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119. [Kentucky] William Sparkman Jr. · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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Hey, everyone, welcome to Blessed this Mess in the True Grum Podcast.
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I don't care who is to say hast do. Hey, right, So
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we're back and this week we are going to Kentuckys. Do we haven't been
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there in a while. I don't think, Well, not a lot happened
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since Bartown. Maybe maybe something in between. There's gotta be Yeah, I
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had to do. I mean, Barstown is just rememorable. Kentucky's a smaller
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populated state. I would say, do you know, no, but I'm
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a sidey. I mean, if you say it was confidence, that was
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Kentucky's a smaller populated state, a lower population states do so not a lot
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happening. And they're good people there. They don't be murdering each other,
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you know, as much as they do in other places like Florida. Like
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Florida and Texas, they really hit up hard, a lot of murdering in
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Texas. Yeah, so I swear back this week we're going to Kentucky.
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We're trying to get back on schedule, so this will release on Wednesday to
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the Patreon and then Thursday to everybody else and then hopefully we can get on
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schedule. But we're probably lying to you because we say this every time,
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we say this every week. I also say I'm gonna do better on Instagram.
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I have been doing better on Instagram in Facebook. I've been sharing some
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of my recipes. I've been rellingto overnight oats. I've been trying to make
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better choices. So it's too late for the choice you made with me though,
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No, yeah, it's too late. I mean there's some things you
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can't undo with that lawyer. So where we are, where we are anyways,
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But what have we been up to this week's do stuff? It is
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late, So I'll warn you right now that what happened was is our our
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go to child, the baby. She is a great sleeper, so she
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normally is like we can count on her. We're gonna get her all ready,
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she's gonna have her last bottle and then she's going to bed. She's
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done for the night. Well tonight, she's still calls her zombie baby because
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she just pops awake all of a sudden. You'll just be walking by and
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all of a sudden, she just eyes open. She decided to be a
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party animal. No, she wasn't ap pill, She just didn't want to
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go to sleep. So anyway, so she went to bed later because we
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were like, okay, we have to whatever happens, we have to record
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tonight. So here it is so here it is eleven pm. And man,
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we're not We're not late people anymore. You know, we got we
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got things, we got humans. So anyways, we went to the farmer's
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market. That was fun. There's just too many people though. We really
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got to do somebody. All these peoples do almost stepped in dog shit too.
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I know, you know what, and you know what, we love
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animals. We have animals just after having children. I don't know if anybody
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else can relate, but I have zero patients for I can't even imagine getting
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another dog right now, Like it's just too much. So then whenever I'm
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out in public and I almost step in dog crap, I'm like, why
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are you bringing your dog? I don't think I don't think people should have
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brought that. I would not have brought my dog to that. There is
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way too many people. There was no grass. It was very it was
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it just was not There are certain things when you have more space and everything,
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I'm one hundred percent bring the dog everything, but this was not the
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place like we pick up the dog crap, but it was it was like
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diarrhega. Anyways, not saying we we one hundred percent. I took my
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dogs all sorts of places, but this was just way overcrowded. We were
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almost like, why are you know it's like grass there? Yeah, there
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wasn't any grass or anything. It was actually probably actually you probably shouldn't have
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brought your dog because their palls were probably getting burned on the sidewalk. Be
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Yeah, it was all just parking lot and stuff. So the poor dog
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was just trying to find the one piece of grassticle and it was a hun
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and some degrees out there. Yeah. So anyways, but we went.
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We had we went late because we had to go cause we still managed to
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spend over one hundred bucks. We did what we did a fast and furious
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at the end because what happened was is you really need to go to those
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types of things, especially when you have children and strollers. You need to
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go right when they open. But the problem is we have little gym on
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Saturdays, so I take at the little gym at the little gym, and
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so I take him to the little gym. So then we had to go
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afterwards, and it was it was just too many people. But I have
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a bone to pick with the people at the little gym though. I'm gonna
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say this right now, there are roles at the little gym. You are
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the The children do not wear socks or shoes or anything like that. The
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parents, however, the adults are supposed to wear socks. You are supposed
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to wear socks. I am. I can't even like tell you, and
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I have the bitchiest face whenever I see someone walking there and they don't have
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their socks on. The adults, I don't want to see your nasty ass
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feet. I don't want them walking all over everything. That's gross. No
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it is. It's like being on an airplane and watching somebody take off their
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socks, and yes, it's disgusting. There was this one guy that he
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was there with his wife, and I'd seen his wife there. His wife
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had the socks on and stuff, but he's like came in with his like
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nasty ass slides. They were slides, I believe is what they call them,
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like when they're not flip flops. They got the band Anyways, he
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had some nasty feet, and I was just I couldn't help myself. I
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kept looking down his feet, and his wife like was looking at me.
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So I don't know. I feel like he had every intention of going into
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the little gym with his child. But I don't know if I judge you
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face because all of a sudden, because all of a sudden, she's like,
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she's like, Dad is gonna stay out here and just watch. But
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you know what, put some freaking socks on if you're wearing sandals. What
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I used to do if I couldn't, if I was like in a rush,
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and I just throw on my sandals. I always grabbed a pair of
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socks and I throw on them socks and I go into there because you are
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adults and we don't want to see your nasty feet at the little gym.
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This is my PSA, and they should be enforcement. That's the rules to
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that's the rules, and they don't enforce. I couldn't need some bail money
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one day and one Saturday and I go, I just go, like just
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off the handle on somebody not wearing socks at the little gym. But yes,
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all right, make sure I think we're gonna get a bail fun going
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through our Patreon. Yes, I think we can all agree. All right,
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nobody wants to see adult feet. Okay, well that's all. So
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we went to the farmer's market. Wow. So so just not interesting this
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week. You're small talk. It's not interesting. I know I had something
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I was going to talk about. I had something I was going to talk
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about that was interesting, but I forgot what it was. Wow, that
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was interesting, Yeah, so interesting? You forgot about it? It was
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no. I was like I always think about some I'm like, oh,
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I'll talk about that on the podcast, and then I don't take a note
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of it and then I forget. So here we are talking about little jibbs,
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and you got a planner and stuff to get your life together, and
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you, oh, yeah, I was gonna get my life together. Has
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something happened planner? Open sense? Yes I have. I got all fancy
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with it and I drew like a fourth of July thing and that was last
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week. Well we're doing this today because we need to stay on track.
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But okay, well anyways, all right, so let's just move on.
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all right, So okay, let's get into this case. Out of
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a out of a Kentucky, Yes, out of Kentucky. So William E.
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Bill Sparkman, Junior goes By. Bill was born in August twelfth,
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nineteen fifty eight, in Bartow, Florida. Maybe mispronounced that to William Senior
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and Henry Henri all right. He had two brothers, Thomas and Jonathan.
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Bill would go on to attend Florida Southern College in Lakeland, Florida, before
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going to Vanderbilt, where he would become a manager of the football team.
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He finished out his degree back in Florida at the un University of South Florida.
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Now after college, Bill decided to be a sports editors for his sports
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editor for his local hometown paper, the Mulberry Press. Bill was also the
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sports reporter, sports photographer, sports layout and even delivered papers to circulation boxes
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around town. I mean this was a small paper, so making subscriptions or
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something. You could wear a lot of hats at the Mulberry Press. I
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guess now. Bill was also spending his summers at Boy Scout Camp, where
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he was an Eagle Scout. Bill served three summers as the ecology director and
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two summers as program director. Bill then decided to enter the ranks of professional
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Scouting, serving twelve years in several councils, including a three year stint at
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the Associate Associate as the Associate National Director of the Order of the Arrow in
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Texas. So he's he's in. He's an adult boy Scout. We're just
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gonna We're gonna leave it there. What gotta have some adults in charge of
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the organization, Stewart. We just watched documentary on the Boy Scouts. It's
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best adults aren't involved. Okay, you might just want some Lord of the
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Fly stuff. Yes, the kids in charge. Maybe it might have gone
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better now many of them, Yes, probably now. Bill eventually moved to
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London, Kentucky, not London, England. He worked at the school for
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He worked at that school for nine years as a teaching assistant before going on
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to get his degree as a teacher online. Bill received his teaching degree for
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middle school math in two thousand and eight and while he was doing all this,
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he was battling non Hodgkin's lymphoma. Now Bill's words concerning his cancer,
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because he actually did the graduation speech at his online university, WGU, which
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I'm familiar with. Did you go to WGU? A in a panic?
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I got an accounting degree there? How's that working out for you the year?
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Or? Am I doing the taxes? I technically have an account degrees
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to along with a couple other degrees. Technically, no, you do have
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one not technically yes, I do have an accounting degree. I have a
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bachelor's degree in accounting. M. Well, you don't technically have a degree.
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I know I got it from WGU. It's a real university. Yes,
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I know. They sent me a diploma. It was a real university.
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Yeah, we're alumni together. It was it is still a university.
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It is. So he gave the well, WG wants to reach out to
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us about advertising opportunities. We're here for you. I'm like over here,
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like I don't even use your degree. I don't think I'm I'm trying to
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promote it and you're trying to downplay it. It was a great it's a
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great school. You get to do it at your own pace. You fate
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play a fat play A whoa, what's the Fredian slipt going on? There?
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You pay I know I've around a couple of pounds lately, but come
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on, you pay a flat fee per six month semester, and so how
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many of her classes you can get done in that time. I'm so not
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to do my own horn. But I did the entire program, but beat,
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I did the entire accounting program in a year, no, six months.
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I paid for one semester. I mean, keep in mind, I
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did already have two other degrees, so I did have all the other like
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prerequisites in all those based courses. So I just had to take the core
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accounting degrees. And my other degrees are math and science based, so there
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was overlapping. I have an engineering degree, okay, and instead of doing
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your your day job, you just studied for your No. I did my
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day job anyways, and then at nighttime I would just focus on accounting and
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then I got it all done. But anyways, he gave the speech there,
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and his speech he had because he had cancer and he did all these
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things and everything there, so they had him do the graduation speech, and
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he said I have been knocked down, but I refused to be knocked out.
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Now. While he was waiting to be brought on for as a full
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time teacher, he continued to work at the school, and that's when he
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started working for the Census. For some first a side of extra money on
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the side for extra money, not a side of extra many well on the
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side for extra money. I have an engineering degree, not an English degree,
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Steward. Okay, guess you cannot read. I cannot sure. This
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required him to go door to door, as we've all, I don't know,
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I know the census. Ever. Have you ever spoke to the census.
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They came by trying to get me one time. They wanted to talk
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to me. They left a note on the door. They were very persistent.
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There was kind of well, they have the power of the government behind
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them. They feel. My grandpa did the census one year. She was
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a census worker. You know, I think my mom might have done the
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census back when we were struggling as kids. When we were kids, might
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have been one of those extra we did the pay. She did the paper
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route too. I still remember getting up The smell of a bulk newspapers still
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makes me nauseous. We would get in the car at like the crack of
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dawn, obviously, because you have to deliver the paper, you know,
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right after it it's printed to thee. So they would show. She would
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go pick up the paper, she would bring bring I would ride with her
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in the Actually I think maybe what happened was no, she was delivering papers,
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but also later on my brother signed up to do a paper out and
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then stop doing it, so then she I have to like do that too.
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But I still remember sleeping in the back seat of the car, not
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in a seatbelt or anything, because it was early four or five o'clock in
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the morning, and that's and I would sleep on newspapers back there because she
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she'd get them like in the they were flat and you had to roll them,
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and so they'd all be in the back of the car and I'd just
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go back to sleep, and I could still that smell of the newspaper,
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like bulk newspaper. I would take the newspapers to all the newspaper delivery people
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and drop them off at their houses. Okay, well you were dropping them
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off at my mom. She would deliver them individually. Yeah, she did.
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The we threw them out the window. I'd bring the bulk bulk ones
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to the people that delivered and drop them off to them. No, she
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would get them, roll them up with it, and then had the big
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bag of rubber bands. You had to roll them yourself. And then they'd
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all be in the back seat of the car. And then I would sleep
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in the back seat of the car while she drove around and tossed him out
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the window. That was like when everybody got a newspaper. You know,
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I think everybody got a newspaper. No, I don't think. I don't
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even know if anybody delivers newspapers anymore. No, I mean I think they
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do, because when you go to a hotel, there's like newspapers delivered outside,
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like the walls drop the bulk off. But I don't think newspaper delivery
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people are I've never seen a newspaper delivery person ever. I mean in the
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recent years, if you deliver newspapers, please let us know. Now,
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he told friends and family while he was doing the census job, he was
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concerned for his safety. Now, there was no mention of Bill having a
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wife, but he did adopt a two year old son when he was in
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his thirties. I have some opinions about this, but I'm not gonna say
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them. What I just have some opinions, I'm not going to say them.
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Stu. I've just watched too many boy Scout documentaries. I just don't
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crime shows. Yeah, I just things aren't comfortable for me. I'm not
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saying anything, and I'm not asking questions. I'm just here. You're not
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just asking questions like Jesse the body that I'm not just asking questions, asking
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any questions. On September twelfth, two thousand and nine, a family was
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visiting the Hoskins Cemetery where ancestors of theirs were buried. Hoskins is an old
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cemetery dating back about one hundred and twenty five years. It's buried deep in
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the Daniel Boone National Force. So if you're visiting this cemetery, you're going
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there on purpose. You're not really gonna stumble. I guess you could stumble
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across it, but you basically got to know where it's at to go see
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it. Yeah, you're not on a trip like we've been on trips and
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we're like, oh that's a cool cemetery and you pop in, you know,
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yeah, just to see. You're not gonna pop into this one now.
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The family is walking to the gravesites when they come upon a naked man
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hanging from his neck by a rope. They immediately called nine to one one.
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Police arrived just after dark to find the man hanging with his hands and
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feet bound. I like how you just casually read over that, Like that's
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not how shocking is that. You're just there with your family to see some
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like, Oh, oh, great great Grandpa Terry's buried here, let's go
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check it out. And there's a naked man hanging from Harry. It'd probably
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be like or Jedediah is hanging from or someone's hanging from a rope from a
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tree. That's crazy naked. I gotta get your kink ons ownho, Stuart,
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I don't think it's a kink thing. Oh. Police arrived just after
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dark to find the man hanging there with his hands and feet bound. He
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was only wearing his socks. His eyeglasses were taped to his head along with
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an id badge. He also had the letters fed Fed written across his chest
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with a black marker of some sort. He was not completely off the ground.
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His feet were dragging kind of touching the ground. Upon initial inspection,
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they saw blood coming from his ears and from his mouth, which was gagged.
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This led investigators to believe that he had not died from the hanging,
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but was possibly bludging to death. When checking the badge taped to his head,
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they found it was a US Census worker badge and it said his name
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was William Sparkman. They were quickly able to identify him as fifty one year
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old Bill Sparkman. And about forty yards from where Bill was foundated his vehicle,
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which was a red pickup truck. Like we said, where Bill was
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found was deep in eastern Kentucky in the Appalachian area. It is very isolated
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and had a history of illegal activity. This included moonshine production, and they
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said they distributed to large cities like Chicago and things like that. So these
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are yes, there are no main roads passing through, so it's just a
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sparsely populated area, making it the perfect place for a murder to occur,
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or to dispose of a body or do something weird like hanging somebody in right,
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fed on their chest, tap to their face. Yeah, So it's
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just it's that kind of place and if someone probably saw you doing it out
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there, that lived out there. They wouldn't ask any questions and be like
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you do you don't go next to my dead bodies that I have in the
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basement. It's all good now. With the words fed written across his chest.
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This escal the investigation as it appeared that maybe Bill was targeted due to
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his work for the federal government. They immediately start to wonder if Bill had
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knocked on, you know, someone's door who was part of something illegal,
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and he was killed for it because being out there again, these people are
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not gonna take too kind law enforcement federal governments. Yeah, or well not
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even just they just want to be left alone. They're out there for a
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reason. I'm not gonna kill you if I ain't doing nothing wrong. You
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might. There's people that might. Oh there's people that do. They're untrusting
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of the government's due as they should be. You think, oh, yeah,
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we should not. We're going to got a knock at the door.
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Oh yeah, look like that meme that little kid sitting there. They're all
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wild. You don't have hair, I said, the meme of the little
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baby that I had said, you've been posting anti government stuff all day.
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And there's a knock at the door, and the little kids like, oh,
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yeah, it's a meme. I know you just you don't have any
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hair. Yeah, I do spots, it's not growing in the right areas,
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all right. So you know they're thinking like maybe he knocked on someone's
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door doing his census work, and they someone you know, did not like
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that. Joe dirt. Now. The area also had a massive increase in
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illegal drug activity over the last decade, and this caused more federal activity in
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the area, which again was not taken to very well. The people and
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living in those parts were untrusting of the government and were not shy about pulling
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a gun on a stranger showing up at their house, especially if it's some
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sort of government personnel. The first theories were that someone was trying to send
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a message to the government government about entering their territory. They like, don't
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count me and the census popping, don't count me, and the census come
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across my meth lab. And so for people that don't know that, maybe
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we do have people that live in other countries. The census is done every
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ten years, so the government sends out census workers and they physically go and
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knock on your door and they ask you a bunch of questions to try to
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drop off a question there and try and come back and get it. Yeah,
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it's the mail it out and if you don't send it back then they're
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knocking on it. That's what happened to me. I think they mailed me
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one. I never filled it out, and they were knocking on my door
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or leaving notes on my door. Yeah, I think, yeah, I
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think now, I'm sure probably by the next time they do the census,
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it'll be like sent you know, because they have access to your phone with
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sending out like Amber alerts and things like that, they probably have something there's
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like you can't use this iPhone until you fill out the census. Oh,
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they're going to lock you down digitally, shut off your social media. Probably
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you can't listen to bless this mess until you feel out your senses. Yeah.
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Fine, I don't want to hear them people anyway. Fine, they
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lost me with the little juice. It's lost time they suck anyway. As
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you can imagine, the shocking facts of this made it go straight to the
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now news. We got a federal worker found naked, hung and the word
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fed written across his chest. There was a frenzy around the case. However,
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upon closer examination of the body, there was no signs of struggle on
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Bill. There were no defensive wounds on his arms or where he had struggled,
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not to be taped up. When looking at the crime scene, they
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searched a three hundred foot radius and found no other tire tracks or footprints,
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indicating that another vehicle or person was there and drove off. When processing the
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truck, they found no other evidence of anyone else being in the vehicle,
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no fingerprints, and they found no blood or hairs. When processing the duct
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tape, they found no one else's skin, cells or hairs stuck to the
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tape, which someone could have been. Someone could have been wearing gloves,
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some latex gloves. I don't understand. Okay, So they're searching the area
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for the tire trucks and the footprints. I guess it was a wooded area
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though, so it'd be very difficult to find footprints, I would say,
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or even tire tracks. It was not like a dirt area. It was
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in a forest. Depends on how moist it is well, and also how
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long he'd been there. I think when they figured it out he had been
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there. I think it was he was killed on the ninth and they found
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him on the twelfth, I believe, so he'd been there three days,
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so the wind and weather could have rustled up the lead. I don't know
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how much it rains in Kentucky, never been, but in Louisiana in September
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it's all it's all over. It's rained once an afternoon a lot of times,
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and then like here, it's so dry it would have been blown away
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five minutes. There's very few I feel like there's very few places where you're
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gonna get those solid footprints and tire tracks more likely someplace in tire tracks in
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Louisiana for sure. All Right, So they looked into Bill's life and only
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found one relationship that seemed rocky, and that was his relationship with his nineteen
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year old adopted son, Josh. Josh had been in trouble with the law
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off and on, and he hadn't always got along with Bill, his adopted
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dad. I think the year before he might have gotten in trouble for some
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sort of illegal gun charge. So just a troubled kid, troubled ute.
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Yes, Bill's was said to be all about Josh, just you know,
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completely interested in his life, wanted to be around him, be involved and
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everything. However, that feeling was not mutual. Josh was very off standish.
25:36
Is that a word? Almost? Almost? How many grades are you
25:41
saying that I got three? But I've got I can get math? Shoot
25:45
maths real well? I do math, real good, real goodly. So
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Bill said, he so this feeling wasn't mutual. So definitely, it's like
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I'm definitely, You're definitely or what is the thing. It's like, I'm
26:03
definitely your best friend. But the feeling is not returned. So they need
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to talk to Josh obviously, but they are unable to track him down.
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Finally, a few days after Bill was discovered, Josh walks into the police
26:18
station to talk to them. He tells them that he did not kill his
26:22
father and that he did not know about the life insurance policy until after his
26:30
father had died, so he is coming out saying there might have been a
26:36
life insurance policy now during his interview, he was very cold and stand offish.
26:41
During the interview, which police took note of, Josh produced a note
26:45
while he was at the police station. He had been rummaging around in his
26:48
father's items and found a note that started with and I quote. If you
26:52
are reading this and you are snooping around, put it back with an exclamation
26:57
point. If something has happened to me, then you may continue. This
27:03
letter had all the information he would need in the event of Bill's death,
27:07
including a life insurance policy with Josh set to receive three hundred thousand dollars along
27:12
with another person named Lao loll Adams. Not Lao, it's Lowell. It's
27:18
just spelled funny. Anyways, Lowell was set to get three hundred thousand dollars
27:25
each, so both of them were going to get so six hundred thousand dollars
27:26
total. Now, this name was new to police, you know that it
27:32
hadn't came up before. Josh claimed to know nothing of the insurance policy prior
27:36
to finding that note after his father's death, but police found a new reason
27:40
to be suspicious of him and another person to investigate, because now they have
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motive, because that's quite a bit of money, especially if you're nineteen years
27:48
old, your run around getting picked up on gun charges. You know,
27:49
that's nice little chunkage. Yeah, that's gonna that could if you invested it
27:56
properly, could change your life, but I mean, he I wouldn't do
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the best things with it. Meanwhile, the autopsy came back showing that Bill
28:03
had died from asphyxiation, not bludgeoning. They also found something else that was
28:11
a little odd. Bill's hyoid bone was broken as to be expective because as
28:18
we know, when the hyoid bone is usually broken during like a strangulation or
28:22
something like that. And I learned that it's not actually attached to any other
28:26
bones. It's just floating around out there on It's their only bone in your
28:30
body that's not attached to other bones. So it's just floating around there on
28:34
the muscles right here. Just do you can't see. I'm pointing to my
28:41
neck, all right, and you can't see because this is an audio situation.
28:48
So anyway, so his hyoid bone was broken, and like I said,
28:52
that was they were completely expecting that. But it also showed two other
28:56
fracture points that were old and healing. Now this perplects the medical examiner,
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as Bill had no history in his medical file as to why this hywood bone
29:06
would have been broken and then healed. So it was broken in two places
29:10
that were clearly being like old wounds. Police spoke to Lowell Adams, and
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he told police that he was a friend of both Josh and Bill, but
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he had a fallen out with Josh. He had remained friends with Bill,
29:25
and he also told police that Bill had asked him to accompany him being Bill
29:30
on some of his trips for the Census, because he was afraid to go
29:34
alone. Yeah, and I will say it appeared that Lowell was closer to
29:40
Josh's age than Bill's. He was a younger guy. Lowell also said he
29:45
did accompany Bill. Lowell claimed to know nothing of the insurance policy or about
29:51
the death of Bill. He agreed to take a polygraph test, but when
29:56
he showed up on the day of the test, he changed his story completely.
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I'll just say that Bill Bill paid Lowell to go with him on his
30:04
senses stuff because he was scared, but I don't think them since his workers
30:08
were making that much money, so that had to take quite a bit out
30:12
of his Census paycheck. Yes, he told police that Bill told him one
30:18
time that he wanted to kill himself but wanted it to look like a murder,
30:23
and he asked Lowell to help him, but Lowell told police he refused
30:29
to do that. Lowell said he tried to talk Bill out of it,
30:33
and he told him that Bill had been practicing in his house on how to
30:37
hang himself, just casually practicing. Just that's how you make it. You
30:42
practice your friends, you practice your hanging. Lowell took the polygraph with his
30:48
news story and he passed. When investigators went to the home, they found
30:52
Marx and a rope on a beam that indicated that what Lowell was telling him
30:57
was true. Investigators continue to look into things, are starting to not add
31:03
ups to They're starting to look a little suspicious. Yes, so now they
31:08
know that Bill has been talking about killing himself and making it look like it
31:15
was a murder. He's been practicing his you know, killing himself. I
31:18
guess that's a thing. I don't know anyway, So then they start looking
31:22
at that writing on Bill's chest. So they bring in a forensic illustrator,
31:26
which is a thing, and examining the writing on Bill's chest. She found
31:30
that it was written starting from the bottom of the letters to the top based
31:34
on the pulling of the ink from the felt tip marker. Maybe because what
31:44
she was explaining like Okay, I don't think I needed a degree to figure
31:51
that out. Or you think that's University Arizona material, So I think it's
31:59
Arizona State as U. It's University of Arizona. I had a college class
32:05
there. Anyways, Oh you did well. We see where that took us.
32:10
It's the I think the Arizona schools i've heard are like party schools.
32:15
I think they are like Florida schools. I didn't actually attend the campus.
32:21
Yeah, they came to me, all right. So basically, when you
32:25
write, writing is normally done from the top to the bottom. So therefore,
32:30
when you write, you have a lighter pulling at the top, and
32:34
then when you get to the bottom of the letter, it pulls much more
32:37
because you're stopped for a second before you pick your pin up. Anyways,
32:42
it did not take a rocket signed. It wasn't like heart. It wasn't
32:46
like hard science to explain this. But anyways, but the point of it
32:52
is that all the that this showed that the person was writing upside down when
32:55
they were doing Although I practiced writing fed on my chest and I would have
33:00
started from the top and gone to the bottom, because you knew that they'd
33:04
have a forensic No, why would you do this? Everybody practiced writing fed
33:08
on your chest in the proper way is if somebody was writing it on you
33:13
so that they could read it. You'll see what I'm talking about. I
33:15
still would have gone. But to properly do it, you need to be
33:21
shirtless and use a sharpie to see if it actually works out that way.
33:24
Yes, and you need to definitely do it all right, So yeah,
33:32
take your shirts off, get out your felt tip, marker, sharpie,
33:42
black ink right fed to us. It would Oh god, it's get late.
33:53
I know I shouldn't let you drink. I did have a spicy margarita
34:00
or two anyways, and now because I didn't expect to be up this late,
34:05
like this is not good. So anyway, so they concluded that it
34:10
was starting to look like maybe this was all pointing to a setup. A
34:15
setup. What kind of setup? Now? Investigators believe that Bill Sparkman staged
34:22
his own murder while committing suicide, that he wrote fed on his chest at
34:27
home, which is why there was no marker found at the crime scene.
34:30
He then drove out to the woods undressed and then placed the rope around his
34:37
neck and then taped himself up as as as best he could, because it
34:43
wasn't like the best tape job. They believe he also taped his glasses on
34:46
his face since they would fall off and his hands would not be free and
34:51
he would not be able to see. Now, they believe his wait what,
34:55
I guess he wanted to just like I don't know, the world go
35:00
dark, I guess, and been good focus or something. I guess they
35:06
he I guess, well, because he's trying to do all this stuff and
35:07
he probably was like looking down to like tape up stuff, and his glasses
35:12
kept falling off, so he just taped him to his head like because he
35:15
still needed to tape his hands and feet and stuff like that. I don't
35:20
know why he kept the socks on though, that's such a that's such a
35:24
weird thing to do. It's probably because, you know what, he's hardcore.
35:29
He's like, fucking little this is full circle stoke, Little Jim rolls.
35:32
He's like, no, no, no, no, no, nobody
35:36
wants to find with my socks off. Nobody wants to see that. So
35:40
anyway, so he does all this stages his murder, and they believe his
35:44
motive was that he was afraid his cancer was gonna come back, and he
35:46
did not want to die a painful death, so he wanted to end it
35:50
on his own terms. But if he committed suicide, his family and friends
35:53
would not receive any death benefits, so he staged it. Please say say
35:58
the autopsy revealed that his cancer had not come back. Yeah. His family
36:05
never argued the police's conclusion. They never said, I don't think that he
36:09
did this, so I think they kind of knew he was. Well.
36:14
I think there's I guess he got the wrong insurance or he didn't have it
36:17
long enough. I think there's insurance that if you have it long enough and
36:21
you do commit suicide, it will pay out. Really, but you got
36:24
to have it, like for a couple of years or something. I don't
36:27
know, but he had a pretty large insurance policy for his salary as a
36:31
teacher, though. I just don't understand where he came with all this money.
36:36
He was a teacher's assistant in a small town in Kentucky, stew I
36:39
think he said teacher. Now he's a teacher's assistant. Yes, I said
36:43
he was a teacher assistant. He was waiting for you. No, No,
36:47
he was a teacher's assistant, and he was waiting. He got his
36:51
degree from WGU with me, and he was waiting to be promoted to teacher.
36:58
But he was a teacher's assistant. Where did all the money come from?
37:02
How was he able to afford two three hundred thousand dollars insurance policies?
37:07
Life insurance? Life insurance is not cheap, it's independent. A fifty one
37:13
year old with cancers too, could have been like three hundred dollars a month.
37:17
Possibly. Yeh, that's a love for teachers assistant. I'm just asking
37:22
questions. Okay, Oh now we're back to Jesse at the back. Now
37:27
I'm asking questions anyway, So that's our case. It was quite the term
37:31
for me because I didn't realize I thought it was. I was like,
37:35
man, this case is crazy. The guy had fed written across his chest,
37:38
He's naked hanging in a cemetery, like this is crazy plot twist.
37:43
Yeah, And so that was kind of shocking to me to find out that
37:46
it was actually a suicideaged So all right, well we're getting canceled. So
37:55
do you want to do what y'all need? Jesus? Would you like the
37:59
day one or would you like to mumble on about something else. Do you
38:02
have it ready to go? I do. I always have it ready to
38:06
go. Okay, I don't have it ready to go. Stewart, hang
38:14
on, hang on. It was just here. It was just here.
38:19
Okay, I'm ready whenever you're ready. Talking to your microphone, you're talking
38:23
to my microphone. I'm not talking to your microphone. Man uses funnel to
38:30
pour margarita down woman's butt? Was it spicy margarita? I like a spicy
38:38
margarita? Yes, you do what? Yeah? Everybody can hear you drink
38:45
spicy margarita too. Florida or not Florida? Not Florida at a Georgia restaurant
38:57
Florida adjacent it's basically Florida. Wow. Well, I don't know. I
39:01
don't know where a Waycross, Mexican restaurant is. We're coming to us from
39:06
a place called the Patch. By Megan Verheist July twelfth, twenty twenty four.
39:15
The couple was arrested after the video of the X rated stunt at a
39:20
Way Cross, Mexican restaurant went viral. According to multiple reports, a man
39:24
and a woman are facing charges after reports said the man attempted to use a
39:28
funnel to pour a margarita down the woman's butt. How was that X rated
39:34
because she had to pull her pants down? I know, but still let
39:37
me get there. Let me get there. That's what I usually tell you.
39:42
Let me get there. As they dined at a Mexican restaurant in South
39:46
Georgia. Joy Boy Yette and Mary Sweat Sweet were arrested this week for misdemeanor
39:53
public indecency after video of their X rated stunt went viral on social media.
40:00
Joy Boyyette, Joe Boyett a man and a woman, and all of a
40:07
sudden it was a lesbian couple. My witmen now fell on the lady.
40:13
The arrest came after Sweat called the police to complain about the video being leaked
40:17
online. The report said, how are you gonna commit a crime then call
40:23
in and say, hey, yeah, my crime has been leaked online and
40:27
I'm upset about it. There's your first mistake. The incident took place three
40:34
months ago inside a Rodeo, Mexican restaurant and waycross. Screen grabs of the
40:37
explicit Explicit Act published by multiple outlets, including in The New York Post,
40:44
showed a woman on all fours inside a restaurant booth as a man attempted to
40:50
use a funnel to pour a drink down her rear end. Hey, drunk
40:53
people do dumb shit. Was he trying to drink it from the other side?
40:58
I don't know what? Then? Can I finish? No? And
41:01
we might find out he didn't get to finish it didn't appear. When that
41:07
didn't work, he abandoned the funnel and poured it directly from a glass into
41:10
her butt. Wake Cross police told the TV station. The boy yet identified
41:16
himself as the man in the video, and a Facebook post he posted,
41:22
quote, this may be a good time to start selling content. Hit me
41:27
up for cash app he reportedly posted, he's trying to get some hawk ta
41:31
fame. Yeah, pretty much. He turned himself in on Monday, and
41:36
Sweat turned herself in a day later. Restaurant staff released a letter to patrons
41:40
on social media, slam in the act. We want to make it clear
41:44
that such behavior is completely unacceptable and does not reflect our values and mission to
41:50
provide family friendly dining. Did they really have to put a letter out?
41:54
I don't think that's acceptable behavior anywhere unless it's in your own home and you're
41:59
into that or whatever. I mean, I think it's fine, that's fine
42:01
activity down at the water Parker home, but just not in their restaurant.
42:06
Yes, So they go on to say, we continue blah blah, maintaining
42:08
high standards, YadA YadA in the story. So, mister Boyett and miss
42:14
Sweat, not even if you're going to commit to something like that, you
42:19
at least need to be committed to each other. Somebody had to go mop
42:22
that up somewhere. I just don't understand the purpose of it. I don't
42:28
either. I mean, I don't why would she get on all fours and
42:30
except that, all I was thinking is maybe he was laying underneath her,
42:32
and I don't know if he was trying to actually get it into the button.
42:38
God. Well, people say that if you know, put alcohol in
42:44
that and it will get you drunk faster because it'll absorb through your intestines really
42:49
quick and you'll get really dry. But okay, you can try that,
42:52
but just not at the Mexican restaurant. We try to eat our chips and
42:54
walk with our family, have a little margarita. We did go to a
42:59
Mexican restaurant through their day. Nobody was on all fours, poor and Margrete,
43:02
not that I'm aware of. I've never experienced it. And I sat
43:06
next to a man masturbating on the plane coming from Australia. I mean,
43:10
I've seen some things, but I've never seen I've never seen that. Anyways,
43:19
I've told that story before. Yes, well somebody might be listening new
43:22
tonight. Well they can just and I know that Hans and Franz were on
43:29
their guard. It was German anyways. All right, well that's our case
43:34
for this week, and check out the Patreon. I don't know about writing
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our review after this again, five stars. You can say the negative stuff
43:45
in the comments. I don't care what you say. Someone actually did that.
43:51
I don't think they did it because we said it. But they did
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put a five star and then told us how terrible we were. No,
43:58
which is all we're asking. No, they didn't tell us how terrible we
44:00
were, Well, they did kind of. I think they accidentally hit the
44:05
five stars. Did the one star? Yeah, well we've had good reviews
44:07
and I accidentally hit the three star before. It's like, what the hell
44:10
are you people doing? A fat thumb their their star review? Now,
44:15
the thing that I got out of this review. I'm gonna pull it up
44:19
live on the air. Oh God, what does it saying? It says
44:24
disappointing, misuse of talent. Oh so we have talent, So we have
44:30
talent. Five stars. Sassiness is humorous and entertaining. Condescension, disrespect,
44:39
and utter rudeness are not so much potential. But I cannot listen to the
44:45
verbal spousal mistreatment. I think that's a reference to me, you to me.
44:50
That comes from Route three March thirty twenty. But she did give us
44:52
five stars. She or it's a she Route three. Okay, No man
44:59
is getting on here and right miss as sass is enough. The sass is
45:05
is right, but the spousal abuse is too much. That was probably referenced
45:09
me. But that means I have talent, so you are me? Yeah?
45:15
All right, So check out our Patreon writer review five stars. Say
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I think? That's all? All right? Well what do I usually say?
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God see you next time? Buy everyone say, buys to tell you
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