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The Supreme Betrayal | Episode 322 · V

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  Speaker 1: Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. Boy, do we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: A supreme betrayal, the United States Supreme Court declaring that
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  Speaker 2: your citizenship means, well, a lot less than it used to.
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  Speaker 2: American citizenship devalued yesterday by a horrendous decision out of
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  Speaker 2: the United States Supreme Court. But is there cause for optimism.
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  Speaker 1: Out of all of this?
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  Speaker 2: It was a 5-4 decision, and some people, including some
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  Speaker 2: of the most powerful people on our side in the country,
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  Speaker 2: are saying that's a good sign. It's a sign that
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  Speaker 2: we still can win this fight, but we've got to
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  Speaker 2: stay in it. I've got a lot of breakdown coming
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  Speaker 2: up on this subject. Also joining us today on the program,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy to say, is John Eastman.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be joining us.
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  Speaker 2: A great conservative attorney, a guy who's been through the ringer,
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  Speaker 2: attacked by the left just for standing up for the
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  Speaker 2: Constitution and the law. And he's been on this case
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  Speaker 2: of birthright citizenship for a long time, including when you
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  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to talk about it. Oh, he's been talking
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  Speaker 2: about it, and he's still talking about it. We'll do
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  Speaker 2: it this morning. John Eastman joins us on the program.
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  Speaker 2: A lot to get to, and we'll do it together.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into the content of the show, before
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  Speaker 2: we get to smacking some of these Supreme Court justices around,
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  Speaker 1: Promo code Vince. Yeah, what a disaster of a court
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  Speaker 1: decision yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Now, there were some good court decisions yesterday, including protecting
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  Speaker 2: women's sports. We love that. I can get into the.
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  Speaker 1: Details on that coming up.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to start with the thing that's got
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  Speaker 2: me and probably you absolutely apoplectic. This idea that American
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  Speaker 2: citizenship can just be handed out like candy to any
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  Speaker 2: foreign national who pours across our border and has a baby.
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  Speaker 2: Any foreign national who decides to fly here explicitly just
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  Speaker 2: to have an unearned American baby and then immediately.
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  Speaker 1: Fly back to mainland China.
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  Speaker 2: A situation where a Chinese national can fly to Guam,
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  Speaker 2: have a baby, and then fly back to China with
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  Speaker 2: an American citizen. What? That's insane. You ask any normal
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  Speaker 2: person on the street, is that the arrangement that we
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  Speaker 2: should have as a country? And the answer to that
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  Speaker 2: is not just no, it's hell no. American citizenship should
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  Speaker 2: mean something. American citizenship should be for the children of Americans.
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  Speaker 2: The founders knew this really clearly, and the drafters of
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  Speaker 2: the 14th Amendment knew this very clearly as well. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: the 14th Amendment, which is what the debate is all about,
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  Speaker 2: need I remind you, was about affording equal protection to
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  Speaker 2: all Americans, and yes, including black Americans, former slaves and
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  Speaker 2: their children, in the picture of what it means to
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  Speaker 2: be an American. The 13th Amendment, the 14th Amendment, the
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  Speaker 2: 15th Amendment were all designed to make sure that black
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  Speaker 2: Americans were in no way excluded from this country, that
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  Speaker 2: they were included. And the protections afforded by those amendments
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  Speaker 2: extend to every American.
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  Speaker 1: That's the point.
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  Speaker 2: And yet the left has manipulated this, mutilated this, distorted
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  Speaker 2: this so far beyond recognition that they're just handing out
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  Speaker 2: American citizenship like anybody can grab it if they can
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  Speaker 2: make it across the finish line. Like, it's a big
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  Speaker 2: game of capture the flag. And there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people who are capturing that flag.
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  Speaker 3: A lot.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to understand the numbers here.
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  Speaker 2: Because sometimes, you know, you just do the math on
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  Speaker 2: this and you start to realize, like, holy crap, what
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  Speaker 2: is going on in our country? So let me start
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  Speaker 2: with the horrific news for native-born Americans. We have population decline.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the birth rate is not even keeping up
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  Speaker 2: with keeping the population at a stable number for native-born Americans.
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  Speaker 2: That's something that we should be addressing head-on here in
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  Speaker 2: the United States. That's a crisis that we have to
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  Speaker 2: deal with. We are, each year, aborting a million of
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  Speaker 2: our own people. A million American babies every year are
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  Speaker 2: dying in our country as the left pushes that genocide
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  Speaker 2: on our people. In fact, black Americans, the aforementioned group
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  Speaker 2: black Americans, are in particular targeted by the abortion industry
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  Speaker 2: in America. 40% of the black population is aborted every year,
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  Speaker 2: murdered every single year in our country. There's no civil
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  Speaker 2: rights marches for that. There's no huge protests in American
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  Speaker 2: news media about this. Hollywood is not filming movies about
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  Speaker 2: this genocide.
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  Speaker 1: It's happening in many cases very quietly, but it's horrific.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: And then in terms of who's coming into the country,
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  Speaker 2: the population is still going up. So how is that possible?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, it's immigration. It's both legal and
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigration.
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  Speaker 2: Start with legal. Each year, one million legal immigrants have
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  Speaker 2: been welcomed into the country on average. One million legal.
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  Speaker 2: So we abort a million Americans and we import a
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  Speaker 2: million legal immigrants into the United States each year. How
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  Speaker 2: dystopian does that sound? Well, it's real. It's happening every
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  Speaker 2: single year. Under the Biden administration, we brought in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of illegal aliens too.
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  Speaker 1: Remember that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Estimates are all over the place because it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: pin down how many illegal aliens we actually let in
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  Speaker 2: in that horrific time period and prior to that. But
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  Speaker 2: during the Biden administration, there are projections that anywhere between
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  Speaker 2: 12 and 20 million illegal aliens came into the country
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  Speaker 2: during just that four-year window. So take the low-end estimate.
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  Speaker 2: Let's pretend for a moment it's 12 million is the
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  Speaker 2: real number. Well, if that's the case, what's happening is
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  Speaker 2: each year we brought in 3 million illegal aliens on average,
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  Speaker 2: 3 million. So you get 3 million illegals, 1 million legal,
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  Speaker 2: and then how many babies are all of those combined migrants,
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  Speaker 2: legal or illegal, having each year? Well, the numbers there
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  Speaker 2: are typically... Historically, around 300,000 a year.
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  Speaker 5: 300,000 babies.
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  Speaker 2: Those 300,000 are instantly granted American citizenship whether or not
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  Speaker 2: their parents broke the law.
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  Speaker 4: 300,000.
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  Speaker 1: 10% of those, around 30,000, are birth tourists.
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  Speaker 2: People who just fly into the country to have an
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  Speaker 2: American baby and then immediately flee and then are forever
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  Speaker 2: tethered to the United States, drawing on American taxpayer resources
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  Speaker 2: and able to get citizenship by way of something called
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  Speaker 2: chain migration for the rest of the family, thanks to
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  Speaker 2: that one child now having American citizenship, unearned. So you
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  Speaker 2: do the math on this and you're looking at it
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  Speaker 2: and you're going, wow, wait a second. So we're killing
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  Speaker 2: a million people a year in the United States. And
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  Speaker 2: then we're importing 4.3 million foreign nationals every year. Do
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  Speaker 2: you see what the problem is here? Do you see
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  Speaker 2: what the problem is? When you start putting the math
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  Speaker 2: to this, you realize not only is this a problem,
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  Speaker 2: it's a crisis of epic proportions. Manufactured by definitely the
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  Speaker 2: left and an establishment in Washington that for far too
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  Speaker 2: long has been betraying the American people. And so yesterday's
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision is one of the supreme indignities to
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  Speaker 2: be stacked.
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  Speaker 1: On top of this country.
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  Speaker 2: Because the court led by Chief Justice John Roberts made
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  Speaker 2: a decision yesterday that went beyond merely maintaining the status quo.
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  Speaker 1: This has already been a massive problem. It's been going
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  Speaker 1: on for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But instead of just saying, hey, you know, if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna fix this problem, Congress can fix it. They went
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  Speaker 2: a step further Now, I'm going to let the lawyers,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll talk to John Eastman about this coming up too,
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  Speaker 2: handle what exactly the path forward can be and how
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  Speaker 2: we can handle this legally. We've got a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things coming out of Congress right now.
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  Speaker 1: About this subject.
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  Speaker 2: But yesterday, it's hard to miss the fact that the
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  Speaker 2: majority opinion in the case found that the 14th Amendment
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  Speaker 2: to the Constitution does confer, they said affirmatively, American citizenship
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  Speaker 2: on illegal aliens. That's insane.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you say that?
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  Speaker 2: At least in the case of Brett Kavanaugh's sort of dissenting,
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  Speaker 2: sort of concurring opinion on the subject yesterday. Kavanaugh came
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  Speaker 2: out and said, hey, the president's executive order was wrong
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  Speaker 2: because we have statutes that say it's wrong, but this
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  Speaker 2: could be addressed by Congress. That's not what the majority
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  Speaker 2: opinion said. But Kavanaugh is trying to basically open a
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  Speaker 2: door for us to have an option as we go
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  Speaker 2: forward here. But this was a complete betrayal. So not
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  Speaker 2: only was it a terrible decision, it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: the worst case scenario decision yesterday. And so in that way,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to dishearten you. I'm just trying to
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  Speaker 2: tell you this is exactly what happened. And it's horrific.
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  Speaker 1: It's horrific.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it was a 5-4 decision. Who was in the dissent?
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  Speaker 2: Who led the dissent? Well, the dissent was led by
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  Speaker 2: our greatest justice, Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas is clearly furious
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  Speaker 2: about this. He thinks that the Supreme Court will come
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  Speaker 2: to rue the day that they made this decision yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: And he wrote extensively about this, which is wonderful. And
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  Speaker 2: he's such a clear and thoughtful writer. We love Clarence Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: But he unloaded yesterday. He went absolutely scorched earth on
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  Speaker 2: all of this. And he said that the 14th Amendment
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  Speaker 2: was enacted specifically for freed slaves. I want people to
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  Speaker 2: dwell on this point because it really is the central
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  Speaker 2: point of the 14th Amendment. Here I am quoting directly
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  Speaker 2: from Clarence Thomas. This is in the dissent yesterday. The
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  Speaker 2: 14th Amendment was enacted in the wake of the Civil
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  Speaker 2: War with the one pervading purpose of securing equal citizenship
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  Speaker 2: for the freed slaves. It was enacted, as Justice Harlan wrote,
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  Speaker 2: to secure to a race recently emancipated the civil rights
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  Speaker 2: that other citizens enjoyed. The court has time and again
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  Speaker 2: denied Americans this promise. Shortly after the amendment was ratified,
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  Speaker 2: this court deprived black citizens of the right to peaceably
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  Speaker 2: assemble and to keep and bear arms. A little later
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  Speaker 2: in Plessy, Plessy versus Ferguson, the court upheld the subjugation
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  Speaker 2: of black citizens in the form of state-coerced racial segregation.
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  Speaker 2: When it had an opportunity to correct that profound error,
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  Speaker 2: it did so narrowly in Brown versus Board of Education.
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  Speaker 2: It then used that very decision to justify busing American
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  Speaker 2: children to different schools based on their race. And until recently,
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  Speaker 2: this court continued to selectively enforce our colorblind constitution, including
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  Speaker 2: by allowing state-coerced racial discrimination in public education and compelling
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  Speaker 2: states to draw political districts on the basis of race.
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  Speaker 1: It's a disaster, in other words.
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  Speaker 2: This keeps happening. Meanwhile, the court has repurposed the 14th
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  Speaker 2: Amendment to protect its own set of preferred rights. that
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  Speaker 2: the Reconstruction Congress never contemplated and that cannot find support
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  Speaker 2: in its text. Today, the court does so again by
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  Speaker 2: recognizing a constitutional right to citizenship for the children of
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  Speaker 2: all foreign birth tourists and illegal aliens. I am not
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  Speaker 2: sure that today's opinion will stand the test of time.
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  Speaker 2: The citizenship clause added greatly to the dignity and glory
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  Speaker 2: of American citizenship. Today's opinion devalues that citizenship. I respectfully dissent. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Justice Thomas can respectfully dissent. The rest of us furiously dissent.
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  Speaker 1: Furiously.
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  Speaker 2: And I dwell on the role that.
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  Speaker 1: The 14th Amendment plays because that is, of course, the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: But also because... Have you noticed that the left uses
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  Speaker 2: race as a cudgel, but they lie to you relentlessly
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  Speaker 2: about race?
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  Speaker 1: They lie like crazy.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, you just heard America's greatest justice, a black justice,
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  Speaker 2: declare that it was freed black Americans that the 14th
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  Speaker 2: Amendment was explicitly written to protect. And we all benefit
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  Speaker 2: from the protections of the 14th Amendment. But it was
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  Speaker 2: written specifically to make sure that they have American citizenship
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  Speaker 2: and that their descendants have American citizenship. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: noticed that what the left has done is they've taken
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  Speaker 2: something that was designed to protect black Americans and they're
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  Speaker 2: using it to protect the invasion of our country. If
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  Speaker 2: you are a black American within the sound of my voice,
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  Speaker 2: if you know a black American who should hear about this,
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  Speaker 2: the reality is black Americans everywhere, if they're not already
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  Speaker 2: awake to this, need to wake up to this. The
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  Speaker 2: left is screwing you over and they're claiming that they're
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  Speaker 2: doing it for you. Watch over on Ms. Now yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: one of the reactions came from a whack job. I
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  Speaker 2: think his name is Eddie Glaude. He's a Princeton professor
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  Speaker 2: for some reason. And he said that the point of
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's decision was to make America a white republic, meaning
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  Speaker 2: the point of the dissent, not the majority opinion. He
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: said the point of the dissent. So think through what
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: you're about to hear. You've got a black American justice
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  Speaker 2: saying that the 14th Amendment was written to protect black
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  Speaker 2: Americans and a demented Ms. Now guest claims that this
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  Speaker 2: is about upholding white supremacy.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell are you even talking about? Cut one,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: watch this.
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  Speaker 6: I am breathing a sigh of relief, but I want
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  Speaker 6: us to kind of widen the aperture a bit to
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  Speaker 6: understand the origins, the provenance of this challenge. It's part
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  Speaker 6: of this ongoing effort, I think, to address the demographic
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  Speaker 6: shifts in the country. I think it's part of this
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  Speaker 6: longstanding effort since the 14th Amendment was ratified to undermine it.
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  Speaker 6: We need to understand that this particular birthright citizenship clause
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  Speaker 6: of the 14th Amendment is addressing the 1857 Dred Scott case.
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  Speaker 4: Charles alluded to this earlier.
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  Speaker 6: So we need to understand the ways in which these
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  Speaker 6: arguments are in some ways aligning with a particular vision
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  Speaker 6: of the country that we need to make explicit.
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  Speaker 5: That is to say that there are folks who.
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  Speaker 6: Are doubling down on the idea that this country must
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  Speaker 6: be a white republic. And they're doing it by any
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  Speaker 6: means necessary. They're trying to achieve that end by any
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  Speaker 6: means necessary. But, you know, through a narrow decision, the
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  Speaker 6: Constitution is- This is idiocy.
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  Speaker 2: So Clarence Thomas says it was written to protect black Americans.
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  Speaker 2: And that guy walks away saying Clarence Thomas is trying
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  Speaker 2: to uphold white supremacy.
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  Speaker 1: Screw you, Eddie Glab.
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  Speaker 2: You're with the party of the KKK. You're with the
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  Speaker 2: party of standing in schoolhouse doors. blocking black Americans from
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  Speaker 2: getting in. You're with the party of cross burnings. The
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Southern Poverty Law Center is paying for freaking cross burnings.
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  Speaker 2: You're with the party that aborts 40% of the black
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  Speaker 2: community every single year in the United States. Spare us
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  Speaker 2: the lectures, you jackass. Meanwhile, decent Americans are horrified by
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  Speaker 2: what happened yesterday because we believe in an America that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: we would like to give to our American children.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we believe in. And so what we need
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  Speaker 1: is a path forward. What do we do from here?
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  Speaker 1: Because the last thing we want to.
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  Speaker 2: Be is so disheartened and so dissuaded that we give up,
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  Speaker 2: we can't tap out. So what are the options? Well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that. And coming up, John
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  Speaker 2: Eastman's going to join us. We'll walk through some of
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  Speaker 2: his reaction to all of this. We'll get his expert
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  Speaker 2: legal reaction on the subject. But this fight has reached
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  Speaker 2: a new phase. And what we need to do now
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  Speaker 2: is stay in it. More ahead on this edition of Vince.
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  Speaker 2: So what do we do here? How do we react
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: to all of this? Well, first and foremost, I'll give
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you a couple of elements. One, in the majority was
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  Speaker 2: Katonji Brown Jackson, of course, because she's a moron. And
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I told you yesterday that she'd be in the majority
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: on this decision. Oh, yeah, citizenship should be given to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: illegal aliens. I'm not going to put it up on screen,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: but perhaps you've seen by now that apparently in her
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: opinion— she used the phrase, quote, understood the assignment to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: describe the people who wrote the 14th Amendment, quote, understood
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the assignment. Understood the assignment is like a whack job
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: TikTok phrase. It's like a modern, it's just.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Slang. What are you doing?
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: This woman, by the way, in the in the decision
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: that protected girls' sports yesterday, was having trouble distinguishing between
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: what a boy and a girl is. So it turns
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: out that that question about, you know, if she knows
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: what a woman is, it was very relevant because she
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: has no idea.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: She's an idiot.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So she's using TikTok slang in Supreme Court opinions, just
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: to give you a clear understanding of who.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: We're up against.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: President Trump reacted yesterday. He said this was a bad decision.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: This is a very bad decision for the country. He's
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: right about that. He said the Supreme Court upheld birthright citizenship,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: meaning for illegal aliens, which is too bad for our country,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but we can easily make it up in Congress through
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: legislation with the support of the president that has now
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: been determined during this process. No long and unwieldy constitutional
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: amendment is necessary, said the president. Congress should start today
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to work on ending expensive and unfair to our country
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. They will have my complete and total support.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: President Donald J.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Trump.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The president also went on to congratulate President Xi Jinping
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: on the victory.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: What an unbelievable post.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I would like to congratulate President Xi and the great
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: country of China on their massive birthright citizenship win. President
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Donald J.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Trump.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: There's never going to be another guy like this guy. Never,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: never going to be another guy like him. You know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago that in Washington, D.C., it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was conventional wisdom that illegal aliens shouldn't have free American
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: citizen children. In fact, in 1993, Harry Reid introduced, you
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: heard me right, Senator Harry Reid at the time, the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: late Harry Reid, introduced a bill to eliminate birthright citizenship
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: for any child of an illegal alien. He said, what
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: kind of country would do that? That's insane. Cut to,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: watch this.
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: Making it easy to be an illegal alien isn't enough.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: How about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant?
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: No saint country would do that, right? Guess again. If
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: you break our laws by entering this country without permission
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: and give birth to a child, we reward that child
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: with US citizenship and guarantee a full access to all
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: public and social services this society provides. And that's a
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: lot of services. Is it any wonder that two-thirds of
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: the babies born at taxpayer expense at country, county-run hospitals
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: That bill got defeated.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It turns out Joe Biden was one of the reasons
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: it never went forward. Thanks, Joe Biden, one of the
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: great betrayers of our lifetime, destroying America. So that bill, well,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it's been lying in dormancy for a very long time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: We just found out that Ohio Senator Republican Bernie Moreno
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is now going to reintroduce Harry Reid's legislation in the Senate.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It's coming back.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: He's not alone.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Senator Eric Schmidt is also presenting legislation to try and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: stop all of this. I talked to Senator Rick Scott
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of Florida yesterday. He joined me on the big national
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: radio show. He said he too is introducing legislation now
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to put an end to all of this. Senator Ashley
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Moody is a part of an effort to do that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: as well. Senator Rand Paul is a part of an effort.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: To do that as well.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So there's a groundswell already in the United States Senate
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to do something about this. I'm tempted to say that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: this should be a part of the Save America Act.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Don't you think?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: How better to save America? than to save what it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: means to be an American citizen. Perhaps we can add
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: more pressure to fix our elections and fix all of
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: this mess if we combine it all together.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Just a thought, just a thought.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: The United States Justice Department has announced that they're gonna
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: prioritize a crackdown on birth tourism. They put out a
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: statement yesterday, an alert to all of their workers within
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the Justice Department, all of their employees, that it is
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: now priority to make this the top thing that they
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: deal with, to stop anchor babies and birth tourism in
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the United States. Birth tourism schemes exploit our immigration laws
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: and often violate our criminal laws, said the DOJ. Actors
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: seeking to exploit loopholes to obtain automatic citizenship for their
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: children pose a national security threat and will be brought
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: to justice. Here's Tom Homan yesterday saying that the Trump
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: administration is now quadrupling down on stopping this practice.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Watch.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: I saw the decision, which I don't agree with.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: It's okay now.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: We step up enforcement. We step up more enforcement. Even
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: though we're doing record amounts of enforcement now, we need
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: to do more. And not only that, we need to
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: really buckle down on birth tourism. We have many investigations
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: on birth tourism, but we need to triple, quadruple down
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: on that. And look, I agree with Judge Alito. First
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: of all, I've been doing this since 1984. That's when
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: I started in Border Patrol. This birthright citizenship has always
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: been a major driver for illegal immigration. During the Biden administration,
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: the Yuma Hospital, the El Paso Hospital, 100% maternity beds
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: were illegal aliens.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: That's not a coincidence.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: That's not by accident. But it's always been a driver
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: for illegal immigration. But more importantly, it's a national security issue.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Because the birth tours investigation, I'm aware of. Nationals from
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: China and Russia coming here by the thousands, having a
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: baby and leaving. Now, so we have U.S. citizens by
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: the thousands and discontinued by the millions living in countries
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: that I think are adversaries to us that can come
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: here and have an impact on how this country is run.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So it's a.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: National security issue, a huge proportion that we need to address.
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: And I hope Congress does it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: It's a huge national security issue. It's huge. I just
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: went over the numbers with you.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: We've got 4.3 million foreign nationals pouring into the country
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: every year, and we're aborting a million of our own babies?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: That's not gonna work. That's how you destroy a country.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: That's how you replace a country. That's kind of the
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: left's whole scheme. They haven't really been hiding that. Gotta
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: put a stop to that. There's also Stephen Miller. You
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: ready for some Stephen Miller? Should we do some Stephen Miller?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I think we should.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: You ready?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Stephen Miller yesterday going off on birthright citizenship, this ridiculous ruling.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Cut six, take a look.
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: This is absolutely a deep knife wound in the heart
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: of the American Republic. Look, Jesse, I can step tomorrow
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: onto the deck of a 747. It does not mean
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: that I am the pilot of that plane and I'm qualified.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: To fly it.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Just physically being on U.S. soil does not make you.
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: A citizen or qualified to carry on or capable of
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: executing the inheritance of this country. We have people from
• 28:44
  Speaker 9: all over the world, from third world nations, nations that
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: on their own would have never invented the wheel, let
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: alone modern technology, let alone medicine, let alone air travel.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: And they can just come into the country have a
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: baby at a hospital, paid for by you and me,
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: and then that baby's automatically a citizen, that baby can
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: sit on a jury when he turns 18 and sit
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: in judgment of you and sit in judgment of me
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: and sit in judgment of our loved ones, can decide
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: who our mayors are, our governors are, our presidents are.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Citizenship means nothing if it is open to everyone. The
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: idea that you can have a cruise ship filled with
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: foreigners and they just dock at a port for an
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: hour and someone has a baby, Jesse, the baby's an
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: American citizen.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: They can vote in every election for the rest of
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: their lives.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: They can be living in a foreign country and cashing
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: welfare checks from American citizens.
• 29:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Sounds crazy because it is.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: All right, coming up, we'll talk to John Eastman about
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: all of this.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: We'll get his expert legal opinion on it.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He's one of the leading thinkers on this subject, and
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: he very much is on the side of protecting American
• 29:54
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  Speaker 2: And this is actually one of the reasons I was
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  Speaker 2: so disappointed to see the decision yesterday, because this should
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  Speaker 2: be a time of celebration. But it's also now a
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  Speaker 2: time of concern, because the court yesterday, in Clarence Thomas's view,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: really devalued what it means to be a citizen of
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  Speaker 2: the United States. What's your reaction to the court's decision yesterday?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I will say this.
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  Speaker 3: John Roberts, the Chief Justice, on behalf of five members
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: of the court, and I want to emphasize that, five
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: members of the court, not six, as so many reporting today,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: held that the 14th Amendment guaranteed automatic citizenship for virtually
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: anybody born on our soil. And it's a workmanlike opinion.
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  Speaker 3: He goes back and traces the whole history of the
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  Speaker 3: English rule of youth solely, the law of the soil.
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  Speaker 3: And where he makes his fundamental mistake is in saying
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  Speaker 3: that we, the United States, when we became a nation,
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  Speaker 3: adopted that old English.
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  Speaker 4: Common law rule.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it's just fundamentally wrong. The Declaration of Independence, which
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  Speaker 3: we celebrate this week with 250 years, explicitly repudiated.
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  Speaker 4: The English rule of soil, of use solely. The English
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  Speaker 4: rule was an old feudal thing.
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  Speaker 3: If you were born on the king's soil, you were
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  Speaker 3: forever the king's subject and could never renounce that because
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: you owed a permanent allegiance to your liege lord, the king.
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  Speaker 3: That's not what the basis of our government is. It's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: based on the consent of the governed. The people are sovereign,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: not some king. And if there was any question about
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: that at all, the final paragraph of the Declaration of
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Independence says, therefore, these united colonies are and ought to
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: be free and independent states.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: And we hereby renounce all allegiance to the king.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. That is one of the most eloquent repudiations of
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the old English birth citizenship, birth subjectship rule we've ever seen.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: So we are citizens. they were subjects. That's the difference.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: So in other words, just to use, if we're going
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: to use his contorted logic here, that anybody who's born
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: here becomes a king of our nation. And that's insane
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that no one would, no one would accept that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And the notion that we did that in, in that
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: we did that in 1868 with the adoption of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: 14th Amendment, when every single person responsible for drafting and
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: writing and marshaling that amendment through the Congress said, no,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: when we said all persons born here and subject to
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: the jurisdiction thereof, we meant complete jurisdiction, not somebody temporarily
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: passing through, and certainly not somebody that was here illegally
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: without our consent in the first place. Now, they didn't
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: discuss it in the terms of illegal immigration because there
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: weren't restrictions on immigration in 1868. But they did talk
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: about it in the terms of Native Americans who owed
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: allegiance to their tribe rather than the United States. And
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: they talked about it in terms of what they called
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: temporary sojourners, people just visiting or passing through.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: They owed a temporary.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Allegiance to the country while they were here. They had
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: to follow our laws, but they didn't owe the more
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: complete allegiance that that constitutional amendment mentioned.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Let me dwell on that for a moment because you're right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And they contemplated temporary sojourners, people who were temporarily in
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the country. If you come into our country in contravention
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of our laws illegally, you come into our country illegally
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and The recourse for that is we're supposed to deport you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: By definition, you are here on a temporary basis, albeit illegally.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You're not even supposed to be here. So how is
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: it that you can be afforded U.S. citizenship for your
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: child if temporary sojourners are not supposed to be given
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: American citizenship under that debate?
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Well, you're absolutely right. They're not.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: And The logic of the argument against temporary sojourners applies
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: with even more force to those who are illegally here
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: from the first place. Here's the key difference. The English
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: had a rule of the soil. A lot of the
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: rest of Europe had what was called eus sanguinis, the
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: rule of the blood. We don't adopt either of those
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: rules for passing citizenship.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: We adopt a rule of consent of the governed.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: It's right there in the Declaration of Independence. That's the
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: precise language. And consent has to be two-way. Look, Congress
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: tomorrow could offer citizenship to everybody in Mexico City. But
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: they can't mandate that everybody in Mexico City be citizens.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It's an offer.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: The Mexico City folks would have to accept it. The
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: same works the other direction. If everybody in Mexico City says,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I want to be a U.S. citizen, we can say, fine,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: thank you for suggesting we do that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: We disagree.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: We're not going to extend that. It's got to be
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: mutual consent. That's what consent to the governed means. And
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: people who are here illegally, by definition, are here without
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: our consent.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Are you encouraged that more people are arriving at your
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: very sane position on this subject? Because I remember, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: think I need to remind people of this. I know
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you know the history.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: You lived it.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: But a couple of years back, you wrote a piece
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris, in your view, being ineligible to be
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: president of the United States for Newsweek.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: You wrote a piece. Newsweek published it.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: And the reason you said, I'll let you make your
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: own explanation for this, but she's a child of an
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Indian and a Jamaican. And your view was that she's
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: not eligible to be president. And it led to one
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: of the biggest scandals, at least of the moment. Everyone
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: went crazy. Newsweek apologized for ever running the piece. You
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: were persona non grata. That guy is some crazy person.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we ever did that. And now there's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: all sorts of real and thankfully very rational debate on
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: this subject that I have never seen, not at this level.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And I feel like you have been really important to that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Tell me about that.
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: So the issue with Kamala Harris was her mother was
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: here on a student visa and she had overstayed that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: visa because it expired 30 days after she got her Ph.D.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: That was in January of the year Kamala was born
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the following October.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: So her mother was actually here illegally by that point.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And the father was also on a student visa, but
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: had some diplomatic connections. So he may have actually had
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: a diplomatic immunity. I've not gotten to the bottom of that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: But either way, she's outside the coverage of the automatic
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Now, you're right. I mean, most scholars.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Agreed with me until President Trump walked down the escalator
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: back in 2015 that this was an unsettled question of
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: constitutional law. When Trump started taking my position, everybody said, no,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: this has been settled for 100 years, when in fact,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: acted hadn't. And they all predicted that I would lose
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: 9-0 at the Supreme Court. And I remind them, the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: decision on the constitutional question that I've been pushing for
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: was 5-4. That's a very close call. It means that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: my argument was much more credible, even with this court,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: than all of the so-called pundits and commentators and most
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: legal scholars had predicted.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: And you're right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: We've now engaged in a very serious.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: And thoughtful debate about this.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And people are exploring the original source materials in a
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: way that they had never done before and coming to
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the same conclusion that I came to 25 years ago.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. Okay, so where do we go from here?
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Brett Kavanaugh wrote yesterday that he thinks this is something
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that Congress should address. And there's some energy already to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: introduce legislation, a number of senators saying this yesterday, including
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: resuscitating a bill from Harry Reid in 1993, declaring that U.S.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Citizenship should be for the children of U.S. citizens. Tell me,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: what do we do from here in your view?
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Well, so the technical legal position is that five justices
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: said that the Constitution mandates birthright citizenship for everybody born
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: on the soil. Congress cannot change that ruling by a statute.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Brett Kavanaugh's position was not accepted by anybody else. Now,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of straightforward conventional view of these things.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: But I like to take a different view, and that
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: is we've got three separate branches of government, all three
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: take an oath to support and defend the Constitution of
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: the United States, that Congress has a role here, if
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: nothing else, pushing back against the Supreme Court. Abraham Lincoln
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: famously said in his first inaugural address, criticizing the Dred Scott,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: the notorious Dred Scott decision, that that decision is final
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: for the parties to the case. But if we're going
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: to treat it as final for deciding this contested policy
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: issue forevermore, we will have ceased to that extent being
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: a self-governing people.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: And I think.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Congress should take up Brett Kavanaugh's invitation and start passing
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: some laws. Now, in the immediate aftermath of this, a
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: court will say, we've already ruled your laws are unconstitutional.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: but it will force a public debate about this issue,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: force public hearings about it so more people understand what's
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: going on. And quite frankly, in this 250th anniversary year
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: of the Declaration of Independence, I think the debate about
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: what the Declaration of Independence actually means would be a
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: very healthy thing for our body politic.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Well, and ultimately, if Congress does pass a law on
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: this subject and it is contested in the courts, it
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: could get right back to the Supreme Court and we
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: could have this precedent kind of rapidly overturned in the
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: grand scheme of things.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: Well, it could.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: And I remind people, the Dred Scott decision, the Supreme
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Court said Blacks could never be citizens, and Congress had
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: no legal authority to prohibit slavery in the territories. In 1862,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Congress passed a law prohibiting slavery in the territories, directly
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: contrary to the Dred Scott decision. Abraham Lincoln signed that
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: law into effect. So this is the kind of thing that,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: in my view, Congress ought to be doing to challenge
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: to challenge the court's thinking on this decision.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be good.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Because our two options here, as they exist right now,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: outside of revolution, the two options that exist at the
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: moment are the Supreme Court overturns this ridiculous precedent, or
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: we amend the Constitution. And that is a mountain that
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: there's no evidence we can actually climb right now.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about that, but I don't want to
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: let Congress off the hook. I want them to force
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: them to have to confront this and start exercising some
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: of their own constitutional powers. I will say this, though.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You'd never get it out of D.C. You wouldn't get
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: the supermajority requirement to propose it. But a convention of
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: states that propose a constitutional amendment, you need 34 states
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: to call that and 38 states to ratify.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Such an amendment.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And I quite frankly, I think we've probably got 38
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: states that would go along with that. So it's not
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: you would never get it started out of Washington. So
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you'd have to go the convention of states route. But
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I think I think there would be a possibility. But
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I want to I want Congress to push back in
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the meantime and and see how far the American people
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: can weigh in on this debate through their elected representatives.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's a huge thing. If we can keep
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the debate going, then we can actually get we can
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: mount the energy simultaneously for the Convention of States. So
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that'll be that'll be a key piece of this. John Eastman,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: thank you. You're a great patriot. And I appreciate you
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: staying in the fight, despite all the arrows that have
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: constantly come your way throughout all of it, brother.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Let me encourage your audience to go to American Mind, theamericanmind.org,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: and look at my article on the importance of the
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Declaration of Independence that Chief Justice Roberts missed.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: It's up there on the front page of American Mind
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you very much. I appreciate you.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Have a very happy Independence Day. Thank you, sir.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Thank you. You too. Take care.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: That's John Eastman with a great recitation of exactly what
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: we saw yesterday. And I love how he was giving
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: us a really clear breakdown of the fact that, you know,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: if you're looking back at the way the English law worked,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: it was because they were all subjects to the king.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: The king was the one sovereign. Here in the United States,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: American citizens are the sovereigns. And we don't just hand
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: it out to any rando who wants to become a
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: king of our country. Common sense stuff. And it was
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: not John Roberts who was in any way performing with
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: common sense yesterday, really.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Crazy. And on the John Roberts thing, you know, there's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who watch the court.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: And they say, I think Roberts is trying to, you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: split the baby.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's the metaphor they use.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Although no one uses split the baby correctly.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Everyone, you ever notice this? You ever notice the way
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: people use split the baby?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Split the baby means like, oh, they figured out a
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: way for everybody to get what they wanted.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That's not, that's not what the split the baby metaphor is.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: King Solomon is said he was going to cut the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: baby in half, and then the real mother said, okay, fine,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: let the other woman have it. And King Solomon goes, okay,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: now I know who the real mother is. And then
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the baby doesn't actually get split. Does anybody even remember
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the story? It's like, we're going to split the baby.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: It's like, no, the baby doesn't get split. You can't
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: split a baby. It's like, that's a lefty thing.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: They split babies.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: The rest of us are like, no, you can't split babies. Anyway,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: John Roberts, oftentimes, court watchers believe, is trying to make
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: everybody happy.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to keep the status quo.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring the temperature down, these types of things.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: And it's like, wait a second. You think this will
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: bring the temperature down? You think stealing even more from
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: American citizens, manufacturing this kind of betrayal is going to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: settle things down in the country? No. If you think
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that's what's happening, you got another thing coming. This is
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: only going to kick things into high gear. This is
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: animating people at new levels in the United States. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the left is going to continue to try and exploit
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: this now with some sort of constitutional stamp of approval,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: thanks to the United States Supreme Court, in order to
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: continue to upend our country. What a disaster. The thing
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: that would have settled everything down is if you had
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: protected America for Americans. That's what would have settled it down.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: So now we got a new fight on our hands.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: But the 5-4 element to this is key, and that's,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you hear John Eastman, he's optimistic about this, that we
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: have to, we stay in this fight, that there's more
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: people coming to his side. J.D. Vance also signaling that
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: we're in a new phase, and it's important that we
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: have four people, four justices, including the great Justice Clarence
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Thomas on our side. Watch J.D.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Vance yesterday, cut eight, react to this.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: What is the administration prepared to do to protect the country,
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: and what can it do after this ruling?
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: Well, one of the things we're going to have to
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: do is just continue to enforce the border law.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: This is a very.
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: Disappointing ruling from the Supreme Court. Of course, we respect it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 11: But we also think that it was a major, major mistake,
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: as Justices Alito and.
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Thomas pointed out.
• 47:54
  Speaker 11: One of the things that might invite, Laura, is people
• 47:56
  Speaker 11: to come here quite literally on a vacation, give birth,
• 47:59
  Speaker 11: and then all of a sudden the child and their
• 48:02
  Speaker 11: family have the full benefits of American citizenship. It's just
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: a preposterous ruling, and the absurdity of that outcome suggests why.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: The Supreme Court should have went the other way.
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: Now, I know a lot of conservatives, Laura, certainly the
• 48:14
  Speaker 11: people that I'm talking to, that you're talking to, are
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: extremely disappointed in this.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: I do actually think there's a really big silver lining here.
• 48:21
  Speaker 11: And that's the simple fact that a lot of legal
• 48:24
  Speaker 11: experts expected this case to go the wrong direction by
• 48:27
  Speaker 11: seven to two or even eight to one.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: The fact that this case was a.
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: Five to four decision effectively means that the concept of
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: birthright citizenship, which is an absurdity, to the 14th Amendment,
• 48:40
  Speaker 11: that concept is hanging by a thread. And so what
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: I take from that is, yes, we've got to fix
• 48:46
  Speaker 11: the immigration system even more. We have to be even
• 48:49
  Speaker 11: more aware of who's coming into our country to make
• 48:52
  Speaker 11: sure that they're not benefiting from this atrocious Supreme Court ruling.
• 48:55
  Speaker 11: But it also means that we have to keep fighting, Laura,
• 48:58
  Speaker 11: because we actually have an opportunity to reverse this decision,
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: just as we've reversed so many bad decisions throughout the generations.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Stay in the fight. Stay in the fight. President Trump is.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: J.D.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Vance is. Stay in the fight. The rest of us
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: need to. We have a great country. We're going to
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: celebrate it this week. And I'm going to do it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: as the kids might say, with my chest.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I'll do it this week. I am doing it with
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: my chest today. It says Golf of America on my T-shirt.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: It's great.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Uncle Sam sitting on the beach drinking. What is he drinking?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: It's like a daiquiri. I think it's a daiquiri. He's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: having a great time on the Golf of America. But
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: we've got a great country. Fight for it.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: Fight for it.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Despite this supreme betrayal. So thank you to J.D. Vance.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: Josh, any other clips that are must-play with that birthright
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: citizenship decision?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I want to move on to the sex decision yesterday.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Anything jump out to you, Josh?
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: Nothing? Okay.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: We're good.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: We're good. All right.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: So on the decision yesterday protecting women's sports.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: This is like, okay, so we did get a good
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: decision from the court yesterday. The Supreme Court upheld the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: fact that states are allowed to ban men from playing
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: women's sports. Oh, okay, good. So it is possible to
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: derive some common sense out of the United States Supreme Court. Now,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: not all the justices.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: As I told.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: You earlier, Tangier Brown Jackson was doing all sorts of garbage, like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what a woman is. This is,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: look at this from Katonji Brown Jackson yesterday. This is
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: really in her write-up. This fellow, Ed Whalen, capturing the
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: screen grab. He says, Katonji Brown Jackson demonstrated, she doesn't
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: even know what a girl is. They cite somebody in
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: the opinion, she does, called BPJ. They just use the initials.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: It's a boy who identifies as a girl.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I'm a girl.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: You're not a girl. You're a boy.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: And here's what she writes. Quote, because West Virginia's laws
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: force BPJ to live, in this case, to play as
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: a boy, though she is a girl, it might well
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: run afoul of Title IX properly construed. Wrong. This is
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: a boy we're talking about. So when she was asked
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: that question, very simple question, what is a woman? And
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: then she was like, I don't know, I'm not a biologist. Well,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't be on the United States Supreme Court
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: if you can't answer basic questions like this. You know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with this, but they
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: said something to the effect of, you know, I'm not
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a veterinarian, but I can tell what a dog is.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I know what a cat is.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: We know what boys are.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: We know what girls are. It's not that complicated. She
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: makes it complicated through her dumbness. She makes it complicated.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Now, this case was not a case about whether boys
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: can play girls sports across the country. It was a
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: case about whether states can pass laws to stop it.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: And the answer from the court as of this moment
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: is yes, they can. Yeah, they can stop it. They
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: can definitely stop it. But we still need a decision
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: from the court that outright declares that boys should not
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: be cheating in girls sports anywhere. Title IX has to
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: prevent that. If Title IX is designed to protect women,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: then it should actually protect women. We still need a
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: decision on that front. But we made a lot of
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: headway yesterday, which was good. Here's NBC reporting on it
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: last night, and they were having trouble describing this to
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: their audience.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: In fact, they gave a trigger warning to the audience
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: last night. Cut 10. Watch this.
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: Just a quick note here. The terms that we're using
• 52:43
  Speaker 12: here during our reporting, biological male, biological female, the high
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: court put those terms in quotations in their decision and
• 52:54
  Speaker 12: their dissent. But just so you know, we're using those
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: terms from the decision itself, biological male, biological female.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Sorry for offending you by telling you the truth. The
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: truth is very offensive on NBC. I'm just we're just quoting.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: We're just quoting here. Biological male, biological female. You know,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: it's it's amazing. The idea that you would use the word,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: the adjective biological to just say the truth. Even that
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. I, you know, I remember like early on
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: in this debate, people often using it.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Biological boy, biological girl.
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  Speaker 2: As a way to, like, give you some sort of
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: conditional explanation. And I started telling people, like, hey, let's
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: not do that anymore. Let's not say biological anymore. You
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to say that. There's no other version of
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: a boy. The word biological is just redundant. At that point,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: you're just repeating the same thing over and over. It's
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: just boy, girl, male, female, man, woman. You know, Clarence
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Thomas yesterday was really clear about this. God, I love
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas. This guy... Can he stay justice forever? Can
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: we advance medicine to the point that this guy could
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: be a Supreme Court justice forever? Supreme Court Justice Clarence
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Thomas yesterday, in his opinion on the subject, wrote the following. Second,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: as the court recognizes, this case concerns, quote, biological men and, quote,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: boys who identify as girls. Men and boys with gender
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: dysphoria are not women or even girls. are not women
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: or even girls. Even if they believe that they are.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Sex is an immutable biological characteristic. It is binary. And
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: man and woman, boy and girl are the terms that
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: correspond to adults and children of each sex. Oh, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: then he quiets a philosophical study. called, Are Women Adult
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Human Females? To use language to obscure reality, to show
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: indifference regarding the truth, is to lie to the public
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  Speaker 2: and cease to treat our fellow citizens as equals. Justice
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Clarence freaking Thomas, baby. Justice Thomas.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Is great. He's great. May he never retire.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: May he stay forever.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: I hope he does. At some point, though, he will
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: have to retire.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: You see yesterday that NPR falsely reported that Sam Alito
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: was retiring yesterday.
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: They just decided.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: They just posted it on the website. They're like, yeah,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Sam Alito's retiring. I'm like, what? Sam Alito's like, what?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I'm retiring?
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: There was no evidence for it. Nina Totenberg just decided
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: to run it. And then they took it down. They
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: deleted the story, retracted it. And then when Anita Tonberg
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: was asked about it, why did you do that? She's like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: somebody heard that somebody was retiring. So I thought it
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: was Sam Alito and we just ran the story. Glad
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: we're not funding you anymore. Glad we're not wasting our
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: money on that garbage, that dumpster fire anymore. What a stupid, stupid,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's what you might call The left's. And
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: now it's time for the left's fake scandal of the week.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Extra, extra.
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