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FSU's Offensive Struggles Exposed | What Went Wrong Against New Mexico State · FSU Football: Doak Talk

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  Speaker 1: Game now let's kind of dig a little bit deeper
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  Speaker 1: and jump on the offensive side i'm gonna speak specifically
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive side of what i saw in my
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  Speaker 1: thoughts from what we saw in the offense and again
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  Speaker 1: the calling portion of the show If you have anything
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  Speaker 1: you want to discuss, you know, get your takes off,
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So from the offensive standpoint, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about overall team play. From what I saw,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go into some individual performances. We had 419
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  Speaker 1: total yards, 217 on the ground, which I really liked.
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  Speaker 1: 202 yards passing offense. For the most part, I really
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  Speaker 1: couldn't get out of their own way. Didn't have a
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  Speaker 1: defense that gave them the ball back at the high
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  Speaker 1: clip as well either.
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  Speaker 2: Drive stalled by dumb mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: I do like that Mike never really panicked from a
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  Speaker 1: play calling standpoint and started throwing the kitchen sink at
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  Speaker 1: New Mexico State. Play calling was pretty generic. Nothing was
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  Speaker 1: really creative. It was more so just beat the guy
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  Speaker 1: in front of you and that's where we lacked at.
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  Speaker 1: We really weren't beating the guys in front of us.
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  Speaker 1: Execution was lacking tremendously. Just wasn't clean football overall. From
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback standpoint, I thought Ashton had an okay day.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, nothing too great, nothing too low. He was
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  Speaker 1: 17 for 27, 202 yards, one interception, one passing, touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: and he had 30 yards rushing and a touchdown as well.
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  Speaker 1: I would have liked him to run a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more in certain situations, but we'll get to that pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: On that pick that he threw, it was a rollout
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  Speaker 1: play to the left the defense was flowing heavily that
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  Speaker 1: way and it was getting real late in the play
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  Speaker 1: right so when it gets real late within the play
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  Speaker 1: you're giving the time for the defense to catch up
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  Speaker 1: and you know running full speed to get that momentum
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  Speaker 1: going to get you back into the play he threw
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  Speaker 1: across his body against the momentum and again it was
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  Speaker 1: an interception me personally I would like him to use
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  Speaker 1: his legs there and get positive yards I think it
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  Speaker 1: was like second down I don't quote me up if
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong I think it was like second down if
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken didn't need to make a break play.
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  Speaker 1: And that goes back to my point previously in talking
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  Speaker 1: about Ashton. We don't need you to be Superman out there, right?
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  Speaker 1: Take what the defense gives you. Don't be, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to be the world leader. In that situation, just,
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  Speaker 1: in that situation, just throw, so I just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: use your legs and pick up some positive yards and
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  Speaker 1: go to the next play. Offensive line did not do
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  Speaker 1: a great job protecting him. I know on paper we
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  Speaker 1: only have one sack, but that was more so Ashton
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  Speaker 1: evading pressure.
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  Speaker 2: He had a few misses downfield.
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  Speaker 1: As well and that was due to pressure in his
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  Speaker 1: face and sometimes just clear out misses. But it was
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  Speaker 1: one place specifically I stood out that was down the
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  Speaker 1: field to Desirio Rouse. He was wide open on the
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  Speaker 1: seam route. It was a walk-in touchdown in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: but he just didn't see him at all. It was
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  Speaker 1: a deep ball to Deuce Robinson that was called for
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  Speaker 1: pass interference. It was a double move by Deuce, he
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  Speaker 1: ended up cooking the DB, but that ball should have
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  Speaker 1: been placed in the corner of the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: Instead, Ashton threw.
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  Speaker 1: It inside, which caused the two of those to collide
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  Speaker 1: with Deuce, trying to locate the ball and get to
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  Speaker 1: that spot, causing a pass interference. So that's a first
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  Speaker 1: down and 15 yards. Yeah, that's cool, but we go
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  Speaker 1: from 15 yards to a 35, 40-yard touchdown play.
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  Speaker 2: We're off the field. His best play, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: was a throw to Boggs.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a touchdown inside the stadium, but again,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't really get all of the angles that you
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  Speaker 1: guys probably saw on TV, but he pump faked. Then
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  Speaker 1: he hit Boggs a stride over the middle, and Boggs
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  Speaker 1: made a nice run after the catch, a little spin move,
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  Speaker 1: and Dove made a diving attempt at the end zone,
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  Speaker 1: but it was called just short. He had a nice
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  Speaker 1: throw to Makai Danzy down the field early in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Real nice seam route.
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  Speaker 1: Do want to see more of Deuce and Danzy in
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  Speaker 1: the pass game. Two little touches in my opinion. Really
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  Speaker 1: didn't like how Danzy was used in certain situations. But
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  Speaker 1: with how the backs played, I get it. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: Deuce specifically, you come back to get fed the ball, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's what you come back for. And of course, to
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  Speaker 1: win games and leave your mark at FSU. But from
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  Speaker 1: a draft standpoint, you want to go off this year.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he should get anywhere between 10 to
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  Speaker 1: 12 to 15 attempts per game, just throwing it to him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: of course, the completions this time, third is a different situation,
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  Speaker 1: but I think 10 to 12 for sure, maybe 15,
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  Speaker 1: depending on the game, maybe more to come in the
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  Speaker 1: goddamn game, but you know, you want to get the
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  Speaker 1: ball to Deuce Robson. He's your best receiver. He's a
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  Speaker 1: matchup nightmare. He's your best player overall on his team.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe if things were, I do think if Mike
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  Speaker 1: would open things up more, And being more specific in
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  Speaker 1: the game plan, we would have gotten Deuce involved more,
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  Speaker 1: you know, matchup, some things like that, move him around,
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  Speaker 1: try to create certain matchup situations if we're in a
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  Speaker 1: certain game to where that was warranted. I think we
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  Speaker 1: would have probably sent him a different output. But again,
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  Speaker 1: I think he had three catches, 50 yards. Makai had
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  Speaker 1: like four catches, 50 yards. I want to see more
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  Speaker 1: of that. But again, those running backs, they look real good.
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  Speaker 1: And I love what I saw from the running backs overall.
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  Speaker 1: Love what we have in promo, Sam Singleton and Wiseman,
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  Speaker 1: three-headed monsters. I know you guys, to speak on Wiseman specifically,
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  Speaker 1: I know you guys pretty much kind of panicked on
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  Speaker 1: him not practicing and that type of deal.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we see the tweets, how we can get
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  Speaker 2: outrageous and.
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  Speaker 1: Get an inch and take a mile, so to speak, and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, felt like he bought a limit on Wiseman.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't that deep, to say the least,
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  Speaker 1: from his injury standpoint. If we're actually in midseason and
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  Speaker 1: he had to play something on those lines, he could
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  Speaker 1: have played. It was more so a precautionary situation. And
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  Speaker 1: you see the output in the game that we saw, right,
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. He looked pretty damn good. Real good twitch.
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  Speaker 1: Really nice vision. Nice wiggle. He brings a different element
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  Speaker 1: to the running back room. He's a dynamic player with
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  Speaker 1: the ball in his hands that can pretty much take
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  Speaker 1: a short game and can turn into a big game.
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  Speaker 2: It may be even a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: So again, first game of the season, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be fine. The longer, the more we get into the season,
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  Speaker 1: that type of deal, we'll probably see more of Trey
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  Speaker 1: as he's starting to get back into playing speed and
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  Speaker 1: that type of shape as a result of missing portions
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  Speaker 1: of camp.
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  Speaker 2: Froma, I mean, what can I say, right? He is
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  Speaker 2: who we thought he was. The kid is elite.
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  Speaker 1: He's Just going to get better and better as time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, more carries and more touches, more experience. Going
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  Speaker 1: to be one of the better running backs in the country,
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  Speaker 1: one of the better running backs in the ACC. Should
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  Speaker 1: have a big year. Love what we saw out of him.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Singleton as well, man. Just keeps getting better and better.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, better and better. Really like what I saw
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  Speaker 1: out of Sam from a running standpoint and as a
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  Speaker 1: pass catcher in the screen game. He's gotten so much better.
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  Speaker 1: Still no wiggle in the open field. Once he gets,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the open field on the second level,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like, it looks kind of confusing to
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit as far as what to do
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  Speaker 1: in the open field. But nonetheless, he hits the hole,
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  Speaker 1: celebrates with vision as well to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Shot to.
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  Speaker 1: Kalen LeBron, you know, he had a wide open hole
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  Speaker 1: and he hit that bit. That's pretty much what Sam
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  Speaker 1: Singleton does. He sees a wide open hole and he
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  Speaker 1: hits it. So I think we have a really good three-header.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a wide-ass open hole and I didn't hit
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  Speaker 2: that bit.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Mark, man. MarkAP32, Super Chat, overall offensive analyst.
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  Speaker 1: O-line is trash. I was saving that for last, man. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, definitely. It did look good from the O-line standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. That was my biggest takeaway as well, too. So,
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  Speaker 1: with that being said, I'll venture into the O-line. I
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  Speaker 1: was not excited with what I saw from the O-line.
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  Speaker 1: The lack of push up front. The lack of pass
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  Speaker 1: protection against New Mexico State was not inspiring for me
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  Speaker 1: moving forward at all.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, let's keep it real.
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  Speaker 1: This is like the second worst defensive line you'll see
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  Speaker 1: this year. That's no disrespect to them. They are solid
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  Speaker 1: within their, you know, what's Google for? G4 now within
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  Speaker 1: their conference. I think they'll be pretty good coming into
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  Speaker 1: this game. If you guys listen to my previous interview
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  Speaker 1: on Dough Talk, leading into the New Mexico State game,
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  Speaker 1: their coaching staff, this is what they were most excited about, right?
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  Speaker 1: The front seven, the defense line and linebackers, they were
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  Speaker 1: pretty excited, they excited, excuse me, with what they had
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  Speaker 1: returning within those guys. But at the same damn time,
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  Speaker 1: we're FSU, right? It's not comparable. Supposed to be a
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  Speaker 1: premier program in the country. There's no way in hell
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  Speaker 1: we should be in a dogfight in the trenches against
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  Speaker 1: a team like New Mexico State. We got SMU next week.
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  Speaker 1: You have Bama, you have Louisville, you have Clemson, you
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  Speaker 1: have Miami, you have Florida. I mean, those teams are
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  Speaker 1: going to have a lot better offensive lines. And 14 specifically,
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  Speaker 1: 14 specifically, the four most important games on the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess you throw out about five teams, you
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  Speaker 2: could say.
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  Speaker 1: No, 14 specifically, the four most important games on the schedule.
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  Speaker 2: And that's Bama, Clemson, Miami, and Florida.
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  Speaker 1: Their defensive lines are in a different class than what,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the SMU, Louisville, and this, that, and third.
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  Speaker 1: And we're not even talking about, you know, in comparison
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  Speaker 1: to who we played yesterday in New Mexico State.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the biggest.
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  Speaker 1: Games on the schedule. You have to win one of
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  Speaker 1: those games, in my opinion. One of those four, you
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  Speaker 1: have to win from a job safety standpoint, but that's
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  Speaker 1: a different conversation. Numbers look okay if you look at
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  Speaker 1: it from a Box score, watch standpoint, ran for over
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  Speaker 1: 200 yards, over five yards per carry, didn't start in
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  Speaker 1: the third. But if you actually saw, you knew why
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  Speaker 1: was that, right? Backs made elite plays. We see a
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  Speaker 1: long run from Cromwell. Trey Wiseman making some nice plays
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  Speaker 1: to get downfield. Sam as well. If you look at
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  Speaker 1: the majority of the runs, most were met with contact
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  Speaker 1: within the first few yards, and that's just not acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: One sack on paper, which is good, right?
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  Speaker 1: But Ashton avoided a lot of sacks by scrambling and
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  Speaker 1: throwing the ball away and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: So Again, if you actually look at the game.
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  Speaker 1: Tape itself, that was the most glaring part of the
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  Speaker 1: offense is the offensive line. And I think just some
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  Speaker 1: stall drives in certain situations. But, yeah, we have to–
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we can get that fixed.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll take it back. I think certain things can
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  Speaker 1: be fixed, especially when you break down the film and
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  Speaker 1: just end third. Your biggest jump is typically from game
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  Speaker 1: one to game two. But from what we saw yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: last night, it was not aspiring football, especially within the
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  Speaker 1: trenches there.
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  Speaker 2: On the offensive side. All right, that's our offense.