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7-21-26 Hour 3 Where Will Lebron Land · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: Do you guys think it's weird that the Denver Nuggets
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  Speaker 1: over under for wins as of right now as forty
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  Speaker 1: nine and a half.
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  Speaker 2: No, okay, why would that be weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's because they've won at least fifty games over the
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  Speaker 1: last four years.
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  Speaker 2: I know. But there's some uncertainty with the roster. I
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  Speaker 2: get it. It's okay. I mean there's no offense. No
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  Speaker 2: offense should be taken. He hit the over grade. Do
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  Speaker 2: I think this team can win fifty plus?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I don't think that's offensive. Can you
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  Speaker 1: ask me that.
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  Speaker 3: Question again on October first? Please?
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  Speaker 1: I suppose I could, But just where it sits right now,
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  Speaker 1: Like the way I think about it is this Joker's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get you to fifty. Whatever else happens with the roster,
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  Speaker 1: Joker gets you to fifty. It's a matter of is
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  Speaker 1: it going to be fifty seven? Is it going to
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  Speaker 1: be at fifty like they're thinking of me.
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  Speaker 2: They got to fifty four last year despite Joker missing
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: a month and dudes being out left and right. If
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon is healthy, I'm telling you right now, if
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Gordn's healthy, this team is going to win mid fifties,
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  Speaker 2: close to sixty games if he's healthy. But Vic and
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  Speaker 2: they will stay healthy. Right now, this is where he
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  Speaker 2: can stay healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, This is where though, I start to get into
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  Speaker 3: the oh boy, why why can't he stay healthy? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's thirty years old. Is his body just now abandoning him?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 3: I just think.
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  Speaker 2: Soft tissue injuries unless I think it's just ingrained. It's
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  Speaker 2: part of your body. I you know, maybe maybe he
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  Speaker 2: needs a different approach to lifting tray.
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  Speaker 3: And again I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying his
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  Speaker 3: body is his body's not happy, you know, and and
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  Speaker 3: so is that. I mean, guys, guys, I can wear
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  Speaker 3: out and loop. Every Body is different. I want to
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  Speaker 3: believe so bad that he can stay healthy that I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm holding that optimism, but I can't help but have
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  Speaker 3: that pessimism creep in because it just has been laborious
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  Speaker 3: with him the past couple of years. You know.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting is that with the nuggets
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  Speaker 1: where they are right now, and we still it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to discuss because with no news of Peyton Watson yet,
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  Speaker 1: you don't really know what you're gonna get. I will
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  Speaker 1: say this, it might mean absolutely nothing. But but I
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  Speaker 1: can't help but be encouraged with the two draft picks
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  Speaker 1: that you had, with the way that they look in
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  Speaker 1: Summer League. From this standpoint, they did look like they
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  Speaker 1: beyond in a tier above the competition they were playing.
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  Speaker 1: Is that fair to say, like Trevn Brazil and Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Hopkins in Summer League looked like they were better than
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  Speaker 1: most other people that were on the floor with them. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's a positive step because that's how
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  Speaker 1: it should look when you're going against guys who are
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  Speaker 1: not NBA players.
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  Speaker 3: Who just did the story VIC about Nicholas Skeitisvilli looking
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  Speaker 3: so good at summer camp and.
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  Speaker 2: I think one of the guys from d m VR
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  Speaker 2: did that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I just glanced over it.
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  Speaker 2: That poor guy. Do you remember Nicola's skeedtish feeling. You're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna remember him Brett And.
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  Speaker 3: He was a Skeets, We called him Skeets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a young kid. What was he from Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna google him, and I have no idea
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  Speaker 1: how to even spell it.
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  Speaker 3: Starts with the last name, starts with the tee sketish field.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to hear a true story about Skeets.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm working a Channel four at the time, and
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  Speaker 2: Skeedish feeling was all the talk, right because he's a young.
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  Speaker 1: Euro thought I would spelling that name.
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  Speaker 2: What's is he from Georgia?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: So I said, I'm gonna do a story with Skeets.
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  Speaker 2: And the story was I'm gonna drive around town with
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  Speaker 2: him and introduce him to Denver. And he got a
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  Speaker 2: new car, and so my camera guy and I show
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  Speaker 2: up and camera guy gets in the back seat. I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the passenger seat. We're in his his car in
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  Speaker 2: the player's parking lot right outside Ballering. Back then, they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the indoor lot. It was just the outdoor lot.
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  Speaker 2: Throws it in reverse to start the piece and slams
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  Speaker 2: into the car behind him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 2: The car he slammed into belonged to the late great
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: Lou Personet. Tell him who Lou Personett is.
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  Speaker 3: Lou Personett was the first director of broadcasting under the
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  Speaker 3: new regime. Well, I mean he was there before, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: He he was there from the get go.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest with you, just an all time famous
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  Speaker 3: producer and director of broadcasting.
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  Speaker 2: So Lou rolls out and he's all ticked off. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell this kid just he's now now, Skita.
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  Speaker 3: Is it wasn't It wasn't a Corvette wasn't. No, okay, no,
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  Speaker 3: it was like an older because because Lou had a
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  Speaker 3: Vet at one point.
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  Speaker 2: It was a classic yellow Vet slam and Lou was
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  Speaker 2: just mad and Skeeda now is He's troubled. He's he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know what to do, and I'm like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: It turns out the poor guy didn't even have insurance yet.
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  Speaker 2: It was It was a complete crap show.
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  Speaker 3: Needless to say, the story ended right there.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't proceed with that drive around town. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: was no more to that story. He did right there
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  Speaker 2: in the player parking lot.
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  Speaker 1: Sort of the way his career, say. Fortunately, from what
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  Speaker 1: I can see, yeah, it's similar to how the career ended.
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  Speaker 1: But look again, that's why I couched this mode real
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  Speaker 1: quick though.
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  Speaker 3: When they he won an Italian League championship under Mike
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  Speaker 3: d'An toni, I didn't realize that anyway, though, So the
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  Speaker 3: Numbets traded him in five to Golden State.
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  Speaker 1: You know who came back in that trade vic.
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: I don't remember Eddie Nahara. Oh wow, yeah, dude, what
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: are your time flies when you're having fun? Man?
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  Speaker 1: Okay good. That's why I couched it on the front
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  Speaker 1: end that it might mean nothing, but I will say
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: Trevor Brazil and his athleticism that was displayed in Nuggets
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  Speaker 1: summer League ability to knock down a shot. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's that still shot of him making the block where
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  Speaker 1: his hands basically at the top of the backboard. That's
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  Speaker 1: all stuff that at a minimum athletically you can play
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  Speaker 1: with people in the league. That's it. Now again does
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  Speaker 1: it translate? Who knows? But you're no matter what happens
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  Speaker 1: from here on out, you're going to be looking for
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  Speaker 1: somebody that kind of comes out of nowhere to produce
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  Speaker 1: for you. I mean, that's where the Nuggets are at,
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  Speaker 1: because if it's not him, then who is it. Your
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: bench right now is Highus Jones and Zeke Nase and
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: guys that are not quote trusted yet, so who knows,
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  Speaker 1: But it was encouraging that they looked like they in
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  Speaker 1: each of these games were the best or one of
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  Speaker 1: the top two three players on the floor each night. Now,
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with that moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier. It feels like there's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be so much more clarity when the Peyton Watson deal
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  Speaker 1: gets announced. Whenever that is, what would you put the
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  Speaker 1: odds VIC on? Like, I know these sign and trades
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  Speaker 1: keep being tossed out there, but I feel like that's
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: a low percentage thing. I don't think they'll get the
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  Speaker 1: return they want for it.
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  Speaker 2: I believe ultimately that the Nuggets and Peyton Watson will
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  Speaker 2: come to terms on a deal, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what that deal will look like. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the number is. Clearly they're not on the same page
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  Speaker 2: number wise, or it'd be done by now. Yeah, But
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  Speaker 2: I've seen some reports, like they have these independent stat
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  Speaker 2: people who think he's worth between seventeen and nineteen million
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  Speaker 2: per year.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting more than that.
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  Speaker 2: The problem with that is that he sees the money
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  Speaker 2: that Christian Brown got and said I can do that.
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  Speaker 2: I want this much, and so those are the numbers
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  Speaker 2: he's but Brown's dealing with. Yeah, but Brown was, he
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  Speaker 2: was He played for like three years, Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 2: was a healthy part of a championship team. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: disputing that. I'm just telling you what his I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean, he proved.
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  Speaker 3: He proved his worth at the time, and maybe it
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  Speaker 3: was a little early, but he proved his worth at
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  Speaker 3: the time in the postseason two.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it weird?
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  Speaker 3: Though?
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  Speaker 2: So you're you're the Nuggets and you are deliberating negotiating
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  Speaker 2: with Clutch Sports, and that's the same team that now
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  Speaker 2: is running the Lebron James thing. So how do you
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  Speaker 2: negotiate without upsetting the agent and keeping staying on the
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  Speaker 2: good side to still being the in the Lebron James sweepstakes?
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a weird deal.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think they're still in I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: I think it'd be a I mean a long shot,
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  Speaker 2: to say the least.
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  Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me help you, Jesse roll tape.
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  Speaker 3: There is no way on God's Green Earth or in
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  Speaker 3: the depths of Hell that Lebron James will be a
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  Speaker 3: Denver nugget.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: Not a chance on Earth of that happening period. End
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  Speaker 3: of story. I will stick by that. I am done
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  Speaker 3: by that.
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  Speaker 1: I will say watch sports. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: them or whoever, but they got being a part of
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: that must be some cool perks he had. Did you
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: guys see the picture? Literally, I think the best seat
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: in the entire house to the Argentina Spain final. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Like he was midfield center suite, perfect view of the
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  Speaker 1: entire thing. And I'm like, who's taking him to these things?
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  Speaker 3: Was that Lebron or Rich Paul?
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  Speaker 1: All I know is Peyton Watson had sent it from
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  Speaker 1: his Peyton Watson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I was confused.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, like maybe it was a perk
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  Speaker 1: of the clutch sports thing and they're like, hey, we
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: got a sweet you want to go? I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: but he had a perfect seat to that.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Cam Newton also a victim to the ESPN layoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Always he realized, Yeah, him was a lot. It was
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: a lot. Was it every Friday or Monday or something
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: like that during the NFL season. I would just see
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  Speaker 1: that top hat with the hair sticking out of it.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: How long do you think it takes Cam Newton to
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: get ready in the morning.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a lot. You're right.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: Just the clothes, just the primping and production of the
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  Speaker 3: clothes alone, that.
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  Speaker 1: Has to be an hour, it has to be. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think he actually used the Espan hair and makeup
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: or was he like, trust me, I did this at
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  Speaker 1: home myself. I got.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as you primp a lot, how long does it
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  Speaker 2: take you to get ready for a game?
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: You're a game or the show a game? Now?
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: This show is a joke that he show got to
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: Iron a shirt, clothes, Iron a shirt. That's all I
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  Speaker 4: tuk Iron a shirt? Yeah, put it on.
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  Speaker 1: I can I ask you guys another question because I
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  Speaker 1: can't get over this.
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  Speaker 3: Just like shower, shower and hair. Seven six minutes Matt Max.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: When when Cam Scattaboo, who's coming off a leg injury,
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  Speaker 1: does a backflip on the Fanatics Fest stage and and
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: falls down, what's your thought? Well, I I we we
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean my thought is he failed to stick the landing?
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  Speaker 3: I thought, is it something?
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Is it rude to say my first thought is this
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  Speaker 1: guy's an idiot?
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: No, because that was my first thought too, And I
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: love his quote.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to imagine just for a second that
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, oh Nicks, who's coming off ankle surgery
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  Speaker 1: is that fanatics fest and he does a backflip and
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  Speaker 1: falls down like that, that would be what you're thinking
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  Speaker 1: to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: That would be something.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: Well if he's I'm thinking, i'd want to ring his neck. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's what I'm thinking, Like, yeah, you do. You can't
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  Speaker 3: be doing that. Oh.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Aaron writes in that MPJ was with
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  Speaker 2: Peyton Watson at the World Cup Final. MPJ is obviously
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: trying to court him to to come to Brooklyn. Brooklyn
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: is one of the few teams left that has the
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  Speaker 2: necessary salary space.
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: Well, then offer him, then then do it. Then offer
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: him your big babies.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: That's That's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, if you want him to offer him and
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: But I tell you motion I went to Mosher's house
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: at TV's and I said, I'm interested in buying a
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: TV and you go, how about this one? To go No, no, no,
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in it. You'd look at me and be like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna give me the money or not? How interesting?
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: How interested, Brett?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested. Okay, well maybe I can hook you
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: up in this nice so sixty five inture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just did I'll get to the point where
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: do you really want to buy a TV?
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Or do you not want to buy a TV? What
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  Speaker 1: are we doing?
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: Do you really want to buy a Peyton Watson or
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: do you not want to buy a Peyton Watson? I
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: mean all these teams they sell it tells you interest
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  Speaker 3: didn't sell it to? Is that to make all yours
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  Speaker 3: to sign make an offer?
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: This make an offer as much as anything else, isn't
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: it is the idea of maybe Peyton Watson's way. And
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, these teams are interested in signing man.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: It's like really, well, they haven't made a single offer yet,
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  Speaker 1: not a single one.
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  Speaker 2: What's crazy?
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Show me the paper, where's the where's the contract?
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Kesler has made an offer right away? Right Walker Kesler?
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: Right right away?
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  Speaker 1: Four first round picks, boom, here you go, I want it?
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: And here's it's funny how it's funny?
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  Speaker 3: La.
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  Speaker 2: The Lakers had all this stuff in place the day
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: after Lebron announced he wasn't coming back, that all the
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: levers pulled as if they didn't already know, right Who
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  Speaker 2: do you think.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Wanted out more? Do you think the Lakers wanted to
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  Speaker 1: move on from Lebron or he wanted to move on
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  Speaker 1: from the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: I think it became mutual. I think once Luca got
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: that job there, once Luca moved moved to LA I
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: think the riding was on the wall. It was only
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: a matter of time and they couldn't get past that point.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: Like he felt unappreciated now or something.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was a mutual.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't the same regime that hired him.
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  Speaker 2: They changed ownership, they changed the true Yeah.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Uh three oh three five four nine two five. Still
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: a lot to get through Instagram, Go ahead, moje.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: I'm reading Ben Solac Football Rider, NFL rid EESP and
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: good Old Ben Solac, young guy, good rider Ben Solac,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: and he's talking about training camps and he goes to
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: the Denver Broncos trading camp and he's like, what's the
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: most what's the most intriguing thing about the Broncos training camp.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: He basically says, Look, they lost JFM, but they added
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle. We call that a wash in terms of
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: overall team.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: How good they are.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Talking about Bonitts, But the the number one thing right now,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: he says, the biggest thing that he's looking at is
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: the play calling and Davis Webb being moved into that position.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: And the more I thought about it, and I'm reading
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: his article, he makes some points, but I'm not sure
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: I fully agree he says this, He goes, this is
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: a peculiar spot for Web as he's calling plays with
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  Speaker 3: one of the best play callers of the twenty first
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  Speaker 3: century lurking just over his shoulder.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Now, this is something that we've talked about. That is true.
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  Speaker 3: The Broncos want to become faster operationally, and Web taking
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: over the headset should serve that effort.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes?
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: But this is interesting. Is bo Nick's going to be
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: a full go for camp? What do you think?
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Like full go? Ready to go? Full go? Yeah? Okay,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: think so? I hope so? Man, I mean this injury
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was back in January.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: That's right, but let you know, I think I'd like
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: to have confirmation first. But I think it's is also
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: important that if he's calling plays, it's going to be
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: important for the for this team to get on the
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: same page quickly. Nothing not that that they won't be
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: not that they don't have an awesome relationship Nixon Web,
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  Speaker 3: nothing like that, But there are nuances to play calling
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: and nuances to understanding play calling and so on and
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: so forth that are It becomes chemistry, right, It's not
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: just you know, talking and listening. It becomes chemistry correct,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: and that helps operate things even better. But this is
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: this last thing got me thinking, I'm not sure I.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Agree with it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I want to get your take. It says, no matter
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: how much knicks he gets this summer, Web needs a
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: strong start to the regular season. That is true, because
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: the first six games of the.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Year are what.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Impossibly hard, diabolical. It's a diabolical for six weeks. Last line,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: if the Broncos offense feels lesser through September and into
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: in October, don't be surprised if Peyton reclaims play calling responsibilities.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I think all that's fair. I do. And here's here's
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the problem. Okay, I was just talking about this in
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: the Appetizer with young players on the Nuggets and David
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Adelman and then going back to Michael Malone. You have
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to allow young people, no matter what their position is.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: It could be at your job right now, whether you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: do what me and Moser do, whether you're in sales,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: whether you're a teacher, whatever you need to allow people
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: to suffer through mistakes or failure to make them better
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: down the line. You cannot panic when some young person
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: makes a mistake and say you're not allowed to do
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: this anymore. They need to learn from the mistakes how
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: you grow. In the case of Davis Webb, it is
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a can and I have that Sean Payton is going
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to be very hesitant to do that. And here's why.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: In the three years that Sean Payton has been here,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: three glorious years, by the way, you were in playoff
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: contention in year one, you made the playoffs, in year two,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you made the AFC Championship Game. In year three. All
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: of that is a steady incremental incline for what the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Broncos have done since Sean Payton got here. But in
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: those years year one motion you started the year one
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: in five. In year two you started zero to two.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: In year three you started one and two. They have
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: been slow starters under Sean Payton. Now you could add
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: in first year head coach in twenty twenty three, weirdness
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: around the Russell Wilson situation. Okay, fine, year two, Hey,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it's bo Nick's rookie quarterback trying to get his feet
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: under him. That's the reason for the slow start. Okay, fine,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: year three, your two quarterback maybe hit a little bit
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of a wall, people got taped, like all of this
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: different stuff you could make excuses for. Here's the problem, though,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: In the last two years that bo Nix has been there,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you've had games against bad teams in which you've won
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that have kind of buoyed you to start the year.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: The season opener last year where you played, honestly like
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: trash on the offense side.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Well, if it wasn't if it wasn't maybe cam Warden
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: making his first start as a NFL quarterback.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Right, you maybe could lose that game, dude. So you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: win that one by eight. You lose in a battle
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: against Indianapolis the next week, but you lose that game.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: You lose to the Chargers the week after that. You're
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: now one and two. You're given a gift because you
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: play Cincinnati in Week four. They don't have Joe Burrow
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and you walk all over them because they were terrible
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: at that time. And then you start the Philly game.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: You have to make the furious fourth quarter. The Jets
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: game in London was an absolute mess that you squeaked by.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Is that one of the otherest football games you've ever seen.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Outside of the Kendle Hinting game. Yes, okay. And then
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the week after that was the Giants game, of which
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: he scored thirty three in the fourth quarter to win.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: From there on out, you played well, you're okay, but
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that's a slow start. Despite the fact that your record
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: at that time was five and two, it didn't feel
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like it. If you do that this year, you don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: get by the Chiefs like that, you don't get by Jacksonville, okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but you'll get by the Rams at San Francisco, at
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, and then against the Super Bowl champions. They
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: correct and you can put yourself in a deep hole
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: in a very competitive conference and division. And then if
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you're two and four at that point, is Sean Payton like, well,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: shoot man, this isn't working. I got to take that over.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I could totally see it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: That being said, this was a big decision for Sean Payton,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: big huge, and essentially the job doesn't start. I mean, look,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I know you you're now the guy, and I know
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: that you're going through everything with you know, every day
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and go da dah, da da dah. But it really
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't start well, yeah, preseason, okay, fine, but Nick. If
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Nick's plays in the preseason, I'll be blown away.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: He won't.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Peyton plays maybe a series okay, well look, okay,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: maybe you want to give the ankle a test for
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: a series or two. Maybe, but you really don't start
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: until week one, correct, I mean that's when that's when
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: every when you open up the play blo, everything's fine
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: for real and you're calling plays for real and blah
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. So if you've made this huge decision,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you've made this big, big thing and you are and we.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Know that he's a great play caller.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Is Sean Payton. Yeah, you've turned it over because you
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: want more efficiency and whatever it is you think you need.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: How much leash do you give? I mean, what do
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: you give? Three weeks? Do you give eight weeks?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Because I'll also say this, you gotta keep in mind, Brett,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: you're one win away from a Super Bowl appearance. It
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: appears your window is open. And so yeah, if there's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: stumbling out of the gates against six rough and tumble
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: opponents to start the year, but you don't give what
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: you've this big decision that you've made the opportunity to
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: actually work its way through it. I think this is
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: going to be a very tenuous spot in the first
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: month of the regular season.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, this is what you do.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: This is a six to one way half does in
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the other because again we'll see what Kansas City is again.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: But you're not gonna be able to afford to get
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: too far behind in that first six weeks.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You don't give Davis Webb the play sheet or tryout.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: You do that because you believe he is going to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: be the best for your team. Correct. That should not
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: change unless it's an absolute disaster after six weeks. You
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: have to let him live through that you made the decision.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Like to me, are there times where you can do
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: something like that? Sure if you look at it and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you go it is so much of a disaster that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: we just can't continue moving forward. It reminds me like
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: we knew a little over halfway through the year with Hackett.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I don't care that he just signed on this year.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: This guy is not going to be a successful head
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: coach for us. He's just not. So you pull the trigger.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: You know, there's a few times like in Arizona back
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in the day when they drafted Josh Rosen, he played
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: like six games or like, dude, no way. This might
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: be happening in Minnesota right now with JJ McCarthy.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But in most cases, even if a rookie quarterback struggles,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: you say, all right, just let him live through this
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and then see how he comes out.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I think Bryce Young is probably a perfect example of that, right, And.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I think the drug he's still out on Bryce Young,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: but he played better towards the end of the.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Year, or he studied struggled in his first season. Yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and I thought he was markedly improved in your number two.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: But you can't. These to me are permanent decisions. Okay,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: If you take the play sheet away from Davis Webb,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: then you fired Davis web That's it. And I think
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you would be unfair to him, a guy who had
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: head coaching interviews this past year, if you give it
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like a month and a half and then you say, well, yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm taking this back. I don't think you can do
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that too, your colleague, unless again, it's an absolute disaster.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: But if it is that, then it's kind of on
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Sean Payton for making the move in the first place.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think by the way young Bryce Young, he
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: got better in your two and he got even better
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: in your three. So I just think that that, Yeah,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: you're right, you've got to give guys an opportunity to
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: work their way through things. I dig that. But at
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: the same time, if you are strung, they would have
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to struggle mightily. But I think that Sean Payton knows
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and he again has reiterated this many times. Man, we
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: want a lot of close games that could very well
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: go the other way. This year we've got to be
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: even better. So is there going to be pressure? Is
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: there going to be a TikTok TikTok TikTok, And maybe
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: it'll all go swimmingly. I don't What I don't want
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: to take away from the fact is that maybe it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be awesome.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe Webb and.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Nicks are gonna be two p's in a pod and
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that play's gonna get in there and it's gonna be
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: a brilliant play call. They'll marks that ball up and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: down the field and so on. History tells us there's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: probably a little bit of a learning curve, whether it's.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: A little tiny learning curve or it's a large learning curve.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be one, and I hope they have the
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: patience to see it through.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: That's all. Well, I'm just looking up the numbers here.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: As far as yards allowed per game, four of these
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: six teams that you play in the first six weeks
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: are all top eleven defenses in that category. The exceptions
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to that rule is San Francisco, who was a little
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: less than middle of the pack, and the Rams, who
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: are right there in the middle. But the Rams, the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Raps did just get Miles Garrett and they traded for
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie. You would imagine that's going to get better.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Well, hang on, the Rams also score a lot thirty
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: five points ago. How many how many points per game
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: did they score? Let me, I gotta take a look
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: at this, I have to you may maybe you can
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: find it faster than me. You're good at that yards
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: per game. They were at almost four hundred yards per game.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Let me come on, man, points per game they were
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: at thirty and a half. So the La Rams, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: don't care if they've got a middle of the pack defense.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: They led the NFL in offense in most yards per
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: game and most points per game.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Five of this now that I'm looking at this, five
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of the six that you're playing were top ten in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: points allowed per game last year, again with the exception
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: being the Niners were thirteenth. At the worst defense that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you're facing is the thirteenth best defense last year.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, then let me go through this then, just just
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: as a as a an exercise for my own brain.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Could the Chiefs offense be capable of putting up thirty
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: on you? I guess we don't know because they had
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: a really down year.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Sure, but in theory, sure could the Jags, Yeah they
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: did it? Rams, Yes, could the Niners? Yeah? Could the Chargers? Yeah?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Could the Seahawks? Yeah? Okay, so let's say at least.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Five out of those six, but probably six out of
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: six are capable of putting thirty on you on a
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: on a good day for them.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But that's why you have your DV understood, I understood.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: So they're for the top five of the top six
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: are top ten points allowed, and yet they all have
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: offenses that kick ass two.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: No, it's because they're really good teams. Yeah, if you
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have a good offense and a good defense, you're typically
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: pretty good typically pretty pretty pretty good.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: So anyway, I just thought that article was very interesting.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I thought it was you know, it got me to thinking, God, Lee,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: how long is that least? Really, especially when again you
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: have to consider and the expectation is there.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: You are one win away.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: You're one friggin' probably snow squall blizzard away from going
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: here Super Bowl.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Here's a guarantee, whether it's a real conversation or not,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: if you get through the first six weeks, and like
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I said, if they go two and four or something
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like that, and you've lost more games through six weeks
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: than you did the entire season last year, whether it's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: a real convo or not. Within that building, people will
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: talk about Sean Payton taking the play sheet back.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: You know, you guys got me thinking about opportunities lot, right.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: We talk about that a lot in sports, squandering great opportunities.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I gotta ask you, guys, which opportunity was lost more?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Was it last year's AFC title loss the way you
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you know, Bo goes down in a fluke, or most
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: two thousand and five when Pittsburgh came in here, you
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: win that game, I'm confident you win the Super Bowl.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I would have been Seattle in both Super Bowl, Oh mama,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: dude and Plumber guy, man, it would have just been vic.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Do you realize how ugh how cool?
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Do you realize how cool that would have been Jake
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Plummer for Jake Plumber to come get then, because if
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: he does, then there is no Jay Cutler, There is
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: no none of this.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: That lost to and Big Ben is just a baby.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: I'm in the stands. I'm in the stands at that game.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: But third and longs out of his you know, whatt
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: of his tail? Ye at mile high? It was unbol
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it. No, I still can't believe it.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I wasn't here in two thousand and five, but I think.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You weren't alive like on Earth.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I think I was going where Nelly got. I think
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that's what's happening to me. But I would imagine not
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: having your quarterback for the first game in his career.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I know, I know in the game that's before the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, where very clearly the other team was having
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: some problems on offense and their quarterback was hurt too.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. That's tough.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: The reason why I think think two thousand and five
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: was a bigger opportunity lost is because that Broncos team
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: would have beaten the Seattle team.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that this team would have. I'm not
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: sure if.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: They could be this year's.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I don't potentially Dobbins back in the lineup for the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Remember he said he was pad about that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Wait, well, I mean he's said, but how effective after
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: all those weeks off?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: But why do you bring that?
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Listen, that lost, the Baltimore lost these Uh why are
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you bringing this up?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Because because opportunity lost. Sometimes you think about those opportunities.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I think about, you know, not losing to the Lakers
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: with some opportunities lost. I think of so many of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: those moments where fate just one little spin here or there,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: one little role here or there, and it changes everything.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, twenty years from now, we're gonna look
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: back and say, quarterback broke his ankle on the last
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: drive of the game.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Brett without being hit.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Correct. One thing that stands out my mind vicing that game.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: This is two thousand and five, right, Yeah, you cannot believe,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: especially because I'm looking down left. I'm on the Pittsburgh sideline.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: But I'm up here looking down left. You can't believe
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the amount of terrible towels at that stupid football game. Vic,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: How many terrible towels were at the two thousand and
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: five AFC Championship game at Mile High. It was embarrassing, embarrassing. God,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I was pissed that day. I'm like, wait, how'd they
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: even get them in? I would have stripped every one
• 31:39
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• 31:41
  Speaker 3: They're waving their towels, and damn it, that was hard.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: That was a hard day, dude, That was a hard day.
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  Speaker 1: Because I go back to that, Okay, don't you've lost vic?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't think about space, time, existence. He doesn't
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: think about any of that kind of crap. He thinks
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: about making birdies and is somebody gonna come pick up
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: this trampoline I don't want?
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: That's all he thinks about.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, and I hope that my hog doesn't break down
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: on me on the way to my mom's house.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Universes? Do you think I have time in my day
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to just sit there and ponder universes?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I should have known that you don't even know what
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. But that's okay, But Vick, I go
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: back to that January twenty sixth or excuse me, January
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: twenty second, two thousand and six.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Friggin friggin' Rothlessberger.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: He's twenty one of twenty nine for two seventy five
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: and two touches, and Jerome Bettis runs into touchdowns and
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: the Broncos get doubled up thirty four to seventeen. But
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: if they win, can you think about vic how that
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: changes the course of history for the Denver Broncos and
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: what happened all through somebody put it up all through
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the t bow and the manning everything else. What that
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: would have done.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, shan And is still the coach for as
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: long as he wants to be. Yep, Cutler probably isn't
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: here yea if he is the I mean, there's a
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: lot of things that would have happened differently. But that's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: why I say. I mean those little moments, those so
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: close but yet so far moments in sports. We talk
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: about him all the time all the time.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Like if you want a heartbreak, how about this. I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: just watched this video during the break because when.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: The when the Broncos lost to the to the Ravens.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: That's yeah, but there was still other games to be.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't really kind of change the It didn't
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: really change things that one game because then Shanny's feeling
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: it and he needs a new quarterback and then they
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: get off the same pre I mean, god, least so
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: much changed in that one damn game. Oh boy, go ahead.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I watched this video during the break and look, I
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: think it's all it's really cool that this Ryan Fox
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: wins the open. He does, so he's got to he's
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: got to nail the bird. He put on eighteen weird
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: sing he takes home the Clarence jug obviously away.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh did you see that? He had it stuff
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in the overhead compartment. But hey, I'm listening to this body.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: So Cam Young has this amazing Sunday to put himself
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: in position. He was done with the round for over
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: two hours by the time that that putt on eighteen happened.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: There's a video of him, a live shot as he's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: on the driving range because he's like, hey, I got
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: to get ready for a playoff. And he stops and
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: he stands there and he waits, here's the roar of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the crowd, puts his driver back in the bag and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: walks back. And that's got to be a killer feeling,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: like just absolute deflation. He's out there on the range
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: for the last hour, hacking away, just trying to get
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: himself ready and get him back in the zone for
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: this potential playoff to win a major, only to hear
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the crowd go crazy knowing he just lost.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I saw that final pott. I thought he was gonna miss,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: just stop the left edge of the cup, but it
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: reared back, and you're right, but you know that them's
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: are the brakes.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: What what's the best? Taxer says, don't you mean Claret
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: jug it's a joke from the joke. Yeah, it's a joke.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: What's what's the best reaction?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Vic? Do you recall the Open Championship when John Daily won?
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, sick in his mouth seconds later?
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Well, do you recall what do you remember the reaction
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: he was with his then wife. Do you remember what
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: happened for him to have to go to a playoff?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: He had hit a long putt, Very, wasn't it the
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: long putt?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: It was Constantino Rocca who said a hundred one hundred
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: foot pot from the fairway to tie the mother to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: send it to a playoff? And Daily he's like, yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: and then what John did to beat him?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Later though, after that Dayly went out and kicked his
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: ass is what he did.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: But but I mean, if a guy runs like it
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: was like an eighty five maybe it's like eighty five
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: feet from the fairway, and he putted it and over Hill,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: over Dale, our leve will never fail and it drops
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: in the bottom of the number, then that's it's impossible.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Like what I mean, it was impossible. Yet Daily went
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: on out. He gathered himself in, but he smoked him
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and as fit as far as came Young, it's concerned.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Vick and I talked about this because by the time
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: you get the last group's on eighteen, you gotta be
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: thinking you got a pretty good chance of getting a playoff, right,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: And he had botied eighteen to drop back.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: To nine under Cam Young, right, right, But you.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Gotta you gotta have a pretty good feel that, you
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: know what, I got a pretty good chance of being
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: in a playoff here.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know what else? I just saw another video of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Rich Paul who came out and said, these people don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: know anything. Don't listen to any rumor that you've heard
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: all this different stuff, and I'll go back to this.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hold up is for, because
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of waiting for Lebron to make a decision
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: before we can have other decisions to be made. It
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: feels like that's what it's all hinging on. It's is
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: he going to Philly Is he going to Miami? Is
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: he going back to Cleveland? Is is there anybody else
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in the mix? By the way, is there somebody I'm missing?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Is it just Cleveland, Miami and Philly?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Golden State still thinks that old State some play there.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Oh. I saw a thing where Steve Kerr think somebody
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: on the street saw him that pulled up next to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: him and like Lebron, He's.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Like, we got him, Yeah, we got him him. Yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: whatever he said, Rich Paul goes. I'll say it again,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: none of these people know anything. Nobody knows nothing. We
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: haven't made it to where anybody knows or we have.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: We've made it to where nobody knows anything. This isn't
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: about attention. This isn't about creating a spectacle. He has
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a business choice to make and I got I just
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I don't buy it. I think this is about spectacle.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: And I guess if you're a Lebron, no matter what
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you do, it's going to be a spectacle in this
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: free agency game. Whatever. It's just that's how it's gotta be.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: What's the what's the business choice? So long, what's what's.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: The business choice? The money's probably gonna be the same
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: wherever he goes. What's the what's the business choice of this?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: The business aspect is simple, he's you. He's going somewhere
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: where he thinks he can win a championship. I think
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: it's almost decided that he's going to the Eastern Conference
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: because he'd be stupid not to, right. I know that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the defending NBA champion is out of the East, but
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: we can all agree. If if the Knicks played in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: the Western Conference last year and had to go through
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: San Antonio and OKC and Minnesota and the Nuggets and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: everybody else, I don't know if they're coming away with
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the title ast.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: If I could put the Nuggets.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe they Maybe they still do. I don't want to
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: be unfair, but it's just it's so much of a harder. Absolutely,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: if that's the truth.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: If I could temporarily take the Nuggets and put them
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: in the East, I would do it today. It's a
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: lot easier to get there from the East than it
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: is in the West.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I how about this. I don't know.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: If I'd say that the Nuggets would have multiple tie
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they would have multiple finals appearances, correct in this run
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: that they've had with this team. If they were in
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the East. There's no question to me that they would
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: because the teams that have made it, they've been good teams,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: fun teams, all that different stuff. But it's it's nothing
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: like I mean, think about the Nuggets. Own division has
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the Thunder and the t Wolves. It's like that that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: alone is difficult enough. And we've talked about this before,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like it feels like, no matter what league we're talking about,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: every team that resides in our state feels like they
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: play in arguably the hardest division in their respective league.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: What seed were the Knicks? Were they the same seed
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: as the Nuggets?
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think they were the three?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, check it, so they were the same seed. Take
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a look at their path to the finals, the teams
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: they played versus. I mean, obviously the Nuggets din't get pass.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: The first one. Now they played the Hawks, the Sixers,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the Calves, and then the Spurs.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Would you rather play the Hawks in the first round
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: or the te Wolves if you're any NBA time.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I would like to play the Hawks in the first round.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Ironically, it's the only team that He's that gave them
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a fight.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: They were down one true true Hey oh before out,
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I was talking about the fantasy rankings for the NHL.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: McKinnon number one, mccar sixteen. They got Martin Hius at
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: thirty one. Rock Nelson's next on the list. This is
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: just fantasy fantasy points comes in at seventy seven.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: All right, like brock Nelson is say that again.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: He's the twenty sixth ranked center in the league. Rock
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Nelson in terms of you know what, we got thirty
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: two teams and he's a number two. That's pretty damn good.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Who do you think is ranked it seventy eight, right
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: behind brock Nelson.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Uh center, No, just player? Oh Lecky?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: What's his face?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Miko? Who Miko Ramson? Is that you're talking about?
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Y, what's your point? I just thought it was
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: interesting fantasy projection fantasy rank It's one behind old Brockster.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: You have a comes in healthy relationship. Oz comes in
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: at eighty four.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I am I. You know what sucks about the Avs
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: this year is that the Avs are going to be
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: really good again. They are, and then we're gonna get
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to the playoffs and I'm gonna be terrified. I am
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: going to be scarred by that Vegas series for I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: think the rest of my life.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Well, then the Nuggets do the same thing though, I mean,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: they're gonna scar you until they prove they can get
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: through some of these tough playoff teams.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Well, we saw the Nuggets in their flaws and the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: injuries heading into the postseason. Like you can say what
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you want. It was a disappointing and angering series that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: they lost, but not in the way of like I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: never could have foreseen this happening.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, they lost to an injured team.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know. No, the shocking part was them losing
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: game Game six especially, That was the shocking part. I mean,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: but the as but Vic, the Avs were the best
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: team from start to finish in hockey. They went through
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the first two rounds and absolutely steamrolled both of those
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: teams they swept is crazy.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: It was crazy. I think both were crazy in their
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: own respect. Both were crazy. The way the Avs just
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: went from top of the world to oh my god,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and the way the Nuggets were given so much leash.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Like here, here's an injury to Anthony Edwards. Okay, here's
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: another one. Here's an what other injuries here? Yeah? Who
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: is that guy that that came off the bench for him?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: You want to him out he's out too, I know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and it's still lose. Is crazy? Uh, get a quick
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: fact checker, please, Jesse.
• 45:13
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• 45:23
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• 45:24
  Speaker 1: All Right, you guys are talking about sprinters earlier today,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: and uh, I came across his video. I'm gonna play
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: here and bring it across the screen. Mm hmm, oh no,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: oh no sprinting. All right, hang on, here's the video.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Let's see, let's see the most run. Hang on, hang on, Delly,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: all right, full screen it can you do that? Never mind,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: just play it, play it. Here's the Oh my god,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: most that's terrible. That is worse than Patrick Reid, mother
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: in arm mosur, you are one in my closest dearest friend. No,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: you look.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Like a so where's Spinners guy right behind Forrest Gump?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Or that looks like you looks really bad? It does?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It looks like you're hurt and running.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I was in bear feet.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Oh god, you with the excuses again barefoot.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Never do that again, seriously, don't do that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Don't do that to your it wasn't Tom Cruise as
• 46:25
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• 46:28
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• 46:31
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