Latest / Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela] / Capítulo 050: Pink Slipped with Jackie Priego
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- 0:27Speaker 1: this is Disa and we are last Radio coming to
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- 0:38Speaker 1: in to local radio Radio Phonic Novella, where we archive
- 0:42Speaker 1: the brilliant legacies and geniuses of women and fems of color.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Yes we do, Yes we do. And today we have
- 0:48Speaker 1: another amazing, beautiful, talented, incredible special guest with us. We're
- 0:53Speaker 1: gonna introduce her in a second. We're gonna have Disa
- 0:55Speaker 1: read her bio for us. Yes, So today we have
- 0:58Speaker 1: a little different format. We're gonna do a little Minia Minnesota,
- 1:02Speaker 1: and we're so excited to have Jackie Priego on the show.
- 1:05Speaker 1: She's the writer, creator, and co director of the web
- 1:08Speaker 1: series Pink Slip, which just premiered. So we have the
- 1:11Speaker 1: exclusive interview for our locamotives. Were so excited. Hi Jackie,
- 1:16Speaker 1: Hi Jackie, Hi ladies. I'm so excited to be here.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me on the podcast.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, We're so glad we could catch you while
- 1:25Speaker 1: you're here in l A. Yeah. Originally from Chicago, the
- 1:29Speaker 1: Windy City, so it's kind of a ways away from home,
- 1:33Speaker 1: but you all make me feel right at home here
- 1:35Speaker 1: in l A. So can you tell us what you're
- 1:39Speaker 1: doing on here in l A. What brings you to
- 1:41Speaker 1: the West Coast? Yes, definitely. I came out to l
- 1:45Speaker 1: A because I'm ready to make some dreams happen. I
- 1:49Speaker 1: wrote a web series about four years ago and that
- 1:53Speaker 1: manifested itself into a full fledged five episode web series
- 1:58Speaker 1: that premiered here in l A before are um launching
- 2:01Speaker 1: on the website worldwide. Um, you can catch the show
- 2:04Speaker 1: at pink slipped dot org. And UM, I'm just ready
- 2:09Speaker 1: to see where this dream takes me next. And Jackie
- 2:13Speaker 1: so Um, I've been following a little bit pink slipped
- 2:16Speaker 1: on the Instagram. But for those who haven't seen the
- 2:20Speaker 1: clips been introduced some of the characters. Can you tell
- 2:23Speaker 1: us a little bit more about pink slipped for sure?
- 2:26Speaker 1: So pink Slip follows the lives of three best friends, Jacqueline, Elena,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and Rosie, who are all in their early thirties. Single,
- 2:35Speaker 1: um and all on the verge of losing their jobs,
- 2:37Speaker 1: something I think that a lot of us can find
- 2:40Speaker 1: very relatable. A lot of millennial Latinas, a lot of
- 2:43Speaker 1: us millennial Latinas and um. They work in different sectors.
- 2:48Speaker 1: One of the characters works in a nonprofit space, and
- 2:50Speaker 1: other works in UH works for publishing house for magazine,
- 2:56Speaker 1: and the third is kind of like a question. It's
- 2:59Speaker 1: a miss story where she works and you have to
- 3:02Speaker 1: tune in to see why. That's definitely relatable. They have
- 3:07Speaker 1: been in the nonprofit sector for a long time well,
- 3:10Speaker 1: and I we have friends in media and in journalism publishing. Yeah,
- 3:14Speaker 1: definitely relatable, and all of those areas can be rocky
- 3:18Speaker 1: employment wise, I stress overworked, lots of hours, no overtime. Yes,
- 3:24Speaker 1: there's a lot of vicarious trauma that goes along with
- 3:26Speaker 1: working at a nonprofit. I absolutely. I think we all
- 3:31Speaker 1: can at We've all talked about our trauma. Are multiple
- 3:34Speaker 1: traumas on this pod. A lot of our listeners also
- 3:37Speaker 1: work in the nonprofit sector. You've talked about how Latina's
- 3:40Speaker 1: really get funneled into that. Yep, that world definitely and
- 3:44Speaker 1: the show. What I really wanted to touch upon with
- 3:47Speaker 1: the show in an entertaining way, right, is to talk
- 3:51Speaker 1: about power. So so often when it comes to Latino
- 3:55Speaker 1: content in the big screen or even the small screen,
- 3:58Speaker 1: it's relegated to stere types. And for this, I didn't
- 4:02Speaker 1: want it to be about race or gender, so Latinos
- 4:06Speaker 1: versus whites, or men versus women. I really wanted to
- 4:09Speaker 1: make it about power. So if you watch the show,
- 4:12Speaker 1: you'll see that um Jacqueline works at a women's empowerment
- 4:17Speaker 1: nonprofit and it is her female boss who you would
- 4:21Speaker 1: think that's going to empower her, that really stabs her
- 4:24Speaker 1: in the back. And then for Elena, she works for
- 4:28Speaker 1: the publishing house Right Media, and you would think that
- 4:31Speaker 1: the Latino owner CEO has Latino's bags, when instead you
- 4:37Speaker 1: find out he really does it. So it really is
- 4:41Speaker 1: about power, who has it, who doesn't have it, how
- 4:43Speaker 1: it's wielded. And you even see that the lead characters
- 4:46Speaker 1: are pretty flawed um too, So you just have to
- 4:52Speaker 1: tune into the show to see like how things go
- 4:54Speaker 1: down for these for these women. Yeah, those power dynamics
- 4:57Speaker 1: at play, especially in the workplace. It's specially like in
- 5:00Speaker 1: the quote like Social Justice Hiller nonprofit where it's all
- 5:06Speaker 1: about like empowering the community and working with underserved individuals.
- 5:10Speaker 1: And but then like don't pay their employees like a
- 5:14Speaker 1: livable way. Right, it's all about the commodification of charitable giving, right, right,
- 5:21Speaker 1: the tax right off the nonprofit industrial complex. Yeah, like
- 5:25Speaker 1: really just like fulfilling quotas for the grant that you received.
- 5:29Speaker 1: But not actually, I mean we found a little salt,
- 5:35Speaker 1: maybe from personal experience, maybe from field notes. It's we
- 5:41Speaker 1: might have had stressful female bosses. I have may have
- 5:45Speaker 1: also had a very horrible experience working in a nonprofit
- 5:49Speaker 1: with all women's I may have had a horrible experience
- 5:52Speaker 1: with the one Latino supervisor I've ever had in my life,
- 5:56Speaker 1: the one man never I guess. Remember again, I do
- 6:01Speaker 1: not like having men as bosses. I don't like it.
- 6:03Speaker 1: I don't like venice supervisors and latinos. No, thank you, sorry,
- 6:08Speaker 1: sorry about it. Don't be sorry. I've had Latino women
- 6:11Speaker 1: bosses and been like cool. I have not well, I
- 6:16Speaker 1: experienced I mean, not to go off topic. We can
- 6:18Speaker 1: literally talk about this episode. But I experienced so much
- 6:21Speaker 1: from phobia in my last place of employment. We did,
- 6:25Speaker 1: like so many people, so many of the women would
- 6:27Speaker 1: make comments like, oh, yes, I'm coming to work, y'all,
- 6:32Speaker 1: like you want me to come like st b nami
- 6:34Speaker 1: like like sweats on, like yeah, but like the way
- 6:37Speaker 1: I would present myself was like offensive to them, you know.
- 6:41Speaker 1: And I was, like, you know, the young one and
- 6:44Speaker 1: graduated from like college, and this was like my first
- 6:47Speaker 1: job and then I ended up dating my very cute
- 6:50Speaker 1: coworker live so many reasons to hate me. We talked
- 6:55Speaker 1: about this. I started my cute new little job and like,
- 6:59Speaker 1: I'm like one of the youngest people with one of
- 7:01Speaker 1: like with like a like a director level position, and
- 7:05Speaker 1: I'm like the youngest one in the room like program directors,
- 7:09Speaker 1: department directors, and I'm like one of the only people
- 7:13Speaker 1: of color already so already young and Alatina, and like
- 7:17Speaker 1: people have actually asked me, like, oh, so, what is
- 7:19Speaker 1: this job going to be like for you being a
- 7:20Speaker 1: young Latina teacher, Like they've asked you. I didn't even
- 7:23Speaker 1: bring it up, right, So I'm like, Okay, this is
- 7:26Speaker 1: noticeable to people, and like how I can't accept certain
- 7:30Speaker 1: favors or like cute gesture gestures even from like especially
- 7:35Speaker 1: from other male staff, like if they want to do
- 7:37Speaker 1: something nice, I have to say no, thank you, because
- 7:39Speaker 1: I already know already the positionality, right, and then it's
- 7:44Speaker 1: it's going to be blamed. You're going to be blamed
- 7:46Speaker 1: for it. The men that are offering to maybe give
- 7:49Speaker 1: you a ride to like the other side of campus
- 7:52Speaker 1: exactly hypothetically, hypothetically, pathetically you wanted to offer me a
- 7:57Speaker 1: ride on, probably have to say no, now I do
- 8:01Speaker 1: already in the future, in the future, anyway, going back,
- 8:08Speaker 1: going back, we can go off to the workplace. And
- 8:11Speaker 1: the other thing that I like that you brought up
- 8:12Speaker 1: was on the verge of losing your job, speaking your jobs. Yeah, definitely,
- 8:17Speaker 1: so being the show focuses on three themes um that
- 8:21Speaker 1: I feel are very pertinent to what's happening to Latinas
- 8:23Speaker 1: in the workplace right now. Because it was a shock
- 8:25Speaker 1: to me four years ago coming into the space or
- 8:28Speaker 1: five years ago and learning that Latinas make fifty four
- 8:32Speaker 1: cents to a white males dollar and we're at the
- 8:35Speaker 1: very bottom of the pay hierarchy, right, So it's white men,
- 8:38Speaker 1: Asian women, white women, African American Native America, what Latinas
- 8:42Speaker 1: at the very bottom? And then I just learned this
- 8:45Speaker 1: weekend that you all Angelina's over here from Los Angeles
- 8:50Speaker 1: make even less you sixth cents. That makes sense, and
- 8:55Speaker 1: it was mind blowing. So I focused on what I thought,
- 8:59Speaker 1: or consider it to be three big issues that affect
- 9:02Speaker 1: our populations, and it's tokenism, equal pay, and immigration. Yeah,
- 9:10Speaker 1: I do think, and that's statistic too about Latina is
- 9:12Speaker 1: making less money. I mean, I you know, working in
- 9:15Speaker 1: I mean, we know we oftentimes come from families where
- 9:20Speaker 1: one generation removed from uh you know, migrant farm labor
- 9:24Speaker 1: and child labor. My dad was a child labor. My dad,
- 9:27Speaker 1: you know, my grandmother worked in all these sweatshops here downtown.
- 9:31Speaker 1: I was just reading an article l A has I
- 9:33Speaker 1: think this is directly connected. LA has the most sweatshops,
- 9:36Speaker 1: like per capita or whatever in the country, and we
- 9:39Speaker 1: have straight up sweatshops like recognized for those conditions. My
- 9:44Speaker 1: grandmother worked in those sweatshops. A lot of the reasons
- 9:47Speaker 1: why statistically Latino A positioned at the bottom of these
- 9:50Speaker 1: pay hierarchies is also you know, that's most of our
- 9:53Speaker 1: undocumented Ermans right who are making so much less because
- 9:57Speaker 1: they don't have the wage protection right, and then we
- 10:00Speaker 1: see them working in sweatshops. We talk about rape on
- 10:03Speaker 1: the night shift, right, janitors and things like that. So no,
- 10:07Speaker 1: it's a hot mess. And even in the nonprofit world,
- 10:09Speaker 1: all my coworkers were Latina's and were we making money? No? No,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and we don't move up. And when we raise our
- 10:17Speaker 1: hands and say, you know, maybe it's time to have
- 10:19Speaker 1: that kind of like discussion about where I see myself
- 10:23Speaker 1: my professional track, they're like, whoa, what are you talking about.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You have to pay your dues. There's really not a
- 10:28Speaker 1: lot of in my experience, there is not a lot
- 10:30Speaker 1: of room to grow at a nonprofit because a lot
- 10:33Speaker 1: of these directors will be in those positions for years.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Lifetime appointment. Yeah, I mean the director at my previous job,
- 10:41Speaker 1: like the executive director, she had been in that job
- 10:43Speaker 1: forever because she founded it, like over twenty years probably,
- 10:47Speaker 1: and she was a white woman and was not necessarily
- 10:49Speaker 1: in touch with the community. But like she's not going
- 10:51Speaker 1: to retire, you know, she's going to stay there and
- 10:54Speaker 1: collect her million dollar check or whatever. You know. It's
- 10:58Speaker 1: sad to say, but nonprofit salaries also are part of
- 11:03Speaker 1: the public domain. If you work for a nonprofit, I mean,
- 11:06Speaker 1: I think it kind of behooves you to look up
- 11:08Speaker 1: those dollars and cents before you accept the job to
- 11:12Speaker 1: really understand like what kind of situation you're getting yourself into. Right. Well, also,
- 11:18Speaker 1: I mean, I think if we're thinking about like Latina's,
- 11:21Speaker 1: like first generation Latina's, millennial Latina's um a lot of
- 11:28Speaker 1: us are getting salaries for the first time. Right, So
- 11:31Speaker 1: we're offered a salary that seems like a sizeable amount
- 11:35Speaker 1: because our families have never been on a salary job, right,
- 11:38Speaker 1: They've never made this amount of money, which is not
- 11:41Speaker 1: a lot, it's the bare minimum, but because we haven't
- 11:44Speaker 1: seen it, it looks like a lot of money. And
- 11:46Speaker 1: then you see the cost of living, and you see
- 11:49Speaker 1: all the bills that you have and the rent and
- 11:51Speaker 1: the rent increases and it is everything you're collectively have
- 11:55Speaker 1: that job exactly, and then you're like, oh, wait, I
- 11:58Speaker 1: actually don't make anything, and I should negotiated my way
- 12:01Speaker 1: my salary. And what we see statistically is that Latina
- 12:05Speaker 1: or not Latina's women in general will not um negotiate
- 12:09Speaker 1: for wages when they're offered. When they're offered a salary,
- 12:12Speaker 1: they will take it without any type of negotiation. And
- 12:15Speaker 1: men that does not happen with men. Yeah, And the
- 12:18Speaker 1: second part to that is that we don't have the
- 12:20Speaker 1: negotiation skills one because we're women, right, and that's just
- 12:23Speaker 1: not ingrained in our gender or taught to us, but
- 12:28Speaker 1: turned to it right for also being women of color.
- 12:32Speaker 1: That takes it even a step further. And then when
- 12:34Speaker 1: you do for those few women that had mentors or
- 12:39Speaker 1: someone to guide them and teach them those beautiful negotiation skills,
- 12:43Speaker 1: they think they're so empowered and they go and they
- 12:45Speaker 1: try to negotiate and they're told they're a bitch or
- 12:49Speaker 1: they're told like, wait your turn. But a man that
- 12:52Speaker 1: could be mediocre if he raises his hand and says, yeah,
- 12:56Speaker 1: I think I'm ready for that exposition. Well boom, Sure,
- 13:00Speaker 1: all of a sudden you see them moving forward, And
- 13:01Speaker 1: I think it's all about seeing yourself in the other person, right.
- 13:06Speaker 1: So often these these organizations, corporate or nonprofit, are run
- 13:10Speaker 1: by men, and um, they see their sons, they see themselves.
- 13:14Speaker 1: They you know, they went to the same fraternities, they
- 13:17Speaker 1: went to the same universities, and we don't have that background.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure, sure, And so you know, speaking of
- 13:25Speaker 1: you know, not being there, not having their presentation. So
- 13:29Speaker 1: I would assume, and I imagine there's not a lot
- 13:32Speaker 1: of Latin X creators in the filmmaking TV writing, you know. UM,
- 13:39Speaker 1: So what got you to the point where you said,
- 13:42Speaker 1: you know what, this is something I'm really interested and
- 13:43Speaker 1: I'm going to do it. I'm going to execute, I'm
- 13:45Speaker 1: going to put this thing together. Right? It was, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 1: I had an epiphany one day. I had actually a
- 13:52Speaker 1: really traumatic experience with a new therapist and I ran
- 13:58Speaker 1: out of that that they're session just completely broken. Trust
- 14:02Speaker 1: was broken. And I started journaling and that became the
- 14:07Speaker 1: most cathartic experience for me. And the more I journal,
- 14:10Speaker 1: the more I wrote about experiences that weren't unique to
- 14:13Speaker 1: me but really universal. Right, two women, UM that we're
- 14:18Speaker 1: Latinos are not? Um. All of a sudden, it's snowballed
- 14:22Speaker 1: into writing a creative story. Uh. And then that snowballed
- 14:27Speaker 1: into um putting it into script format and fast forward
- 14:32Speaker 1: for years here we are today. But UM, I think
- 14:36Speaker 1: what really drove me to it was just this incessant
- 14:39Speaker 1: need and passion to tell stories that I hadn't seen
- 14:43Speaker 1: done before. It really is the wild West right now
- 14:46Speaker 1: when it comes to the Latin at East content. We
- 14:49Speaker 1: see other communities really getting information, if you will, and
- 14:54Speaker 1: getting their content out there. But um, the we see
- 14:58Speaker 1: one v that or one day of time we see viva.
- 15:02Speaker 1: We need more. We need so much. There's pose we
- 15:08Speaker 1: um we also, um, we're the largest consumer of entertainment.
- 15:14Speaker 1: We are so I you know, I love the Fast
- 15:18Speaker 1: and Furious franchise. But give us more than just that.
- 15:22Speaker 1: We we need we need, we need diversification. When it
- 15:26Speaker 1: comes to the types of contents, the types of rules, um,
- 15:30Speaker 1: the cast, oh, the casting, all of that has to evolve,
- 15:34Speaker 1: I think, um, because dominant culture gets friends and then
- 15:39Speaker 1: they get um what shameless. Right, So there's this this
- 15:43Speaker 1: this kind of like spectrum of what kind of dominant
- 15:47Speaker 1: culture person you can be. But when it comes to
- 15:49Speaker 1: Latino characters, were the maid were the pregnancy one? Oh? Completely?
- 15:56Speaker 1: So that's what I hope that the show does. And um,
- 16:00Speaker 1: the show just went live on the website and I
- 16:02Speaker 1: have been receiving so much feedback from women reaching out
- 16:06Speaker 1: and saying, that's me, that's me. I've never seen myself
- 16:09Speaker 1: reflected in a show before, and now I do. And
- 16:15Speaker 1: that's amazing, it's incredible. It's a really beautiful spiritual feeling.
- 16:19Speaker 1: That's amazing. Congratulations and so so, like you said, there
- 16:23Speaker 1: was a screening here in l a flew out for that.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Um all five episodes, all five episodes in live. And
- 16:31Speaker 1: so if people want to listeners look on what I
- 16:33Speaker 1: want to go and support pink Slip watch. Where can
- 16:37Speaker 1: they go? Where can they find you? Where can they
- 16:38Speaker 1: find the show? How can they continue to support your
- 16:41Speaker 1: creative work? Definitely? So Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, We're all at
- 16:45Speaker 1: the same handle at pink slips, so it's p i
- 16:48Speaker 1: yan k s l i p p d. It's missing that, Lassie.
- 16:52Speaker 1: And then um, the shows are live on our website
- 16:55Speaker 1: at www dot p i yan k s l I
- 16:59Speaker 1: p p e d dot org. UM. I hope that
- 17:02Speaker 1: doesn't confuse anybody, even the domain handle kind of situation.
- 17:06Speaker 1: We can link it in the show now. That's amazing. Well,
- 17:11Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for
- 17:13Speaker 1: talking about your show and your process and just sharing
- 17:16Speaker 1: with us, um about the entertainment industry and the strides
- 17:20Speaker 1: that Latinos are making and the as filmmakers and creators.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Absolutely so, Jackie, Prego, thank you for being here. Go
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- 17:50Speaker 1: will catch you next time. Locomotives