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Week 15 Buy Low & Sell High + Jake Gets Roasted | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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  But about bound banger management Fantasy hockey
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  podcast. Woo woo, welcome in to Buy Low
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  Sell High for week 15 of the fantasy hockey season.
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  You got Kevin here, you got Josh here and no Jake once again
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  because he is living La Vida loca in Florida.
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  Boo, Boo what? He should be here for our fans.
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  Yeah, I think he missed this episode specifically because he
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  had some questionable. Picks.
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  Yeah, and we will be roasting him while he's not here to
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  defend himself. Yeah, exactly.
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  Jackie, you should have been here.
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  I'll do something else but I'm trying to keep PG13.
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  We're kind of answering comments there.
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  Yeah, we've been doing a pretty good job of reacting to what
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  people want. Yeah, give the people what they
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  want. And we're always trying to be
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  better, and now we're gonna be the best because Jake is not
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  here. So exactly.
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  Alright, Josh, start us off with your Bilo.
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  Alright, my Bilo for this week I went to I took a page from the
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  Kevin playbook of like naming like the highest end players
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  possible so it's the most relevant.
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  So my bill for this week is Brady Kuchuk.
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  He's been averaging only .46 points per game and .15 power
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  play points over the past month. His peripherals are still elite.
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  He's got 1.8 * 3.3 shots and 2.9 hits, but even those are lower
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  than his usual amount. He normally has an extra shot on
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  goal and hit per game compared to what he's normally do what
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  he's doing right now. His value doesn't come from his
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  points, so it's terrible. Last month of points doesn't
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  make him an easy by low and obviously everyone still knows
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  his name value, but this is still the value that is going to
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  be his lowest for the rest of the season.
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  The sense has an entire team have been slumping but are
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  starting to turn things around and Norris finally got moved
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  back to the first line with Brady and Batherson.
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  So this bylaw window should be closing very shortly because
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  that line is popping off. So some of my one for one
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  targets and Kevin, feel free to let me know what you think of
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  these. We've got Kyle Connor, who's
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  just been insanely Philip Forsberg, Zach Werenski and
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  Kirill Marchenko. Yep, I mean it completely agree
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  with everything you said. I think it's the only tough
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  thing would Brady is that like you said, people aren't really
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  rostering him for his points. It's like his category coverage
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  which is still insane even though it's lower than usual.
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  Like he's not a double double. He's like a.
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  Triple. Triple.
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  Literally like a triple, triple right Which?
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  Is and normally he's like a quadruple, quadruple, yeah.
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  It just breaks fantasy and you're playing bangers leagues.
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  But this year specifically, he was getting more points than
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  usual, which is really nice, but he's kind of come down, come
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  back down, down, come back down to earth.
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  So like you said, it's a great opportunity to kind of buy on
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  that little dip in point production.
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  The targets you laid out I like a lot.
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  I think the only thing that in my mind is that hinders you from
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  being able to pull this off is that if somebody has Chuck, I
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  don't think they want to take that big of a dip in the.
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  Back cats yeah. What about combining one of
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  these like points guys with like some guy who's like just things
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  and making it like a like a 2 for one?
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  Time, I mean, ideally that's a great right, because we always
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  want to consolidate into a better production, Yeah.
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  But I think, I think for Connor Forsberg and Warenski, I think
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  that's great, is a great target one for one, I'd rather have
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  Brady over all those guys. Marchenko, I agree as well.
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  He's just like a lower tier than the guys you listed before.
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  Yeah, I put some other names too, like I'd rather have if you
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  can in a package, get put JT, get Brady.
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  That'll be lit. Yeah, because I'm Richard, those
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  type of guys. But yeah, either way, I like
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  everything you said. Completely agree.
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  Yeah, I guess like. Playoff schedule too.
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  So yeah, I guess the thing with like Ketchup specifically and
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  what we were saying about him being rostered for his
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  peripherals and not necessarily his points is if you're going to
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  trade a more point for focused guy, you have to make it seem
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  like the points gap is big enough to bridge that gap of
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  back cats. So if you look at like past
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  month, Kyle Connors at like 1.7 points per game, whereas Brady's
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  at like .4, you know, so that massive difference, obviously we
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  all know that's not going to stick.
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  Connor's gonna go down bit and ladies gonna go up a bit.
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  Yeah, but but if you can convince the owner of Kashuk
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  that there that points difference is there, then that's
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  how you get them to accept the decrease in back cats.
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  Yeah, absolutely. It was a great pick.
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  All right, my by low for Week 15 of the fantasy season is Elias
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  Peterson of the Vancouver Canucks.
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  Which one? Wow.
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  You just ruined my mojo. I mean, listen, I think the
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  Canucks right now have been going through going through it
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  with the drama between Miller and and Pete has really been
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  making headlines and causing a lot of controversy on and off
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  the ice. Like we're seeing we've seen
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  Quinn Hughes make comments, we've seen a lot of the media
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  make comments. People are like addressing it.
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  People are saying it's fake. So a lot of stuff is happening
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  right now and it's kind of hindering both of their
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  productions. Like we just spoke about how JT
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  is ice time and power play time is specifically like very low or
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  nonexistent. P has been a shadow of himself.
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  Like he's usually a one type of points per game player.
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  He's at like 0.4 so. But I do think that better days
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  are ahead for him. He was just hurt as well.
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  And before he got hurt he was also on a huge dry streak and
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  his peripherals have been lower. Like he's not shooting as much
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  and he's not hitting as much either.
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  So I think now is the perfect time to buy because I think if
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  JT gets traded, I think his value goes way up.
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  And even if he doesn't get traded, I think he's going to be
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  better than what he's been doing over the last 30 days at 0.38
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  points per game, 1.75 shots per game.
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  Like he's over pointing a player and the power play should click
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  more with him on it now that he's back.
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  And yeah, if JT gets traded, I think everything like harmonizes
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  more in the situation there. And I have a few names.
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  I'd trade one for one. If you have yes per Brap, I'd
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  trade them in a heartbeat for Pete.
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  If you have Nazem Kadri, who's been really hot lately, I think
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  that's a really good sell high and buy low for Elias
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  Pettersson. And also I put Carter Verhaeghe
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  as well to try to get Elias Pettersson other team.
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  Yeah, I, I fully agree. I think the whole JT and
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  Patterson thing is really, like you said, affecting the entire
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  team. And this is something that like,
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  you have a clear cause and effect and you know that the
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  situation is going to be remedied between now and like
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  trade deadline. Thing is, it's not like
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  Vancouver could afford to just take a year off of being
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  competitive. They have to do what it takes to
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  get better. And since this is clearly the
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  cause of all their issues, they're gonna deal JT at the
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  deadline or some very slim chance that Patterson gets
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  dealt. But regardless, it's going to be
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  great for it's gonna be great for Peterson, is gonna be great
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  for JT. I think I think honestly, like
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  the whole Vancouver top squad, other than Quinn, who just does
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  well no matter what. Yeah, but the rest of them are
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  all all by lows. But specifically Peterson is a
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  great example because the whole situation, the fact that it will
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  get resolved, the question is how soon will it get resolved?
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  You know, like you might have to be patient and wait closer to
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  the trade deadline for it to happen.
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  But I think this is a clear, a clear situation where and this
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  is I think the second time that person's been a buy low for us.
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  I think we mentioned it maybe like a month and a half ago, and
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  then right after we mentioned it, he started popping off.
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  So like, this is the type of guy that you have to get him when
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  he's at his lowest value because once he starts going off, the
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  owner's not going to want to get rid of him.
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  I think all your targets are good targets.
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  I'd definitely rather have Peterson than any of those guys.
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  I'm not sure if you'd be able to pull it off one for one, but if
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  you can, because of how bad Patterson has been, I think
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  that's a huge one. And the one thing I want to say
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  why I think he's like an enticing by law is that even
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  from the start of the season, he has really been popping off.
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  So it's kind of like if you drafted Peterson, you drafted
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  him high. Like he's a.
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  Top second round, probably round.
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  Pick Yeah. You're not thrilled you're
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  getting anywhere close to that production, right?
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  So he's been kind of like underperforming the whole
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  season. But we're kind of getting to the
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  point where we see we can see a major cause and effect for our
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  turnaround anything. Now is the time to cash in a
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  little bit and try to get that done in person on your team.
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  Yep, fully agree. Do you wanna take cheekies or
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  should I? Go for.
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  It all right, Jake's choice for a buy low is Jeremy Swagman.
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  He hasn't had a great year overall, he's been pretty
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  inconsistent and the Bruins as a whole have not been a great team
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  and I don't expect them to be a top team like they have in years
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  asked. But as we mentioned on previous
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  episodes, players on teams that are fighting for a playoff spot
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  are the best ones to own, and I believe this is especially true
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  for goalies. Swimming is absolutely the guy
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  there, and this is really his first opportunity as a starter
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  in his career. So although the volume of games
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  may be new territory for him, he's managed to adjust
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  accordingly, putting up a .917 save percentage over the past
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  month and he also leads the league in saves during that
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  period with 288. The biggest issue for him moving
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  forward will be wins, but concerning Boston is a win now
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  team and they need to rely on him to dish out top
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  performances. I think it's an excellent
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  opportunity to buy a sure thing starter on a team that needs to
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  compete every game rest of the season.
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  So good one for one targets that Jiggy put are Dustin Wolf,
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  Joseph Woll, Pieter Kochetkov, the last two specifically
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  because when Stollers and Freddy come back they won't be sure
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  things starters. So I guess first I'll react even
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  though I said it because it was a joke.
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  Let me let me know you react first and then I'll react to
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  your reaction. My reaction is I like to pick.
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  I think swimming definitely is a buy low.
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  I think you need to temper expectations with what you're
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  expecting, like Rise to be. Don't think it's gonna be top
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  five fantasy goalie, right. No, but he's not playing there
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  right now. I think he can be a top 15
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  fantasy goalie yeah, which you drafted him way higher than
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  that. But expectations change
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  throughout the season. Boston is a lot worse than we
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  all expected. I think specifically the targets
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  that Jake put, I'd rather have swimming over all these guys.
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  I think Wolf is probably the harder one to flip because he's
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  kind of like up and down off waivers in your fantasy leagues
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  most likely. But I think Wall and Kachka
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  right now, if you can flip those guys for swimming, I'd really
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  like that because like Jake mentioned, scholars and Freddie
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  coming back, solar is probably closer timeline than Freddie.
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  Freddie is really ambiguous. But either way, I think right
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  now even when those guys hurt, I probably take Swamin.
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  So when those guys come back, there gonna be a way bigger
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  timeshare. Swimming is going to get the
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  bulk of that starts in Corpus. Always had some run but.
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  I'm not worried about corpus, yeah.
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  Exactly. I'm not worried about Corpus.
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  I think Women is obviously the guy that just paid him to
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  Boston. Should be a better team.
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  They're gonna figure it out a little bit.
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  I expect a bounce back from swimming.
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  I fully agree and I like what he said about those teams that are
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  competing for a playoff spot. You know, you've got like one,
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  teams are like coasting, you know, obviously it's great
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  because that means getting a lot of wins to get there.
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  But then when it comes down to like fantasy playoffs, you know,
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  they might not care as much because the games don't have as
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  much meaning. One, your team is playing for
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  that last wild card spot right up until fantasy playoffs.
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  The teams playing harder every game has more meaning.
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  And so especially for goalies, like he said, I fully agree with
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  that. And yeah, I think also like what
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  you said with his targets, I think Wolf, that's never going
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  to happen, to be honest. I think I mean, if you can't, I
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  think if you could pull that off, that's great.
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  Or you could do like a wolf plus something else in a package
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  would be great. Wollen Chekov, I think could
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  both get done. And I think that the fact that
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  Stolarz and like you said, Freddie, maybe one day we'll
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  come back, but stole ours coming back.
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  And also just in general, like I think swimming is better than
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  those two. So I like both of those as a one
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  for one targets. Exactly.
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  Good job Jake if you placed out because we hate your yourself
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  yourself. Exactly.
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  Alright, so moving on to sell highs, my cell high for this
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  week is someone that I'm kind of obsessed with and that is Lean
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  Hudson. And I don't think, yeah, I was
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  gonna say I don't think anyone's not obsessed with Lane Hudson,
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  especially Habs fans. But just to give an idea of how
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  absurd his past month has been, he's averaging 1.15 points per
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  game and .54 power play points per game over the past month,
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  which is just absurd. That's absurd numbers for a
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  forward, let alone for a defence, let alone for a rookie
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  defence Yeah, let alone for a rookie defence on the Montreal
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  Canadiens. OK, that's just insane yeah.
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  It's just it's actually crazy how night and day the Habs are.
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  Ever since moving him to power play one and just having him in
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  the lineup, it's just crazy difference.
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  The one knock to his super good play lately is the fact that he
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  has pretty much 0 peripherals. He's only got 1.15 shots and
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  1.23 blocks and pretty much zero hits.
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  So I think he's the real deal and a great fantasy option rest
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  of the season. But he's a rookie and they're
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  notorious for being streaky. He's also on an insane run right
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  now and the hype around him is crazy due to him being on the
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  haves and being a Calder favorite.
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  As a defenseman he's also amazing and appoints league, but
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  in a bangers league he's a lot less good because of the lack of
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  peripherals. So using this hype around him
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  and his crazy pointstreak recently, you should be able to
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  secure a real top tier defenseman who's slumping but
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  could get you a similar amount of points for us this season
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  with a lot more peripherals. So kind of guys that I would
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  target are Evan Bouchard's most Cider, Roman Yosi and Mackenzie
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  Weeger. And I'd love to hear your
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  thoughts on those targets and the general sell high.
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  I mean, I completely agree with everything you're saying
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  obviously, right. Like I think we if you just
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  listen to our previous episode, if you haven't, go take a look.
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  But we spoke about Nolan Hunter versus Dougie Hamilton rest of
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  season. We kind of mentioned how Lynn
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  Hudson right now is performing what people expected Luke use to
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  do last season. But like you mentioned, he's
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  fully appoints guy. He's not really going to be
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  contributing in blogs or shots or hits.
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  And if you're in a bangers league specifically, that's a
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  pretty big knock on a person's fantasy value, right?
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  Yeah, especially from the defensive position where you're
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  expected to get more of your bank accounts from those
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  positions. But I love your targets.
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  I think all of them are really attainable right now.
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  I think Bouchard and you are probably the hardest ones just
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  because they do hold tremendous name value.
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  Yeah, so. But in a package, I would not be
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  shocked to have that done. And honestly, there's a world
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  where if you're the OC owner and you flip them for Hudson plus,
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  you're better off. Yeah, there's a world where that
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  happens. McKenzie with your I think.
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  And Cider, I really like them as targets as well because there's
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  like a different. Archetype.
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  Yeah, exactly. You're getting a more really
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  solid Bangor Cats but less points production, but there's
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  still people defend their own teams as well.
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  I would add some extra names in there too, like if you can flip
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  them for Headman. I like that a lot.
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  Headman was on a load to be honest.
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  As admin owner, I was pretty not happy because I just traded for
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  him. But yeah, I think all of them
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  are great targets. Yeah, alright, my turn for my
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  cell high. And Jake would be really pissed
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  off about this because he's on his team.
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  We've spoken about this, but myself high for Week 15 of the
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  fantasy season is Dylan Larkin, captain for the Detroit Red
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  Wings. So Larkin is currently
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  benefiting from a huge new coach bump, as well as a new and
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  improved power play that has been honestly just insane over
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  the last month and the last few weeks.
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  Over the last two weeks, he's averaging one goal a game, one
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  goal the game over the last two. Weeks.
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  That's not point, that's a. Goal one goal game is average
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  1.5 points per game and one power play point a game.
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  Over the last two weeks it's completely revised how slow his
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  start to the month was and it's giving us a really great
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  opportunity to really sell high on him and his name value right
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  now because he's been one of the hottest centres in the league
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  and he holds serious name value. He's shooting at about 33% over
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  the last two weeks. That means every third shot is
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  going in the back of the net. Just ridiculous.
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  Definitely sustainable. Nobody's.
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  Sustaining that level of conversion rate.
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  So if the power play slows down, which we can expect because it's
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  not gonna score every game, his production metrics are going
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  back to blow point per game pace, which you would feel
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  normal for Larkin. But some really nice targets I'd
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  aim for right now. I think Brayden Point is the
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  dream target. He's one of the top five centres
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  in the league on one of the best power plays in the league.
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  I think a flip like that would be crazy.
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  If you can get Barkov or Sebastian Aho, that would also
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  be nuts. Cross position.
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  I put names like JT Miller, Oranski and Matichuk.
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  What do you think? I really like everything you're
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  saying. I mean, it's crazy what a
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  competent coach could could do to a team, you know, but.
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  He's not even a coach that's supposed to be.
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  Good for the power player? No that's not his.
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  But The thing is that land was so bad.
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  OK I'm saying this. I'm saying this as a pet owner
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  from last year and as someone who actively avoided the Red
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  Wings this year because of the land.
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  As a coach, it's just baffling how some coaches don't realize
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  if you just put your 5 best players on the power play unit
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  it usually works out. You know?
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  It's crazy. Took a new coach for the power
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  play unit to be Larkin, Kane, Debrincat, Raymond and Slider.
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  That's just such an obvious 5. Like that's their top five guys
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  and everyone else is at a full tier below that on that.
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  Team happening behind the scenes, yeah, like not a
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  performance issue, but like archetype of.
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  Player position, that's it. I mean, I think everyone's
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  convinced in their head they have to have this.
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  I don't know if it was Rod who started this or what, but like
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  this we need to have or like on a New Jersey, they're doing it
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  to all this. Like we need a fourth line who's
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  a big body to stand in front of the net.
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  You know, like, sure, that works for a lot of teams.
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  You know, like Stephen Mason is having a great season in New
• 17:03
  Jersey, but you know, sometimes just putting your 5 best players
• 17:06
  does it. So anyways, so there is a reason
• 17:08
  why they're popping off of it and it's the new coach and the
• 17:10
  new lines, but it is just way too much of an overcorrection
• 17:13
  and it's not going to last. No, it's just insane.
• 17:17
  Nico, he should have started the season where we said you can
• 17:19
  sell high for one of those 1st 200% like you do it and if you
• 17:23
  did it, you were thrilled because you probably have pulled
• 17:25
  it. Off completely and these new
• 17:26
  coach bumps, like they never last for this high of a level.
• 17:31
  Like they'll still be better than they were with the old
• 17:34
  coach rest of season, but they're not going to be this
• 17:36
  much better. Yeah, but you could probably
• 17:37
  sell people on the point You're. Look, there's a clear reason why
• 17:40
  he improved. You know, forget all that old
• 17:41
  stuff. This is the new Dylan Larkin,
• 17:42
  you know, so all your targets are amazing targets.
• 17:45
  I'll take all of them over Larkin.
• 17:47
  And feasible. I think they're very feasible.
• 17:49
  I mean, you look at a guy like look at Miller, we were just
• 17:51
  talking about as a. That's the classic like sell
• 17:53
  high buy. Low that would be, I think, the
• 17:55
  perfect one. I think you could do that one
• 17:56
  for one honestly, and you know, we're not fans of one for one
• 17:59
  trades, but like I think you could pull that off and I way
• 18:02
  rather Miller for us this season.
• 18:03
  So I think that's a great one. Warenski's tough, obviously
• 18:06
  cross position and also just Brewski's been insanely hot as
• 18:08
  well. So I don't think that gets
• 18:10
  pulled off. Kachaks been quiet again.
• 18:12
  I'd rather have Chuck point, like you said, is the dream
• 18:14
  target. He's also been a bit hot though
• 18:16
  so it could be it could be hard. That and I won't park off a NHO
• 18:19
  as well. I think are both really solid.
• 18:20
  Ones I wanted to put some cross position option because I've
• 18:22
  received a lot of questions where you know somebody has like
• 18:25
  an abundance of like an extra set of centre.
• 18:27
  And they need a. Defenseman you wanna swap with
• 18:29
  somebody else need the opposite thing so trying to find similar
• 18:31
  value cross position wise. OK, I like.
• 18:33
  That would you do Larkin for Yoshi's?
• 18:36
  Do you think it's a fair deal? I think it could get done.
• 18:39
  I'd rather have the OC side. I think it's I think you'll see
• 18:42
  another bi lo and market. And so I think that could
• 18:44
  actually get done yet and I would take you over Larkin.
• 18:47
  But yeah, no, I agree with the agree with everything you said.
• 18:50
  All right, Should I let you do the honors of doing Jake?
• 18:52
  He's terrible, so high. But I just want to say one last
• 18:54
  thing. It's always hard to trade a guy
• 18:56
  with his averaging like over a goal game, right?
• 18:59
  Because you're like you're right in the high right now heading
• 19:01
  your fantasy matchups. You're like, wow, this is crazy.
• 19:03
  Then training for and guide us playing below production.
• 19:06
  It's so scary. And The thing is also like with
• 19:09
  those Vilosell highs, like it's not like once you make the
• 19:12
  switch, the guy who traded away immediately is gonna start
• 19:15
  sucking. The guy traded for it.
• 19:16
  Like that happens like once in a blue moon, you know?
• 19:18
  But that's not like that's not how it actually works.
• 19:19
  You gotta wait, you know, a couple weeks before it sets in.
• 19:22
  You gotta be. From Martha Stewart McAvoy,
• 19:24
  right? Before.
• 19:24
  That's it exactly. Yeah, that's the idea between
• 19:27
  Vilosell high, all right, to give us Jake's cell high.
• 19:31
  All right, Jake's cell hard now. Everything my mother say is
• 19:34
  Jake's words, not mine. Please do not associate with me.
• 19:38
  But he says, firstly, FU seven, so clearly not saying that about
• 19:42
  myself, but he's very upset that I put Larkin as myself high as
• 19:46
  he is the Larkin owner. But secondly, Jakey Sahai is
• 19:50
  Jordan Stall. So this is what he says.
• 19:53
  This isn't the type of guy that you're going to be able to get a
• 19:55
  hall like Bouchard or Brayden Point or anybody else.
• 19:59
  But people may remember the years where Jordan Staal was a
• 20:01
  monster fantasy hockey. And it's possible that seeing
• 20:03
  his recent production playing alongside Switch, even though
• 20:05
  Rod will switch up the lines, but yet they may be optimistic
• 20:09
  about his production moving forward.
• 20:10
  Some may be willing to buy him at 1.29 points per game or the
• 20:14
  last month. This is of course going to
• 20:15
  regress substantially and anyone left holding the bag when his
• 20:18
  production drops to 0.30 point five points per game, we'll
• 20:22
  regret not trying to shop him at the highest value.
• 20:25
  I think he's Rossville rest of season in leagues that value
• 20:27
  faceoff wins, but also for leagues that don't.
• 20:31
  I think he can end up on waivers by the end of this month if it's
• 20:34
  points regress, which they will. You can't aim super high with
• 20:36
  this. I think it's more of a
• 20:37
  compliment in a 2 for two offer, but the type of player I would
• 20:40
  expect back for him are is like Michkov, Gravlin, Fantilli,
• 20:45
  Aldo. Fantin may be harder now that he
• 20:47
  has a better deployment. Nick Schmaltz.
• 20:50
  Dylan Cousins. So yeah, What do you think,
• 20:53
  Josh? OK, my first instinct is to say
• 20:57
  that a guy who's under 30% owned shouldn't be a sell high because
• 21:02
  in most leagues you could just pick him up and.
• 21:06
  Thank you for hearing. This all Josh?
• 21:08
  Yeah, like this is a clear no one's ever gonna accept a trade
• 21:12
  with just this guy because he had four good games and he's
• 21:15
  other than that pretty much a waiver guy who's got, you know,
• 21:18
  decent peripherals, but he'll get picked up and dropped in
• 21:20
  whatever the little hot streak and no ones gonna buy into it.
• 21:22
  You know. So I the one thing I will give
• 21:25
  Jackie is that he didn't shoot too high with the targets.
• 21:27
  You know, they're they're all reasonable targets.
• 21:29
  And he did mention it as more of in a 2 for two offer where
• 21:33
  Jordan installs kind of like a throw in, you know.
• 21:34
  So in that sense, I agree. I don't think worth mentioning
• 21:37
  as the main focus of the cell high.
• 21:39
  I do want to say though, that there are a lot of listeners
• 21:42
  that play in deep leagues where, you know, there's guys that are
• 21:44
  like 5% raw that are getting picked up on the basis of stream
• 21:47
  and whatever and Jordan Stalls definitely roster one of those
• 21:49
  type of leagues and can be like a good fantasy contributor for
• 21:52
  your team. But The thing is, I don't know
• 21:53
  if that's the rest of the season.
• 21:55
  He definitely is on a hot streak and.
• 21:58
  Leaks like that where you're. For sure.
• 22:00
  I think I'm. General waiver guys that are not
• 22:01
  really. Like, yeah, I'm just skeptical
• 22:03
  that anyone's gonna fall for that.
• 22:05
  I think people need more sample size from a guy like that before
• 22:08
  they're willing to to buy him. But you know what he said?
• 22:11
  Maybe people remember the good old days of Jordan Stall being a
• 22:14
  Bangers monster. Know your audience too, don't
• 22:15
  league mates who would put a lot of value on the.
• 22:18
  That's it Just so there's a lot of things that are great in an
• 22:21
  ideal world where we'd be able to sell every guy that we pick
• 22:25
  up off waivers who has a little hot streak, you know?
• 22:28
  And that's why I'm very skeptical of this pic because
• 22:31
  that's just how fast hockey works.
• 22:32
  You pick up a guy, he has a great two weeks and then you
• 22:34
  drop him. You know, to be able to sell
• 22:36
  someone, you have to be able to convince the other owner that
• 22:38
  they're gonna be good for the rest of the season, and I just
• 22:42
  don't think Stall has shown that yet.
• 22:44
  I'm not saying he won't, but he said he'd have to keep it up for
• 22:46
  another couple of weeks before being worthy of mentioning.
• 22:48
  I think in negotiations you have to be aware that you're not
• 22:51
  trying to dupe the other owner and you're taking like scrubs
• 22:54
  for stars, right? You're trying to actually have a
• 22:56
  negotiation where both parties are getting something out of it.
• 22:58
  It's just hard to kind of like feel like stall has the rest of
• 23:01
  season value when you're trading for him.
• 23:05
  So it's hard when you're depending on the targets who
• 23:08
  you're aiming for to get that. Like I'm a Dylan Cousins owner.
• 23:10
  I would not accept for Jordan Stall right because.
• 23:13
  I wouldn't trade anything for Stall.
• 23:15
  I'm serious. I'm he's a guy who just got
• 23:17
  picked up off waivers, had three good games, and now someone's
• 23:19
  gonna try and package them to me.
• 23:20
  That like immediately sends red flags in my head.
• 23:23
  The only thing here, let me let's have just a small
• 23:25
  discussion on this and then we'll wrap it up.
• 23:27
  But I know there's some leaks out there that are like
• 23:30
  extremely deep that, you know, it's like, would you rather have
• 23:32
  Jordan install or like Pavel do Rafael V rest of the season?
• 23:36
  I mean. If you're not in, if you're not
• 23:39
  enough, face off wins league. Not in a faceoff wins league,
• 23:41
  rather have our fave. See, that's the type of player
• 23:43
  that I think maybe you can make a make a swap for that right
• 23:45
  now. OK.
• 23:46
  You're saying in a league where both of those guys are owned
• 23:49
  like you could? Argue like that.
• 23:50
  I've gotten questions where people are like you're doing a
• 23:53
  little stakes trades where it's like Brady Shades and involved
• 23:55
  in the trade or OK, which is the guy that should be on.
• 23:57
  Waivers OK fair enough. In a really like super deep
• 24:00
  league where like guys who are like that low owned percentage
• 24:04
  are owned, then you can I would get rid of stall as well because
• 24:07
  I think this is a blip. Because he's, I mean, his
• 24:09
  production over the last month has been insane.
• 24:11
  And if you can flip him for a guy that's going to get more
• 24:13
  power play exposure and whatever, yeah, I think that's
• 24:16
  something to keep in mind. So just trying to give some
• 24:18
  insight into why Jackie may be. OK, cool.
• 24:21
  We'll say it's just a deep cut and I'll leave it at that.
• 24:24
  But yeah, I guess that's wrap it up for this.
• 24:26
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• 24:28
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• 24:49
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