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240. The Dissolver: Understanding Neptune in Your Astrological Chart · The Rochelle Christiane Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rochelle Christian podcast, formerly the Emotional Mastery podcast.
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  Speaker 1: First and foremost, how is everyone feeling?
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  Speaker 1: There is so much going on astrologically right now between we have three Kazimis Venus is retrograde, mercury is in retrograde, the spring equinox is tomorrow, as this podcast episode comes out, which means the sun is moving into Aries, which is a new season in astrology and the beginning of the entire zodiac.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it all begins with Aries, with the first house, with this initiating sort of energy.
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  Speaker 1: This is a time, a season when, you know, earth starts to regenerate.
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  Speaker 1: She starts to come alive in the springtime season.
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  Speaker 1: We have Neptune moving into Aries, which hasn't happened in over 160 years, so since I believe the 1800s was the last time we saw Neptune in Aries.
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  Speaker 1: So there's so many shifts happening and I think that's all.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: But we have two asteroids this week that are also moving, or, sorry, they're stationing retrograde, and I'm still deepening my knowledge of asteroids, so I don't feel like I can super like talk to what it means, but I do know that asteroids every time I read one and where it is in my chart, I'm like holy shit, this is so wild.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: And so I think they hold such a deep knowledge maybe I don't know if that's the right word I'm looking for they offer us just something that is really really deep inside of our charts that you know once you kind of move past the basics, it's really really beautiful energy.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been sort of exploring that and what that means for me.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: Specifically in my chart I've read about Ceres and Pallas, athene, and both of where they are in my charts.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my God, this is so, so wild and so accurate.
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: And these are all like the feminine asteroids, right, the goddess asteroids, as they call them because they're all related to Venus and the moon, because these are like the divine feminine energies within the zodiac.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so so much is going on astrologically and I feel I don't feel like I'm ungrounded.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm very aware of what's going on and, even though I am riding the wave, I am implementing these practices that are keeping me grounded, that are keeping me down, that are not down is in the sense of like low vibration or anything like that, but like kind of the opposite.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: I've really been tuning into my connection with source.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like a lot of Neptune energy, and that's what we're going to talk about today is Neptune, how to work with it in your chart, what it represents, just the history of it and yeah.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I feel like I'm kind of riding this wave.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like I sort of had my like tower crumbling moment in January and even that as I'm deepening my knowledge of the tarot and what it means.
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: The tower is really interesting energy and I pulled a card last night.
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  Speaker 1: I was like what is my medicine for the moment.
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  Speaker 1: The tower came up and this is really like when we think about this energy.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the tower is built upon a part of ourselves that maybe we felt like we needed to suppress, that we didn't really deal with, and the crumbling of that tower right, like you have that lightning strike.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of tarot cards show the tower with that lightning strike, but the lightning strike isn't the moment right, like that's sort of the beginning of the crumbling.
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  Speaker 1: But once we crumble the tower then we're left with this foundation, this piece of ourselves that was so hidden deeply under that that we really need to integrate.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what I really feel like.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe my big lightning bolt tower moment was back in January.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: But, like all this now, it's like okay, now the tower has crumbled, we are clearing away the debris, we're clearing all that away and now we're discovering this piece of ourselves underneath that was hard to integrate.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: I guess that we sort of left behind, that we didn't allow to come forth.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: And to me it really feels like what I've been integrating and what I've been meeting and facing has been this really soft, feminine side of myself, this very I don't know why the word forgiving came and that's a part of it, but it's more than just like a forgiving piece of me.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: It's this feminine piece that I think that I suppressed for so long because we honor so much the masculine as a society right, and I think that we're definitely moving away from that.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: But this part that was very soft and very sensitive and very flowy and very like kind of I don't want to say nurturing, that's not really the right word but maybe nurturing of like the self, and it's not to say I'm not nurturing towards others, but more like nurturing towards my own being in my own self and having compassion and holding space.
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that's the part of me that I really needed to integrate and, in whatever this time is has really been for me to meet that part and and face it.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: And I think that when we're not connected with the feminine so regardless of how you identify, but the feminine piece in us is the piece that allows us to receive A lot of times we're looking to grow ourselves, grow our business, enhance our relationships, but when we're not in touch with that receptive sort of part of us, we, yes, like we need to give, but we also need to hold the space to receive as well, and that's where a lot of our shadows come from.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, I hope that again you're kind of staying grounded this week, if that's possible for you, you know.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: But really like coming back into the tools, like I've been doing kundalini meditations every single day.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: It's just 10 minutes, which is very manageable, and so I've been doing that every single day.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: I try to do tapping, so I've been doing tapping like every other day, but tapping has been a huge part of empower, so I've been doing that every single week.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I've been spending time with my kids getting outside.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: The weather here has been absolutely beautiful, so definitely taking advantage of that, because pretty soon we're either going to have storms or it's going to be really hot.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: So there's this time period here in North Texas that just sort of tune not tune in but take advantage of the like 70 degree weather which is sort of like our fall.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: I guess we really don't get a fall.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: We oscillate between really hot and then like ice.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess the springtime here is really the time that we can sort of take advantage of that.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: But okay, so today what we're going to be talking about is Neptune and with all of this Pisces energy, neptune is the ruler of Pisces and I'm going to get into sort of a history of Neptune, what it represents and all that stuff, but Neptune is the ruler of Pisces.
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: So originally I was going to talk about Venus retrograde, but I just feel like right now, specifically as we're in the spring equinox, we're sort of dancing between beginnings and endings, right Between Pisces and Aries energy and Neptune, again Neptune, making this shift into Aries, and it hasn't been here in 165 years or so.
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  Speaker 1: This is really this energy where, again, it feels very soft and I think that you know what I've been moving through myself in kind of connecting with this softer, feminine, slower part of me.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: Neptune has really been supporting that right, and so this energy is like deeply transformative right, mystical, psychic.
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: The energy of Neptune really is just, it is dreamy right, it can feel a little elusive because Pisces in itself is like the unseen right, it's our dream world, it's illusions, it's spirituality.
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  Speaker 1: Neptune is known as the dissolver right, the dissolution of boundaries, the dissolution of the ego.
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  Speaker 1: Neptune is the higher octave of Venus right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's taking us beyond personal love more into divine, universal love, and we're currently in gate 25 in human design, and Neptune is in gate 25, and, as is, the sun, is in gate 25 and the city, which is the highest expression of gate 25 is universal love.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: So this is so resonant right now, like this teaching this, this I guess, like this teaching here is is especially in gate 25, is this universal love?
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: The shadow of this is constriction.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like anywhere where you feel constriction in your body, right, you're not allowing love in, like fear is only the absence of love, right.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: So it's like where can we bring love, where can we integrate love into these moments, even if it's just taking a deep breath and like letting go, releasing, like realizing where you're feeling constricted, where you're not letting it in, where you're feeling more fear, where you're putting your attention, like all these things matter, right, and the gift here is acceptance.
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  Speaker 1: Can we accept the parts of ourselves sort of like that tower moment?
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  Speaker 1: Can we accept like we have that constriction, we have the crumbling.
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  Speaker 1: Now we've seen this part of ourselves.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Can we accept the parts of ourselves that we're holding onto fear, that we're constricted, that maybe we weren't trusting, maybe we weren't letting it in, we weren't accepting ourselves, we weren't seeing ourselves, right?
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Can we accept that so that we can move into this universal love?
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Right, neptune can also bring confusion, escapism, delusion, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of where we surrender or where we can deceive ourselves, right.
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  Speaker 1: And so, with all this moving through Pisces, we have noticed a lot of escapism.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I know my Instagram has, more often than not over the last couple weeks, told me I've reached my limit and I've ignored it.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Usually I'll be like okay, because usually I hit that like right before I'm about to shut down at night and I'm like okay, that's fine.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: Now I feel like I'm hitting it at like two o'clock in the afternoon.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like damn it, I have so much more left to do like on social media as far as like posting and creating content and stuff like that, and that's a piece of why I've been on there more, I've been creating more content and things like that.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: But I'm still like noticing when that comes up and I'm hitting that ignore button.
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  Speaker 1: That's like so Pisces, right, we're just like escaping, we're ignoring, right.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: We're kind of like maybe, in that way, I'm like, oh well, I'm just creating.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so like after now, you know, it's been in Pisces for over a decade, it's again, it's moving into Aries, where it's been, where it hasn't been since 1861.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: And so, okay.
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: So what does this mean?
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Like, how does Neptune show up in your chart?
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: How do we work with Neptune?
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: How do we work with the energy, rather than like getting lost in the confusion, right?
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna dive into that here.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: So, first of all, this already introduced it a little bit, but let's just go back to basics.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: What is Neptune, right?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: So Neptune is the modern ruler of Pisces, which the traditional ruler of Pisces is Jupiter.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: But Neptune is the modern ruler of Pisces and it's associated with water, mysticism, spirituality, again, that dissolution of the ego, dissolution of of boundaries.
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: It's sort of like that veil between worlds, right?
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  Speaker 1: It covers intuition, artistic inspiration, higher consciousness, but also, again, illusion, deception and escapism.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: These are all parts of Neptune.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: So Neptune was discovered in 1846 and it was really coinciding with that rise in spiritualism, the romantic era and art, literature, deep fascination with like the unseen.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: So Neptune's cycles are about dissolving old structures and opening the collective to that higher consciousness, to that divine.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Right, it can also be a little confusion and illusion, right?
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: So Neptune takes about 165 years to move through the zodiac, so it spends about 13 to 14 years in each sign.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: So the last time again Neptune was in Aries was 1861 to 1875.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: During this time we saw in the US the Civil War, a shift in identity and breaking down evolutions.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: This period was really like bold action which gave us a clue, which can give us a clue about what's coming right.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Because this is the beautiful thing about astrology is that it really gives us an opportunity to study history.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: And astrology really is like when we're predicting things with astrology, all we're doing is looking at patterns through history so we can look at like what's happened the last time.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: It's not to say that that's what's happening now, right, like we all have free will.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Things have changed, times have changed and this is the thing about history If we don't learn from history, we're going to repeat it.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Right, but Neptune is really pulling us to raise our consciousness.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: So, through all the times, all the signs and everything that's happened in the last 65 years, not to say that this is what's going to happen, but this is what's happened last time.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Neptune again has been in Pisces since 2011.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: So this has really been an era of spiritual awakening, right, like artistic revival, deep disillusionment.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: So, when we think about like spiritual awakening, oh my gosh, in 2011,.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Like talk about astrology and human design, like nobody knew what that was, right, now, at least everybody has an awareness of these practices design.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Nobody knew what that was.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Right, Now, at least, everybody has an awareness of these practices.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: We've seen such a boom of yoga in the West.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: We've seen holistic Eastern medicines come into the West.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Right, this has been a really big time where we've seen this rise in spirituality and mysticism.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Alternative healing right, these sort of practices have been becoming more widespread.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: But there's also alternately right, we've also seen this like big rise in escapism through social media.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Right, we went from, like, I think, when I went to college this is definitely aging me, but when I went to college in 2004, facebook was like just for colleges.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: There was like nothing else, like maybe MySpace I don't know if MySpace was before that, but like we didn't have smartphones right, it was like you had to get on your laptop to log in, so it wasn't like as widespread.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: But since then, obviously, social media has become this huge thing.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Right, which is so beautiful because we can stay connected to people all over the world.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: But also, right, we're getting lost in virtual realities.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Ai is becoming bigger.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Right, we're seeing a lot of teens now like young kids who are just like lost in the scroll of TikTok and Instagram, and I am a huge believer that it is what you make it.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think that any of these social media apps in themselves are like evil and everybody's got a different opinion.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: This is my opinion.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I think that, right, the algorithm reflects you.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: The algorithm mirrors you.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Gary Vee talks about this a lot, right, where he's like if you go to like his page, he's like it's just sports and this and that and the other thing, like inspiration, whereas if you go to somebody who's maybe going down the doom scrolling, like that's all they're going to see, and so I think, like being really aware, like how are you using this?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Are you using this for spiritual enhancement?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Like, when I go on my Instagram, if I see something that makes me feel a little off, like I mute it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I just mute that account and I move on Like I want things that are inspiring me.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: One thing is I want things that are like making me laugh, right, so that's sort of like what my Instagram is like.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: And again, there are things on there Like I do follow some like sort of conspiracy things, but when it sort of goes down like the dark hole that I'm kind of like, oh, I'm going to like mute you for a minute and like reset my algorithm.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And we've also been seeing some collective disillusionment, right, like especially lately I mean really since, like the last few elections right, this truth like illusion, like what is truth?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Where is this?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Misinformation, blurred realities, like not quite knowing, like what's what?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Like when we watch the media, everybody's got a different perspective, Everybody's got a different lens, everybody's got different opinions.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Everybody puts forth like different.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: It's just there's so much that can be really confusing, right.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: So, with Neptune and Pisces also can dissolve structures, right, really, making it hard to see things clearly, I like to say, like we see things through rose colored glasses.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: With Neptune, so we may have been feeling a little bit lost, a little ungrounded over idealistic in certain areas of our lives and maybe just like this Piscean sort of like dream state energy, right, that's sort of the Neptune influence, right, being the ruler of Pisces over the last, since you know, 2011.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So, again, okay, so now Neptune is moving into Aries, I believe, if I'm not mistaken I don't have my little calendar here, but I think it's like Friday, friday or Saturday, so tomorrow or Saturday, as this comes out on Thursday.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: So it'll move there, obviously 2025 to 2039.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: So what happens when Neptune moves into Aries, right.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Again, we sort of like briefly touched on what happened the last time Pisces was in Aries, but Aries is a cardinal fire sign, right, this is fire, this is initiation, action, identity.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's leadership, it's the self, right, aries is the I am.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Neptune is here to infuse that energy with idealism, spiritual drive and like a new kind of visionary, maybe like dreamy sort of leadership energy.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be all about radical shifts from dreamlike boundaryless nature Pisces into this fiery action, initiatory energy, right?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: So maybe we'll notice that spiritual warrior energy, right, because Aries is the warrior.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So instead of passive spirituality, this is embodied action, living our beliefs, not just thinking about them, and so much of what I've been talking about lately is embodiment.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: We have to be these things, we have to pull it into our body and not just think about it.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: That's sort of like that energy, new movements, right.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So Aries, again, is that first sign of the zodiac.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So we could see like bold, radical, new movement, spirituality, activism, personal identity, themes around the self, self-leadership, these types of things, and maybe illusions in identity, right, because this is the disillusion of the ego, the disillusion of boundaries, this is a dissolver, so it might create illusions around individuality, ego, leadership.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So maybe we don't really see it Like who's real, who's pretending, who am I?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: This could be a really big question.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Who am I now?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And then this like self versus the collective, because Aries is about me but Neptune dissolves the ego, so it's kind of this really interesting dynamic.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: There could be friction between individualism and unity, like in the collective.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: So questions around this like are we moving towards enlightened self or getting lost in narcissism or self-delusion?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Right, like, can we see ourselves clearly?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: So just some things.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Obviously there's always a higher and a lower expression of everything.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: These are just like potentials, possibilities.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It's just like the energetic fingerprint, I guess, if that makes sense.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So collectively we could again that rise in spiritual activism, leadership, again that warrior, mystic, intuitive pioneers, revolutionary identity shifts right, like, how do we see ourselves, gender roles, self-expression, purpose?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Right, like questioning all of these things.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Tech and AI illusions right, I think we're seeing a lot with AI coming around, chat to BT, like all these different things.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Right, aries rules like, like identity.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So we again might struggle with the rise of, like virtual, virtual identities.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Like who are we beyond all of this stuff?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And really like a deep call to embody your beliefs?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Right, like less kind of floating in the ethers and really grounding it in and like doing it and then okay, so that's sort of like the gist of what Neptune and Aries might be calling us towards.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: So now, how can you work with it in your chart?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Because we all have Neptune in our chart, right, and Neptune was really the first planet that we discovered that we could not see with the naked eye.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: So even Uranus, it was hidden in the sky but, like, if it was a really clear night and you had, like the right tools, like you could see it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: But Neptune was the first one that we just could not see, right, which is why this is really about the unseen, because we could not, that we had to have, like like the telescope and all this stuff to be able to see Neptune.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: So it was the first planet that we discovered that we could not see with our naked eye under the right conditions.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So where's Neptune in your chart?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Like, grab your chart, if you don't have it, and then also, within this, look at what your human design gate is in Neptune too and see what center it's in if it's in a defined center, unconscious center, or it's not.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Unconscious center, undefined center, which is unconscious but undefined center.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: But wherever Neptune is in your chart, this is where you sort of like merge with the divine right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You're dissolving boundaries here, you're experiencing dreams, a little disillusionment, and so again find where Neptune is.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Look at the house that it's in, look if you have any planets there, if there's any aspects to it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: This is really where you're like going to be natural, naturally attuned to higher consciousness.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: But you could also experience that like fog, that confusion, that lack of clarity.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So I have this in Capricorn, that confusion, that lack of clarity.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I have this in Capricorn.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I have Mars in Capricorn, but I also have Neptune in Capricorn.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And I always kind of forget that I have Neptune in Capricorn which, right in that sentence alone, is so Neptunian, right, like I just forget that I have it there because it's like I don't see it half the time.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But it really like I get this like fire to move on these areas.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You know, like Capricorn, it's, it's the, it's your work ethic, right, this is like your career, this is what you're doing, it's perseverance, and sometimes I forget that like I have like such a deep ability to like really get serious in that area of my life.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Right Again, check your aspects so the aspects really show how it plays out, right.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: So we have squares and oppositions which are a little bit more challenging, can bring like extra confusion, but then we have trines and sextiles which are more harmonious.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: So this might make it even more, it might enhance the intuitive nature of the Neptune.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Right, and then also look at where Aries is in your chart, because that's where Neptune is really going to be moving through over the next whatever 13, 14 years.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: So this is the area of your life that will undergo spiritual awakening, shifts in identity, possible illusions, right.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: This is all happening over the next 14 years.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So you're really noticing where that is.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: For me personally, I have my North Node in Aries, in my ninth house.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: So this is travel, this is education, this is philosophy.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Again, this is spirituality, this is my purpose, my direction, like the themes that I need to embody, and so Neptune moving through here could either have me drop into that in a more deeper way or just make me feel really confused around it, which is kind of not funny.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But I've spent the last, you know, 18 months, when we had the nodal axis in Aries and Libra, really being so triggered about how I was supposed to lead and guide and show up as myself, and now Neptune is going to come in and just make that even more confusing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: So, you know, this is part of it's all part of the journey, it's all part of the plan, right?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: So, while Neptune is in Pisces, some really great practices that you can have to stay grounded, because we want, we want to stay grounded here, right.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: So grounding rituals right.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Like Aries is fire, so really balancing it with water and earth practices.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: So this is going to be meditation, baths, movement, maybe yoga, maybe gentle movement.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like, if we're doing really intense, like HIIT exercises, this could like increase the fire of Aries, but like slow movement, can we go for walks in nature, maybe you go swimming, maybe you're doing yoga, pilates, something that is going to be a little bit more grounding, again, conscious action.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So, instead of just like blindly doing things, like really question it, like am I projecting?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Is this real?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Is this where I want to go?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Is this actually what I want to do?
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Does everything line up?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Does it make sense, like?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of questions to ask when you want to move and do something, but if we can sort of take that pause, take that moment before we're just like blindly doing things, because, again, neptune creates delusion, so we won't necessarily see things for what they are.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So we might need to pull back and be like, okay, do I actually want to do this?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Does this make sense?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Is this, am I actually seeing this correctly or am I feeling confused?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Am I just blindly going forward because all this fire is coming up, or or am I seeing things incorrectly?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Am I misunderstanding things and taking action?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Am I being the warrior for something that actually I'd misunderstood, right?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So kind of asking those questions can be really helpful and, I think, the most important for no matter what, regardless of whether this is Pisces or sorry Neptune and Pisces energy, or whatever Neptune and Aries energy, protect your energy right.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Neptune can bring deception.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Discernment is so important here, especially in like leadership or spiritual circles.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Discernment please Discern what's true and what's not right.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Protect yourself.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Whether you're doing a bubble, I like to do this.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I read it in a book called the Art of Psychic Protection.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I can't remember who wrote it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: It's on my bookshelf and I don't want to go grab it now.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But one practice that I took from that like first of all, I highly recommend the book, so I'll actually just I'll link it in the show notes so you can go grab it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But there was one practice that is recommended in the book and it's visualizing a green, translucent triangle, like pyramid, around your house, around you.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Or I'll do it around my house and then I do it around my bed and my kids' beds at night before I fall asleep, to really just like protect our energy, protect our dream space, right, you can also sort of visualize a bubble around you during the day, right, if you notice any holes, like really getting in tune with your energy, you don't notice any like energetic leaks, just literally plugging them up.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: These things will really all protect your energy.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And then, so that's really like how we can work with it in our chart, just like remember, I think it's really important to like question like what's real, what's not?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Where am I maybe finding feeling confused?
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: What's like actually true?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: What?
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: What is the truth?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Right, cause, again, this is really has to do with just like mistruths, misunderstandings coming out and creating this friction, so really like coming back into that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Um, um, it's really this can be bold shifts, though, right, like this can really move us forward if we're really using the energy correctly.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So it's about being intentional.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's about discerning, living our truth, embodying our beliefs.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: It's about discerning, living our truth, embodying our beliefs right and again, discerning what's real and what's not.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to give you a couple journal prompts three, actually, not a couple, three journal prompts to sort of like explore this within your chart, within your life, and maybe just give you something to come back to.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: So the first journal prompt I'm going to give you is where in my life am I being called to embody my dreams instead of just thinking about them?
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So, yes, new Year's is obviously January 1st in Western society and this is not really the astrological New Year.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Right Like Aries season is the astrological New Year, new Year's and Capricorn season.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: This is more like the sort of planning, getting structures in place, getting organized, holding the vision, getting clear on the vision.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: And now, with Aries, we're, we're moving.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Now is the time to like go and do, although right now, when we're moving into Aries, we have Venus and Mercury in retrograde, so it's not really the time to like do things.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: But we've had so much of this dreamy energy, so much of this Pisces dreamy energy.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Now it's like, okay, we've hopefully gotten clear.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: We've held the vision.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Now how can we show the fuck up?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: How can we actually take action instead of just thinking about the thing?
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So then, number two what illusions about myself or my path am I ready to dissolve?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So, again, this is sort of that what's real versus illusion?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Right, like, what can I actually?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: And let me be clear, I do think that we need a certain amount of delusion, that delulu energy.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: We do need that, especially when it comes to like and I'm not saying you're not worthy, but like self-worth, like sometimes it's, sometimes it is that fake until you make it energy, like if you want something, if your dream is so grand and so big, like this is part of manifestation work, right, like, how can I bring in that being, that version of myself into now?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Right, like, bringing it in now.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: But we also again have to discern, like, what is real and what is just like.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Where am I ready to dissolve things?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So again, that question was what illusions about myself or my path am I ready to dissolve?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Again that I think that really just comes down to discernment.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And so then, number three where am I being invited to step into spiritual leadership on your terms, because this is Aries, right, this is your terms, this is about you, but we're also bringing in the collective.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So, if you're called to that and obviously not everybody's in some sort of spiritual space, some people are maybe finding their spirituality, some people whatever that means to you, right, like whatever that means to you, and I do believe I was sitting in meditation the other night and I was praying and it's just like.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I do think that when it comes to embodiment, when really, when it comes to anything, I do believe that we need to believe in something right, there's something higher than ourselves that we really do need to lean into, to guide us, and I think that's why religion, over time, has been so popularized.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Right Like it's.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: There is something within that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily subscribe to religion, but I am deeply spiritual.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I have my own beliefs.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I 100% believe that there's something there.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But, all that being said, I don't go to church.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: That's sort of like part of my past, but the times that I have been into church, there is something there, right, and I think that my perspective is we all are called to what we need in this lifetime to connect us with something higher.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: So maybe you are religious, right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe you resonate with whatever it is right, like, whatever religion you're tied to.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That is your path in this life.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: That is your path to connection with the divine.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're spiritual right.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe religion didn't serve you in that way, but spirituality does.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter whatever terminology or label you want to put on it, right?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: But like, what does spiritual leadership mean to you and how are you integrating that in your life?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: So for me, that really means like, having people, yes, connect with their body, but also understand that there's something higher than themselves that can guide them there.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Right, if we can just listen to it, if we can stop, slow down and listen to that voice, that knowing because it's a whisper, right, like, love is a whisper.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Love doesn't yell, love doesn't shout, love doesn't like push us around.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: It going to be quiet, so how can we just like sit and listen to that?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: So I would love to hear how you're experiencing this.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts.
• 31:34
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• 31:37
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• 31:40
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• 31:47
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• 31:52
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• 32:00
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• 32:08
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• 32:14
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• 32:15
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• 32:16
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• 32:17
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• 32:21
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• 32:24
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• 32:26
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• 32:27
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• 32:31
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• 32:40
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• 32:44
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• 32:48
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• 32:57
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• 33:03
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• 33:06
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• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just so excited, I feel so good about this live round.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've done a live round, but I responded to something.
• 33:12
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• 33:16
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• 33:18
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