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Waymo Locks Unruly Teens Inside| ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: You're list Saints kf I AM six forty The bill
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Speaker 1: fi AM six forty bill handle here, Good morning.
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Speaker 2: It is a day, Wednesday, July eighth, bottom of the hour.
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Speaker 2: It's Jim Kinney with medical News. A couple of big stories.
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Speaker 2: The ceasefire is ceasing itself because there is no cease
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Speaker 2: there's plenty of fire, so that's falling apart. The US
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Speaker 2: has attacked targets in Iran. Iran has attacked three ships
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Speaker 2: transversing the straight up Hormuz and it looks like we're
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Speaker 2: going back to where we were before. Although full scale
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Speaker 2: war I think still think is going to be averted,
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Speaker 2: and of course stocks dropping like a stone, oil prices
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Speaker 2: going up. Well, the vagaries of what's going on with
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Speaker 2: this war now a great story I want to share
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Speaker 2: with you. There was a waimo that was in San
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Speaker 2: Mateo with two teenagers in it and police stopped the
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Speaker 2: waimo and the teenagers were found drinking alcohol and shooting
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Speaker 2: toy guns in the back of the car and shooting
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Speaker 2: out the window. And social media from the San Mateo
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Speaker 2: Police Department shows the officers detained these two fifteen year
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Speaker 2: olds because the cops were called. Now who called the cops?
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Speaker 2: Weamo did. Waimo called the cops. I'll tell you even
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Speaker 2: better than that, is Wamo shut down the car and
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Speaker 2: they couldn't get out, locked the car, and then they
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Speaker 2: are inside the car. I don't know what the hell
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Speaker 2: they were doing. But a few minutes later the cops
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Speaker 2: show up and then Waimo unlocks the car and the
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Speaker 2: kids are arrested. Now, shooting toy guns out of the
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Speaker 2: window of a moving vehicle is no fun at all
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Speaker 2: because obviously these two people had a whole few brains.
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Speaker 2: That's not real smart. And what they were shooting was
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Speaker 2: something called or bees. Didn't even know those existed out
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Speaker 2: the windows. These small beads water absorbing. They're described so
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Speaker 2: that toy stores. They're shell guns.
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Speaker 3: Okay, they're these tiny, little I don't know, maybe eight
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Speaker 3: ten millimeter balls, but they're small. When you get them,
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Speaker 3: you soilk them in water and they imbibe themselves and
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Speaker 3: it's like similar to a paint gun sort of, and
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Speaker 3: it shoots them, usually with compressed air, and they splat.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you got hit in the eye or
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Speaker 3: something could be dangerous. But otherwise they just kind of splat.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, more so than that. And I understand we're not
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Speaker 2: talking about the dangers of the guns. Like paintball guns
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Speaker 2: are not inherently dangerous, but with the cops said, toy guns, waterguns,
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Speaker 2: BB guns all pose real dangers, especially to an untrained eye,
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Speaker 2: because it looks like you may be getting shot. And
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Speaker 2: if the cops show up, I think if a gun
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Speaker 2: has pointed anywhere near them and they pull out their
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Speaker 2: weapon and air conditioning some guy with several holes through
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Speaker 2: his body, you know what, that is a policy shooting
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Speaker 2: that will be justified with the police. Now, all weaymo
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Speaker 2: cars have internal cameras and microphones, and they say it
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Speaker 2: can be used to promote safety and security. In this
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Speaker 2: case that happened, the cameras are also used to ensure
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Speaker 2: the vehicles are clean and to help find lost items.
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Speaker 2: By the way, there is is there a weaymoporn dot
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Speaker 2: com where they've you can just imagine what happens in
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Speaker 2: a car with no driver and you're alone with your
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Speaker 2: sexual other in the car. I'll bet you they can
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Speaker 2: make some money on that one. Yeah, well, yeah, you
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Speaker 2: sort of forget in the midst of an enjoyable time,
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Speaker 2: the moment of passion. Yeah, unless you're married, then there's
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Speaker 2: nothing there. Then you don't have to ever worry about that,
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Speaker 2: all right, So the problems with Waimo, and I want
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Speaker 2: to make a point hear, in the past few months,
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Speaker 2: Weimo has already recalled thousands of cars, They've stopped operations,
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Speaker 2: and a bunch of cities robo taxis have driven onto
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Speaker 2: flooded streets. One in San Antonio was swept away. The
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Speaker 2: company announ suspension on all opera all freeway operations, including
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Speaker 2: LA one San Francisco. Rider led the car led police
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Speaker 2: on a high speed pursuit through active highway construction zones.
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Speaker 2: Cars were rear ended after stopping unexpectedly break for so
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Speaker 2: fine low flying birds. I mean, there's all manner of
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Speaker 2: these cars and incidences that can't all be anticipated, so
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Speaker 2: there are going to be issues. But I do want
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Speaker 2: to make a point of this. Even with all of
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Speaker 2: these so they're probably just a handful of certainly accidents
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Speaker 2: and some close calls. What Waimo says and other car
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Speaker 2: companies their robo taxis say, every time something I like
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Speaker 2: this happens, we go to the drawing board and we
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Speaker 2: go ahead and program for it, and at some point
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Speaker 2: there's going to be nothing left that isn't been programmed
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Speaker 2: for and you go, all right, Well, in that case,
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Speaker 2: we have to test and test and test and tests,
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Speaker 2: and we don't want these robo taxis out there until
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Speaker 2: they're completely safe. Let's go back to the early days
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Speaker 2: of flying. If that was the case, we still wouldn't
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Speaker 2: have airplanes in the sky. Why because the early planes
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Speaker 2: just had all kinds of problems. We wouldn't have cars
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Speaker 2: on the road because the early cars were running into people.
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Speaker 2: In the meantime. For those people that are against robotax i, say,
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Speaker 2: oh no, we need more technology. Let's look at the millions,
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Speaker 2: tens of millions of miles that were driven relative to
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Speaker 2: the number of accidents. One of the executives of Weimo
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Speaker 2: was interviewed after this incident and said that a Weimo
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Speaker 2: taxi is as far as their stats are concerned, and
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Speaker 2: they say they can prove it five times safer than
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Speaker 2: a human being driving in a car under the same circumstances,
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Speaker 2: and I absolutely buy that. Instrumentation is well. First of all,
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Speaker 2: they never get drunk. A Weimo car never gets drunk.
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Speaker 2: It never gets tired, it never gets distracted, it never
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Speaker 2: texts while it's driving. Well it does, but it's programmed
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Speaker 2: to do that, so of course they'd be safer. And
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Speaker 2: now I've actually hadn't driven in one yet because there
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Speaker 2: where I live there aren't very many taxis. We don't
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Speaker 2: need him, Neil, have you driven in a way moo
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Speaker 2: or one of these taxis.
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Speaker 3: Many many times in San Francisco a couple of times,
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Speaker 3: and here in La I use some more than any
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Speaker 3: other service.
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Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't know that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've okay, yes, they they're they're here all over
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Speaker 3: the place.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen them all over the place. I should
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Speaker 2: just jump into one, just to see what it's like. Amy, Weamo,
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Speaker 2: I haven't done it yet. Okay, I see them all
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Speaker 2: over the place in my neighborhood. Okay, will Weimo? Not yet,
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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for Amy. We keep having a date about
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Speaker 2: we're talking about doing it. We're going to do a
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Speaker 2: way Moo date. Yeah, oh yeah, why not. That's a
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Speaker 2: new one. And and Wemo Wemo not yet? Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: haven't either, not yet. Notice we all say not yet.
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Speaker 2: Nobody said no chance cono almost a homo. I'm sorry
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Speaker 2: about that Cono, I came very close to that. Actually, no,
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Speaker 2: I understand that some of your best friends, so cono. No, No,
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Speaker 2: all right, not yet, all right, moving on. One of
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Speaker 2: the things that I have talked about and talk to
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Speaker 2: friends if I had any, and talk to acquaintances and
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Speaker 2: people that listen, is that once Trump is done with
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Speaker 2: his term, his next two terms, you're going to see
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Speaker 2: a different country. You're going to go back to where
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Speaker 2: we were. Well, the problem is we probably aren't. There
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Speaker 2: are some major changes are going to come down geo. Politically,
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Speaker 2: You've got I don't think you have a Europe ever
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Speaker 2: trusting the United States again. And by the way, that's
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Speaker 2: not necessarily bad either, because I agree with the President
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Speaker 2: saying that Europe should be on its own in terms
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Speaker 2: of a defense and not rely on the United States
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Speaker 2: in most cases. The other thing that's going on, and
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Speaker 2: this is a little bit tougher, is the decline of
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Speaker 2: PhD admissions because money is being yanked and you've got
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Speaker 2: major universities the funding has stopped or have been really curtailed,
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Speaker 2: and lawsuits are flying. What is happening as a result
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Speaker 2: is a number of PhD students, not only who are
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Speaker 2: graduating because you've got research grants that are disappearing, but
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Speaker 2: new grants are not being granted, and it affects the
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Speaker 2: number of students. Now. One of the things that makes
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Speaker 2: the US the greatest country in the world, and again
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Speaker 2: we've talked about that a lot, is that education at
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Speaker 2: the highest level is the best in the world. Not
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Speaker 2: necessarily the lowest level high school, elementary school, not even close,
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Speaker 2: but at the top universities, at the PhD level, there's
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Speaker 2: nothing like that American universities. And a lot of it
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Speaker 2: has to do with the research and people coming from
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Speaker 2: all over the world to the US for the higher education.
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Speaker 2: Higher education is paid for, research grants, pay for from
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Speaker 2: the FEDS, pay for a tremendous amount of advances and
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Speaker 2: understanding of what's going on. And the Trump administration is
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Speaker 2: cutting it like crazy. And why well, because of political purposes.
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Speaker 2: That's why we're at risk of losing a whole generation
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Speaker 2: of new talent, according to some of the experts that
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Speaker 2: are at the schools. And Liz Houston, when she is
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Speaker 2: a White House spokesperson and when she was asked about
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Speaker 2: the money that's being stopped, she said, we start with,
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Speaker 2: of course, the normal babble. President Trump is committed to
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Speaker 2: keeping American the world leader in scientific innovation, even while
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Speaker 2: cutting the grants. And she said that means real funding.
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Speaker 2: That means funding real science, not left wing ideology. The
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Speaker 2: problem is real science is also being cut. For years,
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Speaker 2: federal grant dollars were funneled into politicized research with little
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Speaker 2: accountability to taxpayers or the results to show for it.
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Speaker 2: The administration is ending that waste. And where's the rest
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Speaker 2: of the quote? Let me see that I got that.
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Speaker 2: Here we go to a simple standard. Grant should go
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Speaker 2: to the best science, not politics. That's how we maintain
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Speaker 2: American global dominance. Now, how much research money is made
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Speaker 2: to go into sociological research versus scientific research? Not much.
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Speaker 2: You don't do much testing in sociology. You do some,
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Speaker 2: but not like science. And these universities are the way
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Speaker 2: they're being cut across the board with the money that's
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Speaker 2: not being given to them because the Trump administration does
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Speaker 2: not like their ideology, does not like the way, for example,
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Speaker 2: and as far as Jews are concerned, love this does
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Speaker 2: not like the way universities are treating Jewish students or
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Speaker 2: being pro Palestinian, which is against the tenets of the
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Speaker 2: Trump the Trumpet administration and thinking. The point is is
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Speaker 2: that research dollars are really being cut and that has
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Speaker 2: long lasting effects. This just doesn't come back overnight. And
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Speaker 2: so that's the problem that we have. That's one of
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Speaker 2: the issues that I have with the Trump administration. You know,
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Speaker 2: research is not politicized. I mean, it's research. Science is science. Oh,
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Speaker 2: we're only giving money to science projects. Yeah, how about
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Speaker 2: cutting the entire endownment of Harvard, for example, the whole
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Speaker 2: fake We're cutting fifteen percent, We're cutting twenty percent, We're
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Speaker 2: coming back twenty five percent to the point where Congress
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Speaker 2: has instituted those grants. The courts have said the grants
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Speaker 2: have been yanked because of they were arbitrary and capricious,
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Speaker 2: and the administration itself goes back and forth on these grants.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna lose it. Oh, China is jumping in with
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Speaker 2: a passion to replace us as a place of higher education.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it. Medical News Doctor Jim Keeney,
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Speaker 2: chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in
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Speaker 2: Long Beach, Good morning, Jim.
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Speaker 4: The morning Bill.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you're just about to have your birthday. I understand
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Speaker 2: what you.
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Speaker 4: Came to my birthday party? What are you talking about
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Speaker 4: those a couple months ago?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, there you go, I can played. Let's talk
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Speaker 2: about dementia, okay, early on set, dementia. Okay, I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: absolutely convinced I have that. There, Jeff, quit laughing, because
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Speaker 2: I'll forget you worried, I know your Christmas Jim, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we worry about that before. Okay.
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Speaker 4: A couple of topics.
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Speaker 2: A couple of topics, one good topic that actually is
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Speaker 2: great medical news and on the other side, great medical
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Speaker 2: news for me because it's a negative medical news. Let's
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Speaker 2: start with the good stuff. New blood tests that screens
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Speaker 2: for several different types of cancer. Uh. That a couple
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Speaker 2: of things. Science is moving at a rapid pace and
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Speaker 2: dealing with cancer. And the other thing that is not
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Speaker 2: talked about, at least on this show and among people
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Speaker 2: I talked to, is how many different kinds of cancer
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Speaker 2: there are out there, and how medical science is attacking
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Speaker 2: each one separate. And that's the way it has to be. So, Jim,
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Speaker 2: would you comment on that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure, So, I mean, at this point, you're right,
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Speaker 4: that's what happens is we have individual screening tests for
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Speaker 4: individual cancer, so there's a prostate screening test at PSA
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Speaker 4: and exam, you might do an ultrasounder an MRI to
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Speaker 4: look at it. You might do biopsies. Then for lung
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Speaker 4: cancer it's separate. It's a whole different screening process with
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Speaker 4: chest X rays, maybe a CT of the chest and
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Speaker 4: maybe a biopsy as well. Then you have breast cancer
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Speaker 4: a different one, colon cancer a different one. So we
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Speaker 4: have all these screening tests and not everyone has access
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Speaker 4: to those, not everyone can afford them. Some of them
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Speaker 4: it's not available in their area. So we've looked for
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Speaker 4: what they call a liquid biopsy, meaning we can just
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Speaker 4: take your blood and check your blood for the products
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Speaker 4: that these cancers produce, and maybe that could be an easy,
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Speaker 4: inexpensive early warning system. The problem is the blood is
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Speaker 4: literally like a whole ecosystem them with so much stuff
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Speaker 4: in It's so many chemicals in it that there's a
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Speaker 4: lot of noise in the in the sample and that
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Speaker 4: obscures the ability to see maybe a tiny signal from
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Speaker 4: a cancer that's growing well. The researchers at Theater Sinai
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Speaker 4: have identified what they call large oncosomes, and oncosomes are
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Speaker 4: there you know, you have breakdowns in cells throughout your
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Speaker 4: entire body, and as those cells break down, they release
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Speaker 4: the chemicals that are inside the cell, which are relatively small,
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Speaker 4: but they also release the organelles. You know, you have
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Speaker 4: organs inside your cell that do different functions, so we
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Speaker 4: call those organelles, and one of the organelles is a vesicle.
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Speaker 4: And these vesicles are kind of large little blobs that
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Speaker 4: have proteins around the outside of them, so they're large
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Speaker 4: enough to be easily detected. And it turns out that
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Speaker 4: they're pretty standard across invasive cancers. So you can test
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Speaker 4: for this one type of thing and find multiple different
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Speaker 4: invasive cancers. So what you want to know about screening
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Speaker 4: test is number one, it's going to pick it up early,
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Speaker 4: early enough to do something about it. Number two, it's
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Speaker 4: not going to give you a bunch of false positives
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Speaker 4: so that you you don't you know, you're now you're
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Speaker 4: doing unnecessary testing. In addition, and number three, it's got
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Speaker 4: to be you know, easy and effective to actually get done.
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Speaker 4: And this seems to hit all those boxes. But you know,
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Speaker 4: I don't want to make it sound like it's available today.
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Speaker 4: This is research, so we still don't know that, and
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Speaker 4: they're focusing right now on prost date you know again,
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Speaker 4: because you know, man rule the world. So we're going
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Speaker 4: to do prostate first and breast cancer later. It's just
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Speaker 4: the way medicine has worked for a million years. And
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Speaker 4: and so you know we are they're looking right now
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Speaker 4: at it replacing maybe not replacing this testing. And that's
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Speaker 4: the point. It doesn't replace all those other tests, but
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Speaker 4: maybe it narrows down who needs all those other tests.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So is it fair to say that we are
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Speaker 2: getting closer to the magic boys in dealing with cancer?
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Speaker 4: Well, of course that's not a treatment. So for me,
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Speaker 4: in my mind, the magic bullet's a treatment that kills
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Speaker 4: the cancer without killing anything else in your body, right,
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Speaker 4: and that's my definition of the magic bullet. But this
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Speaker 4: would be I mean, our problem is that we know
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Speaker 4: for most cancers that early diagnosis completely changes your world, right,
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Speaker 4: especially for colon cancer is a great example of that.
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Speaker 4: You know, the colon cancer grows almost like a mushroom
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Speaker 4: stock in your intestine, and the head of the mushroom
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Speaker 4: is the cancer if you and it's pre cancers to
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Speaker 4: start with. So if you get a colonoscopy, and they
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Speaker 4: just snip off the stock. You're done. You're absolutely done.
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Speaker 4: There's no further treatment necessary. That Over time, the head
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Speaker 4: of that stock will grow down and once it touches
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Speaker 4: the intestines, and now the cancer is invaded into the intestines,
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Speaker 4: the treatment has completely changed. At minimum, you need that
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Speaker 4: section of intestine cut out and it probably has has
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Speaker 4: metastasized by then, and now you know you're in a
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Speaker 4: world of trouble, right, Okay. You know early detection is
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Speaker 4: what this is going to provide for us, and that's
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Speaker 4: what that's the great thing that's going to help us with.
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Speaker 2: All right, Jim, I have one more question regarding the
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Speaker 2: blood tests. We talk about this new blood test for
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Speaker 2: a couple of cancers, and that is as we've talked
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Speaker 2: over the years, and we've discussed the various ailments, and
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Speaker 2: we've talked about hundreds of them. You say we need
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Speaker 2: a blood test. How many symptoms diseases you can find
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Speaker 2: in a blood test?
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Speaker 4: I have no idea the large number. That's the point, right,
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Speaker 4: And I wish it was as easy as and a
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Speaker 4: lot of people do think it's as easy as you
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Speaker 4: get a test as you're having a heart attack. That's
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Speaker 4: not the case. Even for the heart enzymes that we test,
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Speaker 4: those are indicators that you may be having a heart attack,
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Speaker 4: but there's other things that'll make those go up. So
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Speaker 4: all these tests need to be interpreted. And I think
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Speaker 4: that's the key thing that people miss is the interpretation
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Speaker 4: of the blood test is important.
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Speaker 2: Okay, then let's move over to the West Nile virus.
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Speaker 2: Last time we talked, it wasn't a very big deal,
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Speaker 2: except that looks like now is becoming a very big deal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, this is the worst they've seen it
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Speaker 4: since two thousand and four. As far as the season
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Speaker 4: starting so far thirty eight positive mosquito samples, and over
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Speaker 4: the last five years we averaged about four positive mosquito samples.
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Speaker 4: At this time of the year, we've had forty eight
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Speaker 4: human cases and thirty eight severe neuroinvasive cases, so that's
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Speaker 4: the highest number since two thousand and four. It's been
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Speaker 4: happening locally. There was a patient hospitalized in Long Beach
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Speaker 4: area for the neuroinvasive disease that comes with West Nile
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Speaker 4: virus rarely, but it does come. You know, one percent
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Speaker 4: that you know, considering how why it spread something like
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Speaker 4: West now virus could be that could be a big
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Speaker 4: number if there are a lot of cases. And so
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Speaker 4: remember that we talked about this before West now virus.
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Speaker 4: About one out of five people who have West Nile
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Speaker 4: virus and are infected will show any symptoms at all,
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Speaker 4: So most people won't show symptoms. Out of that those,
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Speaker 4: then you know about one percent who have West nonvirus
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Speaker 4: will get this neural invasive disease and out of those,
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Speaker 4: ten percent will die sore disease.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is there a vaccine? Is there a vaccination
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Speaker 2: for this?
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Speaker 4: There's absolutely no treatment. There's no vaccination. This is prevention.
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Speaker 4: It's all about prevention. So right, the keys here are
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Speaker 4: that you're going to try and reduce places where mosquitoes
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Speaker 4: would breed. So you've got to get rid of all
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Speaker 4: standing water, you know those little water catchers underneath your pots,
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Speaker 4: your your pets water bowl that's outside, you know, any
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Speaker 4: any place, your gutters. You got to clean out your
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Speaker 4: gutters and get rid of the standing water because there's
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Speaker 4: debris in your gutters. All those things have to be
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Speaker 4: taken care of. Then you you should avoid and this
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