Latest / Drive with John Perlman / How is Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) tracking in the 2026 Municipal Elections?
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- 0:22Speaker 1: 702 Drive, let's get the perspective now of the economic freedom,
- 0:29Speaker 1: I beg your pardon, the Inkata Freedom Party.
- 0:33Speaker 2: I almost got mixed up.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I'm joined by the national spokesperson of the IFP, Kuleko Llengwa.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Thank you so much. for giving us your time. We
- 0:41Speaker 2: appreciate it.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Thanks to you, John, and good afternoon to you and
- 0:44Speaker 3: the listeners.
- 0:46Speaker 2: What do you make of your numbers so far?
- 0:48Speaker 1: Obviously, you go in with ambition and hope and realistic
- 0:53Speaker 1: expectation all mixed up together.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Are you where you expect to be so far?
- 0:57Speaker 3: Well, we did expect a mixed bag of results, given
- 1:01Speaker 3: that we were having to also push back on the
- 1:03Speaker 3: frontiers of 2024. And we had began consolidating even through by-elections.
- 1:10Speaker 3: And I think that has helped us because in areas
- 1:14Speaker 3: where the MK had come out very strong in 2024,
- 1:19Speaker 3: we have been able to arrest the decline. To make
- 1:23Speaker 3: an example, Ekumsinga municipality in the middle of KwaZulu-Natal was
- 1:29Speaker 3: deeply problematic in 2024. And so it has held quite
- 1:33Speaker 3: strongly in 2026. And we are also registering gains if
- 1:39Speaker 3: you look at the takeover of Umzumba municipality on the
- 1:42Speaker 3: south coast of KwaZulu-Natal and the takeover of Edumbe municipality,
- 1:48Speaker 3: which is Port Petersburg, in the northern KwaZulu-Natal. But above
- 1:52Speaker 3: and beyond that, in the city of Johannesburg, we went
- 1:55Speaker 3: to these elections with two awards. We are currently standing
- 1:58Speaker 3: at five. And so that is also consolidating on historically
- 2:03Speaker 3: areas that we had been present in and had been
- 2:06Speaker 3: taken away and so we are succeeding in the rebuilding project. So,
- 2:10Speaker 3: by and large, it's holding. Our only area of concern, obviously,
- 2:14Speaker 3: is our performance in Umklatuze. That has not been a
- 2:18Speaker 3: good performance, and we will be going back to look
- 2:22Speaker 3: at numbers and why our performance slumped as it did.
- 2:26Speaker 2: So, Mkhla Tuzi, would that be Eskaweni? Mkhla Tuzi. Mkhla
- 2:31Speaker 2: Tuba or not so far?
- 2:32Speaker 3: No, Mkhla Tuba is another.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Oh, Mkhanya Kude.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Mkhanya Kude. Mkhla Tuba is the neighboring.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Okay. Just using... Geography is good. To brush up on... No,
- 2:42Speaker 2: it's very good geography.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Let's step away from the numbers and the IFP's performance
- 2:50Speaker 1: as measured in that way. Our political situation is completely
- 2:55Speaker 1: different to what it was in the days when Everything
- 3:00Speaker 1: was shaped by the prominence, presence, and predominance of the ANC.
- 3:07Speaker 2: What is the IFP's role.
- 3:09Speaker 1: In this absolutely fast-moving and very fluid South African politics?
- 3:14Speaker 1: We know you're part of the National Governing Coalition. You
- 3:17Speaker 1: perform an equivalent role in KZN. But with a local
- 3:21Speaker 1: government election, is it different? just about trying to get
- 3:25Speaker 1: positions in municipalities or play a role in coalitions or
- 3:29Speaker 1: is there something more happening?
- 3:31Speaker 2: A realignment of a different kind?
- 3:33Speaker 3: Well for us it may be different maybe to other
- 3:35Speaker 3: parts because we spent a long time governing in municipalities
- 3:39Speaker 3: and we're out of provincial government and national government and
- 3:41Speaker 3: so we've got a keen understanding about the importance of
- 3:45Speaker 3: local government because that's where the tie hits the tower.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Secondly of course is that whatever national program or provincial
- 3:51Speaker 3: program that you have has to find expression in locality.
- 3:55Speaker 3: My political science lecture is to say all politics is local.
- 3:59Speaker 3: So if there's dysfunction, whatever national or province brings will
- 4:03Speaker 3: not gain traction on the ground. So for us, it's
- 4:06Speaker 3: an important connection and linkage and wherein you need the
- 4:10Speaker 3: necessary knowledge, skills, expertise and experience to be able to
- 4:15Speaker 3: drive all programs. It's not some. All programs require functionality
- 4:19Speaker 3: of local government. So For us, this is less about
- 4:23Speaker 3: the positions and more about ensuring that issues like maintenance, repairs,
- 4:29Speaker 3: the cleaning up of cities, towns, and areas of human settlement,
- 4:33Speaker 3: those basic things which are drivers of investment and so on.
- 4:38Speaker 3: I mean, just to make an example, in Etiwini, we
- 4:41Speaker 3: were opening a new line of Unilever for Vaseline, 100
- 4:47Speaker 3: million rands investment. And Unilever was saying to us, they've
- 4:50Speaker 3: had to spend 850,000 rands in one week on days
- 4:54Speaker 3: of which there was an electricity problem. Now you can
- 4:56Speaker 3: just imagine the ripple effect. It's one on cost, but
- 4:58Speaker 3: also what it does for employment.
- 5:01Speaker 2: And reputation.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Exactly. And so when you have functionality there, your national
- 5:05Speaker 3: ambitions of growth and so on find expression.
- 5:08Speaker 1: And looking ahead to the time we're going to spend
- 5:12Speaker 1: here at the Results Operations Centre and the equivalents in
- 5:15Speaker 1: provinces around the country, to the conversations around that are
- 5:21Speaker 1: certainly going to be front and center all over Gauteng,
- 5:24Speaker 1: very prominent. It's likely in Etigwini. It's not clear that
- 5:29Speaker 1: anyone's getting an outright majority. What can you tell us
- 5:32Speaker 1: about the IFP's parameters around coalitions? Have you got red
- 5:38Speaker 1: lines about who you're prepared to work with and not?
- 5:41Speaker 1: Have you got a very clear negotiating structure already in place? And,
- 5:45Speaker 1: of course, you have muscle memory from 2024, of course.
- 5:48Speaker 3: Well, we come in with experience in coalition politics, particularly
- 5:53Speaker 3: at local government. I know the narrative is about the
- 5:57Speaker 3: dysfunction of coalitions. If you look at the city of Johannesburg,
- 6:00Speaker 3: and it's justified because that revolving door of mayors was
- 6:03Speaker 3: completely unacceptable. But there's another extreme wherein coalitions held for
- 6:07Speaker 3: the full duration of five years. Umklatuza is one of them.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Zululand District, one of them. Alfred Duma is one of them,
- 6:15Speaker 3: where we were able to carry these municipalities. So one,
- 6:18Speaker 3: we're bringing experience to the table of negotiations, what needs
- 6:21Speaker 3: to be done. Secondly is the fact that obviously coalitions
- 6:25Speaker 3: our manifesto is going to be our North Star, and
- 6:28Speaker 3: we want to see what basic minimum program for development
- 6:32Speaker 3: and service delivery can be agreed upon by the parties.
- 6:36Speaker 3: What we can put now is that we're not prepared
- 6:38Speaker 3: to govern at all costs. It's not just about positions,
- 6:41Speaker 3: but it's about service delivery first. And so... If there's
- 6:44Speaker 3: no clear path forward for governance or governing, then we
- 6:49Speaker 3: will have to take up our seats in the opposition benches.
- 6:53Speaker 3: The NEC of the party is going to meet on Monday.
- 6:56Speaker 3: The delegation here at The Rock is led by the
- 6:58Speaker 3: Deputy Secretary General. We will complete our report on Sunday
- 7:02Speaker 3: and hand it over to NEC, which will do two things.
- 7:05Speaker 3: is put the team together for negotiations and secondly, begin deployments.
- 7:10Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 7:11Speaker 1: The perspective of the IFP as we move into day
- 7:14Speaker 1: one of counting.
- 7:15Speaker 2: There will be another day.
- 7:16Speaker 1: We thank Nkuleko Lengwa, national spokesperson for the IFP.