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Is the medical system legally killing patients? · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  You are joining us at the Nurses Report.
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  I'm your host, Nurse Gail McCray.
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  And as per the usual, I'm on another one of my soapboxes.
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  And this time it's about the hospital protocols.
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  This was the first thing that deeply caught my attention when I was just a regular old nurse working for Kaiser in California.
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  I had two kids at home.
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  My husband was a civil engineer running 60 million dollar projects.
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  We were just a normal family.
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  And I was just doing every all the normal things that American families do, running a household, hook cooking homemade bread, going down to the river on the weekends, and uh trying to do what I could to protect my community in the hospital.
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  And then I had a my experiences in the hospital, opened my eyes wide open to the corruption of COVID.
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  In addition to what I was witnessing firsthand, I was also in graduate school and I had my hands all over the data.
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  There was no hiding my eyes from the truth of what was going down in the hospitals during the COVID pandemic.
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  And so uh with that deep and very challenging and very traumatizing experience of facing the truth uh that I was put put into, I was forced to face the truth that I was working in an industry that was being run by uh big money interests who were there to monetize the life of my patients.
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  And uh that led me to where I am today as a whistleblower hosting this show, and so happily to invite people like Scott Shurra onto my show today.
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  Scott is the father of Grace, he is the survived family of the 19, 18-year-old girl who passed away uh after horrendous hospital pedal calls.
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  Uh they went to court over the uh hospital protocols that were used to uh end her life.
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  And uh now Scott has written a book.
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  I am so excited for this book.
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  I want everyone in the country to read this book because until you understand what happened from the family's perspective and from the healthcare providers' perspective, from the people who are not afraid to go against the mainstream uh agendas that are pushed in the media, you're not really gonna understand the truth.
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  So that's why I'm bringing Scott on here today to help us to help you understand more of the truth and uh to uh do that.
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  We have all kinds of tools at our uh disposal.
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  So with that introduction, Scott, um please uh give my audience a little bit more information about your background.
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  Who were you before and uh who did you become through your experience with your daughter in the hospital?
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  Yeah, well, before it was interesting, I was um you know, before Grace died, Grace had Down syndrome.
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  Um she had become uh really our focal point for our family, and she was a blast.
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  Uh, I had been systematically getting out of the business that I own since 2018.
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  I had been diagnosed with a heart disease in 2018, and um, with that diagnosis, I started turning over the business to my men.
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  Uh, so you know, it was before we took Grace to the hospital, was like, this is the best time ever.
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  Uh, because I was working, you know, not even half time, and so we had the freedom to do the things that it was just it was just a blast.
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  Uh, you know, me as a person, um because I was a business owner, I would say I I had a healthy distrust for the government for sure.
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  Um, but I always voted straight Republican.
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  That's just the way I did it.
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  I thought, well, this is the you know, it's interesting because I remember saying this to myself uh back then that well, it's just the lesser of two evils.
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  Well, now that I have um gotten to the other side of Grace's death, and I have invested over 4,000 hours researching what's going on, and uh not only do I see this as a physical agenda, it's also a spiritual agenda, and the lesser of two evil dialectics has become one of the main study points that I uh have researched since Grace's death.
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  Um Grace's death woke me up.
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  Uh so you know, beforehand, you know, like you said, you're just the typical American family.
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  I mean, we were chasing the American dream.
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  We had been successful at Tracy Chasing the American Dream.
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  So, you know, I was essentially retired and enjoying life.
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  I I really thought that, you know, in the next couple years we would just travel all the time because we could.
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  Um then all of a sudden, uh Grace died.
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  And that event.
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  I would have never thought I had the energy again.
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  I've started uh uh four different businesses from scratch, and that takes a lot of energy, but I was a lot younger then.
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  I'll be 63 years old in April, and uh I had to dig down deep one more time, and it's uh I've never worked so hard on something in my life, and of course we had the diversion of the lawsuit on top of it, which that was uh uh that was the most intense uh amount of work I've ever uh put into a project.
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  Uh the book, writing the book was fairly easy compared to the lawsuit because I've been a prolific writer since Grace died.
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  And so it was really taking all the things when God put on my heart to rate the book in August.
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  It was taking, okay.
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  Well, I really have everything.
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  It just how do you organize it into a book so that it flows?
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  And it didn't even start out as a book deal.
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  It started out as a substack.
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  And so it was this I thought, well, this is gonna be a real long substack that I'm gonna break into parts, and then um Margaret Aranda, uh, who's an MD.
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  I don't know if you know her, but I wanted to have an MD review my book or my my substack at that time uh because I wanted it to be technically right.
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  I don't want to make mistakes in my writing.
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  And so she reviewed it and said, Scott, this is a book.
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  Well, then all of a sudden, uh that's that's what happened.
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  But anyway, now uh, you know, so the before and after, uh, you know, I really just went along with the system.
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  Um but it with a distrust for it.
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  Now I see the system as completely evil.
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  Uh I see it as an arm of um what Satan uses to accomplish is accomplish the goal.
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  And you know, something that's on my heart that I don't share very often, but yeah, as I was thinking about our interview, uh, people often ask, you know, what was the motivation of taking Grace to the hospital?
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  And you know, the technical thing was we did not roll over to the government agenda.
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  We were following the less evil uh FLCC protocol.
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  And so we bought a pulse oximeter, started measuring Grace's oxygen, and uh we walked into the hospital at 88% oxygen with my daughter with a cold.
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  And if we would have just stayed been on oxygen, she'd be alive today.
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  But they suggested, hey, let's just check Grace into the hospital as a precautionary, put her on oxygen and steroid for three, four days, uh, and she'll be fine.
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  And if they would have only done that, Grace would be here.
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  But what motivated that?
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  Uh so what happened is uh October 1st of 2021.
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  Um my wife's name is Cindy, and Cindy, one of Cindy's cousins was getting married.
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  And so we had the invitation to the wedding.
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  We're gonna go to the wedding, and both Cindy and I said to ourselves, well, you know, Grace has got a cold.
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  Um, we'd better check her for COVID.
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  It's our civic duty to not spread COVID uh at the wedding.
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  So Cindy drove into town.
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  We live out in the country, she drives into town to Walgreens, get the COVID test, and Grace test is test positive for COVID.
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  So then we start the FLCC protocol.
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  And it why am I bringing this up?
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  Because we have uh, and this is the starting point or understanding where we're at as a country.
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  Our country has a culture of death.
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  And that culture of death is very subtle.
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  It's wrapped up in a satanic principle, a satanic principle called collectivism.
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  Yes, collectivism is integrated through the entire population.
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  So the specific term that I
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  Was relating how I I you know I didn't wouldn't have thought I was a collectivist, but they do this programming to us, right?
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  Um they program us, so our civic duty, civic duty is part of the collectivism mindset.
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  So the civic duty programming is the specific thing that caught me.
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  Uh, you know, and they have these traps for us, and if we're not awake to the traps, we get snagged into the traps.
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  You know, the uh, you know, another example of programming is we're programmed to believe that the Hippocratic Oath is first do no harm.
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  Well, it's not read it, it's not first do no harm.
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  Uh go back and and read the original version, you'll see it's an oath to four pagan gods.
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  You know, it's it's um, and then they're you know, their symbol is the catechist, two snakes around a pole.
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  I mean, they're telling us watch out for what we're doing, but we don't.
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  We just our fear of death keeps us blinded to what's plain to see once your eyes are open.
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  Right.
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  I'm here you asked you didn't really ask the I gave you an answer to a question you did asked, but you get you get all these for free today.
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  It's not just fear of death, it's also fear of ostracization.
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  That's right.
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  It's fear of uh um of rejection and losing uh the comfort of uh the acceptance of our peers and our communities.
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  I and then there's there's this other components of it uh that come you know in with ego and with um uh the last one is um victimhood.
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  Yes.
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  And and there's these there's these small components of our psyche that really I think have been indoctrinated into us through the school systems that lead us down these paths to get caught in these snares, and um, you know, it it's I feel that it's it's near impossible.
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  It's it's very difficult for people who to actually have the time to ask some of these questions and have some of these conversations about well, how does this happen and how did we get here?
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  You know, I I'm curious about specifically because I I would assume that my audience probably doesn't really know what the COVID protocols are.
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  So that might be the next um thing we could just quickly touch on like what are the COVID protocols and why do we believe you and I who've experienced this from two opposite perspectives, me as the health care provider and you as the family member of a patient in the hospital.
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  How have we come to understand that these COVID protocols are satanic?
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  They are uh designed to cause harm and death.
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  Um I know there are very specific things that uh that we know uh that have led us to that conclusion.
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  Well, I'll start with uh, yeah, that's a great question.
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  And uh, so how do I know?
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  Uh you know, I'm gonna zoom out a little bit because I have a biblical worldview.
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  Um, I believe that civil government is supposed to be under God.
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  Uh, and in that regard, civil government has a place um to implement God's law.
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  Uh that is not the way our civil government is operating today.
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  The civil government has uh replaced God, and so the state has become our God.
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  So it used to be God state, okay, uh, in that order, God is above the state, but the state has put themselves above God, and then we as a population have bought into that.
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  We just want the government to take care of us.
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  Way back in 1 Samuel chapter 8, the Israelites wanted a king.
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  This is two only 250 years after God parted the Red Sea and they wanted a king.
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  Uh, they uh went to Samuel the prophet and said to him, um, we want a king like all the other nations.
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  And so Samuel went to God frustrated, and God said, uh, just won't tell them you are going to become slaves.
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  Uh, you know, I'm paraphrasing, of course.
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  And so Samuel goes back to the people and says, hey, this is what God said, you're gonna be slaves.
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  And they said, we don't care, we want a king.
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  And so God said, give them their king.
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  Um, but don't come crying to me when it doesn't work out.
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  And that's where we're at.
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  I mean, we our king is um this government that we rely on, whether you're Democrat, Republican.
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  I mean, they're all in on it.
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  So don't be thinking the new HHS secretary is going to save us or anything.
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  That's it.
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  It's all BS, it's all designed as part of the false profit system.
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  So I start with that.
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  Okay, so then now we have um the uh a series of laws that were created, which you know, I shouldn't say laws, only God is lawful.
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  Uh a number of pieces of legislation that legalized our murder.
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  And so, how did they pull off COVID?
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  Uh it it was brilliant.
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  It was absolutely brilliant.
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  You know, most people are looking at, you know, they did this this trial below or this um uh agenda ahead of time and they worked it all out and all that.
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  Yeah, that's all true.
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  But I mean, it was a masterpiece that's been worked out over 120 years, and they uh 1905 was the first piece that which started the collectivism um lie in Jacobson versus Massachusetts, the Supreme Court case, but then the specifics to to pull this off, they had to create a system of where the medical bureaucracy controls health care.
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  So they did that first by Medicare in 1965, then the HHS department was born in 1980, then the Chevron Doctrine in 84 gave the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services complete control of the medical industrial complex.
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  So this has already been going on.
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  So then they started standards of care, like the standard of care for cancer is chemotherapy.
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  Uh, if you survive five years in one day on chemo, you're one of 2.1%.
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  97.9% of your peers are already gone.
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  Uh so these are so all of a sudden CMS is writing these standards of care uh with the insurance company's reimbursement codes that lock you in.
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  Uh then you know, simultaneous with that programming, and in you know, behind the scenes, so this is CMS behind the scenes, the the medical school people are being programmed with allopathic medicine, courtesy of the Rockefellers taking over the medical school uh curriculum.
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  Then on our end, we're programmed with things like uh the Hippocratic Oath.
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  Um, if you don't have insurance, you're a fool.
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  Um, you know, the the good companies provide Cadillac insurance.
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  We've got to have Obamacare, so the people that can everybody can afford health insurance.
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  We're programmed to believe that we're dummies if we don't have health insurance.
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  Okay, so all this programming is going on to get us to rely on what the medical system as an idol.
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  That's why I know it's demonic because the medical system has become an idol.
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  All right, so now let's get into COVID.
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  How you know you look at COVID.
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  So a specific quote.
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  So here's a this is the very first copy of the book.
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  Awesome.
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  So in the I'll just describe what I'm talking about with collectivism from Jacobson versus Massachusetts.
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  Uh so the justices sided with the state seven to two, and they wrote the rights of the individual in respect to his liberty may at times under the pressure of great dangers.
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  Remember that term, be subjected to such restraint to be enforced by reasonable regulations, another term, as the safety of the general public may demand.
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  So with COVID, we learned what that meant.
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  Great dangers was a virus that they uh created as a boogeyman.
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  Uh reasonable regulations become mask mandates and shot mandates, right?
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  All to do what?
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  To hasten the death and directly kill and maim millions of people, uh, just in our own country.
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  Not we're I'm not even talking about worldwide, just in our own country.
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  So this is all on purpose.
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  So then, you know, look at the details of what happened.
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  So now the HHS secretary, uh, remember this could have never happened without all these laws in place.
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  Can unilaterally declare a public health emergency.
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  So he did.
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  Yeah.
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  And then once a public health emergency is declared, there's a domino effect.
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  The uh the FDA declares uh certain countermeasures as the only ones you can use if you want to get directly paid by the government.
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  So uh we have these countermeasures, so most people are familiar with ventilators and remdesivir.
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  So now you get these countermeasures that if we use these, we get direct reimbursement.
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  But it's even worse than that because they upfront funded just in case.
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  So hospitals were advanced millions for their projected um COVID patients.
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  So then they're they're incentivized to test you to have a positive diagnosis for COVID, otherwise they lose that funding that they were advanced.
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  Uh so yeah, that's why I say it's demonic.
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  Right.
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  I'll add in there that we knew in about April of 2020 that the case fatality rate for COVID was hovering around one percent, which is equal to the annual influenza.
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  Now, that paper was released by a Stanford doctor, who's now the I believe the HHS secretary uh Dr.
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  I'm brain farting on his name right now, but uh Stanford Doctor, very highly regarded in his field, put out this data in April of 2020.
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  And they buried it.
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  That was when uh those emails came out about uh from Fauci that just that we just traced the the letters back between um uh from some of the Epstein files that Fauci wrote specifically to destroy this doctor through smears through media propaganda smears.
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  But um, you know, it was orchestrated.
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  Uh the breadcrumbs were all over the place.
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  There was intentional hiding of the truth.
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  Uh that that paper was really what shocked me out of compliance uh because I saw that data.
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  And I knew that this was not what we were being told.
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  Um, but again, for all of these people dealing with the fear of the propaganda of the situation, uh, all of these points that you're making, they get swept under the rug.
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  And it's almost like a I feel the spiritual and satanic um components of this because it's almost like they there's some kind of spell.
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  Um, some kind of psychological spell work that was done on the population to turn us away from the truth.
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  It was like through this massive uh fear uh agenda um and campaign, uh, that again, you know, it led you into that snare.
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  Um, as along with the rest of the world.
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  Uh so it's it is.
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  It was so craftily orchestrated.
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  It was um, you know, so you mentioned the April of 2020 paper.
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  Uh so you know, so they are already know because it's published already.
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  Well, then add in the Brooke Jackson lawsuit in January of 21.
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  So now they already know that the jab, their their jab is also exposed.
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  So now their viruses exposed and their jab is exposed as both fraudulent.
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  And yet they just keep marching forward.
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  And then you have the new king.
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  Remember, people want a new king.
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  Uh, and so now the new king has never retracted Operation Warp Speed, in fact, ran on it during the election and still brags about it that Operation Warp Speed saved the planet.
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  Well, it did from that um psychopath perspective.
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  Remember, the psychopath perspective is we don't have enough resources on the planet.
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  We have um so that means we have too many people.
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  Um blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  So, I mean, so from the psychopath perspective, Operation Warp Speed was a huge success.
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  Gosh.
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  It's really, it's really frightening to um imagine that there are people in this world who control this world that carry those perspectives.
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  And that's the hard part.
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  You know, I have family members like this where I praise them for their innocence and the goodness of their heart that leads them to believe that the government is looking after us.
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  But I don't have the luxury.
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  You and I don't have the luxury of being in that position because we have seen too much.
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  And when you choose to take an honest look at the truth, which you have done in this book of yours, uh, we discover when we have the courage to analyze that inconvenient truth that it is a satanic bail orchestrated evil agenda.
• 23:43
  I don't I don't like to push conclusions, but at the same time, it's like you said, you know, you look at the founding documents of the AMA and the Hippocratic Oath.
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  They're founded by evil Satan worshippers with an agenda to reduce the population.
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  And um, you know, their marching orders are clearly being put forth by uh evil uh bodies.
• 24:18
  Right on.
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  So um we're gonna go to a quick break, and we're gonna come back and really delve into this book and uh get some more details about uh how uh you're moving forward after all of these discoveries coming from a normal life into the crazy world of uh the spiritual realms that orchestrate over us.
• 24:44
  So we'll be right back after this break.
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  Welcome back to the Nurses Report with Nurse Gail McCray, being joined today by Scott Sherra, who is the family member and survivor, the father of Grace who uh passed away secondary to the COVID protocols back in 2021.
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  Is that correct, Scott?
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  That's that's right.
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  And as a nurse with firsthand experience with those protocols, it was very hard for me to acknowledge that what I was seeing was uh actually going on because we were withholding life-saving care and the life-saving care that I first witnessed that we were withholding was um high dose injectable steroids, which Dr.
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  Pierre Corey uh noted early on in 2020 uh in combination with a few other medications uh completely stopped the deaths from COVID.
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  I believe he had uh over a 99% success rate in curing COVID patients.
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  Uh that information was withheld and suppressed from the public, but nonetheless, I saw the truth.
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  And uh being in grad school, I was very um I was unable to deny that we were withholding that treatment.
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  And when I confronted doctors, why are we withholding high doses of steroids?
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  Uh there's a lab value called CRP.
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  That stands for C reactive protein.
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  That's a lab value that we assess in the hospital for patients who um are whose bodies are under great distress because it's a marker of inflammation, systemic inflammation.
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  And I had never seen CRP uh values as high as I'd seen in patients with COVID, and yet we were withholding high doses appropriate treatment.
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  Everyone in the healthcare field knows that the appropriate treatment for a high C reactive protein is high doses of steroids, and that treatment was being withheld while simultaneously we were administering a medication called REM desivere, which was an experimental drug that had over a 50% death rate in the clinical trials for Ebola.
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  They had repackaged it in lower dosage uh in order to administer it to COVID patients so that we wouldn't notice that the death rates were actually very high.
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  Um majority of the patients that I took care of in the hospital of COVID actually died from organ failure.
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  And uh that would have been secondary to rem desivere because that was the known side effect of Remdesivere in the clinical trials.
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  It caused renal failure and liver failure in uh majority of the patients who received it.
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  Uh and that was also what we saw in our COVID patients.
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  And Scott, I'm not sure uh if that is what uh got Grace in the end, but uh it was always the same.
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  We had um a lack of commun of uh family support, which everyone knows.
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  We have peer-reviewed studies going back to the 1960s that proves that the family support system is a primary contributing factor to the survival of a patient who's being hospitalized with a serious and acute condition.
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  And yet we withheld family support from our patients who are being hospitalized with coda COVID under the guise of we need to protect the community.
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  Now, as a healthcare provider who can go to work and get tested and wear a mask, my role is no more essential than my patient family members' role to protect and take care of that patient.
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  And so the fact that we withheld family members from hospital settings during the most vulnerable times in their lives was a crime.
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  And it can be very easily and clearly documented.
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  So Scott was telling us before the break about the way that they have orchestrated these systems to really create a death dynamic uh through the mindset and through the uh the development of the psychology of our societies.
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  And I've never heard that before.
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  I think it's an incredibly fascinating concept, and it really does uh ring true considering everything that I know about the medical field.
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  Um so with that being said, Scott, after the passing, uh your uh you took the hospital to court thinking I was thinking too that it was a no-brainer that of course you would win because of the high profile uh um witnesses that you had that were extremely uh proficient in their delivery of their testimonies with extraordinary evidence that the choices that were made by the hospital led to the death of your daughter.
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  Um but tell me a little bit more about that lawsuit and uh how that went down.
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  So this will seem a little strange to people, but I did go into the lawsuit eyes wide open.
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  So I'd had uh enough information to understand that the legal system is in bed with the medical system before we went in uh and knew that the odds were uh way in the defense's favor.
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  Not because they had better evidence or anything, it's just the programming, the programming of society.
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  So think about this is supposed to be a jury of your peers.
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  So just start with that.
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  You know, a jury of my peers would be people like you.
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  Well, then we would have won.
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  But if you have a jury of your peers, they're a cross-section of the population.
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  Uh so first of all, they can only be voting.
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  Uh, so they're voters, so they're already programmed to to participate in an evil system through voting.
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  Then if they're the cross-section holds true, 80% of them were triple jabbed.
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  One of the um jury members wore a mask for the entire trial.
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  Uh, you know, so this is just the typical cross-section of people.
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  Well, I mean, you and I are an anomaly compared to the population because we're awake.
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  Uh, so now you have uh a starting point where you're already behind the eight ball, which I knew that.
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  I mean, there's you know, the the purpose of the lawsuit um in you know, from a personal perspective, it would have been fantastic to win.
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  But that's not what we were called to do.
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  We are called to do the lawsuit, and you know, when I look at it from God's economy, the purpose of the lawsuit was to show what's going on behind the curtain.
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  And you know, we did that.
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  You know, praise God, it was live streamed.
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  Um, people saw you know, the people who understood what was going on, and even the people that didn't, you know, they've come up to me and said, I can't believe you lost.
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  And because they're, you know, they're just looking at it as the surface level.
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  They don't realize everything that's going on with a lawsuit.
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  And you know, there was one technical thing that did not go in our favor, but otherwise, everything went in our favor.
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  And the technical thing that didn't go in our favor is the judge denied our motions in Lemony in May.
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  Uh, that was during the pretrial.
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  And motions in liminy are the things that you don't want to have come in the trial.
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  So, as an example, the defense said that they did not want the word murder used in the trial, which is a reasonable request because it was not a murder trial.
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  It was a wrongful death trial.
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  Uh, when it came time to hear our motions in Lemony, the judge refused to hear one syllable.
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  Uh, he said all the plaintiffs' motions are denied.
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  And it's because he was he was pissed.
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  Uh, I filed a motion for a new trial because of that denial for motions in Lemini, and that was um not granted, it was denied.
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  Uh so what were our motions in Lemini about?
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  They were about my religious beliefs and the research that I've done since Grace's death.
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  Uh so why would we want that stuff to not be in the trial?
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  Because the jury is just you know, normal people.
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  And if they can paint me as a religious conspiracy nut, that is not going to be in our favor.
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  And you know, of course, the defense jumped on that and they did exactly that.
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  Not it's not their fault.
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  They were given they were given that card and they played it well.
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  Uh, you know, that said, uh, if I had to do the trial over again, knowing that we were going to lose, you know.
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  So what we did was we we had to change our trial strategy to um gently introduced the conspiracy stuff before the defense jumped on it.
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  Uh so my trial testimony, you know, I don't know if you you were you watched when I was on the stand, but I was able to explain uh what I did in the first half of of this show about you know how the HHS secretary unilaterally implements the public health emergency and then the COVID countermeasures and the $300,000 payday for a ventilator, all of that testimony stood unrefuted.
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  Uh so that was a great benefit of that situation.
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  But unfortunately, that paints me in a box that um the jurors don't like.
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  But you know, in a nutshell, I wrote up a slide as to what was the summary, and I'm just gonna read it on my other screen, so I'm just turn my head and read this.
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  Uh so what did the jury decide?
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  Uh the defense through their experts said that by being in a hospital, you're giving implied consent and that the drugs that euthanize Grace were normal in an ICU, so no informed consent is necessary.
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  Doctors informing the family is not even necessary for the two prior overdoses.
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  Grace was overdosed on precedex on October 7th and October 8th.
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  The third overdose on October 13th killed Grace.
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  Finally, their experts say stated that if a family
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  Does not pre-authorize a ventilator.
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  That's called DNI, do not intubate.
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  And DNI is the same as DNR.
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  And a doctor can unilaterally place a DNR on a patient without consent, without a witness, without a signature, and without a DNR bracelet.
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  So that's what the jury agreed with.
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  I mean, that is unreal when you you hear that for the first time.
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  You think, how is that even possible?
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  And you know, I I read some of the media reports after the trial, and um the basic consensus was you know, this trial has set a dangerous precedent.
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  And I completely disagree with that.
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  What the trial did was document decades of common practice.
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  Right.
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  This is nothing new.
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  What I shared is nothing new.
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  It just never got to jury trial before.
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  Um I want to just repeat that so the audience understands what the case lost on was the fact that the hospital has the right to overdose your loved ones and give them whatever things that are considered normal uh without your consent.
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  So um yeah, that's where we are.
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  That's where we are at.
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  Yeah, and so the case simply documented that reality.
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  And you know, what happens in a jury trial, and this should should also shock people.
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  And this is what I knew why we had such a low chance of winning, is because I mean, people watch Dr.
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  Bradein, and you know, when you know anybody would watch is thinking, okay, you guys won, it's over, right?
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  Um, but they brought in five medical experts.
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  Dr.
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  Bradine said about every single thing on the screen.
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  No, that's not right.
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  Every single thing he refuted, but yet they had five medical experts that said everything on the screen is right.
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  So now you got five against one.
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  And so the jury heard that repet that repetition of this is the standard of care over and over and over.
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  And you know, what should shock people is so this is how the legal system is in bed with the medical system, way before the prep act.
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  The standard of care is relative.
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  It's not a thing that you can just define, it's relative.
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  And if they can get enough experts, remember when you go up against Goliath, Goliath has 30 billion in cash in the case of our uh our jury trial, uh ascension hospital system is a Goliath.
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  Uh you know, they could spend whatever they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on their experts to all uniformly state what I just said on the screen, and the jury heard it five different times.
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  Wow, that's amazing.
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  So anyway, that's the the long and short of the trial.
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  I'm not, of course, not bitter about it.
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  I'm I'm uh super happy it's done.
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  Uh that trial um that was the hardest thing I've ever done.
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  I've started four businesses from scratch.
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  Um that trial was intense, not the trial, the trial was actually fun uh because we were well prepared.
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  I just I really enjoyed the trial, uh, but the preparation.
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  Um I worked preparing literally for so April 11th of 23 is when we filed the preparation started in December of uh 22.
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  Uh we filed in April of 23, and I was working about 25% of the trial on of my time was on the trial, um, up until four months before the trial, and then I worked a hundred percent, uh roughly 90 to 100 hours a week for four months um leading up to the trial.
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  And you know, it's because you know the attorneys, you know, the attorneys were fine, but the attorneys are never gonna know the case like you do.
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  Uh and so I was able to string it together and you know, put a chronology together, uh, cross-reference all of the depositions.
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  Um, you know, that's all necessary if you're gonna knock it out of the park in the courtroom.
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  Right.
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  So anyway, it was it wasn't the preparation was intense.
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  That thing, that trial took a lot out of me, I'll tell you that.
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  I aged, I aged a couple of years.
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  And so after that trial uh ended, that's when you wrote this book.
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  And the book is called um, let's see.
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  Go ahead.
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  Is the government legally killing us?
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  Is the government legally killing us?
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  And you know, of course, I know the answer to that, but the when the publisher, so I I self-published the book, but I have a friend of mine who's a publisher, and so I ran it by him first, and and he said, Well, it's not in my wheelhouse, but I'll help you self-publish.
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  And so the first draft of the cover, uh, the title was the government is legally killing us.
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  And of course, he said Scott, you know, if you put it in the form of a question, you're gonna sell more books.
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  So, you know, we've changed it into a into a question from a state and statement because I have uh the book itself was fairly easy to write because I've invested 4,000 hours researching this medical industrial complex.
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  Um so uh you know, writing it was a snap.
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  And I, you know, of course I knew the government is legally killing us, but then you know, assembling in a book is um you know, that was the first time I've ever written a book.
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  I never thought I would write a book.
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  Uh the book proves uh beyond a shadow of a doubt that the government has legalized medical murder, and it's by design and medical murder is the number one cause of death in America.
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  Uh 142,000 new medical murders every single month, right now.
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  Uh and I prove that in the book.
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  Um, the book is written from a very interesting perspective.
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  Um, because I wanted to use the book to get outside of the echo chamber.
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  And so when you read the book, um you're going to laugh.
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  Um, because there's there's stories about Grace in the book.
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  Uh, you're going to cry because of who Grace was.
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  I mean, she was an angel, and they killed an angel.
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  Um, so at the beginning of the book, you'll laugh and cry.
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  The very last chapter of the book, I walk through Grace's hospital stay, the last day, her last day on Earth, October 13th and 21 with all the medical records, bing bing bing bing bing.
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  And it it's like, oh, wow, this is a big deal.
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  But then between those two bookends, um, is where I have taken 4,000 hours of research and summarized it.
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  Um, so that the common person can see, yeah, this is right.
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  And I brought all the receipts.
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  Uh, that's why I want I have two subtitles.
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  Is the evidence obvious as a subtitle?
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  Uh, yes, it is obvious.
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  And I brought the receipts and the things that are not snipped in the book.
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  I put his end notes, uh, and then uh the second subtitle how the fear of death and the illusion of freedom turn us into accomplices to evil.
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  So that's our part.
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  You know, what we're sharing is throwing the medical industrial establishment under the bus, but we've all participated.
• 47:05
  Yes, uh, because of our desire for a king and this this whole idea of um uh fear of death, relying on doctors instead of doing the work, instead of doing the hard work, uh God says our people my people perish for lack of knowledge.
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  Well, we're lazy, and you know, so we rely on people who we are we think are experts, and we're fools for doing that.
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  And so my call at the end, it's a call to repentance at the end.
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  Um, because I think that's the only way out of this.
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  We have to acknowledge that we got here from rejecting God.
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  So consequently, the only way out of this nightmare is repentance.
• 47:44
  My hope is that um, you know, I you know, I met lots of people, and so I, you know, those those people, of course, are buying the book already, but my hope is that those people see it and say, Well, this was this was written from a gentle perspective, yet it's truthful, firm, all of those things, and I I believe they can pass it on to a relative or friend who's not awake, and it won't be too um, it won't be hitting them over the head with a club.
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  I think they can they'll see um what my goal is with the book, you know, just the simple thing, Gail is you know, I just don't want anybody else to lose their best buddy, and I think that comes through in the book, and uh so I think we can get some more people to understand and save their lives by sharing this.
• 48:34
  Yeah, that's the interesting position that we find ourselves in.
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  Uh, you and I in this place where um, you know, all of us who have been through these horrendous experiences, um, have really been rejected and demonized by the communities around us.
• 48:54
  And that's a really hard part about all of this is that just being able to recognize and acknowledge that humanity has and I think it's been like this, like you said, it has to do with the strength of the psyche and needing a king, you know.
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  We like Matthias Desmond talks about in with mass formation psychosis, is that you know, we always cling to what's normal and accepted in the community and reject anything that falls outside of that norms to our own detriment because we then lose the ability to learn and grow, and uh as you put it, the return to God, because that's really what it takes, right?
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  Analyzing um the truth of the situation and uh recognizing the failures of our system and then uh returning to.
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  To God through that recognition.
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  And it seems it seems we're still satisfied at this point in history with keeping our head under the rug for now.
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  But I do believe that your book and all of the work that you're doing is one of those drops in the bucket that will hopefully continue to reverberate out into the world around us and allow people to begin to really identify with the truth, which is that you and I are just regular people who were very deeply traumatized.
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  And out of that trauma comes the forced hand of action in our lives.
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  So you've cut you really met that calling on ways that very few have, Scott.
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  You have risen uh to every um to every pillar that was set before you along this journey in uh dealing with this situation.
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  And uh I uh can't wait to get and read your book.
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  I hope everyone else will too.
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  Um because the hospitals are after us, they're after our they're after our souls.
• 51:38
  I really think that it's just one of the many arms of the snake of the head of the snake, many many one of the many heads of the snake.
• 51:47
  That's right.
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  Yeah.
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  I'll give you an example example of how subtle this is.
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  Um you had mentioned in the first half about the AMA, which is American Medical Association.
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  So I'm gonna read from you the American Medical Association Code of Medical Ethics.
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  You're very familiar with this, section 2.1.1, informed consent.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh so I'm going to show you how they dupe us.
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  And so I'm just going to read this.
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  I have it right in front of me.
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  Informed consent to medical treatment is fundamental in both ethics and law.
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  Nothing wrong with that.
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  Patients have the right to receive information and ask questions.
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  Nothing wrong with that.
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  Here's the here's the language, and we're going to come back to this.
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  About recommended treatments.
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  So remember about recommended treatments so that they can make well considered decisions about care.
• 52:39
  So I was read the whole thing again.
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  Just focus on about recommended treatments.
• 52:44
  Informed consent to medical treatment is fundamental in both ethics and law.
• 52:48
  Patients have the right to receive information and ask questions about recommended treatments so that they can make well considered decisions about care.
• 52:56
  All right.
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  So if you're not used to what they do, you would think, well, this makes perfect sense.
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  What's the problem, Scott?
• 53:03
  The problem is about recommended care, because they can only make recommendations within the lines that the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services dictates are their standards of care.
• 53:16
  So they can't recommend, they can they can give you informed consent about chemotherapy, but they cannot give you informed consent about B17, uh, ivermectin.
• 53:28
  Um real cures for cancer.
• 53:32
  So while we so then what ends up happening, we unwittingly push for informed consent, and we're actually pushing for our own demise because we're not cutting off the head of the snake.
• 53:46
  We're we're in their trap pushing pushing for exactly what they want us to push for.
• 53:53
  Uh and this is how this is how um deceptive this whole setup is.
• 53:59
  Uh during COVID, I saw, you know, I'm Down syndrome is near and dear to me because of Grace.
• 54:03
  And you'd see these these um disabled organizations.
• 54:07
  Uh, you know, we gotta have ventilators for our disabled population just like the regular population.
• 54:13
  And you know, they don't realize okay, well, yeah, no problem.
• 54:17
  That's exactly what we want.
• 54:18
  We want your disabled population to have ventilators because we want to kill them more than we want to kill the rest of other people because they cost us money.
• 54:26
  They're they're a burden on society.
• 54:28
  So you bet we'll give you those ventilators for your disabled population.
• 54:32
  So they end up fighting for their own demise.
• 54:36
  And this is um until you see this, you you don't realize that we end up um participating in evil.
• 54:45
  Yeah, until you see it with your own eyes, it's really hard to understand.
• 54:52
  And it's really easy to accept the um pronouncement from mainstream that we're a bunch of crazy conspiracy theorists because people haven't seen it with our own eyes.
• 55:07
  And so that's what your book is offering, is an opportunity for people to see this with their own eyes, what your family went through and how deeply impactful these experiences are on the individual, on the family, and then on the community.
• 55:26
  And uh so it's it's so profoundly important, important.
• 55:31
  So thank you for coming on, Scott.
• 55:33
  Thank you for writing the book.
• 55:34
  Thank you for charging forward in the name of the most high into this space of uncovering the truth and sharing it with the world and exposing us to um our our sins, our failures, um, in the hope that for the future of our children we can begin to accept and acknowledge our sins, our failures, and uh return to the light where God calls us back to.
• 56:04
  So thanks, Gil.
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  You can find the find uh at Grace's website, our amazing grace.net.
• 56:10
  You'll see a picture of the cover of the book.
• 56:12
  You just click on that, it'll give you purchase options.
• 56:14
  A hundred percent of the proceeds are going to Grace's foundation.
• 56:18
  Uh, so yeah, I hope everybody will pick up a copy, and more importantly, after you read it, pass it on to somebody who's not awake.
• 56:25
  And I'll pass um all of these links on in the show notes, and uh we will see you all next time.
• 56:32
  Have a great week all.
• 56:34
  Thanks again.
• 56:36
  It's time at this.