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- DELAYED BUT NEVER DENIED HOSTED BY LATONYA MICHELLE LITTLEJOHN , CO-HOST DEEDEE_ · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well, welcome to another episode of Delay but not Denied
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  Speaker 1: the podcast. On tonight, me and my guest, Miss Diddy,
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  Speaker 1: will be talking about hydrocephalus. This is Hydrocephalus Awareness Month.
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  Speaker 1: But before we begin, we want to go to the
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  Speaker 1: Lord in prayer, Heavenly Father, we come to you right
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  Speaker 1: now asking you to be in the midst of the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: asking you to reach the peaceeople that need to hear it,
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  Speaker 1: reach their ears and their hearts by the God, that
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  Speaker 1: they will receive what it is that you need them
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  Speaker 1: to receive from this message tonight. And it's in your
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  Speaker 1: Son Jesus name. I pray Amen, so Bed, How are you?
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  Speaker 2: How beautiful? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm great? I am great. I am great A.
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  Speaker 2: Long time you ain't no longer? Yes, have a feet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you you are my host. You are the co hosts.
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  Speaker 1: But I wanted to give a definition of what hydrocephilis is,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a condition where there's an excessive acclamation of
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  Speaker 1: severals final fluid in the brain's ventricles. This build up
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  Speaker 1: fluid can cause increased pressure on the brain, leading to
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  Speaker 1: various symptoms and complications. Hydrocephalus can be caused by several
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  Speaker 1: factors which include blockage of CSF flow. This can occur
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  Speaker 1: during due to tumors, infections, head injuries, or congenital malformations,
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  Speaker 1: overproduction of c SF, and IT says, although rare, some
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  Speaker 1: conditions can lead to increased production of c SF impaired
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  Speaker 1: absorption of c SF the body is UH. The body's
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  Speaker 1: ability to absorb c SF can be UH impaired in
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  Speaker 1: certain conditions such as meningitis or a certain type of
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  Speaker 1: hemorrhage can take place, and the symptoms the symptoms of
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  Speaker 1: high can vary dependent on the severity and location of
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  Speaker 1: the blockage. Common symptoms include headache, nausea, and vomiting, confusion,
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  Speaker 1: congenitive problems, cognitive problems, my bad seizures, irritability, sleep disturbances,
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  Speaker 1: enlargement of the head, especially in children, difficulty walking or
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  Speaker 1: coordinating movements, loss of bladder control, and vision problems. Hydrocephalus
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  Speaker 1: is typically diagnosed through a physical exam, medical history, and
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  Speaker 1: brain imaging tests such as an MRI or CT scan.
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  Speaker 1: These tests can reveal the presence of enlarged ventricles and
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  Speaker 1: identify the underlying cause of the fluid build up.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a lotting and the treatment.
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  Speaker 1: The treatment for hydrocephalists usually involved surgery to place a shunt.
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  Speaker 1: A shunt is a thin tube that drains the excess
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  Speaker 1: CSF from the ventricles into another part of the body,
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  Speaker 1: such as the abdomen or pereneal cavity. In some cases,
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  Speaker 1: medication can be used to reduce CSF production or improve
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  Speaker 1: its absorption. So I was an adult when I learned
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  Speaker 1: that I had hydrocephalist, been having it all my life,
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  Speaker 1: didn't know it till I became an adult, never had
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  Speaker 1: to have any revisions.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God, blessed, But it's not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a blessing because I have done without the
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  Speaker 1: correct type of care for so many years to the
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  Speaker 1: point where they feel like, yeah, they feel like if
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  Speaker 1: they try to do surgery, abridge and bleed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because the mine is from the top of my
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  Speaker 2: head to my abomm but it doesn't go my heart.
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  Speaker 2: See where they have your position. That's not fake. Who
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  Speaker 2: would do that? Because normally the ones from the top
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  Speaker 2: all the way down to your abnue and then it
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  Speaker 2: goes like around your heart. It doesn't go in and through.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, who does that?
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  Speaker 1: Mine is in a in a.
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  Speaker 2: Adventureful yeah, and that's my safe. So yeah, they did
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  Speaker 2: serve it for you Gods love. Yeah, yeah, we're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna pray that your missing.
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  Speaker 1: I need forty six years.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna riding this out.
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  Speaker 1: So so yeah, I wanted to talk to you about
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  Speaker 1: hydrocephalis and how it affects your life.
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  Speaker 2: Who hydryplus in my life? Well, of course some may know,
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  Speaker 2: some may not know, because I think I was going
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  Speaker 2: after the last surgery. But I just celebrated a year
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  Speaker 2: of the last chunk revision I had on July eighteenth,
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  Speaker 2: and I was thinking about that the other day. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, how do we remember just that particular date?
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  Speaker 2: Why do I remember that day like it's a freaking anniversary.
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  Speaker 2: But it is. But I probably celebrated the maybe the
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  Speaker 2: fifth or six one I've had. I've had for many
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  Speaker 2: now that it's like you don't really know how many
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  Speaker 2: and you can't keep up with how many. But I
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  Speaker 2: love the fact that you read off the symptoms and
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  Speaker 2: you read off the description, because the interesting part is
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  Speaker 2: my symptom used to be straight borderline of what you read.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like that this time around, God said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I need you to do something else. I had no
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  Speaker 2: idea what was happening. I had no idea what was
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  Speaker 2: going what was the reason for it until after the fact.
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  Speaker 2: But the reason why my stunt needed to be revised
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  Speaker 2: is because my blood pressure was hot. They literally thought
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  Speaker 2: I was having every time I took my blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Usually when I took my bus pressure, I just took
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  Speaker 2: my hand up and then it goes back down. This
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  Speaker 2: time it would not even go back down. It was
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  Speaker 2: just that how my body was saying, no, lady, something's
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  Speaker 2: wrong with you. And I had I got sicked. I
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  Speaker 2: got to my first place. My cousin helped me get
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  Speaker 2: in my first place, and then I got sicked. So
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  Speaker 2: I thought those fool boys going maybe the flu or something.
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  Speaker 2: But I said, no, this this, this, this Garland ain't
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  Speaker 2: where it's hat. So I called her. She sawed the ambulance.
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  Speaker 2: She knew I had a shunk, so she let them
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  Speaker 2: know she got a shunt. Y'all need to come get
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  Speaker 2: her a sack. And when they got me, they immediately
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  Speaker 2: did all the X rays and trying to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that you know what's going on. Da da da da da.
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  Speaker 2: And it turned out the er doctor still not looking
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  Speaker 2: at it correctly. Because no. He says, oh, well, your
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  Speaker 2: sun is King. No, I know symptoms for King. That
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  Speaker 2: wasn't King. I said, but okay, it's whatever because I
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  Speaker 2: already knew by then I was gonna go see my
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  Speaker 2: nerves curtain that I already see anyway, So I was
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  Speaker 2: like whatever, So I stayed overnight just to make sure
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  Speaker 2: I could, you know, they want to make sure I
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  Speaker 2: could sleep or whatever. Stayed overnight. My cousin came back
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  Speaker 2: and got me and we we went back home. So
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  Speaker 2: the next Monday, I was like scheduling a stat to
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  Speaker 2: see my neurosurgeon. And of course I have to schedule
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  Speaker 2: ahead of time because you got a schedule transportation, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. But my cousin took me this time so
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  Speaker 2: I could schedule that week. And so I went to
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  Speaker 2: see him. Knowing me since I was fifteen, know my
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  Speaker 2: adopted mom. You know what I'm saying. He knew my
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  Speaker 2: mama didn't play about my health right, so he immediately
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  Speaker 2: when he came in the door, was like, DDE, what
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  Speaker 2: you doing here? I said, where doctor Ward? I think
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  Speaker 2: there's something wrong with this up now. The doctor said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that it's King. I said, but I know better than that.
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  Speaker 2: So of course they do the standard check your eyes,
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  Speaker 2: check your da da da, And he checked right up
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  Speaker 2: in here and it had been at the hospitals were connected.
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  Speaker 2: It was able to see the X ray. So he
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  Speaker 2: looked it up and he sat there for a minute
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  Speaker 2: and he said, it's broke. I said, it's what he said,
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  Speaker 2: it's broke. But can you do that? Yeah, he said yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because he said one was the last one he had
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  Speaker 2: done before this, And I said, probably ninety three ninety four,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm warning that arena. Maybe ninety four ninety five,
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking because it's been so long. And he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's broke. He said, they get they get wearing tet
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  Speaker 2: and they break. If you don't, if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to have any revised, it's great. So the shunt actually
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  Speaker 2: broke from the just part of my net. If you try,
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  Speaker 2: if you get a draw cutting in half, that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what it looked like. Oh wow, it looked like it
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  Speaker 2: was a straw cutting hands. So he was like, most
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  Speaker 2: people can be alright with it for a few years.
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  Speaker 2: Da da da da before they get real sick. He said,
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  Speaker 2: for you now, we're gonna we can just fix eight pack.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, I remember next week I
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  Speaker 2: was in the emergency room, I mean in the oor,
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to go in, getting ready to have the
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  Speaker 2: procedures done. And he was just like he did. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't do the pacifure because he's older now, so he's
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  Speaker 2: tasically just an advisor. But he made sure that I
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  Speaker 2: had the best playo supposed to have, and I made
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  Speaker 2: sure I had the best layout spot to have, and
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  Speaker 2: God made sure I had the best kayout spot to have,
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  Speaker 2: because I promise you. When I met that surgeon, I
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  Speaker 2: looked right and in his face and I said, now
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  Speaker 2: I know you ain't doctor Ward. I know you're not,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna need you the channel everything that man
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  Speaker 2: talks to you into you, because I'm not playing with you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't play about my head. I don't say about
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  Speaker 2: my when it comes to side a buffler. You you
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  Speaker 2: you you gotta be real good for me to be one.
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  Speaker 2: You cut me in those areas because that's my stuff.
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  Speaker 2: We played it. So he's just like no, he was like,
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  Speaker 2: you laught picking on some sort to try to be serious.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, you're gonna laught today because so we
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna be that serious. We're gonna see it. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be that serious.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So he started laughing and he was like, this chick
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  Speaker 2: right here, I'm just saying sad. So he was actually
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  Speaker 2: he was actually really really great, and he was like
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  Speaker 2: when he did it. After he did, He's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to tout too much in here, I said, don't care,
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  Speaker 2: it's already short. I deliberately wear my head short because
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  Speaker 2: I know the shunts up when it feels like it
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  Speaker 2: wants to act up. And if I had a good
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  Speaker 2: hairstyle and I gotta cut it, I'm gonna be mad, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I make so my head is deliberately sure. So even
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  Speaker 2: even now, this is this is my hat. If I
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  Speaker 2: like to call it, you don't like to say it
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  Speaker 2: like that, but this is my hat. I got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of different hats because why because I like to
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  Speaker 2: change a little bit, but I like to look cute.
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  Speaker 2: So so he cut my head, had it, But I
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  Speaker 2: had surgery that that night, was in the in my
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  Speaker 2: hospital in at midnight, at midnight, yeah, at midnight, And
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  Speaker 2: I had to stay in the hospital for like two days.
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  Speaker 2: The medicare servants. They don't act like they want to
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  Speaker 2: teach you, and no longer if you can halfway move around,
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  Speaker 2: which I was fine because I was like, okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: just whatever. I had just got to my own apartment,
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  Speaker 2: so I hadn't even enjoyed my own place to have
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  Speaker 2: to go back into a hospital. Right, Oh, I was good, Well, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm go home. Okay. God. So basically a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the care that I had to do after for recovery
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  Speaker 2: was done at home. They had a home help and
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  Speaker 2: it was come in like for just three times a week.
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  Speaker 2: They had a physical therapist come in with me, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to see me. But that was about it. But but
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  Speaker 2: but that was a blessing because I found out I
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  Speaker 2: can actually possibly walk again. You will and you will
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  Speaker 2: and you.
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  Speaker 1: Will walk. Yeah. I was gonna ask you with prior revisions,
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  Speaker 1: did you have like any symptoms that let you know
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  Speaker 1: you needed to have your shirt revised?
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Most majority of my symptoms have That's why
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  Speaker 2: I knew this one was different because the majority of
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  Speaker 2: my symptoms usually are the vomiting, the mind grain headache.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like nothing you can take can help any
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  Speaker 2: of that. Right, you were in a few position crime
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  Speaker 2: because you can't get rid of this blessing headache. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: those were the majority of my symptoms. I might have
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  Speaker 2: had temperatures when I was younger. I didn't know my mom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, took care of that, but she was a nurse.
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  Speaker 2: But I believe the majority of what I remember were
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  Speaker 2: really bad headaches and growing up. Yeah. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 2: only think I did at this at this conjunction, was vomited.
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  Speaker 2: It was like my body said, Okay, we where you
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  Speaker 2: need to be now. We're gonna get you to the
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  Speaker 2: hospit right, m And the thing about it that was
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  Speaker 2: crazy is that the doctor said that I had lived
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  Speaker 2: in Florida with my ex husband for like four years
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  Speaker 2: and the doctors was like, your sun was broken Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I said, how what nobody told me that? We said
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  Speaker 2: it was broke.
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  Speaker 1: We saw it.
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  Speaker 2: Then we saw the last X rays they do. They
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  Speaker 2: had to do X rays before I had my first
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  Speaker 2: conference hom the surgery because they have to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that the sun can stand whatever long procedure they have
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  Speaker 2: to do. If it's a long procedure, they did us.
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  Speaker 2: They did us, They did something. I mean, they did
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  Speaker 2: us X ray and saw that it was broken. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: said one word, not one single word. Nobody said, go
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  Speaker 2: see a nerd surgeon, Go follow up with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Really well, do you know if you're still work or not?
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  Speaker 1: Because for me, I've gone to different neurologists and I've
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  Speaker 1: had them to tell me. I've had one to tell
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  Speaker 1: me that it's working and it's working properly. I've had
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  Speaker 1: one to say, oh, it's it's just there. It served
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  Speaker 1: its purpose at you know, when you were a child.
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  Speaker 1: So the only time we have a conversation about it
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  Speaker 1: is when I asked about removing it, and they tell
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  Speaker 1: me because I've had it in there since birth and
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  Speaker 1: never had a revision or anything like that, they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to mess with it because they don't want me
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  Speaker 1: to hemorrhage and bleed. Yeah, but trying to get some
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  Speaker 1: type of relief, it's always been hard for me, Like
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  Speaker 1: mine is the same way. So I mean, as far
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  Speaker 1: as that goes, it's behind I hit behind my ear
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  Speaker 1: and it comes down and it drains into the ventricle
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  Speaker 1: my heart. But it's it's been a journey. It's been
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  Speaker 1: a journey. There's nights I can't sleep, there's days where
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  Speaker 1: I have been up for three and four days at
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  Speaker 1: a time without even taking a nap, because it's like
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  Speaker 1: my body says, okay, we we're not tired. Well I can't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, doctors have tried to prescribe medicines to help
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  Speaker 1: me sleep or whatever, but nothing has been strong enough
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  Speaker 1: to break the hydrocephalis is doing to me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: does the hydrocephilists bother you when you try to sleep?
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  Speaker 1: Like I can't lay on that side for too long?
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  Speaker 2: You know what is an interesting thing about that is
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  Speaker 2: that to answer your first question, the doctor did say
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  Speaker 2: that I have a now I mean complete working thing.
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  Speaker 2: They have to put like a.
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  Speaker 1: Like a.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to call it, like a maker
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  Speaker 2: pace maker type thing on the top of your head
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  Speaker 2: kind of control what fluid goes, you know, down or whatever. Right,
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  Speaker 2: and that that particular piece that I had respond So
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  Speaker 2: the only thing that needed to be repaired was the twoth.
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  Speaker 2: The tooth, So the only thing that I needed to
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  Speaker 2: repair was they need to put a new tube in,
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  Speaker 2: which I find sometimes very interesting because you you only
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  Speaker 2: cut here and you didn't cut it down to the avenue,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, how do you get that all? The
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  Speaker 2: way down there, and I ain't not not cut no
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  Speaker 2: where else but up skates. That's God anyways. No, I
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  Speaker 2: don't usually have too many issues sleeping wise, which set
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  Speaker 2: with the sun, more of my backs and days my
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  Speaker 2: bathroom the one that that the part where because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had two backers too. So the crazy part is
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  Speaker 2: the area that is the oldest star is with its
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  Speaker 2: the most. But he had to cut me twice, so
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  Speaker 2: I had the normal birth scar at the at the
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  Speaker 2: lower back when you first won right, he had to
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  Speaker 2: go upward the last time because he had to streak
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  Speaker 2: the bone off of my feather cord. So it was
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  Speaker 2: like when I got a whole another star. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: who wants to be cut any mere? So that's only
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  Speaker 2: that's the only area that I that I have issues
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  Speaker 2: with the sun. Only caused the problem when something's wrong
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  Speaker 2: with it, by the grace of God, because I don't
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  Speaker 2: really I don't remember it's there until it's there. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if I get aheadache, I get nervous because I'm wondering
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  Speaker 2: if this headache is gonna go away. Fight But and
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  Speaker 2: you you can tell which one is with But sometimes
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  Speaker 2: it tends to have its own little mindset and be like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna stay here for a little white life scenario.
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  Speaker 2: And you don't know it until it's until you got it.
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  Speaker 2: So I really don't know it's there until something happens,
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  Speaker 2: by the grace of God, because yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can turn my head a certain way and I feel it,
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  Speaker 1: like like even with running my fingers across.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot leave it alone.
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  Speaker 1: I have it stick out where I can fit it.
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  Speaker 2: I stick out to but I definitely.
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  Speaker 1: But and that's how I am. Like, you know, every
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  Speaker 1: time I get some kind of surgery, my hands automatically
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  Speaker 1: go to that location just to fellow around. I guess
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  Speaker 1: to see what's normal and what's not. You were talking
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  Speaker 1: about your deck surgeries. I had one, and that was
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  Speaker 1: the one at birth. It goes across. It was across three.
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  Speaker 2: I had three. The last one I had was my
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  Speaker 2: third because the first one I had the first one
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  Speaker 2: I had a birth. Then I have one when I
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  Speaker 2: was probably I want to say, maybe sixte maybe sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: And because of the way I stood, I stood with
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  Speaker 2: I would walk like this or they were trying to
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  Speaker 2: sit me up. So every time I walked the girls
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  Speaker 2: with you it's a party how y'all doing. So they
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  Speaker 2: was trying to make sure they kind of correct that
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  Speaker 2: as best as they could. So that was the first
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: one after birth, and then I had one in twenty dates. Man, well,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I just remember. I remember the day, but I'm trying
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: not to. Twenty eighteen is the year that I had
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the last one, and that was because there was my
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: backbone was pressing on what my tether for it, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: he had to go in and strip the phone down
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: off of it and then retethered it. And the reason
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: why I had the symptoms for that is because my
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: nerves was really bad. I was really hurt. I mean
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: my whole hits was hurt. In my back. I could
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: barely move. I could barely do anything anything. And he
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: said he had me on medication for a while, about
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: me two years, and he said we're not gonna do
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: it to be ready to do it, because he knows
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I've been cut one too many times and I'm not
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: honestly betting cut. Someone has to be I'm mean, the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: medicine to work, and so I don't have to be cut.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: But the work it worked for as long as it
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: could until I was like, you know, Doc, I'm there
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: just let's let's just get this go with because I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: was tired of keep I was tired of letting my
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: gallu hit and keep going up. I didn't want to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: go to another dose of gallivating because I was like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I want to do that. I want to get off
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: of this kill. So I know right now I'm still
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: on it, but it's because I am actually on a
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: lower dose than I was. But still I'm like, mm mmm,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need this to go away. So he did
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the same guy who guys knows my son being broke,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: same man who did my He that's actually I believe
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: the last Thursday or one of the last thurdy he
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: actually did, and mine was it My back surgy was
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the last one he actually did it. So I'm thankful.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you have a good neurosurgeon, you don't
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: want that ny gonna where. But I had to change
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to go to another plant because he doesn't do thirdery
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm in the country, and so I have to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: go someplace that's close to I can get to. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: was upset. I feel like people family. I was like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, I don't want to go. I don't
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: want to go. Doctor Royd. I'm like, nah, I knew
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: his secretary. You know what I'm saying. They were family,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, wait a minute, how I'm gonna do this?
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: So I was upset. But when you have a good
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: thurd than my body, but this other one you put
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: me where he's good too, So I'm thankful for that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But we know the real position, so we good.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We are a part of a very large community of
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: people that have hydrocephalus and spina bifida. I have seen
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have, but I've seen some
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: instances where people have been fortunate enough to have their
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: shunt removed. Me too, mix me just I want this
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: thing out, but I do understand that it is keeping
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: me alive, and it's keeping me here because I still
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: have work.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's who were getting to the brain where's at right? Well,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I'm thankful for that for you and.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Me, and I mean just being in the community and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: seeing these babies with this in like these third world
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: countries that don't have access to the doctors that we had,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: where their heads are extremely big and stollen, and and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it breaks my heart too because a lot of them
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: don't make it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's but I realized this is a this
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: is a den thing, this is this is not just
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a sunk thing. This is a brain surgery. You are
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: actually going into somebody's heads, touching their brain area and
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: fixing the fluid or trying to fix the yeah, trying
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: to fix the food intake. So this is not and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't really I never think. I never thought I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: realized that that was that until, like he said, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: got older. I did not realize that I was actually
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: having brain thurd Like, I never thought that that would
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: be the case until I looked into it. So more
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: was like, oh wow, this is real, this is this
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is really serious. This really damaged me. And that's why
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about my bilife brother because I'm like, God
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: gave me the same symptoms that he currently has now
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: because I need to make sure that he has what
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: he needs to have done. And I'm like, okay, you
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: know what I mean to telling me they need to
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: fix their son. I'm like, this is telling them to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: call me and they need to pick that son asap,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: because he's like you, he's had his son that he
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: can really member all his life. But because of him
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: not having the sun repaired fast enough, like I did
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: some of his you know, some of his the comprehensions
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: and things like that. Still was a kind of slightly off.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So I gotta let him know this ain't nothing to
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: play with. Let's do this now a fac I'm like, okay, father,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I want to see all of that. You could have
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: give me the regular symptoms sad and so I knew
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: what it was. I was said, nine, we're gonna go last,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: please take it off for help, and yeah, I was
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: like okay. And then when I talked to my brother
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and he's just having those same answers our stops, I
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, because just wanted me to do this.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Is this was your plan? So you guys don't play
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: about me.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Is you know you have a sibling that has the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: same thing that we have and uh, I you know,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: being born into the family I was born into, I'm
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the only one that was born with the disability that
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I'm aware of. And it's hard because there's really nobody
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: to lean on. Family, Yeah, because nobody knows what I'm
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: dealing with.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: But I can relate to that. Why because I was
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: adopted and nobody in my family has finals They didn't
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: adopt another CHILDE was trying to visit. You know, my
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: mom wanted to be the keeople. That was going to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: be too much that she didn't want. She didn't want
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: my brother. At one point she said she didn't want
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: us to be separated, but she just couldn't do it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That's just that was just too much, right. I mean,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you were to say I was able to walk, and
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: then you have him, and then you know what I'm saying,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you don't know so and he doesn't walk, so that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: would have been a lot. I mean, let's let's not
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: say he probably wouldn't have been able to walk, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: he came to my family because we determined, folks, we're
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: gonna make you walk. But I mean I did what
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you're saying because I don't. I did not I had
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I don't ever really remember having a friend with finf
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: for that to understand and relate what I'm going until
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I met you on Facebook and some other people and
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's a community, okay, okay. Because I
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: felt like you, I was lost. I didn't have nobody
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: that was understanding.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I felt like I was the only person alive with it,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and I felt like it was punishment because I was like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: these doctors can't even pronounce it correctly, And I'm like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: how you adopted and you can't but and whatever else
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: we got going on.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Let's not talk about WFB here all day.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know that this month is coming to an end,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and this month was a hydro siphilis awareness month. Is
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: there anything special that you've done that you feel you
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to do otherwise now because it
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: or say or just in general in general?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, in general, I am definitely doing something that I
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: never thought I would do, nor did the doctors think
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I would do, because you know, they give you the
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: death sentions of fining a business and you ain't gonna
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: be nothing to them in the corner and the suits
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and leave them now. It's like Scenarrow. So yeah, I
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was sold. I was not gonna be able to walk.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I was not gonna be able to function on my own.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I was not gonna be able to do anything. I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: living by myself. I'm actually doing online learning online college campus.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I just started being a volunteer to greet people for
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: new students, and I'm in my third I'm going into
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: my fourth quarter. Yeah, into my fourth quarter and third quarter.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I got straight as my EPA is four point Oh
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: won't you do it? Won't do it? Yeah, And that's god,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: that's nothing, but guy, because when I tell you, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: didn't see myself doing nobody's college know nothing like that
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: at getting a degree of closing. Yeah, that's that's nothing.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Doctors has seen that. Sometimes I wish the doctors was
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: still alive because I'm only not here probably, but yeah,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I wish it was allied. Yeah, no, you don't know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: my god, no, he got the final face up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: When I was adopted, they had a and remind me
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to show it to you. There's a thing in the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: paper that they put in the paper, I guess trying
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to get somebody to adopt me and stuff like that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And my grandmother biological, she clipped it out the paper
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and saved it, like almost like she knew that they
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: were gonna find me. The way that they worded things
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: dealing with the hydrocephalist and the spine of bit for
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the and being that I was a baby. I was
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: eighteen months old when I got adopted. It's crazy like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they had this whole, like half a page of the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: newspaper where they had a picture. Yeah, they had a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: picture of me, a description of what I was dealing with.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And the one word, the one word that stuck out
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to me because of brain surgery, they said that I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: was retarded. That was the word that they chose to use.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: That's what they try to say when they're telling the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: parents put them on the institutions of we're gonna be flapped.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was supposed to be institutionalized.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: The one thing I can say about my mom is
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: she wouldn't going for none of that. She went right
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: ahead and stuck me in in regular education with the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: rest of the people.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: And today.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I had no issues with retaining anything except for math.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Math is of the devil. I don't care who who
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: who like it, who love it or whatever.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: We don't. We're here to tell you right now. Do
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: not like that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: It's a common thing, like you can actually google it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: People that have hydrocephalis and struggle with math, And it's
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the craziest thing. But and I wouldn't wish it on
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: anybody because those sleep, those sleepless nights that I endure
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a lot. It's just it's hard because I be wanting
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to hit somebody up. You awake you awake, you awake,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you up.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: That's why I keep my phone off with you crazy.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I love you, but I'm won't get you up when
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I get up, get set. So I'm about to, like
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: twelve one o'clock you want to play for us, but
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: if I see get you up to get up. I
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: love you, though I.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Know I love you too. I was trying to think.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, how does living with the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: disability affect you? Going to school and doing all of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: all of that and having a social life and stuff.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Social life? So life life, This is my supposal life.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You're my supposed to life. Oh my goodness, how does
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: it effect well? I I can't really say it affects
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: too much because my adopted mother was no I really
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: would speaker could have met her and my parents, because
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I promise you she was no joke. From the age
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: of as long as I remember, probably fifty years old,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: maybe I can probably go that far. She didn't play,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: She did not never. She never treated me like I
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: was just saying. She would never let my dad do it.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: She never no, because she's gonna have to fun on
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: her own. She's gonna to herself. And so when I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: got old enough to learn how to, you know, cook
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: for myself or cook and help her cook. She was like, yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you better figure it out. If you're gonna stop, you
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: better know how to do this. But she always spoke
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: things over my life that I in my mind could
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: not even fathom. She would speak over marriage, she would
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: speak over me going to college. He would speak over
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: me driving. She saw things in me because she said,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with me, right, She said, you may
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: have something physically wrong, and you can't do a lot
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: of things physically, but there's nothing wrong with you, she said.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And that was this is the one thing she always said.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: You could do anything you put your mind. He said,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I found that out at the age of two and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: a half three years old, when you told me in
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the car with miraculously, I'm gonna walk on me. And
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: she said she didn't know what to do with that,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: because she said, where'd that come from? Obviously God, because
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: she said, I just busted out saying it at three
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: years I probably started walking around three years old, my
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: sister at eighty three almost three years old. Yeah, around three.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So she was like, you were determined, she said, So
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I know you determined to do whatever you want. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: living on my own has been a different change of
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: pace because this is the first time I've ever done that.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I went from being a girlfriend, being a fiance, being
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a wife to being separated divorce. So I'm like, oh, father,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: this is a heck of a path we're going on.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: But it's been answer because why Because I'm able to
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: now put into action which I was already doing anyway,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: but put into actions how to take care of myself.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't like a partners.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying I with my department, but I don't
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: need right, you know what I'm saying, because my mom
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: taught me everything. I take here of my own stuff.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I handed my bills, I handled whatever I need, grocery delivered,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Thank God to have that now, so is delivered. You
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I handle my own I set
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: up my own insurance so I get my fans to
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: pation so I can go to the doctor. So nobody
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: has to come and help me. Because why, Because I'm
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: trying to make sure that I don't have to depend
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: upon nobody. My mom never wanted that, so depending upon
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: people is not where of that far. So I don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: want to have to go back and do that when
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I need you or I owe you for doing this.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Mama always said, if you don't have to ask, don't,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: don't you're gonna owe somebody and you don't need that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And everybody that says if you need anything called, they
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: don't mean it, because the minute you call, you go
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: straight the voicemail or you've got to hear some type
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: of excuse or whatever.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, oh god, I do it myself.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We're about to come to a close. Yeah, And I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: just wanted to know if there's anything that you would
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: like to put out in the atmosphere for maybe a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: child that is growing up that has hydrocephalus and in
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: school and trying to maintain a good grade because you've
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: been doing you've been doing a dang one things since
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you've been in college and this. Yeah. Yeah, So if
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: there's anything that you want to say before we head
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: out the floor, is yours?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Okay? Well, Antonio, thank you for that beautiful message. You see,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: we're fine, we're crazy. But as for parents and students,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: you know who know they have hide your sisters. I
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: just say, let's your child be let them, let them,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: let him go up and be where they're supposed to be.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Let God do what he's gonna do with them. Pray
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: over there, pray over the baby, keep them covered because
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: people don't understand that the doctors don't know everything. Because
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I promise you God got the final pay. I wasn't
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: supposed to do nothing with my life. And when I
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: tell you, I look back over my life and be like, Father,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: what were we doing here? I mean, this lady right here
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: made me an offer through the Father because listening because
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't see none of that happened, and I was like,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: oh no, I write what I want to do that,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: so don't stop you.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I just feel like everybody has a story to tell,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and being that were born with disabilities and being adopted,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there's so much, you know, we can pull apart and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: share with others so that they might be able to urge.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: We're here to encourage people and it sounds bad to say,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: but it's not bad to say because we most disabled
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: people don't want to be that inspiration for you. But
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: in general, that's what God made us to be in
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a way because why because He wants you to see that,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Oh you being lazy by what you're doing. Look at
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: what they're doing, and they got to fight a hard
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and fight to get to what you're trying to do. Right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: so it's like, are you kidding me? You really just
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be killing? And that's what Goda saying, y'all gonna
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: get killing and these people are out here doing it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, we we're here to do what God
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. And if that's an inspire.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely you sure. Later well, I would like to thank
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: everybody for tuning in tonight to delay but not deny
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the podcast. We will be back the second Monday and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: fourth Friday of October. October is spin a bit for
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: their awareness.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Much so we'll be back.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: We will definitely be back and we'll discuss find a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: bit for them what that's like and hopefully educate some
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: people and hopefully, yeah, and educate and inspire because we
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: want we want the family to be able to understand
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: They can go and do whatever they want, absolutely whatever
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: they want. Don't look at your child and think that
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: they have limitations, because they don't. I promise you. My
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: mama didn't give me none. I got to think like
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: everybody else, Listen, I got it all. I was a
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: normal child.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I definitely was treated normally to a certain degree, I'll say,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: because my mama treated me like flying China, like if
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you touch me, she's gonna break, and so.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of things I couldn't. I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: couldn't do because my mom was scared, so he was nervous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not I don't understand.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I know, you know it at all, not even a
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, you had your baby, but you didn't treat
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: him like that, so you know you let him deep. Yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: so I get that. I get yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, but again, thank you for co hosting tonight. I
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: look forward to the fourth Friday of October so that
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: we can do it again. I want to tell my
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: my audience thank you for stopping by and checking us out,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: seeing what we do. Come back again. The conversation is
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: always different. So yeah, that's all I got. So thank
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: y'all for coming out. God bless you tonight.
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  Speaker 2: HM