Latest / The Tight Curls Project / The Educator's Crown
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- 0:07Hello and welcome to the Tight Curls Project podcast.
- 0:10I'm your host, Shadia Oshodi, and I have an amazing guest with me today.
- 0:15She is an award-winning STEM educator, entrepreneur.
- 0:18She's also someone who is a fabulous and fashionable and my amazing friend, Claire Benton.
- 0:24she is someone who is always changing hair.
- 0:27So we love to have you here today, Claire.
- 0:29So welcome.
- 0:30Thank you, thank you, thanks so much for inviting me.
- 0:33And I didn't realize how important my hair was to me until you brought it to my attention about me switching hairstyles and that's just talking about hair in general.
- 0:42So I'm really grateful to be here.
- 0:44Wonderful, yes.
- 0:45So we can just dive right into your hair story and find out about you and how you're living your best life.
- 0:50Where your hair is not the center of your life, but something you enjoy and make work for your lifestyle.
- 0:55So that's something I really appreciate and I wanna share with everyone.
- 0:59Okay, okay.
- 1:00Yeah.
- 1:01So, first question.
- 1:02Let's start with taking a walk back to early Claire.
- 1:07So I just wanna know, you know, what did you think about hair when you were in school?
- 1:11Maybe that's elementary school or...
- 1:13Middle school, what were some of your early impressions about your hair?
- 1:17Okay, let's see.
- 1:18Early Claire, you know what?
- 1:20I had my family, my mother is someone who they care about image, right?
- 1:25How you look, know, put earrings on before you leave the house.
- 1:29how you look is important.
- 1:31And I actually had an aunt that did hair.
- 1:34So for as long as I can remember, my mom was doing my hair on Sunday nights.
- 1:37And then that progressed to my stepmom putting braids in my hair, like braids and beads in my hair.
- 1:44I should have gave you one of those pictures.
- 1:46I'll find that for you.
- 1:48If I had called her and asked her to braid my hair now, she would.
- 1:53And then that progressed into going to my aunt's hair salon.
- 1:56And me and all my sisters would go every Saturday, every other Saturday, and we were all sitting there for hours and get our hair done.
- 2:04for as long as I could remember, getting your hair done was a thing.
- 2:09then I ventured into the world of perms.
- 2:11Okay.
- 2:12I had a mother that waited and so.
- 2:15What What grade do you think?
- 2:15Had to be fourth grade.
- 2:16And I wanted to get one.
- 2:17I wanted to get one.
- 2:18And, you know, it wasn't because the other Black girls had perms.
- 2:24I went to a very rural elementary school.
- 2:27So it was way more Hispanic or white girls than Black girls in the school.
- 2:33And so all the Black girls hung out together, you know.
- 2:35But also we were really mixed.
- 2:36We hung out with each other.
- 2:37It wasn't as separated as some other schools could be.
- 2:41But I wanted a perm because I...
- 2:44had a white best friend and she could swing her hair and I wanted to swing my hair.
- 2:50And when I got my perm, my hair was longer than all of their hair.
- 2:54Little Claire got in trouble.
- 2:56Yes, little Claire got in trouble at lunchtime for flinging her hair around like too much.
- 3:03I had a teacher come up to me and say, okay, like, you know, your hair looks really nice, but we probably need to leave it alone.
- 3:08And I was thinking, hmm, hater.
- 3:11Great.
- 3:11Let me be great, dog on it.
- 3:13But yeah, my formative years are just filled with getting your hair done.
- 3:19that's kind of all I knew.
- 3:20And then as I went to middle school and high school, I could go on forever on this topic, just to be clear.
- 3:25Anything that stuck out or people that influenced how you thought about hair?
- 3:29Yeah, for sure.
- 3:30So after elementary school, I would say middle school, I had a stepmom that would say, just go in the mirror and play with the curling iron.
- 3:38And I would.
- 3:39I would just go in the mirror and curl it all different ways.
- 3:42And she would tell me about when she first, you know, was getting into doing her hair, she would curl her hair all different ways and say hey to herself in the mirror.
- 3:49And so I was like, oh.
- 3:50So I think that was the beginning of playing.
- 3:53freedom, uniqueness, the expression, the connectivity it is to yourself, I think came from her saying, you know, yes, I curl my hair and speak to myself in the mirror when I do so.
- 4:05that was the beginning of playing.
- 4:06That was middle school.
- 4:08That's fun.
- 4:08I love that.
- 4:09So you are enjoying it.
- 4:10I was enjoying it.
- 4:11And I was luckily enough to have a parent that let me just try all the different styles.
- 4:19My mom definitely described me as someone who was a hyper independent kid.
- 4:23I remember it when I was four years old, I told her, okay, mom, I can walk myself inside.
- 4:29And she was like, no, can't.
- 4:31Right?
- 4:32You can't walk yourself inside.
- 4:34You're four.
- 4:35Right.
- 4:36So I think her
- 4:37thinking that she was going to stop me from experimenting with my hair.
- 4:40Like it didn't make sense.
- 4:42And then I went to Dudley High School and Dudley High School, historically black high school and there a value of ours was absolutely self-expression and how you looked and
- 4:54what makeup you had, what makeup you didn't have.
- 4:56so.
- 4:57Was that a fun thing?
- 4:58Was it a stressful thing?
- 4:59Both.
- 5:01It was definitely stressful because it was a level of keep up, a level of eyes, but not on everyone.
- 5:07It was what I chose.
- 5:09I chose to go in the lane of, I want to look this way.
- 5:13I want to do this thing.
- 5:14And those were some of the people that I hung out with.
- 5:16it was a choice.
- 5:17You definitely have your emo girl that you think is cool.
- 5:20What was your, what would, would you describe your crew?
- 5:23Okay, my high
- 5:24you girls or are the...
- 5:26You know, it's very mixed.
- 5:28My high school crew was my middle school crew.
- 5:31So the middle school crew went to high school, but we all did different things.
- 5:34I was in the band.
- 5:36They played basketball.
- 5:38We were just kind of did our own thing.
- 5:40So I kind of hopped around friend groups.
- 5:43I definitely had my band group.
- 5:44I definitely had my nerd crew that I call when it's time to get work done.
- 5:48You know, I definitely had the neighborhood kids.
- 5:52that I hung out with, so was across the board.
- 5:55But when we graduated, I did get most likely to become America's Next Top Model.
- 6:01Oh, I never knew that.
- 6:04Okay.
- 6:04So this is about how you looked, how you carry yourself.
- 6:08you, did you have a walk?
- 6:10You had, fits before they were called fits
- 6:12Oh, fits for sure.
- 6:15Absolutely.
- 6:16I was in the modeling troupe in high school.
- 6:18High school.
- 6:19Yes, you got that.
- 6:20We did not.
- 6:21And, but on top of like, that image was a separate thing.
- 6:25My own personal self enjoyed the play of clothes.
- 6:30I enjoyed the play of clothes and whether someone else liked it or not, I liked it and I was going to wear it.
- 6:38And that went into my hair.
- 6:41Am I going to wear braids today?
- 6:42Am I going to
- 6:43wrap my hair and unwrap it every night because then the flat wraps were a whole thing.
- 6:47And so we would wrap our hair up and unwrap it at night.
- 6:51What do you mean by flat wrap?
- 6:52I know you're wrapping your hair, right?
- 6:54Wrapping around, brushing it around.
- 6:56work with around your head.
- 6:59So then my aunt was still doing my hair.
- 7:01So I would go to the salon.
- 7:02She would, she would curl it or whatever, and I would wrap my head around at night.
- 7:08And some people would put bobby pins in it, but I had my little black mesh with the Velcro that I would, you know, in front.
- 7:15go to sleep at night, wake up in the morning, comb it down.
- 7:18Or some people would like comb it down on the bus or they got to the bathroom.
- 7:23We had to be fresh, a fresh fall out.
- 7:28And then there was also a style girls of different hair lengths had to if your hair was short, you could still brush it down.
- 7:36And it's cute.
- 7:37If your hair was long, you could brush it down and it was cute.
- 7:40So the flat wrap was heavily.
- 7:42So when was this?
- 7:4307.
- 7:4408, 09 flat raps were in high school.
- 7:48And you know, it wasn't until my junior year of high school that we started to think about natural hair.
- 7:55Okay, How did that come about?
- 7:57So The Natural came about.
- 7:59I had an 11th grade English teacher, Miss Guynes.
- 8:03Shout out to Miss Guynes.
- 8:04So she had a fro and we were all like confused by her fro.
- 8:09And so one day we asked questions and we were like, how do you get your hair like that?
- 8:15And she said, what?
- 8:16Like she was so shocked.
- 8:18She was frustrated at us.
- 8:19She said, what?
- 8:20This is how the hair goes out of my hair.
- 8:22Wait, you're confused about why her hair wasn't straight?
- 8:26We were like, how did you get, put rollers in your hair?
- 8:29And we were so confident.
- 8:31We were like, you put rollers in your hair to make it do like that?
- 8:34You we were trying to get, I just don't think it was prevalent.
- 8:39uh who's okay.
- 8:41living single, maybe the mom.
- 8:43Maxine buy she had, she had, she had braids all the time
- 8:46And we have braids.
- 8:47We like braids.
- 8:48Yes.
- 8:48Yeah, that's true.
- 8:50You're like, okay, let me name the 90 shows.
- 8:52Yeah, I just can't think of one who had a or if it was maybe it was a cartoon and cartoon fro and real fro it just
- 9:02That's fascinating.
- 9:04I didn't really think about that.
- 9:05That's true.
- 9:06No.
- 9:06And as a matter of fact, when your perm grew out too far, you needed to get a perm that nappy that your nappy roots Right.
- 9:14their perception around the hair that grew out your head, needed to perm that you pass due for a So we were trying, we were so confident that she used the small rollers to get her
- 9:26hair like that.
- 9:27So you're having this conversation, she's trying to tell you, it grows out of her head like that.
- 9:32And then, you know, how did that impact you guys?
- 9:34We were shocked and then we started to try to mimic it in a way that we could.
- 9:42Aww.
- 9:43Yeah, she would wear stockings, like she would cut the end of a stocking and tie it around her hair and push it back and the fro would be behind the stocking.
- 9:51And so we started cutting the end of our stockings, tying it around our hair and pushing it back on our little perm edges.
- 9:57You're trying to emulate her.
- 9:59Yes.
- 10:00The other black teachers in the building, most of the other, you know, women in the building were black.
- 10:06We had one with weave.
- 10:07We knew infamously wore wigs.
- 10:10We had one that had a mean, she had a mean flat iron game.
- 10:15Like we could tell she flicked that wrist hard and it flipped back, you know, mean flat iron game.
- 10:22or, or just styles that we didn't look heavy at.
- 10:25Like, so that was the first time I encountered natural hair.
- 10:28And it was great.
- 10:30It was super interesting.
- 10:31That is amazing.
- 10:33Okay.
- 10:33So then when did you go natural?
- 10:35I went natural at 26, 27.
- 10:41My younger sister, is a fashion, not fashionista, I would say, but she's glam, makeup, hair.
- 10:47Like if I need consultation on these things, I go to her first.
- 10:51She just stopped getting perms.
- 10:53But she also was a heavy sew-in girl.
- 10:56She would wear sew-in she would wear weave.
- 10:59We didn't know she just stopped getting perms.
- 11:01just noticed she was just wearing sew-ins And then we talked about it she's, yeah, I haven't got permanent like three years, Claire.
- 11:09but her concept of natural was not from this earthy, get back to myself, I don't want those harsh chemicals.
- 11:17It was just, I'm braiding it up to put it under weave.
- 11:21That's it.
- 11:21That was as far as her connection went to having natural hair.
- 11:26And she didn't want to spend the time or the effort to do it or...
- 11:28Correct.
- 11:29Even now her hair is natural, but What do we call it?
- 11:32She's a straight.
- 11:33her hair out, but she wears it straight.
- 11:34Okay.
- 11:35She trained it.
- 11:36She's heat trained it and it looks good.
- 11:37And she doesn't have a perm.
- 11:40That was, so I thought, dag.
- 11:43So I started transitioning.
- 11:45I was teaching middle school then.
- 11:47I was, it was my fourth year teaching.
- 11:51I started transitioning and I would just get rod curlers.
- 11:57So, your rod set.
- 11:58So, I wouldn't get a perm, but I would just get a rod set on top of the new growth to kind of make it look like a fro or a look.
- 12:05And then that got to not be cute.
- 12:08So, then for a year, I wore braids.
- 12:13Consistently, I wore braids.
- 12:14And my idea was, when you're teaching in front of kids, your image is important.
- 12:20And so, I thought, I do not want to go in front of those kids and look like Florida Evans.
- 12:25With my big chop, I just was not a big chop.
- 12:29You are not a big job job girle Okay.
- 12:32Fascinating.
- 12:33You didn't want the questions for that.
- 12:35Do think the kids would ask questions or they would taunt you?
- 12:37Like what was your concern?
- 12:39Oh, yeah, especially teaching high school.
- 12:42Absolutely.
- 12:43Like I had a relationship with my kids, but you see, I'm seeing Miss Benton's fro, like they would say something to me.
- 12:49Absolutely.
- 12:50And so after the year of braids, when I took the braids out, finally, I was in middle school.
- 12:56I taught middle school students at that time.
- 12:58And so I took it out.
- 13:00cut it off the relaxer.
- 13:02So that was my big chop.
- 13:03just wasn't as low as a Florida Evans.
- 13:05But I went to a, I think the salon name is Taji they specialize in big chops at the time, natural big chops.
- 13:14So I paid the money, paid it $200.
- 13:16Like, let me go, you know, learn something.
- 13:18Cause I didn't know how to take care of my natural hair.
- 13:21And I went in the next day.
- 13:23and one of my students said, Ms.
- 13:25you look like a sheep.
- 13:26Wow
- 13:28So I stopped class and I said, Hey, yes, I do have a different hairstyle.
- 13:33You know, you guys are used to me having braids.
- 13:36Did anybody have questions about my hair?
- 13:39It was a sixth grade.
- 13:51Who
- 13:42He said, yeah, looks like a sheep.
- 13:45know?
- 13:45And I decided not to be offended because that was the only reference point.
- 13:50Yes.
- 13:51But I asked the rest of the kids, hey, do you all have any questions about my hair or anything like that?
- 13:58Exactly.
- 13:58Exactly.
- 13:59Like no need to be offended.
- 14:00If I'm the only person that you sing with an Afro, that's fine.
- 14:03Exactly.
- 14:05And all the rest of the kids did not care.
- 14:07Nobody cared.
- 14:08It was just that one kid.
- 14:11I thought I looked like a sheep.
- 14:13They're like, carry on, carry on, let's go.
- 14:15Especially you teaching advanced kids.
- 14:17What are we talking about math?
- 14:19What does your hair got to do with anything?
- 14:21So we did you feel okay after that to wear your hair natural was there adjustment period?
- 14:25I needed that one kid to say it.
- 14:28I that one kid to say it out loud and then I was okay.
- 14:33And that's so funny.
- 14:34I thought that I wanted nobody to say it, but I needed somebody to acknowledge
- 14:38Acknowledge the difference, right?
- 14:40Also?
- 14:41Yeah.
- 14:41absolutely.
- 14:42So he acknowledged it.
- 14:44I think I had some other teachers in the building.
- 14:46They're like, you know, I like your hair.
- 14:48But yeah, that was when I big chopped it and it wasn't for the Evans.
- 14:52Shout out to Florida Evans.
- 14:53She's a baddie.
- 14:55I just didn't want her hair style.
- 14:57And yeah, and so it was fine.
- 15:00It was great.
- 15:02love that.
- 15:02That's amazing.
- 15:03So, I'm guessing that even when you're natural, this continued that you would try different styles, right?
- 15:09So, that increase?
- 15:11Did you feel like you had flexibility with your natural hair
- 15:14So in college, before I was thinking about chopping off anything, I came back every week with a new braid style.
- 15:21Oh.
- 15:23Yeah, because I lived in the city.
- 15:25I was from the city that I went to college in.
- 15:27So my hairstylist was there.
- 15:31So every week, every other week, I would come with my hairstyles.
- 15:34When I went natural, it did take me a minute to figure out how to take care of it.
- 15:41It took me a minute to figure out how to take care of it, what I could and couldn't do.
- 15:44what my image was as an adult with natural hair.
- 15:50And then, you know, The thought, your hair is not done because it's a little more natural.
- 15:56Who would you, would you get that from other people or you, that was an idea that you had to change in your mind.
- 16:01Other people, other people, you got to know my, my mom was not a natural girl.
- 16:07She, has a looser curl.
- 16:09Yeah.
- 16:10Yeah.
- 16:10It's a looser curl.
- 16:11Yeah.
- 16:12And, so she really never had to perm her hair, but she did.
- 16:15She did get perms.
- 16:17Still, it was the thought of your hair is not done.
- 16:21just from in the community, you know, there was a new thing, even though it wasn't a new thing, it was a new thing in my, in my circle, in my world.
- 16:30so then I finally figured out how to take care of it.
- 16:35It got long enough for me to coil out.
- 16:37I would say I was less experimental those first five years, first four or five years.
- 16:44How would you wear it?
- 16:45Like a wash and go
- 16:46would wake up in the morning, would choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo choo
- 16:55you, thank you.
- 16:55For the listeners, yes.
- 16:59Is it similar to how you're wearing your hair now?
- 17:01Because this is, or is this, you would do less style?
- 17:04Yes, yes, this is way more styled.
- 17:07So now you have like, I would say, described as a styled wash and go.
- 17:10Yes.
- 17:11Where you've like applied the product in sections, you've done some coiling maybe around your fingers and laid it the way you want it
- 17:18The three, the three, um, row comb.
- 17:24To pull it out, sit in a dryer, have the right products.
- 17:28Yes.
- 17:30That's now, but that was not happening in those first four or five years.
- 17:35Um, I just didn't, I didn't know.
- 17:38I didn't look it up.
- 17:40Yeah, there wasn't a great amount of information.
- 17:44Correct.
- 17:44And then there's the thought of if you go natural, you don't have to do your hair.
- 17:49That's interesting, right?
- 17:50It's just, but did you find that to be true?
- 17:53No.
- 17:53the opposite.
- 17:55It's more energy, it's more thought.
- 17:58It's more more time.
- 18:01Okay.
- 18:01And why do you think that is?
- 18:03Just curious.
- 18:05I mean, societally or from society, I think that We are just beginning to learn more how we want to look with our natural hair or reframing our minds.
- 18:18What is cute?
- 18:19What is pretty?
- 18:20What is, I look good with.
- 18:23I would agree with that.
- 18:24I see that too.
- 18:26Because it can be a big change.
- 18:28Because I remember for myself, like, I don't know what my texture is like.
- 18:32I haven't had my natural texture since I was 12.
- 18:34So don't know what the curls look like.
- 18:36We weren't looking at them.
- 18:38So I was in braids or I had my hair pressed.
- 18:40I was not...
- 18:41We weren't just wearing it loose and free.
- 18:43Or you're a little kid and you're wearing it in like, you know, bows and little ponytails and things.
- 18:47Absolutely.
- 18:48So, yeah, how do you associate what you have with, is a look that worked for me when you've never seen yourself in those and you don't know how to do it because it's a whole
- 18:59new texture.
- 18:59oh
- 19:00don't know what products to buy.
- 19:02So it definitely was a learning curve.
- 19:04Yeah.
- 19:06So I think you shared some pictures.
- 19:09I have those.
- 19:11Do you wanna talk about a few of those pictures?
- 19:14Because I think it's really fascinating all the different styles you have.
- 19:18And maybe there's some from the early days versus more recent.
- 19:23I have the pictures up.
- 19:25Let's see.
- 19:27So the oldest, okay.
- 19:28The oldest is the G, the G, one to the left.
- 19:33That is the oldest.
- 19:35That was still perm.
- 19:37Okay.
- 19:38So you had full perm.
- 19:40I'm gonna just describe these a little bit.
- 19:42This looks like your wrap.
- 19:46Your wrap.
- 19:46It's like layered, full, voluminous.
- 19:48You got some bounce.
- 19:50And when I figured out not to perm the life out of your hair, you know?
- 19:55And then from there,
- 19:57This is a huge time gap in here too.
- 20:01Okay.
- 20:02So this one, is this your natural?
- 20:05Yeah, this is natural.
- 20:07I probably took some braids out or something.
- 20:08It's gone out.
- 20:09No perm.
- 20:11What's not in here.
- 20:12It's parted on this deep part of the side and it definitely looks stretched a little bit.
- 20:17So I just finished up something and then I really let the fro grow out and we have pink shirt with my friend, my good friend, Stefan in the back.
- 20:34was like the end of my shake it, pick it.
- 20:38Like that was before I started applying products.
- 20:40That was before I knew about the three comb.
- 20:43You got some nice curls popping through.
- 20:45A fro, tapered fro is very cute.
- 20:49I wasn't going to the salon to get it cut.
- 20:52I just let it go.
- 20:56That was important, you know?
- 20:58You know how artists grow their hair out like Jay-Z with his locks?
- 21:03That was that.
- 21:04moment.
- 21:06Absolutely.
- 21:07And then I was played around with the fro, the purple hair.
- 21:13I really liked
- 21:14this is a picked out fro.
- 21:16Yeah, I pinned it on the sides a little fro-ho.
- 21:19giving, yes, it's giving a faux hawk.
- 21:22This is very model-esque.
- 21:23I see why you won America's Next Top Model for the High School It's very, it's...
- 21:30You're, you know, smizing, smizing a little bit.
- 21:33Yes, in my apartment in Mooresville.
- 21:36The pink braids was probably next.
- 21:39That was very nice.
- 21:41You've done a lot.
- 21:43So let's fast forward to, is there one today or more recent that you really liked?
- 21:47I big chopped it.
- 21:50See, on the right, far right, I look a little naked, boom.
- 21:55That was a second big chop.
- 21:57Oh, this is low, low.
- 21:59What'd call that?
- 22:00a, is it like a Caesar?
- 22:01is a, Oh, I don't know.
- 22:03never heard of it.
- 22:06Fade.
- 22:06Yeah.
- 22:10I paid $200 for the haircut.
- 22:12She did her thing.
- 22:14I still go to her.
- 22:17Yeah.
- 22:17I really liked that.
- 22:19And then inside.
- 22:20Especially like as short as hair as you can have without being bald.
- 22:23That's how I describe it.
- 22:24Yes.
- 22:25It's lovely.
- 22:26And then from there, I would play around with it.
- 22:28Like you see the flower.
- 22:31Yeah, cuz inside.
- 22:33was like, yep, it's my 30th birthday.
- 22:37cute.
- 22:39You really have done a lot.
- 22:41So I feel like this, your hair imagination is great.
- 22:44Like you don't just do one thing.
- 22:46And I think that's exciting because sometimes it can feel when you have natural hair that, you know, there's not that much you can do.
- 22:53But even with short hair, you did a lot with the different stylings and with braids, you've done a lot.
- 22:58And with the fro, you've styled it, you've had color.
- 23:00And now,
- 23:02I don't know if you would call it like a wash and go style.
- 23:05You know?
- 23:06just showing the curls like for me now I need I need my curls I need my antennas you know like that's the thing now.
- 23:15This is my connect you know I was in a well I won't say that I was with someone who preferred short hair and I was trying to explain to them I did that already I need to
- 23:31be connected to the world again with my hair antennas.
- 23:34I need for me now, my hair is my prosperity.
- 23:38Like it's my re-emergence into the world.
- 23:44So you're like, after breakup, I need my hair to...
- 23:47I needed it during the relationship too.
- 23:50I needed it then too, but I didn't understand that in that space in life, my hair was my prosperity and growing it out was important to me.
- 24:01Because as you can see, I'm scissor happy.
- 24:04I'm not afraid.
- 24:08With perm hair, I've had a shortcut.
- 24:10Unperm hair, I've had a shortcut.
- 24:11I'm always cutting it.
- 24:12And so I would like to love it.
- 24:16and learn it and grow it out.
- 24:18would you say that's some of your goals right now?
- 24:21For sure.
- 24:21Okay.
- 24:23I love that.
- 24:23Well, thank you for walking us through the past, all the hairstyles.
- 24:28What do you think is your favorite, is this your favorite hairstyle at the moment, how you're wearing it today?
- 24:33Yeah, actually.
- 24:34I love it.
- 24:35It really is, it looks great.
- 24:38Thank you for the podcast.
- 24:40yeah.
- 24:40I was gonna wash my hair and ran out of time.
- 24:42So this is why we have this.
- 24:44You know, the little twist.
- 24:46You know, do what we gotta do.
- 24:47And I think also this part about your lifestyle and having your hair work for your lifestyle.
- 24:53I remember last year you were talking about taking swimming lessons and I was like,
- 24:58This is amazing.
- 24:59And I've talked to many women, dozens of women about hair.
- 25:02And one of the things that I noticed, it was really the older women.
- 25:07Women, because often they're the ones who are most likely gonna have short hair.
- 25:11And I met a couple women, both in their 70s, who swim maybe three to four times a week.
- 25:16tell me about, that example with the swimming and how you fit your hair to the needs of your lifestyle versus figuring out your life to fit around your hair.
- 25:27Because I think some people feel constrained that they can't do these things because
- 25:30their hair won't...
- 25:31Allow it.
- 25:32Yeah, absolutely.
- 25:33So the swimming thing, because I had a fro, I felt really comfortable getting a swimming cap and I knew that I could rinse it.
- 25:42It was once a week.
- 25:43I knew that I could rinse it and go on.
- 25:46At that point, I'm still, you know, wash and go.
- 25:48So I could rinse it, shake it out, you know, and go on.
- 25:52Other areas of my life, helmets to ride my bike.
- 25:56Like if I want to ride my bike to work and I put my helmet on and then I get to work and then I'm gonna have a helmet hair No, no, no, no.
- 26:04I can't ride my bike to work like that.
- 26:07Okay.
- 26:08So what do you do?
- 26:08Are you riding your bike?
- 26:09No, Aww.
- 26:10I know, Everything else, I just do it anyways.
- 26:15Because I am an entrepreneur, I am aware of both the time it takes to get my hair done and how my hair looks.
- 26:25Not that...
- 26:27a little bit more about how your hair looks.
- 26:30What do you think is unique there?
- 26:32So not that people who are not entrepreneurs do not care about their hair.
- 26:36However, I know that need to keep it done to be taken seriously as I'm conducting business.
- 26:43So how it looks, does, needs to look.
- 26:45And when I say professional, I don't mean a style.
- 26:48I wear my braids, I wear my fro, I wear my weave.
- 26:53whatever I want to wear, that's what's going on.
- 26:56but it does need to be done, I guess.
- 27:00So it needs to be fresh and not old or like haphazard
- 27:04do not have a hazard.
- 27:05Correct.
- 27:06And what are
- 27:06you doing now?
- 27:07Do you want to tell the people a little bit about what you're working on as an entrepreneur and just in general?
- 27:12So
- 27:13took those years of being a K through 12 educator and decided to create software to help teachers and buildings just run more smoothly.
- 27:22I think a lot of the electronic systems that are in schools are systems and software created for business people, right?
- 27:30Like Outlook, Google.
- 27:34Now a lot of these places do try to tailor it, tailor.
- 27:38what they have for education, but it was just not built with the intuition of an educator.
- 27:44So my system basically combines calendaring, lesson planning, and observation so that people and teachers can be in one spot.
- 27:53We have one system and we're not in emails and Google Drive and Outlook and scouring the internet.
- 28:01Yeah, exactly.
- 28:02Exactly.
- 28:03I have five tabs open and 35 people in the classroom looking at me.
- 28:08I can't imagine.
- 28:09My friends who are teachers.
- 28:10I'm like, you can't be off at any time.
- 28:11You got literal people in front of you all the time who depend on you.
- 28:16that you like, you you'll have it written on the board and somebody walk in and say, what are doing today?
- 28:22You're like, but I have it on the same place in the board every day.
- 28:28For you, I knew you were going to come in and ask me, you know.
- 28:32Yeah.
- 28:33I think it would be great if you want to share that with people.
- 28:36Maybe there's some teachers here who are interested.
- 28:39We can put that in the show notes.
- 28:40And if people want to connect with you, how can they connect with you?
- 28:43So if you want to know more about my company, you can go to teachbase, all one word, dot IO.
- 28:50The Instagram is at teachbase.io.
- 28:54So then you need the dot IO in there.
- 28:56But if you just want to connect with me, you want to chat with me.
- 28:59and see your hairstyles?
- 29:00Yes, exactly.
- 29:01To see my hairstyles that I'm doing next.
- 29:03I need to be better about posting on social media.
- 29:05But for you all, I post on social media.
- 29:09And that's at Claire, no Huxtable.
- 29:13Huxtable, H-U-X-T-A-B-L-E.
- 29:14Claire, no Huxtable.
- 29:19So fun.
- 29:20I love that.
- 29:21This has been a great conversation.
- 29:23So fun.
- 29:25I love it.
- 29:26love learning more about you and your hair history and you're definitely inspiring.
- 29:29So hopefully people will try some new styles.
- 29:32Just play, play with the hair.
- 29:34don't want to get to the end of your life and say, I always wanted to do that hairstyle.
- 29:39Like, no, you gotta try it out.
- 29:42Try it out.
- 29:43Yes.
- 29:44Wonderful.
- 29:45Well, we're going to end here.
- 29:47We thank you, Claire Benton.
- 29:48Thanks for being here.
- 29:49technical difficulties because this is the first interview.
- 29:52We had such a fun conversation.
- 29:53So please follow us where you're watching.
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- 29:59Thank you.
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