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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian, here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's Friday, September 25, 2026. How did an open AI
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- 0:25Speaker 1: And we're covering it.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Live at theaustralian.com.au. He's blown up racing and revved up
- 0:33Speaker 2: rugby league and now Peter Villandis is cementing his authority
- 0:38Speaker 2: as the most powerful person in sport by becoming the
- 0:41Speaker 2: National Rugby League's first ever executive chairman. Today, our columnist
- 0:46Speaker 2: Andrew Webster on the take no prisoners titan of the
- 0:50Speaker 2: toughest game of all.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Please welcome Tones and I.
- 0:57Speaker 2: CHEERING It was a brutal dumping. Pop singer Tones and
- 1:03Speaker 2: I was in talks to play the NRL Grand Final
- 1:06Speaker 2: on October 4, but she reportedly didn't want to play
- 1:09Speaker 2: her monster hit Dance Monkey.
- 1:15Speaker 3: People come to our game for our game, for the
- 1:18Speaker 3: entertainment of rugby league.
- 1:20Speaker 2: The most hard-headed man in Australian sport, Peter Volandes, said
- 1:25Speaker 2: there'd be no performance and he'd donate a million dollars
- 1:28Speaker 2: to charity instead.
- 1:30Speaker 3: If you want to go to a pop concert, you
- 1:31Speaker 3: buy a ticket to go to a pop concert.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Now, Tones and I says it was all about scheduling
- 1:37Speaker 2: and not about the song, but it was a classic
- 1:40Speaker 2: Volandes power move.
- 1:42Speaker 1: We're done negotiating.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I have been covering Peter Volandes for a hell of
- 1:48Speaker 4: a long time.
- 1:49Speaker 1: This is Andrew Webster, a columnist with The Australian.
- 1:52Speaker 4: I remember actually talking to him yesterday when I was
- 1:56Speaker 4: a young reporter of the Border Mall newspaper in Albury-Wodonga
- 1:59Speaker 4: in the late 90s, when he was the head of
- 2:02Speaker 4: Harness Racing New South Wales. And we've been rocking and
- 2:05Speaker 4: rolling ever since. Yeah, I have been calling for him
- 2:07Speaker 4: to either choose between racing and rugby league. And I'm
- 2:10Speaker 4: so glad it's only taking him eight years to decide
- 2:13Speaker 4: to become executive chairman of the game. It's so weird.
- 2:17Speaker 4: We've been talking about this in rugby league for so
- 2:19Speaker 4: long about him basically playing the role of executive chair
- 2:22Speaker 4: with whoever's been CEO. First, it was Todd Greenberg and
- 2:26Speaker 4: then Andrew Abdo, who was a loyal and trusty lieutenant
- 2:30Speaker 4: in many respects. But no one's really surprised that this
- 2:33Speaker 4: day has come. I suppose people are just surprised that
- 2:37Speaker 4: it took this long.
- 2:38Speaker 3: We've got the greatest game of all. There is no
- 2:39Speaker 3: better game than rugby league. So being number one, that's
- 2:42Speaker 3: where we should be because it's the greatest game for all.
- 2:46Speaker 2: His first really kind of stunning move when he came
- 2:49Speaker 2: into the game of rugby league was saving it from
- 2:51Speaker 2: the COVID lockdown. He came up with something called Project Apollo,
- 2:55Speaker 2: this very ambitious restart back in 2020 when most sports
- 2:59Speaker 2: couldn't even imagine coming back to live play.
- 3:02Speaker 3: And the Eels have defeated Brisbane 34 points to six.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Did that surprise you at the time and did that
- 3:12Speaker 2: sort of set the tone for what he was going
- 3:14Speaker 2: to do to the sport?
- 3:15Speaker 4: No, I remember the press conference when the NRL had
- 3:18Speaker 4: to ground their competition. And I remember sitting in the
- 3:22Speaker 4: front row of that press conference and I asked him
- 3:25Speaker 4: point blank, I said, when do you expect to be back?
- 3:27Speaker 4: And he said, May 28th. I said, really, that's ambitious.
- 3:29Speaker 4: And he winked and he said, we're a can-do organization.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I remember after that press conference, Claire, being in a
- 3:35Speaker 4: meeting with a handful of select journos with Peter Volandis
- 3:39Speaker 4: and Todd Greenberg, who was still the CEO of And
- 3:42Speaker 4: I said to him, what if your biosecurity expert says
- 3:47Speaker 4: it's going to be later than May 28? And he laughed.
- 3:50Speaker 4: He said, we'll get a new expert. And the reason
- 3:53Speaker 4: why I did is because he could see the game's
- 3:55Speaker 4: finances were in the toilet. Without that broadcast money coming in,
- 3:59Speaker 4: the game was going to be insolvent sooner than later.
- 4:02Speaker 4: But he got the game back on May 28. The
- 4:04Speaker 4: AFL and every other major code in this country had
- 4:07Speaker 4: to follow his lead. And without that, who knows where
- 4:10Speaker 4: Australian sport would have been in 2020 or throughout that pandemic.
- 4:14Speaker 4: But that really cemented his legacy in rugby league in
- 4:17Speaker 4: many ways. And from there, he has been able to
- 4:20Speaker 4: generate record TV deals, an asset base of more than
- 4:25Speaker 4: $ 500 million, and basically brought some security to the game
- 4:30Speaker 4: that it's never had before.
- 4:31Speaker 2: He's also overseen some pretty dramatic kind of rule changes
- 4:35Speaker 2: aimed at speeding things up and making rugby league more unpredictable,
- 4:39Speaker 2: more dynamic. The two-point field goal, the six-again rule, which
- 4:42Speaker 2: was designed to speed up play in the ruck. Do
- 4:45Speaker 2: fans like Peter Volandis?
- 4:47Speaker 3: You know what?
- 4:47Speaker 4: It's funny, Claire. As I said, I've been covering him
- 4:49Speaker 4: for a long period of time. He and I have
- 4:51Speaker 4: a really weird relationship because what's the best way to
- 4:54Speaker 4: describe this? Gernot and a lot of columnists are very
- 4:58Speaker 4: reluctant to criticise him. And people seem to think it's
- 5:01Speaker 4: because he gives them tickets to the director's room at
- 5:03Speaker 4: Royal Randwick or the chairman's room or trips to Vegas
- 5:07Speaker 4: or whatever. The reason he gets so much great publicity
- 5:10Speaker 4: from a lot of journalists is that he's very accessible.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Someone from the Muscle Book Chronicle could call up Peter
- 5:16Speaker 4: Volandis and he'll give them 20 minutes on the phone.
- 5:18Speaker 4: That's why he's so lauded by the media. In terms
- 5:22Speaker 4: of his public perception, I think it was through the
- 5:26Speaker 4: roof after getting the game through the pandemic. I think
- 5:29Speaker 4: it was through the roof with the Vegas concept.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Las Vegas' famous Fremont Street turned into rugby league heaven today,
- 5:36Speaker 2: flooded by thousands of fans ahead of Sunday's NRL season openers.
- 5:40Speaker 3: We never thought it'd be this big, but not only
- 5:42Speaker 3: here in America, but back at home in Australia. It's
- 5:47Speaker 3: given us momentum we've never had before.
- 5:50Speaker 4: But I do certainly feel a change in the last year,
- 5:54Speaker 4: this year in particular, about the the enforcement of the
- 5:57Speaker 4: six-to-go rules, and just the constant changing of the rules
- 6:01Speaker 4: and interpretations. And, you know, I've made this point in
- 6:04Speaker 4: the past in columns with the Australian. You know, fans,
- 6:07Speaker 4: they can respect what he's done for the game commercially,
- 6:11Speaker 4: but once you start playing with the fabric of the game,
- 6:14Speaker 4: that gets fans offside because that's the thing that matters
- 6:16Speaker 4: the most. PVL likes to call rugby league an entertainment business.
- 6:22Speaker 4: And I get what he's talking about. It is in
- 6:23Speaker 4: many ways. It's an entertainment business for him. But for
- 6:27Speaker 4: the fans out there, it's a sport. And if you
- 6:29Speaker 4: play with the fabric of the sport, then you're going
- 6:31Speaker 4: to get blowback. And I think there's a bit of
- 6:33Speaker 4: a reckoning for PBL in the off-season with how the
- 6:36Speaker 4: game's officiated and just the interpretation of the rules.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're coming into very much the business
- 6:42Speaker 2: end of the season, of course. And so, as always,
- 6:44Speaker 2: there are big dramas about refereeing, decisions that went against
- 6:47Speaker 2: some fans. The power of the bunker, another referee that
- 6:51Speaker 2: is sitting in a room watching everything on video and
- 6:53Speaker 2: making calls on the field.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Is that just the normal.
- 6:56Speaker 2: End of year kind of drama when fans are getting
- 6:59Speaker 2: very passionate? Or is there actually something going on with
- 7:02Speaker 2: refereeing and with the bunker that's a serious problem?
- 7:05Speaker 4: Fans will whinge about referees and video technology every year
- 7:09Speaker 4: or year round. But this is different. This is different.
- 7:12Speaker 4: This is a change in the fabric of the game,
- 7:14Speaker 4: particularly in terms of the speed. The concern, I think,
- 7:18Speaker 4: for a lot of supporters is it's a manufactured result,
- 7:22Speaker 4: that there's an ability there with those set restarts to
- 7:24Speaker 4: get a team back into the contest. And that shouldn't
- 7:26Speaker 4: be what it's about. The referee should be there to
- 7:29Speaker 4: apply the rules of the game, not sort of to
- 7:31Speaker 4: hit a metric of 3.5 seconds for a play of
- 7:35Speaker 4: the ball. It's a nonsense. Apply the rules of the
- 7:38Speaker 4: game and that's all it should be. It isn't just
- 7:41Speaker 4: the fans that have complained about it. It's the players themselves.
- 7:43Speaker 4: We're talking about You know, some of the best in
- 7:45Speaker 4: Australian players like Cameron Munster and Harry Grant, who Peter
- 7:49Speaker 4: dismissed a few weeks ago and then backtracked and said,
- 7:51Speaker 4: you know, I should be listening to what they have
- 7:53Speaker 4: to say. Let's hope that that happens in the offseason
- 7:56Speaker 4: a little bit more. But as I said, I think
- 7:57Speaker 4: there's going to be a bit of a reckoning about
- 7:59Speaker 4: how the game's officiated. And now Peter Volandis as executive
- 8:02Speaker 4: chair is the man that's got to lead that.
- 8:10Speaker 2: He seems to be out in front of the rugby
- 8:13Speaker 2: league community on some issues.
- 8:15Speaker 1: One is head trauma.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I remember going to visit him with our colleague then
- 8:19Speaker 2: Jess Halloran when we were doing a podcast called Head
- 8:22Speaker 2: Noise about head trauma. That was right at the beginning
- 8:23Speaker 2: of the conversations about whether rugby league was catastrophically damaging players'
- 8:27Speaker 2: brains along with other contact sports. He really listened. He
- 8:30Speaker 2: didn't make the changes that we were asking for then,
- 8:33Speaker 2: which was reduced contact in training and stuff. But you
- 8:36Speaker 2: do now see a much greater awareness, I think, on
- 8:39Speaker 2: the field of head injury assessments and so on. The
- 8:42Speaker 2: other one is Women's Rugby League, Webby. You know, I
- 8:47Speaker 2: catch the Women's NRL every so often on TV and
- 8:49Speaker 2: there's nobody in the crowd and the TV audiences are
- 8:52Speaker 2: just not there yet. It feels like Australians are not
- 8:56Speaker 2: quite ready for a full Women's NRL competition yet.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Is that your sense too or do you think differently?
- 9:03Speaker 4: I love the NRLW. I think the level of professionalism
- 9:06Speaker 4: in the last few years, you can see just in
- 9:09Speaker 4: the physicality and the skill level in the women's game
- 9:12Speaker 4: is getting stronger. I think the NRL doesn't know what
- 9:16Speaker 4: it's got in terms of the women's game. And if
- 9:18Speaker 4: you talk to almost anyone in the women's sport space,
- 9:22Speaker 4: they will tell you that the NRLW is far ahead
- 9:26Speaker 4: of probably every other women's football code in this country
- 9:29Speaker 4: in a lot of ways.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Women's Rugby League can't stop making history. Wonderful scenes.
- 9:34Speaker 2: What a great night this is for the game.
- 9:37Speaker 1: What about the crowd?
- 9:40Speaker 4: I just think the NRL needs to get serious about
- 9:42Speaker 4: when they play it, how much they pay the players.
- 9:44Speaker 4: If you can get a doubleheader with an NRL game,
- 9:47Speaker 4: that's always going to make sure that people are watching
- 9:49Speaker 4: that sport and the banks of empty seats that you see.
- 9:52Speaker 4: And I think Peter Villandis understands that. In terms of concussion,
- 9:56Speaker 4: I would dare say that the NRL are light years
- 10:00Speaker 4: ahead of the AFL on this issue. And I think
- 10:02Speaker 4: that's really improved in the last couple of years. So
- 10:05Speaker 4: in terms of concussion, I think PBL deserves a pat
- 10:08Speaker 4: on the back for taking it the right direction. I'm
- 10:10Speaker 4: not saying that the NRL is perfect at all. I'm
- 10:12Speaker 4: not saying that a lot of major sports in this
- 10:14Speaker 4: country are perfect when it comes to head trauma, but
- 10:17Speaker 4: they're getting better. And I think the NRL is he's
- 10:19Speaker 4: pretty much at the front of the field.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Coming up, what's horse racing without Peter Volandis?
- 10:42Speaker 2: He's expanding the game east and west. There's going to
- 10:44Speaker 2: be a new team in Papua New Guinea and a
- 10:46Speaker 2: new team in Perth. In PNG, of course, there's a
- 10:49Speaker 2: ready-made audience for that.
- 10:50Speaker 4: In Perth, I'm not so sure.
- 10:51Speaker 2: The PNG team is a kind of tool of Australian
- 10:54Speaker 2: diplomacy now in the Pacific. How much of that is
- 10:56Speaker 2: Peter Volandi's creation and how much is he just sort
- 10:59Speaker 2: of a willing participant in what the government already wanted
- 11:02Speaker 2: to do?
- 11:02Speaker 4: I think he's definitely a willing participant. He's got a
- 11:05Speaker 4: very close relationship with Anthony Albanese. It was Anthony Albanese
- 11:09Speaker 4: and the government that came to Peter Volandis with this idea.
- 11:12Speaker 4: And I know this for a fact because Volandis told me,
- 11:15Speaker 4: he said as soon as he heard that they were
- 11:17Speaker 4: going to tip in $ 600 million of DFAT money, he said, well,
- 11:19Speaker 4: I'll jump at that. I don't know about P & G.
- 11:23Speaker 4: I really don't. I understand there's a captive audience there
- 11:25Speaker 4: with it being the national sport. In Papua New Guinea,
- 11:29Speaker 4: I just wonder how many players are going to get there.
- 11:31Speaker 4: I know they've got these tax-free incentives and players are
- 11:34Speaker 4: going there, and it's only going to ramp up from
- 11:36Speaker 4: November 1 when the PNG chiefs can talk to whoever
- 11:39Speaker 4: they want that's coming off contract. But I just wonder,
- 11:43Speaker 4: after a couple of years, and particularly after the DFAT
- 11:46Speaker 4: money ends in 10 years' time, whether that's going to
- 11:49Speaker 4: be a bit of a money bonfire for the NRL,
- 11:52Speaker 4: who are going to have to fund it. I think...
- 11:54Speaker 4: The federal government's on the record saying when they announced
- 11:57Speaker 4: the deal in the first place that they won't be
- 11:59Speaker 4: putting in any money beyond the 10 years. I do
- 12:01Speaker 4: think that it goes beyond just China. I think it's
- 12:04Speaker 4: seen as an agent of social change in that country,
- 12:07Speaker 4: in the Pacific. But in terms of Perth, again, I
- 12:11Speaker 4: think he's rushed that through with a partnership with Roger
- 12:13Speaker 4: Cook and the WA government. The big concern is, and
- 12:17Speaker 4: they're going to bring in a third team, either it's
- 12:19Speaker 4: going to be in the west of Brisbane or in
- 12:21Speaker 4: New Zealand, just where all the bloody players are going
- 12:23Speaker 4: to come from. There's three teams being introduced in the
- 12:26Speaker 4: space of three years, and that's the concern in rugby
- 12:28Speaker 4: league circles about where are the players going to come from.
- 12:31Speaker 4: But these are the big issues that Peter Volandis is
- 12:33Speaker 4: going to have to deal with as executive chair.
- 12:36Speaker 2: Just finally, Webby, he will have a little bit more
- 12:38Speaker 2: time now because he's not going to be directly involved
- 12:40Speaker 2: with racing anymore. He blew up the sport of racing
- 12:43Speaker 2: by creating the Everest and billing it as the richest
- 12:46Speaker 2: race ever and parading around the opposition turf with the
- 12:49Speaker 2: Everest trophy. Will racing be the worst without him?
- 12:53Speaker 4: That's the big question. He has been a force of
- 12:56Speaker 4: nature in that sport for a long time. He's brought
- 12:58Speaker 4: in riches for owners and trainers and jockeys that we've
- 13:03Speaker 4: never seen before. Everyone thought that the Everest, particularly down
- 13:06Speaker 4: in Melbourne, particularly the VRC, thought the Everest would be
- 13:10Speaker 4: a flop and it's turned out to be a raging success.
- 13:14Speaker 4: He calls himself a disruptor. He wanted to disrupt the
- 13:16Speaker 4: Spring Carnival, which Victoria's had a stranglehold of for decades,
- 13:20Speaker 4: and he's done that. He's made the Caulfield Cup basically
- 13:24Speaker 4: secondary to the Everest. Whether you like him or not,
- 13:27Speaker 4: whether you like the way that he goes about business
- 13:30Speaker 4: or not, you can't deny that he's successful in pretty
- 13:33Speaker 4: much everything that he's done.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Andrew Webster, thank you very much.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Thanks, Claire.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Andrew Webster is a columnist with The Australian.