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- 0:00Speaker 1: James Tallarico, I think, is a dangerous candidate. I think
- 0:03Speaker 1: substantively he is radical and extreme, but he's very good
- 0:07Speaker 1: at seeming charming. He's very good at seeming innocuous. Personally,
- 0:11Speaker 1: I prefer my wolves in wolves' clothing, not in sheep's clothing.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Tallarico's record is fundamentally out of step with where the
- 0:17Speaker 1: people of Texas are. When James Tallarico says God is non-binary,
- 0:22Speaker 1: when he says there are six different genders, when he
- 0:25Speaker 1: says we should have a welcome mat on our southern borders,
- 0:27Speaker 1: Those are not the values of Texans.
- 0:30Speaker 2: You're listening to the 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Good Wednesday morning. Nice to have you with us for
- 0:36Speaker 3: the 47 Morning Update as we have a special update
- 0:38Speaker 3: for you live from Dallas. It is the midterm convention.
- 0:43Speaker 3: What can you expect? Donald Trump is going to speak.
- 0:46Speaker 3: We're being told both nights of the convention. So what
- 0:50Speaker 3: are they going to be focused on? Senator Cruz joins
- 0:52Speaker 3: me to give you a preview. He will also be
- 0:55Speaker 3: speaking on Thursday. 47 Morning Update, and it starts right now.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Story number one.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Senator, you're about to be on your way to Dallas
- 1:03Speaker 3: as well. I can tell you the energy here is real.
- 1:06Speaker 3: I was flying in. People were excited on the plane.
- 1:09Speaker 3: They were coming in for this midterm convention. I went over,
- 1:12Speaker 3: did some TV in the convention hall. You could feel
- 1:15Speaker 3: the buzz already. It does have the feel and the
- 1:18Speaker 3: look of a presidential election year convention. You and I
- 1:22Speaker 3: have been to countless conventions. This is, I think, going
- 1:25Speaker 3: to be virtually no different if you're in the room.
- 1:28Speaker 3: But the important part is the president has to make
- 1:32Speaker 3: the case, and so do the other speakers. You're speaking
- 1:35Speaker 3: on Thursday, for example, that this election is a compare
- 1:38Speaker 3: and contrast of the Democratic Socialists of America, what the
- 1:42Speaker 3: Democratic Party has become, higher taxes, taking away your right
- 1:47Speaker 3: to do what you want to do, and freedom in
- 1:50Speaker 3: private sector and business and oil and gas. And what
- 1:53Speaker 3: the Democrats want to do, which is a 180 from that,
- 1:56Speaker 3: this case, though, Senator, has to be sold, I think,
- 1:59Speaker 3: very well to the American people for it to be effective.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right. And I hope
- 2:05Speaker 1: the president does a very, very focused speech laying out
- 2:09Speaker 1: the consequences of each potential outcome of this election, focusing
- 2:14Speaker 1: on the policy victories that we've had together and also
- 2:17Speaker 1: focused on the threat from the Democrats, because the threat
- 2:20Speaker 1: is real. It is extreme. That's certainly what my remarks
- 2:24Speaker 1: are going to focus on, and as you said, I'm
- 2:27Speaker 1: addressing the convention Thursday right about 5 o'clock Texas time,
- 2:30Speaker 1: about 6 o'clock East Coast time, and I'm going to
- 2:33Speaker 1: focus on the fundamental choice that is before Americans. I
- 2:37Speaker 1: will say there's one aspect in which this is different
- 2:41Speaker 1: from a typical convention every four years, which is conventions
- 2:46Speaker 1: usually move public opinion, and they move it significantly because
- 2:49Speaker 1: the networks all devote prime time, several hours to the
- 2:53Speaker 1: convention for typically several nights during each convention. And that
- 2:58Speaker 1: has an effect. That's a lot of coverage. It is
- 3:01Speaker 1: not clear how much coverage this midterm convention is going
- 3:06Speaker 1: to get. I'm certain Fox News is going to cover it.
- 3:08Speaker 1: I'm certain Newsmax is going to cover it. But I
- 3:11Speaker 1: think there's a very good chance that CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS,
- 3:16Speaker 1: give it really scant coverage that, that, that, uh, I
- 3:19Speaker 1: hope they don't, uh, and I don't want to be
- 3:21Speaker 1: too cynical. Uh, but I, I think they don't want
- 3:26Speaker 1: the voters to vote for Republicans. They don't want a
- 3:28Speaker 1: Republican Senate. They don't want a Republican house. They want
- 3:31Speaker 1: Donald Trump to have a loss. And I think that,
- 3:35Speaker 1: that by denying the airwaves, that will be one way
- 3:37Speaker 1: that they can advance it. I hope I'm wrong. Uh,
- 3:39Speaker 1: and we, we will find out, uh, We will find
- 3:42Speaker 1: out today and tomorrow. But I will say, if that's
- 3:45Speaker 1: the case, then it is particularly incumbent on all of
- 3:49Speaker 1: us to share the content, particularly the good and worthwhile
- 3:52Speaker 1: content from the conference. Because if it's, look, even if
- 3:55Speaker 1: it's just on Fox and Newsmax, one of the big
- 3:59Speaker 1: things we need to do is just turn out Republicans.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Right now, Republicans, I think, are in many respects disunited
- 4:06Speaker 1: and Conservatives are unhappy about some things. Moderates are unhappy
- 4:11Speaker 1: about other things. And there's time for squabbling. There's time
- 4:14Speaker 1: for primaries. There's time for disagreements. This is not that time.
- 4:18Speaker 1: We are in the crunch, and we need everyone to
- 4:22Speaker 1: be united. So just talking to Republicans and to right-leading
- 4:25Speaker 1: independents is valuable. But it's also valuable if the networks
- 4:29Speaker 1: do effectively a boycott on communication. Then I think using
- 4:34Speaker 1: social media programs sharing key excerpts with other folks is
- 4:39Speaker 1: going to be really important.
- 4:41Speaker 3: It is, and you mentioned the networks. It's very funny
- 4:43Speaker 3: because I was in there today doing TV, and I
- 4:46Speaker 3: noticed that from a convention standpoint, the Fox News stage
- 4:51Speaker 3: and Newsmax seemed very large. You did see that CNN
- 4:55Speaker 3: had a decent-sized suite, that they looked like they had
- 4:57Speaker 3: all their equipment, but the networks seemed smaller than usual,
- 5:01Speaker 3: to me at least. And I think that goes back
- 5:04Speaker 3: to what you're saying. The last thing they want to
- 5:06Speaker 3: do is give the president prime time, air time, to
- 5:10Speaker 3: go out there and remind the American people what he's done.
- 5:13Speaker 3: And let's go through that list. If I'm looking at
- 5:17Speaker 3: a come out of this midterm convention with an A +,
- 5:21Speaker 3: it's got to go back to the economy, stupid, right?
- 5:24Speaker 3: It's the famous line in politics, but it's so very true.
- 5:28Speaker 3: And that is, I think the president has to remind
- 5:30Speaker 3: people of what your taxes would look like if Democrats
- 5:33Speaker 3: had their way. They vote against the largest tax cut
- 5:36Speaker 3: in my lifetime. They vote against the big, beautiful bill.
- 5:40Speaker 3: They vote against no tax on tip, no tax on overtime.
- 5:43Speaker 3: That is what this has got to get down to is, hey,
- 5:46Speaker 3: we understand, by the way, the pain at the pump
- 5:49Speaker 3: right now. We are going to get that down. We
- 5:51Speaker 3: understand that that's a frustration. However, let us remind you
- 5:55Speaker 3: what you do have because of the Trump administration and
- 5:58Speaker 3: because of conservatives in Congress just like you, Senator. That,
- 6:02Speaker 3: to me, is the ballgame.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Well, and by the way, I was with your old
- 6:06Speaker 1: pals at CNN Tuesday night and on Caitlin Collins' show,
- 6:11Speaker 1: and number one, I asked Caitlin, are you going to
- 6:13Speaker 1: Dallas for the convention? She said no, and that kind
- 6:16Speaker 1: of underscores the point I was saying that I think
- 6:18Speaker 1: we're going to see everything other than Fox and Newsmax
- 6:21Speaker 1: giving very limited coverage to what happens in Dallas. But
- 6:26Speaker 1: I will say also that she was pressing me like
- 6:28Speaker 1: crazy on gas prices. She clearly had talking points that
- 6:31Speaker 1: gas prices are too high, and I pointed out, Well, look,
- 6:35Speaker 1: they are higher this year than last year. But in
- 6:37Speaker 1: both instances, they're much, much lower than they were under
- 6:40Speaker 1: Joe Biden. You know, now they're just a little over
- 6:42Speaker 1: four bucks a gallon. A year ago, they were three
- 6:44Speaker 1: bucks a gallon. Under Biden, they were over five bucks
- 6:47Speaker 1: a gallon. In California, they were six and seven dollars
- 6:49Speaker 1: a gallon. And boy, she didn't want to hear that.
- 6:52Speaker 1: She's like, no, no, no, no. But they're higher than
- 6:54Speaker 1: they were last year under Trump. I'm like, in both instances,
- 6:56Speaker 1: they're much lower than they are under Democrats. If you
- 6:59Speaker 1: don't like high gas prices, don't vote for the Democrats
- 7:02Speaker 1: because they want high gas prices and boy that was
- 7:05Speaker 1: not a message cnn wanted to carry yeah.
- 7:08Speaker 3: And that's part of i think why the speeches are
- 7:11Speaker 3: going to be important especially for turning out conservative voters
- 7:15Speaker 3: that that the biggest thing that i worry about and
- 7:17Speaker 3: and if you go back take take i i jokingly
- 7:20Speaker 3: say take politics out of it just look at history
- 7:23Speaker 3: usually the party that's not in power in the white
- 7:26Speaker 3: house in the midterms has usually a big midterm because
- 7:30Speaker 3: there's checks and balances or founding fathers. But that way
- 7:32Speaker 3: we see these ebbs and flows. Rarely do you see Republicans,
- 7:37Speaker 3: if they're in office, get ad seats. You look at
- 7:41Speaker 3: after 9-11, that did happen with George Bush in my lifetime,
- 7:44Speaker 3: for example. But traditionally that's not wrong. So you look
- 7:47Speaker 3: at this, and I say to conservatives, and I think
- 7:51Speaker 3: that's the message that Trump has to hit home, is
- 7:54Speaker 3: if you want the America First agenda, and you voted
- 7:58Speaker 3: for it. Well, you voted for it for four years
- 8:00Speaker 3: with me. You've got one more vote to get those
- 8:03Speaker 3: full four years. You're going to get two years, but
- 8:06Speaker 3: we're almost at the end of that, and we're going
- 8:08Speaker 3: to need you to give us another two years of
- 8:10Speaker 3: that agenda. You can't stay home, because if you do,
- 8:14Speaker 3: the Democrats will stop everything you voted for two years ago.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Well, and... The Trump legislative agenda, we've had big victories economically,
- 8:24Speaker 1: the biggest tax cut in history, as you mentioned, no
- 8:27Speaker 1: tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax
- 8:29Speaker 1: on overtime. We also, on law and order, law and
- 8:35Speaker 1: order I think should be a big theme of the convention,
- 8:39Speaker 1: that securing the border, illegal border crossings dropping 20%, the
- 8:43Speaker 1: murder rate dropping 99%, rather, illegal border crossings dropping 99%,
- 8:47Speaker 1: the murder rate dropping 20%. The number of deaths from
- 8:53Speaker 1: drug overdoses, dropping 20%. That's a real record of success
- 8:59Speaker 1: that I hope we lay out in detail because there
- 9:01Speaker 1: are literally thousands of Americans who are alive today because
- 9:06Speaker 1: we secured the border and we've been deporting gangbangers and criminals,
- 9:10Speaker 1: and that has made our families safer. That's made our
- 9:13Speaker 1: kids safer. That record of success we should talk about,
- 9:16Speaker 1: I hope that we do, But I think every bit
- 9:19Speaker 1: as important is laying out the peril. Look, it is
- 9:26Speaker 1: no longer just sort of an ordinary, plain-Jane Democrat agenda.
- 9:30Speaker 1: If you look at the Marxist and the Islamist who
- 9:35Speaker 1: are winning from Mondami to the DSA candidates in Manhattan,
- 9:40Speaker 1: three of them that beat established Democrats, to Abdul Al-Sayed
- 9:44Speaker 1: in Michigan, to Colorado, to Florida, to Oklahoma. That is
- 9:51Speaker 1: where the energy and passion of the Democrat Party is.
- 9:55Speaker 1: And not every Democrat in the House and Senate is
- 9:58Speaker 1: a communist or an Islamist, but every one of them
- 10:01Speaker 1: is terrified of the communist and Islamist because every one
- 10:05Speaker 1: of them is looking over their left shoulder, afraid of
- 10:08Speaker 1: being primaried. And so that threat, you know, communism is
- 10:12Speaker 1: not something abstract or theoretical. It is something very real.
- 10:15Speaker 1: And I hope that this convention makes that clear. I'm
- 10:18Speaker 1: certainly going to make it clear on Thursday.
- 10:21Speaker 3: So let's talk about, you've been on this book tour,
- 10:25Speaker 3: and if you haven't grabbed the book, it's a number
- 10:27Speaker 3: one New York Times bestseller. You're the author of it.
- 10:30Speaker 3: It's a biography you did on Clarence Thomas. It is
- 10:32Speaker 3: an incredible book. You can grab it now wherever you
- 10:35Speaker 3: get your books. But you've done a lot of media,
- 10:38Speaker 3: and I would say adversarial media. One of the things
- 10:41Speaker 3: that I have noticed, and when I go on CNN
- 10:44Speaker 3: and some of the liberal shows, I was on Piers
- 10:46Speaker 3: Morgan yesterday. It was one of those classic fights with
- 10:48Speaker 3: a bunch of liberals. I've noticed their messaging right now
- 10:52Speaker 3: is not exactly the strongest. They're not yelling orange man bad.
- 10:57Speaker 3: What they are saying is, well, we're not communist, socialist,
- 11:02Speaker 3: Marxist per se. We're more in the middle. They're spending
- 11:06Speaker 3: a lot of time having to, I guess, defend what
- 11:10Speaker 3: they are now. And a lot of people, I think,
- 11:12Speaker 3: are having a hard time figuring out what that is
- 11:14Speaker 3: because One moment you've got guys that are out there
- 11:17Speaker 3: saying that they think capitalism is a disease and we
- 11:19Speaker 3: should destroy it, and the next one's like, oh, I
- 11:21Speaker 3: didn't really mean that, referring to, you know, Mondani and
- 11:24Speaker 3: then some of these other guys that are out there.
- 11:27Speaker 3: It is making me laugh that their policy right now
- 11:32Speaker 3: is let's try not to be as extreme as we
- 11:34Speaker 3: really are and dial it down. That's a weird strategy
- 11:37Speaker 3: going into a midterm as well.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Well, that's right. And part of it is because their
- 11:43Speaker 1: nominees are really radical. They're radical and scary. And so
- 11:48Speaker 1: the Democrat spin masters are trying to do everything they
- 11:50Speaker 1: can to cover up from their record. And the media
- 11:52Speaker 1: is too. I want you to listen to this exchange
- 11:55Speaker 1: I had Tuesday night with Caitlin Collins talking about James Tallarico.
- 11:59Speaker 1: And Tallarico tries very hard to come across as– a
- 12:05Speaker 1: nice guy, is affable, is not scary, and yet his record,
- 12:10Speaker 1: I got to say, more and more keeps breaking about
- 12:12Speaker 1: how extreme his record is. We covered in the podcast
- 12:16Speaker 1: last week how Tallarico was caught several years ago on
- 12:21Speaker 1: a Zoom call with Sierra Club left-wing activists saying that
- 12:26Speaker 1: he wanted to dismantle communism, or sorry, dismantle capitalism, rather. And,
- 12:32Speaker 1: you know, That's problematic for the message that he's a moderate. Well,
- 12:35Speaker 1: listen to this back and forth with Caitlin Collins, because, boy,
- 12:37Speaker 1: she was in damage control, basically trying to help Tallarica
- 12:41Speaker 1: as much as she could. Who will Republicans have to
- 12:45Speaker 1: blame if Republicans lose Texas? Oh, listen, we have a
- 12:49Speaker 1: real race in Texas, but, you know, we have a
- 12:51Speaker 1: real race in most states across the country. It's a midterms.
- 12:54Speaker 3: But Texas is Texas.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I am fully aware of this. But you know what? Texas,
- 12:59Speaker 1: like other states, we've got a bunch of liberals in Texas. Now,
- 13:01Speaker 1: we have more conservatives and more common sense Texans than
- 13:04Speaker 1: we have liberals. But the liberals are really ticked off
- 13:07Speaker 1: and they're energized. And I'll tell you, if you look
- 13:09Speaker 1: at this race, James Tallarico, I think, is a dangerous candidate.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I think substantively he is radical and extreme, but he's
- 13:17Speaker 1: very good at seeming charming. He's very good at seeming innocuous. Personally,
- 13:21Speaker 1: I prefer my wolves in wolves' clothing, not in sheep's clothing.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Here's why I think Ken Paxton's going to win. Because
- 13:28Speaker 1: Tallarico's record is fundamentally out of step with where the
- 13:31Speaker 1: people of Texas are. When James Tallarico says God is non-binary,
- 13:36Speaker 1: when he says there are six different genders, when he
- 13:39Speaker 1: says we should have a welcome mat on our southern border,
- 13:42Speaker 1: those are not the values of Texans. When he says
- 13:44Speaker 1: we want to end oil and gas.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Does Ken Paxton have the value of Texans?
- 13:48Speaker 1: Ken Paxton is fighting a lot of trouble on his
- 13:50Speaker 1: own camp by his own age who worked for him
- 13:53Speaker 1: and turned him into the FBI basically. He's fighting for
- 13:55Speaker 1: policies that most Texans agree with. Low taxes, low regulations,
- 14:00Speaker 1: lots of jobs, securing the border, supporting law enforcement. Those
- 14:03Speaker 1: are the policies that Texans agree with. And at the
- 14:06Speaker 1: end of the day, this race is not about whether
- 14:09Speaker 1: you personally like one candidate or the other. This race
- 14:12Speaker 1: is about, in Texas, what policies are good for 32
- 14:16Speaker 1: million Texans. And the policies of James Tallarico, look, Comrade
- 14:21Speaker 1: Mondami knows exactly who Tallarico is when he says he
- 14:24Speaker 1: wants to dismantle capitalism. So does Abdul Al-Sayed. He is
- 14:29Speaker 1: a fellow traveler with the DSA radicals in the Democrat Party. Look,
- 14:34Speaker 1: James Tallarico is someone who ran a vegan campaign because
- 14:38Speaker 1: he believes meat is destroying the world. Now, That would
- 14:42Speaker 1: be a great campaign in Berkeley, California, but it's not Texas.
- 14:45Speaker 1: He's not a democratic socialist. Okay, you say that. Tell
- 14:48Speaker 1: me then, what does dismantling capitalism mean? That's his own words.
- 14:54Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
- 14:55Speaker 1: CNN uncovered those words, actually.
- 14:57Speaker 3: Okay, but now.
- 14:58Speaker 1: You're trying to help him back away from him because
- 15:00Speaker 1: he's recognizing a general election. No, I just cited what
- 15:02Speaker 1: his campaigner said about it.
- 15:03Speaker 3: Of course, he's.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Running away from his record. That doesn't mean that's not
- 15:06Speaker 1: what he believes.
- 15:07Speaker 3: I mean, Senator, I love that back and forth there
- 15:10Speaker 3: because it goes back to that core, dismantling capitalism. It's
- 15:14Speaker 3: so funny. They're like, yeah, CNN found the words, and
- 15:16Speaker 3: you're absolutely right. They're trying to help those words go
- 15:18Speaker 3: away at the same time.
- 15:20Speaker 1: You know, it really is funny, CNN saying, no, no, no, no,
- 15:22Speaker 1: he's not a socialist. He's not a socialist. I just
- 15:24Speaker 1: asked the question, well, what does it mean to dismantle capitalism?
- 15:28Speaker 1: And his campaign put out a statement, oh, never mind
- 15:31Speaker 1: the words he said, and understand, These words, he was
- 15:34Speaker 1: on a Zoom call with all these left-wing radicals. They're
- 15:37Speaker 1: activists from the Sierra Club. This was just six years ago,
- 15:39Speaker 1: and he was being very honest what he believes. And
- 15:42Speaker 1: CNN is trying to whitewash that. But I'll tell you,
- 15:45Speaker 1: new news is broken about Tallarico's extreme record. So, for example,
- 15:51Speaker 1: I talked about law and order, and I think law
- 15:52Speaker 1: and order should be a major issue on Election Day.
- 15:55Speaker 1: I think Republicans are not putting enough emphasis on it.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Tallarico's record on law and order is really frightening. So
- 16:02Speaker 1: here's a quote he said in 2020. I'm really excited
- 16:06Speaker 1: about the formation of a bipartisan criminal justice reform caucus
- 16:09Speaker 1: in the Texas House with prominent Democrats and prominent Republicans
- 16:12Speaker 1: who understand that we have to move away from a
- 16:15Speaker 1: tough-on-crime approach to a smart-on-crime approach that I think filters
- 16:19Speaker 1: down to our schools. Okay, that could be okay. Let's
- 16:24Speaker 1: see what else he's saying. Quote, we are starting in
- 16:28Speaker 1: elementary school. where we really pursue restorative practices that are
- 16:32Speaker 1: going to rehabilitate our students who are suffering from trauma,
- 16:36Speaker 1: our students who are feeling unsafe in school, and our
- 16:38Speaker 1: students who harm a classroom community. Fox News continues saying,
- 16:44Speaker 1: Tallarico was referring to, quote, restorative justice, a view that
- 16:47Speaker 1: links misbehavior to past personal and emotional experiences. In the
- 16:52Speaker 1: word of Texas Appleseed, a group that promotes social, economic,
- 16:55Speaker 1: and racial justice, Restorative justice in education emphasizes the relational
- 17:01Speaker 1: cost of conflict in a way to deter future bad behavior.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Restorative justice, when applied to a school setting, focuses on
- 17:09Speaker 1: how student behavior has harmed others and how to make amends.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Schools use it to build community and strengthen student-school connections,
- 17:16Speaker 1: the group wrote in a definition submitted to lawmakers. The
- 17:20Speaker 1: approach is often mentioned as an alternative to quote, zero-tolerance
- 17:25Speaker 1: policies that focus on punishments that deter, discourage conduct. To Tallarico,
- 17:31Speaker 1: its adoption could de-emphasize other forms of punishments. Quote, what
- 17:36Speaker 1: that means is really allowing students to repair the harms
- 17:39Speaker 1: that they've caused in a classroom community. It's a lot
- 17:42Speaker 1: more rigorous and a lot more effective than just expelling
- 17:44Speaker 1: a student or suspending a student or removing them from
- 17:46Speaker 1: the classroom community. Now, mind you, what he's saying is
- 17:49Speaker 1: that means violent criminals will stay in the classroom with
- 17:53Speaker 1: your kids, that they're not going to remove them, they're
- 17:55Speaker 1: not going to be suspended no matter how much violence
- 17:57Speaker 1: they're engaging in, no matter how many drugs they're dealing.
- 18:00Speaker 1: And in the Texas legislature in 2021, Tallarico introduced a bill,
- 18:06Speaker 1: it was HB 62, which would have moved schools away
- 18:10Speaker 1: from in-school suspension, so not even suspension out of school,
- 18:13Speaker 1: in-school suspension, out-of-school suspension and removing kids to alternative educational programs. Now,
- 18:19Speaker 1: The bill, which was this left-wing bill, stalled in committee,
- 18:22Speaker 1: never became law. But in the wake of the Uvalde
- 18:27Speaker 1: school shooting, here's what Tallarico said. Quote, if we took
- 18:38Speaker 1: just half of what we spent on wars, prisons, and policing,
- 18:43Speaker 1: and spent it on education, healthcare, and jobs, we could
- 18:47Speaker 1: make prisons obsolete. This is what he's saying in a
- 18:50Speaker 1: 2022 speech for incarcerated students. A little bit later in
- 18:55Speaker 1: the speech, Tallarico calls the idea of prisons themselves a
- 18:59Speaker 1: kind of violence. Here's what he says, quote, my experience
- 19:04Speaker 1: as a teacher, a legislator, and a Christian tells me
- 19:09Speaker 1: that birds don't belong in cages, children don't belong in cages,
- 19:15Speaker 1: people don't belong in cages. Poverty is violence. Pollution is violence.
- 19:24Speaker 1: And yes, prison is violence. Quote, I'm not asking you
- 19:31Speaker 1: to join the system. I'm asking you to change the system.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Dismantle this system of violence. Now understand, he says prison
- 19:43Speaker 1: is violence. And what he called for explicitly is dismantling
- 19:48Speaker 1: this system of violence. In other words, dismantling prisons. This
- 19:52Speaker 1: is the abolish the police nonsense. And listen, there's a
- 19:56Speaker 1: difference from Tallarico versus my last two opponents, Beto O'Rourke
- 20:01Speaker 1: and Colin Allred. Both Beto and Colin are older than Tallarico.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Tallarico is younger, and he is of the woke generation. generation,
- 20:10Speaker 1: the generation that came up with these idiocies like abolish
- 20:13Speaker 1: the police, that came up with Soros DAs that let
- 20:16Speaker 1: murderers go. And here he is on the record saying
- 20:20Speaker 1: prison is violence. And by the way, he's saying nobody
- 20:23Speaker 1: belongs in prison. He's not just saying nonviolent drug offenses. Look,
- 20:27Speaker 1: I would not lock kids up for a nonviolent drug offense,
- 20:32Speaker 1: particularly a small drug offense. But there's a difference between
- 20:35Speaker 1: that and violence. And I've always drawn a clear line,
- 20:38Speaker 1: having spent a lot of years in law enforcement. There
- 20:40Speaker 1: are people who are murderers. There are people who are
- 20:43Speaker 1: mass murderers. There are people who are rapists. There are
- 20:45Speaker 1: people who commit horrific acts of sexual abuse and physical
- 20:48Speaker 1: violence against kids. And you know what? They belong in
- 20:52Speaker 1: a damn cage. They belong in prison. And Tallarico is
- 20:57Speaker 1: on record saying, no, no, no, don't put them in prison.
- 20:59Speaker 1: We need to dismantle. And he likes that word dismantle. Remember,
- 21:02Speaker 1: dismantle is also what he wants to do to capitalism.
- 21:04Speaker 1: He wants to dismantle prisons. He wants to dismantle capitalism.
- 21:08Speaker 1: That is what communists do. And Tallarico pretends he's not.
- 21:13Speaker 1: But if you look at what he's calling for, it's
- 21:15Speaker 1: the exact same thing the Marxists are calling for.
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