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Handel on the News · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 2: Let me put it this way. Calendar this one, okay?
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  Speaker 3: A legal issue of which I actually know what I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: That's August 26, 2026.
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  Speaker 3: Handel said he knows what he is talking about legally.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And now, Handle on the News.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, here's Bill Handel.
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  Speaker 3: And it is a Thursday morning, August 27.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Oh, it's going to be hot.
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  Speaker 3: I think I heard you this morning, Amy, about the
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  Speaker 3: possibility that it.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to be a schvitz.
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  Speaker 4: There's a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: Of a schvitz. So it's definitely hot, but maybe a schvitz.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe.
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  Speaker 5: Possibly some monsoonal moisture, might see some thunderstorms. And we're
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  Speaker 5: going to see more clouds today than we've had.
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  Speaker 3: Well, do you know what monsoonal, what is it, monsoonal thunderstorms?
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  Speaker 4: Monsoonal moisture?
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  Speaker 3: Monsoonal moisture. That's just another word for schvitz. See, that's
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  Speaker 3: fairly easy to pronounce.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough. Yeah, you were talking about the temperatures.
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  Speaker 3: Woodland Hills is the best place in the valleys to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, 112 yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: 112 in Woodland Hills. What a delight that is. And
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  Speaker 3: Anne lives in Woodland Hills.
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct, Anne?
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  Speaker 5: Yay!
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  Speaker 2: Thank God for air conditioning.
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  Speaker 3: I win.
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  Speaker 2: 112 degrees.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it's a dry heat. You know that?
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  Speaker 2: It's a dry heat. Same thing on Venus. It's a
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  Speaker 2: dry heat. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Bake something in the oven. It's a dry heat. So
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  Speaker 2: that all works out. Anyway, Anne, good morning.
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  Speaker 5: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. And Amy, the Schwitz lady.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning. Neil.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like calling her sweaty? Yeah, that's a little weird.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Schwitz is actually a- Women don't sweat, we glow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. You glow. Yeah, you glow like a pig. Okay. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Coming out swinging today.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Schwitz is basically a steam bath. So it is
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  Speaker 3: a schvitz. It's also a verb. You can schvitz. It
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  Speaker 3: is a schvitz or it is.
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  Speaker 1: One has schvitzed?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, one has schvitz. We all schvitz. Can you be
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  Speaker 2: a schvitzer? A schvitzer? No, I don't think so. Who
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  Speaker 2: is it?
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  Speaker 1: You're a schvitzer.
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  Speaker 2: A schvitzer.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds dirty.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't it? Doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like a, I don't know, pejorative for some
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  Speaker 1: ethnic group.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it does. Doesn't it? Which ethnic group is that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Like unknown. Unknown.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 2: And Kono, uh, there you are in the same uniform
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  Speaker 2: as always. It's not the same uniform.
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  Speaker 5: Pardon?
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  Speaker 3: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it is not. I'm sorry. A sweatshirt and your
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  Speaker 2: baseball cap.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a nice long sleeve from Costco.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, what was it?
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  Speaker 1: Then why does it have a baby cap tag?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, And I, yeah, Costco, you know what? The food
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  Speaker 3: court was closed at Costco on.
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  Speaker 2: The 25th. It was horrible. Lindsay took me to Costco,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that for my birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet lady.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I, I shared with you that we, we couldn't
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  Speaker 3: get the hot dog that she was going to put
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  Speaker 3: the candle in and sing happy birthday to me, where
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  Speaker 3: we were going to put that video, that, and they
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  Speaker 3: put it, then post it. So unfortunately that didn't happen. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: and then finally, I think Will.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Will.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Bill Handel. Okay, we're all here. The A
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  Speaker 3: team is here. How long has this team been together now?
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  Speaker 4: Three years.
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  Speaker 2: We have been together three years.
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  Speaker 3: How many teams have we had or have I had
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  Speaker 3: over the years since day one?
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  Speaker 2: Many.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, overlapping each other because some stay, some go.
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  Speaker 3: But okay, are you ready for this? We're going to
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  Speaker 3: calendar again. OK, on yesterday, I asked to have you
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  Speaker 3: folks calendar yesterday, and that was August 26, 2026.
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  Speaker 2: And why?
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  Speaker 3: Because that is the day that you note or I
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  Speaker 3: noted that there was a legal story that I actually
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  Speaker 3: knew what I was talking about.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: Which was true, by the way, having to do with
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  Speaker 3: a surrogate case out of Texas and Alaska and California.
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  Speaker 2: I talked all about it. And I'm going to do
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  Speaker 2: another one today. Okay. Another calendaring. This will never happen again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care if we are together for the next
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  Speaker 3: 20 years. Calendar this August 27, 2026. Can we have
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  Speaker 3: a drum roll, please?
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  Speaker 2: Kono, can you come up with a drum roll? If
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  Speaker 2: you can come up quickly. You know what that sounds like, Neil?
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like you're having a good time and
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  Speaker 3: you're about to start screaming. You're about to get very
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  Speaker 3: religious and start screaming, oh God, in about two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to help my buddy Kono. You put
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  Speaker 1: him under a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see. Kono, did we come up with a
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  Speaker 2: drum roll?
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  Speaker 1: There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. Drum roll.
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  Speaker 3: A statement that is going to be made that will
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  Speaker 3: never be made again, as I said. This team, we
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  Speaker 3: are together, is the best group of people I have
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  Speaker 3: ever had working on the show. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's why you'll never hear it again, okay?
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  Speaker 2: We're done. Oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We are so done. I was kind of partial to
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  Speaker 1: the very first team.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Who was that?
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to see if he could remember.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. Paul T.
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  Speaker 3: Wall was on that first team. Rich Murata was on
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  Speaker 3: that first team.
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  Speaker 2: Strong team.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he was there for a long time then.
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  Speaker 2: Dick Cabeza was on that first team.
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  Speaker 4: And did Michelle start with you? Or did she come after?
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  Speaker 2: I think she came after.
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  Speaker 1: She came out a week or two after I got here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because I couldn't screen for my life. I couldn't spell.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't type.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and that's changed, right?
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  Speaker 1: It has.
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  Speaker 2: I can type. Michelle started as an intern.
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  Speaker 1: As did I.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as did Neil. Started as an intern. Neil met
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  Speaker 2: his wife. Yeah, who was an intern too. Working on
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  Speaker 2: this show. She was an intern. Yeah, but we met.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we met, but we didn't meet until way later.
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  Speaker 2: And who else was on the show? Who cares about
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  Speaker 2: the old team?
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about us.
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  Speaker 2: No, I told you we're done. I told you we're finished.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 1: 20 years when we all mark this. He's 95.
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  Speaker 3: Todd Spitzer, who is the current DA of current district
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  Speaker 3: attorney of Orange County, was a screener of mine.
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  Speaker 2: He started as a screener.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I've had some interesting people on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Todd Spitzer?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, very good. When it's hot? The Spitz man, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing good things there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I share with you the story, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't have time to do it. Todd had asked
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  Speaker 3: me for his first run as county supervisor in Orange
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  Speaker 3: County to introduce him at his first, very first fundraiser.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's do it, guys. It is time for Handle
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  Speaker 2: on the News. Amy, Neil, and me lead story.
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  Speaker 5: Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: This is a tough one, and the video is astounding.
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  Speaker 3: Those catastrophic floods at the border of Nepal and Tibet,
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  Speaker 3: as of right now, 350 people killed. They just updated that,
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  Speaker 3: more than 1,300 missing. And if you saw the video,
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  Speaker 3: and this had to do with a landslide hitting glaciers
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  Speaker 3: that melted.
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  Speaker 2: It was....
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  Speaker 3: The water was, they figured at points 130 feet high,
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  Speaker 3: the wall of water that came in. I mean, it was,
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  Speaker 3: there's that video of that building with the parking structure
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  Speaker 3: next to it that is full of buses, tour buses,
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  Speaker 3: and then this big expanse.
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  Speaker 2: Of courtyard in front of the building.
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  Speaker 3: The water came over and there's nothing left.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is astounding, just astounding. brutal natural disaster.
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  Speaker 5: I saw some newer video this morning as it's coming
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  Speaker 5: out and it shows it just the water comes cascading
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  Speaker 5: for lack of a better word down and just takes
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  Speaker 5: out bridges like they're paper instead of hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 5: of pounds of steel and concrete.
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  Speaker 3: It's astounding to see that. Okay moving on let's get
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  Speaker 3: another couple stories before we take a break.
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  Speaker 4: A game changer.
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  Speaker 5: Doctors have a medicine now that targets a mutation that
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  Speaker 5: made pancreatic cancer basically a death sentence. The Food and
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  Speaker 5: Drug Administration just approved the drug. Carla Kurajan is an
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  Speaker 5: oncologist at Mercy Hospital in Oklahoma City. She says this
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  Speaker 5: is life altering, not just for patients as far as
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  Speaker 5: helping them extend their lives beyond anything we've ever seen,
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  Speaker 5: but also for physicians themselves. To be able to have
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  Speaker 5: a different conversation than they've been having so long when
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  Speaker 5: they tell somebody they've got pancreatic cancer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 3: How do they say it is life changing in which
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is to an extent because people live
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  Speaker 3: 13 months longer, but it doesn't make it anything, any
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  Speaker 3: less of a death sentence. It just means that you
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  Speaker 3: live a little bit longer, unless this is the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the treatment where this becomes a baseline, which would
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  Speaker 3: be absolutely terrific. The other thing about this drug, which
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoy, it's going to cost $ 39, 800 a month,
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  Speaker 3: a month to take this drug. $ 477, 000 a year. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: that's a death.
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  Speaker 2: Sentence for me. Yeah, no kidding.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait for the insurance companies to see what
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  Speaker 3: they're going to do with this. And doctors are going
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  Speaker 3: to prescribe this, and.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see if your insurance works on this one, huh?
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency director. Yeah, it's all
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  Speaker 1: the same. John Ratcliffe made a surprise trip to Moscow
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  Speaker 1: this week to warn Russia apparently against attacking NATO. There's
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of multiple media reports going out there. It
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  Speaker 1: was first reported, I think, by Wall Street Journal, then
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  Speaker 1: Politico and CBS reported the same. The Kremlin spokesperson said,
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  Speaker 1: Dmitry Peskov, meanwhile, said Ratcliffe did not meet with Putin
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  Speaker 1: during his visit to Moscow and declined to specify whether
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  Speaker 1: the meeting concerned issues such as Ukraine and Iran, although U.S.
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  Speaker 1: President said that this was semi-routine, this meeting there.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean, semi-routine?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't either.
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  Speaker 3: Also, the thought of Russia attacking NATO or a NATO
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  Speaker 3: country It seems a little bit outlandish to me. Russia
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  Speaker 3: can barely keep up with the war in Ukraine. Can
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  Speaker 3: you imagine 27 European nations? Russia, I mean, France, England, Germany. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: put all those armies together and you fight them.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't understand. Don't attack NATO.
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  Speaker 3: Even if the United States pulls out and would not
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  Speaker 3: fight NATO, because right now the fight between NATO and
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  Speaker 3: the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Is going on is pretty strong. I don't see it happening.
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  Speaker 4: We may need to beef up our cybersecurity a bit.
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  Speaker 2: The U.S.
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  Speaker 5: Says it had disrupted a Chinese hacking operation responsible for
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  Speaker 5: break-ins and attempts on the Justice Department, on NASA, on
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  Speaker 5: the Federal Reserve, the Senate, and other government agencies. A
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  Speaker 5: spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in Washington said that while
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  Speaker 5: they were not familiar with the specifics mentioned in the
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  Speaker 5: DOJ statement, the Chinese government firmly opposes and combats all
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  Speaker 5: forms of cyber attacks in accordance with the law.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Bat pablum. Blah, blah, blah. This is the government. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we don't do it. You talk about gaslighting.
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  Speaker 1: Your health and well-being is our paramount concern.
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  Speaker 3: That is absolutely correct. And you can insert name of company,
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  Speaker 3: individual life. corporation, country in there. And the two hacking
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  Speaker 3: platforms that were mentioned that were Chinese, Q-scan and QT router.
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  Speaker 3: The other one was the Chinese said, absolutely not is
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  Speaker 3: the orange chicken platform. They said that is not ours.
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  Speaker 1: Well, technically it's not. I think it was an American invention,
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  Speaker 1: but whatevs.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Bill, you said this probably would not happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm kind of blown away that it has. But
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  Speaker 1: Brian Koberger, he's been granted a new hearing. If you remember,
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  Speaker 1: this was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a hearing.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that doesn't mean... He wants to take back his
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  Speaker 3: guilty plea. That doesn't mean that he's going to get it.
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  Speaker 3: That just means the judge said, okay, I'll hear the arguments.
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  Speaker 1: But what argument are you going to give after you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the argument he's going to give. And that
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  Speaker 2: is his.
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  Speaker 3: Guilty plea was done under duress. He was pressured to
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  Speaker 3: plead guilty. There was information that was withheld from him
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  Speaker 3: that could have changed his view of the guilty plea
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  Speaker 3: and not pled guilty.
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  Speaker 2: I still don't think it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So those who don't remember, keep in mind, this is
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  Speaker 1: the University of Idaho quadruple murderer.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Four students. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And he pleaded guilty for the trade of taking the
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  Speaker 1: death penalty off. He got four consecutive life terms. And
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  Speaker 1: now he says, I don't want to plead guilty anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You can take back a guilty plea. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: does exist. And then it gets really interesting in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the jury trial. Because you have a jury that
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  Speaker 1: probably knows he's already pled guilty, has admitted he has
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  Speaker 1: done this. And now they're sitting as jurors in a
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  Speaker 1: trial and the judge has to say, you cannot consider that.
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  Speaker 3: All you can do is consider the evidence in front
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  Speaker 3: of you. How does a human being do that? How
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  Speaker 3: do you unring that bell?
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: The hearing is in about 10 months, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we got time.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of hearings and all of that court cases, jury's
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  Speaker 5: about to get the case. Testimonies wrapped up in the
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  Speaker 5: murder trial of Lindsay Clancy. She's the mom accused of
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  Speaker 5: strangling her three young children at their home in Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 5: Whether she did it or not is not what's being
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  Speaker 5: contested here. She's admitted that she did do it. But
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  Speaker 5: she also pleaded not guilty by reason of lack of
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  Speaker 5: criminal responsibility, saying she was experiencing postpartum depression.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an insanity defense. That's basically it. Not guilty
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  Speaker 3: by reason of insanity. And it's– remember Susan Yates who
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  Speaker 3: drowned her kids in the car and ran them– or
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  Speaker 3: Susan Smith ran them in the lake?
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  Speaker 2: She was able to get off on an insanity plea.
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  Speaker 2: So was Hinckley.
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  Speaker 3: He was able to get off on an insanity plea.
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  Speaker 2: Really hard to do. I mean, the bar is so
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  Speaker 2: high on that one. You can count on one hand
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  Speaker 2: how many people get away with that one.
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  Speaker 1: She mentioned multiple times that she was having issues and
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  Speaker 1: she was having thoughts of killing the baby.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question. Yeah, there's no question. There's no question.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the judge did allow, if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 3: did allow the jury to consider manslaughter. I think although
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  Speaker 3: this is a here and I don't if I if
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  Speaker 3: memory is I can look that one up. Would you, Amy,
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  Speaker 3: whether I'm right or wrong on that one?
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  Speaker 4: Would he have done that before closing arguments were presented?
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  Speaker 4: Because they haven't been done yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would. I think so. Or maybe not. Yeah, please.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember. I'm trying to remember.
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  Speaker 1: We had a lawyer present.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I told you yesterday, calendar the one time in
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  Speaker 3: the history of this show, and we've been at this
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  Speaker 3: for 33 years in the morning. Calendar the one time
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  Speaker 3: I have said I know what I'm talking about legally.
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  Speaker 4: Jury can consider manslaughter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So the judge has already ruled that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Prosecutors, rather, rested their case yesterday after calling 24 witnesses
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  Speaker 1: in the murder trial of Dwayne Davis, a.k.a., what is it,
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  Speaker 1: Kefi D? For the 1996 killing of Tupac Shakur. So
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at 30 years ago. They had day eight
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  Speaker 1: of testimony. The prosecutors finished. And now we wait for
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  Speaker 1: the defense to as they begin presenting their own witnesses
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  Speaker 1: and evidence. But they accuse Davis of being the leader
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  Speaker 1: or shot caller who planned the drive-by shooting in Vegas
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  Speaker 1: based on some physical fight between Tupac and Davis's nephew,
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  Speaker 1: Orlando Anderson.
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  Speaker 3: Their entire case rests on his statements that he made
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  Speaker 3: in his book about where he said, yep, I did
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  Speaker 3: it here. I mean, guy's a moron. And so they
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: took that and said, okay, you've admitted it. And now
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: his defense is, I was just joking. I really, I
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: just did that for purposes of a book. And it's crazy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: He did have a recorded confession, including the 2008 police
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: interview and stuff like that.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And he says he was joking about that one too.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: So good for him. Yeah, he is very funny. Tupac,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: he's pretty well built. He should have been called six pock.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, boy.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He should have been a Kilmedian.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's move on. Sometimes they work.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Most times they don't.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Well, so much for the right to a speedy trial.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: 27 years later, the foreman accused of conspiring in the
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: terrorist attacks on 9-11 that killed nearly 3,000 people has
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: been set for June of 2028. 27 years after it happened.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Prosecutors had asked the judge to have the trial begin
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay in January
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: of next year. But defense lawyers apparently and the judge
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: said that was unrealistic. So 2028.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: This is a real interesting case in that they've been
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: held at Guantanamo, as you said, for the last 27
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: years in prison, of course. And lawsuit after lawsuit, they
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: have made motions in front of the court. We want
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: a trial. We want a trial. We're entitled to due process.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: And the court has said, you're really not in America.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You're at a military base outside of the United States.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: So you are not entitled to due process. So they're
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: finally going to get their military trial. which usually doesn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: happen either because they're not a member of any military.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: And it's– he's looking at– and he– with this Sheikh Khalid, actually,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Mohammed Khalid, I think that's his name. He was– he
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: tried to plead out, and the government said, no, not interested.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Why 27 years?
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Because they could have kept him forever. They could have
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: detained him until the day he died. under current rules
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and the law and the way the judges ruled.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Very interesting case.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: And so the fact that he was willing to plead
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: guilty and just take the death penalty off the table
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: indicates to me.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: That the government's going to go for the death penalty.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I think is going to happen. Oh, fun, fun, fun.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: You know, we are getting nickeled and dimed to death.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: And now you can when you go to a shopping mall,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: if you want the parking that's close to the food corridor,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: if you want the parking close to the front door
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: and the entrance there, well, you're going to have to pay.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: And people are not thrilled about this. So it's they
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: have a little. QR code to scan, or you can
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: send a text message to a five-digit number. And then
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you shell out about $ 2. 45 for the first hour and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: $ 2 every hour after that. The cap is about $ 10. 45
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: a day. But this is happening out here. This is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: at the Northridge Fashion Center. And the Valley Plaza Mall
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in Bakersfield is what I'm seeing. But it's happening across
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the country.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: You're right.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: You're nickel and diming your death. Matter of fact, you're
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: going to probably see, if you want to see your
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: car again in the parking lot, here's what you're going
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to pay.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: At Americana, it doesn't matter. You pay no matter what.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: There are shopping centers, shopping facilities that you pay come
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: hell or high water.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: In those areas, those outdoor malls, they're packed. You go
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to a regular mall nowadays, nobody's going to them. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the last thing I would want to do is pay
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: because you're going to get free parking if you have
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to walk. But yes, those other ones, they're gorgeous, they're clean,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and they don't have a bunch of vacancies.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Someone needs to kick the tires. An American Airlines plane
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: blew two tires taxiing for departure at O'Hare Airport. This
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: was the fourth tire mishap in a month in Chicago.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Last Monday, two planes had tire damage after landing at
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: O'Hare just hours apart. An American Airlines blew two tires
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: after landing. The FAA says hours later the tires on
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: a United plane were damaged on landing. Three days before that,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: a United flight had to abort a takeoff. Because it
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: had tire damage. And then just last night, tires caught
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: fire on a DHL plane that landed at LAX.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's spectacular. I don't think I've shared this story
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: with you. I was on an airplane where the tires
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: blew off upon takeoff. It was a Japan Airlines flight.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I was on my way out there. And it was–
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: we're taking off and all of a sudden– The plane
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: starts shaking. It's going to fall apart as it takes off.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And it was the tires being blown. It was 747.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So what did they do? Stop and change it? No,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: they just kept on going.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: What did you do when you landed?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Well, it turned out it still landed because not enough
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: tires blew out.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But it was.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: really interesting because the pilot kept on saying in broken English,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: everything is fine.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: There's no problem. This is normal.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: As we're flying, basically at stall speed over the control
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: tower and the control tower had a veranda around it
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: where you could step outside and you had guys with
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: their binoculars looking at the undercarriage.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Of the plane.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: And then there were the trucks uh fire trucks lined
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: up on the side of uh the runway everything was
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: fine and it turned out that uh it was rough
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: it was a rough landing but it that there was
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: nothing they can do i mean the tires blew uh
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: they're uh so they just kept they kept on going.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: But they didn't have to do a foam runway or
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: anything like that or.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: No no they didn't they look that's where the guys
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: in the control tower were looking up and realized that
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: uh the undercarriage was fine the wheels were lowered and
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: they took a look and said yeah you can you
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: can land give it a go Yeah, I remember I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: was frightened when I saw the pilot walking onto the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: plane or walking off and coming back. And he was
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: four foot nine, very small people, the Japanese. And he
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: brought with him a couple of phone books under his
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: arms to sit.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: On because he was too small. He couldn't see.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Kono is right there, dude. Sorry, buddy, I got you.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, so another reason for those that hate the flock
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: safety cameras to hate them. A Kentucky police officer was
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: arrested after authorities said he used the flock safety license
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: plate reader camera system to track his ex-girlfriend over 2,000 times.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He's got some issues.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. Police Department Officer Asad Zaheer alleged activity
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was actually, though, before you hate them, flagged by the
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: flock security AI.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, and I have a question.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So you've got civil libertarians, like many of other advocacy groups,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: both the police department, in this case, as well as
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: the government, using a single incident. Therefore, it proves that
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: this system is horrible. You got one guy who took
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: advantage of it. Now, there may be more. But the
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: story in and of itself is I think it's an
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: outlier story. The vast majority of cops would not do this.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: And this cop, I think he would have found a
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: way to stalk her.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: The reality is cops have a lot of information that
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: they could.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Of course. Okay, we have time for
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a couple more stories.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, rattlesnakes not only killing people this year. There have
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: been several people killed by rattlesnake bites this year in
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Southern California. This time it was a black jaguar named
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Samba that was at a wildlife sanctuary called Project Survival's
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Cat Haven in Dunlap.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: That's in Central California.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: It was bit on the nose and on the leg.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: They gave it anti-venom. They needed another dose. They said
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: that they thought it was recovering, but then she took
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: a turn and ended up dying.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: That's a shame.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Black jaguars are beautiful.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: They are beautiful. And it was born in captivity, very friendly.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, it's a tough one. Another rattlesnake story, Neil.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: This one is so weird. Totally unexpected. You have a
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: rattlesnake slithering across a SoCal beach. In Newport Beach, our
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: very own Orange County here, a stand-up comedian and TV host,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Nikki Paris, apparently, took a video at Crystal Cove there,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the state beach. Gorgeous area, by the way. And as
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a reminder for people to be mindful of their surroundings.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: But imagine, you know, you're not hiking with your boots
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: on and everything. You're in your bathing suit on a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: beach on a towel. Yeah. She said that the snake
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: looked like a.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Rattlesnake.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the rattlesnake looked like it was coming out
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: from the water.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, water moccasins come out from the water. Check your toilets, man. Yeah,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: no kidding.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Family matters.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Jeannie Buss taking her siblings to court again. A petition's
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: been filed in L.A. Superior Court to block her five
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: siblings from trying to sell the family's remaining 17.82% interest
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: in the NBA's Lakers. The Buss family's owned the team
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: since 1979. Jeannie's court order or court filing contends that
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: her siblings need to abide by a court order from
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: 2017 that that mandated the family's co-trustees take all actions
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: reasonably available to ensure that Jeannie is appointed and remains
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: as the NBA controlling owner of the Lakers, basically for life.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think how many of us care, but
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: it's in, you know, because it's their team, et cetera.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: What I find interesting is when did Jerry Buss buy
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: the team?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: You remember the- 79.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, he paid $ 67 million.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: It just sold for $ 12. 5 billion.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That is not a bad investment, to say the least. Okay, guys,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: we're done. You've been listening to The Bill Handel Show.
• 29:16
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• 29:18
  Speaker 3: To 9 a.m., and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.