Death's House
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  Speaker 1: it was. I was so confused because both shows was
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  Speaker 1: being done at the same time simultaneously to it one
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  Speaker 1: time when everybody was being dropped, I had continuous stuff
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: So I know in depth. In Deb's Boss, right, it's
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  Speaker 2: you have the music angle of it, and you talk
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  Speaker 2: a lot about like people kicking you and getting your
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  Speaker 2: flowers and stuff like that. Do you think that this
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  Speaker 2: is the project or this is the time where people
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  Speaker 2: will finally start opening their ears to listening to things
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  Speaker 2: outside of what is the normal narrative that we hear
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  Speaker 2: when people talk about deb Any because it's not all
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  Speaker 2: bad on time. I don't always hear all bad about.
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  Speaker 1: You, No, I thought, it's just these pasta it gets me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to you called the thief. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like that, and especially the people I love you have
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  Speaker 1: to say what I'm saying. Yep, I don't like that,
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  Speaker 1: like those things that just pressure them for me.
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  Speaker 2: I get it, I do. I just I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I just I hear you and then talking
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  Speaker 2: to you now like this is our first time actually
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  Speaker 2: in a real conversation. I watched I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it was you and your brother. They're on Matt Haffa,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like a real in depth interview.
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  Speaker 1: Might have been both me. Is that yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But so I watched both interviews and I remember
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  Speaker 2: watching it and just being like, you know, as I'm
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  Speaker 2: learning and growing within this industry, like these are the stories,
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  Speaker 2: these are the things. This is like the resilience that
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  Speaker 2: you want to hear about, because it is. It is tough,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't imagine how it was for you because
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of things that I have, like
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  Speaker 2: social media and different platforms that you did not have.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that Devis Balls goes into that as well,
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  Speaker 2: really talks about you just surviving queens and building yourself up.
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  Speaker 2: And I hear you say right now that you're hurt
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  Speaker 2: by a lot of the narrative that is happening right now,
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  Speaker 2: and it's I'm sure it's because you made it through
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  Speaker 2: so much to get to this point and you're still
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  Speaker 2: having to fight.
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  Speaker 1: Not the part that just it just gets to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I think, like I know that one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest things that I go through is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this industry unfortunately, if a man is not sitting here
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  Speaker 1: with you as a woman, it don't really work that
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  Speaker 1: well for you. Okay. And as simple as that, and
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  Speaker 1: even in artists with females, when the man goes you going,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how it's been for women, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: they weren't able to hold onto their own and that's
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  Speaker 1: because men was able to stomp down on you. You
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  Speaker 1: know that that's the things that they're supposed to do.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I'm happy, devast Boss, we're going up hopefully
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  Speaker 1: so with sinking an Emmy nominations for Boss, little mama
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  Speaker 1: plagued me. I want to do a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: with that. Why did you choose her?
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  Speaker 4: Why she?
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  Speaker 2: Why not my mama's doing if she had my attitude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's short, she might be short, but she's still
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  Speaker 1: it's television, you understand what I'm saying. They're sudden illusions.
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  Speaker 1: But she did an excellent job. Lisa Ray. My mother's
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  Speaker 1: so happy because my mama was upset because my mama
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: didn't want this done. My Mama didn't want her life
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: on the earth to make her look like she was
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: a bad mother. She loved Lisa Reay, you understand, said,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Everybody that was on that show was phenomenal. Everybody did
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: a remarkable job, remarkable, the production company, remarkable everybody. It
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: was such enjoyment for these people. When I was really
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: scared because I didn't know, I didn't want this to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: be done. I really didn't know what to be done.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: But I said, you know what, I'm gonna tell my
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: story before everybody else keep telling them, because they keep
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: telling me stories. These stories ain't right. You're not gonna
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: rewrite my history. I'm not gonna let people do that
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: no more. That's not happening anymore. I want to pick
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: and choosers because back in the days when I was
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: doing this, we had our people that we could go
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to to put our stuff out. I'm not a lot
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: for us, but real journalists, you're real, You're not making pretending.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm sitting here with you. There's an oath
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that you took still in doing this and realism. Been
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: doing your homework and checking stuff, you understand, so which
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I'm very happy that you did, because I really never
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: knew when people said that. Now I know that in
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen he did foul a lawsuit on me. I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: didn't know it. People talked about stuff, but I didn't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: know it. You understand on say that nothing ever came
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: to me. So you just enlightened me. Right now. Now,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I just learned that it ain't no dad gonna settlements.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, ambulance, No, it ain't no settlements. It's nothing
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: people owe me. Okay, they owe me a lot. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: gave some big opportunity, sweetheart. And it's very easy for
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: people to get Brad doing today and doing the work
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that I did yesterday because they would have never been
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: able to walk that walk that I walked. Okay, they
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: ain't have that in them. I was a real trooper.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I really was Deborah, really was her. They didn't know
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: about that Deborah in the Bible. I really was Hut.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I had to fight this tooth and nail for each
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: and every one of them. Rather they give me any
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: type of I'm looking talking about flowers. I don't need
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: no flowers. You know, just don't diminish my name. You
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: ain't even if you don't want to talk about me
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: talking about me. Don't diminish me, don't don't do that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Don't make them a line on me. You ain't ever
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: gotta never mention me. I never use anybody, just like
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: even death sounds. I never used breath. I never said
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: her name in nothing. I never I never did any
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of that. So I did something of something that I
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: wanted to do, and it went good. I did a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: reality show. I did real reality something that they said
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't happen, that wouldn't happen in real time. What you've
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: seen is what you got. And I know it touched
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people, because there's tons of people that
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: stopped me, that loved it. That I didn't have that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: drama going on. I wasn't gonna have that drama going on.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I dealt with a lot of women that were hurt.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I wanted women to see themselves on that screen. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: needed you to see you. I didn't need to see
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you because you had a fat behind and a short
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you know, a little waistline and all those little things.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I didn't need to see you because you had the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: story of a strip of or any of this kind
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: of stuff. And I'm not downplaying people. I'm just saying
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I needed you to see you. There's a lot of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: people that would take advantage of the opportunity, but unfortunately
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I still have felt them because they come in and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: they already think they superstars. They've been tainted. These shows
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: got tainted. So many kids out here that think that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: this is so easy to just walk in and this
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: is who I am. You can't even handle a stage.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: You don't know how to work a stage. You don't
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: know how to do an interview, you don't know all
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: these things. You don't know how to do. That's what
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that show was about, not pet not running, not going
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: through the other little things that we talked about, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: then wrap them and go through. I wanted them to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: learn who you was and put away some of your
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: pain and don't hide yourself. That's one of the things
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that people do every time somebody get on TV. They're
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: all made up. I never did that when I was
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in my kitchens, when I was in anything. Don't make
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: me up. I'm gonna come in with slippers. I'm gonna
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: be ready to see you. Ain't always gonna see me
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like that. You're gonna see a real person. I'm a
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: real person. I do real things. I go through real stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I get sick, I Doug Bill collect, I do everything
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that everybody else do. At the end of the day,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: what I want them to know is that we're both
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: gonna lay on that piece of better and go through
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this the same exact way. I'm gonna be your neighbor
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: next door in the hospital. It's gonna be the same.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in human. Don't make me who
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: you want me to be. It's not fair, even you
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: saying a celebrity, it's not fair. I'm Deborah at me
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and that's what I want people to know. I'm not
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: in human. Not perfect, but I'm not in human. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely not a thief. But I think that's a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: good button the ending.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you what you wanted the message
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to be for people to take away from the conversation
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we had today, But I think you just summed.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It up right there. I appreciate you.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: You feel like you got it all out. Do you
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: feel like there's like a because I feel you're fighting
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: a little bit of emotion.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a it's a It's a lot going
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: on in me. I'm Laura Rosa.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: This is the latest with Laura Rosa. You're DELI dig
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the conversations that shake the grown baby. I tell y'all
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: every episode because I really mean it. I appreciate y'all
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: be right here with me. Y'all could be anywhere with
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: any old body talking about all of these things, especially
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: to be a to your worst because everybody's talking about it,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: but y'all's tapping right here with me, my lotw riders.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and I'll catch you in my next episode.