Latest / Voices for Voices® / Leanna Shields turns challenges into creative opportunities through her clean, cozy mysteries. | Episode 207
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- 0:03Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to another episode of the Voices for Voices TV film podcast.
- 0:07Justin Alan Hayes: I'm your host.
- 0:09Justin Alan Hayes: Founder and Executive Director of Voices for Voices, justin.
- 0:13Leanna Shields: Allen.
- 0:13Justin Alan Hayes: Hayes, thank you for joining us today and for tuning in to our well over 205 episode catalog of shows, and we are we're reaching global, over 50 countries, 150 cities.
- 0:32Justin Alan Hayes: It really grows by the episode and still can't do this without you.
- 0:37Justin Alan Hayes: So thanks for tuning in wherever you're at, whether you're viewing this or whether you're listening on one of the audio platforms as well.
- 0:48Justin Alan Hayes: So we're going to go ahead and jump right in to introduce our guest and we're going to, like we always do, have a conversation and share some information that I think some of our viewers and listeners may be interested in and hopefully will help her career in getting back on track due to, as you've seen on other videos, some unfortunate circumstances.
- 1:27Justin Alan Hayes: So we want to introduce our guest.
- 1:34Justin Alan Hayes: This is a Zoom episode, remote at home, that's why you're seeing a little bit of different in the background than in the studio or from other backgrounds, and so our guest is Leanna Shields.
- 1:49Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us today.
- 1:52Leanna Shields: Thank you for having me on.
- 1:53Leanna Shields: This is a big honor to be on here.
- 2:00Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you to have you choose our platform to be able to share your message, awareness and a little bit about who you are and being a successful author.
- 2:16Justin Alan Hayes: While also being dyslexic, I myself have quite a few mental challenges, from depression to anxiety, adhd and on the shorter spectrum of autism, with lights and sounds really bother me.
- 2:44Justin Alan Hayes: With lights and sounds really, really, really bother me, uh.
- 2:49Justin Alan Hayes: So it's good to uh somebody like like yourself who is really living it every day and you're dealing with that on top of whatever publicity good, bad and different it's it's going on, so you maybe share how you became an author.
- 3:05Leanna Shields: Oh, I've been writing since well.
- 3:10Leanna Shields: Okay, I could go further back and say I've been creating characters since probably the fourth grade.
- 3:15Leanna Shields: I was bullied a lot in grade school which what kid?
- 3:21Leanna Shields: Usually isn't at that age but I had created for myself around 20 different imaginary characters or imaginary friends, and they weren't like the average.
- 3:39Leanna Shields: I just use their quotes for podcast listeners.
- 3:42Leanna Shields: Imaginary friends One was like a winged lion that had three cubs let's see flying rams.
- 3:54Leanna Shields: There were.
- 3:55Leanna Shields: Just they were very unique and I was always interested in mythology and fantasy stuff.
- 4:06Leanna Shields: I call myself a mythology nerd.
- 4:09Leanna Shields: I like to look around at different cultures and see their mythology and sometimes I get really excited if I find similarities between two different cultures in their mythologies.
- 4:31Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, so when you got started, were you nervous, or was this maybe a little bit of an outlet that you were?
- 4:47Leanna Shields: it was more of an outlet because I was homeschooled and, while it does not sound like it, writing was my, my recess.
- 4:53Leanna Shields: Basically, I was homeschooled in high school.
- 4:55Leanna Shields: The public school system was not doing well for me and my mom took me out, decided to quit her job and start her own business to homeschool me best thing that ever happened I actually learned I could learn, because the public school system had not found out I was dyslexic.
- 5:21Leanna Shields: Until again the same age I started creating characters fourth grade.
- 5:26Leanna Shields: I had lost a lot of crucial learning in that time, so yeah, and I think that's, that's a big big part of what.
- 5:39Justin Alan Hayes: How like the optics of on the outside, it's, it's and.
- 5:44Justin Alan Hayes: I think it's still like that and in a lot of instances today, where people want to put individuals with a particular challenge and in a silo or in a box and say, if you have this, if you're dyslexic, then you have all these traits and you can't do this and we're not even going to try and we're going to do things kind of the way we always did things, as opposed to actually leaning in and finding out that you know that clearly you have a ton of talent, and not just for your for yourself, but but to be shared with the world.
- 6:25Justin Alan Hayes: So for people on the outside to say, oh well, leanna is this or Justin is this, and I think it's half the battle, and so for you to persevere through that, I think it's huge for listeners and viewers.
- 6:44Justin Alan Hayes: Life is obviously going to be rocky.
- 6:49Justin Alan Hayes: There's going to be ups and downs, um, and it's harder to maybe at times persevering day at a time, minute at a time's.
- 7:01Justin Alan Hayes: Sometimes all we can really do to continue on.
- 7:06Justin Alan Hayes: And then, as you did find that outlet, you started to understand more that you're able to learn and you're able to do a lot of things that individuals wanted to put you in a box and say, oh, she can't do this.
- 7:21Justin Alan Hayes: So, like when I'm going to offer this particular subject or or this level, because, for whatever reason.
- 7:29Justin Alan Hayes: So I want to say thank you for you know, persevering and even getting through that, because we're finding a lot of people that that that kind of holds people up, um, and saying, okay, well, what am I going to do about it?
- 7:44Justin Alan Hayes: Who's going to listen to me?
- 7:45Justin Alan Hayes: Who's going to be on my side?
- 7:48Justin Alan Hayes: And that's part of the organization.
- 7:50Justin Alan Hayes: Voices for Voices is to be able to give platform to people like yourself.
- 7:57Justin Alan Hayes: That you're completely fine, we all are.
- 8:03Justin Alan Hayes: Every human being has some thing going on, and whether it's diagnosed or not, so thank you for that.
- 8:14Justin Alan Hayes: So that's, I think, a big thing to have persevered and kept that confidence with you to this day.
- 8:26Leanna Shields: Yeah, and when it comes to even the dyslexia, it has.
- 8:35Leanna Shields: Actually, I don't.
- 8:37Leanna Shields: One thing that's helped me is finding great editors.
- 8:41Leanna Shields: With writing is finding editors who actually love your characters and can see the the life in them.
- 8:53Leanna Shields: Shall we say, when I first started writing uh, my series mystic ranch mysteries which I love writing, by the way, it's one of my favorite things I ever wrote I I started with sci-fi and that was fun, but I am not well versed in the sci-fi world, shall we say.
- 9:22Justin Alan Hayes: I am more versed in the fantasy world, um, but actually Mystic Ranch was one of my scariest projects, for decided to write a Native American character because I don't see those very often in fiction right, agree, and you wanted to be, you wanted to have representation of your, your heritage, your background, and I think that's that that probably made things a little bit easier from that, because there's certain things you might not have to research as much because you have that innate knowledge of that oh, it was still a lot of research, because I was not as fully raised in it as as you might expect.
- 10:32Leanna Shields: Um, for, like my third book, I had to research.
- 10:37Leanna Shields: And don't get me wrong when I say research, it wasn't boring research, it wasn't slogging through.
- 10:43Leanna Shields: For me it was just like, oh, input, input, input, and I had to research, uh, the wedding customs for the chakta, like they they're used.
- 11:01Leanna Shields: They used to have a special wedding dance that was fascinating to research yeah, and I think what you just explained there where it's work.
- 11:18Justin Alan Hayes: But it was interesting work so it didn't as much feel it didn't feel as much like work where it's just looking into something that you have no idea about, that you're not interested in, and so by having that interest, I think that is.
- 11:40Justin Alan Hayes: That is helpful, and I think some of our viewers and listeners can really just listen and watch and they don't always have to go super one way or another.
- 11:56Justin Alan Hayes: There might be things that they're already doing, that they're a part of that they can do.
- 12:02Justin Alan Hayes: That they can do.
- 12:03Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe they don't have to have as much education or certificates or whatever those things may be.
- 12:10Justin Alan Hayes: They might not have to have, and so that's great You're able to do that.
- 12:17Justin Alan Hayes: And is that book available by chance, phil?
- 12:21Leanna Shields: Oh yes, all of the Mystic Ranch Mysteries, uh, book one through three, are currently available on amazon.
- 12:29Leanna Shields: Uh, book one is sparks of suspicion, book two is stock show stalker, and book three is curses and vows and how?
- 12:39Justin Alan Hayes: about how?
- 12:40Justin Alan Hayes: Many pages, just for um ball.
- 12:45Leanna Shields: They run around 150 to 200 pages.
- 12:48Leanna Shields: Okay, sparks of Suspicion is the longest, because, well, it's the first book and has the most to say and the most to introduce, right yeah.
- 12:59Justin Alan Hayes: Right yeah, and by allowing us to be able to talk to you and speak with you and get your experience and what you love and what you like to do, and let people know about the work that you have done and then the work that you're you're still doing, because there's, as as we know, um, some publicity, some press that's out there and in in the space where, uh, where you're currently uh a little bit, and so we want to definitely wrap our arms around you to be able to highlight these types of things because your books are clean, they are for age appropriate, which is part of what the publicity and that's been with what our listeners and viewers have probably seen the last couple weeks heavily.
- 14:09Justin Alan Hayes: And so yeah so Leanna's books, they're clean, they're age-appropriate, so whatever ages she says they're for, that's where the content is.
- 14:21Justin Alan Hayes: And so children, whatever those ages may be, and you can maybe explain a little bit of that um and and why it's so important to you to have well, I write cozy mysteries.
- 14:37Leanna Shields: Um, well, I write cozy mysteries and I I love them because they are as you said.
- 14:49Leanna Shields: They're clean, they um.
- 14:52Leanna Shields: A cozy mystery has a very set set of rules there.
- 14:56Leanna Shields: There's no sex on the page uh, keeping cussing to him too mild.
- 15:06Leanna Shields: If there is any, um, being murder itself is not seen on screen.
- 15:11Leanna Shields: Um, they're a very good way to just escape and you get a sense of a little community and getting to know the characters through their day-to-day and there just happens to be a little mystery that the main character has to solve.
- 15:36Leanna Shields: They're good for, I'd say, junior high strong reader to up.
- 15:50Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, yeah.
- 15:52Leanna Shields: And I only say strong reader, because I tend to get a little wordy sometimes.
- 15:56Leanna Shields: Oh, I do.
- 16:00Justin Alan Hayes: It's like condense, you don't need to.
- 16:04Leanna Shields: You can do it a different way.
- 16:05Justin Alan Hayes: So, yeah, I totally grasp that Junior high reader and above, and I think that's just so important to have good, plain written stories that actually align with what what age is and where they're at in school.
- 16:31Justin Alan Hayes: Um, you know, we see advertisements on tv or youtube and everything's made to look the absolute best possible but then when you go to buy it it's like wait, that cheeseburger is not that big, or the fries or the car doesn't look as fine when I go to the dealer or what have you.
- 16:50Justin Alan Hayes: And so there's a little bit of I think a little bit of bait there's.
- 16:54Justin Alan Hayes: I understand more than you and David that fall into that boat.
- 17:13Justin Alan Hayes: They're like, hey, we're writing good, clean stories and we don't want to be kind of caught up in what's happening, which is a little bit of the fruit of how this interview came about.
- 17:33Justin Alan Hayes: And again, thank you for allowing us to be able to just talk to you and get your feedback, good experiences, and then definitely be able to share, if there's other books, other stories, how people can get in touch with you, how they can get in touch with your work where they can find it, because we want to uplift people, we want to take people down.
- 18:03Justin Alan Hayes: We want to uplift people, and somebody like yourself that is putting your hard-earned time, attention, resources into the work that you do deserves to have a fair shake on things.
- 18:17Justin Alan Hayes: So yeah, other stories, other things that maybe are in the works.
- 18:26Justin Alan Hayes: People can look out for just kind of plug, whatever you want.
- 18:36Leanna Shields: Well, I have a lot of irons in the fire.
- 18:39Leanna Shields: Let's say say, um, I not only write, but I also run a podcast called cappy's cozy chair where I interview you all authors, in the cozy genre, which it goes beyond the mysteries that I write.
- 18:57Leanna Shields: Um, there's hey, if anyone out there writes cozy sci-fi, cozy romance, cozy spy fiction which I just learned is a thing please reach out to me through.
- 19:12Leanna Shields: I need to update my website for the show because I recently changed the name of the show from the cozy the sleuth to cappy's cozy cat, the cozy sleuthcom, and I will get back to you.
- 19:27Leanna Shields: Yeah, um, also, I'm.
- 19:34Leanna Shields: I've got tons of other stories out there.
- 19:36Leanna Shields: Uh well, not tons, but I do have my first ever science fiction book that I wrote when I was just getting out of college, and it's called the illustrious chronicles slaves redeemed.
- 19:56Leanna Shields: Um, that was a fun one to write.
- 19:59Leanna Shields: That was my first ever sci-fi.
- 20:01Leanna Shields: I also have a steampunk that was fun to write called the Clockwork Golem, and a steampunk mystery set in the 1920s called the Art of Facts.
- 20:15Leanna Shields: Kind of think Indiana Jones meets.
- 20:23Leanna Shields: I'm trying to think of something that A really good example of steampunk, but basically the main character is a black woman who's an archaeologist in the 1920s a steampunk, sci-fi 1920s and that one was a lot of fun to write.
- 20:43Leanna Shields: She goes to Australia to look at a mysterious cave and whole lots of adventures with that.
- 20:54Leanna Shields: I'm also currently working on I haven't named it yet, but the main character is a kind of a werecat who runs a music and ice cream parlor in a small corner of it's going to be another mystery, so I got a lot of stuff going on yeah, and it keeps you.
- 21:24Justin Alan Hayes: I bet it keeps you busy that well, maybe there's a holding pattern on one project.
- 21:31Justin Alan Hayes: Because you're working on you know that we can only really truly focus on one thing at a time where it's good.
- 21:39Justin Alan Hayes: And I find, like even with myself, if there's multiple episodes that I'm editing and getting ready, that I can be at a different point where, oh well, I have the, I have the watermark, or I have certain with GoPro cameras and others, where they actually put up a 30 minute show into usually three or four smaller segments, and so it's that whole.
- 22:06Justin Alan Hayes: You got to merge all that together and it, and so there's just there's things that not everybody thinks about.
- 22:13Justin Alan Hayes: They think they see, you know they see us and listen to us and and think they're like, oh yeah, like a podcast, a tv show, and you know, there there's not much to it and it's good to have that look, because that means we're doing something right.
- 22:29Justin Alan Hayes: But there is still other things, as as with with with writing and creating characters that you have to have a character name and there has to be, I'm sure, like a I don't want to call like a card, but like a little profile, and you know, as you're doing things, so it's not as easy as like, oh okay.
- 22:49Justin Alan Hayes: Well, that would have been easy to write.
- 22:51Justin Alan Hayes: It's a little bit more, a little bit more in depth than that absolutely, um, the way I write is.
- 23:02Leanna Shields: I found a quote once that I love for describing the way I write.
- 23:07Leanna Shields: I create the character and then from then on, I take dictation.
- 23:11Leanna Shields: So a character will come like, say, my current character that I'm working on Leorna McSell is is her name and she comes, tells me your name.
- 23:26Leanna Shields: The rest of it is just basically me following her and it's like okay, I see what funny, because, oh yeah, editing goes with it.
- 23:51Leanna Shields: So much I often say it's amazing that my editors aren't just shaking their fists at the screen cursing my name, because I am horrible with punctuation.
- 24:04Leanna Shields: I second that for me, I like to say, when it comes to my punctuation, I am ancient Greek.
- 24:16Leanna Shields: There is no punctuation.
- 24:19Leanna Shields: That's accurate.
- 24:28Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and I think that's good for others to watch and listen to.
- 24:30Justin Alan Hayes: You don't have to be an expert on every single aspect that you know if your car's not working, you want to take it to a mechanic and the like the things that we're good at we try to do ourselves and things that we're good at we try to do ourselves, and things that we may need a little bit of help.
- 24:50Justin Alan Hayes: But it's not a bad thing If we need help.
- 24:53Justin Alan Hayes: Obviously a book needs editing.
- 24:59Justin Alan Hayes: So it's kind of like, okay, you're going to do it or ask for that help, and being able to streamline those types of like okay, are you going to do it or ask for that help and being able to streamline those types of things at this point in your career, those are probably things you don't have to think about as much Because you know when you get to a certain milestone, you know that, okay, at this point, here's who I have to reach out to, here's what I need to do, whereas when you got started in the early years, you're still feeling that out.
- 25:34Justin Alan Hayes: I think that's important, no matter what it is.
- 25:37Justin Alan Hayes: If it's writing a book, if it's mental health, asking for help is not a bad thing.
- 25:51Leanna Shields: Absolutely.
- 25:51Leanna Shields: People say writing is a solitary venture.
- 25:54Leanna Shields: I find it's absolutely the opposite.
- 25:57Leanna Shields: Just like anything, you need your community around you.
- 26:09Leanna Shields: You need those who are experts in punctuation in something that you're not an expert in.
- 26:12Leanna Shields: Like.
- 26:13Leanna Shields: At one time, I needed my character to ride through a certain kind of rodeo event.
- 26:18Leanna Shields: Well, I had a friend who raises horses and did rodeo events.
- 26:23Leanna Shields: I gave her that scene and it's like is this uh realistic?
- 26:33Leanna Shields: Is this accurate?
- 26:41Justin Alan Hayes: yeah, no, it's excellent.
- 26:42Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and so we're coming to the close of our time.
- 26:46Justin Alan Hayes: Can you reiterate your podcast?
- 26:50Justin Alan Hayes: The books where they can be found and where to maybe get a?
- 26:55Justin Alan Hayes: They're able to follow you if you want to share social media or whatever you would prefer.
- 27:13Leanna Shields: Of course, my show is Cappy's Cozy Chair.
- 27:19Leanna Shields: Um, my books are the Mystic Ranch Mysteries, all available on Amazon, and most of my books will come up.
- 27:34Leanna Shields: You can also follow me on my website, leannashieldsauthorcom.
- 27:43Leanna Shields: And oh, that's another thing I need to update and get a real hitch on on.
- 27:53Leanna Shields: But yeah, you're good you will get news about what's going on with my books all that yeah, I'm pretty easy to find and talk to on social media.
- 28:04Leanna Shields: I'm, I'm there and just find me yeah, and, and you write it's gonna.
- 28:13Justin Alan Hayes: You write under your name, uh, right, so I mean Leanna Shields is where people are gonna be able to find you, like ghost writing it is.
- 28:22Justin Alan Hayes: Is that something that you have done or you?
- 28:27Justin Alan Hayes: You prefer to have your, your name?
- 28:29Leanna Shields: I've never ghostwritten.
- 28:30Leanna Shields: I always write my.
- 28:31Leanna Shields: I always write my main books under my name.
- 28:34Leanna Shields: I did write a couple children's books um curly pugsley, curly and pugsley's big adventure and curly and Pugsley's Big Adventure and Curly and Pugsley's Christmas Adventure under a pen named Anna Lee Shields, to sound more children's book friendly, yeah.
- 28:56Justin Alan Hayes: No no great.
- 28:58Leanna Shields: Do we miss?
- 28:58Justin Alan Hayes: anything that you were trying to share and get the word out.
- 29:04Leanna Shields: No, I think we covered everything no.
- 29:07Justin Alan Hayes: I think we covered everything Okay.
- 29:08Leanna Shields: I think we covered everything.
- 29:10Justin Alan Hayes: Okay, well, thank you so much, leanna, for stepping out and talking.
- 29:17Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, it's just a huge thing, no matter what, wherever somebody's at is, to come forward and to talk about the work, because there are good authors, there are good people that have books and content available that not everybody is in a different boat that there are.
- 30:08Justin Alan Hayes: There's good people, and so that's why we wanted to have you on because you're you're a good person and thank you again for being on well.
- 30:26Leanna Shields: Thank you for the opportunity.
- 30:28Leanna Shields: It's been great, and I don't get to be on this side of the microphone very often right, yeah, you're opposite, so, yeah, well, great.
- 30:37Justin Alan Hayes: Well, leanna shield has been our guest today.
- 30:40Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, whether you're watching, listening thanks again for for tuning in whether this is your first episode or you've been with us for the whole ride Check out Leanna Shields' work, help her.
- 30:57Justin Alan Hayes: Check out her books.
- 31:00Justin Alan Hayes: If you're able to make a purchase or two, uh, you'll please do clean books written for age appropriate, uh, age appropriate people and individuals.
- 31:12Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, check out her podcast and and, uh, if you're, if you're interested, definitely, uh, follow her.
- 31:20Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, check out her website and more to come on that.
- 31:25Justin Alan Hayes: So more is going to be added, and so next time, until next time.
- 31:30Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us and please be a voice for you or somebody in need.