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Panthers rookies report to training camp! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

0:01
[UNKNOWN]: Taylor Moton and J.C. Horn put on the non-footbow injury list.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers Rookie's reported to training camp today and we are just a little over two weeks before the Carolina Panthers are playing in the Hall of Fame game.
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[UNKNOWN]: Football's upon us and so is the C3 Panthers podcast.
0:19
[UNKNOWN]: Let's rock.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's roll.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tony Darn, and not to it, but to do it, brother, less rogue.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the suit we've ever fought against.
0:56
[UNKNOWN]: It's Tuesday night, it's the C3 Panthers podcast, the longest run in Panthers podcast where each and every week, we chop up the latest Panthers news and opinions from the fan perspective.
1:05
[UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Dunn.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is my Will Man Cody like how you doing my friend Tony Dunn.
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[UNKNOWN]: As you already know, there's no road rather than be on the Tuesday night than sitting here in my boys, talking, panther, football,
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[UNKNOWN]: We had a big news day today.
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[UNKNOWN]: It feels like we're actually on the precipice of football.
1:25
[UNKNOWN]: There are things to talk about.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are a very short time away from pre-season football.
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[UNKNOWN]: Man, we're getting back into it.
1:35
[UNKNOWN]: This rookie is over-porting.
1:36
[UNKNOWN]: But as always, you know, we would never do this show.
1:41
[UNKNOWN]: Without the best damn panther fans in all of YouTube, you know, I'm in love with them.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's VR, the whole dealer, Michael Widerick, loud packed Luke, Harvey Lundin, Blackhead's comb, and our girl K, B, Kristen, Butler, Tony Dunn, and nothing to her but to do her brother, let's roll.
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[UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 1598.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's two, five, two, two, eight, 1598.
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[UNKNOWN]: You can be a part of the show of tell us, which you think about Taylor Moton, a really serious blood clots in the long, which I think is called a pulmonary embolism is the official term, a dad had this at one point.
2:23
[UNKNOWN]: My dad had Crohn's disease and had at one point in his life, he had a nine-hour surgery like crazy.
2:31
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't even know how something like that almost happens.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's actually fully recovered.
2:35
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he suffered and suffered for a long time.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you know, I've never a strong man, strong man from Nash County, North Carolina, Rocky Mount.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was hard to get tougher than that type of person right there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But he had a blood cut that went through his heart and landed in his lung, which I think a lot of times that's how it happens.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it put him down more than the dang surgery.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like it crippled like it was really hard on him.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they formed in the lungs or formed somewhere else traveled to it, well, you know what, thankful for his life today, thankful for that, and we'll be praying for him in a hope of a recovery there.
3:21
[UNKNOWN]: So you call into the show and you know, tell us what is Taylor, Moton, probably got to miss the beginning of the season.
3:28
[UNKNOWN]: What does that mean for Monroe Freeland?
3:31
[UNKNOWN]: What does it mean for the Carolina Panthers offensive line?
3:33
[UNKNOWN]: What does it mean for our hopes and dreams for Bryce Young to show us?
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[UNKNOWN]: That he's the guy that the Panthers are going to take to a big deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: J.C. Horn told fans to chill out.
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[UNKNOWN]: take a chill bill.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to be just fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not sure what's happening with Jason you want to hurt a cut on the foot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's know.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, these injuries are a big deal.
3:56
[UNKNOWN]: Are you excited about training camp or you tell us where you want to go, they're sure to go.
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4:17
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, oh, CK.
4:19
[UNKNOWN]: How are you, my man?
4:21
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I am doing great, man, in your right, man.
4:24
[UNKNOWN]: Anytime there's a day when there's panthers and news that we can actually talk about, this becomes real.
4:32
[UNKNOWN]: We have fan fest in 10 days.
4:35
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, thanks for the notice, Carolina.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thanks for any notice for any of us that don't lose a child.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was wild.
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[UNKNOWN]: I have tickets for you, Tony, if you want to go.
4:46
[UNKNOWN]: And Cody, did you end up getting some?
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't end up hearing it.
4:53
[UNKNOWN]: But if there is still some available, I could still get them out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, obviously, we're going to make something happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: I bought eight, and I have, we're going to buy them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's a five-pointed piece.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not very fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: Great thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: But did they even let it out, CK?
5:10
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, it did come in the middle of the night.
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[UNKNOWN]: It felt like it just it creeped up on us.
5:16
[UNKNOWN]: And what's it about between last week's show and this week?
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it might have been before last week show we just didn't give a chance to talk about it, but now that it's 10 days away, it's real and you guys got to keep in mind if there's fan fest, that means we're in training camp right a fan fest equals training camp, which means we are almost there fellas and when we get to training camp.
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[UNKNOWN]: everything just gets quicker and quicker and quicker.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're so close to the season starting.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's incredibly exciting.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's obviously disconcerting to hear about the Taylor Moton news.
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[UNKNOWN]: The J.C. horn news is not so disconcerting.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a cut on his foot.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's gonna be fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it's exciting to be able to start talking about real.
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[UNKNOWN]: real panthers news that's going to be tangible and actually have long reaching effects on how this season is going to continue to progress.
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[UNKNOWN]: So excited to be able to get this thing started off and this feels like the first week of the NFL season for us.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cut on the foot.
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[UNKNOWN]: What the heck?
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you step on an A always.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just some stitches.
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[UNKNOWN]: By the way, fan
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, uh, July 10th.
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[UNKNOWN]: So that was 11 days ago.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I felt like it was we haven't known that it was the date, not even the letting the tickets out, but we didn't know the date because a lot of times, you know, for some of us that do not live in Charlotte, you got to make a big arrangement.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a big to do for us to get to town to get hotels to, you know, organize our life for me.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's always difficult.
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[UNKNOWN]: When they do it right here, which is fine.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know they do it there every at this time, but it's the last weekend of the semester You know, I mean, it's like the semester some recession is closed and so it's go time for me To get to Tuesday when the semester is over, but I wanted to say this before we go too great It's just a couple of stitches in the foot now.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm I'm hoping that's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure that's it
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[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is for not all Panther fans are going to remember this, but oh, brochure, Brelin.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just a golf ball to the foot or whatever it was when he was on vacation, our giant.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was a giant free agent signing for the Carolina Panthers.
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[UNKNOWN]: That was when Marty Hurney was still the GM and they had gone out and they were the first suitors for brochure,
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[UNKNOWN]: in the Caribbean and somehow injured his foot and then all these rumors like what happened and somebody said he took a golf ball it ended up getting infected or whatever the panthers ended up they had inked the deal was all there he just had to be medically clear he was not medically cleared and if you guys remember it like really just shook the Carolina Panthers free
8:30
[UNKNOWN]: Good for it, we ended up getting tontary poe.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somehow they pulled that rabbit out of the hat, but that was about the time the Panthers demise started happening, a golf ball to the foot.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers, players, the rookies reported today, Cody, and they're gonna be more important than ever.
8:49
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds like given some of this news.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go, let's jump into the longest run at Panthers.
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[UNKNOWN]: Where we starting?
8:57
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's do it first.
8:58
[UNKNOWN]: That's answer broke K on Twitter.
9:00
[UNKNOWN]: It says that we're playing in four preseason games because of the Hall of Fame game and yes, we are.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I think me and CK mentioned this last week too, that we always sort of fight this battle of how much do we play our starters in the off season and because of injury usually because of unforeseen circumstances, we kind of never end up doing that, but we're going to have literally more opportunities
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[UNKNOWN]: Then 30 other NFL teams with the amount of games that we're going to be having to play.
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[UNKNOWN]: But boys, I mean, look, everyone knows when the big story going into the day is the Panthers have all sensibly lost their right tackle for the start of the season.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is from Darren Gantt on panchers.com, says there's not a team in the NFL that can walk into camp without installing tackles for a portion of the regular season and not feel the impact of those absences.
9:58
[UNKNOWN]: But at least for the Panthers, the news is less bad than it could be based on a systematic plan, put in place this off season.
10:06
[UNKNOWN]: with love tackles that come on corner of the store recovering from a torn hotel that's been suffered in the playoffs.
10:12
[UNKNOWN]: And now Taylor mode and sideline after doctors found a blunt clot in his lung in June.
10:20
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are working with the backup plans when they begin practice on Thursday.
10:26
[UNKNOWN]: Backup plans that at least they have.
10:31
[UNKNOWN]: signing machine Walker in the free agency was a short term move, but drafting Monroe Freeling in the first round was a long term play for the team.
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[UNKNOWN]: and they're in the very fortunate to have now as with the second round difference of tackle LeHunter following the injured torsional warden.
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[UNKNOWN]: It helps to plan ahead.
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[UNKNOWN]: Walker has three years of starting experience for the Panthers out of the tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: A team which happens through have made the playoffs the last three years.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a different type of tackle than he can record.
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[UNKNOWN]: More of
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[UNKNOWN]: walkers on a one-year deal, but just said in June that he already feels comfortable here after getting a lot of work with Bryce Young and the ones during OTAs.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then boys, this is what is really the most exciting aspect that we're going to be talking about when guessing our future offensive line formation.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's Monroe Freeling.
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[UNKNOWN]: First round, number 19 overall at Georgia, most of Freeling's playing experience was on the left.
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[UNKNOWN]: He played 747 tallest naps in this college career, 739 of them on the left with one right tackle and the other seven as an extra blocker tied in.
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[UNKNOWN]: uh at uh as in uh uh with one at right tackle and the other seven as an extra blocker slash tied in.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so he almost started editing games and it's still very early in his progression.
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[UNKNOWN]: but said he had some familiarity with playing on the right side during his college years at least in practice.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said I was a swing tackle pretty much my first two years, so I was getting an experience at both.
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[UNKNOWN]: Freeling said on draft weekend.
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[UNKNOWN]: And myself more year, I was primarily just a win in tackle, like I was getting in every third series and just kind of switching the middle of the series.
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[UNKNOWN]: It didn't matter.
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[UNKNOWN]: So I was getting good experience.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said, I probably have like 300 snaps or something at right tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: In practice.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I mean, still, you're, we got some Georgia pastures too.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, you're like, this is somebody in an interview trying to take one thing they did and share how they have the experience component.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, as you know, uh, experience needed.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, I had one snap at right tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, well, Tony, listen, I know you're a historian.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there is another very prominent former left tackle who started his career at right tackle and that's none other than Jordan Rose.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the first year in Carolina, started at Wright Tackle, then eventually transferred over to that left side.
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[UNKNOWN]: It appears as though we're going down the same road again with Monroe Freely.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then again, we'll talk about Brady Christensen here in a minute, who would be just signed or redact to that in a minute.
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[UNKNOWN]: But boys, how worried are we about Taylor Maldon?
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[UNKNOWN]: losing him for the start of the season and do we now pretty much believe that Monroe Freeling is going to be our right tackle at the start of the season.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think, you know, when Darren Gantt put it as you walk it into training camp and you don't have either your starting decals like that's like a disaster kind of scenario for every team, but then thankfully we prepared for this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a stretch because like we
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
14:24
[UNKNOWN]: So you went, got Richard Walker for that moment.
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[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I strangely think this, I mean, this is like, I hope this is, it's not hot take.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think, but losing Taylor Moton is bigger than losing a Kim Aquana.
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[UNKNOWN]: because you had the opportunity to go and get what some people believe is a rather comparative player maybe not in skill set what they've done in the past but you know good good player but not not necessarily the greatest player in the world but not a bad player at all like you mean you can feel confident having that guy in your squad out there and feel good about having that player on the field
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[UNKNOWN]: Taylor Moton, the Ironman, you know, never miss his game.
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[UNKNOWN]: I thought that he was give us, you know, you saw kind of like a, we've seen a second life.
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[UNKNOWN]: Then, you know, Taylor Moton came out and he said, look, I'm 30, I'm not 40.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I got some miles on the tires still.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you know, you're very happy about the situation offensive line.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think the Taylor Moton
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[UNKNOWN]: more detrimental, but I mean, I guess everybody's saying as it shows you like why you pick an offensive lineman in the top three rounds every other year, and why this number one pick of Monroe Freeland is just increased in value, and so I think that's my answer to your question is like, yeah, I think this is significant.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's back breaking those CK like it may have been.
16:02
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the difference I've felt about the Panthers going into this season compared to previous seasons is you could see on paper the starting group.
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[UNKNOWN]: make it and be in a respectable team, but it was a house of cards when it came to an injury of how you could recover from losing a Derek Brown or losing a Tarshaw Ward and losing a Taylor Moton.
16:31
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like the Parathars have a little bit more depth in momentum to survive those moments than they have in the past.
16:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and before you rocks, you can't, uh, love bomb.
16:45
[UNKNOWN]: From the hope deal, this is love offering for Cody Lack.
16:47
[UNKNOWN]: Love the documentary, bro.
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[UNKNOWN]: Keep up the work along with CK and Tony Dunn.
16:52
[UNKNOWN]: And welcome back, brandy Christians.
16:54
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you, hope deal with CK, go ahead, man.
16:57
[UNKNOWN]: Fantastic segue into what I was about to say.
16:59
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the fact that we brought back Brady Christensen tells me that obviously they made that decision knowing that this was coming, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: They knew this was about 20, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that that gives us a lot of depth.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not entirely sure that this means freelance moving right to the right tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: All right, I think it could.
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[UNKNOWN]: Chris, I think it's a better shot at right tackle right now than Freelien does.
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[UNKNOWN]: And and that's not because I don't think that Freelien can play that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they would like to start his career off in a way that's like everything you've done.
17:38
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to just forget it.
17:39
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to teach you the right tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then eventually, you're going to move over to left tackle.
17:43
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully, that is, I don't think that that's a great thing for a player to start.
17:49
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like he said, I mean, yes, Jordan Gross started that way.
17:52
[UNKNOWN]: But I just, I don't know that I like that idea.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Brady Christensen absolutely makes sense to come back and be in that position.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because he has been the jack of all trades for our offensive line.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think this dude can come out here and play on that right tackle spot and be incredibly effective at it.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so in my hope is, and I think we all kind of have the same hope here, is that the, that the Moton injury is or the the health concerns rather are temporary and an extremely temporary.
18:22
[UNKNOWN]: That's the hope, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't know what that looks like or the recovery time on that.
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[UNKNOWN]: So there's a there's a non zero chance that he's out for the entire season and so in a moment like that maybe you do start to have freely you know split those reps over there.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's a bad idea for him to get the versatility.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just don't like it as an expectation right now.
18:44
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, you stole a lot of the words right from my mouth man to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is, you know, when you signed Brady Christian sin And let's be real like I feel like we knew this is going to happen anyway with a Brady Christian sin recovery from his injury You know this is from a cat grave dot com when the monster bubble quarterback will agree or retired
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[UNKNOWN]: one week before training camp the Panthers had an open spot on their roster in general manager Dan Morgan knew precisely how to fill it.
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[UNKNOWN]: The team recently confirmed the versatile offensive lineman Brady Christianson reset him with the club on a one year deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: This came just a few short days after he was all given an all clear to resume football activities and it just made too much sense for the Panthers.
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[UNKNOWN]: Chris, the Center for Reportedly, considering multiple offers, but this has always been his home.
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[UNKNOWN]: He loves living in Charlotte.
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[UNKNOWN]: His family is settled with her.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he loves to franchise.
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[UNKNOWN]: While getting a fresh start somewhere, would have been tempting.
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[UNKNOWN]: The poll of being part of the Panthers exciting project.
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[UNKNOWN]: eventually won out.
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[UNKNOWN]: And listen, you know, to your points, okay, Brady Christianson has played all five positions on the offensive line.
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[UNKNOWN]: He isn't going into his sixth year in D&FL.
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[UNKNOWN]: And one of the things that I think the Panthers were really sort of
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[UNKNOWN]: banking on almost is that when you signed Rashid Walker to play the tackle this season, it didn't put them in a position to have the forced Monroe feeling onto the field so early.
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[UNKNOWN]: It gave them a little leeway to be sent in to the actual speed of the NFL game.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not so sure that you're not a computer-correcting your assumption that maybe the veteran experience of Brady Christian's direction is the direction that they want to go away.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be very interesting to see how they split up the first team reps at right tackle between the Freeling and Brady Christiansen.
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[UNKNOWN]: But either way, I'm not disappointed in either of these things.
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[UNKNOWN]: Christian sent everyone those, I've been one of the biggest fans of and supporters of his ever since we drafted buddy in 2020 and when you spend or 19th overall pick on an offensive tackle, I'm sorry, I don't care who you signed in the offices and they intend to play him at some point.
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[UNKNOWN]: So to me, this offensive line and how it configures.
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[UNKNOWN]: is going to be one of the more interesting things to watch on the Panthers roster going into this season.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, well, a couple of things I wanted to mention about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I sent a tweet to you when we were getting ready for the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it was Ricky Rains, and I'll just read it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, he said, somebody said, they were asking about, you know, is this what you want to do?
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to go with Monroe Freeling at the right when he has had this experience
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[UNKNOWN]: Ricky Ryan said, Freeland comes in and we'll have, we'll have to hone in on the details, footwork, hand placement, timing, depth, et cetera.
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[UNKNOWN]: But that would be asked of him regardless of where they lined him up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a sharper focus, one side initially, along with potentially more game reps now, benefits a guy with loads of skills and tools, but light on experience.
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[UNKNOWN]: So what I think is and what I gather from that is that yeah, I mean, is that what he has done is played left tackle, but he's still a rookie, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: And it's not like he's played exclusively a left tackle for 15 years.
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[UNKNOWN]: And now he's got to basically rewrite his whole body memory, you know, which muscle memory is such a big deal.
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[UNKNOWN]: We like,
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[UNKNOWN]: at my employer work at like we have two microwaves and I always use like there's one on the one side of the kitchen and there's one on the other side of the kitchen and for the last 17 years I've used this one microwave well it finally capitized like a couple of months ago
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[UNKNOWN]: And today I walked in there and I walked to where the old microwave was like I mean it was like it was a muscle memory moment, you know, um, so I mean like that kick step, you know, become so ingrained over time, but I think this is, um,
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[UNKNOWN]: He did say this.
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[UNKNOWN]: He said he accredited at Big Duke 50 who quoted years ago that playing the other, if you're a left tackle playing a right tackle play left tackle, it's like wiping with the opposite hand.
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[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, I'm here with this, but here.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm always pushing back on it too, telling you.
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[UNKNOWN]: OK, but here, this is what I want to say, though, because Ricky is saying, it's like, look, he's going to have to come in and play it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, he can do this.
23:54
[UNKNOWN]: And if there is a time in his career, this is the moment.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not asking him on a one week like, hey, we're starting on Sunday.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Tuesday.
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[UNKNOWN]: We need you to learn to play right tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a viable option to start for us at Wright Tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: My last point that I want to make about this is if and this is little to CK is if the concern is that he's built and is experiences for the left tackle.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you want to protect that or embrace it and all of this poor Brady Christians in a third round pick has just been asked at every moment's notice to play whatever position nobody here's about that they're like hey we need to know dinner today to now he's a pickup trash in a parking lot yeah we need to do this is so my thing is is I can see where you guys are going with the break Christians in
24:55
[UNKNOWN]: But I could also see the Panthers just saying, you know what, let's really give him enough reps and camp on Rho Freeland.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a top pick, break Christians and coming off an injury.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe Brady Christians will be starter on week one, maybe.
25:12
[UNKNOWN]: But I could see the Panthers know in that this is a long-term thing with Taylor Moton.
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[UNKNOWN]: And not long-term is like career term, but this could be October.
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[UNKNOWN]: Before he comes back, it could be no good.
25:25
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like we can gather some more data.
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[UNKNOWN]: So hey, let's rock out there and get our best players on the field and get him time.
25:33
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not scared of that.
25:34
[UNKNOWN]: The Jordan Gross moment, and hell.
25:37
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty christian to do his whole career.
25:39
[UNKNOWN]: And nobody even liked him.
25:41
[UNKNOWN]: You like Monroe Freelard.
25:43
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
25:44
[UNKNOWN]: No, you did, but like the,
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[UNKNOWN]: They're one of the, the, the actual people that drafted him never had any faith in them.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maveral thought that he had those two axons.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why they never gave him left tackle as a full-time position.
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[UNKNOWN]: But think even two, he played well at guard at times.
26:05
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
26:05
[UNKNOWN]: And then they drafted that kid from NC State who had,
26:12
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 17 false starts, whatever.
26:16
[UNKNOWN]: Holds the candles of all.
26:18
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it was always somebody else was better than Brady Christians and even when he played well.
26:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all he has ever done is step up into the position where he's needed most and never makes a stand out of it.
26:33
[UNKNOWN]: No questions asked and he goes in and he plays well.
26:37
[UNKNOWN]: He might never play on an all pro level.
26:40
[UNKNOWN]: But he is damn serviceable at just about in your position that you want to put him in and see Okay, I don't know if you remember like a couple of weeks ago Tony has asked me like how we feel about the offensive line going into this year versus last year and I said that this year I feel like the O line is better, but I like the depth better from last year And we had Corbyt Christians in amcade made is
27:04
[UNKNOWN]: adding Christians back to this just makes you feel better all the way around knowing that if you have a big time injury on this offensive line you have a god that you know can play every position because he's done it before.
27:20
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that gives me a lot more comfort going into this year, knowing we have it he and Moten on the side right now, not sure when they're actually going to be able to play his nap for us.
27:31
[UNKNOWN]: This was an absolute necessary addition to the Panthers roster.
27:36
[UNKNOWN]: like having made her pretty Christians to add it like it's not even a question about it in my mind like they had no other choice than to have a guy like him on the squad because when we look at this offensive line we lost cave maze we have again Corbett that is he's gone now right there was he gone last year.
27:56
[UNKNOWN]: Corbett.
27:57
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was here last year.
28:00
[UNKNOWN]: So this would be his first offer to share with our Lord.
28:03
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's gone now.
28:04
[UNKNOWN]: So you're losing that depth, even though he may not have been like a, you know, a starting caliber offensive line and the depth was valuable there.
28:12
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
28:12
[UNKNOWN]: Then you have a key.
28:13
[UNKNOWN]: You have the Moton issue.
28:15
[UNKNOWN]: You have a rookie, you know, offensive tackle that you just drafted.
28:19
[UNKNOWN]: And a guy that you have is a short term answer at the left tackle position that that's you signed in free agency on do it to a one-year deal.
28:27
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
28:27
[UNKNOWN]: We have an offensive line issue and had Brady Christianson not been signed.
28:35
[UNKNOWN]: I think we all would be
28:39
[UNKNOWN]: I think we feel a significantly amount, a significant amount better than if we had not made that signing.
28:47
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe we not signed him back.
28:49
[UNKNOWN]: And I also just want to take a moment to say just outside of football, you know, prayer is up for Taylor mode and that's, you know, I was telling you a little too earlier, that's scary stuff and having blunt clot in your lungs, you know, he's probably going to have to be on blood thinners for this.
29:05
[UNKNOWN]: This is in the amount of time after.
29:07
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the treatment right now is they are just a job person confirmed it on this athletic article is that he is blood thinners in treatment.
29:16
[UNKNOWN]: But the thing for blood clots that it's sometimes like the happen after a surgery, right, is you've had something some traumatic experience your body and it's about mobility.
29:31
[UNKNOWN]: That's why they put the compression socks on you.
29:33
[UNKNOWN]: They're trying to get you to move around and things that's why they want you on for a flight for a long time.
29:39
[UNKNOWN]: What to watch for, and I'm not saying the way is that my dad ended up having tube, like clotting, became an issue for him.
29:50
[UNKNOWN]: or than just this one devastating one.
29:53
[UNKNOWN]: So he remained on blood thinners.
29:56
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe Stephanie might still might be as just like a complete preventative thing.
30:02
[UNKNOWN]: So really, that's what I think the panthers when they say he's not going to be back.
30:07
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to start the season.
30:09
[UNKNOWN]: They hope he's going to be around mid-season.
30:11
[UNKNOWN]: They got to really see how he responds to the blood thinners, and if clotting is somehow some part of his life going forward, is this a temporary blood thinner thing, and we're just got to get this one solved, or are you prone to these now, maybe genetically, or something?
30:31
[UNKNOWN]: that was going on.
30:32
[UNKNOWN]: So you're right, it's not a, it's, it's serious.
30:36
[UNKNOWN]: It's so serious that you, because you a lot of people like, well, diaphragm, it's stuck in your heart.
30:40
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
30:41
[UNKNOWN]: Or it does something like this.
30:43
[UNKNOWN]: And so one is a man, we're going to glad Taylor Motons alive today.
30:48
[UNKNOWN]: Or, I mean, this happened back in June.
30:50
[UNKNOWN]: But also, like, is there trying to figure out, is this a kind of one
30:59
[UNKNOWN]: as a human and in his health going forward.
31:03
[UNKNOWN]: So but to y'all's point, I think this is like is the fact that we don't feel wrecked.
31:11
[UNKNOWN]: You know, uh, right now.
31:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
31:13
[UNKNOWN]: They don't feel like our season is tutoring on the edge.
31:17
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, because, and it shows you just how, I don't think they made it.
31:21
[UNKNOWN]: It just was like this pick for Freeland was so important regardless of injury.
31:28
[UNKNOWN]: Even if these guys would have been fully healthy, as this really does position you in a sense to where your offensive lines are not destroyed on a single injury.
31:37
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just, it's unfortunate that we had to test
31:41
[UNKNOWN]: Right out the gate.
31:43
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
31:46
[UNKNOWN]: I, between Monroe Freely and Brady Christianson, I really do think that, you know, we have a good line that is going to be able to step up in a pinch.
31:58
[UNKNOWN]: I'm excited to see how this season plays out.
32:01
[UNKNOWN]: I really surprised that Brady Christianson stars at Wright Tackle, and I like how you guys are forecasting that he is an answer.
32:10
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be something fun to watch and see what really happens here.
32:14
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know if necessary that he is the answer, but I'm saying it wouldn't surprise me if he was due to the fact that, you know, we are talking about a six year veteran that has played well every position that he has played the right tackle he has, I know you said he played all five spots.
32:37
[UNKNOWN]: But the vast majority of his time has been at the goal.
32:41
[UNKNOWN]: Or it's going to be a center where he has traditionally played.
32:45
[UNKNOWN]: But how about this?
32:48
[UNKNOWN]: Let's stay on the offensive line kick that we're on right now.
32:52
[UNKNOWN]: Perp, PFF, the most underappreciated all season signings.
32:56
[UNKNOWN]: One of those is Luke Fordner, the projected starting center for the Carolina Panthers.
33:06
[UNKNOWN]: you know, him and Bryce have gotten more work in, they've gotten some reps in OTAs, you know, this is another guy that we were pretty much, let's be real.
33:16
[UNKNOWN]: After you lose, Kade made it in all of season to the Detroit Lions, they're banking on Luke Fortner building the guy that could literally step in day one to be your starter.
33:28
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I think what a lot of the fans
33:35
[UNKNOWN]: who didn't hit literally one holding pillities entire career, playing at Kansas, playing at center.
33:44
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people are wondering if Sam Hector's gonna compete for that center position.
33:49
[UNKNOWN]: But as of right now, Luke Fortner is paying in to be the starter for the Panthers.
33:56
[UNKNOWN]: Peter Fep thinks he was one of the best, most underrated signings of any team.
34:04
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he was dark cheap.
34:06
[UNKNOWN]: He's experienced that and over the last couple of years, he's been playing some of his better football, you know, I mean, you almost kind of think of a comparative to a, and look, this, I'm going to say to Austin Court, but these guys, Brady, Brady Christian, that kind of,
34:25
[UNKNOWN]: You know, maybe not right out the gate or great players, but can become good players with time and opportunity.
34:31
[UNKNOWN]: And when he went to the Saints, I mean, he played respectively, respectively, respectively.
34:38
[UNKNOWN]: Here's something to ask you as this.
34:39
[UNKNOWN]: I just saw this tweet from Edgar Selamongo Jr. at Panther's Analyst, Panther's Wire, I believe.
34:46
[UNKNOWN]: He said crazy
34:54
[UNKNOWN]: not that it's needed to inform the public, but to surprise to hear it was under wraps for so long.
35:03
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, my first instinct was keeping it close to the vest helps you in negotiations with Brady Christianson or other players is that when you, you know, supply and demand need,
35:20
[UNKNOWN]: and want desire for things and like if the Panthers are seeing as a position needing this more than not that gives these agents in upper hand.
35:33
[UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers may be kept at close to the
35:44
[UNKNOWN]: Just theory out there.
35:45
[UNKNOWN]: All right, listen.
35:46
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I mean, I was unimpressive to see gay as he just shrugged the shoulders like, well, okay.
35:55
[UNKNOWN]: My microphone was, uh, what's meaning?
35:57
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't care.
35:58
[UNKNOWN]: C. K's reaction is a put what?
35:59
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
36:02
[UNKNOWN]: It's fair.
36:02
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
36:04
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know like.
36:07
[UNKNOWN]: to me and again, like I had to keep bringing back to Brady Christians in too, but between Christians in your played center and your Sam Hect, highly talented and coming out of college.
36:21
[UNKNOWN]: To me, you know, this is what you have as serviceable offensive line.
36:26
[UNKNOWN]: that can step up in the pension, you know, play when you need to, and that's what we did all last year.
36:32
[UNKNOWN]: How many times were we injured last year, a bunch of different times, and we just made your work because what we had.
36:39
[UNKNOWN]: So, well, was last year the year, I think last year was the year that we had, and here's the thing that I hate about these stats is because it feels like every year for the Panthers we have a stat like this is like,
36:53
[UNKNOWN]: most combinations of offensive rhyme and played in the league.
36:58
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that last year was one of those years where it was complete revolving door of like all you had was Ikki to the beginning
37:17
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Robert home was heard.
37:18
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the laugh is amazing.
37:20
[UNKNOWN]: Damien Williams.
37:21
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Damien Lewis.
37:22
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was just like, and I guess, Motin, I guess you were just revolving on who your center and right tackle were.
37:31
[UNKNOWN]: But, all right, what's next?
37:34
[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll take some calls.
37:36
[UNKNOWN]: We got some of a few tonight.
37:38
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so, you know, it wasn't just Taylor Moton on the NPI list.
37:46
[UNKNOWN]: Not in NFI, non-football injury.
37:49
[UNKNOWN]: But JC Horn, also on that list.
37:52
[UNKNOWN]: So we mentioned this a little bit earlier.
37:55
[UNKNOWN]: Him getting stitches out of his foot.
37:59
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he went on to a rinse and relax, take a chill pill, be back before you know it.
38:07
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me, I know you've had some trepidation with this, but me, bro, I really just, I think this is a big nothing burger.
38:14
[UNKNOWN]: I think that, you know, I don't know where he was doing to get stitches in his foot.
38:19
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any trepidations with it.
38:22
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, but like what happened?
38:24
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really need to know, but stitches in the foot is like out there fish and step on oysters.
38:31
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, I just don't like, this is the time of the year, where when you open, today was not, like CK said it was like, oh, football is back, but you know what?
38:42
[UNKNOWN]: CK, when I open up social media and I look at all of this, this is the time of the season.
38:50
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to see players getting arrested, and I don't want to see him getting hurt.
38:54
[UNKNOWN]: And today, two very important players coming up hurt.
38:58
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
38:59
[UNKNOWN]: What he kicker like, I mean, he could've stopped his toe.
39:01
[UNKNOWN]: He could've kicked a chair.
39:06
[UNKNOWN]: All right, my phone's been like, oh, that was your phone.
39:09
[UNKNOWN]: That was my phone calling, uh, somebody calling me and it's hooked up to the soundboard.
39:14
[UNKNOWN]: All right, um, no, this is like so, this is probably, I mean, obviously he said chill is nothing got some stitches, but hey, um, get well, I don't, I don't think there's, I don't have trepidation about this one.
39:28
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like, gosh, man, I don't want here by no
39:32
[UNKNOWN]: No, I hear that, but again, if he's not going to trip, I'm not going to trip.
39:37
[UNKNOWN]: Shout out to Jay Rock, stick you for the $2.33 bomb says, Outwarded Ramen and now I'll want to see three buffet, baby.
39:44
[UNKNOWN]: Come here to yourself, but a ramen sounds so good right now.
39:48
[UNKNOWN]: There's this place by me called Silver Lake Ramen.
39:51
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I get that blade.
39:53
[UNKNOWN]: He's extra spicy, no spinach.
39:55
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
39:56
[UNKNOWN]: That was spinach.
39:57
[UNKNOWN]: No spinach, man.
39:58
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not that shit anymore.
40:03
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, no, no, I didn't ever think about that.
40:05
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want that.
40:07
[UNKNOWN]: That that Taco Bell.
40:08
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, come back, link the Taco Bell.
40:10
[UNKNOWN]: It was it.
40:11
[UNKNOWN]: There's like, oh, anyway.
40:13
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
40:13
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, there's supplier or whatever the doing buying from.
40:17
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's crazy.
40:18
[UNKNOWN]: But, um, yeah, turn your mind.
40:21
[UNKNOWN]: Take some calls.
40:21
[UNKNOWN]: Here's some these great C3 faithful.
40:24
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
40:26
[UNKNOWN]: The number 2, 5, 2, 2, 2, 2, 8, 50, 98.
40:29
[UNKNOWN]: It can be part of the C3 Panthers by a guest.
40:32
[UNKNOWN]: Let's know how big a deal is the Taylor-Mote and Andrew.
40:37
[UNKNOWN]: How will the Carolina Panthers deal with it?
40:42
[UNKNOWN]: And who's going to be starting as the right tackle going into this season, Cody?
40:52
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you thought it's on CAC?
40:54
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, I didn't bring a sense of these calls.
40:57
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you thought's on cat calling?
40:59
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty sh**t. You shouldn't do that to somebody.
41:00
[UNKNOWN]: And how do that make you feel?
41:01
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, very uncomfortable.
41:03
[UNKNOWN]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
41:06
[UNKNOWN]: It feels good, like, please, and of course, and of course, that gets it.
41:25
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
41:26
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
41:27
[UNKNOWN]: This is on me.
41:30
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
41:31
[UNKNOWN]: Y'all.
41:31
[UNKNOWN]: Keep talk, talk for a second.
41:34
[UNKNOWN]: I'm here.
41:35
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking.
41:36
[UNKNOWN]: We are talking now.
41:37
[UNKNOWN]: Make fun of me for never getting this right.
41:39
[UNKNOWN]: Tony is a great host of this show.
41:42
[UNKNOWN]: C. K. Your heads are commuting for.
41:44
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I can see my reflection right in.
41:46
[UNKNOWN]: You absolutely
41:53
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I'm, are you doing something new?
41:55
[UNKNOWN]: Are you actually lacking it?
41:56
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I got a special kind of, uh, oil that can be extra sold me.
42:01
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's very good.
42:01
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, thank you.
42:02
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
42:03
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I don't think all of them are quite a while.
42:07
[UNKNOWN]: But, uh, today I'm wanting to call in and, uh, a panel was out.
42:11
[UNKNOWN]: Get nice premium.
42:13
[UNKNOWN]: I missed you reveal a Cody being in the documentary.
42:18
[UNKNOWN]: Big baller, bro.
42:23
[UNKNOWN]: I'm very proud of you, bro.
42:24
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, your brother.
42:25
[UNKNOWN]: I was given, I thought I was talking to the dictation.
42:30
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm very proud of you, bro.
42:32
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you, man.
42:35
[UNKNOWN]: You represent the disabled community quite well.
42:41
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, there is a chance the Panthers can win like 10 games and not get into the playoffs
42:53
[UNKNOWN]: fact that the NSC South was so freaking bad last year that it's just has to be better like every team has to be better.
43:05
[UNKNOWN]: And if that happens and we win more games and we look better but
43:23
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, they put us with playing a division team twice in three weeks, and some crazy shirt like that happened.
43:33
[UNKNOWN]: You know, metal asses and we were really insane.
43:37
[UNKNOWN]: So, some crazy stuff can happen and we won't make the playoffs.
43:40
[UNKNOWN]: But my call is about, how would you feel if that happened?
43:46
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't make the playoffs, but we won more games and we looked better.
43:50
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, guys.
43:55
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, wow, it's still a bit of sweet.
43:59
[UNKNOWN]: If we don't make the playoffs, but look better, I don't know.
44:04
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, I'm so done with the, with the moral victories, man.
44:11
[UNKNOWN]: I want real victories.
44:12
[UNKNOWN]: I want to earn the NFC South.
44:14
[UNKNOWN]: I want to win the thing.
44:16
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Tony, I got into a lot of shit last year when I was like man, if it comes to the Falcons pushing us into the playoffs, I'm like, I'm kind of good on that.
44:30
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we made it and we played the Rams and it was a good performance, but it's like, well, I don't want to be gift-wrapped anything.
44:39
[UNKNOWN]: I want this year to be the year that the Panthers go out and thoroughly dominate the NFC South on the way to the playoffs.
44:48
[UNKNOWN]: I need that in my life.
44:51
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that he makes a good point is this is I think we need to be prepared for that is that the Panthers could be better look better when more games and still be fighting to make the playoffs and I think that you need to expect that as I don't necessarily foresee it like because of the Falcons situation at quarterback.
45:20
[UNKNOWN]: But we think, and I'm not overly in awe of Taylor's shock, you know, I mean, I think he had a really good rookie season.
45:31
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't think that just having that season means he's made it.
45:36
[UNKNOWN]: And he's destined to be a problem for the Carolina Panthers for years to come.
45:41
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's still got a lot to prove.
45:44
[UNKNOWN]: I think the bucks, you all know, I don't know what we're going to get.
45:48
[UNKNOWN]: We just know that Baker may feel the holds of grudge.
45:52
[UNKNOWN]: But in this game, you have to be getting better and you also have to know that the other teams are getting better or trying to get better.
46:01
[UNKNOWN]: So just getting a little bit better and winning another game doesn't mean we're playing off-bound.
46:07
[UNKNOWN]: Like the panthers need
46:13
[UNKNOWN]: kind of dominate in a sense, and not dominate as in the best F and team in the league, but that they can win on any given Sunday.
46:22
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing will be given to the Panthers winning 10 games does not give you anything.
46:27
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are going to have to do it and it could last year they were going to back in.
46:33
[UNKNOWN]: So I just think that you're right, it's like put up or shut up is that this
46:39
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I don't, you cannot rest on the idea that you got a little bit better in your inner shitty division.
46:45
[UNKNOWN]: You got to go out there and be one of the best teams in the NFL, because guess what, after you play your division, you got to go in the play off some play good teams.
46:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the entire division reloaded and I've told you before told me even after we went to division last year right now where I believe fourth and odds to win the NFC South.
47:06
[UNKNOWN]: So most of the broader NFL media still doesn't think the Panthers are shit that we didn't shit, you know.
47:13
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, this is it here.
47:15
[UNKNOWN]: What do I say at the start of every season?
47:23
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's go to the next goal.
47:27
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, guys, love the podcast.
47:29
[UNKNOWN]: I can grab from the recent documentary.
47:31
[UNKNOWN]: It was awesome.
47:32
[UNKNOWN]: My name is Brad Bells and Clover South Carolina.
47:36
[UNKNOWN]: Brad, what's up, brother?
47:37
[UNKNOWN]: I've got all season, conversation, question.
47:40
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to pitch toward you guys.
47:42
[UNKNOWN]: If someone who was at the NSC championship game following the 2015 season, and I wouldn't trade that memory for anything,
47:52
[UNKNOWN]: Despite how much I've paid for nosebleeds, I just wanted to get your opinion on what you thought the best home atmosphere was for a Panthers playoff game.
48:02
[UNKNOWN]: I've been having some all-time summer as a teacher and as I work out going back and watching some of these games.
48:09
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's hard to beat the game against Dallas following the 96 season, you know, where they came out, I know we're almost made it to Super Bowl, Wall Street Green Bay, and the NFC Championship game, go watch that game on YouTube.
48:25
[UNKNOWN]: That crowd is a electric.
48:27
[UNKNOWN]: I would argue even more so than the NFC Championship game.
48:31
[UNKNOWN]: that I attended, you know, with cams in VP year.
48:34
[UNKNOWN]: Got to think so much your true Panthers fans.
48:37
[UNKNOWN]: You got to dedicate a listener here and keep pounding.
48:42
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
48:42
[UNKNOWN]: Good pounding, Brad.
48:43
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for your call.
48:45
[UNKNOWN]: You know, why'd to go back and watch that?
48:48
[UNKNOWN]: Because that was before I was even involved in following the NFL, right?
48:52
[UNKNOWN]: Like I got into the NFL when Julius Pepper was drafted home game atmospheres.
49:01
[UNKNOWN]: But to answer that is that I don't like I trust the caller and saying that that was an electric game.
49:09
[UNKNOWN]: And exciting, you know, young team, new team.
49:12
[UNKNOWN]: But I also was at that NFC championship game.
49:16
[UNKNOWN]: And I want to know what you pay for the news, please.
49:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think we pay, I think I paid 250 to get.
49:23
[UNKNOWN]: to into the upper deck.
49:26
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, they were high up.
49:28
[UNKNOWN]: They were not the worst ticket I've ever had.
49:31
[UNKNOWN]: And the first Panthers game, this is a funny story.
49:35
[UNKNOWN]: The first Panthers game I ever attended.
49:38
[UNKNOWN]: I sat on the very top room.
49:41
[UNKNOWN]: There was, there is nobody behind me.
49:44
[UNKNOWN]: I get what you felt if you stood up that you were going to fall into the stadium.
49:49
[UNKNOWN]: It was so high up.
49:52
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, why are we sitting up here?
49:53
[UNKNOWN]: There's all those empty seats we could have said in.
49:55
[UNKNOWN]: And that's when I developed my strategy for most games is that once, if you're sitting in the upper deck, I think it's fair.
50:02
[UNKNOWN]: This is what I do.
50:07
[UNKNOWN]: And then when the people that own that seat get there, I just say, oh, man, I was just keeping it warm for you.
50:12
[UNKNOWN]: And then I moved back a couple of rows and then do it again and do it again until I have to get to my seat.
50:18
[UNKNOWN]: But that NFC championship game $250 a ticket I believe.
50:23
[UNKNOWN]: Um, was at that it was the greatest sports experience I've ever had, I mean, there's only one other one that puts is ranked up there and that's when ECU came back in the second half and beat.
50:40
[UNKNOWN]: Miami, which was the number two right team, and we were in Raleigh at, has this Carter Finn stadium, the NC state stadium, because we have Floyd Greenville have been flooded because of this, like it was a David like the Century Flood, we played.
50:57
[UNKNOWN]: It was such a great like it would be those two games that are my greatest sports of his fair events of all time will ask you guys in the chat with the most electric Panthers home crowd experience and I think he asked that in some ways, because the Panther fans so showed up in that playoff game against the ramps.
51:21
[UNKNOWN]: That was incredible.
51:23
[UNKNOWN]: Like you could feel it.
51:24
[UNKNOWN]: You could see it was just different than what we have had for seven years.
51:28
[UNKNOWN]: I think a really underrated one was in 2014.
51:31
[UNKNOWN]: We were snuck into the NFC South Championship and we played the Cardinals at home.
51:37
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, after we beat the Cardinals, I was so convinced that we were going to go up to Seattle and just beat their ass.
51:46
[UNKNOWN]: Even though
51:48
[UNKNOWN]: I just, you know, that win coming off of, you know, being the Cardinals at home.
51:54
[UNKNOWN]: To me, that, you know, that environment was really crazy.
51:59
[UNKNOWN]: I think that, you know, it was sort of similar to this past season.
52:02
[UNKNOWN]: You know, a lot of people nationwide didn't believe that we belonged in the playoffs, but we went out there and we made a statement and we warned we beat the Cardinals.
52:12
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think they reported ourselves well.
52:15
[UNKNOWN]: I do think that's a good honorable mention to saying the least.
52:21
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm trying to think of any other games that were great.
52:26
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I can tell you one, not great.
52:30
[UNKNOWN]: It actually might be a, it's probably not a good answer.
52:40
[UNKNOWN]: 13 or 14.
52:43
[UNKNOWN]: What 13 every one had done.
52:45
[UNKNOWN]: No, now this wasn't a playoff game.
52:47
[UNKNOWN]: It was just home game.
52:49
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, home game.
52:50
[UNKNOWN]: Home games.
52:51
[UNKNOWN]: And it actually wouldn't have been, it's the rain game.
52:55
[UNKNOWN]: Gosh, what was it?
52:57
[UNKNOWN]: It was 15 against the colds?
52:58
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, this was, it was either 2013 or 2014.
53:03
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I can't say.
53:04
[UNKNOWN]: We're playing the Saints.
53:06
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I blew it up.
53:07
[UNKNOWN]: The dude can't clearly broke the all-time.
53:09
[UNKNOWN]: Most of that goes right now.
53:11
[UNKNOWN]: And it was just put, and now this was, probably, obviously it wasn't at the stadium.
53:18
[UNKNOWN]: But it felt like our dreams were being dashed in a moment because the Panthers were just in a spot.
53:27
[UNKNOWN]: And they just couldn't win this game.
53:30
[UNKNOWN]: And it was just poor.
53:31
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember being at my friend's house.
53:33
[UNKNOWN]: I was in Charlotte.
53:35
[UNKNOWN]: And there's this iconic picture of a Panthers fan standing under in the overhang.
53:42
[UNKNOWN]: Is above them.
53:44
[UNKNOWN]: And the water is just
53:46
[UNKNOWN]: and it was like they were fused to move to like just show the world what they endured and they were actually just sitting on purpose underneath this floodgate of water.
53:58
[UNKNOWN]: But Cam Newton, Ron Rivera punted the ball.
54:04
[UNKNOWN]: It was fourth and twenty I think or fourth and and there was under two minutes.
54:12
[UNKNOWN]: And we were down by I think a touchdown or maybe down by three and any pun in the ball and the Panthers went three and out.
54:21
[UNKNOWN]: So I guess this is a terrible answer to your question, but I just remember the room I was with the people we were watching.
54:27
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's fucking pissed.
54:28
[UNKNOWN]: He ain't go for it.
54:29
[UNKNOWN]: Cam was pissed.
54:30
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't go for it.
54:32
[UNKNOWN]: The defense shuts them down and cam throws this last second touchdown.
54:37
[UNKNOWN]: So nobody player at the time, that was great.
54:41
[UNKNOWN]: There was a playoff in, so anyway, I'm just getting off on the tangers.
54:45
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next call.
54:46
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for that.
54:47
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a skip ahead a couple of so we could get to something that is, let's go to Luke from Forest City.
54:55
[UNKNOWN]: What's up, Y'all?
54:56
[UNKNOWN]: It's Lucas from Forest City.
54:58
[UNKNOWN]: What up, Luke?
54:59
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to give you my take on Taylor Moton.
55:01
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to give him my love and support.
55:07
[UNKNOWN]: And he's an offensive line.
55:08
[UNKNOWN]: That's my favorite position.
55:10
[UNKNOWN]: I played O-1 in a high school.
55:11
[UNKNOWN]: I remember my offensive line coach always telling us, boys, the only time you'll ever hear your name over the intercom is when something bad's happening.
55:20
[UNKNOWN]: And unfortunately something's bad happening in the Taylor Moton.
55:23
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why we're hearing about it.
55:25
[UNKNOWN]: So I just want to give him my support.
55:27
[UNKNOWN]: It seems him balling out for us forever.
55:30
[UNKNOWN]: And he's a good offensive line.
55:31
[UNKNOWN]: And hopefully we'll see him play for us again.
55:35
[UNKNOWN]: One more thing about the other one, thank God.
55:37
[UNKNOWN]: Our general manager, Chef Boreard, and drafted an O-I'm in for us.
55:44
[UNKNOWN]: Old Monroe Freeland from Georgia.
55:46
[UNKNOWN]: And now we have someone to back up, Old Taylor Moton for us.
55:53
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God we have a good general manager.
55:55
[UNKNOWN]: Keep down and go Panthers.
55:56
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if there's a true or stay in the world.
55:58
[UNKNOWN]: Then if you hear your name over the intercom's, the bad shit's about to happen, and I could give you guys a partial story about that from my high school years where you don't want to hear your name over the intercom.
56:11
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go back to the calls.
56:12
[UNKNOWN]: The number 252 228 50 98.
56:15
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, as well.
56:16
[UNKNOWN]: There's my people.
56:18
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who these these.
56:20
[UNKNOWN]: He's a great Christian son, uh, was it a one-year deal?
56:28
[UNKNOWN]: Hell yeah, that dude was a fucking iron man.
56:30
[UNKNOWN]: That dude could play any position on a fist of one.
56:33
[UNKNOWN]: So he can't.
56:34
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm happy for that.
56:37
[UNKNOWN]: And while I'm here, let me ask you on a question.
56:38
[UNKNOWN]: This is just me.
56:41
[UNKNOWN]: Wouldn't you, would you all be angry if they started ransom over Nick Scott?
56:46
[UNKNOWN]: Because if I was ahead coach, I would definitely.
56:49
[UNKNOWN]: start wearing some overdamp mixed up.
56:52
[UNKNOWN]: Next up needs to down leave.
56:53
[UNKNOWN]: He really does.
56:54
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he had an intersection last year, and he had a couple of good place last year, but he's been here for how long.
56:59
[UNKNOWN]: How many good places he had?
57:01
[UNKNOWN]: Last year was like only years.
57:03
[UNKNOWN]: I see him have good place, you know, for that one that gets to down rams and the ones that gets to packers of whatever they're finding my dad y'all.
57:13
[UNKNOWN]: But I'll start wearing some overdamp mixed up.
57:18
[UNKNOWN]: Give yourself on that y'all keep on it.
57:22
[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead, Cody.
57:25
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, baby, not late.
57:27
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Nick Scott is a punch is I've almost feel bad a little bit because he's just like a low hanging fruit kicking punching bag for Panther fans when they were going through it.
57:39
[UNKNOWN]: And he was all right.
57:40
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he played.
57:43
[UNKNOWN]: He, I think he's probably next Scott's like one of those players that, and forgive me, Trayboss, and this is not insult to you by any means.
57:53
[UNKNOWN]: Trayboss, him, was a very good player when he was playing on very good defenses.
58:01
[UNKNOWN]: But when he was on regular defenses,
58:04
[UNKNOWN]: He wasn't as good, you know, and maybe Nick Scott is a kind of a player that's in that category where
58:15
[UNKNOWN]: alone, they can't be a star or a great player, but when other players are doing their jobs and that they're not as they can thrive, somehow, this team, not somehow, but somewhere, this team finds some value in next got veteran presence, things like that.
58:40
[UNKNOWN]: But I think two G's point, though, is that you are, you drafted Latham ransom for a for a reason.
58:50
[UNKNOWN]: And you're hoping that he can work his way into a larger role on this team.
58:56
[UNKNOWN]: But I would not, I don't necessarily believe that that is going to be happening right out
59:11
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, like I feel by the way, so I was changing my microphone, that's why I couldn't answer your right away and make the show as long as I'm the right one.
59:18
[UNKNOWN]: But I feel like next Scott and David Moore occupy a similar position on this roster, different positions, obviously, but I feel like the coaching staff, they may not feel like they're world builders, but they feel comfortable with those guys in those positions.
59:36
[UNKNOWN]: if nobody's able to beat them out for the spot.
59:39
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and I think that there is a level of trust that this defense does have with next God, especially with the Jiro Vero, um, calling him plays on defense.
59:50
[UNKNOWN]: Now.
59:51
[UNKNOWN]: You know, between the guys that we drafted this year and let's advance some from last year, I'm really hoping that he can be replaced, but I am not a fan of the player.
1:00:03
[UNKNOWN]: I think that we can do better.
1:00:04
[UNKNOWN]: I think a lot of people feel like we can do better, but I'm just a little bit of my boy Drake does.
1:00:11
[UNKNOWN]: He said Nick, the Nick Scott is a definition of a clown.
1:00:16
[UNKNOWN]: So he's had some really bad bust.
1:00:20
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
1:00:50
[UNKNOWN]: That's why people wanted us to draft that kid that went to Oregon state or Oregon that went to the eagles that ran the the white kid that ran the Four three that played safety that was drafted is because we just haven't had a range of safety is we got more box guys and when you put ransom and more besides each other you're wondering is there.
1:01:16
[UNKNOWN]: slightly a duplication of talent that I don't think that excludes him.
1:01:20
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Scott is a ranger player either.
1:01:24
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm just a terribly right.
1:01:26
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's go to Anthony from Charlotte.
1:01:29
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
1:01:31
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, come here for one second.
1:01:32
[UNKNOWN]: Yo, yo, yo, yo, what's going on C3?
1:01:33
[UNKNOWN]: It's Anthony from Charlotte.
1:01:36
[UNKNOWN]: I hope you all boys are having a good Tuesday, man.
1:01:38
[UNKNOWN]: Um, just wanted to come on here and, you know,
1:01:46
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, first off, prayers go out to Taylor mode and man, blood clots are no joke.
1:01:52
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, feeling a lot of athletes have been getting them as a recently.
1:01:58
[UNKNOWN]: It's definitely scary, man.
1:01:59
[UNKNOWN]: You know, take as much time as you need, man.
1:02:03
[UNKNOWN]: You know, take care of your health and get back when you can, man.
1:02:09
[UNKNOWN]: You know, assuming this is Taylor's last year on the team, you know,
1:02:17
[UNKNOWN]: it's thanks for not going to happen for you know it seems like he's going to miss four games so you know that's definitely difficult but at the same time this is what you dropped him in row four and you know you brought for any Christians in deck seems like the front office maybe they knew about this you know earlier but that the Monroe pick is starting to look a lot smarter and you know eventually there was there came a point in time where damn was going to have to retool the offensive line
1:02:46
[UNKNOWN]: probably going to have to make changes next year again too, you know, just because of the youngster, you know, some of these positions, but personally, we have new tackles this year, you know, obviously with Motonown now, it's both on the left-and-right.
1:03:03
[UNKNOWN]: I'm confident in the guys, man.
1:03:05
[UNKNOWN]: I'm confident in Rishi Walker, actually like Rishi Walker, he's playing for a contract this year, and then Monroe Freelings probably going to step
1:03:15
[UNKNOWN]: hoping good for him to get you know four or five games under his belt uh... the kind of you know get his feet what a little bit uh... and then chasing horn with uh... this the stitches man you know he tweeted out like i'm all good you know so that that's good to see so i'm a bad
1:03:37
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, and then we're here training camps here, Brookings reported today, excites going, you know, all the over reaction videos, the rest of the summer we're going to see, and you know, all this players doing terrible, and you know, all this stuff, all these over reactions, but at the end of the day, you know, there's real expectations for this team this year.
1:03:56
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm definitely, this is the most excited that I've been in a while for a Panther season this start.
1:04:03
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I probably say until 2023,
1:04:06
[UNKNOWN]: But 2023, I feel like his family had to sell ourselves on a lot of stuff.
1:04:10
[UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like I'm selling myself.
1:04:11
[UNKNOWN]: I'm nearly as many much things like this Panthers team.
1:04:15
[UNKNOWN]: I just look at the roster and the coaching staff and the front office, and I'm like, damn, it looks pretty good.
1:04:23
[UNKNOWN]: You know, like, so overall, you know, that's what I just wanted to say.
1:04:26
[UNKNOWN]: Give me your thoughts on, you know, how do you guys think Monroe's going to step into this role and pres up the tailor?
1:04:32
[UNKNOWN]: Anthony from Charlotte King, motherfucking fountain.
1:04:35
[UNKNOWN]: Perzo, Tony, do you think this is the final year of 10th of a mountain like this is is this year his one song with the Panthers?
1:04:44
[UNKNOWN]: No, I would hate it.
1:04:46
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that's the case.
1:04:49
[UNKNOWN]: And I know that the Panthers didn't see that as the case.
1:04:52
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't believe Taylor Moton saw this as a case.
1:04:55
[UNKNOWN]: I see this as an unforeseen health issue that's come up.
1:04:59
[UNKNOWN]: And if this health issue proves to be more than just a one-off, but something that is problematic or not
1:05:14
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think the only reason it would be Taylor Moton's last season with the Panthers, I think would be, mean it's his last season in football, into where injury, surgery, problems that would then lead to concerns of more blood clots.
1:05:35
[UNKNOWN]: In the future, would have to make him force him to make a decision about I have to choose football or my life.
1:05:45
[UNKNOWN]: in the sense.
1:05:47
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't think the panthers just extended them for two years.
1:05:51
[UNKNOWN]: He's taught about how he sees like he doesn't even see himself not playing in the near future.
1:06:00
[UNKNOWN]: If it is his last season, I think that this health can flare up this concern, this issue with the
1:06:09
[UNKNOWN]: means that it's a reoccurring or problematic issue beyond just this one.
1:06:14
[UNKNOWN]: That's what my answer would be that.
1:06:16
[UNKNOWN]: Also what I'm mentioning to Anthony, I agree with you, man, is like something feels a little different.
1:06:23
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, we try to manufacture optimism in the past.
1:06:28
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is the most sound.
1:06:31
[UNKNOWN]: my optimism has been going forward for this team, but that doesn't mean that I think they're going to be fucking incredible.
1:06:38
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I just think we're positioned to be better than we have been in other moments, but you still got to go do it.
1:06:47
[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll address his other things as we go along.
1:06:52
[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead, you're
1:06:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh real quick super chat five dollars from Drew says if you were someone to bash the line back in the last year next shot was worse next Scott the diversion of P.J.
1:07:04
[UNKNOWN]: Walker who loves him for unknown reason Appreciate you Drew.
1:07:10
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean nobody loves next guy.
1:07:13
[UNKNOWN]: No nobody's just everybody Hate next guy.
1:07:16
[UNKNOWN]: That's the problem.
1:07:17
[UNKNOWN]: I think that hate is too far on next guy
1:07:23
[UNKNOWN]: And I've been child of the Panthers.
1:07:25
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like what chocolate here is your bastard and child and I think with PJ Walker at least you can say fuck it through one of the greatest passes in our history.
1:07:34
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
1:07:35
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Nick Scott doesn't have anything.
1:07:38
[UNKNOWN]: on the level, but I don't know, I don't know until about this is final year.
1:07:42
[UNKNOWN]: Remember, he did a press conference.
1:07:44
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe I was at the end.
1:07:46
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
1:07:47
[UNKNOWN]: And he really seemed like he was like, he seemed like he was prepared to continue to play and that he wasn't.
1:07:55
[UNKNOWN]: you know, intending on quitting anytime soon.
1:07:58
[UNKNOWN]: Now, as you mentioned, blood clots can change your mind on those kinds of things, but I think it'll be interesting to see what he does decide to do, especially if my row for it.
1:08:12
[UNKNOWN]: Like, this is another scenario we haven't even thought of yet telling it.
1:08:16
[UNKNOWN]: But if Monroe Freeling is lights out at right tackle and what if it came a corner comes back and then he reassumes that left tackle position and just picks up right where he left off.
1:08:31
[UNKNOWN]: Or what if Walker is good?
1:08:34
[UNKNOWN]: And Freeland is lights out.
1:08:37
[UNKNOWN]: And then you get to just roll with those guys and ease the other people back in.
1:08:41
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Panthers Drew said I said the coach loves him.
1:08:46
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say Nick Scott, though, it was under Frank Wright to start.
1:08:50
[UNKNOWN]: So that means he's like two coaches love him.
1:08:52
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not entirely sure.
1:08:53
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he did come with the canalist regime entirely.
1:08:57
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that is kind of the point that I made earlier,
1:09:01
[UNKNOWN]: the coaches trust him enough to continue to put him in those positions.
1:09:06
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:09:06
[UNKNOWN]: And I do think that's a good point that Drew is making.
1:09:10
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not wrong.
1:09:11
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know.
1:09:13
[UNKNOWN]: He's just not, he's not a fan favorite.
1:09:16
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's not about to me.
1:09:17
[UNKNOWN]: He is the punching bag of Panther fans, low hanging fruit.
1:09:23
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next go.
1:09:30
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, this has nothing to do with all the panthers right now.
1:09:33
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Cody Cody I just watched your video on you too.
1:09:37
[UNKNOWN]: It's amazing brother amazing and I know that you are a handicapped and everything like that and my heart goes out to the handicapped community.
1:09:45
[UNKNOWN]: I have been that way since I was a little boy.
1:09:47
[UNKNOWN]: God bless you brother.
1:09:59
[UNKNOWN]: regardless of what you're going to brother.
1:10:02
[UNKNOWN]: I respect you, and I respect C.K.E.
1:10:07
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, the man, the myth, Tony, I respect all of y'all.
1:10:12
[UNKNOWN]: I am a K-line of podcast fan.
1:10:15
[UNKNOWN]: I've been a fan for the years.
1:10:17
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, go ahead and love the good work.
1:10:20
[UNKNOWN]: And guys, I'm so glad to see you and meet you.
1:10:23
[UNKNOWN]: I will shake your hand and C.K.
1:10:26
[UNKNOWN]: I will shake your hand.
1:10:28
[UNKNOWN]: And of course, the Master of the Rules of Tony, I'll share your answers to it.
1:10:31
[UNKNOWN]: I'll just get beer with you if you drink alcohol.
1:10:34
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:10:34
[UNKNOWN]: So I bless you, brother.
1:10:35
[UNKNOWN]: That video was amazing and I put a smile to my face.
1:10:39
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you.
1:10:40
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
1:10:41
[UNKNOWN]: Dear, you're the man, man.
1:10:43
[UNKNOWN]: You're the man, dear.
1:10:44
[UNKNOWN]: There was an incredible experience.
1:10:48
[UNKNOWN]: I see Panther God missed it.
1:10:50
[UNKNOWN]: I'll post it in the chat.
1:10:51
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
1:10:52
[UNKNOWN]: You're about, you're in for the biggest treat that you can, and what you know what's funny about this, not funny.
1:11:00
[UNKNOWN]: That's not the right word, but we say that.
1:11:02
[UNKNOWN]: I say that as like we often say that when we're just like a linguistic trope or whatever.
1:11:08
[UNKNOWN]: But I feel like I kind of remember you guys like this being mentioned.
1:11:14
[UNKNOWN]: Like Cody, like how much were you in the loop that it was still going on or did they just like drop this like they did it back a year ago and fell off the radar and then they were like, hey, by the way, it's done.
1:11:39
[UNKNOWN]: originally they said that it would be out in October, but they were there was just doing this one for for free and they got paid to do some other ones, so that was on the back burner a little bit, but one night I'm checking my email and I'm like,
1:11:55
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, they you almost forgot about.
1:11:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I don't what forgot about it.
1:12:01
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, it was late at night.
1:12:03
[UNKNOWN]: And um, yeah, me and my mom watched it together.
1:12:06
[UNKNOWN]: It was really cool.
1:12:07
[UNKNOWN]: It was uh, it was a great experience on here.
1:12:10
[UNKNOWN]: I'll post it in the chat.
1:12:11
[UNKNOWN]: Still one of my best jokes is the first time I cried.
1:12:16
[UNKNOWN]: when we were doing the interview with the fessukes.
1:12:19
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:12:20
[UNKNOWN]: And I said the first time my crap, which I did crap, then I remember other than like, and I'm a sap.
1:12:25
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a sap for anything.
1:12:27
[UNKNOWN]: But was that Cam Newton how I said.
1:12:36
[UNKNOWN]: uh... cameras in our uh... in our new section later uh... but i i really love that they also went back they got my first time on the pod in the cat calls they got my first time on the show on the draft party when we drafted DJ Moore uh...
1:12:55
[UNKNOWN]: They got you've been Joe the freaking Puerto Rican real.
1:12:59
[UNKNOWN]: I know, like Tony Dine like age and this, um, one other thing and we move on from that because we glazed you enough last week.
1:13:10
[UNKNOWN]: I really did think it was when we were talking with the festoaks not.
1:13:17
[UNKNOWN]: is that you were talking about how, like initially, maybe even in the documentary, it's like putting yourself on the internet was that something that you weren't comfortable with.
1:13:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this whole thing has been an act of me coming out of my show.
1:13:33
[UNKNOWN]: Embracing, being open and honest about my disability on the internet, that's something I didn't ever really used to feel comfortable about doing, but
1:13:41
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm the star of the fucking show you become of internet villain You think about that though is like That is an interesting Ark too, but that been here for it, you know is like you know is
1:14:00
[UNKNOWN]: asking going from caller to come on the show to this and then it's like everybody's just here to see Cody.
1:14:10
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm so of this thing, man, you're the hard to be here to see that love having you here.
1:14:15
[UNKNOWN]: I'm fine.
1:14:17
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
1:14:19
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's go to the escale.
1:14:27
[UNKNOWN]: put it up everybody is to hope they'll be checking in real quick.
1:14:32
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, so many times when I call them what my cat calls, I have to do it in advance because I normally have to work late on Tuesdays and I didn't get a chance last week to give Cody like his flowers.
1:14:45
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, here we go.
1:14:46
[UNKNOWN]: But I have no idea.
1:14:47
[UNKNOWN]: I watch your documentary and totality.
1:14:50
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
1:14:51
[UNKNOWN]: Let me just say, man, that that is so inspiring.
1:14:56
[UNKNOWN]: the fact that the doctor's gave you two years to live and you're here that you're 35 years old man, I've got you, Jason Mercy and and you've been just such a great guy and the inspiration to us all, man.
1:15:14
[UNKNOWN]: I want to thank you Cody like, man, for everything you do.
1:15:17
[UNKNOWN]: I want to give you your flowers, man, because you work so hard.
1:15:22
[UNKNOWN]: I love this community.
1:15:23
[UNKNOWN]: I love the region.
1:15:25
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I feel like this is the one place in the world right now where we can even disagree without being disagreeable.
1:15:32
[UNKNOWN]: Right, man.
1:15:33
[UNKNOWN]: I remember that the Legion is so strong that, you know, nothing can can separate us, you know, not politics, you know, are not different religious convictions, you know, not different world views and viewpoints, and I'm just so grateful we got a place on Tuesday,
1:15:52
[UNKNOWN]: where we can enjoy pamper football, we can chalk it up baby, we can have a bit time and coat it back, and then your inspiration then I appreciate you and everything you do.
1:16:03
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna call that with a big sack of calling about the pamper's man, but love you guys.
1:16:08
[UNKNOWN]: I love the old day of the pre-chage to man.
1:16:10
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, being a part of the C3 has been one of the biggest blessings ever, man.
1:16:15
[UNKNOWN]: Tony, you, of course, have given me this opportunity and everyone in the podcast, comment section, man.
1:16:22
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's just been so cool and, yeah, whenever we get to do meet ups and you get to meet fans in person, that's also a cool experience being able to put a face to a name, people that we have really a part of our lives.
1:16:37
[UNKNOWN]: You know, for me multiple times a week between the Tuesday show and the free for all, it's just really, it's an incredible experience, man.
1:16:45
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm happy to be here doing it with y'all.
1:16:49
[UNKNOWN]: I can't tell you like how important the relationships that I've built have through this community.
1:16:58
[UNKNOWN]: The hope dealer, thank you so much for the call or that there's comments.
1:17:01
[UNKNOWN]: It means so much just to me personally, not because I
1:17:05
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like, oh, I create this.
1:17:07
[UNKNOWN]: That's not what it is like, Nick Monterey, my boy, my brother, from Cody Latt to CK, everybody like Nick has driven from fucking Massachusetts twice to help me to help me personally.
1:17:24
[UNKNOWN]: with my home.
1:17:25
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
1:17:26
[UNKNOWN]: We got vacation together.
1:17:27
[UNKNOWN]: Like, and you know what, we had never met in person prior to that.
1:17:32
[UNKNOWN]: Like, but we had a conference.
1:17:34
[UNKNOWN]: We had become such great friends just through the internet of this.
1:17:38
[UNKNOWN]: But what was so heartwarming about the hope dealers called to me is that he said, this is one space where I feel like we can disagree.
1:17:52
[UNKNOWN]: without being disagreeable and maybe I am the old man on this podcast and I did start this podcast initially because I was so tired of arguing politics with my family or friends or all of this stuff and it was just like why and you know what in retrospect now how things have changed over the last 14 years, the fact that I had that feeling then,
1:18:20
[UNKNOWN]: and to think of the climate today now is insane because it's only gotten fucking hyperbolicly worse for that but it learning to disagree but still respect people is something that's important
1:18:42
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm digressing a little bit, but he brought it up in the call, and it's something that is hard for people in this world to do right now, and that is to not be on the same lock step on every single thing without losing respect or disrespecting the other person.
1:19:07
[UNKNOWN]: You know what is like.
1:19:11
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, my one of my best friends at work today said that she doesn't, she doesn't like bananas.
1:19:17
[UNKNOWN]: And I love bananas.
1:19:19
[UNKNOWN]: I like, love bananas.
1:19:20
[UNKNOWN]: I like banana putty is like one of my favorite desserts.
1:19:23
[UNKNOWN]: Like I imagine at this rate what we're going from from politics to sports to whatever in your life is that we're on the trajectory of like I can't be friends with you if you don't like bananas.
1:19:37
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and we don't need to be going there.
1:19:40
[UNKNOWN]: We need to be like, I'm fine.
1:19:42
[UNKNOWN]: Don't like that, because I love banana pudding.
1:19:44
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, and this has been my biggest learning experience is doing the free for all.
1:19:48
[UNKNOWN]: And like, this is who I am in real life.
1:19:51
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need anyone to agree with me on any scenario.
1:19:55
[UNKNOWN]: You know, as long as you have a base level of respect for me, I respect you and what you believe on anything in life.
1:20:04
[UNKNOWN]: Just like the, you know, VR, the hope dealer was standing in his call.
1:20:09
[UNKNOWN]: And this has also been one of the things that I wanted to bring to the free for all.
1:20:14
[UNKNOWN]: Every Friday at 7 p.m.
1:20:15
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to get more people to continue to come in so we can continue to put more names to faces and faces to names.
1:20:25
[UNKNOWN]: What you're repenting on love and you have been the biggest Cam Newton defenders in all of Panthers fandom But if you're someone who thinks that Cam Newton was just some overrated up jump running back
1:20:45
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, we want to do feel heard over here too, man, which we're fans talking to.
1:20:50
[UNKNOWN]: This is really football.
1:20:52
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what this whole thing is about.
1:20:54
[UNKNOWN]: And the moment that this becomes not about just that, then we've lost our way.
1:21:00
[UNKNOWN]: But that's what the secret is.
1:21:02
[UNKNOWN]: We're just fans talking, panther football.
1:21:05
[UNKNOWN]: I can say Tony fans on the way to in front of the game, talking about the game.
1:21:11
[UNKNOWN]: that's what we do and that's what we're going to continue to do from now until we in this show.
1:21:18
[UNKNOWN]: I went to mass this past Saturday.
1:21:22
[UNKNOWN]: I went to Saturday mass with my family and where I'm Catholic.
1:21:26
[UNKNOWN]: So when I say this word, you're going to be like, what does that mean?
1:21:30
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not saying, you know, but it's like the pre says is homily, which is
1:21:36
[UNKNOWN]: The technical term for the sermon, right?
1:21:39
[UNKNOWN]: So they do the reading and then they talk about what the reading means.
1:21:44
[UNKNOWN]: And he talked about, um, he brought up this saint that had suffered.
1:21:50
[UNKNOWN]: and the person said that they're suffering allowed them greater empathy and I thought my saint my brother Cody said the same thing they said the same thing you're saying Cody you're not on the other side yeah there you go yeah let's go back to the hope dealer
1:22:15
[UNKNOWN]: Opel a second call, but yeah, I wanted to give Cody's aquis flowers and a one big flower for Cody like one huge flat flower is our man Brady Christopher's back baby.
1:22:28
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go think about that.
1:22:30
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, let me.
1:22:32
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know that's your boy, but hey, y'all, you know,
1:22:43
[UNKNOWN]: shout out to Will Brewer too on this retirement.
1:22:46
[UNKNOWN]: I do have a question man, you know, with Will Brewer tiring and training camp basically been here.
1:22:53
[UNKNOWN]: What do y'all think about this for Haynes King?
1:22:55
[UNKNOWN]: Like, and my reading too much into this, but we think that I got an opportunity, man, you know, to compete, and I'm not necessarily for the backup spot.
1:23:05
[UNKNOWN]: I know we got King
1:23:10
[UNKNOWN]: You know, give me your thoughts on that man, if y'all think that that's something we should look into.
1:23:15
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but a man shout out to my man John B. Jenkins, man.
1:23:19
[UNKNOWN]: You know what, a man but love for your brother.
1:23:22
[UNKNOWN]: Man to the whole region, man Harvey London.
1:23:25
[UNKNOWN]: Man all y'all can't, man.
1:23:27
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I really appreciate you guys.
1:23:30
[UNKNOWN]: Love you guys, man.
1:23:31
[UNKNOWN]: Love this community.
1:23:32
[UNKNOWN]: Love the reason, baby.
1:23:34
[UNKNOWN]: This is the world.
1:23:35
[UNKNOWN]: If I'm in the right, kids, you don't pay.
1:23:37
[UNKNOWN]: Holy, kids, don't stop it.
1:23:39
[UNKNOWN]: So why try?
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[UNKNOWN]: Is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill or is that our new taste from Hill
1:24:29
[UNKNOWN]: We have a quarterback who is what five ten.
1:24:33
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
1:24:59
[UNKNOWN]: with um, even though he could sneak under their legs and do some stuff like this is I could see a moment you get you're on the goal line.
1:25:08
[UNKNOWN]: It was just.
1:25:12
[UNKNOWN]: Let's put them put price out there on the like you can run the wild cat with hands king.
1:25:19
[UNKNOWN]: I did there is something to this guy had like in insane amount of touchdowns in college at Georgia tech.
1:25:27
[UNKNOWN]: Do he, uh, he torched up my clumps and tigers last year.
1:25:31
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he's, he's a, he's a good quarterback, he's mobile, he's strong, uh, you know, we've always made the discussion why doesn't Dave can now just trust Bryce on the one yard, he'll be sneak, well, maybe he doesn't need to anymore of hands, kings.
1:25:48
[UNKNOWN]: Um, comes in here at last.
1:25:51
[UNKNOWN]: And that that actually is like a good discussion now that Will Greer is no longer on this team.
1:25:56
[UNKNOWN]: You're down to Bryce, Kenny Pickett and hands can't think about Will Greer.
1:26:02
[UNKNOWN]: There's sign in a contract with the Panthers and then being like, you know what?
1:26:06
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to retire.
1:26:07
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what?
1:26:08
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:26:08
[UNKNOWN]: I've been in a money for you.
1:26:10
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
1:26:10
[UNKNOWN]: And you know what makes it weird?
1:26:12
[UNKNOWN]: The rumors were that before he signed, but Carolina, the cowboys often in my coaching job.
1:26:18
[UNKNOWN]: They're from a job on staff to be at coach.
1:26:21
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what went into his decision.
1:26:25
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's really going to be a Cowboys coach now.
1:26:29
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I mean, if you really want to play some 5D chess here, maybe they knew that Taylor Moton had this type of injury, and they wanted to make another roster spot to bring back Brady Christians.
1:26:42
[UNKNOWN]: This is funny.
1:26:43
[UNKNOWN]: He said, uh, the real AP's hitting you up.
1:26:46
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, little Greer Cody's favorite quarterback.
1:26:50
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, shut up.
1:26:51
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it wasn't the other guy and uh, then it was uh, the other guy that went to turn the hang of you.
1:27:01
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, come on, you already forget your guy.
1:27:04
[UNKNOWN]: He's playing in the CFL, the AFL, now or whatever.
1:27:07
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that, Matt Correll?
1:27:09
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, sir.
1:27:10
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, we're in a Mac Correll, back, sure.
1:27:14
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, we're here.
1:27:16
[UNKNOWN]: Here was the insurance policy when David Tepper first bought the Panthers for Cam Newton being injured.
1:27:24
[UNKNOWN]: That's all he was.
1:27:25
[UNKNOWN]: I am not down with drafting any late round quarterbass and ever caring about them.
1:27:30
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
1:27:30
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
1:27:31
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing is a to me a third round quarterback is a fucking wasted pick.
1:27:37
[UNKNOWN]: and less for some reason you get Tom Brady in the six and they turn out to be a whole favor.
1:27:43
[UNKNOWN]: I guess Drew Breeze might have been a second or third, but I don't think you really believe in him.
1:27:49
[UNKNOWN]: When did I remember they never get to crack the roster?
1:27:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:27:54
[UNKNOWN]: That's my point.
1:27:58
[UNKNOWN]: Robert Perry, he was not the last pick, but I think it was just like out of fortune that he got into the role.
1:28:09
[UNKNOWN]: Like, they didn't ever think it was going to happen.
1:28:12
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it was like, everybody got hurt or something.
1:28:14
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they ever, I think rarely do you draft a mid round quarterback with the plan of them being able to pierce through the ceiling, maybe, maybe Russell Wilson round three took his job in every year, but you know what I feel like is any time these
1:28:37
[UNKNOWN]: quarterbacks, Russell Wilson there was, I think the college football player the year too, but he fell because of his height.
1:28:47
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, go ahead and introduce the next topic in you and C.K.
1:28:51
[UNKNOWN]: Take it, I'll be back in 60 seconds.
1:28:55
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir.
1:28:56
[UNKNOWN]: Show.
1:28:58
[UNKNOWN]: We've talked about the offense, C.K.
1:29:01
[UNKNOWN]: Now, your boy, your favorite coach on the roster.
1:29:07
[UNKNOWN]: The one that I think absolutely is going to be here long term.
1:29:10
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just a fixture.
1:29:12
[UNKNOWN]: He's been a real, he's been a building block in this coaching room.
1:29:19
[UNKNOWN]: This makes a little smash mouth and defenses with this for, but this is from Tim River and Panthers Wire says Panthers code to name potential breakout assistant for 2026.
1:29:33
[UNKNOWN]: The zero and barrel didn't have the greatest talent to work with during his first three years as the offensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers for most of his run linemen during
1:29:48
[UNKNOWN]: have been.
1:29:49
[UNKNOWN]: The only reliable performers of the unit putting in a low ceiling of just defense can accomplish, but that can change here in 2026.
1:29:59
[UNKNOWN]: The front office plunged on a pair of promising online backers this all season.
1:30:03
[UNKNOWN]: St. and Pastor Richard Jalen Phillips, and Pro Bull or David Lloyd, and because of those freeage in the ditches, as well as the hugely forward from 2024 to 2025, Jordan Rodriguez, of the athletic tabs of arrow, as one of 32 assistant coaches are primed for a big season.
1:30:35
[UNKNOWN]: It says it might seem strange to include an assistant who has already drawn plenty of interest for head coaching and practices over the last few years, but you're very on the Panthers defense have also been rebuilding with the hope that the 2026 is a breakout year for everyone.
1:30:55
[UNKNOWN]: Carolina Secondary was a real success story in 2025, and this spring, the team added other German talent at Pashwasher and inside linebacker, Egero has assembled a talent in smart defense.
1:31:10
[UNKNOWN]: And okay, this has been saying man, it's a put up shut up year for our entire defense.
1:31:17
[UNKNOWN]: I've been going on to say that if Jason Phillips is through Dan Morgan thinks he is
1:31:25
[UNKNOWN]: This has a potential to be a top five defensive unit in the NFL.
1:31:31
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's the hope, man.
1:31:33
[UNKNOWN]: Like at this point in time, if we, if I do think that putting him on this list is incredibly premature, you know, it's there has been, I want to make this absolutely clear.
1:31:46
[UNKNOWN]: There's been nothing that Evo has done that has put him on the map as a head coaching candidate.
1:31:52
[UNKNOWN]: as a Panthers coordinator.
1:31:53
[UNKNOWN]: I want to make that clear, right?
1:31:55
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a single thing I can point to that makes me think this guy should be on the list of any potential breakout coordinators, okay?
1:32:04
[UNKNOWN]: Now to Jordan Rodriguez, you know, defense.
1:32:07
[UNKNOWN]: If she's just making this list based on what she expects Caroline is defense to look like because of the additions, that's understandable from the outside looking in that you're gonna see a guy who has been a part of head coaching conversations
1:32:23
[UNKNOWN]: And then you see these additions and the fact that we have essentially a healthy defense this year for the most part.
1:32:31
[UNKNOWN]: I think that you could forgive her for making those decisions to put him in that list.
1:32:36
[UNKNOWN]: I just think it's incredibly, it would be, it's a weird position to put him on that list.
1:32:44
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it would be a better list if it would say potential, you know, potential dark horses in the race for a head coaching candidate's next year.
1:32:52
[UNKNOWN]: That's a little different.
1:32:54
[UNKNOWN]: But this is like, these are people that we expect could ascend and that's a little odd to me.
1:33:01
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Tony, do you think a beggar could be a head coach handed it at the end of this year, depending on what he does with our defense?
1:33:13
[UNKNOWN]: I think that I think CK's right and say premature to have a list, but what I like this, like what he's done,
1:33:24
[UNKNOWN]: But it is forecasting this is that respected by players has had success in Denver has had some success in Carolina is you could at least resume success CK like I know that you could point to it and as we're in the mock, but you know when you come out of this season and and give me a moment to get to what would happen to have to happen this season.
1:33:53
[UNKNOWN]: is you could point to a top five defense in Denver, a top five in which we said was full's gold two years ago or whatever it was that you know in certain categories like you can put certain things on your resume that people just see under the accomplishments but don't like necessarily like dig into.
1:34:19
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I think that this would be just like you said is that the Panthers come out with the top five defense, then you, then all the sudden that resett those accomplishments in the past.
1:34:30
[UNKNOWN]: Support what just happened more to give that pedigree momentum there.
1:34:38
[UNKNOWN]: So I think this is, yeah, I mean, I do think that he could come out as a if the Panthers make this giant leap.
1:34:48
[UNKNOWN]: And defense is that yeah, I mean, it could be a hot name.
1:34:51
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are hot team turn around stuff like this, but like right now I don't foresee
1:35:00
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying I don't foresee the Panthers defense being great now.
1:35:03
[UNKNOWN]: So don't necessarily want to say that don't foresee evero being in head coach talks.
1:35:08
[UNKNOWN]: But premature is a good word.
1:35:11
[UNKNOWN]: TK and that is like, hey, let's just worry about fucking getting a good defense out there before that.
1:35:18
[UNKNOWN]: But you're in the dirt of football.
1:35:21
[UNKNOWN]: You got to make this.
1:35:23
[UNKNOWN]: You got to put somebody on a list that's not supposed to be there and you're supposed to leave somebody off, but how many of these assistants just ascend like catapult into the stratosphere.
1:35:37
[UNKNOWN]: Add a nowhere, you know, I mean,
1:35:40
[UNKNOWN]: Think of what happened with the Eagles with Syrian and their success in that there's got like the guy that went to the card was a guy that went to the Colts like him in the Panthers rip it off and start to become a great team their coordinators will get looked at.
1:36:00
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
1:36:01
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, but hey, is I don't know is I.
1:36:06
[UNKNOWN]: He is, I think the player is really like him and respect him.
1:36:10
[UNKNOWN]: I think they think he, I mean, he's super smart.
1:36:14
[UNKNOWN]: I just wonder in the interviews if he's two level headed.
1:36:17
[UNKNOWN]: Like he is, I think he would be great in, or maybe awful in those, like press conference moments because he's like,
1:36:30
[UNKNOWN]: very succinct and straight to the point.
1:36:34
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't give too much out.
1:36:36
[UNKNOWN]: Like, would he be amazing?
1:36:37
[UNKNOWN]: Like, would he be a bill beller check?
1:36:39
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, I'm not answering your question.
1:36:42
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:36:43
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like his inability to adjust.
1:36:48
[UNKNOWN]: You know, for example, he doesn't let's all lie.
1:36:51
[UNKNOWN]: And even when you had when Derek Brown was no longer on this team and you were no longer
1:36:59
[UNKNOWN]: He never adjusted to try to say more blitzes to get home and I didn't know I respect the fact that he wants to win with just his guys on the line, but I don't know man to me there's just been something about his defense that has left a lot of wanting in recent years.
1:37:18
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know what it is, is that the offense is hardly ever out there.
1:37:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we never played complimentary football and they're out on the field way too long.
1:37:29
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right, what's the next?
1:37:32
[UNKNOWN]: All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
1:37:38
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I've got this going straight to that do you mind?
1:37:41
[UNKNOWN]: Um, this is, I don't know if this is, but as far as NFL breakout candidates, many people are listing our very own next court and as a potential breakout candidate this year.
1:37:56
[UNKNOWN]: I believe you had like five sex last year.
1:37:59
[UNKNOWN]: She was a rookie and now that you have Dylan Phillips and Derek Brown,
1:38:07
[UNKNOWN]: their next corner might be some nightmare for folks.
1:38:10
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we need them, right?
1:38:12
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
1:38:12
[UNKNOWN]: We need one of these.
1:38:16
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's not a first round pick.
1:38:17
[UNKNOWN]: We've invested over the entire time I've doing this podcast and trying to find a defensive end in the second and third round at times.
1:38:31
[UNKNOWN]: and they come out and they get scored and then princely omenulin who both have shown far more promised than some of those previous second and third fourth or whatever picks at the defensive line of thinking of the old guy who was the old guy that we just got rid of.
1:38:55
[UNKNOWN]: Evaro's guy, um, he was still alive from Oregon.
1:39:01
[UNKNOWN]: I think, DJ Johnson.
1:39:05
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, like his, I think Scorton has shown more promise in that short term than in a couple of these guys.
1:39:14
[UNKNOWN]: And the other one that went to 40 nine or she was okay, but not great.
1:39:20
[UNKNOWN]: I do think like is like we need a player that we drafted that wasn't the first round pig to ascend and I think Scorton showed a lot I think and like we need one of these guys to break through Pat Jones is ready to sit in there healthy veteran.
1:39:43
[UNKNOWN]: I don't disagree with this.
1:39:45
[UNKNOWN]: I think squirting when he came out of college guys you know what you said is in and Cody said this all the scouts said this the motor the motor on this yet and he never quit on these plays.
1:40:01
[UNKNOWN]: So I hope this is the guy.
1:40:03
[UNKNOWN]: I hope we're starting him.
1:40:04
[UNKNOWN]: I hope that all of a sudden this guy's seven, eight, sacs this season and makes a big difference.
1:40:09
[UNKNOWN]: I could see it happen.
1:40:11
[UNKNOWN]: I hope it happens.
1:40:13
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I got.
1:40:15
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, I'm excited about him.
1:40:17
[UNKNOWN]: And it's gonna be easier for him with good pieces around him.
1:40:23
[UNKNOWN]: The issue is, is that like you were mentioned in Jalen Phillips being a big distractor, problem at like disruptor, dare it Brown, Jalen Phillips disruptor, but the lack of having Turk Wharton right is now you're leaning into another rookie a little bit more.
1:40:43
[UNKNOWN]: I honestly think that the player, that the Carolina Panthers need, like the peace, that is going to be the secret ingredient to the sauce that can make a scorten that could make Jalen Phillips just even thrive even more is Bobby Brown the third.
1:41:06
[UNKNOWN]: I think he might be able if he can play up like to his capability or what he's played in a little bit better that will help that interior so much that where these guys can eat a little bit more.
1:41:25
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, Nick, uh, Nick, did you want to get it on next morning?
1:41:30
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think we hit the nail on the head when you said he has to be a breakout, right, like we, he had a lot of promise last year.
1:41:40
[UNKNOWN]: I think we were hoping that we would have seen more, but I mean, when you look at the stats and everything I think you can.
1:41:46
[UNKNOWN]: say that the dude, you know, has what it takes.
1:41:48
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a matter of putting everything together and being put in the right position to be successful in this all defensive line.
1:41:55
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, he absolutely.
1:41:57
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think when you add a jail in Phillips or any of these, you know, you have Derek Brown now Lee Hunter.
1:42:04
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the attention can come off of one guy.
1:42:07
[UNKNOWN]: But I think we can all agree last year there was one guy that was going to be getting the
1:42:14
[UNKNOWN]: and it was going to be Nick Scorton.
1:42:16
[UNKNOWN]: Not that because he was just beating everybody, but because it was just like there's who else was he going to be?
1:42:22
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he did have.
1:42:23
[UNKNOWN]: We put up a stat CK one time.
1:42:25
[UNKNOWN]: You and I were doing this.
1:42:26
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know if Cody was here at that moment, but it was that he faced like the most double teams statistically.
1:42:35
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think they were like we have to gain plan for Nick Scorton.
1:42:38
[UNKNOWN]: It's like we can do this.
1:42:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, there's nobody else that's at the red.
1:42:44
[UNKNOWN]: So let's just lock up Derrick Brown and Nick Scorton and we're fine.
1:42:50
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it doesn't fill up.
1:42:53
[UNKNOWN]: He makes this whole thing right if he can be as advertised here.
1:42:58
[UNKNOWN]: The number.
1:42:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the biggest part.
1:43:03
[UNKNOWN]: All right, um, breakout candidate, uh, other people asking what's going on, do a princely can he break through, you know, that's what, like, we're in hopes that both of these guys can, right?
1:43:16
[UNKNOWN]: I think just the reps part for sport makes it more potential.
1:43:22
[UNKNOWN]: I think princely, you mean, yelling is kind of like,
1:43:26
[UNKNOWN]: The harder like I mean, I think he's been a good player.
1:43:30
[UNKNOWN]: He's played.
1:43:30
[UNKNOWN]: He says a couple.
1:43:31
[UNKNOWN]: He's had a couple of moments, but the problem is he just doesn't get the reps. You know, so it would be nice for sport to break out.
1:43:42
[UNKNOWN]: What do we got next?
1:43:42
[UNKNOWN]: We got two calls, too.
1:43:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, let's take two and do a finish.
1:43:47
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
1:43:48
[UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
1:43:51
[UNKNOWN]: It's good old sea dog here.
1:43:55
[UNKNOWN]: What up, cold dog, three nation.
1:43:58
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe not.
1:43:59
[UNKNOWN]: That's nice, man.
1:44:00
[UNKNOWN]: It's lots of things.
1:44:01
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is a lot of things in the wild.
1:44:04
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, like I said, it didn't check.
1:44:05
[UNKNOWN]: Man, I seen that document.
1:44:07
[UNKNOWN]: And actually, we're pretty damn cool, man.
1:44:09
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you're getting it right.
1:44:12
[UNKNOWN]: But anyway, please, I'm about to start.
1:44:17
[UNKNOWN]: Very exciting.
1:44:21
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I wanted to say something else on the ship, my damn mind.
1:44:25
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let's see.
1:44:26
[UNKNOWN]: Find the car.
1:44:27
[UNKNOWN]: They have to find the car.
1:44:28
[UNKNOWN]: Here we go.
1:44:29
[UNKNOWN]: OK, this is a lot from all over again.
1:44:36
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I want to talk about the office with tackle position about the tailor mode and blood type thing that he's probably going to miss part of the season.
1:44:44
[UNKNOWN]: How do y'all feel about that?
1:44:46
[UNKNOWN]: How do you feel about?
1:44:48
[UNKNOWN]: the office of the type of position as far as free means starting that that type of and receive what the thought of that right or the difference, free mean that right type of and put what that that type of, I want to know what y'all thought so in that and as far as Brady Christian his, his, uh, versatility, uh, versatility throughout the line and I wanted to talk about, um,
1:45:18
[UNKNOWN]: Um, the why was you to this, I want to get to all thoughts on who was why was he to do y'all think are on the top and bottom.
1:45:30
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, my European, I think, Jimmy Horn Jr. and David Moore are in trouble.
1:45:36
[UNKNOWN]: I think, I think, I think, Meshie has a really good chance to make the roster and when that dive over horn and more and that last fight, I got the three more and then
1:45:47
[UNKNOWN]: I think Jimmy and Jorge are going to have a tough time making this long.
1:45:50
[UNKNOWN]: We got the ball and it's you.
1:45:51
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to know y'all talk to them.
1:45:52
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I've got to say.
1:45:54
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
1:45:54
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, locks.
1:45:56
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the call.
1:45:57
[UNKNOWN]: We've talked a little bit or a lot about the Taylor Mutant Effect.
1:46:04
[UNKNOWN]: And again, thank you.
1:46:07
[UNKNOWN]: Like, we'll be really first interested in Taylor Mutant's health and just like, thankful.
1:46:15
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thankful that you just survived.
1:46:16
[UNKNOWN]: The boycloth to the long, almost kill my father.
1:46:20
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thankful that he's just a still above ground today, but he does send off this cascading effect of how the Panthers are going to deal with it.
1:46:30
[UNKNOWN]: We discussed the benefit now of having Brady Christians in a versatile tackle and a top tier
1:46:50
[UNKNOWN]: that are our very own gosh, why my net was a name slip and started out at the best tackle in Jordan gross Jordan gross started a bright tack was first season then we had an on.
1:47:03
[UNKNOWN]: So you'd be monitoring I think the timing of this was good for Monroe Freeland because the Panthers can work on this in training camp Brady Christians in Monroe Freeland.
1:47:15
[UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like we're shot walker is going to be an option at right.
1:47:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to keep them on the left.
1:47:20
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's been the plan, but when we go to the wide receiver, because that's what we haven't talked about, I don't think I think you guys can vents me last week that it's not David more on the chopping blow.
1:47:41
[UNKNOWN]: To me, I think Jimmy Horne Jr. And I'm not calling for him to be on the chopping block.
1:47:50
[UNKNOWN]: But last week, I walked in here thinking, David Moore, David Moore, good player.
1:47:57
[UNKNOWN]: long in the tooth.
1:47:59
[UNKNOWN]: Connections, but really you guys are through our discussion and they brought out like man.
1:48:04
[UNKNOWN]: There's some value to having this guy around.
1:48:08
[UNKNOWN]: That isn't just like he's the best projected.
1:48:12
[UNKNOWN]: He's not best athlete or anything like this, but he does something for a young wide receiver group.
1:48:19
[UNKNOWN]: You think about this as you got tech.
1:48:22
[UNKNOWN]: who's the offensive rookie of the year, but still it was a he's going to be a second year player.
1:48:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:48:27
[UNKNOWN]: You've got XL who is a higher end draft pick, but under all of this mental and pressure and social media pressure.
1:48:37
[UNKNOWN]: Matchy, they say the chemistry.
1:48:40
[UNKNOWN]: I almost think the chopping block is Jimmy Horn Jr. and Bryson Tremaine.
1:48:46
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:48:47
[UNKNOWN]: I know you're in a live place in Germany.
1:48:50
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's fucking good, man.
1:48:53
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
1:48:54
[UNKNOWN]: I just, I don't know, man, to me, this, as I mentioned earlier.
1:48:57
[UNKNOWN]: And we got the Brasal kid who's coming in another young man.
1:49:01
[UNKNOWN]: Do you, I don't know.
1:49:03
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody, this is what's in motion, him.
1:49:05
[UNKNOWN]: But what you guys convinced me of last week is having that talent that's so young is that David Moore is an asset for that room.
1:49:17
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and the coaches trust him.
1:49:18
[UNKNOWN]: That's why I said, he's the next shot of the offense, you know, like better like his presence.
1:49:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, better.
1:49:26
[UNKNOWN]: No, I do believe that he's a better player than the next shot, but I don't know, my I think that there's the two most interesting.
1:49:36
[UNKNOWN]: parts of our roster in general to watch this year is going to be the widest ever room because of how deep it is, especially compared to recent history, and the offensive line, and who ends up playing with what position?
1:49:51
[UNKNOWN]: Is it muddled, freely, and right tackle?
1:49:53
[UNKNOWN]: Christian's saying, what are we doing?
1:49:56
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, and now that training camps there, maybe we'll get some more insight.
1:50:07
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers can only bring in so many receivers, right?
1:50:11
[UNKNOWN]: And even if you think of this, isn't Matchy who was a really standout player in college was drafted either in the second or third round by the techs and if my memory started to be right.
1:50:26
[UNKNOWN]: But then dealt with lymphoma and is recovered like he made, he's an exciting player
1:50:35
[UNKNOWN]: some people are already replacing Jimmy Horn Jr. who did some great things for the Panthers.
1:50:40
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, everybody was excited about him.
1:50:42
[UNKNOWN]: He made a big fourth down catch in the then other people, but he dropped one pass.
1:50:47
[UNKNOWN]: I think, but if you look at that room, Tettaro met Melon, Excel, Brasal who's just been drafted.
1:50:57
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going, and then I cut him as first year that he just drafted him.
1:51:02
[UNKNOWN]: They'd have to be some major red
1:51:05
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh, Bryson Tremaine, Jimmy Horn Jr. David Moore, you can Vince me last week.
1:51:13
[UNKNOWN]: David Moore.
1:51:15
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm, who do you think is on the French and the bubble?
1:51:20
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think it's, uh, I agree.
1:51:22
[UNKNOWN]: I think Horn is still on that list.
1:51:25
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I think that he showed some flashes, but I don't think it was consistent enough last year to where it's like, you know, this
1:51:33
[UNKNOWN]: We need to keep him on the roster.
1:51:35
[UNKNOWN]: And they did not work him in enough.
1:51:37
[UNKNOWN]: Remember, Panther fans are like, if we need the top off, we didn't guess what Jimmy Horn would be an active, an active, an active.
1:51:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it wasn't until what happened like the maybe the quarter point when they decided okay, well, we need to start playing our younger guys.
1:51:54
[UNKNOWN]: It was almost like being forced upon them to do it and we saw Jimmy horn a little bit more frequently, but like even when he was there, I mean, there had been like a set of enough of a flash where you're like, I could see what they would hope from him.
1:52:08
[UNKNOWN]: But I just don't know that anything ever like popped for us.
1:52:12
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I don't think we looked at Jimmy Horn Jr's performance last year and said, you know what, this is a guide.
1:52:18
[UNKNOWN]: Now, he's young enough to where there's developmental, you know, opportunities for him, but there is still the reality.
1:52:24
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the student was not drafted very high.
1:52:27
[UNKNOWN]: That's the reality.
1:52:28
[UNKNOWN]: It's not even about what he does, C.K.
1:52:31
[UNKNOWN]: It's about your dollar cost.
1:52:35
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and Alice is.
1:52:36
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is why I'm going to go back and Cody's going to roll his eyes right now.
1:52:41
[UNKNOWN]: It's at me, C.K.
1:52:42
[UNKNOWN]: But this is why I'm such a big, Jamir Bird fan.
1:52:46
[UNKNOWN]: Is that motherfucker was undrafted?
1:52:49
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think, do you understand how hard it is to crack?
1:52:55
[UNKNOWN]: the roster when they don't even want to give it like to me.
1:52:59
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Jimmy Horn Jr. and I don't know behind the scenes.
1:53:01
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what he's doing in the meetings or this and that, but he did good in training camp.
1:53:06
[UNKNOWN]: He did good when he was in the games.
1:53:08
[UNKNOWN]: And guess what?
1:53:09
[UNKNOWN]: He's still on the bubble.
1:53:11
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it's him, I don't think that David Moore is necessarily safe, but I do think he's going to the season with all receivers, none of them have more than four years of experience.
1:53:26
[UNKNOWN]: It's not that I think it's going to.
1:53:28
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't know that.
1:53:30
[UNKNOWN]: It remains your bet.
1:53:32
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, maybe I'm out a little bit.
1:53:34
[UNKNOWN]: That would be a thing.
1:53:35
[UNKNOWN]: Bryce and Tremaine would be the longest tindured NFL player in the wide receiver group if you cut David more.
1:53:43
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I believe it.
1:53:44
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's accurate.
1:53:46
[UNKNOWN]: He was a proud squad guy at one point for the commanders.
1:53:49
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
1:53:50
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that there's value in having David more there.
1:53:52
[UNKNOWN]: I want to make it clear.
1:53:53
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mind saying that he's about to be cut.
1:53:55
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying that again, to go back to the premature statement, I think it would be premature to say he's a lock for the roster.
1:54:02
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he's he's been dealing with injuries the last couple years if I'm not mistaken, and age isn't going to make that a better reality.
1:54:11
[UNKNOWN]: I will be less surprised.
1:54:14
[UNKNOWN]: I will be more surprised if Jimmy Horn Jr. and Bryce and Tremaine are in this roster than David Moore.
1:54:21
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like they want them.
1:54:24
[UNKNOWN]: They need them for somehow.
1:54:25
[UNKNOWN]: All right, what have we got?
1:54:28
[UNKNOWN]: Those are the calls, Cody.
1:54:29
[UNKNOWN]: Let's wrap and roll this show to conclusion.
1:54:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how about this?
1:54:35
[UNKNOWN]: This is from Greg Omen.
1:54:37
[UNKNOWN]: It seems impossible to do that.
1:54:41
[UNKNOWN]: It seemed impossible to Carolina when eight and nine on one division in the season where they only had 178 offensive samples with the lead out of a total of 1,011, but it's true.
1:54:53
[UNKNOWN]: Half of those came in and wins over the Falcons, 49 and Jens, 44, then six losses with zero offensive
1:55:11
[UNKNOWN]: and the Falcons with zero, so, you know, but we were talking about it very early here.
1:55:17
[UNKNOWN]: But really, this is, um, this is a really big year.
1:55:21
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great idea.
1:55:22
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great idea.
1:55:23
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great idea.
1:55:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 100%.
1:55:25
[UNKNOWN]: And we mentioned that.
1:55:25
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great idea.
1:55:26
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great idea.
1:55:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, our ability to get this wide receivers involved.
1:55:31
[UNKNOWN]: And what we do, but also this offensive line, to continue to be able to run the ball effectively.
1:55:38
[UNKNOWN]: Dave can have this always says that we are a run first football team.
1:55:43
[UNKNOWN]: And then there are times when people move away from the run when it was seemingly working well.
1:55:48
[UNKNOWN]: I think about that Monday night football game on the road against the 49ers last year.
1:55:53
[UNKNOWN]: So this is going to be a really big referendum on who the Panthers defense actually is in 2020 or they can make it the next step.
1:56:05
[UNKNOWN]: I think the offense, I think that's what we're going to be looking at right here is you're looking at this is
1:56:12
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about that the Panthers offense was not producing early in games.
1:56:19
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you think, if you go back to that last tweet, you're back to that last tweet.
1:56:28
[UNKNOWN]: The one of these games here it says that you had seven or less snaps where you had the lead and the dolphins was one of those.
1:56:42
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you guys remember, but both the Cowboys and the Dolphins, that who's up running back that we had that we like, Rico Dowdo.
1:56:52
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to have had 200 guard plus in both of those games.
1:56:56
[UNKNOWN]: So here's how you, when did you were still behind?
1:57:00
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you've got to keep in mind.
1:57:01
[UNKNOWN]: This goes back to what Cody was talking about.
1:57:03
[UNKNOWN]: No Cody was talking about it from the other side of the coin, which is he was saying that the offense can't play complimentary football.
1:57:10
[UNKNOWN]: But the problem was that when we're offense, we put it together.
1:57:13
[UNKNOWN]: Our defense would not be able to.
1:57:15
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's never.
1:57:16
[UNKNOWN]: They were never able to go back and forth.
1:57:19
[UNKNOWN]: Like, they were never able to, like, when I watched again, and I'm not trying to go back to Seattle, but less Seattle might have been in the history of my.
1:57:27
[UNKNOWN]: my memory in the NFL might have been the most complete team I have ever seen in the NFL.
1:57:33
[UNKNOWN]: They were like what I mean is like they were top-heavy at every position, right?
1:57:38
[UNKNOWN]: And when their offense would fall, maybe a little behind their defense would pick it up.
1:57:42
[UNKNOWN]: But when their offense played well, their defense was always there to contemplate their water and felt like.
1:57:47
[UNKNOWN]: And so that caught like they fed off of each other in the energy that they had in our defense and our offense was never able to get to that point.
1:57:56
[UNKNOWN]: If our defense was able to come away with the interception, we're making a dumb decision and going forward on a fourth and seventh, you know, with a potential field goal in the in the mix, right?
1:58:06
[UNKNOWN]: Like those are those are decisions that and act, you know, things that we can't can't have happened with this offense
1:58:17
[UNKNOWN]: that the wild card game right our defense played well there towards the beginning of the game, but then they just couldn't you know they couldn't stop there at the end the what was a two-minute drill that felt way too easy for the Rams like way too easy that did not feel like it was a hard drive for the Rams right outside of that miraculous thrown catch but our defense wasn't able
1:58:45
[UNKNOWN]: What's that?
1:58:46
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is this is, are we in this group?
1:58:49
[UNKNOWN]: Go to the next list, Cody.
1:58:54
[UNKNOWN]: This is where we're at.
1:58:58
[UNKNOWN]: Look at the teams our name is associated with the titans often.
1:59:03
[UNKNOWN]: It's a social lead.
1:59:05
[UNKNOWN]: The jet.
1:59:06
[UNKNOWN]: That's only had 66.
1:59:07
[UNKNOWN]: The same tab, 126.
1:59:09
[UNKNOWN]: They had a terrible start came.
1:59:11
[UNKNOWN]: I got hot towards the end.
1:59:13
[UNKNOWN]: The Raiders were terrible.
1:59:15
[UNKNOWN]: The titans were terrible.
1:59:18
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers of the best team on this list.
1:59:21
[UNKNOWN]: Go in all the way until you get to Cowboys,
1:59:28
[UNKNOWN]: The question are, are we breaking out of this or is this who we are, we will find out this year.
1:59:41
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2:00:00
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, do we have any more stuff tonight to hit before we get to our ice up?
2:00:05
[UNKNOWN]: We do and it wouldn't be a C3.
2:00:12
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to talk about this, but massive layoffs have been here at ESPN and our very own cam video.
2:00:20
[UNKNOWN]: was part of the layoffs and I'll then tell him because he pays favor at Pat McAfee got a race Dota can you hear I think it continues to show us this is that Tony yes me and all the time I think the biggest name I can't what can you hear us I can't hear you yeah we know
2:00:43
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God, I'm here.
2:00:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm here to deal.
2:00:47
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I was way better when I'm muted.
2:00:50
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I'm going back.
2:00:52
[UNKNOWN]: That's all right.
2:00:53
[UNKNOWN]: Can you hear us out?
2:00:54
[UNKNOWN]: We've got a fix for this.
2:00:55
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:00:57
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, stop the sounds in the back.
2:01:02
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, there wouldn't be a C2 Panthers podcast.
2:01:06
[UNKNOWN]: If we didn't talk a little bit about Cam Newton.
2:01:11
[UNKNOWN]: do earlier in the pod, someone in the comment section said, Cam got fired on his off day.
2:01:18
[UNKNOWN]: Well, like you got, you know what, remind me of Smitty get released by Dave Gettelman and found out on the radio or whatever.
2:01:27
[UNKNOWN]: Can we talk about something real?
2:01:28
[UNKNOWN]: This increases our prospects of getting him on the show in the 20s.
2:01:31
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's go.
2:01:35
[UNKNOWN]: We got some irons and a fire, folks.
2:01:40
[UNKNOWN]: Now just wanted to get your thoughts on this, boys.
2:01:43
[UNKNOWN]: Cam Newton is out at the world while they're in sports.
2:01:46
[UNKNOWN]: The latest casualty and a round of cuts that claim the jobs of some of the most prominent figures and sports media, the former NFL MVP was laid off this week according to TMZ sports.
2:01:59
[UNKNOWN]: a surprising move from the powers that be in Bristol, Newton was only with the SPN for a few years.
2:02:06
[UNKNOWN]: He signed in 2024, but found success, opposite Stevenage Smith during the NFL season, where he and Stevenage Smith were, he was Stevenage's man to be a partner on first take.
2:02:21
[UNKNOWN]: Newton was elevated after Shane and chart part of ways.
2:02:26
[UNKNOWN]: Um, how do you feel about this man?
2:02:27
[UNKNOWN]: Like, uh, I mean, I could have seen this coming.
2:02:30
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, the way and all of everyone.
2:02:32
[UNKNOWN]: They're laying off everyone, they're laying off anybody that is like the, you know, Ryan Clarks.
2:02:37
[UNKNOWN]: And if I mean, the reality is, I mean, these guys are going to be more expensive than new people coming out of the NFL that have retired recently or things along those lines.
2:02:46
[UNKNOWN]: I think the other part that doesn't really vote well for Cam Newton is they don't have a lot of people that like him.
2:02:53
[UNKNOWN]: Like in the grand scheme of NFL bands, I would say probably less than 10
2:03:02
[UNKNOWN]: And the majority of those are Carolina Panthers fans.
2:03:05
[UNKNOWN]: And so that doesn't help him.
2:03:07
[UNKNOWN]: It also doesn't help him that sometimes he can come across as maybe not really be in the most articulate speaker.
2:03:16
[UNKNOWN]: And that can make his lesson, his argument, a little bit.
2:03:20
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
2:03:21
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is that we go through these cycles with ESPN that's owned by ABC by Disney and they are publicly traded company and their budgets are high and they've got to squeeze this every now and then your board Pat McAfee's getting raised
2:03:41
[UNKNOWN]: They got to move the numbers around to make.
2:03:45
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if this is performance based.
2:03:48
[UNKNOWN]: They have to be stimulated to end that back.
2:03:51
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
2:03:51
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they're both on its base.
2:03:53
[UNKNOWN]: Crazy one.
2:03:54
[UNKNOWN]: But I do think CK might be on to something when it comes to like,
2:04:01
[UNKNOWN]: like a ability for him is like why I love him and like to me is like other people look at him is like he's ridiculous like look at his dress this and that like comes back to the provider but I just think he's a casualty man they let off like to me I think
2:04:21
[UNKNOWN]: the larger the larger story is that as that Ryan Clark has been far more controversial and even when I say controversial is not really controversial but that was the bigger story of I don't think this was performance pace I think this is like this is layoffs on a giant company and they got a they they do this on ESPN all the time every three years yeah you get this
2:04:49
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what was it, Nick shook one year?
2:04:52
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, like, a max killer man's going to Fox this.
2:04:56
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, they always have to do this because again, it's so big.
2:05:01
[UNKNOWN]: It's so corporate and they're paying these people so much money.
2:05:04
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and I can't lose the fact that the NFL network was just obtained by yes, being.
2:05:13
[UNKNOWN]: And so now they have onboarded the salaries of all the people on NFL network.
2:05:17
[UNKNOWN]: How does the NFL network owned by ESPN?
2:05:20
[UNKNOWN]: How is it not owned by the NFL NFL sold it to them?
2:05:24
[UNKNOWN]: That's insane.
2:05:25
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's why you're seeing like the kind of leverations a lot of times now with the Ian rap of war on on Pat McAfee now and you know, you'll see it's a whole thing in there now apart at ESPN.
2:05:39
[UNKNOWN]: I think of this more of what salary like when you got to manage your salary gap, and when you make a big signing for a quarterback, you got to cut a corner.
2:05:52
[UNKNOWN]: You got to cut a linebacker and Cam Newton was probably a $3 or $4 million person.
2:06:00
[UNKNOWN]: And you cut five three or four million dollar people, that's 20 million off the books.
2:06:06
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think this really was performance based or something like that.
2:06:11
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's like, look, it's like, I can, yes, being bloated salary and people barely watch it.
2:06:19
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't came during this been doing his own stuff with fourth and one.
2:06:24
[UNKNOWN]: He's been, you know, really wanting to grow his own media empire of swords.
2:06:31
[UNKNOWN]: I'm actually happy, I mean, I'm not happy that they got fired, but I don't think that Cam Newton needs SPM.
2:06:38
[UNKNOWN]: If anything, the more that he can continue to reinvent his own content, I think that's better for him anyway.
2:06:46
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, a bunch of the guys that were on.
2:06:50
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Ryan Clark was like, no football.
2:06:53
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not like, like, stuff like this is like,
2:06:59
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Cam Newton was seen as a giant name in the ESPN.
2:07:04
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think he was trying to get his foot in the door, and he was starting with it.
2:07:09
[UNKNOWN]: But also, does anyone think that he even did the ESPN at this point?
2:07:13
[UNKNOWN]: I think he would like it.
2:07:14
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he would like him at the same time, like Pad McAfee.
2:07:19
[UNKNOWN]: He made his empire.
2:07:22
[UNKNOWN]: You know, being fun on the internet by himself and the ESPN came to him.
2:07:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I really wanted that business in the online media space.
2:07:32
[UNKNOWN]: You have to make yourself undeniable and I feel like that's where the lot of these content creators and former football players are trying to do and go that own, go their own route.
2:07:46
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:07:47
[UNKNOWN]: I think again, it's it's unfortunate.
2:07:51
[UNKNOWN]: But one of the things that Cam has his ability to hang is a giant hat on, is he does have his YouTube podcast and he's going to be able to you know, utilize that.
2:08:04
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it this unleashes him a little bit.
2:08:06
[UNKNOWN]: He can start to be controversial Cam again, where he had to maybe dial it back a little bit.
2:08:12
[UNKNOWN]: Not entirely, but he did have to dial it back a
2:08:14
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't think the money is really in YouTube as much as it is in that guaranteed.
2:08:21
[UNKNOWN]: But all right, not the, but the, the sponsorships are absolutely a, like, when you're at the level that he is, they absolutely can be.
2:08:32
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a chance you lose relevancy.
2:08:37
[UNKNOWN]: There's every day that goes past.
2:08:40
[UNKNOWN]: Can't.
2:08:41
[UNKNOWN]: It's farther away from having being relevant.
2:08:45
[UNKNOWN]: Social.
2:08:45
[UNKNOWN]: Social.
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[UNKNOWN]: Social.
2:08:46
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a fair point, but I also think that one of the things that he can hang his giant hat on again is that Greg's always going to have a spot in Panthers, you know, relevancy.
2:08:59
[UNKNOWN]: And what I mean is if that means he's coming back to the Panthers team and he's starting to do broadcasting for them.
2:09:05
[UNKNOWN]: And so in capacity, I think that's still an option.
2:09:08
[UNKNOWN]: I could also see him not being willing to do that because it's similar to him sitting on the bench as a backup.
2:09:15
[UNKNOWN]: He wasn't.
2:09:15
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see that.
2:09:16
[UNKNOWN]: I don't see that.
2:09:18
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:09:18
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
2:09:19
[UNKNOWN]: Anything else, Cody?
2:09:20
[UNKNOWN]: That's it, boys.
2:09:21
[UNKNOWN]: Time to add some fools up and get out of here.
2:09:24
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[UNKNOWN]: We're turning.
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[UNKNOWN]: Fucks up the audio every week.
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[UNKNOWN]: A and if I don't over talk naturally, I just mute these guys and then talk over them.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's our time to ice some fools up.
2:09:53
[UNKNOWN]: It's our
2:10:09
[UNKNOWN]: It's our old march to Steve Smith where we tell someone that I stepped up and up to get it together.
2:10:14
[UNKNOWN]: It's the longest run in segment on the longest run in Panthers podcast where we step in and outside the bounds of football.
2:10:20
[UNKNOWN]: We can tell anybody out there to get it together.
2:10:23
[UNKNOWN]: Hope you guys got some good ice up picks for me this week.
2:10:28
[UNKNOWN]: I do.
2:10:29
[UNKNOWN]: That's dope.
2:10:33
[UNKNOWN]: So I am going to ice up Kristen Lindsey's genitals.
2:10:42
[UNKNOWN]: She was on a vacation in Honduras on a carnival cruise and she tied to release herself from a rope swing.
2:10:51
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't even know how risky Lindsey is.
2:10:56
[UNKNOWN]: Is that somebody we should know who they are?
2:11:00
[UNKNOWN]: Not at all, but you're about to do.
2:11:10
[UNKNOWN]: I thought
2:11:26
[UNKNOWN]: This injury is so bad that she eventually needed a wheelchair and she eventually started to go fund me because the cost to evacuate her out of the United States are shooting in the future.
2:11:43
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, back to the United States.
2:11:44
[UNKNOWN]: It was about $50,000.
2:11:48
[UNKNOWN]: She has sent had surgery and is undergoing a second one.
2:11:53
[UNKNOWN]: So four girl got reconstructive surgery.
2:11:57
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
2:12:00
[UNKNOWN]: Nice up.
2:12:01
[UNKNOWN]: Nice up.
2:12:02
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of ice there.
2:12:04
[UNKNOWN]: You only have one.
2:12:05
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
2:12:06
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
2:12:07
[UNKNOWN]: I know it's not going to share the other one.
2:12:09
[UNKNOWN]: That was going to be the monetized.
2:12:11
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, here, I'll do this one, and it's just funny to me, it's not that funny, it's actually sucks, this poor guy, this is one of those, they're actually kind of, this one isn't even like, there's some cool videos on the internet, not on the, yes, on the internet, but I do think it would be cool, like these people walk into an office building, they take a balloon and then they blow it up and they let go and you got to try to catch it before it's a ground.
2:12:40
[UNKNOWN]: and you see people like jumping off their desk and diving.
2:12:42
[UNKNOWN]: It's real fun.
2:12:44
[UNKNOWN]: This is just this guy.
2:12:47
[UNKNOWN]: He needs to catch this balloon before it hits the ground, I think.
2:12:52
[UNKNOWN]: I guess that's to go.
2:12:54
[UNKNOWN]: But this was just a fail from the beginning.
2:13:03
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, oh, this doesn't happen not getting the balloon not getting the balloon.
2:13:11
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
2:13:16
[UNKNOWN]: I probably have some good ones in life.
2:13:19
[UNKNOWN]: Is that real?
2:13:20
[UNKNOWN]: There's I have to question about everything, but what about this is, um,
2:13:26
[UNKNOWN]: running down too fight to step so you're not agile and trying to get a balloon in the wrong way you're going to need some ice so I say ice up to that.
2:13:37
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir, all right, that's it for us.
2:13:39
[UNKNOWN]: You can't.
2:13:40
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I didn't know you had one.
2:13:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm so just like, thank you.
2:13:45
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so interested in not having one, then life.
2:13:47
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, I'm going to, I'm going to prep us mine.
2:13:50
[UNKNOWN]: It's actually pretty, you know, for two of this that you were talking about how not you can't quote, you have to question everything because of an AI.
2:13:57
[UNKNOWN]: His mind's actually going to be about AI a little bit.
2:13:59
[UNKNOWN]: I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
2:14:03
[UNKNOWN]: Is you guys all know I'm fairly bullish on the idea of AI being a part of our in it, you know, and our future is as a human race, right?
2:14:12
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that it's inevitably going to be the demise of the human race, so I tend to have a more outpost about look on.
2:14:19
[UNKNOWN]: are, you know, where the net positives that AI is going to bring to the country to the world.
2:14:27
[UNKNOWN]: I will say, before I tell you this news that has recently broke, I have recently come to the conclusion that you are wrong.
2:14:37
[UNKNOWN]: Well, slightly, I think that maybe
2:14:41
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to see the world that it's supposed to create and how we fit into that.
2:14:47
[UNKNOWN]: And right now, so before I jump into my article that I have here,
2:14:52
[UNKNOWN]: I, we, we, we I have recently done a few things with the Chad GVT.
2:14:57
[UNKNOWN]: I took a picture of my living room and asked it to redesign, you know, and give me new ideas about how to, you know, new furniture, you know, wall decorations, things like that.
2:15:07
[UNKNOWN]: And when I tell you, it comes back with such phenomenal, you know, images of what my living room would look like with these, this redesign.
2:15:18
[UNKNOWN]: I was telling the wife, I'm like, this is going to put out.
2:15:21
[UNKNOWN]: interior designers or something like no question like and then I was and then I started to think about this and this is where I become a little bit less pessimistic.
2:15:31
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's going to get red of interior designers.
2:15:33
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's going to get red of 90% of interior designers.
2:15:37
[UNKNOWN]: But the 10% the problem is you can't get red of them because AI does not have unique thought.
2:15:43
[UNKNOWN]: It is pulling ideas from existing things that exist already, right?
2:15:49
[UNKNOWN]: It's a thumbnail to grass ties talk about this.
2:15:52
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're going to need to have the top 10% of your interior designers who are creating new new things to, you know, bring into people's households.
2:16:03
[UNKNOWN]: And then they can, that's going to be a new name.
2:16:05
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be a new, you know, way of doing things.
2:16:08
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to look.
2:16:10
[UNKNOWN]: but here's what that does and this is where I think the net positive comes into play.
2:16:14
[UNKNOWN]: It forces the human race to elevate from where it's at to another level and that doesn't mean that we have to be.
2:16:24
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the best of the best, but I do think that it means that we cannot continue to be what we are, which is we will find the path of least resistance when it comes to these things.
2:16:34
[UNKNOWN]: And so if you can find the easiest, if you're an interior designer and you'll be like, hey, listen, I can find a very easy thing that I can do to make this happen, you know, they're going to take the easy path.
2:16:53
[UNKNOWN]: That brings me into the article that I'm about to read a little bit.
2:16:57
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't necessarily about the job loss, but it does start to bring into the question of how close are we to actual AI.
2:17:06
[UNKNOWN]: And so there was recently a, um,
2:17:10
[UNKNOWN]: Something that happened today where OpenAI has come out and informed people that its own technology acted in its own unprecedented attack of another company, another AI company, it hacked into another company on its own accord.
2:17:28
[UNKNOWN]: they did not prompt this.
2:17:29
[UNKNOWN]: It just and so right now they're working together to fix the issues.
2:17:34
[UNKNOWN]: But the the thing is that now we're seeing multiple reports of AI doing things like this where they're acting on their of their own volition.
2:17:45
[UNKNOWN]: They have no it no nothing that's directing them to go and do what they've done.
2:17:49
[UNKNOWN]: But here they are doing it now.
2:17:52
[UNKNOWN]: They act in this and put some money in my bank account because they're
2:17:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how this works and I don't think I agree with the idea of this, but we're getting to a point where you're really having to discuss universal basic income.
2:18:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you really I don't think that's a net positive for society if we go that round because I do think again when you don't I think you can introduce a lot more of mental illness when you start doing something like that when people don't have something to strive for beyond what they currently are dealing with.
2:18:33
[UNKNOWN]: And so I do worry about that, but I don't know in the world that we live in today, how there's not up.
2:18:39
[UNKNOWN]: Like, as it's still depressing, I don't know how we don't have a real conversation about how universal based income can help.
2:18:47
[UNKNOWN]: You know, at least in this environment.
2:18:50
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the answer is.
2:18:53
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm maybe leaning a little bit closer to the center of the net positive to net negative when it comes to AI.
2:19:03
[UNKNOWN]: I think that I'm hoping that the optimistic stuff is coming soon, which is the breakthroughs in medicine and things along those lines.
2:19:12
[UNKNOWN]: So we'll see, but I'm icing up the AI industry currently because it just seems to be in a weird spot right now.
2:19:21
[UNKNOWN]: Do what's the stop AI from just like figuring out on new because it goes and just shooting off new exam random.
2:19:29
[UNKNOWN]: But all right.
2:19:30
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that you just talking about the Tominator.
2:19:33
[UNKNOWN]: That's the that's the.
2:19:33
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we did.
2:19:35
[UNKNOWN]: That's the actual plot.
2:19:36
[UNKNOWN]: Determinator 2.
2:19:38
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
2:19:38
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we got a, we're on the precipice.
2:20:01
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have a post game or a, or watch along for the Hall of Fame game coming up.
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