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Balling on a Budget: Affordable Skincare Hacks & Tips · Divine Skintervention

0:04
SPEAKER_01: Hi Angelo.
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SPEAKER_05: Hi, Remo.
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SPEAKER_01: Question for you.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: How have you been personally uplifting Tanasha?
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SPEAKER_01: People still use title?
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know if title's still around.
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SPEAKER_05: I just remember specifically them signing the Declaration of Independence or something.
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SPEAKER_01: The Founding Fathers, The Founding Mothers, Young Ari, not Ari.
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SPEAKER_01: Rihanna, Madonna, Leg Up on the Table.
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SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, iconic moments.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: A lot has happened in the internet cultural zeitgeist in the last month or so.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
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SPEAKER_01: Opinions.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what?
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: What?
1:05
SPEAKER_05: Listen, bitch.
1:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh my eyes have been opened.
1:12
SPEAKER_05: Well, I already knew this, but this just underscored it for me.
1:15
SPEAKER_05: Like, people go online and they're just looking to fight about something.
1:23
SPEAKER_05: Can I let's make this personal, actually.
1:26
SPEAKER_05: I didn't know if I was going to talk about this on here, but we ran a short form clip of me talking about some body contouring procedures that I did on my abdomen.
1:38
SPEAKER_05: And the people in the comments accusing me of being fat phobic and assuming things about me was fucking crazy.
1:49
SPEAKER_05: And I mean, just to walk you through it, the procedures that I was talking about are not weight loss procedures.
1:56
SPEAKER_05: They do not make you lose weight.
1:58
SPEAKER_05: It was about body contouring and changing something that I personally was insecure about.
2:05
SPEAKER_05: And the amount of hate that I got, y'all need to realize fat phobia is literally like treating fat people.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: A prejudice.
2:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, being prejudiced towards fat people.
2:19
SPEAKER_05: The only people in this story were me and me, because I performed the procedure on myself.
2:23
SPEAKER_05: I was the one, you know, have the procedure for performed on me.
2:27
SPEAKER_05: I was the one with the insecurity.
2:29
SPEAKER_05: And people saying, oh, you'll do anything to lose weight.
2:32
SPEAKER_05: How dare you?
2:34
SPEAKER_05: You must be fat phobic.
2:35
SPEAKER_05: I was like, listen, the realization that I have come to is you are allowed to be triggered by things.
2:45
SPEAKER_05: I could understand how me having that conversation about something that I was insecure about may be triggering to somebody else.
2:53
SPEAKER_05: That's totally fine.
2:55
SPEAKER_05: That does not then give you license to make it somebody else's problem.
3:00
SPEAKER_05: If you are triggered by something that clearly, like there is no ill intent, no wrongdoing done there, you're just triggered by it.
3:11
SPEAKER_05: It is your responsibility to deal with that, not mine.
3:16
SPEAKER_01: So back to the COVID-conscious Western Massachusetts lesbian pod.
3:19
SPEAKER_01: Ah, that's my that was my favorite week on the internet.
3:23
SPEAKER_05: Between the hijab-inspired secular accessories.
3:30
SPEAKER_01: First of all, that person's tweets, I don't know their gender pronouns.
3:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, that person's tweets insane.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Continue.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, they were still actively tweeting as if nothing was happening, the entirety of that whole situation.
3:42
SPEAKER_05: The clown school of it all.
3:44
SPEAKER_05: A lot of people should enroll in clown school after that incident.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: Are you bringing in iced coffee to the interview for clown school though?
3:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god, the iced coffee thing.
3:53
SPEAKER_05: I bring in iced coffee everywhere.
3:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
3:57
SPEAKER_05: But I get it.
3:58
SPEAKER_05: And I think, yeah, people just want to be pissed at something.
4:02
SPEAKER_05: The original video was actually a recruiter talking about this.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: I don't actually know what the genesis of the iced coffee thing was.
4:10
SPEAKER_05: So it was a recruiter talking about like different things that people are doing wrong for job interviews.
4:17
SPEAKER_05: And for those of you who don't know, maybe the younger generation doesn't know this.
4:21
SPEAKER_05: It's not that that recruiter thought that like was saying, from what I understand, that oh, you're a terrible person and you're so unprofessional if you do that.
4:31
SPEAKER_05: This is the person who wants to get you hired because they get paid if you get hired.
4:37
SPEAKER_05: So they were saying that I think these were things that employers were telling her.
4:44
SPEAKER_05: So, I mean, I understand if you think that you should be able to bring an entire Thanksgiving dinner to your fucking interview.
4:53
SPEAKER_05: That doesn't necessarily mean that you have to do that, especially if you want to get fucking hired.
5:01
SPEAKER_05: And I understand that there are a lot of things that are unfair in this world, but unfortunately, it's like we're playing in the system.
5:08
SPEAKER_01: So life's not fair.
5:11
SPEAKER_01: That was a quote.
5:12
SPEAKER_01: That was a quote, that was a reference.
5:13
SPEAKER_05: If I'm being honest, I'm like, I I understand that there are some corporate rules that are crazy or outdated or whatever it is.
5:23
SPEAKER_05: Racist, racist, ex yes, exclusionary, classist.
5:28
SPEAKER_05: Yes, there are so many.
5:30
SPEAKER_05: But I mean, if the point of you doing this exercise is to get hired and get a salary and maybe get inside the system and change some of those things.
5:44
SPEAKER_05: Iced coffee of quality, then you know, sometimes you just gotta play the game.
5:48
SPEAKER_01: Funny story, I got a job because I brought coffee to my interview.
5:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh, did you bring coffee for the person who was interviewing you too?
5:56
SPEAKER_01: Kind of.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically, because when I worked at Starbucks, and this was me interviewing for my first internship at corporate, and the coffee tastings are a big part of the like corporate culture.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: So I brought a coffee tasting because I had a whole story behind the coffee I chose and everything.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: And I got the job because they were like obviously the story was very insightful and very meaningful and it meant a lot.
6:15
SPEAKER_01: But also you bringing that, you were the only one who brought coffee.
6:18
SPEAKER_01: I did a tasting at their interview, which told us that you knew like the whole ethos of the company.
6:24
SPEAKER_05: Also, bringing coffee to corporate headquarters of a coffee company, kind of ballsy.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: It was Starbucks coffee.
6:32
SPEAKER_05: Wait, did you take it from your store?
6:34
SPEAKER_01: I was, I had, I was working in-store at the time and actually had extras of this coffee.
6:37
SPEAKER_01: But okay, if you want the story time, because you're here, you have no choice.
6:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I worked at Starbucks for a very long time.
6:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, and I worked on their reserve uh branding side of things.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: And there was a small lot of coffee from Vietnam called Vietnam, Vietnam Dalat.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that coffee they brought back every year or so.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: And it was always around at very pivotal points in my career with Starbucks.
7:03
SPEAKER_01: And so I'd done all this stuff, uh, you know, coming to New York for the first time with Starbucks, they flew me out here to do a big coffee festival.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: And that was the coffee we featured when I worked at the roastery, because I worked at the original Starbucks in Pike Place Market.
7:17
SPEAKER_01: I worked at the original Starbucks roastery in Seattle.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: I opened the Chicago roastery on their ops team.
7:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, Vietnam Delot was always there.
7:24
SPEAKER_01: And so that was the story.
7:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, as I enter this next phase of my career, I want to bring this coffee with me because it feels very like momentus.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: One thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna Ace interview.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: I interview so well because I love talking about myself.
7:42
SPEAKER_05: I could never tell.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: Why?
7:44
SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, if you ever see Vietnam Delaware in a Starbucks store, highly recommend.
7:49
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna try it now.
7:50
SPEAKER_05: Not that I really go to Starbucks, but oh wait, yeah.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: The boycott.
7:54
SPEAKER_05: The boycott.
7:55
SPEAKER_05: Uh okay.
7:57
SPEAKER_05: Uh another piece of discourse that has come up recently is Kelly Clarkson and this damn bird.
8:04
SPEAKER_01: That and the Isimiyaki nursery school, literally half a block away.
8:09
SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
8:10
SPEAKER_05: So Isemiyake nursery school, I had walked past several times when I'm in Williamsburg, and I always wondered about it.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: To enroll your child.
8:20
SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
8:21
SPEAKER_05: Um, well, are they dressed in pleats please?
8:25
SPEAKER_05: Maybe a knockoff.
8:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it is.
8:27
SPEAKER_05: They they released a statement and said it was like not isemiyake.
8:31
SPEAKER_01: They're like, hey, it's an affordable Japanese uh alternative that's a lot more affordable.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: We just find that it helps to better discern who our staff is.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: And it what was it?
8:41
SPEAKER_01: And it creates like a more familiar environment for the kids.
8:44
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's interesting too because they chose something that it was just like you just need to wear this pleated fabric.
8:51
SPEAKER_05: They wore different styles, different colors, but they did look like a team.
8:55
SPEAKER_05: So they ate truly, they did eat that.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: And half a block away is the famous Brooklyn store that Kelly Clarkson just recently dragged on the internet.
9:06
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
9:07
SPEAKER_05: Have you seen the video of the bird in question?
9:11
SPEAKER_01: The$15,000 bird in question.
9:13
unknown: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: So I think that this is a classic example of there just being a fucking misunderstanding.
9:22
SPEAKER_01: On both parties.
9:23
SPEAKER_05: On both parties.
9:25
SPEAKER_05: Well, okay, so apparently this is where the story stands.
9:29
SPEAKER_05: Kelly Clarkson saw, I think she saw this something about this uh store on TikTok or something on social media.
9:37
SPEAKER_05: And I think they sell toys and tchotchkis and gadgets, and she just wanted to visit.
9:44
SPEAKER_05: This, I guess, analog animatronic bird is like on a wall.
9:52
SPEAKER_05: It's operated by a crank and it moves and sings.
9:55
SPEAKER_05: It's actually really it's cute.
9:57
SPEAKER_05: It's impressive.
9:59
SPEAKER_05: But she apparently saw a price tag next to it that said$15,000.
10:04
SPEAKER_05: And she said that she wanted to buy it.
10:06
SPEAKER_05: And they said to her, this is not for sale.
10:10
SPEAKER_05: We have these other, you know, similar things that were much less expensive.
10:16
SPEAKER_05: They're all about like$2,000.
10:18
SPEAKER_05: And she took that as they were trying to say that she couldn't afford the bird.
10:24
SPEAKER_05: The shop has since responded that that bird is something that they actually use in like magic shows and stuff that they put on in the store.
10:36
SPEAKER_05: And that the reason that the$15,000 price tag was there was that the person who made it made another one that he owns and said that for$15,000 he would sell it.
10:47
SPEAKER_05: His, not the one there.
10:49
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if that was communicated to her, but if it were me and it had a price tag on it, I would inquire.
10:59
SPEAKER_05: Not that I would buy that for$15,000, but I don't have Kelly Clarkson money.
11:04
SPEAKER_05: This is the second time she's in drama in a few weeks, and I almost feel like she's doing this to detract from the other drama.
11:12
SPEAKER_05: The other drama.
11:13
SPEAKER_01: Which if you don't know, she was on uh sister podcast with other sister gays that we don't know.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: She was on another podcast where she talked about she's kind of a fan of AI, and she's not a hater the way I am.
11:27
SPEAKER_01: Basically, in that she's interested to see like what it brings to the table in terms of like music.
11:32
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
11:33
SPEAKER_05: Maybe when you're just like that naturally gifted, you don't realize how hard it is for some other people to make it.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: Like you are the definitive winner of American Idol.
11:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, they they didn't do it as good as you.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: Like the first time around, they got it right.
11:49
SPEAKER_05: And people fear when she may cover their songs.
11:54
SPEAKER_01: She does such a good job.
11:55
SPEAKER_05: She does such a good job.
11:56
SPEAKER_05: She's so talented.
11:58
SPEAKER_05: But of like, meh.
12:00
SPEAKER_05: The AI take was kind of bad.
12:02
SPEAKER_05: And I think maybe she knew it.
12:04
SPEAKER_05: And so she decided to start some other drama.
12:06
SPEAKER_01: Can I be like catty though?
12:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, they should have edited that out.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: There are certain things when you're doing podcasts, especially when on the editing portion, we're like, oh, that's kind of in bad taste.
12:15
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we should we've done that.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: Where it's like, let's not hear that.
12:17
SPEAKER_01: Let's not put that out in.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Why didn't they keep that in?
12:22
SPEAKER_05: I don't know how they feel about the whole AI thing.
12:25
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they didn't think it was a big deal, but was that like all of the big internet things recently?
12:31
SPEAKER_01: So much happened.
12:32
SPEAKER_01: You know what?
12:32
SPEAKER_01: In the right moment, something else is probably happening.
12:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh, the discourse around like uh that guy trying to call out Edom.
12:40
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
12:42
SPEAKER_05: We shouldn't talk about talk about that.
12:43
SPEAKER_05: He's New York based.
12:44
SPEAKER_05: He already got dragged by Jackie.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: So I know he hasn't made any statement about that.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: He just oh he did.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I see now it's like all of his workout videos still.
12:52
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, anyways.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: Let me open Twitter real quick.
12:55
SPEAKER_05: What about like uh brand closures?
12:58
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, uh Isamaya French.
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SPEAKER_01: That's been like the most recent thing that's come up on my thing.
13:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they the somebody found out just by reporting that like she hasn't been there since 2025.
13:09
SPEAKER_01: Like all of her stuff's half off or out of stock, people aren't getting orders.
13:13
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah, it's been on sale at Sephora for a while.
13:18
SPEAKER_05: I do think, I'm not sure if this like incubator was there with her since the beginning or if they came in a little bit later.
13:28
SPEAKER_05: I think from what I remember, they came in when you know the brand was already in progress and she was known for things like really expensive eyeshadow palettes or like the penis-shaped lipstick.
13:40
SPEAKER_05: And then they came out with more affordably priced stuff that was not as high quality, but like still pretty good to launch into Sephora, like more mainstream.
13:52
SPEAKER_05: Yes, because everything before that was limited edition and like super graphic and conceptual.
13:59
SPEAKER_05: And I mean the Sephora product, from what I've tried, I've tried two of them.
14:04
SPEAKER_05: One's like a blush highlighter duo, and one's like a like precision contour stick.
14:12
SPEAKER_05: Both of them are good.
14:14
SPEAKER_05: It's just, I'm thinking maybe there were creative differences there because, and this goes to show you when you have to answer to investors, it's like they want to scale.
14:24
SPEAKER_05: They're not gonna continue to do these one-off limited edition things that, yeah, they awaken a lot of controversy, but are they gonna make you a lot of money in the long term?
14:36
SPEAKER_05: Not necessarily, and they push the brand into a retailer with totally different products.
14:43
SPEAKER_05: So maybe that just didn't work for her.
14:45
SPEAKER_01: It's opened the door again for we talked about this before, even on just a few weeks ago's episode, just brand closure, sustaining a brand, especially in the current landscape, especially as an indie brand.
14:56
unknown: It's hard.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, um, Scarlett Johansson's brand closed.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: Outset.
15:02
SPEAKER_05: The outset, which you love that brand.
15:05
SPEAKER_05: I mean, the products are good.
15:07
SPEAKER_05: I do think though that having a celebrity face is not enough.
15:11
SPEAKER_05: This is one of those uh, you know, arrangements where it was like kind of an industry operator that wanted to launch it, bring on a celebrity face to be co-founder.
15:22
SPEAKER_05: And usually the way that that happens is like the celebrity doesn't have to put in any money, they just give their likeness and they get stake in the company.
15:33
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, I met Scarlet several times, totally nice, did not seem super involved in like the thought behind the products.
15:40
SPEAKER_05: The products were good, but I just don't think they stood out.
15:45
SPEAKER_05: No, really.
15:46
SPEAKER_05: Like they were not doing anything super innovative.
15:49
SPEAKER_05: There was not that much that set them apart.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: They were one of those brands that were like, we want to be the white t-shirt of skincare, like your perfect white t-shirt.
15:58
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, who's excited by a white t-shirt?
16:02
SPEAKER_01: That's the thing is so much of the branding and the marketing and all that was just very like bland.
16:09
SPEAKER_05: So, I mean, yeah, having good product is not enough.
16:15
SPEAKER_05: You have to have a point of view.
16:17
SPEAKER_05: You have to be point of view.
16:19
SPEAKER_01: You have to be you have to have a POV.
16:21
SPEAKER_05: Or, you know, I think having also that white t-shirt approach, it's like that's what Road is.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: But marketed well.
16:31
SPEAKER_05: Marketed well.
16:33
SPEAKER_05: They are absolutely a vibes brand.
16:36
SPEAKER_05: Ooh, I think this could be a good game.
16:38
SPEAKER_05: Like, if the pro if the company or the the product line is more vibes or more like product focused, road is 100% vibes, and that's why it's like, oh, they're not just skincare, they're not just makeup, they're phone cases, they're lifestyle, they're the eye patches.
16:59
SPEAKER_05: It's like they are a brand that's built on vibes, and clearly people are vibing with those vibes, and that's why they're doing so well.
17:09
SPEAKER_05: The outset was definitely a more product brand.
17:13
SPEAKER_05: The vibes were nowhere to be found.
17:14
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: But the products also weren't like revolutionary either.
17:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they were just good, they were high quality.
17:22
SPEAKER_05: Like for what it was, it was great, but now it's gone.
17:27
SPEAKER_05: And Sephora sales coming up, so stock up.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: Are they even still available?
17:33
SPEAKER_05: I think there's usually for retailers, they'll like sell through until they sell out.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, we keep uh behind the scenes, we keep mentioning this.
17:40
SPEAKER_01: I was at Sephora in Irvine with Jane the Chemist recently.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: This was like literally less than a month ago.
17:46
SPEAKER_01: When did Good Light close?
17:49
SPEAKER_05: Last year.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: There's still Good Light product on shelves.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: They're sunsetting.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: But I'm just like, oh, I thought they would have like pulled up by now or would it sold out by now?
17:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, I mean, I think Ami Kole closed in 2024 and they're still selling it on the Sephora site.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
18:03
SPEAKER_05: They're just stuck.
18:05
SPEAKER_05: It's like they will try to sell through whatever.
18:07
SPEAKER_05: Sometimes they put it on sale, it should just discount it.
18:11
SPEAKER_05: So that's just gonna make back some of that money.
18:14
SPEAKER_05: I've seen some chatter online that people were saying, like, no, the outset was like so good for my sensitive skin, and I'm so sad it's going away.
18:21
SPEAKER_05: Stock up.
18:22
SPEAKER_05: So, Ramon, Angela, today we are balling on a budget forever and always.
18:30
SPEAKER_05: I think there are so many ways that people can save money when it comes to skincare, and I think spend their money wisely.
18:37
SPEAKER_01: Because first of all, you don't gotta be doing all this with your skincare routine.
18:40
SPEAKER_01: Three basic steps cleanser, good moisturizer, sunscreen.
18:46
SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's definitely the most basic, and there are tips and tricks to make things less expensive.
18:51
SPEAKER_05: I also think my number one thing is being intentional about the skincare routine.
18:56
SPEAKER_05: So that means like really trying to like figure out what concerns you're trying to address.
19:03
SPEAKER_05: That's number one.
19:04
SPEAKER_05: Looking at your routine and seeing if you're appropriately addressing it.
19:08
SPEAKER_05: And if you're going through your routine and you're seeing that things are duplicates, or if you reach something that you're like, eh, I don't know what this is doing for me, boot it.
19:20
SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, empty at first.
19:22
SPEAKER_05: But I think a lot of the time people also don't give stuff enough time to work and they give up and they end up with a half-empty product and they buy something new.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: That consistency and compliance piece is really vital.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: This is an issue I got with my mom specifically, because she's like, Poppy, it's not working.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, How long have you been using it?
19:38
SPEAKER_01: She's like, three days.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, depending on what the product is, it'll take anywhere from maybe a couple weeks to like a few months to see a noticeable change.
19:48
SPEAKER_01: And specifically for her, she's a woman of a certain age, 25 and three-quarters, if you ask her.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: Um and she has a lot of few pigmentary concerns.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: She lives in Florida.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: Um, and so we've been talking about her melasma mustache and sun damage that she has.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: And I cannot get her to be consistent with her retinol.
20:09
SPEAKER_05: Oh.
20:10
SPEAKER_01: I know I'm like mommy.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: Like if you want to see the result, you have to put in the work.
20:14
SPEAKER_01: So with retinoids, for example, it takes months to really see noticeable difference.
20:22
SPEAKER_05: I think another pie I think another thing that people don't realize is that there are effective products that are not super expensive, that are either in like the drugstore price range, which the drugstore isn't necessarily the cheapest place anymore.
20:42
SPEAKER_05: Or even I think like a lot of the K-Beauty brands really compete well on price and are very active focused.
20:51
SPEAKER_05: So that's one way that you could, you know, get some of those concerns addressed without having to spend hundreds of dollars on a serum or something.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: And actually, to this point, this because I'm going back to my mom, the two things she got recommended from her Durham were adapleen and uh essentially the Anua azolec acid, which you talked about recently.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, you can get like the Walmart Equate brand adapoline or the Walgreens store brand adapoline, much more affordable.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Because she saw the price for the full size different brand, and she's like, I'm not trying to spend that kind of money right now.
21:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's probably like$45 or something for the big one.
21:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: So like a lot of these drugstore brands have their in-store branded products as well.
21:33
SPEAKER_01: They're much more affordable, they're very, very cheap.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: But on top of that, the Anua as like acid was like$15.
21:41
SPEAKER_05: How do you feel about yeah, like store brand skincare in general?
21:46
SPEAKER_05: People ask me about that a lot.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: My one thing with this is when it comes to OTC products, there is a specific set of rules and regulations and GMP.
21:56
SPEAKER_05: So this is if it's a drug.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: If it's a drug.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: So adaplene is has an OTC drug monograph.
22:03
SPEAKER_05: It was a prescription drug for acne.
22:06
SPEAKER_05: It's now available over the counter.
22:07
SPEAKER_05: So that's going to be regulated differently, even if it's the store brand than say like a moisturizer.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
22:14
SPEAKER_01: So if it has a drug fax on the back of it, OTC.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: So adaplene's one of them, uh, benzo peroxide, tossic acid, sunscreens, those all fit that uh OTC monograph.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: So that's where I'm like, there has to be stringent manufacturing standards to that.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna trust it a little bit more.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: And again, for me, I understand we talk about a wide range of price points when it comes to products, but I love a drugstore.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: My favorite makeup, always drugstore.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: Um, skincare, drugstore.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: Also, dollar store, super interesting.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: I love exploring a dollar store skincare section.
22:47
SPEAKER_05: I've had so many requests to review Dollar Tree skincare.
22:53
SPEAKER_05: I don't even know where there is a dollar tree.
22:57
SPEAKER_05: No, there's one, there's one in Brooklyn, like in East New York, for sure.
23:03
SPEAKER_05: Um, there's a lot of Dollar General out here in Queens, which maybe I could look at.
23:08
SPEAKER_05: But I know the Dollar Tree is different because back in the day it was like everything is a dollar, but like now it's like everything is a multiple of a dollar or something.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: 135 kind of vibe.
23:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
23:19
SPEAKER_05: So I'm like, that would be interesting to see like what shows up there.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: We're literally a block away from a family dollar.
23:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, not the same as Dollar Tree.
23:29
SPEAKER_05: That's the thing.
23:30
SPEAKER_05: So uh some of the stuff you'll see in the dollar store, I would be careful about it because it is, you know, shrinkflation in there.
23:40
SPEAKER_05: So they there are brands, and I think this is more for all personal care.
23:45
SPEAKER_05: Like if you're thinking body wash, toothpaste, it's like, yeah, what you're getting there costs less on the sticker, but it is not the same size exactly as the product that you're used to getting, so it may not be the cheapest thing.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: It's not uh unit price is not equivalent.
24:04
SPEAKER_01: That makes sense.
24:06
SPEAKER_05: So I would say, yeah, if you're really trying to be frugal, compare on that for sure.
24:12
SPEAKER_05: Comparison shop.
24:14
SPEAKER_05: If there are things that you could get in like a value size, that's always great.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: It's it's not everyone has access to it, but low-key, a Costco skincare purchase goes a very long way.
24:27
SPEAKER_05: I think also there are some products that come in large sizes that you could do for face and body.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: And this is my biggest platform.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: Right now, a favorite, it's$18 for a 500 mil bottle, uh, remedy.
24:43
SPEAKER_01: They have their salicylic acid like cleanser, face hair body right there.
24:48
SPEAKER_05: Oh, one that I bring up a lot, especially for people with like drier sensitive skin, uh, La Roche Posey Lipicar wash, face and body for that.
24:59
SPEAKER_05: And if you have really dry facial skin, their body moisturizers work on the face too.
25:04
SPEAKER_05: Um, I think also there are some um like body sunscreens that are totally suitable for face, and you get so much.
25:13
SPEAKER_05: And that's really important with sunscreens, something that you can like get like a big pack of because you're gonna have to use a lot of it.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: Banana Boat, she is sensitive,$10 the body one.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: Gorgeous texture.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: It rivals the Beauty of Josh and Aqua Fresh, the Korean sunscreen.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: That texture rivals it, and it's water and sweat resistant, and it's like$10.
25:34
SPEAKER_05: So that's a sleigh and a half in my book.
25:38
SPEAKER_01: Also, black girl sunscreen kids.
25:40
SPEAKER_05: Why is it the kids one that everybody loves?
25:43
SPEAKER_01: It's uh a much lighter emulsion texture.
25:46
SPEAKER_01: The OG SPF 30, it's very greasy, very emollient.
25:50
SPEAKER_01: Okay, and the kids' one was somehow cheaper for some reason for larger, for more higher protection value.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: For example, that's my mom's favorite sunscreen.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: I just my mom always texts me when she needs uh restock of everything, so I buy it for her often.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow.
26:04
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think sometimes with like certain manufacturing intricacies, you will see that prices don't make sense because either things are getting made by different manufacturers or what have you.
26:19
SPEAKER_01: The time and effort and labor put into manufacturing a product reflects in the price.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: So some things that are a lot more difficult to manufacture is going to be more money.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: Just because the upfront cost to make the product it is more expensive on the brand itself.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: So they have to recoup that somehow.
26:32
SPEAKER_05: I also think another way of saving money on moisturizer is just letting your sunscreen be your moisturizer.
26:40
SPEAKER_05: Because sunscreens and moisturizers quite often are composed pretty similarly.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: Literally, they're most they're mostly emulsions, the same things I always say.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: A sunscreen is literally a moisturizer with EV filters dispersed through the formulation.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Um, and as someone with oily skin, I usually just do a cleanser.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: If I if you have the ability to do serum, serum, and then just slap moisturizer on top.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: That way it's less layers, much easier routine.
27:06
SPEAKER_01: And if your sunscreen's appropriate for your skin type, you're not gonna get oily.
27:11
SPEAKER_05: In the mornings, I just splash with water, do like a water rinse because cleansing twice a day is not for everyone.
27:19
SPEAKER_05: And if I'm gonna cleanse once a day, it's gonna be at night.
27:23
SPEAKER_05: Take everything off after the day.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: So in the morning, take everything off.
27:26
SPEAKER_05: And we mean everything.
27:29
SPEAKER_05: But yeah, just doing that water rinse and then just putting on sunscreen.
27:33
SPEAKER_05: It's like I literally use one product a lot of the time.
27:37
SPEAKER_01: I fully agree with this.
27:39
SPEAKER_01: I also did not cleanse my face every day or every morning.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh, but you then you get like the hygiene olympics happening.
27:46
SPEAKER_05: You know what?
27:47
SPEAKER_05: What the hell do those people know?
27:49
SPEAKER_01: Have you seen the ones where it's like, no, bar soaps would not cleanse you and make you clean.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: You have to use an antibacterial soap first, and then you can go.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, girl.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: Well, the dry skin.
28:00
SPEAKER_05: My favorite was people going on and on about like the dove beauty bar is not soap.
28:08
SPEAKER_05: It's a beauty bar, so it's only gonna moisturize your skin.
28:12
SPEAKER_05: And me having to get up on the internet and explain what a synthetic detergent is and the difference between a detergent and a soap.
28:22
SPEAKER_05: So people do get up on social media and talk about shit they don't know about all the time.
28:28
SPEAKER_01: These are the kids that sat in the back during biology class.
28:31
SPEAKER_05: They should have been left behind.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: They weren't.
28:34
SPEAKER_05: This is George W.
28:36
SPEAKER_05: Bush's legacy.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: Uh, what's some of your favorite affordable products products?
28:39
SPEAKER_01: We talked, we just listed some of our favorite products, but like what else do you really enjoy?
28:44
SPEAKER_05: A big tub of that original Cere V cream, vana cream.
28:50
SPEAKER_05: Vanna cream, face and body, and you get the big thing with the pump.
28:54
SPEAKER_05: It lasts a long time.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: Slept on drugstore brand.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: No one gives her the hype she deserves, and she's so affordable.
29:01
SPEAKER_01: And she's doing some really interesting stuff.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: Gold Bonds, they have really fun formulas, they're really affordable.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: My thing is they're really comprehensive in the way I really like a formula to be.
29:11
SPEAKER_01: They really focus on like their shtick is like three key vitamins, then they feature like really um natural moisturizing, natural moisturizing factor-rich formulations, really cool textures, really interesting active stories.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, and no one talks about gold bond the way they should be.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: But it's one of those where it exists right next to the CeraVs and the Cetophils, and to me, they're doing a lot more interesting stuff.
29:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
29:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
29:36
SPEAKER_05: I mean, I'm a big fan, obviously, of CeraV, Cetophil.
29:41
SPEAKER_05: I work with these brands all the time, but like when it's right, it's right.
29:45
SPEAKER_05: Like when it works, it really does work.
29:47
SPEAKER_05: It does what it needs to do.
29:49
SPEAKER_05: It's not super expensive.
29:51
SPEAKER_05: Um, I also think, yeah, another product that I love that's slept on is amlactin, ammonium lactate moisturizer.
30:02
SPEAKER_05: Great for KP, very inexpensive.
30:06
SPEAKER_05: And like I've had more patients have success with that than anything else for KP.
30:11
SPEAKER_05: And it's like 12 bucks.
30:14
SPEAKER_05: Um, also, Sarna lotion.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: Ooh, I do love sarna.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: I actually learned about Sarna because of Angelo, but it's one of those where it's like with these products, it's very to the point sometimes.
30:25
SPEAKER_01: They're not, they don't have smells, so they're fragrance-free.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: They're very much here as the intended benefit for you.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: And Sarna is like really cute.
30:33
SPEAKER_05: Anti-itch.
30:34
SPEAKER_05: Their original has camphor and menthol in it.
30:37
SPEAKER_05: Put that shit in the fridge.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Chili.
30:40
SPEAKER_05: When you get itchy or if you have like an itchy condition, take that out when you need it.
30:45
SPEAKER_05: They also make sarna sensitive, which has uh 1% promoxine in it, which is an OTC drug for itch, fab if you need it.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Um that's the whole shtick is the anti-itch.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Number one, recommended anti-itch from dermatologist.
31:01
SPEAKER_05: Hence Neutrogena as well.
31:04
SPEAKER_05: Oh god.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: That my favorite body sunscreen, Neutrogena Beach Defense SPF 70.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: The way that stuff smells, uh, it's cracked to me.
31:14
SPEAKER_05: The Hydro Boost Gel Cleanser, fabulous cleanser.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: The Hydro Boost Water Cream, amazing for oily skin.
31:21
SPEAKER_01: Their new uh Cloud Tech B-E-M-T featured featuring sunscreen, gorgeous.
31:28
SPEAKER_05: The uh retinol repair line, very nice if you're looking for retinal.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: This is one of those where I'm like, we disclosure, we've worked with Neutrogena in the past, but for me, Neutrogena stands in the specific, it stands next to the Cetophil and the CeraVs, in that the hype has built and there's such a um a profile behind the brands.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like at one point Neutrogena was on par with uh LaRoche and an Olay, but the price point for those two has just gone up so much.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Neutrogena to me has stayed very on par being very affordable.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: And even within them, they have like a wide range for their sunscreens.
32:03
SPEAKER_01: Some of them are very affordable, some of them exist around$20, but to me, still it's very affordable for a face sunscreen in the drugstore now.
32:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the prices are going up.
32:12
SPEAKER_05: And I do love me some La Roche.
32:14
SPEAKER_05: They make my favorite cleanser of all time.
32:16
SPEAKER_05: That's Hillarian hydrating cleanser.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: But isn't that also like a big bottle, too?
32:20
SPEAKER_05: It's 200 mls or more.
32:23
SPEAKER_05: That's not a bad price.
32:24
SPEAKER_05: Not a bad price for something so large.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean that's getting expensive at the drugstore.
32:34
SPEAKER_05: Let's talk about being frugal while we're talking about it.
32:38
SPEAKER_05: Procedures.
32:40
SPEAKER_05: I think that sometimes to achieve a particular goal, people should save the money from buying all the expensive products and actually go get an in-office treatment.
32:54
SPEAKER_05: Because it may not, when you add it up, be that expensive compared to what you're already spending on beauty.
33:02
SPEAKER_05: And I've already said if you're VIB Rouge, you can afford to get a laser done.
33:09
SPEAKER_05: It's just like if you're already spending that much on your routine, I think you can afford it.
33:15
SPEAKER_05: And there's stuff that's cheaper than getting a laser done, and you could get a chemical peel, really affordable.
33:21
SPEAKER_05: What I will say though is do not skimp on like what you're paying for that work.
33:30
SPEAKER_05: Because there's a lot of people out here that have really low prices on stuff, and if they do, there's a reason.
33:37
SPEAKER_05: It's either they're very inexperienced or they don't have access to that much.
33:43
SPEAKER_05: I would say if you want to get the best work done, go to somebody with experience who has a lot of tools at their disposal.
33:50
SPEAKER_05: Because, as I always say, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
34:00
SPEAKER_05: So these, you know, RNs that get an IPL machine and want to use that on every damn thing, that's not the way to go, always.
34:09
SPEAKER_05: I've also seen people getting taken advantage of by injectors.
34:13
SPEAKER_05: Like they'll come to me and be like, Well, I got Botox like in all these different areas on my face.
34:19
SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, Well, they were taking you for a ride because while these are all areas you could get Botox injected, you don't need this.
34:28
SPEAKER_05: Like, you don't have the use case for it.
34:31
SPEAKER_05: They're just selling it to people because they can.
34:34
SPEAKER_05: So, in the end, I think that sometimes, and it's hard to find the right person, but sometimes people are getting taken advantage of.
34:42
SPEAKER_05: They're paying for stuff they don't need, they're paying for stuff that won't work.
34:47
SPEAKER_05: So there's ways of doing it with some financial insight.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: And to be able to afford procedures and injections filled with all that, it is a privilege.
34:58
SPEAKER_01: And these they still do cost a lot of money.
35:00
SPEAKER_01: But if you're in the position where it's choose a lot of different skincare products that are topicals versus a more invasive procedure, do the procedure, also invest in the preventative.
35:10
SPEAKER_01: Wear your sunscreen.
35:12
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because over time that's gonna save you more money, actually.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Like the being the byproduct of the generation who would tan with baby oil on them.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying my parents very heavily regret that.
35:25
SPEAKER_01: They're asking all these questions about like what do I do for this?
35:27
SPEAKER_01: How do I fix this?
35:28
SPEAKER_01: I need to get rid of this, and it's like you could have prevented so much of that.
35:31
SPEAKER_05: I recently heard somebody say if it they say if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but fix it before it breaks.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: Period.
35:44
SPEAKER_05: Sunscreen.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: Sunscreen.
35:46
SPEAKER_01: I was going back to sunscreen.
35:47
SPEAKER_05: What do you think is the uh top price that you would pay for a skincare product?
35:56
SPEAKER_05: And I don't mean a device, I mean like a singular jar of something.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: It depends on what the product is and what I want out of it.
36:06
SPEAKER_01: Going back to again, we talk about a wide range of products.
36:08
SPEAKER_01: My beef with a lot of the more affordable brands is they're just kind of boring to use.
36:13
SPEAKER_01: So if I'm if I'm presented with a sensorial experience and an elevated user experience where I'm like, oh, this feels luxe and it smells amazing, I'll pay more.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: And I'm a very big fan of, for example, Shiseido.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: Shiseido has a wide range of product categories.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: Longcomb skincare, I like a lot.
36:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's good.
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Um, we both touched on, I know we've talked about Revive and behind the scenes.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: And for me, Revive, it just has this thing of it smells good, it has a smell, but like a lot of drugstore stuff has a smell, for example.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: But some of the drugstore stuff, it just doesn't smell expensive.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: The Reviv stuff smells really nice.
36:46
SPEAKER_01: LaMayer.
36:47
SPEAKER_01: We talk about LaMay or we're gonna get canceled.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: So it just like, what is it that you want out of a product?
36:52
SPEAKER_01: What can you afford?
36:53
SPEAKER_01: What's justified and worth it to you?
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I will spend more if I'm like, damn, this stuff is so fun to use and I actually enjoy using it.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: How gaggy would it be if I'm like$15?
37:04
SPEAKER_05: Well, yeah.
37:06
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, what is the cheapest skincare product that would be in your regular stash?
37:11
SPEAKER_05: Do you think?
37:13
SPEAKER_01: Does a lip product count?
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, because I bought lip gloss at the beauty supply store for like a dollar.
37:19
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love a good lip gloss.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: Um, regular skincare.
37:24
SPEAKER_05: Mine's probably the Dove Beauty Bar on scented.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Now here's the deal for me.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: A shower is like a very ritualistic experience for me.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: So I do have drugstore.
37:34
SPEAKER_01: I have the remedy body wash, I have prequel up in there, panteen, uh, miracle rescue conditioner.
37:41
SPEAKER_01: Love her.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: Saltare.
37:43
SPEAKER_01: What else?
37:43
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, skincare wise.
37:44
SPEAKER_01: I like big packaging.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: I like substantial, so I can use her face and body.
37:48
SPEAKER_05: She's a size queen.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, the ordinary glycolic acid toner is like seven or ten dollars, right?
37:56
SPEAKER_05: 12, I think.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's gone up.
37:58
SPEAKER_01: I remember back in the day, it was.
37:59
SPEAKER_05: Or is it 12% glycolic acid?
38:01
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, that's too high.
38:02
SPEAKER_01: That's too high.
38:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it can only go up.
38:04
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's 7%.
38:05
SPEAKER_05: Sorry.
38:05
SPEAKER_01: Ordinary glycolic.
38:07
SPEAKER_05: I'm just throwing out numbers right now.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: $9.
38:11
SPEAKER_05: $9.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: Love her.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: I've almost emptied one already.
38:13
SPEAKER_01: Because I use it for scalp, face, and body.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: And hair, like hair shaft.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: Glycolic acid in the hair.
38:19
SPEAKER_05: All over the shaft.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: But to that point, that's a product.
38:23
SPEAKER_01: It's nine dollars.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: It's how many mil?
38:26
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't say a lot.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of meals.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: And I use it from literally head to toe, from like the tips of my hair shaft down to like the bottom of my feet.
38:34
SPEAKER_05: Damn.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: So I get a lot of bang out of that buck.
38:37
SPEAKER_05: I mean, yeah.
38:39
SPEAKER_05: What else do I use?
38:40
SPEAKER_05: That's really I always have Vaseline.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: I always have Aquifor.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: Vaseline body care.
38:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, really nice.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: The radiant the Radiant X line is one of my favorites.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: Like the going back to sensory, that is an affordable drugstore product, and you have a lot of different textures.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: The oil, the body cream, the lotion.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: Some of them, some of the products were active focused as well.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: It's all less than$20.
39:04
SPEAKER_05: Dove makes these new like oil body washes.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: I want to try those so bad.
39:10
SPEAKER_05: So good.
39:11
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
39:12
SPEAKER_05: Talk about like affordable, but feels luxurious.
39:15
SPEAKER_05: They smell so good.
39:17
SPEAKER_05: I think a lot of what Dove and I think overall those Unilever brands have been trying to do is elevating their scent profiles and everything.
39:26
SPEAKER_05: And I think they brought in perfumers who worked in like prestige, smart, smart.
39:34
SPEAKER_05: So, like this new stuff that they're coming out with.
39:37
SPEAKER_05: I right now I'm using one of their body scrubs, the dub body scrub that's like a limited edition, like sage and tanka bean or something.
39:47
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, it smells so nice.
39:50
SPEAKER_05: It's and it gives you that experience.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: And going back to earlier, you talked about the competitive aspect that K-Beauty's bringing into the market.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: A lot of Korean skincare is super, super cheap, and they're delving into body care.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: Um who is it?
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh Medicube.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Medicube has one of my favorite body washes.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: It has a really small percentage of salicylic acid, but it has a really nice, like sandalwoody scent to it.
40:14
SPEAKER_01: And it's a big bottle, too.
40:16
SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're getting into body, they're getting into hair.
40:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
40:19
SPEAKER_05: Dr.
40:19
SPEAKER_05: Groot.
40:20
unknown: Dr.
40:20
unknown: God.
40:21
unknown: Dr.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Groot.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: Dr.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: Groot.
40:26
SPEAKER_01: Innisfree just sent body care.
40:28
SPEAKER_01: But we saw this, I saw this when I was at Olive Bang in Korea last time.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: So it's not like a new new launch.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: And it's Innisfree, so it's like a very established Korean skincare brand.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't know how much it costs, but I know in the Sephora landscape, Innisfree is very competitive with cost.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: My only issue is I hate the smell.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't smell bad.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: I just hate the smell.
40:45
SPEAKER_01: It's very like herbal.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Nothing cheap and product to me, then it's smelling just like straight eucalyptus.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:52
SPEAKER_01: Also, I hate the smell of lavender.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: What?
40:55
SPEAKER_01: I know.
40:56
SPEAKER_05: We are like polar opposites on everything.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: I want like a warm vanilla, an amber, a musk.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: Sandalwood.
41:06
SPEAKER_05: That sounds good too, though.
41:08
SPEAKER_01: Anyways, that being said, going back to body, face hair, all that.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: Innis free.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: No, isn't tree.
41:14
SPEAKER_05: I always get those two big stuff.
41:15
SPEAKER_05: Innis free, essentially.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: The essentially hyaluronic acid toner, 300ml bottle.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: And that's one I just take all over the face and the body.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Um, really lightweight texture, really sinks in nice, gives you that nice hydrated feel.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: That bottle lasts forever.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: Frequel the appeal, the AHA milky toner.
41:34
SPEAKER_05: Very nice.
41:35
SPEAKER_05: Also.
41:36
SPEAKER_05: The Gleanser, head to toe.
41:38
SPEAKER_05: Head to toe.
41:39
SPEAKER_05: Not your hair, but well, here's the deal, actually.
41:42
SPEAKER_05: Glycerin for your scalp, baby.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: No, um, well, that's a thing for shampoo, for example.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm focusing on the scalp.
41:49
SPEAKER_01: Um, there was another glycolic acid body wash that I really loved a lot that I can't use anymore.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: People have talked about the Gleanser one, the Glencer glycolic acid.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't love that one in my hair, but I know people do.
42:02
SPEAKER_01: Again, glycolic acid in the hair, both scalp and on the shaft itself.
42:07
SPEAKER_05: So, how do you use it?
42:08
SPEAKER_05: Are you doing it pre-shampoo?
42:10
SPEAKER_01: No, that is the shampoo.
42:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay, what about when you're using the glycolic acid toner?
42:16
SPEAKER_05: That's the shampoo?
42:17
SPEAKER_05: Or you're shampooing it out?
42:18
SPEAKER_01: So I have a few different types of things.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I want to know the nitty-gritty.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: Give me the details.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: What's the vibe?
42:23
SPEAKER_01: What's the what's the what's the following looking like?
42:26
SPEAKER_01: So if I have an event where I'm like the hair has to be right, I will shampoo in shower, no conditioner.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Out of the shower, I will soak my hair in glycolic acid.
42:35
SPEAKER_01: The ordinary glycolic acid toner or Soltera just launched the glycolic acid mist.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: She's cute.
42:39
SPEAKER_01: She's cute.
42:40
SPEAKER_01: And it allows easier uh application in the hair.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: Let that cook for a few minutes.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: Then a treatment product.
42:47
SPEAKER_01: You know what's slapping right now?
42:49
SPEAKER_05: What?
42:50
SPEAKER_01: Abby Young just launched the miracle rescue panteen thing.
42:54
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: Crack for the hair.
42:56
SPEAKER_05: Crack?
42:57
SPEAKER_05: I've not tried it.
42:57
SPEAKER_05: I have to get that.
42:58
SPEAKER_01: That miracle rescue line I love a lot.
43:00
SPEAKER_01: Having it in like a mist applicator, gorge.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'll do that after the glycolic acid's cooked for a minute.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: And basically, glycolic acid allows for more manageability, allows for increased penetration of certain hair actives, better shine.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: I'll let that set in for a couple minutes.
43:15
SPEAKER_01: I'll start diffusing, and then I'll style on top of that.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: And my hair is just so soft and silky and shiny and smooth.
43:22
SPEAKER_05: So I think it's like the the charge on the acid actually helps bring your cuticle.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: Well, it actually showed the penetration of the glycolic acid itself into the shaft as well.
43:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
43:32
SPEAKER_05: No, but I'm saying like it could make it look smoother because your your cuticle is going.
43:41
SPEAKER_05: So okay, I have to try that now.
43:46
SPEAKER_05: I actually I have the saltair glycolic acid spray in my bathroom waiting for me to use.
43:51
SPEAKER_01: So And that's one where I'm like, you know, parting the hair, getting all up in there, getting on the scalp, massaging it in, then face, and then body.
43:57
SPEAKER_01: Do not inhale it.
43:58
SPEAKER_05: Do not inhale glycolic acid.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: It is like literally inhaling pepper spray.
44:01
SPEAKER_01: It's not cute.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: But on the body is very cute.
44:06
SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
44:06
SPEAKER_01: So that's my thing.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: But if you don't want to do that whole process, a glycolic acid focused cleansing product on the scalp and in the hair, leave it on for a couple minutes in the shower, rinse out, condition afterwards.
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Comfortable effect.
44:20
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
44:21
SPEAKER_05: So let me get this straight.
44:22
SPEAKER_05: Shampoo, glycolic acid.
44:25
SPEAKER_05: Don't don't rinse it out.
44:27
SPEAKER_01: No, because basically it's like I'm shampooing in the shower, towel drying my hair so it's like damp, glycolic acid, let it cook.
44:36
SPEAKER_05: Do you let it fully dry or just leave it for a few minutes and then you can do it?
44:41
SPEAKER_01: I might diffuse it to get it just the damp it, not damp it, to get it less wet.
44:46
SPEAKER_01: So it's not soaking wet because then I'm gonna go in with something else that's gonna get it again wet again.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: But this is a conditioning treatment focused product.
44:52
SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: Um and again, like the Abbey Young one, it's like a 15 in one situation, so it like does uh have heat protectant as well.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: So then I'll let that sit for a minute and then I'll start to diffuse.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: And then when it's like damp but still kind of wet, I'll style.
45:08
SPEAKER_05: Another way to save money when it comes to hair, um, hair mask and conditioner, basically the same thing.
45:16
SPEAKER_05: So you don't need to do it twice.
45:17
SPEAKER_01: I find hair masks have a higher percentage of the conditioning actives and they tend to feel more substantive, they have more richness to them, which part of that does come from the conditioning actives as well.
45:28
SPEAKER_01: Um fatty alcohols.
45:31
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, they're the same thing.
45:32
SPEAKER_05: Also, if you're finding that you have to shampoo twice, get a different shampoo.
45:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the detergency of the shampoo you have isn't doing it well enough.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: So it's not, it's not, it's not clarifying your hair well.
45:42
SPEAKER_05: It's a great word, detergency.
45:43
SPEAKER_05: It's like the level of the of cleaningness, it's like a detergency emergency.
45:50
SPEAKER_05: And your shampoo.
45:51
SPEAKER_05: And your shampoo.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: And that's the one thing is ironically, drugstore shampoos use sulfates, a lot of them, and sulfates are amazing, amazing detergents.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: And if you offset that with uh good cocerfactin, the irritation potential substantially reduced.
46:08
SPEAKER_05: The ordinary makes a fabulous shampoo with sulfates.
46:12
SPEAKER_01: I do not like that shampoo.
46:14
SPEAKER_05: What?
46:14
SPEAKER_05: I loved it, it's super gentle.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: I didn't like the way it felt in my hair.
46:18
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
46:19
SPEAKER_05: The conditioner though.
46:20
SPEAKER_05: Conditioner's nice too.
46:21
SPEAKER_05: Oh, and the not that expensive.
46:24
SPEAKER_01: It's$10.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: I'm literally on the road sorry now.
46:28
SPEAKER_05: Mama, less research.
46:30
SPEAKER_01: Let's research.
46:32
SPEAKER_01: $9.20.
46:33
SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: $9.20.
46:36
SPEAKER_05: It's not a big pack, but not bad.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: Size doesn't always matter.
46:39
SPEAKER_01: It's$240 mil.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: It's pretty good.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: That's the one thing, though, is when you get into specific hair concerns, hair textures, all that, specifically when it comes to, as I've learned with formulation, the user experience of conditioners differs so substantially from person to person.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: The ordinary conditioner to me, it's a little bit thin.
46:58
SPEAKER_01: It's milkier than I would like.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: I like a very like rich, substantive texture.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: I want it to be like a cream.
47:05
SPEAKER_05: Make that sound again.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: Um so that's where, that's where uh certain brands, I prefer to go to them.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Speaking of brands, though, and going back to conditioning masks, last brand of the episode.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: I think it's interesting.
47:20
SPEAKER_01: We hate on celebrity brands, but I think it's cool when celebrities know their demographic and also stay true to who they are and understand a niche that's not being tapped into right now.
47:30
SPEAKER_01: Cardi B launched Grow Good, which is their hair care line.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: I got to experience the line when I went to BeautyCon a couple weeks back.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: I got, I actually bought the mask myself, and the brand was like, What, you're a creator?
47:42
SPEAKER_01: Here's the rest of the line to try out.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: Um, the big thing with that is all the products are very affordable.
47:48
SPEAKER_01: They're$15 or less.
47:50
SPEAKER_01: And I know a lot of people were like, oh, like, uh, could it be that good?
47:53
SPEAKER_01: People are talking about like you get a good amount of use out of the products.
47:56
SPEAKER_04: Nice.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: The hair mask, I actually really like a lot.
48:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: The scents, the whole point of it is it's like, oh, it's like combining the goodness of like what you use in your kitchen with effective hair technology.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: So it's a good mix of like oils and butters with actual like silicones and things that are going to make a difference in your hair.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: The scent smells like produce.
48:17
SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
48:18
SPEAKER_01: Like it wants to smell like, oh, it smells like kale.
48:21
SPEAKER_05: Like vegetable.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: Kind of to me.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: To me.
48:24
SPEAKER_05: Botanical.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: Botanical.
48:27
SPEAKER_05: Is it giving the mask?
48:29
SPEAKER_01: It is.
48:30
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
48:31
SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: It's like literally, it looks like a butter tub.
48:36
SPEAKER_05: Okay, well.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: But great product, super effective, really cool uh hair technologies in there.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: So, like they're mean, I forgot what they trademarked it as, but when we buy it, the actual raw material, uh, a lot of good data for hair, for hair manageability, damage, and shine.
48:51
SPEAKER_01: And really, very price point.
48:54
SPEAKER_05: Slay.
48:55
SPEAKER_01: So she saw a niche, also leaves are going prestige, and she was like, Let me come at you ass.
49:00
SPEAKER_05: And with that, we'd like to know what are some of your, you know, frugal beauty tips?
49:07
SPEAKER_05: What are some of your favorite inexpensive products?
49:10
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49:13
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49:17
SPEAKER_01: No, you're gonna say that, and they're gonna be like, I don't buy products, I just make them in my kitchen because that's natural and it's cheaper.
49:22
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49:24
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