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213: Raccoons Sound Off! Christine's Boob Job, Robyn's Girls, How The AUB Affected Meri, and More! · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here next week because it's Chris.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the first call? Who called in?
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  Speaker 1: Who called Mommy?
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  Speaker 2: First one we have is from Tina Bee, who I
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  Speaker 2: think has called before.
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  Speaker 1: She is definitely I love her name. I love Tina Bee.
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  Speaker 1: Reminds me of like some of those nineties music, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the bangers that I used to dance to in the nineties.
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  Speaker 1: About Tina Bee, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It's so great.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, this is Tina Bee from the Texas Stumpster and
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  Speaker 4: I just I just have to come on and tell
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  Speaker 4: you guys. I just watch episode thirteen, give Up the Ghost,
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  Speaker 4: and you know what, I am the same age as
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  Speaker 4: Mary in this episode. And here's my problem. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like I just lost forty two minutes of my life
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  Speaker 4: watching this.
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  Speaker 5: Stupid shit with wedding cakes, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 4: I don't care about wedding cakes and I really don't
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  Speaker 4: care about her wedding dress.
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  Speaker 3: So boring.
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  Speaker 1: I can't get that time back.
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  Speaker 6: You know, the clock is ticking.
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  Speaker 4: I can't get that time back.
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  Speaker 1: What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 2: I agree?
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't agree.
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  Speaker 2: Literally, we screamed about it every week.
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  Speaker 1: Every week, we're shouting into the void. We're sending up
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  Speaker 1: our lamentation. God is there is If there is a God, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: why God? Are you allowing this to happen?
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  Speaker 7: It's too much?
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  Speaker 2: And even with this week's episode with the freaking tacos
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  Speaker 2: and the spilling of the juice.
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  Speaker 1: On the with their picture on it, the.
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  Speaker 8: Fruit.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I nodded off there for a second because it's
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  Speaker 1: so far.
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  Speaker 2: It is so so bar Every episode they give us
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  Speaker 2: like little morsels, like just a little to hold us over,
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  Speaker 2: but the rest of it is just bullshit, and we
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  Speaker 2: keep watching.
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  Speaker 1: And they do it at the front load it. It's
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, so we have to
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  Speaker 1: like slog and wait way through to the fucking Christine content.
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  Speaker 1: Christine's laughing about something David and her are making out.
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  Speaker 1: It's like just to get to like the sit down
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  Speaker 1: with Mary and those random friends of hers to talk
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  Speaker 1: shit about Cody. That's what we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: A great Yeah, we agree with you, Tina B.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Yeah, no question about it, no question,
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  Speaker 1: no dissenting opinions on this Supreme Court. All right. Next
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  Speaker 1: time we have is from Alie.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, hi, Ali, Hey, It's Ali from Fort Worth, Texas.
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  Speaker 5: I have potentially a hot take on the last episode
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  Speaker 5: of Sister Wives, and I'm curious for your guys' thoughts
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  Speaker 5: on it. I actually really enjoyed the conversation that Robin
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  Speaker 5: had with her two daughters about church. Some of the
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  Speaker 5: other podcasters I listened to hated this conversation. They hated
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  Speaker 5: that the girls were talking to Robin about this. They
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  Speaker 5: thought that the girls were asking Robin for permission to
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  Speaker 5: go to church. I am not a Robin sympathizer by
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  Speaker 5: any means, but I actually found this conversation to be
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  Speaker 5: really intriguing. It must be kind of difficult to go
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  Speaker 5: to your mom and say, I know, we grew up polygamists.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really know if I want to be polygamists,
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  Speaker 5: I miss church. I want to try out new churches.
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  Speaker 5: I thought Robin handled the conversation well, and I also
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  Speaker 5: don't blame her when her daughter said, like, I want
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  Speaker 5: to find a boyfriend, you know, Robin said, Okay, go
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  Speaker 5: to church for the spiritual aspect of it. If you
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  Speaker 5: happen to find a boyfriend, great, but that's not the
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  Speaker 5: reason to go to church. Like, I didn't disagree with
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  Speaker 5: anything that Robin said. I can't believe I'm saying this,
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  Speaker 5: and I can't believe I'm sticking up for her right now.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm really curious you guys' thoughts on this because
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  Speaker 5: to me, it was actually the most interesting scene from
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  Speaker 5: Robin probably in like the last two years.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks definitely a hot take. Yeah, I mean, in theory,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been an interesting conversation if like rob
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  Speaker 2: and was genuine and if the scene wasn't like superscripted.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Robin was saying some like truthful things that
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  Speaker 2: were cool, like yeah, like we don't care if you're polygamous,
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  Speaker 2: it's fine, and like I want you guys to have
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  Speaker 2: a good relationship with God, like that's nice. In theory,
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  Speaker 2: if Robin wasn't a goblin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if this was an actual, real conversation, And let
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  Speaker 1: me just say, they are capable of having these conversations
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  Speaker 1: in earlier seasons. For example, when we met all those
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  Speaker 1: kids who escaped polygamy, we had some real conversations about
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  Speaker 1: those kids' lives and the Browns' perception of that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: these were interesting conversations. So I know that they're capable
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  Speaker 1: of not having to be totally scripted. But that, to me,
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  Speaker 1: was discussed previously. Those girls, they're not kids, those adult
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  Speaker 1: girls were told what to say, what to ask, Robin
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  Speaker 1: practiced how she was going to answer, and so it
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  Speaker 1: just rang as so hot to me and not real
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  Speaker 1: at all, And then they build upon it in the
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  Speaker 1: latest episode. Now we got to go out on a
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  Speaker 1: date and continue this conversation, which is a fake conversation
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  Speaker 1: about church and whatnot. And it's just like God, when
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  Speaker 1: you could be talking about real things. But let's just say, Beatrice,
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  Speaker 1: let's just say this was a real conversation. If this
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  Speaker 1: were a real conversation, I would be so deeply concerned
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  Speaker 1: about the mental health of those young women because why,
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  Speaker 1: at the age of I don't know, twenty three, twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Do you feel the need to ask
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  Speaker 1: your mommy whether you can go and find a boy
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  Speaker 1: to date, and or ask your mommy whether you can
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  Speaker 1: go to church? Like I don't know. But when I
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  Speaker 1: was eighteen years old, I was married, honey. And that's
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  Speaker 1: not to say that that was a good idea. It
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a good idea. Yet I was doing adult things.
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  Speaker 1: I was out of the house, I was getting jobs,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the workforce, I was meeting people. I
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  Speaker 1: was out there living my life. And that's what concerns
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  Speaker 1: me for Aurora and Brianna is that they seem so
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  Speaker 1: very sheltered, so very childlike at their age. I just
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  Speaker 1: remember you at that age, for example, like you had
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  Speaker 1: your shitstn't it together? You were out of college. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you were in your own apartment, you were gainfully employed,
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  Speaker 1: you were thinking about what you wanted for your future.
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  Speaker 1: You were making money, money moves, you were moving, you
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  Speaker 1: were reloking like you were doing shit. Not all of
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  Speaker 1: it was the best thing to do, but that's how
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  Speaker 1: you live and you learn. And these girls don't seem
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  Speaker 1: to be having the opportunity to do that right.
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  Speaker 2: Like they're still stuck at home, and I like, you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: like in theory, like if Robin was like an actual supportive,
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  Speaker 2: loving parent, Like if her kids just wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: at home because they love being at home, and like
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  Speaker 2: they have a good relationship with their mom and they
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  Speaker 2: can have these kinds of conversations with the with her,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different story, but like the way it comes off,
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  Speaker 2: even if it was a genuine conversation, does come off
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  Speaker 2: like they're asking for permission and asking for her final
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  Speaker 2: say on what they're going to do with their adult lives.
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  Speaker 2: And that's weird. It's really fucking weird, right, Like just
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  Speaker 2: go to church, just go fuck around, like go and
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  Speaker 2: have boyfriends. Like why do you have to ask your mom?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you have to even talk to her about it?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was dating people and I wasn't dull
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  Speaker 2: my mom hunt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And can I ask you a question like when
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  Speaker 1: you're that age, say you're twenty two, twenty three, aren't
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  Speaker 1: you starting to see your parents a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: clearly for the broken people that they are. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 1: and Cody and Robin are broken people for sure, And
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  Speaker 1: those girls are in a broken system and a broken
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  Speaker 1: family and so at that age. For me, maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: because I wasn't proximate. Maybe it's because I was out
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  Speaker 1: of the house, but I was seeing my dad pretty clearly,
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  Speaker 1: and I was seeing my mom pretty clearly. Now I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't feeling empowered enough to maybe confront them. But that's
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  Speaker 1: why I moved out of the house so I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to live with them. And it just feels to
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  Speaker 1: me like Aurora and Brianna don't even see their parents
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  Speaker 1: for the awful people that we all believe that they are.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was gonna say, it's definitely because they're
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  Speaker 2: still in the house, Like, so they're under the sphere
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  Speaker 2: of influence of Robin and Cody, so like they don't
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  Speaker 2: have a clear perspective on anything. They only have Cody
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  Speaker 2: and Robin's perspectives. If they moved out and started talking
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  Speaker 2: to some of the other Brown siblings and started getting
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  Speaker 2: other perspectives from people and started like thinking for themselves,
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  Speaker 2: then they could have the potential to see their parents
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  Speaker 2: for who they are. But I don't think they can
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  Speaker 2: when they're still stuck in the house and they're still
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  Speaker 2: calling Mommy and Daddy and like completely dependent on them
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  Speaker 2: and asking them for permission to go to church, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So when you were twenty two and twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: imagine yourself still living with your mom. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: that you still would have not been able to see
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  Speaker 1: her clearly?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 8: For sure?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think with you think you would have been
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  Speaker 1: still stuck?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh I mean I didn't. I didn't even see
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  Speaker 2: my family clearly until I got with your daughter. And
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  Speaker 2: it took a lot of time of like her talking
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  Speaker 2: to me about it and then her telling me, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you should probably go to therapy, like you should probably
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  Speaker 2: move out because it's probably not a good situation. And
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  Speaker 2: then it took me years after that to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I lived in because you don't have any
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  Speaker 2: other frame of reference, like, especially when you're young like you.
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  Speaker 2: That's the whole point of like going to college and
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  Speaker 2: like moving out is like to figure your own way,
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  Speaker 2: like develop your frontal globe, you know, like and learn
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  Speaker 2: to think for yourself and look at everything like, oh
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  Speaker 2: that was childhood, that was this blah blah blah. Those
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  Speaker 2: girls don't have that. They're still at home, like they're
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  Speaker 2: still influenced by Cody and Robin. So there's no way
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  Speaker 2: they see the situation like us.
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  Speaker 1: Right. So, in conclusion, Ali, I think that in theory,
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  Speaker 1: that would be a great conversation, Yeah, to watch and
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  Speaker 1: to digest if it were even remotely real. But I
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  Speaker 1: honestly feel like Cody and Robin are tap dancing for
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  Speaker 1: their lives. They're trying to create content that they think
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  Speaker 1: we want to see. They've been told, probably that they
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: need to let the cameras in the house more. They've
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  Speaker 1: been told, as evidenced in this latest episode, episode fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: that they've got to get out of the house and
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  Speaker 1: film some scenes like everybody else has to film. You
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  Speaker 1: guys got to do it too if you want to
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  Speaker 1: continue to be on this program. So this is their
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  Speaker 1: attempt to do that and deliver us some content that
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  Speaker 1: they think is going to be interesting. It's not, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's we can see right through it. Just like your
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  Speaker 1: fake argument in the snow outside of your house that
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  Speaker 1: was fake. We can tell that it's fake.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting. Take allie, thank you, Yes, you.
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  Speaker 1: Do appreciate you call it?
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  Speaker 3: Do you appreciate it? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: This next one we have is kind of juicy. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of juicy.
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  Speaker 1: It's juicy.
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  Speaker 2: It's an anonymous raccoon. It's about something that we are
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  Speaker 2: covering on Patreon currently, is the.
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  Speaker 1: One you told me about. Okay, So actually I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we should leave this on the general pot or
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube simply because it concerns some private information about
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  Speaker 2: Next next one we have is from Big by Dorothy Dorothy.
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  Speaker 9: Hello, Raccoons. I'm calling from Salem, Oregon. My name is Dorothy,
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  Speaker 9: and I wanted to let you know a couple of things.
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  Speaker 9: The first thing is that I heard that season nineteen
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  Speaker 9: was already in the can when Garrison died, and so
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  Speaker 9: the Christine wedding stuff is stuff from the cutting room
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  Speaker 9: floor from the wedding special, and they put it in
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  Speaker 9: as filler as they took out Garrison's scenes because I'm
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  Speaker 9: guessing that they were fighting with Cody and they, uh,
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  Speaker 9: it looked really bad and they decided to take it out,
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  Speaker 9: and so they had to, you know, supplement the season
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  Speaker 9: with Christine's business. The other thing is I've heard confirmation
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  Speaker 9: that Christine did get a boot job, and I heard
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  Speaker 9: that it was confirmed. I don't know where, I don't
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  Speaker 9: know how, but I thought those would be interesting tidbits
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  Speaker 9: that you would like to know. I love your show,
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  Speaker 9: Have a great day, take care, Merry Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: For that wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Christine got a boot job?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god? So before or after the wedding.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean her wedding dress ones. I
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  Speaker 2: mean they looked pretty nice. Maybe she just got like
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  Speaker 2: a lift. Maybe she didn't get like implants or anything.
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  Speaker 2: She just got a little.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like you know what, good for you bring
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  Speaker 1: the girls up a little high at her sexy life.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I love that look I've got. I had a boot job. Yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I tell everybody you had a lot of plastic surgery.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I've had a ton of plasters and I would like
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: to crowdsource some more. Yes, you can talk about that
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: in twit facelift wanted me to facelift. I got some
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: things I gotta do. You want to get a BBL? No,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I don't. You're the one pushing the BBL on.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Me because I think it'd be so funny.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I have a flat butt circa nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I love me, I loved me for me.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: You tell I want you to love me for me.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: No, but the first plastic surgery I ever got was
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: my Booby's honey. Oh yeah, yes, oh wow.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I believe in plastic surgery. I mean before it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: If it makes you feel better, if it's well appointed, yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: unless you're gonna be like Darciane Stacey it makes me like.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: A monster, then absolutely. If it's tasteful, it's fantastic. Yeah,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not about it anyways. So, besides Christine getting a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: boop job, which is great, what was the previous thing about.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: About season nineteen being in the can and that all
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: of the Christina David stuff is filler because they're using
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: that to fill in all of the Garrison stuff, Which
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, if that's true, then damn there was a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: lot of Garrison footage. But I'm like, you know, I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: of two minds. I'm like, if the family wanted to,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I just not have that aired on season nineteen because
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: of the tragedy of his death. I get it, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I respect it, But at the same time, I'm like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the right decision to just
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: kind of not acknowledge him and like edit him out
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: of the footage. Like I've been seeing people on Reddit say,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: like at some of the parties like Savannah's graduation party
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, like that Garrison was probably in
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: those scenes and they've just like cut out a lot
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of the footage, And I'm like, that's sad.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Why would you ever do that. I don't get it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Well, but here's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. If they
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: are removing footage of Garrison, especially if that footage contains
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: arguments and problems that Garrison is having with Cody, I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: wonder if it's actually TLC that is mandating this. Oh,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: because if we recall the night that Garrison passed, he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was texting with production and the feel in the vibe
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of that was that he was taking them to task.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He's talking to them. It sounds like he had people
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: that he felt close enough too on the production stuff
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that he could talk to well. He was talking about
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: like what a shitty situation this was. I don't know
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: if there was a little bit of an aspect of
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: blame toward production at that time. But if I'm TLC
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm just a capitalist, corporate, monstrous entity and I'm
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: trying to preserve liability. I might want to get rid
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of all evidence that Garrison was unhappy or potentially leaning
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: on substances or being dysfunctional in any way if it
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: can be tied back and connected to his childhood, get
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: his exposure on TLC.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Right, because I think he had said something like to
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the producers, like, I can't hate you guys for sharing
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the good times, because like I miss those times. So
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I wonder if he was like saying shit in his
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: interstitials and maybe they just didn't think it would lead
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to his tragic death. I don't know, but like I
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: could see that, I could see it being mandated by TLC.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I could also see it being mandated by the family
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: by the family because they just don't want to have
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: any of that negativity surrounding it, like after it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So we're just gonna go through an entire season, just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: not talking a long season at that, and we're never
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: gonna see Garrison. And then what we've been told as
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: an audience is that they are going to address it
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: this season. So they're just gonna like have fifteen minutes
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of the last episode where they talk
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: about this is dedicated. This whole season is dedicated to
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Garrison and give it like a date and then that's it. Like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that's what I feel they're going to do. There's not
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: going to be any substantive, substantive conversation with Cody and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Janelle and the rest of the family about Garrison. There's
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: certainly not going to be any interview with Maddie asking
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: her how she feels about this, Right, there's not going
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to be anything gritty, raw and real. It's just going
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to be something trivial like that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they did address it at the very
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: beginning of the season with that one tiny little blurb
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: on episode one.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: God, like, they can't.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: They can't.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, if that's all it is, it can't be.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: That's not been fourteen episodes.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So tasteless and awful. If that was all that, it
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: was Jesus crackers.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And didn't I see something on Reddit that said this
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: season is going to be like twenty nine episodes or
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: some shit like that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Rush your mouth, hush speaking cursed saying I don't to
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: do that. You're hexing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Look, I don't want it to be that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, if this is a long ast season
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: like that, there's nothing. I mean, you gotta at least
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: talk about it in the tell all or something.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Stretching this season. Okay, keeping in mind season eighteen. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: last season was fourteen episodes, right, so we just hit fourteen.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: We are continuing on, like, how do you stretch out
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: this season by inserting all of this bullshit with Christine?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know this, Christine and David Footage don't and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: these random friends of Mary that are essentially saying the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over and over again, like, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Jesus patting it for all its worth for reals, it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: too much.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Agreed, But thank you for that interesting tip. Both of
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: those interesting tidbits, Dorothy, and Hi from Salem, Organ. I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: from there, all right?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Is that where the witches are from?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: No, Salem, Massatia different? Yeah, all right. Next one we
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: have is from Tony.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Tony, Hello raccoon from the Midwest here.
• 22:21
  Speaker 10: And I am listening to your recap of the episode
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: in which Robinson is down with Aura and Brihanna to
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: talk about joining a new church.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: And I had a thought, and I want to get
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: your opinion.
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: Do we think that in five ten years, when these
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: two young women are married and having children of their
• 22:40
  Speaker 10: own obviously marrying likely very conservative men.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Do we think they're going to come back and say.
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: Horrible things about Cody and Robin kind of like the
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: Dugger girls, Like I think it's Jill and Jessa. Maybe
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: I don't remember, not like abuse and neglect. But once
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: they're removed from the situation long enough.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And have the ability to.
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: Reconnect with some of their siblings, hopefully right in an
• 23:13
  Speaker 10: ideal world, are they going to say, wow, like we
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: were lied to and we didn't They may have spoiled
• 23:20
  Speaker 10: us because we lived in the McMansion obviously, but like
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: we didn't get any money from that, and now they're
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: not supportive of us and.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: All of the things.
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: Like do we think that there's still something in there
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: that's like redeemable in them?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Or are they going to be Mannie Robins?
• 23:38
  Speaker 10: And I hate to say that because I want to
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: see redemption in that.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: But you know, anyway, just wondering your thoughts.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Here comes the fake psychic prediction. Yeah, I think Dayton's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: already gone. I think Dayton sees through all of this.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I think he's a very intelligent person. I think there's
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a reason he's living in the RV if that's the case.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe there's also rumors that he's back in contact with
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: his father. David jessep right by the way, has been
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with I think leukemia or something of that nature.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I think Dayton's already on the way out. Of the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: two remaining girls Jessup girls, Aurora is I think the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: most likely to stay in lockstep with Robin. Brianna, on
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the other hand, she's just got some weird, mean girl
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: tendencies a little bit. If anybody was gonna meet like
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a tattooed, drug dealing Jesus loving dude, it's gonna be Brianna.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I just think there's something in her personality Brianna's that
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: is rebellious and she hasn't been able to express it yet,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: but it's in there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: It is in there, But it's whether or not, like
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: she finds a good person. I think, like if she
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: finds like a healthy relationship where they like go over
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to the house and they see what's happening and they
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: see the dynamic between these two fucking narcs and all
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the other children, and like if they've seen the show,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like they've seen like what's
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: happened and see Cody and Robin for who they are,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and they're able to tell the girls this and be like, Yo,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: your parents are fucked, Like you should probably move out
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and maybe you'll be able to see the situation for
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: what it is, Like have you even seen the show?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Have you even seen what's been happening like outside of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the perspective of your home, Like, maybe it can open
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: these girls up, like both of them. I think that
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: there's the potential, but they have to have like a
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: willing partner who's willing to like kind of take them
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: out of it and show them a whole new world
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: like Aladdin from fucking uh whatever that movie Aladdin is Aladdin,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Like you I got chat on the carpet of Like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: if they are able to find that, then yeah, there's potential.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: But if they stay in that house, m their frontal
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: lobes are almost developed, I mean, there's a point of
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: no return. In my opinion, I think.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: They're like the least likely out of all the siblings
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to come out and tell the truth, just because I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: think they are so sucked into Robin's orbit and they
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are so entrained to her way of thinking that it
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: would like really take some exposure to something totally different,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: some therapy, honey, in order to be liberated from that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So there's a chance, but I don't know, unlikely with
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Dayton again, I think it is probable that he already
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: sees it for what it is. I think there could
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: have been some kind of a confrontation between him and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Cody specifically, which caused him to be in the r V.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I think as soon as he has his brothers and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the ability, he's going to be out on his own
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: doing his own thing. I don't think though, I actually
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: don't see Dayton ever speaking out against them. Yeah, it
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be in his nature. But it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that Brianna one. I see it actually in her nature.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It anybody is going to, I hope so.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And it's like it brings up another question, like I
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: wonder what the dynamic is like in the house, Like
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: do they all fight with each other? Is there like
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: weird tension?
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: Sure?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Do Cody and Robin fight in front of them? Do
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the girls push back on anything? Like the girls just
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: seem like Robin's minions. And then we have Dayton just
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: in the camper. Yeah, and I mean he doesn't want
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to be on camera, so I don't know what's going
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: on there. Maybe he's smart, I mean maybe, or maybe
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: he's stuck in it too and he's just like, no,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: let me be in my camper playing games, you know
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: No, he got his whole as degree and he yes,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: he's credentialed, and I think he's got a job.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I feel hopeful for him. I just hope that he
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: gets out.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: That's the thing though, Like why is he on the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: property though?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: If he still is, they're moving, so I don't know
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: where he is.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, interesting thought. Thank you, Thank you
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: all right, Next one, I think we have two from
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: this same person. Her name is Victoria Laura.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: Okay, hey guys, this is Victoria Raccoon from New Jersey.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Love you guys so much. Thank you for listening to
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: my speak pipe. But I want to talk about how
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: and this week's preview for the December fifteenth episode, there's
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: a preview and Cody says Robin had this line of suitors.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: All these men wanted her, and Cody has always pushed
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: that these men wanted her, her and her Diesel jeans,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: how she's such a great person, and how he vetted
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: her to make sure she didn't leave a good man,
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: I personally think, and also sorry before I even get there,
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: the fact that now in twenty twenty three, at this case,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: when we're watching, he's like turned his back on the
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: community and kind of like fighting with the men of
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: the AUV that I think those men were telling him,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: do not get with her. She left her husband in
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: complete financial destitute, she took away his children. She's not
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: a good catch, and he's just like, no, no, no, she's amazing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: She looked well all look though, all the things she
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: has to offer me, Look how amazing she is. And
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's always been about that. He does not
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: give a crap what women say. This man is all
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: about what the guys say. He's doing it for the
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: male gaze. So I think, what's what's happening now. Also
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: why he's really like screwed the AUV is the men
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: turned around and said to him, you see, we told you,
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: we told you she was not good. Look, she cost
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: you all your wives, and because you were so obsessed
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: with her for some stupid reason, you lost your You know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: you was the main culprit of losing your wives. But
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: she was there too. I don't know what do you guys.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Think that's interesting to me?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Do we want to listen to her other one and respond?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: He ornyone respond to, responding that, well, I don't know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's interesting, like maybe the people in the
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: AUB knew Robin, maybe they knew her mom and like
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: how they handled polygamy and everything, like what went on there,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Like hm, I don't know. Maybe they were clocking Robin
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and telling Cody. And Cody's like been one to be rebellious, right,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Like he doesn't want to follow anybody. He like paves
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: his own way and it's always stupid and he's always
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: full of shit. So like maybe people were like, no, dude,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: she's a bad, bad chick. She's in it for the money.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: She left her husband and she's a piece of shit.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Don't go for her. And Cody's like, no, she's just
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: something about her we all locked us.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: She's so beautiful.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I don't think so, because I think if the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: AUB dissap approved of Robin, that would have gotten to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Christine and Mary and Janelle. And I think Christine being
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: an AUB princess and Mary being in it for life
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: would have taken that very seriously personally, and they would
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: have objected, objected, And I don't know. I mean, it
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: would seem to me that at the time, when they
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: were in Lehigh, they're trying to introduce another wife, it
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: would take three yeses in order to onboard Robin. So
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I guess that means Mary said yes and Christine said yes.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And so I just don't think that they would have
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: if there was an issue with their actual church that
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: they revered personally. I think Cody is entirely just that
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: shallow that he would see other dudes looking at Robin
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and think to himself with his puffed out chest, Yeah,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: if I can get her, what does that say about me?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And for whatever reason, and we can have conversations for
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: hours about this, But for whatever reason, he thought she
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: was hot shit, he thought she was special. He thought
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: like this, this is the end all be all, this
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: is my woman.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Right, Or maybe the AUB wasn't saying anything like she
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: was a bad chick, or maybe they were just like, oh,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: if you go public, because they talk about it this episode,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: like the AUB was super pissed at them for even
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: going public in the first place and said that this
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: would ruin your family and this would ruin the reputation
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of polygamy and blah blah blah. Maybe they were warning
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: him about that and warning him about onboarding this wife
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that he was completely infatuated with and being like, yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: this is gonna destroy your family, and Cody's like, nah,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: she's so amazing. She came in cap in hand.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Could I could see something like that happening. Maybe not
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: like the AEB completely disapproving, because you're right, maybe the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: other wives.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're complating that with the fact that at the
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: time that the family met Robin, there were rumors that
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: TLC was in town or they were producing this kind
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of show. This is why Robin was gravitating towards the Browns. Yeah,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: and so maybe that's mixed up with all of it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe the general warning from the AUB.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I could see it. Yeah, but you know, no matter
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: how many times Cody said, is that there's all these
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: suitors just looking at Robin. Sure, babe, I listen, let
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: me nobody's.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Take on this woman and her of seventy thousand dollars
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Victoria's secret debt. I understand it's not all Victoria's secret.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I don't even know that it's seventy thous I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: it's thirty thousand. But let me take this woman in
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: all her debt and all her kids. Yeah, no, I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think there's a lot of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: guys out there that we're looking for that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: No way, But what do I know.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not in Utah culture.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: No, right, all right, next one she has Okay, do you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: Guys think that Robin and Cody both have separate secret
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: bank accounts? You would think that after the last three
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: years of their life, Cody particularly would want to have
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: money set aside that is exclusively as his, you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: no one has access to it. But then also Robin,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: from the way the other wives have been treated that
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: even though you are whive number one Diesel Jean wearing
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: Dickensian Village having, you know, Queen of the Mountain would
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: have a separate bank account. You know, I would like
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: if I was Robin Ivy, thinking he left these women
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: with nothing, he could do the same to me. And
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: then also because she knows how he is when he
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: comes to business, or maybe she doesn't, maybe she's that ignorant.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I'm hoping it's that she does. And if she left him,
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: he would squander away the money before she's able to
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: get the hands on it, and then never works so
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: he never has to pay child support or if he
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: has to pay childsport, it be twenty dollars. So now she,
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: after not working for over ten years, will have to
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: get a job. Good lord to her co workers.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: I don't know, guys, what do you think?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Huh? So I can see Cody completely trusting Robin and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: not having any secret accounts. I think Cody looks at
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Robin as end game. This is long view, sure together
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: until we die. Conversely, I can see Robin with a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: secret bank account. I can see her tucking money away
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: every time they have a paycheck or whatever, putting some
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: money into her account and squirreling it away. First and foremost,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: because she's driven by money, that's in her nature and
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: she just wants some for herself no matter what. She
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to share it. Second, because she orchestrated and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: was a part of this huge fraud against these other women.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: She knows exactly how Cody operates, and I would dare
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: say she's the one who turned his neck and she's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the one who put him up to it. So even
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: though I believe it was her who orchestrated the whole thing,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: she knows that he went along with it, and she
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: knows that he's capable of icing out his children and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: his wives, and so if at some point they are
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: at an impasse in their own relationship, she knows he's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: capable of it. And so you'd have to be dumb
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: actually not to have your own account or to be
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: relying on a man like that. Well, I don't know.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I think she's dumb. I don't think she would have
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a secret bank account, because maybe she was banking on
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the wives all staying and her master plan working out
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: where she's still the favorite wife, but everybody's still contributing
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: to this family pot that her and Cody are siphoning
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: money off from and they live their dream on Coyote Pass,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: still stealing money. Could you imagine if she just decided
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to leave him and she's like, oh, I have all
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: this money and this secret account.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I would love it. Oh my god, I would love it.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: What would he do? What do you think he would do?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Let's just talk it. Let's talk that out. Like if
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Robin left him and took everything, Oh my god, what
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: would happen to Cody? What's the first thing he would do?
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: My god, he would be a rage monster.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Because Robin's his one and only, his soulmate.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: He's saying in this week's episode like, I don't want
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: anybody to take you away like you've got me, I've
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: got you type of a thing. So he would be
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: devastated for one. For two he'd be like, what the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: fuck am I gonna do? And then for three, I
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: think he would totally try to screw her over because
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: how dare you leave the patrinriarch? How dare you leave me?
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: And all this? Oh. I think the first thing he
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: would do is drive to Parowan. I think he would
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: drive to Parewan. And I think he would try to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: endear himself to Mary, and I think he would also
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: try and endear himself to Janelle, which is stupid because
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I think Janelle, out of everybody, is the strongest, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: she'd be like, absolutely not kick rocks. I think in
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: lieu of that, he would try to create new relationships
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: with his existing children outside of his union with Robin,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Like he would get in touch with Hunter, he would
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: get in touch with Maddie. He would try to start
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: up these relationships again as a means to access those women. Oh,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: so that he could have a place to live, or
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that he could have some sort of a retirement plan
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for himself, because let's face it, Mary is way more
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: successful in terms of her earning potential. Janelle is way
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: more successful in terms of her earning potential than Cody is.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: And he's old. Now he's got nothing because Robin in
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: this scenario, which we won't put on the vision board
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: because that's just bad. I mean, say it happened. Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So in this scenario, if he's got nothing, or if
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: he's got very little and it's not going to sustain
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: him for long, I can totally see him trying to
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: get back with these ladies.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one who might take him back is Mary.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. She probably would. She probably was, especially
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: if he came to her and said all the right things, yes, yes,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: unless she finds somebody who's touched her cookie yes better
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: than Cody ever has, and then she's like, what I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: want you and your noodle.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Like we would hope for that for real. But don't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you think he tried it? Oh?
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Tottally, especially if Mary's still single yep and sad yep.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, thank you.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: For those messages, Victoria. Very interesting questions, all right, last
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: one we have is from our raccoon and adoration. That's
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: what they put is their.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Own raccoon in adoration.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: Like hey, B and D, I'm gonna take one last
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: shot at recording this because they're a little bit of
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: deep plots, So prepare self. This might not be the
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: funniest thing to listen to, But basically my take on
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: Mary and her child like demeanor with Cody and Robin
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: and her willingness to portray herself is based in some
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: background on the AUB. So I think the au B
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: conditions children from a young age to rely on sources
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: outside of themselves to answer the question am I good enough?
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: Am I okay? And am I doing the right thing?
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: A lot of high demand religions will do this, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: so basically you're supposed to look to your parents and
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: your religious leaders for the answers to those questions. You know, obey,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: I fought your father and mother and be listening to
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: God through your religious leaders. And then as you get
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: older and you get married, that's true, that duty the
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: person who answers that those questions, that source gets transferred
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: to your husband. He is the man of God, he
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: is the priest, he's leading your family. Well, if that
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: man then chooses multiple wives and respects and reviews them
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: more than any elf, that same energy gets put onto her.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: You're looking to them less like equal partners where you're
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: supposed to be making decisions with, and more like a
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: child to your parents. And this need that has been
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: created inside of you for external validation is so great
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: that it will often lead you to betraying yourself and others,
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: even when it benefits you nothing, because you need that
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: acceptance and approval. And I think that is why Mary does.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Which Wow, I agree.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's a very deep thought and very I think
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: that's totally accurate, Like, especially from the religious aspect of it,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: like honor your mother and father, honor God, like look
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to God for all of your answers, which it you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: it's like a double edged sword, like because you do
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: end up like losing yourself, especially in these high control
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: religions where you aren't really a person, like you're just
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: like a follower of like whatever this doctrine is. So
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I could see that for Mary maybe that's why she
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: does the worthy up thing, because she has no self worth,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: because she does see herself as somebody worthy of like
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: making her own decisions or like having feelings or taking
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: charge of her own life.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a powerful observation to me, you know,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: And it really runs counter to what Christ even talked about,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: which is the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. Yeah,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you know. And I think Isaiah Ezekiel says, come let
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: us reason together. God is saying, come you and me,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: let's just talk about this. And religion really does seek
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: to require you to venerate and adhere to outside sources
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in order to gather your wisdom, your experience, and your
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: concept of self for sure. And so if Mary has
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: been habituated to the practice of this, like growing up
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: as a child in Ldsaub being told that this is
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: what she's got to do, and so she's just in
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the practice of always doing that. Like you can see
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: how even at the age of fifty two, fifty three,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: fifty four, she is still struggling to figure out how
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to do that. She creates this this company, this project
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: worthy Up almost as like something she can project out upon.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Like all of these things she wants to create and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: feel within herself, right, but she doesn't know how to
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: generate that inside of herself. So she's creating this system
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: which has all of the the I don't want to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to diminish it too much. But like
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: all the buzzwords and all of the things all the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: modern day in supposed speak and such like, from a
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: good intention, from a real seeking within herself to validate
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in a firm herself. But like she doesn't know how
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to do it, and stead she's doing it, she's still
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: doing it outside of herself. Uh huh.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, she did that interview that I talked about
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in a recap where she did it with Entertainment Weekly
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever. She did kind of mention worthy of and
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: like what she does with it, And she said in
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: her own words that all she does is like share
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: stories about what she does to worthy herself up to
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: hopefully help other people do the same. So she's not
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: really like giving probably life changing advice to these people,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Like she's just kind of, like you said, projecting her
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: own stuff onto other people. Like yes, what And I'm like,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: look at me, I've worthy up. It's like no, I
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: mean this takes years of practice, Like when you have
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: no self worth because you've just given it up to
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: like these figures of authority or these people that you're
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: told should make decisions for you, Like you're depleting yourself
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: of your autonomy and like you're independence, so like you
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: don't have any worse. That's why she's that's why she's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: doing worthy up. And it's actually very sad now that
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: we're kind of talking about it, I feel bad for
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: calling her kind of pathetic.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Couple episodes. All these things can be true, though.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: But it's like, I mean, God, like get some real
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: therapy and like figure out, like a deconstruct all of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Like she's not willing to do that. I mean,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: especially if she's going to the church leaders to get
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: a release from this marriage, like she's still entrenched in
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the faith. She's still in entrenched in this behavior. And
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: it's like even with her friends, like having her friends
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: talk for her because she doesn't have the confidence to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: do it herself.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It's really sad, you know, And I think that we
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: need to kind of get away from this idea that
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: somebody or something out there possesses the truth about us
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and or that it's not okay to not know, like
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: not all who wander or lost, Like sometimes we're spending
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: time not knowing in order to sort of arrive at
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it at the right time. Like it's okay to be
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: a complete seeker. And I would tell you that as
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: somebody who was involved in evangelical Christianity. I was a missionary,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I was a worship leader, I was a Bible study teacher.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I was doing the whole thing, Honey. When I unplugged
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: from the system of that, it was the most frightening
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: period of time in my life because up until that
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: point it was all I knew and I depended upon it,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and like the God of my life was attached to it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, I'm walking away from that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Who am I now? Who is God? Is even there
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: for me? Like why do I do? I don't know
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: who I am? What I should be doing? So it
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was a really frightening time. But I spent a few
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: years just exploring, reading books, different religions, different faiths until
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I cobbled together something that worked for me. And actually
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Cody's spoke to that a little bit in this week's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: episode when he's talking about like the challenges I found
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: in religion caused me to seek out the answers with God.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: And so through my relationship with God, I was able
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to find those answers. And that's what I want for
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: my kids. That's actually, that's a really that's a really
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: high vibe statement that it really actually resonates with me.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I just I don't trust him as the messenger and
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the narrator there. But it's through the wandering and the
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: not knowing that you actually discover it as who it
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is that you are. And so I would worry about
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: somebody like Mary being afraid to wander and not know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: like setting herself up and putting herself out as an authority,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: even if she's just sharing her stories. Still she's putting
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: herself out is somewhat of an authority and or an
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: expert leading people on a certain path. Like when you
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: don't know who it is that you are, you ought
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to not be doing that. Fact, you should be waiting,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you should be getting therapy, you should be getting mentorship,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: you should be going through a process. Honey.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like how she talked about like Mary's
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: kind of childlike in that, like not so much like
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: you know, a little baby child, but like in her soul,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: like a little like you're still wandering, You're still trying
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to figure your shit out, even at fifty five. Like
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: everybody can go through these different like periods in their life.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Like you know, it's just it sucks, because like I
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: want Mary to get to that point of like complete empowerment.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: She's confident, Maybe she's deconstructed completely from the aub and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: this fundamentalist religion. She's like figured out herself. She's worthied up,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and I really really hope for that for her. Maybe
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: that's what we're seeing, Like maybe she is kind of
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: going through this wandering phase of like this worthy up
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: stuff and trying to do something good and kind of
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: like not the best.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Way, but she's still attached to an identity, right it. Yeah, Like, actually,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: when you become truly spiritual, not that I'm an expert,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: but if your ego and your identity has nothing to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: do with that, exactly becomes almost completely experiential or like
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: what you experience and what you know to be true
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: on a soul level. But she could be deconstructing that maybe,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and this could be a part of her process of deconstructing. Right,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So I do have compassion and I feel for her
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: in that way. So thank you. What was her name,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Raccoon and adoration, Raccoon and Ada. Thank you for just
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: mentioning that. Thank you, and it kind of helps me
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to access a little bit more grace for miss Mary too. Yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate that perspective.
• 46:30
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• 48:37
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