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Best Buy Refuses to Serve Customer Who Called Staffer “Sir” · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 1: Live from the Liberty University studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's
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  Speaker 1: America's favorite gun-toting, Bible-clanging, deplorable American.
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  Speaker 2: That's us, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Our love is American, right.
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  Speaker 4: Todd Starnes.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Todd Starnes Radio Show.
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  Speaker 3: We are proudly broadcasting border-to-border, coast-to-coast, Across the Fruited Plain. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: we have a jam-packed show for you today and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of just crazy, weird stories going on. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: the Lindsay Clancy, the final arguments, closing arguments in that trial,
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  Speaker 3: now underway. And we're going to dip into some of
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  Speaker 3: that and we'll play some of the audio from that.
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  Speaker 3: What a crazy story that is. Also, Best Buy is
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  Speaker 3: in the headlines today. And this is, it's the craziest
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  Speaker 3: story I've seen in a while. So a guy goes
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  Speaker 3: into a Best Buy and he wants to buy a
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  Speaker 3: laptop computer. And you know how it is at Best Buy.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, it's hard to find anybody actually working
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  Speaker 3: in there. And so when you do finally get somebody,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you want to be polite and nice because
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  Speaker 3: you want to get your stuff and you want to
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  Speaker 3: pay for it. And then you've got to show your
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  Speaker 3: receipt before they let you walk out of the store
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  Speaker 3: and go about your day. So this guy wanted to
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  Speaker 3: buy a laptop. And the guy's a pretty polite guy,
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  Speaker 3: really nice guy. And so he went up to the
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  Speaker 3: counter and there's a clerk. And the guy says, I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to buy a laptop. And the clerk said, all right,
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  Speaker 3: let me go get you one. And he said, thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate your help. Now, Dylan, if somebody said, thank you, sir,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's a very polite, cordial thing to do. Normally,
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  Speaker 3: the customer wouldn't even say anything.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, saying thank you is like baseline, like, yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, or thank you, sir, which I think
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  Speaker 3: is even more like, okay, this is somebody who was
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  Speaker 3: raised right.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So the guy says, thank you, sir. The clerk turns
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  Speaker 3: back around and says, how dare you? How dare you?
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  Speaker 3: I am no sir, sir. I'm a ma'am. And so
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  Speaker 3: the guy was like, wait, what? And so the clerk
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  Speaker 3: happens to be transgender. So he's a dude who identifies
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  Speaker 3: as a girl, as a woman. And so the clerk
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  Speaker 3: is enraged over all of this. And the poor guy,
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  Speaker 3: the customer was just trying to be nice and polite.
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And the customer, and this is all on video, and
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  Speaker 3: it's going viral on the socials, and the transgender Best
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  Speaker 3: Buy employee just became enraged. I refuse to sell you
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  Speaker 3: any laptop unless you call me a ma'am. You better
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  Speaker 3: call me a ma'am, or there's going to be H-E
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  Speaker 3: double hockey sticks to pay. How dare you call me
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  Speaker 3: a ma'am? The poor guy is just sort of flummoxed.
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  Speaker 3: He's just standing there saying, look, dude, I just want
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  Speaker 3: a laptop, dude. How dare you call me a dude?
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  Speaker 3: I've been triggered. So anyway, the guy was emotional. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: he was a woman.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, the customer is like, look, I just need
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  Speaker 3: a laptop. I just need a laptop. That's all. And
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  Speaker 3: the clerk says, I'm not going to sell. The clerk
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  Speaker 3: refused to sell the guy a laptop computer. You will
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  Speaker 3: not be able to purchase anything here unless you call
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  Speaker 3: me by my name, and I'm a ma'am. So the
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  Speaker 3: customer has to see the manager, right? I mean, at
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  Speaker 3: that point, you're like, what is this? What's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought, if this had happened to Todd Starnes,
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  Speaker 3: I would have thought I was being pranked. And I
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  Speaker 3: have used every masculine pronoun in the world to address
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  Speaker 3: this guy. So anyway, the manager comes over. And the manager,
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  Speaker 3: all right, what's the problem here? And so the guy
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  Speaker 3: at this point, this guy's got his cell phone on,
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  Speaker 3: and he's recording everything. And so the guy was like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted a laptop. I went over. I said,
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  Speaker 3: can you get me a laptop? He said, sure. And
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  Speaker 3: I said, thank you, sir. And the store manager was like,
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  Speaker 3: how dare you? Who do you think you are calling
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  Speaker 3: my employee a sir when my employee is clearly a man? Well, sir,
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  Speaker 3: your female employee has balls. Not boobs. Balls. So anyway,
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  Speaker 3: the manager takes the side of the transgender worker and
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  Speaker 3: refuses to sell the guy a laptop computer. Sir, we
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  Speaker 3: cannot sell you a laptop unless you properly identify my
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  Speaker 3: staffer by the preferred word. And that preferred word is ma'am.
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  Speaker 3: So the customer said, all right, I'm done here. And
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  Speaker 3: he left. He left. So apparently at Best Buy now,
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  Speaker 3: you must comply. Do they wear? I haven't been in
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  Speaker 3: a Best Buy in ages. Dylan, do you know if,
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  Speaker 3: are they wearing badges that like, you know, with their
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  Speaker 3: preferred pronouns? All of that kind of stuff?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think, no. The badges don't say the pronouns
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  Speaker 6: on them. Not that I'm aware of.
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  Speaker 3: You know, back in the day, they used to have
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  Speaker 3: the Geek Squad, right? That was like the big cool
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  Speaker 3: thing that Best Buy did. They still have them in
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  Speaker 3: our area a little bit. They have like a section. No,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they're calling it something else.
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  Speaker 3: They're calling it the Freak Squad now. The Freak Squad.
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  Speaker 6: Not as good, but you know, whatever they want.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my Lord. The country's gone slap-crazy nuts, ladies and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 3: What can I tell you? So there you have it,
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  Speaker 3: Best Buy. They're standing by their aggrieved employee who got triggered.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, this is going to be workman's comp, right?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the employee could get a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: out of this.
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  Speaker 6: For harassment?
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  Speaker 3: Well, his harassment, but yes, for harassment, yes.
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  Speaker 4: I bet.
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  Speaker 3: I guess. I don't know. What would that even look like?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is this like PTSD or what? And here's
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  Speaker 3: the thing. You know the guy. I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 3: certain kind of person that works at Best Buy. So
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  Speaker 3: you know this was not exactly a looker. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not like, I mean, it was very clear if the
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  Speaker 3: guy said, thank you, sir, that this looked like a dude.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah. I mean, there was probably some stubble.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe a small beard, you know? There had to be
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  Speaker 6: some reason why he said, sir. It couldn't have been
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  Speaker 6: because he just wanted to be offensive. This guy probably
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  Speaker 6: looked like a guy.
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  Speaker 3: You're exactly correct. I'm just saying. All right, 901-260-5926, our
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  Speaker 3: Leavitt's last day. This is it, right? She's wrapping up.
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  Speaker 3: talking about her last days. You know, the big question
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  Speaker 3: is who replaces Caroline Leavitt? And they haven't made that
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  Speaker 3: announcement yet. A lot of people are thinking that Trump
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  Speaker 3: may just do it himself. There's some speculation that maybe
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  Speaker 3: Marco Rubio or some of the cabinet secretaries might just
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  Speaker 3: do like a rotating shift. I'm curious who you think
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  Speaker 3: the president ought to pick. There's someone, I was doing
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  Speaker 3: a show last night in Chicago, no, Cincinnati, WLW, and
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  Speaker 3: it was a late night show. They had me on
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  Speaker 3: to talk about my new book, The Golden Age, and
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  Speaker 3: we had a great, great conversation. It was like a
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, sure, happy to do it. So anyway, he
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  Speaker 3: said that he thinks Carrie Lake would be a great
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  Speaker 3: press secretary. And, you know, I got to thinking about
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  Speaker 3: spot on. I think Carrie Lake would be ferocious because
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  Speaker 3: Carrie Lake will tear you a new one. Could you
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  Speaker 3: imagine Carrie Lake in front of the press corps? You know,
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  Speaker 3: she used to be, a lot of people don't remember this,
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  Speaker 3: she used to be a news anchor at a Fox
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  Speaker 3: affiliate in Phoenix before she got into politics. And Carrie
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  Speaker 3: Lake will not put up with any sort of foolishness
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  Speaker 3: from the White House press corps. They would be terrified.
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  Speaker 3: They would be terrified. All right, you, eyebrows, CNN, what
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  Speaker 3: do you want? What's your question? Never mind. Please don't
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  Speaker 3: grow a pair. Go stand in the corner.
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  Speaker 9: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I would love that. Look, you know what? We would preempt.
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  Speaker 3: the radio show, so that we could just take the
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  Speaker 3: press briefing live. Where's little Jimmy Acosta? Little Jimmy, where
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  Speaker 3: are you? I can't see. Oh, there you are. Somebody
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  Speaker 3: get him a phone book to sit on. Just emasculating
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  Speaker 3: the reporter. I would pay money to see that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think Carrie Lake would be great. She would be
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  Speaker 3: able to advance the president's agenda, and I think that
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  Speaker 3: she'd be able to go to war with the press
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  Speaker 3: corps because she's a no-nonsense kind of a gal. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just curious. Who do you think would be good?
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  Speaker 3: Some people have mentioned Scott Jennings over at CNN. Let
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  Speaker 3: me just say this about Scott Jennings. He is BFFs
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  Speaker 3: with Mitch McConnell and that crowd. He also gets very upset,
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  Speaker 3: and I've heard him, and this is nothing secret at all,
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  Speaker 3: but we were at a Young America's Foundation gathering, and
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  Speaker 3: the guy's giving a speech, and it was a fine enough,
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  Speaker 3: it was okay speech, but then you take questions from
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  Speaker 3: the kids, and that's the whole thing about YAF is
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  Speaker 3: these gatherings, and I've spoken at, gosh, probably a dozen
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  Speaker 3: of these things. And the fun part is after you speak,
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  Speaker 3: you take questions from the students, and you have no
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  Speaker 3: idea what these kids are going to say. So I
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  Speaker 3: call these, just in my mind, I call it the
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  Speaker 3: Stump Starns segment of the event because, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: kids are going to try to, you know, they're going
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  Speaker 3: to try to catch on doing something, right? It's because
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  Speaker 3: they're kids. You know, it's fun. So anyway, somebody asked
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  Speaker 3: a question about how in the world Scott Jennings can
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  Speaker 3: put up with being around all these left-wingers at CNN.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought it was a terrific question and one that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, needed to be asked. And so Jennings actually
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  Speaker 3: lectures this kid and then the entire audience about how
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't like it, he doesn't appreciate people making fun
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  Speaker 3: of his colleagues at CNN. And I thought, oh, so you're–
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  Speaker 3: All right, woke and a squish. All right, gotcha. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, Jennings has been a never-Trumper for a
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  Speaker 3: very long time. I don't think he's the guy. Whoever
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  Speaker 3: it is, I think you've got to go back and
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  Speaker 3: look at their history, look at what they've said about
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  Speaker 3: the president. You've got to do your research here because
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  Speaker 3: getting the wrong person in, and the question is, would
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  Speaker 3: Scott Jennings be able to to advance the president's agenda
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  Speaker 3: to the press corps? I don't think so. But that's
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  Speaker 3: just me. I do like Carrie Lake, though. Anyway, we're
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  Speaker 3: opening up the phone lines here. Who do you think
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  Speaker 3: ought to replace? Who do you think ought to replace
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  Speaker 3: Caroline Levin? 901-260-5926 is our telephone number. That's 901 260-5926. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everybody. Welcome back. This is the Todd Stearns Radio Show.
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  Speaker 3: Honored to have you with us today. Big question in
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  Speaker 3: our first hour. Who do you think ought to replace
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  Speaker 3: Caroline Leavitt? And, of course, a lot of folks wanted
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  Speaker 3: to weigh in on the big Best Buy controversy as well.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the phone lines. Elkhart, Kansas. Katie is
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  Speaker 3: listening to us on KGNC Radio. Hi, Katie. What's on
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  Speaker 3: your mind today?
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  Speaker 13: Well, just wanted to pass on a little bit of information.
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  Speaker 13: about Best Buy's digital stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 13: We purchased a digital photo album for my mother, and
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  Speaker 13: we had a difficult time setting up the account and everything.
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  Speaker 13: And then also, our bank debit card, when tried to
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  Speaker 13: use online, would not work. Come to find out, these
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  Speaker 13: two things go through the country of Georgia, to process
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  Speaker 13: all of the digital stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Why am I not surprised by that?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, it's nuts.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Well, thank you for that intel there. So you're
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  Speaker 3: not surprised they've got a transgender dude that got a
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  Speaker 3: little upset there for being misgendered.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, geez. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: The customer should have grabbed him in places and went, nope,
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  Speaker 13: you're not a man.
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  Speaker 14: Ah!
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  Speaker 3: I think that would have caused some more problems, Katie. Oh, well.
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  Speaker 3: All right. What do you think about Caroline Lovett?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I really hate to say or go, but I
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  Speaker 13: believe the Lakes lady should proceed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You like Carrie Lake?
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  Speaker 13: Yes. Carrie Lake.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 13: I apologize.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. All right. Well, Katie, we sure do appreciate
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  Speaker 3: you calling in from Elkhart, Kansas, listening to us on
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  Speaker 3: our great affiliate there, KGNC. So I think we've got
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  Speaker 3: five or six stations out in Kansas that carry the program.
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  Speaker 3: Our telephone number, by the way, is 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. Dylan,
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  Speaker 3: you know what we ought to do. Do we have
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  Speaker 3: our mailbag music? Normally, we have that handy.
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  Speaker 6: We always have it, Todd.
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  Speaker 3: All right. I think we ought to read some of
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  Speaker 3: these negative reviews. What do you think?
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  Speaker 6: I think that's a wonderful idea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is coming from Amazon, ladies and gentlemen. And
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  Speaker 3: these are some of the negative reviews that we have received.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them are just not very nice. All right,
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  Speaker 3: let's see. Here we go. I should have been more
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  Speaker 3: prepared for this, actually, Dylan. Amazon makes it very difficult. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: here we go. This is from some Muslim by the
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  Speaker 3: name of Akasha Shaw. One-star rating. Trash book. Absolutely trash
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  Speaker 3: of a book. Has no value and provides nothing useful.
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  Speaker 11: All lies.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if they even bought the book. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I want to know. Here we go. There are a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them, unfortunately. I'm having to scroll down, Dylan,
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  Speaker 3: because now we've got all these five-star reviews from our listeners,
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  Speaker 3: which are very nice. The cost is too damn high.
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  Speaker 3: Who pays $ 28. 49 for a Kindle book? Sorry, lady, I
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  Speaker 3: don't set the prices. Paul writing in, one star, don't
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  Speaker 3: waste your money. It's only single ply. Actually, it's quadruple ply.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very thick book. It makes for very expensive
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  Speaker 3: toilet paper, and it's only single ply. By the way, Paul,
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  Speaker 3: it's his I-T apostrophe S. Indy Schilling says, more oligarch trash.
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  Speaker 3: Is this a book about Trump's Russian golden showers? Who
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  Speaker 3: reads this garbage? Seven people actually found that review helpful.
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  Speaker 3: Pete writing in, one-star review. Todd, Trump wrote this nonsense.
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  Speaker 15: With.
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  Speaker 3: Seven weeping emojis. I'm not sure what to make of that,
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  Speaker 3: but anyway. And Financial Advisor says, this book is a
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  Speaker 3: boot-licking book of lies. Eight people found that helpful. So
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  Speaker 3: there you go. If you want to give us a
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• 20:14
  Speaker 3: the way, I want to give a big shout out
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: to the Tennessee Association of Broadcasters. I am proudly serving
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: on the board of directors. So this morning at 8 o'clock,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: every radio station in the state of Tennessee played Dolly
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Parton's I Will Always Love You as a statewide tribute.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: And of course, we had a lot of motorists we
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: asked to turn their headlights on. And I know as
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I was driving in this morning in the broad daylight hours,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of folks were riding around with their headlights
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: on in honor of the late, great Dolly Parton. So
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: thank you for that. And also, Dylan, I don't know
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: if you saw this, the Hernando de Soto Bridge, that big,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: huge M, the bridge that has the big M, was
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: lit up in pink last night.
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: I did. I did notice that. Super cool.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome. We put a photo of it over
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: on our Instagram page, so you might want to go
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: and check that out. All right. Welcome back, everybody. This
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: is the Todd Stearns Radio Show. A lot going on.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: I want to bring into the conversation our good friend.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: She is the chief executive officer and the president of
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Concerned Women for America, Penny Nance. Penny, always good to
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: have you on the show.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Todd. Great to be with you. And boy,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: I join you all in mourning Dolly Parton. I actually
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: grew up. Near Sevierville, where she was from originally, she
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: did great work for the people there, just a really
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: big heart and a big personality and a great talent.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Well, an incredible talent, and it's remarkable. She and her
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: late husband, Carl Dean, lived in Brentwood, south of Nashville,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and just the traffic jam outside of her home, people
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: just wanting to drive by and pay their respects in Sevierville.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: At the square there, they have that beautiful statue of
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Dolly sitting on a rock playing the guitar and all
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: sorts of memorials and everything, people just coming out. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: don't think there's going to be another one like Dolly,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: No, the world is a less happy and talented place
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: without her.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Well said, well said. Penny, the reason we brought you
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: on today, big, big news involving Meta and TikTok and
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: this $ 17 billion deal. META settlement that is what they
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: say is going to help protect kids online. I know
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you guys have been all over this particular issue. Do
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: you think that's enough? And is META doing the right
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: thing here?
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: Well, I think definitely META is doing the right thing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: And if you kind of take a look at what
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: they have agreed to, it's definitely steps in the right direction.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: But it's not as if kids are only on meta platforms.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: They're not on Facebook. Some of them are on Instagram,
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: but they're very fluent in TikTok and Snapchat and YouTube
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: and many, many different platforms. So we need to see
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: this kind of determination growing. from all the platforms for
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: them to all come together and recognize that, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: kids are special. Yes, we have a First Amendment right.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: But when you're under the age of, well, I have
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: some stats here. Kids 8 to 12 are spending five
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: and a half hours online per day in the United States.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: And 13 to 18, they're spending eight and a half
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: hours online in the United States. So they're not just
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: staying on one platform. They're migrating over to one or
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: other And parents need better ability to control their kids.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: It's very, very difficult. And, you know, the platforms have
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: made it difficult for them. And, you know, the constant
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: barrage of messaging and not all of it good that
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: has gone into kids. But now Meta has agreed to
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: let parents have greater control of the algorithm, excuse me,
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: And limit the daily use. I mean, that's a huge thing.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Down to a couple hours a day versus the five
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: and a half that I said, the eight to 12
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: year olds, which that does seem like an easier group
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: to like keep check on. But then you get the
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: 13 to 18 year olds doing eight and a half hours.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: Like this is nonsense. We've got to get better control
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: of the situation. And, you know, we favor legislation, the
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: Kids Online Safety Act. and the App Store Accountability Act,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: which requires that parents allow the downloading of different apps
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: onto the kids' phones. So this is very important work.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: I appreciate the step in the right direction, but there's
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: a lot more to do.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: You know, it's mind-boggling to know what kids are being
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: exposed to. And I remember back in the day when
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: you actually had to have a college email address to
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: even open a Facebook account. I mean, that's how Facebook
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: got started. And then there were all these conversations about, okay,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: how old should a person be before they can get
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: a Facebook account? And I'm wondering, again, if that's even
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: going to be enough with what these kids are being
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: exposed to on social media platforms.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: Well, parents need to agree that they are allowed to
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: have them and then set parameters of what they should
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: be and be exposed to. We know that pornography is
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: rampant online. And even if kids don't go looking for it,
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: it goes looking for them. So earlier and earlier exposure
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: is happening. Again, all the messaging, all the influencers selling
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: them things they don't need or shouldn't have, all the
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: different apps to change the way you look and to
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: make everything look like perfection, which it's not. I mean,
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: we all do that a little bit, right? I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: I've edited photos and also, you know, on Facebook early
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: days when it was all a bunch of moms, it
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: was kids first and they've gone away from Facebook. Now
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: it's a bunch of moms. You only show the perfect
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: pictures of the family vacation, not the one in which
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: people are fighting and the kids are misbehaving and everybody's grouchy.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: The place is a mess. You don't show that. You
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: don't show the messy parts of life. And so adults
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: have trouble recognizing the reality of the situation. Of course,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: kids don't know that they're not the only ones with
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: blemishes and that their life isn't perfect and their parents
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: don't always understand them and sometimes bad things happen. But
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: there's this fake world online that kids are allowed too
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: much time to engage with. Now, listen, there's good things
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: that have come from this as well. And I don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: want to sound like, you know, the person that is
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: completely out of touch. And I would say the same
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: about AI. There's important things that advantages that we have
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: to know how to use these things properly. But there
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: has to be really a big wall of protection around
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: our kids and using them. And it's just a mistake.
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: for parents not to be fully aware of what their
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: kids are doing, what they're looking at, and also like
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: what the traps are in AI and all these other
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: things so that they can be responsible for their own children.
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: But it's not easy.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: No, it's not. And you're telling me, Penny Nance, that
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: these 16 and 17-year-olds, they really don't have their own
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: private jets that they're flying off to these exotic locations?
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you told me because I was starting
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: to feel bad about myself.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: I needed only designer purses, Todd. I don't understand. Why
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: don't I have a private jet and designer purse? Apparently,
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: everybody does.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Who knew? I'm too old school. That's my problem here, Penny,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: because You know, back when I was growing up, of course,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: we had the landline, and that was it. And if
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you were lucky, your parents got you one of those,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know, 70-foot-long cords where you could maybe have
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: privacy by taking the phone into your bedroom or wherever. But,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you know, nowadays— They knew.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: Who was calling because they were answering the phone, right?
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: So they knew who you were interacting with. And, again, like,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: you know, online world has given us at our fingertips
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: information about that you and I would have, you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: in middle school and high school, had gone to the
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: library to get and would only have what was there
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: available in that particular library. So our ability to learn
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: and grow has immensely changed. For women, it's changed our
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: ability of where we have to work. We don't have
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: to go into an office anymore. We can work from
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: home and have better ability to be there with our
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: kids and see what's going on from a day-to-day basis.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Remote work has been an incredible boost to women. enabling
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: them to do more of what they want to do
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: with their time and have more time parenting. So that's
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: a great step in the right direction for women and families. However,
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: as we've already said, there's many drawbacks, many traps, many dangers.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: And it is definitely up to parents to know what
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: those are to be on top of things. but they
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: don't need the companies undercutting them and going around them.
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: And that's the thing. I've talked to AI companies about that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: You don't get in between a parent and their children.
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: As long as you're not doing that, it's going to
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: be okay and it's going to go well. But the
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: minute you start getting between a parent and their child,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: sending them information that is not age appropriate, then we've
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: got a problem.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you folks are all over this at
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Concerned Women for America. Penny, we always appreciate you coming
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: on the show. And this is something that every parent,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: every grandparent in America needs to pay very close attention to. Penny,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: good to see you, my friend.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Todd. God bless.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: All right. God bless. Well, there you go. You know, Dylan,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I knew we were living in a whole different world
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: when you got engaged and all of the women in
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: the Starnes-Dandridge families were gathered in the kitchen. They had
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: their heads in their phones, and it turns out they
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: were tracking you. They were tracking where you were as
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: you were going to propose marriage. To the future Mrs. Producer.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: This is very true. One of the main things about
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: proposing to someone is they are not supposed to know.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: So she still had her location on. Obviously, I didn't. But,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: you know, they were just tracking her the entire time.
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: So they knew.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I was stunned. I'm like, what are you people doing?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Go away. Go into the den.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: We're busy.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Something very bad is going on in that kitchen.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Or very good.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, my Lord. I just, you know, I do wonder though,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what age and Dylan, you're going to have to come
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: to terms with, I mean, if, look, here's the thing.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: You don't even know what your kids are going to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: have access to by the time you guys have kids
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: and they become teenagers.
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: I'm definitely starting to think about that, especially with like
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: AI and, you know, all the virtual reality stuff. Like
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: who knows what it's really going to be like in the,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: in the next few years or so. But yeah, I mean,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: I've already set my cutoff date. Like my, my kid's
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: not getting a phone anytime soon. Like it's going to be,
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: At least high school age or middle of high school.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: You do wonder, you know, is it better to, and
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if they've done a study here,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: but maybe they need to. Let's just say, is it
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: better to not even expose kids to social media until
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: they become teenagers? You know, let them almost have this
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: innocent life, you know, where they're not allowed to get online.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you know, they're not, you know, they're actually forced to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: read a book. There has been a study done where
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: you retain more knowledge reading a physical book than you
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: do something online. So I'm wondering, maybe would the country
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: be better off if we put into, you know, put
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: in these safety mechanisms where kids were not exposed to
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: this stuff? Because I think a lot of kids, I
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: think people would be very surprised at how young kids
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: are on social media.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: I think you're exactly right. And I think I mean,
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: obviously we've seen with the education system, kids don't know
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: how to read or write and it's because they're not
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: given books, they're given laptops and then they're given a
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: summary of the book instead of actual books. So it's like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: I almost wish that I was given more parameters as
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: a kid because I grew up in the social media
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: age and I just, you know, I fell into that
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: trap of just scrolling, you know, early on. So I
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: don't want that to be a part of my kids'
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: lives for sure.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's, well, and that's a good thing, I think. Yeah,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: but again, now though, I think the bigger problem is
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: you've got moms. So you actually have a generation of
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: young moms that were raised on social media, and they
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: want their kids to pop and be popular on campus.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And a lot of these schools now are starting to ban.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: What is it? Marshall Blackburn, running for governor of Tennessee,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: wants to ban kids from having cell phones in school.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: And look, I completely agree with that. But what if
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: my child needs to reach out to me? Well, you
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: know what? There's a phone in the office.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Presumably. Do they still have landlines in the schools?
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Those are old buildings.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, there's no reason for your child to
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: need a phone during school hours. And parent, you can
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: do without a hearing for your child. I mean, my
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: parents did that. You know, I mean, that's unheard of.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And basically, most kids wanted to escape from home for
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: those hours in school.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: That's fair enough.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Sorry, moms, but it's true. All right. 901-260-5926, our telephone number.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: That's 901-260-5926. Where do you draw the line when it
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: comes to social media? We'll be right back. All right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: watching the closing remarks here in the murder trial of
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy. She's the Massachusetts woman what strangled all three
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: of her young children. I mean, tiny little what the youngest, what,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: eight months old. And her attorney got up and told
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the jury that Lindsay was a really great mom. Well,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you, sir, but great
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: mothers do not kill their children. Those would be monsters.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: So the prosecution, laying all of this out, and I
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: think they've done a terrific job here, they're saying, just
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: think about this. And she wanted the Americans to think
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: like the children were thinking and how horrified they must
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: have been as their own mother was strangling them, killing them.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: She said, just think of that, that being strangled and
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: the pain and the confusion they're going through, and it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: being done by their own mother. Their mother is the
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: one that's hurting them. Their mother is the one that's
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: killing them. They said it was extreme atrocity and cruelty.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: And you've got hundreds, if not thousands, of women across
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: America who who are actually defending this woman. I want
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: you to listen. This is... All right, well, we don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: have this audio, but I do want to play Lisa
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: Poof on Fox News, cut number 30.
• 35:47
  Speaker 16: I think what this says about society is we don't
• 35:49
  Speaker 16: value human life. I don't know if it's because we've
• 35:52
  Speaker 16: reduced children to a clump of cells on issues like
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: abortion or what the root evil of that is, but
• 35:58
  Speaker 16: that's what I've learned from this. And you know, Ainsley,
• 35:59
  Speaker 16: I hear you when you say that no mother, unless
• 36:02
  Speaker 16: she's crazy, could strangle her children to death. But you
• 36:05
  Speaker 16: look at all those women that we've seen outside, lined
• 36:08
  Speaker 16: up outside of the courthouse, celebrating her, supporting her on TikTok.
• 36:12
  Speaker 16: So I think there's a lot of crazy people out there. Unfortunately,
• 36:15
  Speaker 16: I don't need a jury to tell me that she's evil.
• 36:18
  Speaker 16: When you take your three children and systematically strangle them
• 36:21
  Speaker 16: to death with an exercise band after you sent your
• 36:23
  Speaker 16: husband away. Cora was five. She liked taking care of people.
• 36:27
  Speaker 16: She loved princesses. Dawson was three. He was rambunctious, silly.
• 36:31
  Speaker 16: He loved Paw Patrol. Callan was just eight months old.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: A baby.
• 36:36
  Speaker 16: And she strangled each of them to death. So, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 16: I'm sorry. My sympathy and my heart is with the
• 36:41
  Speaker 16: children that she admitted to killing. And I think the
• 36:44
  Speaker 16: fact that there are so many people supporting her as
• 36:46
  Speaker 16: a society shows us that there's a lot of evil
• 36:49
  Speaker 16: in our society that we need to root out. It's
• 36:51
  Speaker 16: not healthy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: So now the jury, it's in the hands of the jury.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: And here's here's the choices they've got. They can find
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: this woman guilty of first degree murder. second-degree murder, manslaughter,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: or not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: That's the insanity plea. Or they could just find her
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: not guilty. So you're on the jury here. What do
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: you do? What do you do, ladies and gentlemen? What
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: would you decide to do with Lindsay Clancy if you
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: were on that jury? But again, her attorney calling her a, quote,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: darn good mother who just happened to kill her kids.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: And by the way, that is not in dispute, right?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: So the defense readily admits that she did what she did.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: That's not the issue for them. They're claiming that this
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: was some sort of a psychosis, so she had some
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: sort of a psychotic break. But again, there's absolutely no
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: evidence to back that up. So what do you do?
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: You're on the jury. How does this play for you? 901-260-5926,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. By the way, be sure,
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  Speaker 3: A very bizarre story involving the Girl Scouts. And the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Girl Scouts have been in the throes of a culture
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: war for, gosh, at least a couple of decades now.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And it has not been a good thing. As a
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: matter of fact, thousands and thousands of moms have pulled
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: their young girls, their daughters, out of Girl Scouts. And
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: many have joined an incredible organization called American Heritage Girls.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: We've told you about them in the past. We've had
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: the folks on to talk about the incredible programs there.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But we are very concerned about the latest controversy involving
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the Islamification of the Girl Scouts. And I want to
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: bring into the conversation my good friend Patty Garibay, who
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: is the founder of American Heritage Girls. Patty, it has
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: been way too long. I hope you're doing well.
• 41:24
  Speaker 15: I'm doing great, Todd. It's good to be with you again.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Patty, I just cannot get over this. Apparently, the Girl
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Scouts have been promoting Islamic values. What's going on? What
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: have you heard?
• 41:39
  Speaker 15: Well, honestly, the Girl Scouts have been promoting Islamic values
• 41:43
  Speaker 15: for a long time in regards to their religious recognitions
• 41:48
  Speaker 15: that they have allowed. And Scouting America, or the former
• 41:52
  Speaker 15: Boy Scouts of America, I feel like I'm talking about
• 41:53
  Speaker 15: Prince here, you know, usually known as, But anyway, they
• 41:59
  Speaker 15: also do this. But here's the clincher, Todd, that's really
• 42:02
  Speaker 15: freaking me out about this is the fact that they
• 42:04
  Speaker 15: are encouraging girls of the Islamic faith to invite others
• 42:10
  Speaker 15: to the mosque to learn about wearing hijab, to be
• 42:14
  Speaker 15: able to be part of the whole Islamic revolution that's
• 42:18
  Speaker 15: happening in this country. And that's the concern I have
• 42:21
  Speaker 15: because this isn't about cultural understanding. It seems to be
• 42:24
  Speaker 15: more about religious indoctrination. And that is so the Girl
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: Scouts MO these days. Todd, we've talked about all these
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: different issues that have gone on, as you mentioned, over
• 42:34
  Speaker 15: the three or four decades that this has been going on.
• 42:36
  Speaker 15: This is just the latest. It seems to be chic
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: these days to be Islamic. You know, I have a concern.
• 42:42
  Speaker 15: By the year 2050, it is considered that in America, Islamic,
• 42:47
  Speaker 15: the Muslim faith will be second to Christianity. And it
• 42:51
  Speaker 15: is sort of a chic thing to do for kids now.
• 42:53
  Speaker 15: So it used to be Wiccan. And now it's Islam.
• 42:56
  Speaker 15: So we have to be very careful about what we're
• 42:58
  Speaker 15: exposing our kids to.
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  Speaker 3: Patty, I was looking at an image, and this was
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: taken straight from the Girl Scouts website, where they had,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: I think, seven or eight young girls wearing Islamic-themed Girl
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Scout uniforms complete with head coverings. I mean, do they
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: not understand, does Girl Scout leadership not understand what that
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: head covering represents?
• 43:23
  Speaker 15: It is very perplexing. When you consider how many Muslims
• 43:26
  Speaker 15: we have in this country, 50% of them agree with
• 43:29
  Speaker 15: Sharia law. And Sharia law is not empowering to women
• 43:33
  Speaker 15: by the least. So what are the Girl Scouts doing? Again,
• 43:37
  Speaker 15: it's an oxymoron. They continue to baffle me.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Patty, when you look at what's happening out there across
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: America with the attacks on young girls, with the transgender movement,
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: girls in sports, How important is it to have an
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: organization like American Heritage Girls that is exclusively for young ladies?
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: It is so important. Girls today want to know what's
• 44:02
  Speaker 15: right and wrong. They want to know what a woman is.
• 44:05
  Speaker 15: They don't want this confusion. Kids don't deserve confusion. And
• 44:09
  Speaker 15: that's what the Girl Scouts really are propagating is confusion.
• 44:13
  Speaker 15: So if you want clarity and you want to know
• 44:15
  Speaker 15: what you're going to be involved with for your daughter,
• 44:18
  Speaker 15: American Heritage Girls has always been transparent about what we
• 44:21
  Speaker 15: stand for. The reason that we were founded was because
• 44:24
  Speaker 15: the Girl Scouts kicked God out of the Girl Scout
• 44:27
  Speaker 15: promise and therefore kicked God out of their programming. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 15: it is important for us as the primary disciples of
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: our children to know what we're involved with. And the
• 44:36
  Speaker 15: Girl Scouts is not your mother's Girl Scouts anymore.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I want you to, I'm just shocked by this, but again,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: they took God out of the oath.
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 44:49
  Speaker 15: In 1993, that's why American Heritage Girls was started. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: they said the reason they were doing this was to
• 44:55
  Speaker 15: be more inclusive, to allow for Muslim girls to be
• 44:58
  Speaker 15: able to put the word Allah in. Little did we
• 45:01
  Speaker 15: know there was a lawsuit from atheists that were really
• 45:04
  Speaker 15: pushing this agenda. So there's always a reason behind the curtain.
• 45:07
  Speaker 15: You know, come out out of the curtain, Girl Scouts.
• 45:10
  Speaker 15: Now we know that you're pro-Islam. We know that you're pro-transgender.
• 45:13
  Speaker 15: We know that you're pro-planned parenthood. What next are you
• 45:16
  Speaker 15: going to be pro?
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Look, it's a great question. And this is why, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you, as you could probably tell,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I was a big fan of the Girl Scout cookies
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: back in the day. I can't even bring myself to
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: purchase a box of cookies because I'm afraid that that
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: money is going to be used to further some sort
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: of a woke agenda.
• 45:37
  Speaker 15: Todd, you have great concern there, and you should. Those
• 45:40
  Speaker 15: Thin Mints should never pass your lips. They have not
• 45:42
  Speaker 15: passed mine in over three decades, all right? And the
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: reason being, Only 50 to 60 cents of that box
• 45:48
  Speaker 15: of cookies, which are now what, five to six bucks,
• 45:50
  Speaker 15: go to the girl themselves in their troop. The rest
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: goes to this agenda, as well as the membership fees
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: for the Girl Scouts USA, which have skyrocketed in cost,
• 46:00
  Speaker 15: by the way, because of their hemorrhaging of membership. You
• 46:04
  Speaker 15: know what they say, if you go woke, you go broke,
• 46:06
  Speaker 15: and that's what's happening to the Girl Scouts USA.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: So I have to imagine there are a lot of
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: moms in the audience and they're listening. Maybe they didn't
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: know what was going on with the Girl Scouts. They
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: haven't heard of American Heritage Girls. So what are they
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: going to discover if they go to AmericanHeritageGirls.org? What's the
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: difference between the organizations?
• 46:27
  Speaker 15: First and foremost, they will find that the foundation is
• 46:30
  Speaker 15: on Christ, Jesus Christ, the solid rock. That is what
• 46:34
  Speaker 15: we stand upon. In addition, they're going to find all
• 46:37
  Speaker 15: the best things that scouting did afford. And that is
• 46:40
  Speaker 15: leadership development and life skills, merit badge acquisition, the love
• 46:44
  Speaker 15: of the out of doors and being able to really
• 46:46
  Speaker 15: serve others and be good citizens. All that good stuff
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: that was wholesome in the Girl Scouts of the four mentioned,
• 46:54
  Speaker 15: they're still called Girl Scouts USA. Hey, we got to
• 46:56
  Speaker 15: give them credit there, Todd. At least they didn't change
• 46:58
  Speaker 15: your name, but they sure have changed what they're about.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: And it's really sad, Patty. And of course, we're big
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: supporters of both American Heritage Girls and Trail Life USA.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: And these organizations, honestly, are the saving grace, I think,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: for children across the country. What are the numbers looking
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: like these days?
• 47:21
  Speaker 15: We continue to grow every year. Almost nearly 80,000 members
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: in 1,300 churches across the U.S., all 50 states, eight
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: international countries. The Lord is blessing this program. Over a
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: million girls have been through it during their lifetime. So
• 47:35
  Speaker 15: this is really, we're seeing fruit now, adult members that
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: are also now leaders when they were kiddos back in
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: the day. So this has been a blessing to be
• 47:44
  Speaker 15: part of.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I love it. Before we let you go though, again,
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: what is the warning here about the Girl Scouts? And
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: you might have folks saying, okay, what's the big deal
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: that they're promoting Islam?
• 47:56
  Speaker 15: Well, You may think that, and that could be true
• 47:59
  Speaker 15: for your family, but you need to know that you
• 48:01
  Speaker 15: don't have to put up with the Girl Scouts and
• 48:03
  Speaker 15: their wavering truths. You can come to American Heritage Girls
• 48:08
  Speaker 15: and enjoy all those things you did as a young girl,
• 48:11
  Speaker 15: but know that they will stay solid to what they
• 48:13
  Speaker 15: stand for. They will not be promoting cultural trends that
• 48:17
  Speaker 15: are just as weak as could be, but they will
• 48:19
  Speaker 15: be about what Jesus was about, what God is about,
• 48:22
  Speaker 15: and they will understand perfectly Girls, who they are and
• 48:25
  Speaker 15: whose they are, their identity in Christ through a whole
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: lot of fun and friends.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: I love that. Patty, it's always good to see you.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Don't be a stranger. And congratulations on the great success
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: of American Heritage Girls.
• 48:40
  Speaker 15: Thank you, Todd. God bless you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: All right. Great lady right there. A bold warrior for
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Christianity and also for America. And we certainly appreciate the
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: great work. American Heritage Girls is doing. By the way,
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: that website address, again, we'll try to get that up
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: on the screen for you, AmericanHeritageGirls.org. That's AmericanHeritageGirls.org. And wow,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: just a shocker there, the Girl Scouts going to Islam.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Who would have thought? All right, we're going to take
• 49:13
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• 49:15
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• 49:19
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• 49:22
  Speaker 3: ought to happen to her? She killed her three kids.
• 49:26
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  Speaker 3: Go to the beautiful mountain paradise of Dahlonega, Georgia. Anna
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: is listening to us on WDUN. Hi, Anna, what's on
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: your mind today?
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, Todd.
• 50:34
  Speaker 10: That girl's been being tried.
• 50:37
  Speaker 12: Here's what I don't understand.
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: She admitted guilt. Next thing is, what are you going
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: to do to her? The other thing is, more importantly,
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: those babies, she could have.
• 50:55
  Speaker 10: If she felt like she was in trouble and her
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: husband knew she was in trouble, why didn't they... Bring
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: the baby somewhere else, like to her family or his family.
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: He's married again. He was married four months after.
• 51:10
  Speaker 12: He was divorced.
• 51:12
  Speaker 10: So those are his children, and he believes there's something
• 51:16
  Speaker 10: wrong with his former wife. Take the baby.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Take him.
• 51:22
  Speaker 10: A lot of this stuff doesn't add up to me.
• 51:27
  Speaker 12: Very unfortunate.
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: But my heart is with the kids. Those little babies
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: were watching each other being strangled by their very mother.
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: That is obscene to me. And I don't have any.
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: I don't... I have no problem with her.
• 51:51
  Speaker 12: With the death penalty.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: So, Anna, here's the part that just is so egregious about...
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: According to testimony in the case, it took her roughly
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: four to five minutes to strangle each of the children.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Four to five minutes.
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: Oh, that is an eternity for them.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're so afraid.
• 52:16
  Speaker 10: The little kids go to their parents when they're afraid.
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: And the very person that should have protected them was
• 52:23
  Speaker 10: the person who killed them for not one reason. And
• 52:28
  Speaker 10: I don't care if she has problems with her son.
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: The only thing I care about is those babies that
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: aren't here anymore. And nobody stepped up to the plate
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: to protect them, including their father. So, you know, I
• 52:43
  Speaker 10: don't know.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: It's not good. Well, no, it's not good, Anna. It's
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: not good at all. And if it were up to me,
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, she already admitted to killing the children. If
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: the verdict is guilty today, I would just take her outside,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: take her to the firing squad, and be done with it.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Immediate death penalty. If you confess to killing somebody, all right,
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: you're guilty as charged, boom, you're gone. That's it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: Well, and what other reason would you find better than
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: that to render her their death penalty? You know, we
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: really had better get it together in this country. There's
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: a lot of other things that have happened to people
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: that would render a death penalty. But we are so.
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: We don't... We're just not grown up. We're just not...
• 53:41
  Speaker 10: We just don't understand and don't want to understand. Everybody is...
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: Everybody is.
• 53:51
  Speaker 11: innocent.
• 53:53
  Speaker 10: And they're not. And this is a perfect example of
• 53:57
  Speaker 10: having children that really need somebody to look out for
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: them and they didn't.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Anna, thank you for the call and thank you for
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: listening today. 901-260-5926 is our number. Dylan, this story from
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: the Today Show. A gas station for farts. Okay. Turns
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: out that a Georgia elementary school teacher, she's from Atlanta.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Her name is Candy Sidney Browning. She's got one of
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: the hyphenated names. She is a 36-year-old second-grade teacher, and
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: she has designated a corner of her classroom where students
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: can go if they need to pass gas.
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: How big is this room? That's the first question I have.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, I mean, what good does that do? Because,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the odor can, dare I say, waft.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: Why don't you just open the door and let them
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: go out in the hall and do that?
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Or better yet, just crack a window and have them
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: stick their butt out the window.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: That would be way better.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: The butt crack and the window crack.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, having a corner, that lingers there.
• 55:07
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: You don't want to even walk past that.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: No, and it's probably going to discolor the paint on
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: the wall, too.
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: And what about the kid that sits back there in
• 55:14
  Speaker 6: the corner? Oh, God.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: They get some of that, too.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Miss Browning says she calls it the gas station. It's
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: a specific spot where kids go for, quote, gusty winds.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: There is also air freshener spray nearby.
• 55:31
  Speaker 13: Oh, good.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: She said... telling the today show, I have a very
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: weak stomach, so I can't take it. And so I was,
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: so basically the kids were passing gas like in her,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: in their seats and she could smell it. And so
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: she wanted it as far away as possible.
• 55:49
  Speaker 13: Sure.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: What gets me is the today show spent about 1200
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: words on this story. That's more than I think nine
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: 11 got.
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: That's sad.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: So she posted all of this on Tik TOK showing
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the corner and, and explaining how it works. Oh, boy.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: Did she do it herself?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Beans, beans, the magical fruits, as they say. One commenter wrote,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: this is genius, and normalizing body functions without disturbing the
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: classroom is amazing. You see, I got a problem with this.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think we ought to be normalizing this bodily function.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: I also think it absolutely disturbs the classroom functionality.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Well, of course.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: You see a kid get up and slowly walk into
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: the corner of the room.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, everybody's going to watch.
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: And also, what happens if it's more than a fart?
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, what happens if it's like a wet fart?
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. It's a great question. One commenter said and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: asked a question. And the rest of the class stays
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: focused while somebody's farting in the corner? Really? I don't
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: know about that. I don't know. All right, got to
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: take a break. What do you think about the fart corner?
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: 901-260-5926.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go real quick to Gainesville, Georgia. Angie,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: listening to us on WDUN. All right, Angie, what do
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: you make of this classroom situation here with the gas station,
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: as they're calling it?
• 57:32
  Speaker 17: Well, I'm going to get ringing for this, and I'm
• 57:34
  Speaker 17: going to get yelled at, Todd, and I'm so glad
• 57:36
  Speaker 17: you're back, and we're doing so much praying for you.
• 57:39
  Speaker 17: Stay healthy.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 57:41
  Speaker 17: I think it ought to be a law that it
• 57:45
  Speaker 17: ought to take place in U.S. Congress and the U.S.
• 57:50
  Speaker 17: because they all talk out their rear end, and they
• 57:53
  Speaker 17: need to smell what they're spewing out.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Angie, that's messed up.
• 58:06
  Speaker 17: I told you I was going to get room for it.
• 58:10
  Speaker 17: I agree with it wholeheartedly, but it ought to be
• 58:14
  Speaker 17: government mandatory for the Congress and the Senate for those
• 58:17
  Speaker 17: who are really talking out their rear end.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Angie, a brilliant idea, my friend. You never let us down.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in. All right, 901-260-5926, our telephone number.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: That's 901-260-5926. Well, we are just always excited on Thursdays
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: to welcome one of our great new partners, from Movement Mortgage.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Harlan Akula is the Reverse Mortgage Director at Movement Mortgage.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: And again, this is all about helping you get ready
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: for retirement and making sure that you and your family
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: are going to be set. Harlan is also the author
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: of a great book that you can get for free
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: called Home Equity and Reverse Mortgages, The Cinderella of the
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Baby Boomer Retirement. Harlan, hope you're doing well today.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
• 59:09
  Speaker 13: How's everything going?
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: For you, Todd?
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Good, good, good. And I think we ought to give
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: out the website address here, movement.com slash Starnes. Again, that's
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: movement.com slash Starnes. So Harlan, you know, we hear a
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: lot about reverse mortgages, and I think you guys have
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: done a brilliant job of explaining what they are now.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: It's not what they used to be. But I am
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: wondering why so many people hate reverse mortgage and they
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: actually ignore that as a part of their retirement package
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: and plan.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: Well, it's one of the most frustrating things we deal with.
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of your listeners, thousands of them, that
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: tuned out as soon as you said the words reverse mortgage.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: And that's weird because people don't automatically tune out just
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: when they hear about mutual fund, even though people have
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: been ripped off by different types of investment schemes from
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: time to time. But because of the fact that things
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: did not work well in the past on some loans
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: and some dishonest companies and people, we automatically get tossed
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: in and they throw the baby out with the bathwater.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: But it really goes deeper than that, Todd.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: The issue is this.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: When we have been taught, especially more so in the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Christian audience that I'm a part of, we have been
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: taught that debt is evil and debt is bad and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: get rid of it as quickly as possible because you'll
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: be better off. And that is true when it comes
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: to credit card debt and some of those other things.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: And so we equate safety in our house with not
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: having a mortgage. And we never even think about, well,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: just a minute, If I have a mortgage and I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: don't have to pay it and it's safe and it's
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: guaranteed contractually and legally, maybe I should just check it out.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: And so they put us in with all of the
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: other debt and just simply say debt is bad. Reverse
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: mortgage is our debt. So let's throw it out without
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: saying understanding what it's about. So many people say they
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: don't know what they're saying no to is what it
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: comes down to.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: And again, a lot of people also think, well, this
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: is only for poor people, but that's not the case, right?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: Well, no, I don't consider myself poor. I'm still working.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: I have money in savings and I have a reverse mortgage.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: I have had it for four years already because I'm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: using it specifically for tax benefits and helping my kids
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: and my grandkids. So it is true that anybody out there,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: like a lady I just talked to who has nothing
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: in savings, and is running up her credit cards just
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: to pay for food, we want to help those people.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: So I don't want to at all set them aside.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: We want to help people that are in a difficult position.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: But it goes beyond that. There are so many people
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: that can have a better retirement, help their kids, help
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: their church, help their foundations, if they use some of
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: the money that's inside their house that they're creating wealth
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: from the last 20, 30, 40 years.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Is this true that it should only be used as
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: a last resort?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: No, that is certainly what a lot of financial advisors say.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: People that are just ignorant of the new scenarios, the
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: tax benefits, the research that's been done even in the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: last five, 10 years. That is something that's been repeated
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: so many times that people just believe it, like the
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: sky is blue. Nobody thinks twice about that. So when
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: somebody says, well, that's a last resort, that's the last
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: thing you do, We can help people that need it
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: as a last resort. We did one in North Dakota
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: for somebody that was a couple, 101, 102. But it's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: better to use it early mathematically instead of using it late.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Again, we're excited to talk to our good friend Harlan
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Akala from Movement Mortgage. And Harlan is the reverse mortgage director.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I want you to write down this number 580-REVERSE. That's 580-REVERSE.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Or you can go to their website, movement.com slash stearns.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: they're not going to hard sell you anything. This is
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: about getting information and starting the information process. Harlan, a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: lot of people say, well, you know what? Where there
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: is smoke, there's fire. There's got to be a reason
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: why these reverse mortgages have had such a bad reputation
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: in the past. Well, it's true.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: I mean, it was largely unregulated up until the 90s.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: So a lot of widows got kicked out of houses there.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: There were issue with spousal protections where a husband could
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: take out a loan without telling his wife. And then
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: she got kicked out when the husband died, which wasn't
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: the fault of the program. It was the fault of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: a foolish husband. But there were definitely times when people
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: were hurt because it was misused. That's a chapter in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: my book, Drugs, Sex, and Reverse Mortgages. Drugs can save
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: your life. They can kill.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: You with an overdose.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Sex can obviously be good or can be evil. It's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: the same thing with reverse mortgages. They have been misused.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: And we explain to people exactly how and why. And
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: sometimes we caution people not to use it if they're
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: using it for incorrect things like sending money to a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Nigerian email or something.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: You don't want to do that.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: We've had that happen, believe it or not.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: So they want to take out a mortgage just to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: send to a romantic interest in Nigeria. So there are
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: ways that anything can be used incorrectly and why you
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: need to deal with a reputable company that is going
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: to tell you the positives and the negatives, the costs,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: everything that goes together.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm curious if you guys have been able to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: run these numbers, what percentage of people do you think
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: could benefit from this particular product?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy, Todd. There's 72 million people over
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: the age of 62 in the baby boomer category.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: 92%.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: Of the homeowners, which is 80% of the 72 million
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: own homes, 92% of them would be in a better position.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: Not that they need it, but 92% would be a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: better position tax-wise, net worth-wise, and of course, cashflow-wise if
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: they looked into.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: A reverse mortgage.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: But I implore your listeners, just check it out. This
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: is not about calling us and saying, yeah, I want
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: to do a reverse mortgage. You're a long ways from that.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: Just don't know what you're saying no to. Don't say
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: no before you know whether or not it can help
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: because what you don't know can hurt you.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: We all know that. Look, I think it's a great
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: way of looking at it. And again, folks, this is
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: not some sort of a hard sell. It really is
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: about getting the information process started and preparing yourself for
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: that day when this may be the move you need
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: to make. So again, go to movement.com slash darns. That's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: movement.com slash darns. Or pick up the phone and call 580-REVERSE.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: So Harlan... somebody calls that number, what's going to happen?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: Well, what we do is we set up an appointment
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: to just visit. We will not sell anything ever on
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: the first call. We won't even say that it's a
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: good idea to do it or a bad idea to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: do it. We gather information because this is one of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: the biggest assets that anybody has needs to be handled carefully.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: It's a big decision. So we have that discussion. We
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: send out after the discussion, we send out a copy
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: of the book. We call back in a week or so.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: I have set up another meeting and answer any other
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: questions if somebody wants to go to step two. So
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: it's certainly nothing that happens quickly. It's well thought out.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: And even if they don't get a reverse mortgage, you
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: know something, Todd, they learn a lot because we teach
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: them things about social security and about Medicare and Irma
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: and all of the other factors and how those things,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: it's very rare that we talk to somebody that they
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: don't learn something they didn't know before they called us.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: And that information along with the book is free.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 17: Well, yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: And look, you can't beat free ladies and gentlemen. So
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: be sure to take advantage of that and give Harlan
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: and his team a call 5 8 0 reverse. That's
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: 5 8 0 reverse or go to movement.com slash stars. Harlan,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: we're going to leave it there. Always great to see
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: you and hear from you, my friend.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: Thanks very much. Todd, keep doing your good work.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: All right. There you go. Ladies and gentlemen, I want
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: to give that number to you one more time and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: just be reassured. This is, This is not a hard sell, right?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: This is about getting information. 580-REVERSE. That's 580-REVERSE. Or go
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: to movement.com slash stars.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. Good to have you with us. So
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: I'm curious. How do you rank the presidents of the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: United States? If you told me right now, Todd, this
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: is who I believe the greatest president of the United
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: States is, who would that individual be? And I ask
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: that question because CNN actually did a poll on this,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: and I want you to listen to what they discovered.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: The president Republicans most admire is Donald Trump.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: This is a historic comparison.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: A majority of Republicans say 53% say he's the Republican
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: president they most admire. Ronald Reagan, who traditionally has won
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 9: that much. Donald Trump nearly triples up on this. Reagan
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 9: at just 18%. And then Abraham Lincoln, who by most
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: historic accounts is the greatest president of all time, But
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 9: Republicans say that the president that they most admire by
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: what is six, seven times as many, Donald John Trump
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 9: at 53 percent, easily crushing Abe Lincoln at 8 percent.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: And the Elon poll showed that he was the greatest
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: president as well, Donald.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: Wow. All right. So it's Donald Trump. Is that true,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen? Is that the president that you admire
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: the most? And if not, who do you admire the most?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: You know what? I want that guy's accent.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: I know, right?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay, Dylan. I have a question for you. Okay.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: Maybe I wouldn't want you to have it, actually.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: I want to be very, very quiet right now, but
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: this is as soft as I can go.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: It's kind of giving Bernie Sanders a little bit mixed
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: with Harry Enten.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do here. I need a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: bagel and a schmear. Somebody quick, get me a bagel
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: and a schmear. Maybe that'll calm me down. No, I
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: am calm. This is my lowest talking voice. Yeah, I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: probably couldn't do that.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you could work on it.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: I'll work on it. It's a work in progress. 901-260-5926,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. Which president do you admire
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: the most? So I want to play something. This is
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: for you good people in Oklahoma. And I don't know
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: what's going on down there in Oklahoma, which is, by
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: the way, the reddest state in the nation. There is
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: a woman by the name of Nikila Jasmine Thomas. And
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: she's a nut job. But she's also your nominee for
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Senate on the Democrat side of the aisle. So this woman,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, theoretically, this woman could end up winning a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: seat in Congress. And I've got to set the stage
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: for you. She posted this video of herself. barging into
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: her room, which is all pink. It's kind of weird
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: for a grown woman to basically have a child's bedroom,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: but whatever. And so she's cutting up a photograph of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: then-Senator Mark Wayne Mullen from Oklahoma. Take a listen.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Mark Wayne Mullen is a terrible senator. Do not vote
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: for him.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: He is a Christian nationalist, a mediocre white man.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, she's also a member of DSA in addition to
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: being a nut job. You know who she reminds me of? Dylan,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: did you ever have these girls in school, and they
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: were always crazy. You know they were like psycho crazy,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: and they would like gouge the eyes out of people
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: in the high school yearbook? Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's a pretty good description, actually.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: That's her. That's who that is.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: That's terrifying.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know what in the world is going on there.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: By the way, this woman's a nurse. Would you want
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: this woman jabbing you? No, that's a stab right there.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: She's like cutting him up with scissors.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: Yikes.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable. She becomes Oklahoma's first Democratic Socialist nominee. You know,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: she's the kind of woman that, God forbid she gets
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: married and has a husband, and the husband goes missing,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: you know he's not coming back. I mean, you hate
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: to say that, but, you know, that's just, that's kind
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: of who she is. That's a weird vibe. Anyway, there
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: you go. Who posts that kind of stuff on, I mean,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: it's just a strange video. Very strange. It kind of,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: she makes AOC look like, I don't know, Marsha Blackburn. No,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: that's a compliment, by the way. I just want to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: say that. So there you go. Yeah, good luck to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: you there, ma'am. Good luck to the good people of Oklahoma.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: This audio comes from a kindergarten teacher who now claims
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: half of her class wants to be a different gender.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Cut 25.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 14: So I'm a kindergarten teacher, and today was a really
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 14: good day. I sat my class down, and I said,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 14: show of hands, who wishes that they were born a
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 14: different gender? And I would say about half of the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 14: kids raised their hands. So for the kids that didn't
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 14: raise their hands, I said, okay, you guys are going
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 14: to have to go sit on the floor in the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 14: corner of the classroom over there and just be quiet.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 14: And so then what I did was I had everybody
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 14: come up to the board and write what name they
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 14: want to be called. And I said, it has to
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 14: be another name other than what you were already called.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 14: So like if the name Bob is on your birth certificate,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 14: you can't write Bob.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: On the board.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 14: Like you have to be given a new name. So
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 14: I had one kid come up and write Cookie. And
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 14: I said, okay, Cookie, what are your pronouns? Cookie was
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 14: pretty confused. And I said, do you want to be called.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: She, he, they, ze, zur? And Cookie said, zur.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 14: And I said, okay, listen up class, Cookie just picked
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 14: zur's pronouns. Everybody gives zur a round of applause.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: And then everybody gave zur a round of applause.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 14: Just really like showed me how important it is that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 14: we give youth the opportunity to identify themselves like this.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 14: And soon I plan on going to the school board
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 14: and asking them to let me have legal name and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 14: gender changes in my classroom every Friday. So hopefully that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 14: goes well. But, yeah, I just wanted to share.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'm sorry. Are we being pranked?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: I've been trying to figure this out this whole time.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Is this real?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: It's so ridiculous that I would not be surprised either way.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: Because the teacher looks like she could be a he.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: That's the funny part about it. Short hair.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: But with that voice.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: So are we being pranked? Here's the problem. The problem
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: is this could actually be real.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: Or it could be a prank.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 15: For sure.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Crazier things are happening in schools, I feel.
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  Speaker 3: Kid identifies as a cookie.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. If I was asked as a kid, I would
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  Speaker 6: do like Buzz Lightyear. I mean, you could literally say
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  Speaker 6: anything as.
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  Speaker 3: A kid at that point. She says, cookie, what are
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: your pronouns or your preferred pronouns? I would have said.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: I don't think they've learned pronouns yet.
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  Speaker 3: I would have said snicker and doodle. Snicker and doodle.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I would have said.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 3: All right. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. We're
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: going to hell in a handbasket. 901-260-5926, our telephone number.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Hour three of the big show coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Liberty University studio in Memphis, Tennessee, it's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: America's conservative blowtorch.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 15: That's us, that's right, our love is American, right.
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  Speaker 4: Todd Starnes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, hello everybody. Welcome to the Todd Starnes Radio Program.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: What an honor to have you with us today. Write
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: down our telephone number. You will need this if you
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: plan on calling into the program, 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. We've
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: been following the developments out of this Clancy case. Lindsay Clancy,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: the woman who killed her three kids, strangled them to death.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: They say it estimated between four to five minutes to
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: kill each of the children. And the jury now deciding
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: her fate. I will say this, that, again, she's confessed.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: It seems to me there was really no point in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: even having a trial at that point. You just get
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: a firing squad together and you dispatch her to the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: lake of fire. But that's just me. That's just me.
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  Speaker 3: So we'll be following that in case they come back
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  Speaker 3: with a verdict any time soon. In this particular case.
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  Speaker 3: This is her attorney, Kevin Reddington. Cut number 28, please.
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  Speaker 8: You know from looking at the objective evidence in this case,
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  Speaker 8: this young lady, believe me, I don't have many clients
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  Speaker 8: like that.
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  Speaker 4: This young lady.
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  Speaker 18: Did nothing wrong in her life. She was a nurse,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 18: a daughter, a wife. and a darn good mother. You
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  Speaker 18: can see from the objective evidence, you can see, and
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 18: you'll have all the exhibits for you to look at,
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  Speaker 18: and you can see by looking at these photographs, which
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 18: you will have in the jury room, you can see
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 18: the Facebook postings, you can see what she indicates about,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 18: for example, I just randomly grabbed this one, a son,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 18: my prince, that they would have you think she killed
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 18: him first, cruelly, because she didn't like him. That is repulsive.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what I find to be repulsive, sir, is the
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  Speaker 3: fact that your client actually strangled her three children to
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: death and took between, what, four to five minutes to
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: strangle each child. She was no good mother. That's all
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: you need to know about that, ladies and gentlemen. So anyway,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: we'll keep you updated. on any developments there. 901-260-5926 is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: our telephone number. There is a disturbing story out of California,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: Monterey County, North Monterey County, the unified school district there,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: where they're teaching the children ethnic studies. And some of
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: the things that the kids are being exposed to, insane stuff,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: critical race theory, whiteness, something called the wheel of power
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: and privilege. To help us understand exactly what's going on,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: we're just delighted to have with us Ryan Staley, Director
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: of Research at Defending Education. Ryan, good to have you
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  Speaker 3: with us today. Thank you for joining the radio show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Tom, for having me on.
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  Speaker 18: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Well, let's just jump right into all of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: this here. What did you guys discover was going on
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: at North Monterey County Unified School District?
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  Speaker 6: You know, we looked at.
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  Speaker 2: We had some parents share with us some information about
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: the district. They had been on our radar before, and
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  Speaker 2: what we found was this ethnic studies curriculum that they
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: just approved very recently. And when you look at the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: curriculum itself, what you're going to find is not just...
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: not just some atrocious stuff, things like critical race theory,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: which we had been told for years is not being
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  Speaker 2: taught to children in K-12 schools. If you remember years ago,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: anybody that said anything of that nature was considered a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: lunatic on the right because it's a law school thing, right?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: You have stuff like whiteness, which for your listening audience,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: kind of just to parse out the academic language, whiteness
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: is Western culture. So you want to keep it simple
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: in that format. And then, you know, lovely wheel of
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  Speaker 2: power and privilege, which is dividing kids up in a classroom.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: based on how much privilege they have and how much
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: power they have in society, right? So, again, that is
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: a piece of critical race theory being injected into an
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: activity within the class. But what really struck me personally
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: the most was the unit on Islamophobia. And why I
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: think this is really important, not just at the school level,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: but it kind of paints a picture on the broader
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: scale of what we're seeing with election stuff right now.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Let's jump into Michigan with the Senate candidate, Al-Said. And
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the really disturbing part about that unit is that not
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: only is it whitewashing Islamists... and Islamic regimes. But it's
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: also painting the picture that the bad guys are actually
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: the Americans and the Western culture.
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  Speaker 3: This is, it's really shocking. I understand one of the
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  Speaker 3: unit slides actually referenced Osama bin Laden's letter to America.
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  Speaker 4: That's correct.
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  Speaker 2: And that is, obviously, we all understand that that's a
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: piece of propaganda that he wrote. And what's, you know,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: It's one thing as a former teacher, it's one thing
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: if you're using that and you're juxtaposing that with a
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: different piece of literature and you're letting the kids do
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: a bit of analysis there, but that's not what this is.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: This is part of a unit that is intended to
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: present only one side of a political ideology, which is
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: very anti-Western, anti-American.
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  Speaker 3: How did you guys find out about all of this?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: You know, some of it we are able to find ourselves,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: whether it's through Freedom of Information Act requests or just...
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: looking at school board documents. Other times it's parents tipping
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: us off and sending us this information. And so it
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: just varies. We've written up over at least 50 of
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: these different ethnic studies curriculums, mostly West Coast, and it's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: all the same pattern of behavior. When you peel away
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: the layers, it's a far-left political programming meant to train
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: children to become far-left street radicals.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Again, we're just delighted to have Ryan Staley with us,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Director of Research for Defending Education. So you guys are
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: exposing all of this. Have you reached out to the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: school district? And if so, what have they told you?
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  Speaker 2: You know, we don't normally reach out to the districts themselves.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: We allow the journalists to do that. But we have
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: talked with locals, parents on the ground who we mostly
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: associate with, and they're happy that this is getting exposed today.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: The hard part now is trying to get these school
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: districts to pull back on these. The important thing to
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: understand for your listening audience, if they're not familiar with
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: ethnic studies, it's often sold to parents as culture and history.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: underneath that is the layers of the political program that
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I've already referenced. And so they do a really good
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  Speaker 2: job of selling this to the community. So what we're
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: trying to help people do is bring awareness to this
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: and then to break through that packaging they put on
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: it that makes it sound nice.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it seems to me that when you look at
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: all of the very bad things that are happening in
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: America right now, and I write about this in my
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: new book, The Golden Age, How Trump Saved America, Critical
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: race theory, this is not the only school that's teaching
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: critical race theory. And I don't know if they knew.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Something tells me they did know that teaching a generation
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: of young people that the white kid in your classroom
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: is responsible for everything that goes wrong in your life.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: Are we really surprised at what is the de facto
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: race wars and riots that are happening in major cities
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: across the country?
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  Speaker 2: No, in fact, you know, when I went into teaching
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: in 2008, Derrick Bell poster was on the wall of
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: our professional development room. For those that don't know, Derrick
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Bell was the father or the godfather of critical race theory.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: And so this stuff has been in graduate schools for education,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: et cetera, for a long time. But what we've seen
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: as a byproduct, and we track this at our website, defendinged.org,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: are all the student K-12 protests that happened since January,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: 400 documented cases of walkouts. And this curriculum, by the way,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: this ethnic studies curriculum is intended to foment more of
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: those walkouts.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. All right. So we've got a lot of listeners
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: across the country. Many of them have kids in public schools.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: Many of them are probably wondering, okay, is this being
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: taught in my kid's classroom? How do they find out?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: Well, first I'll say that, you know, especially non West
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: coast schools, it's probably a better chance that it's not
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: being taught to your children in school. There are a
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: lot of great teachers and a lot of great administrators
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: out there, um, who honestly, they don't really know what
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: this is and they're, they just want to go to
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: school and teach. I would say your parents or your
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: listeners start by asking questions, go to the open houses, um,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: Listen to the language that's being used. And a great
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: way to judge that is go and look at our
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: reports on ethnic studies because we highlight those key terms,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: white supremacy, whiteness, liberation, critical. I know that you and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: I were raised with critical thinking being problem-solving skills, but
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: this critical thinking today is a Marxist critical thinking. It's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: how to look at everything and see oppression and injustice everywhere.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: What a crazy story. Ryan, we appreciate you coming on
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: the show today and filling us in on it. Again, folks,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: if you'd like more information, go to defendinged.org. That's defendinged.org. Ryan,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: thank you for joining us today.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, Todd. I appreciate it.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Ryan Staley, Director of Research at Defending Education. And again,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: our telephone number, 901-260-5926. That's 901-260-5926. This is the Todd
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Stern Show. All right. So just a little while ago,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: President Trump is signing an executive order. And, you know,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: we're in this big tariff war right now, this trade
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: war with Canada. President Trump just signed an executive order
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: that renames Lake Ontario as Lake America. No, I'm not
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: making this up. This just happened inside the Oval Office.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: The president says, by the authority vested in me as
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: president by the Constitution and the laws of the United
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: States of America, it is hereby ordered that And then
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: he goes on and says that the United States is
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: the greatest protector of the Great Lakes, including the body
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: of water currently known as Lake Ontario. He says, without
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: the security and investment provided by the U.S., this freshwater
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: system would not be open for shipping, recreation, and responsible
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: use to the same extent as it is today. And so,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: You know we're going to go to war with Canada, right?
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: It says, can you see it? It's just right there.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Shots will be fired.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: All right. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: president also suggesting that he may rename one of the oceans. No,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: I am not making this up. Unbelievable. So there you go.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: Well done, Mr. President. Well done, sir. Oh, by the way,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy's attorney is now out there talking to reporters
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: outside of the courthouse saying that she is... a marvelous
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: person who is very concerned about women's rights. So the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: attorney just gave it away. He gave away what this
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: is really all about. This is nothing about strangling the children.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: This is all about turning her into some sort of
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: a martyr for the feminist movement. They said they're trying
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: to make this case about women's rights and distract you
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: from the fact that three children were strangled to death.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, one very well-known feminist lawyer
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: actually went out there and said, you know what? I
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: got three kids. I mean, you know, what was she
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: supposed to do? Well, here's a thought, not strangle the kids.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: Are you really surprised, though? I mean, a lot of
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: people are genuinely surprised that that Thousands of women across
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: the nation are defending this woman and suggesting that she
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: is the victim. And in doing so, they're basically saying that, well,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: the children had it coming, is what these women are saying.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: But are you really surprised? Because we live in a
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: nation where a very large number of people believe it's
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: okay to kill your baby now. On the day of
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: its birth, as a matter of fact, in Massachusetts, the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: female governor, they had a huge room full of women
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: celebrating and cheering as she signed the law, was it
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, saying that it was okay
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: to kill your children on the day of the child's birth.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: To give you an example of how the law works,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: let's just say you're giving birth, and we'll say it's
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: a breech birth, all right? So you see a big toe, right?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: You see the little baby's big toe? You still at
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: that moment, if you don't like how the big toe looks,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: you can abort your child in Massachusetts. That's the evil
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: we're talking about here. And nobody likes to talk about that,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: especially in conservative media. I remember over at Fox, they
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: don't talk a lot about the pro-life movement at Fox
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: because they feel that is too controversial. No, I'm just
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: telling you, I was there. I heard it with my
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: own ears. That's how they operate over there. I'm just saying. 901-260-5926,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: our telephone number. That's 901-260-5926. I want to play some audio.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to this kindergarten teacher for
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: just a moment. This is a big deal. And again,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think this is parody. I went on the
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: woman's TikTok page, and you don't know if she's yanking
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: your chain or not. But again, this is a kindergarten
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: teacher who says that half of her class wants to
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: be a different gender. A kindergarten teacher cut 25.
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  Speaker 14: So I'm a kindergarten teacher and today was a really
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 14: good day. I sat my class down and I said,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 14: show of hands, who wishes that they were born a
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 14: different gender? And I would say about half of the
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 14: kids raised their hands. So for the kids that didn't
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 14: raise their hands, I said, okay, you guys are going
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 14: to have to go sit on the floor in the
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 14: corner of the classroom over there and just be quiet.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 14: And so then what I did was I had everybody
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 14: come up to the board and write what name they
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 14: want to be called. And I said, it has to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 14: be another name other than what you were already called.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 14: So like if the name Bob is on your birth certificate,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 14: you can't write Bob.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: On the board.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 14: Like you have to be given a new name. So
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 14: I had one kid come up and write Cookie. And
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 14: I said, okay, Cookie, what are your pronouns? Cookie was
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 14: pretty confused. And I said, do you want to be called.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: She, he, they, zee, zur? And Cookie said, zur. And
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: I said, okay. Listen up class, Cookie just picked Xur's pronouns.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 14: Everybody gives Xur a round of applause and then everybody
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 14: gave Xur a round of applause. Just really like showed
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 14: me how important it is that we give youth the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 14: opportunity to identify themselves like this.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: And soon I plan on going to the school.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 14: Board and asking them to let me have legal name
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 14: and gender changes in my classroom every Friday. So hopefully
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 14: that goes well. But yeah, I just wanted to share.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: By the way, Dylan, I actually have a chapter in
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: the book about this. It's chapter 16 in the Golden Age.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Hold on. The chapter title, Jimmy Lee Ledbetter is dating
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: a rhubarb.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, yes.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: And in this chapter, sorry, I'm getting, here we go.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: It was quite the scandal when Janice Ledbetter. Oh, pardon me.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 10: There we go.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 15: All right.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: It was quite the scandal when Janice Ledbetter announced during
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Wednesday night prayer meeting down at the First Baptist Church
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: of Woolley Booger that her nephew, Jimmy Lee, was in
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: need of intercessory prayer. I was unable to attend the
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: prayer meeting, but as I heard it, Jimmy Lee had
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: taken up with a drum circle in Asheville, North Carolina.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: They're mighty liberal in that part of the state. They
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: drink their tea without sugar and without ice, and the
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: diners serve something called barbecue tofu. Anyway, Ms. Janos was
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: all worked up because it seems not only had Jimmy
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Lee been banging the bongos, but he'd also become a
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: certified tree hugger. And as the story in the chapter
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: goes on, he was literally making out with a tree.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Lee himself identified as a rhubarb. It's... It's a
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: moving chapter in the golden age. Now Trump saved America. Anyway,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: I bet that guy went to that kindergarten teacher's class.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking. We'll be right back, everybody. All right,
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  Speaker 3: let's go to the phones real quick. Gainesville, Georgia. WDUN,
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  Speaker 3: our great affiliate there. Doug, what's on your mind, Doug?
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  Speaker 12: Todd, you know I love you. And I've called you.
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  Speaker 12: We've talked a number of times. You are doing such
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 12: an excellent job. Rush is looking down at you just
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 12: like Dolly's looking down at us all with blessed eyes.
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  Speaker 12: But that is why I called. I'm strictly anti-abortion. And
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 12: I think abortion is killing, but if you really want
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 12: to get these people, if you want to poke them
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 12: in the ribs, say, you know what, maybe I agree
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 12: with you. I think abortion is good under certain circumstances.
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  Speaker 12: And then you pause and then say, as long as
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 12: it's a black person or a woman. And then shut
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 12: up and you, they'll go berserk because they're going to
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 12: have to admit it's murder. But I just like to
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 12: get them mad at us.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's one way to do it, Doug, no doubt
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: about it. That would get them riled up. But again,
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  Speaker 3: under the Massachusetts law, they allow abortions up to birth.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: Planned Parenthood, and this is something else that really aggravates
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: the left, is when you remind them that Planned Parenthood
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: was actually created to kill unborn black babies. I mean,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: that was the whole point of it with Margaret Sanger
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: and Maybe that's a conversation for another day. But, Doug,
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  Speaker 3: it's a great point you raise, and thank you, sir,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: for those kind words. I want to go right away
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: to our Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line and say hello to
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: our good friend Kyle Campbell, host of the Politically Basic podcast. Kyle,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: we've been following the jury deliberations, the closing arguments wrapped
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: up with Lindsey Clancy just a little while ago. And
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: it does seem as though her attorney is now trying
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: to portray her as some sort of a martyr for
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: the feminist movement. What is your take on what we've
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: been seeing happen in that trial?
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  Speaker 15: Well, hi, Todd.
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  Speaker 19: Good to see you and always good to be with you.
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  Speaker 19: I am absorbing every minute of this and was watching
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  Speaker 19: all morning. Really, really interesting to hear closing arguments. I
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 19: think the defense actually did the worst job they've done
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 19: throughout this trial in those closing arguments. And the prosecution
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 19: really tied a nice, neat little bow on top of this.
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  Speaker 19: The thing that I plucked out from Kevin Reddington, the
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  Speaker 19: lead defense attorney, when he was giving those closing arguments
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 19: was exactly this point that you are making is that
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  Speaker 19: he said, Lindsay Clancy was a nurse. She was a daughter,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 19: a wife, and he said a darn good mother. And
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  Speaker 19: I think that in his attempts to, to make this
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 19: jury sympathetic toward her. He actually did a great deal
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 19: of damage to their case in highlighting her as any
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 19: type of good mother and eliciting every single one of
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 19: those 12 jurors' feelings about what a mom should be,
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  Speaker 19: a caretaker, a protector, a provider. And she was the opposite.
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  Speaker 19: And I think that he unwittingly drew that comparison And
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  Speaker 19: that really is going to aid the jurors in coming
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  Speaker 19: to their conclusion here. I don't think it's going to
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  Speaker 19: go well for Lindsay Clancy. And I don't think that
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  Speaker 19: it should. We're talking about the legality of this and
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  Speaker 19: what justification she could have possibly had for committing this
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  Speaker 19: triple murder. And that's what it was. And I just
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  Speaker 19: don't think the defense closed that gap by any stretch
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  Speaker 19: of the imagination.
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  Speaker 3: The argument coming from the mob that's outside the courtroom
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: there is, that, well, the father of the children bears
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  Speaker 3: responsibility here. I mean, they're trying to cast blame on
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  Speaker 3: the father. Look, ultimately, she's the one that killed the kids.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: The father was sent out, so clearly it looked like
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: this was a premeditated thing, so she sent him on
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: an errand. And even if he did, okay, that's fine.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: You know what? Those people, if they have any sort
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: of role in this, well, let's hold them accountable. But
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: that still does not dismiss the fact that this woman
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: killed her own children. They say, according to the prosecution,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: took four to five minutes to kill each child. there
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: needs to be a punishment here.
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  Speaker 19: 100% right. And when you're talking about the legal case here,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 19: you've got to rest on evidentiary support. And none of
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 19: the evidence supported that. She never mentioned he wasn't supporting
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 19: her as a husband or he was an absent father.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 19: And regardless of all that, at the end of the day, Todd,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 19: this is a case about where you have to be
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 19: mentally and psychologically to get you off the hook for
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 19: serving a sentence for triple murder as a sane person. Again,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 19: let's say Patrick Clancy was a terrible father and a
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 19: horrible husband. I don't think that's the case, but let's
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  Speaker 19: go there for a second. Does it excuse her behavior?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 19: And so this mob, as you call them, and I
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 19: think you're right to call them that, they've picked up
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 19: on this like, poor women, we don't have enough support.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 19: And you know what? Maybe that's true. Being a woman
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 19: is tough and being a mom in 2026 is really hard.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 19: Once again, we're not traversing that grand Canyon size gap
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 19: of my life.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 13: Stressful.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 19: It's hard. I have three kids, you know, I don't
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 19: feel well all the time. I'm going to send my
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 19: husband away and systematically strangle each one of them one
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 19: at a time. Absolutely. In no universe is that going
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 19: to make sense to, to a jury. So again, But
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 19: it does bring up this real concern about how women,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 19: and I'm going to go ahead and say most of
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 19: them are probably left-leaning women, are trying to justify killing
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 19: babies in or outside of the womb today. It's a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 19: really scary thing, Todd, and I think we need to
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 19: spend some concerted time messaging against this.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: Kyle Campbell, joining us, host of the great podcast Politically Basic. Kyle,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: the elections coming up midterms, the Everybody's getting geared up
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: for this, whatever this midterm convention is, which, by the way,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: has caused a lot of consternation. Apparently, Republican lawmakers are
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: balking at the price tag. There's just been a lot
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: of disorganization surrounding it. Do you think that's going to
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: move the needle at all as we head into the
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: final stretch here?
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 19: I do think so. You know, Donald Trump doesn't do
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 19: anything small potato style. He likes to go big. He
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 19: likes to get the energy high. So I think they
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 19: are going to spend some money here. You know, the
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 19: RNC particularly has definitely out-fundraised the DNC by multitude. So
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 19: they have the money in the bank and they have
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 19: really been campaigning this entire two years leading up to midterms.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 19: They've been smart about that and taking opportunities to continue
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 19: putting Donald Trump and J.D. Vance as well, front and center,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 19: keep the campaigning going, keep the rallying going. I actually
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 19: think this is going to be a blast. You know,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 19: he's doing the Freedom 250 IndyCar race in D.C. He
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 19: had the motocross bikes doing flips over the UFC cage
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 19: on the White House lawn. This is the year of
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 19: these big, splashy events, hyper-patriotic, getting people energized to save
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 19: the republic. I am guessing it's going to get people
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 19: excited to go out and vote, and I hope that happens.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 19: I hope they can get it together.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that's the right move, though? Because I
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: think the White House is now seeing that if they're
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: going to be successful, they're going to have to make
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: the midterms really about Donald Trump and not necessarily what
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: the Republicans have not done in Congress so far.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 19: You know, it's an interesting sort of head-butting here going on.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 19: Donald Trump's endorsements have been good as gold recently. His
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 19: polling with different demographics has really been up and down.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 19: The economy is still not rebounded to the place where
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 19: he promised it would. Even though a lot of good
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 19: has come out of this conflict with Iran, it doesn't
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 19: exactly land with everyone. They can't quite see it. We're
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 19: seeing immediate results and he's got a lot of work
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 19: to do. So you're exactly right. He can't be seen
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 19: as coming out and just dumping piles of cash everywhere.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 19: on a big party, Texas style. He's got to be
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 19: sensitive to what voters need to hear from him, and
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 19: they need to have their confidence re-instilled that those promises
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 19: that won him the executive office in 24 are going
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 19: to carry them through and pass this midterm. I'm hoping
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 19: he'll do it, but it's yet to be seen.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: All right, Kyle, how are things going there in California?
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: I know Steve Hilton has been working Got to give
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: the guy credit. He is really working hard for this
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: election cycle.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 19: I've never seen anything like it. I just had him
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 19: on Politically Basic for the third time. He's going from
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 19: media interview to rally to dinners in people's homes. He's
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 19: exposing this fraud, exposing what Rob and Mia Bonta are
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 19: doing to just absolutely strip taxpayers of of their hard-earned money.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 19: He's exposing Javier Becerra in this real scandal, this migrant
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 19: center and what's happened with all of these hundreds of
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 19: thousands of missing children. I truly have never seen a
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 19: candidate work so hard and the polling is reflecting that.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 19: Javier Becerra is losing his lead and Steve is catching
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 19: up and that undecided bank of voters is growing. So
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 19: it's actually getting really thrilling as we come to November 3rd.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 19: But I'm all in for Steve. He is just a
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 19: wonderful human, start to finish, loves the state. And we
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 19: would love to see him have the opportunity to make
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 19: it golden again.
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  Speaker 3: I love to hear that. All right. Well, Kyle, always
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: good seeing you. Folks, be sure to follow Kyle on
• 1:44:33
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• 1:44:39
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  Speaker 19: You as well, sir. Hope to see you soon. Hey,
• 1:44:46
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• 1:44:48
  Speaker 19: on Politically Basic, please.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: We got to talk about the book. It's going gangbusters. So,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: all right. We're definitely going to make that happen. Although
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not a good, I'm good at asking the questions.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm good at answering the questions.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 19: We can battle it out on the show.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: That's great. All right. Thanks a lot, Kyle. All right. Likewise,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: you know, we're going to have to, that would be
• 1:45:11
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• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: this weekend. Mary was a lot of fun. And what's
• 1:45:18
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• 1:45:23
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• 1:45:25
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• 1:45:27
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• 1:45:33
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  Speaker 3: This is the Todd Stern Show. All right. Hello, everybody.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: Welcome back. Apparently, there's some mama drama going on. A
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: 10-part Instagram series about a mom who transforms her hectic
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: life into songs using an AI music generator, and apparently
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: it revolves around Oreo cookies. Well, this is interesting. So anyway, Michelle,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: one of the six moms in this group chat, asked
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: the other moms to refrain from sending their five-year-olds to
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: school with Oreo cookies because she doesn't want her daughter
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: to eat Oreo cookies. And all you-know-what broke loose. According
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: to the mom, I just wonder if we could agree
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: not to send things like Oreos, chocolate candy, etc., so
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: the kids are not comparing lunches. By the way, 10
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: million video views on this. That's a big deal. The
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: New York Post covering the controversy. The mom named Ashley said,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Another mom writing in to Ashley saying, I don't think
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: you can really control what everyone else packs in their lunch.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, what are you supposed to do? Basically have
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: a socialist– I mean, this is like socialism in the lunchroom, right?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: And that's the whole point of being– and this is
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: why lunch in the grade school and middle school years
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: are so vitally important. Because if your mom packs a
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: killer lunch, then you're going to be like the darling
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: of the cafeteria, right? So because, you know, kids are
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 3: going to want to, you know, trade something, you know, oh, wow,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: your mom packed you a meatloaf sandwich?
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  Speaker 6: This is actually what happened in school, like every day, right?
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you got the chocolate milk and someone
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: else got the strawberry milk, like, you know, people are
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: trading up for the chocolate milks in middle school every
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: single day.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: I never could drink the strawberry milk.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: I couldn't either. That's why it's, you know.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: I've always felt somebody bled.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: Why is there blood in my chocolate?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: It's very processed, too. It's not the best.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: Quality.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. It's hard to go down there. It's hard.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: Even the Yoo-Hoos.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, mom group chat beefs, be they over sweets
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: or A-list social events, are no laughing matter. Ashley Tisdale
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: of high school musical fame is now a married mom
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: of two. And she says it can be really hard
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: out there that her kids were actually barred from a
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: group because of, I don't know, something she said. So anyway,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: Oreo gate is what they're calling it. And a lot
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: of moms said, you have no right to tell other
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: moms what to pack in the lunches. I, you know, again,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. And the whole point is you
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: want to have the best lunch possible. What are you
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: supposed to do? Replace the Oreo cookies with, I don't know,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: with what? Celery stalks?
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  Speaker 6: I guess so. This is what they want you to do.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: This is like socialism for Karen. This is like Karen's socialism.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 3: I will say this. We had this conversation during Mary
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: Walter's podcast. We were talking about, I don't know why
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: Oreos came up. It had nothing to do with the
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: story we just talked about, but We were talking about
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: how double stuff Oreos are now basically what the normal
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Oreo used to be. And if you really want to
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: get a double stuff Oreo, you got to buy the
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: mega stuff.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 18: Yes.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 16: Right?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: Yes, it is. Because the normal Oreos don't have any cream. Well,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: they do.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: There's nothing. It's like a, you know, it's not even
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: a schmear.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: No, but we've become so Americanized that the normal Oreos
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: have always been that size. But since they released the
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: double stuff and now the mega stuff, I think there's
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: an actual ultra mega stuff now, which is like don't
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: even go for the chocolate anymore. You just have a
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 6: cream cookie at that point.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: I tried to tell a joke once. I was speaking
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: at a men's conference, and there were these two guys
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: that were like bodybuilder types on either side of me,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: and I was in the middle. And I said I
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: felt like a vanilla mega stuff Oreo. Nobody got the joke.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's really sad.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: But then somebody did. Somebody did. Like, it took them
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: a minute to figure it out. And there was like
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: this big guffaw out. We see what you did there, Starnes.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: You're the mega stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: Appreciate that. It is what it is. So anyway, moms,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: would you do that? Would you say, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: You're right. We just want to protect little Sally and
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  Speaker 3: her sensibilities. Years ago, when I was at Fox News Channel,
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  Speaker 3: they farmed me out to the local Fox 5 affiliate
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  Speaker 3: in New York City, which we owned at the time
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: at Fox. And they knew I lived in Brooklyn, and
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  Speaker 3: they thought it would be fun for me to do
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: like a weekly segment on the local Fox Channel about
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: what it's like being a Southerner living in Brooklyn. And
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  Speaker 3: so we did these funny little bits. And one of
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: them actually involved a group of mobsters that had started
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: a petition drive. They wanted to ban the ice cream
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  Speaker 3: truck from the park. And they said the reason why
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 3: is every time they rang the bell, the children wanted
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  Speaker 3: ice cream. And these moms did not want their kids
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: eating ice cream. And instead, they wanted them to eat
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: like kale chips. So anyway, I'm on air, and I'm
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: telling the story. And I said, you know, back in
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  Speaker 3: the South, if you didn't want your kid to eat
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  Speaker 3: ice cream, you said no. Mommy, can I have some
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  Speaker 3: ice cream?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 10: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because I said so.
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  Speaker 15: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And that's how we did things in the South. So anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I thought it would be fun to just kind of
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  Speaker 3: eat a thing, a mouthful of, you know, have like
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: just a whole handful of kale chips on air. And
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: I did it. We were live on air. And I said, oh,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: I had to spit it out on air. I said, oh,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: my God, this tastes like cat litter. And then I
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 3: tossed it back to the news desk.
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  Speaker 6: You'd much rather have ice cream.
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  Speaker 3: It took me forever.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Just give me a tub of whatever you're selling, pal.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to get this taste out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 15: All right.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to scoot out of here. Folks, it's been
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: a great day. Get a copy of The Golden Age.
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• 1:52:43
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• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. Open line Friday, Americans.