Latest / Simply Bitcoin / $725B Bank: Forget the Election, $200k Bitcoin is coming | EP 1112
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- 0:00Yo, these two giants holding trillions of dollars of assets
- 0:04are predicting massive gains for Bitcoin after the US elections.
- 0:08An $800 billion bank predicts a Bitcoin will end the year at 75K
- 0:13if Harris wins and 125K if Trump wins.
- 0:16But wait, a $725 billion investment manager believes
- 0:21Bitcoin is headed to 200 K. Either way, today will reveal
- 0:26who these giants are and explore whether they know something that
- 0:29we don't. Plus, I think we're going to
- 0:31settle the age-old debate of whether the Bitcoin cycles are
- 0:34linked with the halvings or the liquidity cycles are impacted by
- 0:38the elections. Let's jump straight into it.
- 0:40We got a big show for you guys today.
- 0:42And of course, I'm in the driver's seat, but I'm not
- 0:45alone. We have our fearless leader
- 0:47Nikka with us and of course, James from stamp seed.
- 0:51Let's get into this guy's forgive us for the slight delay.
- 0:55This restream changed on us a little bit, but we're we're
- 0:58we're rolling with the punches. All right guys, first and
- 1:01foremost, the big news actually, as you guys know, it's Election
- 1:05Day big, big deal here in the United States.
- 1:08But as bitcoiners doesn't matter for us, Nico would argue yes,
- 1:12some of us might argue Bitcoin's going to do what it does
- 1:14anyways. But first first prediction here
- 1:17is by Standard Chartered Bank $800 billion company predicting
- 1:22that Bitcoin will hit 125K if the Republicans sweep Congress.
- 1:26So let's look into this Bitcoin post US election playbook, you
- 1:30know, using volume levels and popular strike levels and
- 1:33estimate post election price moves.
- 1:36They think that BTC price is likely to be around what today
- 1:39they said 73. It pumped up to 70 K this
- 1:42morning. And assuming a Trump victory
- 1:45options break even imply a further price rise about 4% when
- 1:49the presidential outcome is known.
- 1:50So maybe later today, maybe a week from now, who knows And
- 1:54around 10% in total plus gain in the next few days.
- 1:58And if there's a Republican sweep in Congress, then the year
- 2:02end target is 125 K. And that where we might end up
- 2:06by the end of the day or the end of this year.
- 2:08And if Harris wins, we might see a little, little bit of the
- 2:10price go down, but we should probably break all time high by
- 2:14the end of the year at around 75 K.
- 2:17So this is our first prediction here by Standard Charter Bank.
- 2:20And the next one is by Bernstein analysts.
- 2:23And of course, this is kind of where I've been headed and this
- 2:26is kind of my thinking. And this is how what Bernstein
- 2:29says, the headline Bitcoin could hit 200 K by 2025, driven by
- 2:33institutional demand. And the ETFs, of course, we've
- 2:35been covering the ETFs all year. We've seen institutional demand
- 2:39ever since Black Rock out into Bitcoin and so they're
- 2:42projecting 200K by 2025 S next year.
- 2:45Who knows when exactly, but we'll argue maybe around
- 2:48November of next year, fueled of course by post having supply
- 2:51dynamics and institutional demand growth and of course the
- 2:55attraction of institutional capital from the ETFs.
- 2:58But let's not just look out, you know, some price predictions by
- 3:02these analysts. Let's look at post election
- 3:04performance historically around Bitcoin.
- 3:06So Bitwise has been dropping some really good charts recently
- 3:10and actually I think I might need some help from Nico here
- 3:12considering that I'm the colorblind 1 here.
- 3:14So you can see that days after the US election couple 100 days
- 3:20plus Bitcoin price starts ripping.
- 3:23So I know all of us bitcoiners are usually having cycle Maxis
- 3:27or like it's a four year halving cycle.
- 3:28This is why Bitcoin does what it does usually, you know, a couple
- 3:32hundred days after the halving, it's roughly around like six
- 3:34months or so the Bitcoin starts to RIP.
- 3:37But it's very interesting, like what does the, you know, where
- 3:41he lined up the having perfectly with the elections, because
- 3:44after the elections, that's when capital goes and gets injected
- 3:48into the markets and the price starts ripping.
- 3:51And we're seeing something very similar.
- 3:53So, you know, you guys can choose whatever side of the
- 3:56aisle you want, but it looks like that based on the
- 4:00prediction odd markets, you know, the, the, the, what are
- 4:03the, the betting odds here? This one's based on Pauly
- 4:06market. There's been a price rise this
- 4:09morning. People are predicting.
- 4:11I think the market is pricing in a Trump win and you can see that
- 4:15the Bitcoin price has reacted very strongly this morning.
- 4:18It got back up to 70 K. So, you know, the standard
- 4:22charter bank and analysis is kind of on point that we're
- 4:25going to probably get into that 73 K range by the end of the day
- 4:29once we know the outcome of the Bitcoin or the election.
- 4:32The Bitcoin price has responded very good this morning.
- 4:34It seems like the markets are pricing in a Trump victory.
- 4:39I know a lot of the betting odds out there saying that Trump is
- 4:42most likely going to win. Do we know?
- 4:44We have no idea. But by the end of the day, we
- 4:46should get a clearview of what is going on.
- 4:49Are we going to get a Harris win?
- 4:50Supposedly, allegedly, it could be a week.
- 4:53Who knows how long this is going to take.
- 4:54But if we get a Harris win, people are thinking, you know,
- 4:57the price might go down a little bit, but we should be back at
- 5:00these price levels by the end of the year if Trump wins.
- 5:03And I think this is what the betting odds are kind of pricing
- 5:06in the price of Bitcoin seems to be ripping.
- 5:09And so, you know, based on past performance, it's very
- 5:12interesting that the halving cycles do align perfectly with
- 5:15the election cycles, with the liquidity markets of the
- 5:18election. And I've been saying this for a
- 5:20while and you know, Nico and I kind of went back and forth
- 5:22yesterday, it seems like a lot of people are just leaving
- 5:25capital on the sidelines. You know, the election bring a
- 5:28lot of uncertainty and This is why you're seeing that many
- 5:32people are just kind of keeping their capital on the sidelines
- 5:35waiting for this election results to play out before they
- 5:37start to inject capital into the markets.
- 5:40But it looks like the Bitcoin price is reacting very favorably
- 5:43this morning on a, you know, pricing in of whether Trump is
- 5:48winning this election. We'll we'll see some fireworks
- 5:52by the end of the day. But anyways, Nico, you're in the
- 5:55Co host seat. You know, our our fearless
- 5:57leader Co hosting today. But what's your thoughts on
- 6:00this? I know you and I have been going
- 6:01back and forth. What's your thoughts on the idea
- 6:04of the Bitcoin having cycle versus the Bitcoin election
- 6:07cycle? Yeah.
- 6:08You know, it's, it's, it's quite a coincidence that the year of
- 6:13the having is also the year of the US presidential election.
- 6:17People are saying that they don't like, they're saying that
- 6:21it was a coincidence, that that wasn't on purpose.
- 6:24There's a lot of coincidences in Bitcoin.
- 6:26So my personal belief is I don't think that was a coincidence.
- 6:30Now in regards to the, if you look at previous cycles, yes,
- 6:36Bitcoin tends to go bananas after the presidential election.
- 6:41Now specific to this presidential election, this is
- 6:45really the first time that Bitcoin is on the ballot.
- 6:49So what do I mean by that? Depending on who gets elected,
- 6:53which candidate gets elected, you're either going to have a
- 6:56pro Bitcoin regulatory environment in the US for the
- 6:59next four years, or you're going to have an anti Bitcoin
- 7:02regulatory environment for the next three years, four years.
- 7:05Not to mention the potential finally, finally freeing Ross
- 7:10Ulbrich. So yes, I, I think that
- 7:15depending on what the outcome of this election is, it's
- 7:18definitely going to have an impact on price without a shadow
- 7:21of a doubt. Now, what if Harris wins?
- 7:24If Harris wins, does that mean that, you know, we're not going
- 7:27to pump like crazy in 2025? No, I don't think so.
- 7:31Bitcoin has existed during multiple administrations.
- 7:36Multiple administrations have been relatively hostile from a
- 7:40regulatory perspective. So Bitcoin doesn't care.
- 7:43TikTok, next block. However, you cannot deny that
- 7:48one candidate would be more positive for Bitcoin.
- 7:51And I think the market is going to sniff that out.
- 7:54I think the market is going to sense that.
- 7:55So if there is a potential Trump victory, I think we're going to
- 8:00pump harder. And if there's a Harris victory,
- 8:03there might be a short term dump followed by, you know, the, the
- 8:08pump like usual. That, that, that's what my
- 8:10intuition is telling me. At the end of the day, no one
- 8:13knows the future. If anyone's telling you
- 8:14otherwise, they're lying. But it is going to be an
- 8:17exciting day regardless, specifically if you not live in
- 8:20the United States. I mean, the like, if, if you
- 8:22would have told me 15 years ago that you would have a mainstream
- 8:28political candidate bringing up the fact that he's going to
- 8:33protect Bitcoin, protect the right to self custody, protect
- 8:37the right to mine, potentially put Bitcoin on the US
- 8:42government's balance sheet and and keep it there as a strategic
- 8:46reserve, I would not have believed you.
- 8:48So we've come a long way. I saw V for Vendetta in the chat
- 8:52talking about it. Yes, ultimately the most
- 8:55important vote you can make is voting with your wallet, taking
- 8:58self custody, opting out of the system, taking back your
- 9:01financial sovereignty, taking back your monetary energy.
- 9:04Without a shadow of a doubt, that's 100% true.
- 9:07However, however, and me and Opti were talking about this
- 9:09yesterday, your vote today does count.
- 9:13It does matter specifically if you live in the swing States and
- 9:16even if you are just like Nico. I don't care about the Bitcoin
- 9:18regulatory environment or for whatever reason, at least do it
- 9:21to free Ross. Man, this guy's been given two
- 9:24life sentences unjustly. They tried to make an example
- 9:27out of him. That's fucked up.
- 9:29And if we we now have, even if Trump is gaslighting us, even if
- 9:34he's lying to us, at least I'm going to be able to sleep
- 9:37soundly at night and say, you know what?
- 9:39I gave it a shot. I gave it a shot for Ross to
- 9:42regain his freedom. Ross's mom actually reached out
- 9:45to us on Friday and she sent us a video.
- 9:47Could you imagine the ups and downs that this lady has gone
- 9:51through with her son and we are on the cusp of potentially
- 9:57freeing her son? I mean, that is that is pretty
- 9:59crazy. And again, one last thing before
- 10:01I pass it on to James. It's not that Bitcoin needs
- 10:05politicians. It's that our movement has
- 10:08become so powerful, so strong, so influential, we are now part
- 10:13of the donor base that you're going to see more and more
- 10:16politicians come to Bitcoiners and say, hey, I need your vote.
- 10:21Not only do I need your vote, I need some of that sweet, sweet
- 10:24Bitcoin money in order to run my campaign, right.
- 10:27So anyways, that's my take. Of course, we have a very
- 10:30special guest today. We got James in the house, the
- 10:33hammer man himself. How you doing, James?
- 10:37I'm doing. Great guys.
- 10:38Great day today. I mean happy to be here with you
- 10:42guys. After going there, casting the
- 10:43ballot, I tried actually bringing my hammer and my plate
- 10:47and doing a titanium bout so paper.
- 10:49They would have let me do it though.
- 10:50So I have to do the shit coin paper route, but you know, it's
- 10:54all good. The C phrase is in the titanium
- 10:57so you know important things are there.
- 10:59But I'm doing great guys, and I'll get to see you today.
- 11:02Yeah, but then thanks for joining us, man.
- 11:03So what? What's your take on this like?
- 11:05Quick opinion from you, James, like.
- 11:07Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of in your boat.
- 11:08Like I, you know, if Trump wins, obviously Bitcoin to me is good.
- 11:12The price is going to pump. We saw that a little bit this
- 11:14morning. I only think that's going to
- 11:16continue. You know, obviously it's
- 11:18embracing Bitcoin a lot more. You know, during the election
- 11:21campaigning, I was in Nashville. So him there speaking on stage,
- 11:26you know, fire Gary Gensler, Free Ross, all those good
- 11:28things. He's going to let us play with
- 11:30our bitcoins. So obviously all good things
- 11:34there. And I think it'll be great for
- 11:36Bitcoin, you know, for every citizen in the country to
- 11:39embrace it. It'll be a lot less looked at as
- 11:42a scam by the masses just because it's going to be
- 11:44embraced a lot more. And you know, you'll get the the
- 11:46entire it wouldn't just be obviously, you know, Trump
- 11:48winning the entire cabinet is pro Bitcoin, RFK, Elon Musk, pro
- 11:54crypto, at least on his end. But I was watching one of your
- 11:57videos with with Ruston yesterday.
- 11:59He does a great job. And he's talking about how Ron
- 12:03Paul will could potentially be unofficial role.
- 12:05But in Elon's year, if he's the department of government
- 12:08efficiency. So that could be pretty
- 12:10interesting too, because obviously, you know, I feel that
- 12:13the first big wave of mainstream Bitcoiners came through the
- 12:16Occupy Wall Street movement. Ron Paul could have been a voice
- 12:19if they that they follow during those times.
- 12:22And it's funny to see him kind of come back around full circle
- 12:25when bitcoins embrace on, you know, much more of a national
- 12:28stage at this point. It's, you know, it's being
- 12:31embraced financially, ETFs, obviously people are going to be
- 12:34putting it on their balance sheets, corporations and now,
- 12:36you know, from the government standpoint, much more embrace.
- 12:39So it's cool to see things come full circle.
- 12:41So obviously I feel Trump wins, Bitcoin will be embraced a
- 12:46little faster either way. It's inevitable.
- 12:49If he doesn't, you'd say the price goes down.
- 12:52We don't know, but if it does, you know, just buy more sets
- 12:54since he's that easy. So yeah, it's my take. 100
- 12:58percent, 100%. Well, I just want to echo one
- 13:01thing that Kaiser said. Nico, you brought it up and but
- 13:04I quote Kaiser all the time on this show.
- 13:06You know, he who has the Bitcoin makes the rules.
- 13:08And it seems like we're finally entering into that political
- 13:11paradigm. But just kind of echoing what
- 13:13all the chat is saying, Bitcoin don't need no stinking
- 13:16politician. The politicians need Bitcoin and
- 13:19they need Bitcoiners to succeed and secure that vote.
- 13:22So it's going to be a very interesting end of the day.
- 13:25Or actually maybe we, who knows, we have no idea what's going to
- 13:29happen by the end of the day, but I think we should get a good
- 13:31idea by tonight what's going on with the elections, Who might
- 13:35win, who's leading in the polls, all that good stuff.
- 13:38But hey, I'm going to make a prediction here, Nico and James.
- 13:41I think Bitcoin is going to win this election at the very end of
- 13:45the day. And here we are.
- 13:46Love to see it. Love to see.
- 13:48It absolutely guys before we jump into it before I hand
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- 17:41All right, boys and girls, Of course it's numbers.
- 17:43We're over here on Clark Moody's Bitcoin dashboard and the
- 17:46Bitcoin price this morning, it got a rebound.
- 17:48We're at $70,190.00 per Bitcoin. The sats per dollar, AKA how
- 17:53much Bitcoin you can buy for a single dollar, AKA how much your
- 17:56dollar is worth in Bitcoin is currently at 1425 sats or 142
- 18:01bits for you guys in the bag. I think, Nico, I think bits is
- 18:04going to come back in style once we break 100K.
- 18:07So I'm, I'm going to keep plugging the bits just to troll
- 18:09people out there. Anyways, the most important
- 18:12number here is the block hike. TikTok Next block Bitcoin is
- 18:14working exactly as designed. We're currently at a block
- 18:17height of 869,000 and seven again 869007 and the market cap
- 18:23in Fiat terms is $1.39 trillion. The Bitcoin versus gold market
- 18:28cap, so much room to run in the hard money game.
- 18:30We are currently at 7.3% of the gold market cap and the total
- 18:35Bitcoin that will ever be issued is currently at 94.18%, which
- 18:40means that 19,777,900 33.61 Bitcoin are circulating
- 18:47currently. Matt, you might want to get some
- 18:49just in case the cat is on. OK guys, I, I want to play this
- 18:53video. So Jack Mueller's came out with
- 18:55a clip yesterday. And again, you know, we're
- 18:58making these price predictions. It looks like the elections
- 19:01finally going to clear out the liquidity.
- 19:02It looks like Bitcoin finally ready to pump and we're going to
- 19:06be in for an incredible ride. I believe personally going into
- 19:092025. But Jack Mueller's just did this
- 19:12clip and I think he's got a new take on this idea.
- 19:16When you get asked by your normally friends the question,
- 19:18am I late to Bitcoin? Because a lot of people, we're
- 19:21going to see a lot of people on the sidelines right now
- 19:23basically be like, oh, you know, I'd buy Bitcoin if it went down
- 19:27to 50K. Now it's at six figure Bitcoin,
- 19:30it's 100K Bitcoin. Like I missed the boat.
- 19:32Everyone that comes to Bitcoin has the same idea.
- 19:35I remember when I got into Bitcoin, I thought I missed
- 19:37Bitcoin because I didn't buy it at $100.
- 19:40You're going to get the same thing with your normally
- 19:41friends. They're going to come around and
- 19:43be like, ma'am, bitcoins at 100 Ki miss Bitcoin.
- 19:46And I really like how Jack Mullins is framing this.
- 19:48So we got a new take on the question, am I late to Bitcoin?
- 19:53Let's hear what Jack Mullins has to say.
- 19:55Is because I was I was with a bunch of no coiners last night
- 19:58people asking about Bitcoin and couldn't convince themselves to
- 20:01buy it and the number one thing people keep saying is you know
- 20:05I'm just late I'm late to the game and I love the this is a
- 20:11new idea is. Thinking you're late to Bitcoin
- 20:15is an ego test. It's just your ego fooling with
- 20:19you. Because late?
- 20:21Late to who? Bitcoin.
- 20:24There is no one taking attendance.
- 20:26Bitcoin doesn't. Bitcoin isn't even a human, it's
- 20:29a piece of software. It can't take attendance.
- 20:31It doesn't know time, it has no idea when you showed up.
- 20:34It doesn't even give a shit about who you are.
- 20:37So late to who? Oh, late when you compare
- 20:41yourself to other people, late when you compare yourself to
- 20:45your friends or to your siblings, that's what you're
- 20:48late. So Bitcoin is an ego test.
- 20:52I loved that as well. So I think it's a litmus test.
- 20:55It's an ego test. If you're willing to say, you
- 20:58know what, it is the hardest, best thing for me to own.
- 21:01It doesn't matter if I owned it later or earlier than any other
- 21:04person. That's not what life's about.
- 21:07Life's about being a great person and contributing to the
- 21:11future. And yeah, storing my, my wealth
- 21:14and something hard. But I found that interesting
- 21:17too, because the number one thing you get from no coiners is
- 21:19I'm late. It's like, oh, and you're not
- 21:21late. You're insecure.
- 21:24It's a it's, it's an ego test. It's it Bitcoin doesn't take
- 21:30attendance. It doesn't even know who you
- 21:31are. So you're not late.
- 21:33You're insecure. So as soon as you can fix
- 21:35whatever's going on inside of you, you can own Bitcoin and
- 21:38Bitcoin will reward you for that.
- 21:40But I love the litmus test and the ego test.
- 21:42It was the first time I heard that.
- 21:43But yesterday when I was talking all these no coiners and
- 21:46everyone's like, oh, I'm late, I'm late.
- 21:48Well, probably put down the booze.
- 21:50You sound insecure. You don't sound late.
- 21:54Love it. Love it.
- 21:55OK, well, look, I've never heard it framed like that.
- 21:58Me and Nico constantly talk about on the show as well, like,
- 22:01you got to humble yourself to get to Bitcoin.
- 22:04We've seen the problem with a lot of the billionaires and
- 22:06celebrities out there, the incredibly smart people, the
- 22:09smart money out there, that it's hard for them to grasp Bitcoin
- 22:13because they can't humble themselves.
- 22:15And I think on the flip side, I really like this framing that
- 22:17Jack Mahler's is kind of, you know, talking about today is
- 22:20like people have to check their ego in so many ways.
- 22:24When you get to Bitcoin, first you got to humble yourself that
- 22:26maybe there's things you don't know about the world.
- 22:29Maybe there's a new technology coming out.
- 22:31But like you're never late to Bitcoin.
- 22:33In the 90s, were you late to the Internet because you adopted it
- 22:37after them? Did you not also benefit from
- 22:39using the Internet? This is where we are right now.
- 22:42Everyone has a problem on planet Earth.
- 22:44There's 8 billion people on planet Earth.
- 22:46We all have a similar problem and we can't save and Fiat
- 22:48money. This is the status quo.
- 22:50And so yes, maybe you missed the gains of, of the Ogs that bought
- 22:54it at what, $0.10 a dollar, 100 dollars, $1000.
- 22:58But as the saying goes, it's going up forever, Everything
- 23:02divided by 21 million. You are never late to Bitcoin.
- 23:05You're never late to protecting your purchasing power with
- 23:08Bitcoin. Yes, maybe you're going to miss
- 23:10the gains if you're only think of it as an investment.
- 23:13But when you think of it as hard money, as sound money, as
- 23:17something that's going to store your value for the long future,
- 23:20you're never late to Bitcoin. And again, you know, it's been a
- 23:23divisive, you know, 2024, the election cycles coming out,
- 23:27everyone's slinging mud at each other.
- 23:29But Bitcoin doesn't care about your politics, your religion,
- 23:33your creed. It's just a protocol.
- 23:35It's just sound money. It's just tik toking next
- 23:38blocking along the way to the future.
- 23:41And hey, it's here for you when you need Bitcoin.
- 23:43So once you're ready to humble yourself and you're ready to be
- 23:46like, am I ready for Bitcoin? What are the benefits of
- 23:50Bitcoin? It's going to be there for you.
- 23:51You're never going to be late to Bitcoin.
- 23:53Yes, maybe you're going to miss the what, like million percent
- 23:56gains if you bought Bitcoin at like 1 penny, but there's still
- 24:00gains to be had. You're still going to protect
- 24:01your person purchasing power. You're never late to Bitcoin.
- 24:04You're never late to protecting your value and storing it in
- 24:08something that cannot be debased.
- 24:10And This is why we need to constantly educate people.
- 24:12Hopefully people will humble themselves to the king.
- 24:16There's still a lot of education to be had out here, so hey, we
- 24:19still got a job here Nico. So what's your thoughts on this
- 24:22brother? Yeah, absolutely.
- 24:23So I think you made a really good point, right.
- 24:26And first of all, Bitcoin's a humility test without a shadow
- 24:29of a doubt. And one thing that I also got to
- 24:31add too is like, you know, OK, fine, you missed it from a penny
- 24:35to 70 K. But you know, Michael Saylor is
- 24:40expecting conservatively 29% annual compound growth for the
- 24:47next 21 years until the year 2045.
- 24:51So you know, you're talking about, and this is his base
- 24:55case, this isn't even his bowl case.
- 24:57You're talking about $13 million Bitcoin by the year 2045, right?
- 25:03Someone's saying in the chat, you know, 660%, right.
- 25:07But let's, let's, let's make it a little bit conservative. 29%,
- 25:12ladies and gentlemen, look, I, I ask you use a compound interest
- 25:16calculator and it will blow your mind what 29% annual compound
- 25:24growth could like what, what it can achieve for you and your
- 25:27financial future. And even when even when Sailor
- 25:31said, look, eventually this is going to kind of start to, you
- 25:35know, it's going to start to tail off.
- 25:36And you're not going to you're not going to see these like 50%
- 25:40or 100% annual compound annual, you know, interest or growth
- 25:44rate. Even when it gets to, you know,
- 25:47let's say 2045, it's still going to beat the S&P 500.
- 25:51I mean, this is just better money.
- 25:54So even if you missed the initial kind of adoption phase,
- 25:58which you still have the window of opportunity of joining that
- 26:01train right now, it like it's kind of like, oh, I miss
- 26:05Bitcoin. I'm salty about it because other
- 26:08people got in before me and because I'm salty about it
- 26:12because my name is Peter Schiff. I'm just not going to use better
- 26:15money at all. Like that makes no sense
- 26:18whatsoever. Of course you're going to want
- 26:19to use better money. Like if you have a choice
- 26:21between something that is designed to lose purchasing
- 26:25power over time and you have a choice between using that and
- 26:29Bitcoin, which is designed to gain in purchasing power over
- 26:32time. I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even
- 26:35say it's designed to gain in purchasing power over time, but
- 26:38it's designed to correctly reflect how the world should
- 26:43naturally function because of the productivity gains.
- 26:48That means the world should be naturally deflationary.
- 26:51Things should naturally get cheaper over time, like
- 26:54technology. Things should just get cheaper.
- 26:57But you're not seeing that because government intervention
- 27:01and manipulation of money. Bitcoin comes in and says you
- 27:04can't manipulate me, you can't change my monetary policy.
- 27:08So it properly reflects how pricing should work around the
- 27:13world. And This is why central banks
- 27:17and governments see this as an existential threat.
- 27:20They see Bitcoin, they're like, Oh my God, like we can't have
- 27:23this happen. Like the smoking gun to me was
- 27:26when the ECB wrote that report, you know, doing the, the class
- 27:30warfare bullshit. You know, that, that, that a lot
- 27:33of lot of these politicians used to divide and conquer, but
- 27:36basically saying like making the case that, oh, the gig is up,
- 27:39like we can't coexist if Bitcoin survives.
- 27:43You know, if Bitcoin like, and, and, and if you like, just
- 27:45think, think about that for a second.
- 27:47I'm going to pass it on to James with his final thought.
- 27:49Like, if you think about that for a second, like it's like we
- 27:53can't allow people to save and earn in money of which we can't
- 27:58steal from. If you boil it down to the very
- 28:02basics of what that paper is all about.
- 28:05And coincidentally, the Federal Reserve released a paper on the
- 28:09same day. Coincidence, right?
- 28:11Yeah. I mean, it tells you everything
- 28:13you need to know, man. These people are evil.
- 28:15These people, they really believe that they're entitled to
- 28:20your work, to your energy, to your money.
- 28:23They they feel entitled to being able to steal from you, which is
- 28:26insane, right? And Bitcoin is basically saying
- 28:29like, no, enough is enough. I'm going to take this into self
- 28:33custody. My purchasing power is
- 28:35protected. I'm going to be fine.
- 28:37Anyways, James, what's your take on all this man?
- 28:40Yeah, I mean, what what's interesting or eye opening to me
- 28:43from what Maj. is saying is that, you know, people are
- 28:46saying they're late to Bitcoin. These normies that he's hanging
- 28:48out with are late to Bitcoin and to me, obviously they they don't
- 28:53understand Bitcoin. They haven't studied it yet,
- 28:55which is fine. You know, I was in that position
- 28:57too where I thought I was late to things.
- 28:59I looked at Bitcoin as if it were a stock, right?
- 29:02And I was late to the tech stocks.
- 29:05I was late to Facebook, late to Apple, late to Amazon, late to
- 29:08Tesla and you know, it's it's easy to not buy once you're late
- 29:12to it, but they it's just they're looking at these as to
- 29:15me stocks. They don't understand what
- 29:16Bitcoin really is and it's that that's obviously very
- 29:22interesting. I don't obviously you're not
- 29:23late to it, right? You're not late to something
- 29:25that you could hold in self custody.
- 29:27This is the first time you can hold money in self custody on a
- 29:30titanium plate like this. To me, you're early still,
- 29:33right? Like this is a totally different
- 29:35concept from what these normies, as he says, which they are, are
- 29:40connecting Bitcoin too. It's not a stock, it's not a
- 29:43commodity, It's not anything else that they were probably
- 29:45also late to in the past. This is a totally different
- 29:48thing. So it's just a matter of
- 29:50studying Bitcoin for the masses, right?
- 29:52And that's something that we're seeing happening more.
- 29:55I really think that HBO documentary is something that,
- 29:58you know, we all don't agree with it, but there were some
- 30:00good concepts in there that is helping people understand what
- 30:03Bitcoin really is, how it's different from stocks, how it's
- 30:06different from other cryptos. And I think that's very
- 30:09important. You know, and a lot of people,
- 30:11right, you're late to Bitcoin. So what am I early to?
- 30:13I'm early to the next Bitcoin that's a penny or $0.10 per coin
- 30:17because, you know, unit bias is a thing and people want to have
- 30:20a full coin. So why don't we get 1000 of
- 30:23these, you know, bullshit crypto coins when, you know, instead of
- 30:26getting Bitcoin where I'd only get a percentage of.
- 30:29So I think that there's also like ego there, as he touched
- 30:32upon with the whole unit bias and people want a full amount of
- 30:35something. They don't realize what SAT's
- 30:38are. You know, I'm sure that's the
- 30:40case for probably 90% of normies, if not more.
- 30:43They don't understand that SAT's sort of thing that you can buy
- 30:45portions of Bitcoin and then SAT's for dollars like what
- 30:48probably like 1300 right now or something like that.
- 30:51I, I look at it like that SAT's per dollar anytime it's over one
- 30:55SAT per dollar, I feel like you're getting a deal just
- 30:57because you know, I do have a little bit of you to buy still.
- 30:59If I can get 1300 SAT's per dollar, I'll take that any day
- 31:02of the week. So we are very early obviously.
- 31:05And I just think that there is too much of A connection to you
- 31:10know, the Fiat state or stocks when it comes to saying they're
- 31:12late to something. Obviously everyone feels like,
- 31:15you know, they, they missed the boat on these tech stocks early
- 31:18on. Now they feel like they missed
- 31:19the boat on on Bitcoin and that's just, yeah, that's just
- 31:23not the case. And then as far as yeah, I mean,
- 31:29you're not late, right? That's just you're elite.
- 31:31Buy Bitcoin, hold it in self custody before it is too late to
- 31:36do that. Absolutely, absolutely.
- 31:38Niko James, you actually said something that I found very
- 31:41interesting because I experienced that when I got into
- 31:44Bitcoin. Obviously you kind of feel late
- 31:46because you're looking at other people, you're comparing
- 31:49yourself to other people and you're like, man, I wish I
- 31:51bought Bitcoin at $100, but I got in at 10/20/30 K Bitcoin.
- 31:55Like I missed the boat. But I'm reminded of my initial
- 31:58Bitcoin journey. And when I look at my own
- 32:01personal journey, I did hear that you're late to Bitcoin, but
- 32:04it usually comes from alt coiners and shit coiners that
- 32:07are trying to sell you an altcoin and be like, oh, you're
- 32:10late to Bitcoin, but you're early to this coin.
- 32:12Without ever getting into the details that like it's most
- 32:15likely a corporation and most likely the founders of that
- 32:18altcoin, you know, bought or or you know, pre mined the majority
- 32:22of the coin and they're dumping on you.
- 32:24And so there is a lot of snake oil salesman out there trying to
- 32:27tell you that Bitcoin that you are late to Bitcoin.
- 32:30But in reality, again, you just boil it down to memes,
- 32:33everything divided by 21 million.
- 32:35You're never late to Bitcoin. You're never late to storing
- 32:37your value. Just keep stacking Bitcoin, stay
- 32:40calm, stay humble and stack SAT's.
- 32:43This is the way. This is a tried intrude playbook
- 32:46for succeeding in Bitcoin is just buying Bitcoin, taking in
- 32:49the cold storage and continuing to buy Bitcoin.
- 32:52And this is how you win at this sound money game.
- 32:55It's a game of accumulation. Yeah, and don't listen to the
- 32:57noise, right? Like those same people they're,
- 32:59you know, they're saying they were late to Bitcoin.
- 33:00Well, they didn't held it, right.
- 33:02Are they going to hold it when they bought that 10 cents?
- 33:04100% not. They would have sold that shit
- 33:05for the next thing that they thought they were going to be
- 33:07late to. Because it's a matter of
- 33:08understanding, right? You have to study Bitcoin to
- 33:10understand and what it is. Then you'd realize how where you
- 33:13are because there's nothing else like it.
- 33:15You know you're late when there's there's no more block
- 33:18rewards. Vote for Bitcoin.
- 33:20You know when the last haven't hits.
- 33:21That's that's maybe when you're late.
- 33:22So you have plenty of time. Let's go.
- 33:25Totally agree. Is it time to hit the news Opti?
- 33:28It is time to hit the news, but before we move on, there is 1500
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- 36:21All right guys, let's get into today's news story.
- 36:23So we covered this a while ago and this is not the news story,
- 36:25but we got to lay the context here.
- 36:28So remember, you know, halfway through summer, a couple of
- 36:31months ago, everyone was freaking out about the fact that
- 36:34the German government is sold. Well, it wasn't, it wasn't
- 36:37actually the whole German government, but a province or a
- 36:39state, I forget what you call it.
- 36:40Germany, they said and sold, you know, hundreds of millions of
- 36:45dollars of the Bitcoin. They emptied their treasury.
- 36:47They sold it all. And then, you know, lo and
- 36:50behold, a couple of months later, the Bitcoin price just
- 36:52starts pumping. And we joked on the show that
- 36:55this is the real separation of money and state.
- 36:57When a government and nation states out there start to sell
- 37:01the Bitcoin that they confiscated from their citizens,
- 37:05well, we got an interest seeing another interesting news story
- 37:08coming out of Germany, which is more on, you know, the private
- 37:12business level. So German telecom giant Deutsche
- 37:15Telekom pioneers Bitcoin mining project using green energy.
- 37:19You heard that correctly. One of the biggest
- 37:22telecommunications company in Germany is going to start a
- 37:26Bitcoin mining project using green energy.
- 37:29Of course, I'm over here on Yahoo Finance and we got
- 37:32Deutsche Telekom's tech arm MMS has partnered with Bank US
- 37:36Metzler, a traditional banking company to introduce a novel
- 37:40Bitcoin mining project using excess renewable energy in
- 37:44Germany. The pioneering pilot represents
- 37:46a major step towards the future of sustainable cryptocurrency
- 37:49mining. And this is the initiative from
- 37:51the parent company of T-Mobile following the successful
- 37:54implementation of similar energy regulation mining operations
- 37:58that were realized in the US and Finland.
- 38:00This pilot in Germany will validate the effectiveness of
- 38:03using Bitcoin mining as a dynamic power regulation tool
- 38:07within Europe's largest economy, which is very interesting
- 38:10considering that a lot of the stuff we're seeing coming out of
- 38:12Germany, not only Germany, sorry, Europe is them fighting
- 38:16Bitcoin mining, them saying, you know, we're going to boil the
- 38:18oceans and we're using all the energy of, you know, said little
- 38:22country. Wait, what?
- 38:23Which one was it? Nico unplugged Denmark.
- 38:25We've never been covering this for a while.
- 38:27They've been saying, oh, Bitcoin's using way too much
- 38:29energy. You know, it's using more energy
- 38:31than Denmark. And of course, as a Bitcoiner,
- 38:33we're like, hey, look, I love the people in Denmark, but I
- 38:36think Bitcoin has more use than any small country.
- 38:39This is a global monetary network.
- 38:42This is bigger than anyone country.
- 38:43I know we're talking about the elections, but Bitcoin is bigger
- 38:46than just the US. It's bigger than just Germany.
- 38:49It's bigger than every country in the world combined.
- 38:52And This is why it's so important to continue to
- 38:55facilitate an orange pail the masses and show that Bitcoin
- 38:59mining does improve the the electrical grid.
- 39:03We've seen this happen in Texas. We saw what's happened in Texas
- 39:06this year, last year. These models have been proven in
- 39:10real time that if you plug in Bitcoin mining operations, not
- 39:15only is going to sustain the grid, make it more flexible, but
- 39:21it's also going to potentially make your electricity bills
- 39:25cheaper. We saw this happen in Norway,
- 39:27and yet European countries still seem to fight this.
- 39:30And it's very interesting. In Germany particular, they've
- 39:33been having a lot of energy problems and they've been
- 39:35shutting down their, you know, big energy plant.
- 39:38And now it seems like an independent company has taken
- 39:41the leap and they're going to do a Bitcoin mining project and
- 39:45hopefully, you know, continue to prove to the world that, hey, if
- 39:49you start start a mining operation, not only is it going
- 39:52to put more money in your pocket, but it's going to be
- 39:55better for everyone out here. And of course, you know, secure
- 39:58the Bitcoin network, cashing some more coin, decentralize the
- 40:02Bitcoin mining operation. So let's read one more little
- 40:04thing here, another quote. And it goes with the growing
- 40:07number of renewable energy sources and the resulting
- 40:09fluctuations in available energy, the need for quickly
- 40:12available regulating power increases.
- 40:14For this we need mechanisms that can respond quickly to changes
- 40:18and absorb fluctuate. Durations and Bitcoin miners
- 40:21could play a crucial role in balancing the energy grid in the
- 40:24future due to the flexible load. So the signal spreading.
- 40:27We've seen this play out in Texas.
- 40:29Now we're seeing it play out in Europe.
- 40:31It's only a matter of time until everyone starts to catch on to
- 40:34this idea that, hey, you just plug in some Bitcoin mining
- 40:38operations. Not only is it going to be
- 40:39profitable, but it's good for the electrical grid.
- 40:42And look, I tried to verify this this morning, but a bunch of
- 40:46rumors are going out. Obviously, we don't know exactly
- 40:48what's going on with the hash rate currently.
- 40:50We can make some estimates of where the hash rate is going,
- 40:53but shout out to Matthew J in the chat.
- 40:54He's been saying this all year at the top of his lungs that
- 40:57we're going to hit one Zeta hash, which is 100.
- 41:01What's that? 100 XA hat, No 1000 XA hashes.
- 41:05And so I came over to BIPO charts.
- 41:07I tried to verify this from what the estimates I can see.
- 41:10And I and I connected this and I, you know, I backed this up
- 41:13with a couple of different ones. Estimates I'm seeing right now
- 41:16is 756 EXA hashes roughly. But some people are predicting
- 41:21and rumoring on Twitter that we are finally getting to 1000 EXA
- 41:25hashes, which of course is one Zeta hash.
- 41:28And as the meme goes, what's it Nico, price follows hash or is
- 41:34it hash that follows price? We don't really know, but it it
- 41:37goes to show that Bitcoin mining and the hash rate, it's going
- 41:41absolutely parabolic. You cannot put the cap back in
- 41:44the bag. Bitcoin is taking off everywhere
- 41:47yes, Bitcoin mining is kind of one of those topics that like
- 41:50really bores people. They only really care about the
- 41:52price movement, but I think this is a huge development going on,
- 41:55especially when it comes out of Europe.
- 41:57Europe's been fighting energy production for like all of this
- 42:01year for years at this point and now we have at least a Bitcoin
- 42:05mining operation, at least a new project in the belly of the
- 42:08beast. Just going to continue to prove
- 42:09that, hey, Bitcoin mining improves planet Earth.
- 42:13It is not here wasting energy. It is not, you know, taking
- 42:17energy from other people that need it.
- 42:19Bitcoin is sucking up energy that would potentially be
- 42:22sitting there dormant, not being used.
- 42:25And hey, Bitcoin is capitalism. I think Bitcoin mining is the
- 42:28truest form of capitalism. And hey, these these projects
- 42:32are happening in real time. I think they're only going to
- 42:34increase. So Nico, as the resident X miner
- 42:37here, what is your thoughts on, you know, Germany's, one of
- 42:41Germany's biggest telecommunications operations
- 42:44companies out there starting a Bitcoin mining operation?
- 42:48Yeah, I mean, look, it it, it doesn't surprise me whatsoever.
- 42:52I think this is a trend that you're starting to see all
- 42:55around the world. Japan's largest energy company
- 42:58called TEPCO also announced that they're going to use excess
- 43:03energy to mine Bitcoin. Also, you're starting to hear
- 43:06very similar stories coming out of the Middle East as well where
- 43:11you have nation States and governments.
- 43:12Russia just made Bitcoin mining legal.
- 43:16Again, you have the news coming out of the Kingdom of Bhutan
- 43:20that is partnering up with publicly traded companies
- 43:23specifically bit dear to expand their to use their excess
- 43:27hydroelectric capabilities to mine Bitcoin.
- 43:31Of course you have Paraguay. Of course you have Bitcoin
- 43:34country El Salvador that is mining Bitcoin as well using the
- 43:38geothermal energy coming out of their volcanoes.
- 43:41So yeah, this is a trend that you're seeing worldwide.
- 43:44This is a trend that you're that I suspect is going to continue
- 43:48because remember guys like Bitcoin uses stranded energy.
- 43:52And if you are not going to use that energy, that energy would
- 43:57as much as the New York Times would like, like would like you
- 44:00to believe otherwise this energy would is going away.
- 44:05So no one's using this like if you're, you know, extracting
- 44:10natural gas and you're in the middle of nowhere or, or
- 44:13potentially you're, you're, you know, you're, you're extracting
- 44:16oil and one of the, you know, one of the things that you're
- 44:19going to get from extracting oil is potentially gas coming out as
- 44:22well. You know what they do with that
- 44:23gas? They literally set it on fire.
- 44:25They set that methane on fire. Why not turn that into Bitcoin?
- 44:29Why not turn that excess energy into Bitcoin?
- 44:32You have these massive dams that were built.
- 44:34That's why so much of the, the, the, the hash rate was
- 44:38centralized in China. You have these massive dans that
- 44:41were built out in, you know, in, in very rural areas in China
- 44:45that were very far away from city population centers.
- 44:48So you had this tremendous amount of hydroelectric power
- 44:54that no one was buying, right? That's where Bitcoin miners
- 44:57could they can go anywhere. They're very nimble.
- 45:00As long as you have a, you know, a somewhat, it doesn't even
- 45:05even, it doesn't even need to be stable.
- 45:07It doesn't even need to be a fast Internet connection.
- 45:09As long as you have some type of Internet connection and you have
- 45:13a power source to plug in those miners, you could set up these
- 45:16miners anywhere, right? And that completely changes the
- 45:19energy game. So does this surprise me
- 45:22whatsoever? No, this is a continuation of
- 45:24the trend and this is going to continue to accelerate and
- 45:28Bitcoin is fundamentally going to change the energy landscape
- 45:32worldwide. James, what are your Yeah, well
- 45:37said, man. And for me, Bitcoin mining is
- 45:40probably what made me the most bullish on Bitcoin.
- 45:42It was kind of like the cherry on top for even once I finally
- 45:45understood how we could take that stranded energy from around
- 45:48the world and turn it into something.
- 45:50There's obviously, you know, there's waterfalls in remote
- 45:53parts of the world, springs, dams, as you mentioned, just the
- 45:58amount of stranded energy that's out there could be put to use
- 46:01and could be put that be put into place to mine Bitcoin for
- 46:04more, you know, cleaner energy. And I, I think like with a lot
- 46:09of, you know, a lot of people think Bitcoin's bad for the, you
- 46:12know, environment because of all the energy it uses.
- 46:15And I think that that's like similar to how people say they
- 46:18relate to Bitcoin. That might be another thing
- 46:20that's on the top of normally's minds when you bring up Bitcoin
- 46:23and it's it's really not the case.
- 46:25And when you really start to understand what mining does and
- 46:29how it just makes everything greener and cleaner and how
- 46:32you're using stuff that just getting put to waste anyway, it
- 46:35puts things in perspective. It's like nothing is going to
- 46:37stop that train. And I think that the same people
- 46:40who, you know, the same mouthpieces that are out there
- 46:43telling people that Bitcoins bad from the environment that uses
- 46:45too much energy. It's the incentives for mining
- 46:49Bitcoin for this transgenity are too strong where those
- 46:50mouthpieces are going to flip against what they're saying.
- 46:53And you know, it it it's the incentive is too strong on the
- 46:56other side, right? They're going to flip what
- 46:58they're saying. And then these same norm is
- 46:59going to be, you know, reversing what they say.
- 47:01And Bitcoin's not, it doesn't use too much energy and it's not
- 47:04bad for the environment. So I think it's a very powerful
- 47:08narrative that needs to get flipped.
- 47:10And I just don't see like that flipping is inevitable to me,
- 47:14the, the incentives to mining Bitcoin, like I, I don't like,
- 47:17I'm not as like super advanced with understanding it, but I
- 47:21understand enough to just know that there's no reason to not
- 47:24mine Bitcoin and to utilize stranded energy natural, you
- 47:29know, like waterfalls around the world to, to, to mine it and to
- 47:34save that energy and a battery and redisperse it throughout the
- 47:36grid. It just, it doesn't make sense
- 47:38not to. And like some like entity like
- 47:40Greenpeace or any of these organizations that are out
- 47:44there, if they're worth any of their salt, they would, they
- 47:46would understand that and embrace it.
- 47:48And I think it's just a matter of time for them to do so their
- 47:51handlers or whoever has to tell them it's OK.
- 47:54And I just think that's inevitable.
- 47:55So to me, it may be the most bullish on Bitcoin that that I
- 47:59was prior to understanding what mining was.
- 48:01So study mining, study Bitcoin and I, I think it's great that
- 48:06governments are starting to mine Bitcoin themselves.
- 48:08Obviously you could mine Bitcoin yourself too, become a solo
- 48:11miner, learn a little bit about it and help protect the network.
- 48:15It's kind of crazy that if you know the network goes down and
- 48:17all you have is a bit AX or solo Satoshi like I got running here,
- 48:21you can keep everything running still.
- 48:22So it's pretty powerful stuff. Yeah, 100%.
- 48:25I love the bid axe. I love that project and you know
- 48:29it, it also like represents the bid axe to like imagine if a
- 48:33million people or like 5 million people were each running a bid
- 48:37axe at home. Like cumulatively that adds to,
- 48:40you know, some it's it's a decent amount of hash rate and
- 48:44like good luck trying to shut that down.
- 48:46Like good luck. How are you going to find that?
- 48:48Like, you know, it's like good luck, right?
- 48:50And this is, I think, and you're going to see this, this trend.
- 48:54Bob Burnett, dear friend and also the CEO and founder of
- 48:59Barefoot mining. You know, he made this
- 49:01presentation called basically laying out the different types
- 49:05of mining operations. So once he calls the elephants
- 49:08and these are these large mining facilities run by the public
- 49:11miners and then the horses, which are these like off grid,
- 49:17but pretty decently sized Bitcoin mines.
- 49:20And then the rabbits, right? So the rabbits are like, you
- 49:23know, they're very nimble because it's a small mining
- 49:25operation. I was making a joke that the bid
- 49:28axe is like, it's like a, it's like a lizard, like it's like a
- 49:32fly. There's like a mosquito, like a.
- 49:34Fly Mosquito. You can't make this.
- 49:36No way. Good luck finding that.
- 49:38So yeah, I'm just, I'm very bullish, you know, and, and
- 49:41again, I, I think people are sleeping on how much Bitcoin is
- 49:45going to transform the energy energy industry because it
- 49:50changes everything. Like now there is an energy
- 49:53buyer of last resort. Like holy cow, that is a big
- 49:58effing deal anyways guys. Totally, totally.
- 50:01Hey Nico, one more one last thing because our our reigning
- 50:04has hash rate expert. He's been on the beat all year.
- 50:07So just clarifying one thing, Matthew J in the chat, he goes,
- 50:11we hit 945 EXA hashes on October 21st.
- 50:14So today it seems like we hit, you know, one Zeta hash or 1000
- 50:19EXA hashes. But the weekly or monthly moving
- 50:21averages of hash rate are around the 700 EXA hash ranges.
- 50:25So it looks like Matthew's prediction of one Zeta hash in
- 50:282024 has come true. Now the the moving average will
- 50:32have to move up going into 2025. But yeah, incredible, incredible
- 50:37stuff. It's almost like you can't kill
- 50:39this Bitcoin thing. It's almost like it's taking
- 50:41over the world. It's almost like Citadel
- 50:43technology is about to be proliferated and we're going to
- 50:46have Bitcoin mining operations in places where energy cannot
- 50:49get to. We can't get to the energy.
- 50:51It's going to be incredible. It really is insane what Bitcoin
- 50:54mining can proliferate on planet Earth.
- 50:56Anyways, let's get into the culture and let's talk with
- 51:00James about the stamp seed. Let's do it.
- 51:14Let's go boys and girls. Of course, make sure you go to
- 51:17orangepoolapp.com stack friends who stack sats As you can tell,
- 51:21Bitcoin is taking over the world and if you are the sole lone
- 51:25crazy bitcoiner in your community, you need to take
- 51:29these relationships you've built from the interwebs on to meat
- 51:33space because hey things things have gotten crazy in the last
- 51:37couple of years and you want to be around like minded
- 51:39individuals. So get on the orange pelap stack
- 51:42friends who stack sats, maybe creating a then if you if you
- 51:45don't find other people in your area, maybe there's more people
- 51:48that are kind of in a similar boat.
- 51:50Create an event, go to events, go to meetups.
- 51:52Make sure you are meeting with Bitcoiners in meat space.
- 51:56This is how we ensure that the Bitcoin social layer continues
- 52:00to proliferate. All right, Nico, since you know,
- 52:03I'm in the driver's seat, you're in the coho seat today, you're
- 52:07handling the culture. What's up bro?
- 52:10Yeah. So guys, you guys know the deal.
- 52:12We're very, very on who we decide to partner with, like our
- 52:18partners have to align with the simply Bitcoin ethos and guys
- 52:23like ultimately it comes down to this.
- 52:26Bitcoin is pretty simple. You buy Bitcoin, you earn
- 52:29Bitcoin, you mine Bitcoin, and you put that Bitcoin into self
- 52:33custody. Thing is with self custody, self
- 52:36custody comes with a tremendous amount of responsibility.
- 52:40That responsibility you've been used to outsourcing to a third
- 52:44party, right? When if you outsource something
- 52:46to a third party, you open yourself to an attack vector,
- 52:49they can rug pull you. So when you take self custody,
- 52:53one of the things that you got to do is you got to write down
- 52:55your seed words. Problem is that that little
- 52:59piece of paper that you know, you usually get with the
- 53:02hardware wallet it you know, right, it's, it sucks like I
- 53:12don't know what else to tell you.
- 53:13Like Can you imagine having like theoretically, right you buy,
- 53:18you know, $30,000 worth of Bitcoin today and then 20 years
- 53:23from now it's worth millions of dollars and your backup is a
- 53:27paper. That's not the way to do it,
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- 54:27This thing has been stress tested.
- 54:29Like when is that ever going to happen?
- 54:31When is your seed phrase ever going to be blowtorched and then
- 54:35dumped in water and then ran over by a semi truck?
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- 54:53So James, I mean, what made you come up with this idea of, of
- 54:57seed phrase storage, right? And also you don't usually see
- 55:02titanium a lot, right? Usually you see like other types
- 55:06of metals, but you don't see titanium.
- 55:09And I'm not really like a metal nerd, like a metal junkie.
- 55:12I don't really know my metals very well.
- 55:14What is the big difference between something like titanium
- 55:18and something like steel? Yeah.
- 55:22So to kick that off, difference between titanium and steel,
- 55:25steel still a good medium to stamp your seed phrase into.
- 55:28The downsides of steel though, to me, or it's a little bit
- 55:30harder to stamp deeply into. Obviously you want to get your
- 55:33letters into the the metal as deep as possible.
- 55:36If just kind of scratched on the surface, it almost looks like
- 55:39it's engraved in there like chicken scratch.
- 55:41If it gets scratched against concrete wall or there's
- 55:45destruction on a home or wherever it's stored, that could
- 55:48be risky. So the deeper you're stamping
- 55:50your seat in, the better obviously.
- 55:52And then another benefit of titanium is that it's completely
- 55:55rust proof. Like this thing is never going
- 55:57to catch rust. It's not even going to show a
- 55:58hint of rust on it. So if you have it stored in a
- 56:01basement or a damp environment or you want to bury it in the
- 56:04ground raw outside, like just dig a hole and put this right in
- 56:07there. It's never going to rust on you.
- 56:10You're not you're not going to have to deal with corrosion or
- 56:11anything like that. With steel, you will.
- 56:13So a little bit easier to stand deeply into and rust proof.
- 56:18So for long term generational wealth, titanium for me is the
- 56:20best medium that you have out there.
- 56:23And then as far as how we kind of came up with this concept,
- 56:27it's pretty interesting. So I work for a company that
- 56:31sells all these metal stamps, these hammers, everything that
- 56:34you see here like this, right? And we noticed people buying
- 56:38these things on Amazon, not the stamp seed ones, ones that were
- 56:40a little bit more craft and hobby like that weren't really
- 56:44meant to stamp into hard materials.
- 56:46So working the search term reports on some digital ads, I
- 56:50started seeing things pop up that were connected to sales,
- 56:54right? Like people are buying these
- 56:55products and their searches are things like Bitcoin hammer,
- 56:59Bitcoin metal plate letter stamps for Bitcoin C And at the
- 57:04time I was kind of getting more into my Bitcoin phase.
- 57:07I was still in a little bit of a shit coin mindset.
- 57:09I didn't really understand what any of that stuff was.
- 57:12I knew what Bitcoin was, but I didn't understand what the C
- 57:14plate was. So I was in research mode from
- 57:16there. One, because I was kind of
- 57:17curious because I'm into Bitcoin 2, because this thing is
- 57:21converting, it's getting U.S. sales and you know how to be
- 57:23optimized and lean into this. Is there anything you know, I
- 57:26need to learn to make sure this listing makes sense, to make
- 57:28sure the product line makes sense and everything to that
- 57:32effect? So what that eventually turned
- 57:34into was me going down the Bitcoin rabbit hole literally,
- 57:37which is pretty, pretty crazy. You know, I have to understand
- 57:40what seed words were, OK? You know, they get generated
- 57:44from a private key, and the private key gets generated from
- 57:46the hardware ball. So I have to kind of backtrack
- 57:49like this is like, snap your seeds.
- 57:50Here's the last thing you do. I kind of had to like, start
- 57:53there and go work backwards and understand, like why people were
- 57:55doing it and what the incentive was Initially.
- 57:57I was like, all right, how do you put your money in metal?
- 57:59Like that's actually the Bitcoin?
- 58:01That's pretty intriguing. But, you know, you start to step
- 58:03back and slowly learn exactly what it was.
- 58:06And, you know, doing all that fueled me to, you know, put
- 58:10something together that makes sense for people who are buying
- 58:13the products already to build something for them that's meant
- 58:18for stamping their Bitcoin. A harder metal, a heavier
- 58:20hammer, you know, better stamps the stamping jig that is, you
- 58:25know, this is going to be holding your plate in place,
- 58:28making sure it's not bouncing around when you're stamping,
- 58:30things bounce and they go kind of crazy.
- 58:31So this keeps everything intact because obviously, you know, the
- 58:34people that were buying our product before stamps, he was a
- 58:37company. They knew what to do.
- 58:38They knew what metal stamps or the new hammers were and
- 58:40everything like that. So it wasn't really a concern
- 58:43with Bitcoiners. This is probably the first time
- 58:44they're ever doing something like this.
- 58:45So it has to be as foolproof as possible.
- 58:47So the entire kit makes it a very easy process for you and
- 58:52yeah, I mean, it's it's been a fun journey.
- 58:54We're developing a lot of great products along the line.
- 58:57We want to make sure we have everything for the beginner
- 58:59bitcoiner to the advanced bitcoiner.
- 59:01I see a lot of people in the chat asking for some new
- 59:04products that are going to be coming out soon.
- 59:06They're coming the 12 word play, the covers for these, you know,
- 59:10lowercase special characters. We're going to have everything
- 59:12that you to, you know, stamp your seed words in there deeply
- 59:15and benefit of like our kit, like we were talking about
- 59:19before, titanium versus steel. Steel still OK.
- 59:22I like titanium better. It's cooler.
- 59:24They use it to build spaceships for aerospace and everyone Ross,
- 59:27it's easier to stamp deep into. So those are all pros there.
- 59:30Another good benefit of the kit is that with a lot of the other
- 59:33solutions out there, like if you were to buy like one of those
- 59:35cassettes, right, that holds little letter tiles in place,
- 59:39which whatever, they're fine. I guess they're better than
- 59:41paper. You have to buy like a new one
- 59:43every time you need to stamp the seat work.
- 59:45So if you have some sort of multi 6 set up with a three of
- 59:48five, let's say you would need five of those units with our
- 59:51kit, you buy the kit once and you get as many of these
- 59:53titanium plates as you need. And you know you do your whole
- 59:56multi 6 set up or you know, you have a second wallet that you're
- 1:00:00not keeping all your eggs in one basket.
- 1:00:01So you always have your kit. You just get your plates kind of
- 1:00:03as you need them. So that's another.
- 1:00:06Nice bonus of ours and lastly, you know my biggest thing is you
- 1:00:09know you you put your words in this metal that's like super
- 1:00:12simple super low tech compared to like everything else that's
- 1:00:16going on in Bitcoin. We're talking about mining
- 1:00:17before like it seems very simple, but like that's fine.
- 1:00:20This should be simple right. You don't want something with a
- 1:00:23million little Parson pieces that are comprised of your seed
- 1:00:26words. Why?
- 1:00:27Because if the the more pieces, the more points of failure.
- 1:00:32If this thing were to bend, letters aren't falling out.
- 1:00:34If this thing were to go under heat and expand, letters aren't
- 1:00:37falling out. The letters become one with the
- 1:00:39metal. They're in there.
- 1:00:41It's pretty much as close. You can get some writing on
- 1:00:43paper, but with metal, like you write on the paper, you don't
- 1:00:46put little pieces of paper glued onto the paper.
- 1:00:49You write on the paper. So you stamp into the metal.
- 1:00:51So why would you take the shortcut and take those little
- 1:00:54tiles and put them in? That's, that's not proof of
- 1:00:56work, that's taking a shortcut because you might think it's
- 1:00:59easier. What are we doing, right?
- 1:01:00We're backing up generational wealth.
- 1:01:02So, you know, these things should take time.
- 1:01:05You want premium tools that are meant to do the job that are
- 1:01:08high quality because you're backing up something that is,
- 1:01:11you know, you're holding for life, most likely.
- 1:01:13And you know, like envy, I think it'd be K's rules.
- 1:01:17Like, you know, you 10X whatever amount of Bitcoin you have 10X
- 1:01:20that price, right? So if you have $10,000 in
- 1:01:22Bitcoin, look at that as if you have $100,000 in Bitcoin, the
- 1:01:25price goes up. You need to make sure that
- 1:01:27you're protected and safe. You don't want to have this
- 1:01:29stuff obviously on the exchange, but you also don't want to have
- 1:01:31it stored on paper. You want to have it on something
- 1:01:34a little more premium meant to be held for life.
- 1:01:37Pass it down to future generations.
- 1:01:39Let your grandkids know. How much are you legend you were
- 1:01:41for holding Bitcoin throughout the early twenty 20s and yeah,
- 1:01:47what else that's I mean and we you know, like you were talking
- 1:01:52about tests before we're always testing these things like I I
- 1:01:54firmly believe like nothing is going to really break this.
- 1:01:58I don't want to say nothing, but most scenarios like you're going
- 1:02:00to be safe with something like this like a sample where you can
- 1:02:02bury it. It'll last to triple the average
- 1:02:04house fire. It's easy to hide small form
- 1:02:07factor and and the whole 9 there.
- 1:02:09So yeah, I mean. So a couple couple things I want
- 1:02:15to chime in here. So usually guys, when you get
- 1:02:19yourself the kit right, so just because may perhaps it's a
- 1:02:23little bit difficult to visualize.
- 1:02:24So so here's the plate, right, that you guys get super, super
- 1:02:29nice. By the way, here is the plate
- 1:02:31that has been stress tested. So like, they literally put this
- 1:02:34in a stamping machine. They set it on fire and you
- 1:02:38could still read the words right?
- 1:02:41Like this is never realistically like, like maybe your building
- 1:02:45falls down and, oh, it says Miami there, That's cool.
- 1:02:50But yeah, so this is the plate that it comes with.
- 1:02:52And then it comes with this like anvil thing.
- 1:02:56And then what you do is you put the plate in the anvil thing and
- 1:03:00it has these little notches here.
- 1:03:02And it's very, very convenient, right?
- 1:03:04To kind of line it up so that you don't make mistakes.
- 1:03:07And then there's the then there's this little box that
- 1:03:10comes and it has all the letters, right?
- 1:03:13With the like the little letter stamping tools, camera focus,
- 1:03:16please, right. So that you literally take each
- 1:03:20letter, letter by letter. I don't have three hands, so I
- 1:03:23can't do this. But you get the letter, you line
- 1:03:25it up and then you you hammer it home and it leaves the
- 1:03:30impression. Thanks Opti.
- 1:03:33So the kit comes with everything and a question that we always
- 1:03:36get asked well is like you only need to buy this once.
- 1:03:43So the anvil, the letter stamping tools and the hammer,
- 1:03:48you only need to buy this once because if you need more plates,
- 1:03:51you can just buy the plates on their own.
- 1:03:53And that's very different with how most seed fraced storage
- 1:03:58solutions like metal storage solutions work where the whole
- 1:04:01kit is just one kit. And if you lose it, you can buy
- 1:04:05as many plates as you'd like. And they got, they got custom
- 1:04:07plates. We got some Simply Bitcoin
- 1:04:09plates as well. I don't know if they're on the
- 1:04:11website, but there's custom plates that you can find it all
- 1:04:13in the Stampede website. Opti's showing the Simply
- 1:04:16Bitcoin one, the limited edition.
- 1:04:19But yeah. That one's for me.
- 1:04:20So it's it's really not rocket science.
- 1:04:24Even though they use these titanium on rockets, it's not
- 1:04:26rocket science, nor should it be rocket science because you, you
- 1:04:30really just want to make it over the finish line with your
- 1:04:33Bitcoin, right? And it, it sounds like archaic.
- 1:04:37You're like bro, like, so you're saying I should pull my money
- 1:04:40out of a bank and like literally like stamp my words into a plate
- 1:04:45of titanium? Like what the fuck are you
- 1:04:47talking about? That's exactly what I'm telling
- 1:04:49you to do. And yes.
- 1:04:51This. Wait, wait, Nico, Nico, there's
- 1:04:54another piece of paper. Yeah, so this is how I
- 1:04:56personally store, how I personally store my seed words.
- 1:05:00This is how I do it. I literally hammer my seed words
- 1:05:03into a plate of titanium. And this is what I'm going to be
- 1:05:06giving to my grandchildren and their grandchildren.
- 1:05:10Because you don't need to. You don't need to reinvent the
- 1:05:12wheel like it's as simple as this.
- 1:05:14Because if not what? Most hardware wall, and they're
- 1:05:17not trying to bash them because they're not in the business of
- 1:05:20seed phrase storage. Most hardware wallets, they come
- 1:05:23with paper. And I already told you guys, you
- 1:05:25can set paper on fire. You can tear it up.
- 1:05:28Your dog, could he? Could you imagine having that
- 1:05:30conversation with your grandchild?
- 1:05:32It's like I bought Bitcoin in 2020.
- 1:05:35It's like, Oh yeah, you did. It's like what happened to that
- 1:05:37Bitcoin grandpapa. The dog ate it.
- 1:05:40Like that's gonna be a terrible conversation.
- 1:05:43Or you can save yourself that horrible conversation that
- 1:05:46you're gonna have by getting yourself a stamp seat kit.
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- 1:05:55It's 4 bitcoiners and they're coming out with some very cool
- 1:05:59stuff down the pipeline. This is the when I, when I get
- 1:06:04my parents or my family or any of my family members and I and I
- 1:06:09go down, this is always a fucking rabbit hole.
- 1:06:11When I go down the, the self custody rabbit hole with them, I
- 1:06:15get them a stamp seed kit and you know, and then they hammer
- 1:06:19the letters in. Sometimes they make mistakes and
- 1:06:21I have to get another plate, but it makes it easy, right?
- 1:06:25So, yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool.
- 1:06:27Opti, I know loves it as well. Highly, highly recommend it.
- 1:06:31And we're very, very happy to have James on today because this
- 1:06:34is an incredible product. Anyways, James, let's talk a
- 1:06:36little bit about the hammer design because there is
- 1:06:38something that you brought up last time that was really
- 1:06:40clever. So this isn't just a regular
- 1:06:43hammer. It has a special type of copper.
- 1:06:46What is it? What what type of metal is this?
- 1:06:47Yeah, so. I'll run you through it.
- 1:06:49So I have one right here. It's a metal stamping hammer.
- 1:06:53This is patented in the US for the art or act of metal
- 1:06:57stamping, nothing else. This, you know, it will hammer
- 1:06:59other things, but someone in the chat really wants me to say
- 1:07:03anvil. So I'll say anvil just to get it
- 1:07:04out of the way. It's a New York accent, I guess.
- 1:07:08Anyway, the hammer meant for metal stamping, US patent on it.
- 1:07:12And what makes it a metal stamping hammer one is it has a
- 1:07:15brass tip. And you can see on the brass tip
- 1:07:17right there, like there's dents in there.
- 1:07:19Like it's been, there's proof of work in that, in that tip,
- 1:07:22right? Yeah.
- 1:07:22Look at that. It's been.
- 1:07:25It's been. Yeah, there you go.
- 1:07:28Yeah. So that that's by design, right?
- 1:07:31Like you want a softer metal on the tip of that because you're
- 1:07:34not hammering a nail into wood, you're hammering a steel stamp
- 1:07:37into titanium plate that's resting on a steel anvil.
- 1:07:41So when you're hitting metal on metal, what's going to happen if
- 1:07:44you're using a steel hammer? It's when when you hit the
- 1:07:46stamp, let me get a stamp, it's going to bounce up on you.
- 1:07:50If you're hitting steel when you have brass, that denting is
- 1:07:53going to help drive the stamp down deeper and you're going to
- 1:07:55get a deeper result. It's called the dead blow.
- 1:07:58So that brass is softer than all the other metals that you're
- 1:08:00hammering into and then the impact is being absorbed by that
- 1:08:04hammer helping dry force down to give you a deeper result.
- 1:08:07Also, what makes this metal stamping hammer is it's got a
- 1:08:09short handle. If you have a longer handle and
- 1:08:12you're working kind of like back here, your aim is going to be
- 1:08:14off. You might hit something when
- 1:08:15you, when you're choking up on it, just like you're playing
- 1:08:17baseball, you choke up on the back, you hit the ball.
- 1:08:20You don't have to choke up on the hammer because the channel's
- 1:08:22already short. You know it's already there for
- 1:08:24you to get that nice hit. So you're working right over
- 1:08:27your stamp. You're not working far behind it
- 1:08:29and it has an angle to it too. You can't really see it on the
- 1:08:32video too much, but there's an angle to that hammer.
- 1:08:35This way you know when you're working over it, it's already
- 1:08:37pretty much the head of the hammer is going to be flushed
- 1:08:40with the head of the stamp. And lastly, it's a 2 LB weighted
- 1:08:44head. So other metal stamping hammers
- 1:08:47are out there, traditionally 1 LB.
- 1:08:49We beef this up to make it a 2 pounder just to make it easier
- 1:08:52to stamp. Like you don't really have to
- 1:08:53even hit it that hard. You can kind of just flick your
- 1:08:55wrist and, and get it in there pretty good.
- 1:08:57Like we've, we were at Bitcoin Nashville and there were like
- 1:09:00two kids, like 7 and 10 years old, I think, and they were
- 1:09:03stamping their names into it. It was like their little craft
- 1:09:06activity to do while they were with their parents at the
- 1:09:08Bitcoin conference. They had no issue stamping this.
- 1:09:10So the hammer and the tools make it 10 times easier to, to do it.
- 1:09:16So yeah, 100% no stamping hammer.
- 1:09:18And you know, we, we offered the kit without the hammer and
- 1:09:20without the anvil 2 just as other options for people because
- 1:09:24we had a lot of people saying, hey, I have a hammer ready.
- 1:09:26I want to use my hammer. I don't need this steel anvil.
- 1:09:30You know, I have a workbench, so I could just use the jig and hit
- 1:09:33it over a workbench. And that's why that option
- 1:09:34exists too. Yeah, and by the way, I saw
- 1:09:36someone ask in the in the chat how much is the kit with hammer,
- 1:09:40anvil, everything. It's $120.00.
- 1:09:43So for everything, so that is that's going to be for without
- 1:09:47the hammer and anvil, it's 196, but with your 21% off, you're
- 1:09:51getting close there. Yeah, so it's so 196 with
- 1:09:54everything included and use promo again.
- 1:09:58You use promo code simply for today and you get 21% off.
- 1:10:03See a lot of you guys scan the QR code.
- 1:10:05And also what was I going to say?
- 1:10:08You only have to buy this one time.
- 1:10:10So this will last for the rest of your life.
- 1:10:12You only have to buy this stuff right here and the letters and
- 1:10:17the letter tools and you won't need this like you just have to
- 1:10:21buy this one time unless you lose it, of course.
- 1:10:23These are the things that you'll keep on buying.
- 1:10:25I've personally bought in at least 50 because they're, I, I
- 1:10:30just, I'm a Bitcoin nerd and I just collect these things and,
- 1:10:33and I'm always going to like, what if I need this one day, you
- 1:10:36know, And it's kind of like the, the backup food supply stuff
- 1:10:40where you're just like, I'm just going to leave this because the
- 1:10:42world might end one day, you know?
- 1:10:44So anyways guys highly recommend it.
- 1:10:46And also, Nico, just to be clear, because we've had people
- 1:10:49say this in comments and stuff before, guys, you buy the kit.
- 1:10:53You do not send the seed phrase to James to stamp it.
- 1:10:57You do this at home. Home.
- 1:10:59You stamp this in the privacy of your own home.
- 1:11:02Never send anyone your private seed.
- 1:11:05We are not recommending you do that at all.
- 1:11:07You buy the kit for yourself and you stamp it at home, preferably
- 1:11:11with no cameras around. Exactly, exactly.
- 1:11:13You don't want your seed phrase touching the Internet and you
- 1:11:17want to store it properly. And that's why we recommend the
- 1:11:20stamp seed. Anyways, guys, this was simply
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- 1:11:30There's two choices on the ballot.
- 1:11:33We've we, this is we're beating a dead horse at this time.
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- 1:11:54you know, Ross gets freed and you know, I'll leave it at that.
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