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The Kenny Report | 5 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the sky New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 2: The convicted sex offender who is in jail but is
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Speaker 2: still a member of Parliament and still collecting a taxpayer
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Speaker 2: funded salary. The Albanese government's secret agenda for new and
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Speaker 2: higher taxes, the carbon tax, housing taxes and more GST
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Speaker 2: are all on the table. Also Labour's broken election promise
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Speaker 2: on immigration as numbers continued to rise, and Albernizian friends.
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Speaker 2: Our prime minister meets with China but can't get a
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Speaker 2: hearing from the US. Now he speaks with a Palestinian
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Speaker 2: leader but can't get a hearing from Israel. All that
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Speaker 2: lots more, plus Tim Blair on Australia's hydrogen bomb, plus
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Speaker 2: Susio O'Brien and Stephen Senna Tiempe.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 2: Plenty to get through tonight. So let's kick off with another.
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Speaker 2: I told you so. As soon as we hear about
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Speaker 2: the alban easy labor government so called productivity roundtable, I
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Speaker 2: told you it was a worrying sign. A government with
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Speaker 2: no economic reform agenda was suddenly looking for one after
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Speaker 2: it got elected, and with Labour's inclinations and the state
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Speaker 2: of the budget. This could only mean one thing, a
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Speaker 2: push for higher taxes.
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Speaker 3: I encourage people to come to this roundtable as I
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Speaker 3: have and as I will, with an open door and
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Speaker 3: an open mind.
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Speaker 2: Now Albow and his Treasurer Jim Charmers, the Gomer Pile
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Speaker 2: of Australian politics. They've been telling us everything is sweet,
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Speaker 2: as if the cost of living crisis is over.
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Speaker 3: Today's inflation numbers are outstanding. There's no two ways about Itly,
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Speaker 3: hollyly holy.
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Speaker 2: See what I mean about Charmers and Goma Pile. But
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Speaker 2: here's the thing, Goma I mean. Charmers has now handpicked
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Speaker 2: the union and business leaders invited to Labour's roundtable, and
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Speaker 2: he's changed its name to an Economic Reform Roundtable, and
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Speaker 2: he has officially listed tax reform as part of the agenda.
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Speaker 4: Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we've had union bosses pushing for higher
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Speaker 2: taxes on housing investments and business profits. The old carbon
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Speaker 2: tax has been floated again, and the Productivity Commission has
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Speaker 2: been pushing various new taxes and higher taxes, including today's
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Speaker 2: ideas of higher council rates and broadening and or increasing
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Speaker 2: the GST.
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Speaker 4: Surprise surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is all so predictable.
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Speaker 2: With labor get elected, then come up with the higher
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Speaker 2: tax plans.
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Speaker 5: It's possible to rank taxes by how distortionary they are,
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Speaker 5: and that's an important piece of the analysis. But I'd
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Speaker 5: also say that when we're looking at tax reform, that's
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Speaker 5: only one of the criteria. It's also important to consider
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Speaker 5: when you look at a range of taxes, the equity
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Speaker 5: of different taxes.
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Speaker 2: Zaime, design, design, designing, shazam. All right, this economic reform
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Speaker 2: agenda later this month is going to.
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Speaker 1: Be a cracker.
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Speaker 2: Forget productivity, forget reform, look for higher taxes. Just while
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Speaker 2: we're on broken promises. You'll be well aware that during
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Speaker 2: our cost of living crisis and our housing crisis, labor
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Speaker 2: has allowed our immigration numbers to reach record levels.
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Speaker 1: And during the election.
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Speaker 2: Campaign they promised that they reduce immigration and they said
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Speaker 2: they had the matter in hand.
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Speaker 3: So what you'll see in the budget is that we
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Speaker 3: are lowering net overseas migration and we are building more homes.
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Speaker 1: Goh Lee. Well that was then.
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Speaker 2: Now the election is done and dusted, the immigration statistics
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Speaker 2: are showing that our net migration continues at record levels,
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Speaker 2: and the government has just approved a twenty five thousand
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Speaker 2: jump in the number of student visas for the coming year.
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Speaker 2: So despite promises and despite all the pressures we're experiencing
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Speaker 2: in housing, in transport, in healthcare, and even in social cohesion,
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Speaker 2: labor is plowing on with higher levels of immigration. By contrast,
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Speaker 2: have a look at what's happening in the US, where
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is doing exactly what he promised.
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Speaker 6: How about net migration any United States? Get this, It's down.
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Speaker 6: It's going to be down at.
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Speaker 1: Least sixty percent.
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Speaker 6: We may be dealing with, get this, negative net migration
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Speaker 6: to the United States in twenty twenty five. That would
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Speaker 6: be the first time there is negative net migration in
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Speaker 6: this country and at least fifty years.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about.
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Speaker 6: Down from two point eight million in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, chalk and cheese, isn't it Albanezy labor talks about
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Speaker 2: it and doesn't deliver. Trump is doing what he promised.
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Speaker 2: I'll have more on the US situation later with Kristen Tate.
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Speaker 2: Now let me get back to the bridge that protest
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Speaker 2: that war and our country. This really troubles me and
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Speaker 2: I know it troubles you. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: your messages of support. If our country has lost its way,
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Speaker 2: as I said last night, then of course it all
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Speaker 2: starts from the top. Think about how our Prime minister
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Speaker 2: early today had a phone conversation with Mahmoud Abbas, the
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Speaker 2: leader of the Palestinian Authority, to talk about the war
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Speaker 2: in Gharza and the possibility of a two state solution.
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Speaker 2: Now this is madness. Of course, you need an actual
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Speaker 2: state to be created before.
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Speaker 1: You can recognize one.
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Speaker 2: And there is nothing even remotely approaching a sovereign nation
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Speaker 2: in the Palestinian territories. Gaza is a war zone deliberately
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Speaker 2: turned into a terrorist trap for the Israeli army by
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Speaker 2: the terrorist leadership of Hummas So. It has no economy,
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Speaker 2: it has no effective governance and no rule of law.
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Speaker 1: It is a terrorist bad land.
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Speaker 2: And the West Bank run by Fattah, the other main
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Speaker 2: political faction in the Palestinian territories, also has its problems
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Speaker 2: with extremist elements, a serious lack of democracy and the
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Speaker 2: rule of law. And there's no agreement about borders, security
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Speaker 2: or a political system. Yet Albernizi speaks to Abbas about
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Speaker 2: a two state solution, a solution in fact that Abbas
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Speaker 2: actually rejected the last time it was put to him.
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Speaker 7: In two thousand and eight, Israel tried yet again. Prime
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Speaker 7: Minister Ehud Olmert went even further than Ahud Barak had,
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Speaker 7: expanding the peace offer to include additional land to sweeten
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Speaker 7: the deal. Lake his predecessor, the new Palestinian leader Mahmud
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Speaker 7: A Bass, turned the deal down.
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Speaker 8: Yep.
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Speaker 2: Mahmoud Abbas was offered a two state solutions seventeen years
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Speaker 2: ago and didn't take it even after Israel had gotten
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Speaker 2: out of Gaza and handed it over to the Palestinians.
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Speaker 2: But now after Gaza has been turned into a terrorist
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Speaker 2: bad land where Hamas still holds fifty hostages twenty alive,
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Speaker 2: thirty dead out. But easy reckons a bus can deliver
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Speaker 2: a two state solution.
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Speaker 1: This is delusional.
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Speaker 2: It's all about posturing and trying to punish Israel rather
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Speaker 2: than serious peacemaking or nation building. And listen to the
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Speaker 2: hysterical way our foreign minister talks about this.
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Speaker 8: Everybody understands that there is a risk there will be
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Speaker 8: no Palestine left to recognize unless the international community work
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Speaker 8: together towards two states.
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Speaker 2: That is the hyperbole of an activist, not a sensible
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Speaker 2: contribution from a foreign minister. But that's just it, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: They're not practicing diplomacy. They are radical activists trying to
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Speaker 2: demonize Israel. Just one aside about Albanezi and his hopeless
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Speaker 2: foreign policy. Think about where he's got Australia at the
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Speaker 2: moment in global diplomacy. He can't get a meeting with
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Speaker 2: our main security ally and key regional and global partner,
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Speaker 2: the United States. Albo can't crack a meeting with Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: the leader of the country we rely on for our
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Speaker 2: own defense.
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Speaker 1: But Albo can get meetings whenever he likes.
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Speaker 2: Was Ujingping, the leader of the communist superpower of China,
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Speaker 2: the main strategy threat in the region, the main economic
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Speaker 2: and security rival to the US, and a country that
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Speaker 2: has bullied US with economic sanctions and with military intimidation,
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Speaker 2: a country that spies on us.
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Speaker 1: But this is a bit of a pattern for Albo, now,
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Speaker 1: isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Because he can't get a phone call with the Israeli
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjaminettanyahu, the leader of a country that has
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Speaker 2: long been our friend and partner. Yeah, he can't get
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Speaker 2: a conversation with Bibi, but he can chat to the
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Speaker 2: leader of the Palestinian authority.
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Speaker 1: Albanizi.
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Speaker 2: Seems to be doing everything to insult our friends, the
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Speaker 2: people who run and support liberal democracies, but he does
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Speaker 2: chat with and he wins praise from the leaders who
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Speaker 2: do not share our values. Anyway, back to the Sydney
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Speaker 2: Harbor Bridge. There are discussions now about how the law
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Speaker 2: can be changed to prevent or limit bridge marches in
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Speaker 2: the future.
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Speaker 1: Some experts say it's all too.
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Speaker 2: Hard that if protesters want to march along any road
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Speaker 2: or across any bridge, we can't legally stop them. Isn't
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Speaker 2: this extraordinary? I mean, do these people not remember how
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Speaker 2: governments seem to have had.
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Speaker 1: All the powers, and all the.
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Speaker 2: Will and all the strength in the world when they
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Speaker 2: wanted to stop us from disagreeing with them over lockdowns
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Speaker 2: and vaccine mandates.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: In New South Wales the police were incredibly heavy handed,
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Speaker 2: crushing descent and blocking protests, but the Victorian authorities made
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Speaker 2: their northern counterparts seem kind and gentle by comparison, as
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Speaker 2: they turned up with strong arm tactics and rubber bullets
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Speaker 2: to tackle people opposed to lockdowns and mandatory vaccines. So
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Speaker 2: our authorities and our politicians make choices. They choose what
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Speaker 2: kind of protests they crack down on, or block, or
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Speaker 2: oppose or restrict. And since the day is right after
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Speaker 2: the October the seventh atrocities, the authorities have deliberately decided
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Speaker 2: to go soft on the pro Palestinian and anti Israeli protesters.
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Speaker 2: And that's part of the reason that anti Semitism has
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Speaker 2: only escalated over the past twenty two months, because our
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Speaker 2: authorities simply have not cracked down on it. And that's
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Speaker 2: why the march on Sunday, while it was large, perhaps
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Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people or more, was not a representation
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Speaker 2: of mainstream Australia. It was dominated by Islamist leaders and
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Speaker 2: their followers, people waving the flags of terrorist organizations, showing
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Speaker 2: photos of terrorist leaders, chanting death to the IDF. And
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Speaker 2: there were other radical political groups, Socialist revolutionaries and of
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Speaker 2: course the stock Standard Greens out there. But the numbers
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Speaker 2: were intimidating for the Australian Jewish community.
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Speaker 1: The people on.
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Speaker 2: The bridge would have easily outnumbered the entire Sydney Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: They might have gone close to outnumbering the entire Australian
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Speaker 2: Jewish community, but they didn't represent most of us. Five
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Speaker 2: point four million Sydney Siders did not march. And I
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Speaker 2: know from your feedback that you support Israel. You don't
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Speaker 2: give it a clear slate, but you do support its
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Speaker 2: struggle for survival, and you certainly support the Australian Jewish community,
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Speaker 2: who should not be suffering any of the abuse and
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Speaker 2: intimidation and violence that's been directed at them these past
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Speaker 2: twenty two months. So I want to make sure that
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Speaker 2: non Jewish Australians have the answer to share their support.
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Speaker 2: Mainstream Australians don't go to protests, they don't block traffic
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Speaker 2: on the bridge.
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Speaker 1: We've got better things to do.
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Speaker 2: But if you've got a view on all of this,
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Speaker 2: a message for the Australian Jewish community, or for Israelis anywhere,
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Speaker 2: or for all of the Australians across this great land,
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Speaker 2: just drop me a line. Email me at Kenny Report
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Speaker 2: at skynews dot com dot Au. That's Kenny Report at
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Speaker 2: skynews dot com dot Au. And I'll share some of
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Speaker 2: your views here each night and we'll pass them on
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Speaker 2: to members of the Jewish community.
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Speaker 1: As well.
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Speaker 2: Don't let the Islamist extremists and the radical activists on
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Speaker 2: the bridge speak for Australia.
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Speaker 1: Share your views with us and we'll give you a platform.
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Speaker 2: Jewish Australians need to know that they are our mates
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Speaker 2: along with everyone else.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is a story you might not have heard
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Speaker 1: much about.
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Speaker 2: If you're not living in New South Wales, you'll be
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Speaker 2: interested in it because incredibly, in Sydney as we speak,
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Speaker 2: there is a state Member of Parliament, Gareth Ward is
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Speaker 2: his name, who is a convicted sex offender and is
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Speaker 2: sitting behind bars awaiting sentencing, but he is still collecting
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Speaker 2: his salary of two hundred and eighty four thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: a year, including his electoral allowance.
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Speaker 1: Ward was found guilty last month of three counts of.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me, three counts of indecent assault and one count
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Speaker 2: of intercourse without consent against two young men, but he's
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Speaker 2: still a member of Parliament. His fellow MPs have tried
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Speaker 2: to do the right thing and have the former Liberal
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Speaker 2: MP expelled, but the Supreme Court has stepped in to
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Speaker 2: block the move. Let me bring in Libertarian Party MP
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Speaker 2: John Ruddick. John, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again.
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Speaker 2: First of all, go through as the procedure here. All
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Speaker 2: the MPs in State Parliament want to get rid of
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Speaker 2: Gareth Ward.
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Speaker 1: Why can't they.
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Speaker 9: Well, I believe they can.
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Speaker 10: It's completely unanimous across the spectrum of the politics.
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Speaker 9: In the parliament, left right, the whole.
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Speaker 10: Lot want to expel Gareth because he's currently in jail,
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Speaker 10: he's been found guilty. And the Men's government today it's
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Speaker 10: a Legislative Assembly decision.
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Speaker 9: They just need a simple majority. It's barely ever happened.
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Speaker 10: It's on a matter two hundred year old institution and
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Speaker 10: they were going to vote to expel him. Now then
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Speaker 10: Gareth's lawyers have gone to the Supreme Court and they
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Speaker 10: have said, well, we want an injunction on this, and
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Speaker 10: so they say that we can't make a decision on
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Speaker 10: this till Thursday or Friday.
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Speaker 9: But Premier mens I think is right.
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Speaker 10: He's saying, well, the Supreme Court, we respect its authority,
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Speaker 10: but its authority is not or powerful and we think
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Speaker 10: the Parliament thinks that they've actually got the right to
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Speaker 10: do this and the Supreme Court court can't tell us
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Speaker 10: what to do. The interesting thing is this, and this
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Speaker 10: is what Gareth lawyers are saying, what if Gareth wins
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Speaker 10: on appeal. I think about five or ten percent of
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Speaker 10: criminal convictions in New South Wales are overturned on the pill.
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Speaker 10: So if Gareth, if he's expelled and then there's a
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Speaker 10: by election and then there's a new elected member for
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Speaker 10: Kayama and that Gareth gets out of tail, which I
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Speaker 10: don't know how likely that is, happens about five percent
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Speaker 10: of the time. But if that did happen, that would
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Speaker 10: be awkward. I say, well, it would be awkward, but
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Speaker 10: let's put up with it, and if Gareth wants to
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Speaker 10: get re elected, he can contest the state election, which
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Speaker 10: is in about eighten months from now.
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Speaker 2: You would have thought that common decency from his point
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Speaker 2: of view, if you can use that phrase in relation
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Speaker 2: to criminal convictions like this, would have seen him resign.
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Speaker 1: Surely he should just resign from parliament, disappear.
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Speaker 2: But he's using lawyers to desperately hang on to this
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Speaker 2: representative position. He's still the representative of the people of Kayama,
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Speaker 2: the elector he was elected into while collecting this substantial salary.
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Speaker 10: Well, Gareth is one of these people who sort of
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Speaker 10: joined the Young Libruls on his sixteenth birthday, and that's
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Speaker 10: his entire life. So politics is his entire life, and
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Speaker 10: he's going to keep fighting. Look if he wants to,
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Speaker 10: if he wants to get re elected, Look he's going
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Speaker 10: to come out of jail.
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Speaker 9: It he hasn't been.
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Speaker 10: We don't know what his sentence is yet, but he's
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Speaker 10: going to be out of jil at some point. He
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Speaker 10: might want to recontest the election. Now, now that's that's
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Speaker 10: his hope. I think it is in his interest to
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Speaker 10: do what you just suggested, which is resign now and
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Speaker 10: get good will look very very unusually Chris. He got
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Speaker 10: re elected while he was charged with these crimes. You
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Speaker 10: would have thought if it was all through the paper,
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Speaker 10: his local constituents knew. He did go to absolutely every
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Speaker 10: possible event he could in Caama, and look, he was
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Speaker 10: genuinely possible. He did still win despite these charges. So
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Speaker 10: if he's maybe he's listening now in silver Water, he
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Speaker 10: should he should immediately resign, stop getting the salary and
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Speaker 10: face him in. Maybe he'll get out an appeal, Maybe
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Speaker 10: he'll serve centers and he can recontest and if he
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Speaker 10: feels like it.
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Speaker 2: It's an extraordinary situation. Here's what the Premier have to
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Speaker 2: say today.
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Speaker 11: We've got a week of parliament to sit and I
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Speaker 11: think that most people would appreciate it's an unconscionable situation
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Speaker 11: to have someone who's currently sitting in jail in silver
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Speaker 11: Water convicted the serious sexual offenses, who is demanding to
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Speaker 11: remain a member of Parliament and continue to be paid.
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Speaker 1: I think the point here is there's so many interesting
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Speaker 1: aspects to this.
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Speaker 2: But if you understand the point that until the last
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Speaker 2: appeal is finished, then there's still some hope of overturning
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Speaker 2: your conviction. But the point is if he was in
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Speaker 2: my if that, if he was in my job, or
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Speaker 2: who's working at the local supermarket or working at the
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Speaker 2: local car guard, he'd be gone now. He wouldn't be
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Speaker 2: in that job. It's because it's a government job. He's
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Speaker 2: an elected member and taxpayers are funding the bills that
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Speaker 2: he gets to stay.
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Speaker 9: Well, we do have to be careful.
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Speaker 10: We should be doing it under reluctance to kick people
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Speaker 10: out apartment and then they might come up with excuse
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Speaker 10: to kick me out apartment one day.
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Speaker 2: CHRISTI well, a criminal conviction, especially of sexual assault, it's
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Speaker 2: not a bad bar.
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Speaker 10: Well, look look two weeks ago, there were elements in
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Speaker 10: the media, insignificant elements, say, I think it was that
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Speaker 10: editorial in Sydney Morning. Hell do you mark Lathan should
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Speaker 10: be kicked out apartment. Now that whole thing's moved on,
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Speaker 10: everyone's forgotten about Mark Lathan, so we don't want to
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Speaker 10: rush it.
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Speaker 9: But you look as you say, you're right.
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Speaker 10: He is as of today a convicted criminal on a
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Speaker 10: fairly serious offense. So yes he should resign. And look,
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Speaker 10: tomorrow will be interesting what they do when they justlive assembly.
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Speaker 10: I suspect that they will defy the Supreme Court and
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Speaker 10: they will vote to officially remove him from Parliament.
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Speaker 9: That will trigger a biolex and karma.
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to quickly get you on yesterday's protest
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Speaker 2: while you're here. I got you on to talk about
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Speaker 2: Gareth Ward, of course, but I know that you were
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Speaker 2: at the protest on Sunday across the Harbor Bridge. You
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Speaker 2: spoke positively about it. Surely, surely you must feel some
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Speaker 2: compunction about sharing a platform there where there were Islamus
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Speaker 2: leaders in that crowd who were saying it was a
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Speaker 2: match for humanity. The same Islamist leaders who were celebrating
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Speaker 2: the slaughter of Israelis back on October the seventh, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty three.
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Speaker 9: Well, I didn't see any of that.
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Speaker 10: Nobody in the State Parliament spoke up more in defense
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Speaker 10: of Israel and the hostages than I did in the
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Speaker 10: in the months after.
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Speaker 9: October the seventh.
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Speaker 10: Now, look, there has been a collapse in support in
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Speaker 10: Australia and across the world about what the radical element
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Speaker 10: of Israeli politics is doing.
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Speaker 9: Chris.
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Speaker 10: They have gone too far and these people out here,
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Speaker 10: I did not see any of these our Kida flags
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Speaker 10: and anything. It's been cherry picked. During the COVID protests
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Speaker 10: which I was at and which you then you've just
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Speaker 10: spoken in favor of it. When you have a public rally,
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Speaker 10: there's going to be a few crazes that put up
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Speaker 10: a few crazy signs. There were flat earthers in the
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Speaker 10: COVID rally. There were all sorts of crazy stuff. That
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Speaker 10: doesn't that doesn't mean we tire everybody. Now, I was there, Chris,
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Speaker 10: because the death the death rate has been about one
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Speaker 10: hundred to one.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, is israel I don't know where youre getting
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Speaker 2: those numbers from.
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Speaker 1: Because of the death devastation.
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Speaker 10: Look at the destruction in Gaza. Look, I'm a friend
20:55
Speaker 10: of Israel and the Jews all around the world, and
20:58
Speaker 10: what the rat There's two sides of Israeli politics. There's
21:02
Speaker 10: the moderate Zionises. Moderate Zionists have always wanted peace. The
21:08
Speaker 10: radical Zionus have always wanted expansion. Now I hope there's
21:12
Speaker 10: a fresh election in Israel as quickly as possible so
21:15
Speaker 10: we can de escalate a Look.
21:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, we are generally out of time, but what
21:20
Speaker 2: we need is the war to end, for Hummus to
21:23
Speaker 2: be defeated, not to have hundreds of thousands of people
21:26
Speaker 2: marching in shows of support that can only embolden hum
21:30
Speaker 2: Us and continue it's it's hold on the hostages and
21:35
Speaker 2: putting all the pressure on it.
21:36
Speaker 9: Who gave it to mus Netta, who gave us so much?
21:38
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go, here we are true. True, we'll
21:41
Speaker 1: have the report of it. Chris, Well, we'll have to
21:43
Speaker 1: have another chat another time. But I just wanted to
21:45
Speaker 1: get let you have your say on that. John Ruddick.
21:47
Speaker 2: I appreciate John Ruddick there, who was one of the
21:50
Speaker 2: protesters on the bridge on Sunday. Actually, as I said,
21:52
Speaker 2: I want to have him speak to him about that
21:54
Speaker 2: Gareth Ward issue. Now I want to catch up with
21:57
Speaker 2: Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph as ever, and Tim,
22:00
Speaker 2: there's some developments in the renewable energy space that I
22:04
Speaker 2: was really keen to get your take on. It seems that,
22:07
Speaker 2: rather belatedly, I would have thought, a number of people
22:10
Speaker 2: in the media are starting to realize that this green
22:13
Speaker 2: hydrogen revolution that you and I have spoken about many times,
22:16
Speaker 2: that's really just a hydrogen bomb. They're starting to realize, Hey,
22:19
Speaker 2: all those government subsidies, all those big promises, they're coming
22:23
Speaker 2: to nothing.
22:26
Speaker 12: Maybe, just maybe we need more graduates from the STEM
22:29
Speaker 12: field to go into journalism than from the humanities. Oh,
22:33
Speaker 12: I'm actually kind of serious about it about I was
22:36
Speaker 12: a total STEM washout as a kid. But you tend
22:40
Speaker 12: to appreciate the maths and the sciences and the physics
22:44
Speaker 12: a little bit more when people are talking about green
22:47
Speaker 12: hydrogen and other fantasies. Because you apply hard sciences, to
22:52
Speaker 12: hard science, to those sort of fields, those sort of
22:54
Speaker 12: dreams they fall apart pretty quickly. But because we've got
22:57
Speaker 12: a bunch of humanities graduates and humanity students in senior
23:01
Speaker 12: media positions and in senior political situations, they all think
23:05
Speaker 12: this sort of stuff is possible, Well in a fairy tal.
23:08
Speaker 1: It is in a fairy tale, all right, there's extraordinary.
23:10
Speaker 2: So I've shown this stuff for previously, but this is
23:13
Speaker 2: the sort of stuff that's been run not ironically, but
23:17
Speaker 2: was run big at the time in the media as
23:19
Speaker 2: some new future for Australia.
23:22
Speaker 1: We'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution.
23:26
Speaker 8: And what we know is that the green hydrogen sector
23:30
Speaker 8: has an enormous potential in this country.
23:32
Speaker 2: Only labor has the plan to ensure that Australia is
23:36
Speaker 2: part of and is leading that hydrogen revolution.
23:39
Speaker 1: So this stuff is run at the media at the time.
23:41
Speaker 2: Tim is these billion dollar new plans, hundreds of new jobs,
23:45
Speaker 2: green jobs are revolutionizing Australia, and then the media never
23:49
Speaker 2: go back and report that a year two years later
23:52
Speaker 2: nothing's happened. Have a look at this from Twiggy Forest
23:55
Speaker 2: in Queensland in twenty twenty one.
23:58
Speaker 8: You have, I think a great government which is steering
24:01
Speaker 8: in towards the green heart in future. And why because
24:05
Speaker 8: they're prophetic the world will move on from fossil fuel.
24:10
Speaker 8: You can all have your own opinion as to when
24:12
Speaker 8: that happens. But what I promise you is we will
24:15
Speaker 8: not allow the world to keep on cooking. We will
24:17
Speaker 8: not allow ourselves and our children to inherit a much
24:22
Speaker 8: less stable, much more hostile environment than we have.
24:27
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's unbelievable because the thing is tim the
24:29
Speaker 2: big project he was promoting up there in Gladsten in Queensland,
24:32
Speaker 2: multi billion dollar project, lots of government money went into
24:35
Speaker 2: funding it.
24:36
Speaker 1: It's all fallen over. It's not happening in.
24:38
Speaker 2: Fact, but they've got a water pipeline going into it
24:42
Speaker 2: and they've got nothing.
24:43
Speaker 1: They don't know what to do with the water.
24:45
Speaker 12: It was interesting, wasn't he Twiggies saying that clip. You
24:49
Speaker 12: know that he was talking about prophecies and you know,
24:51
Speaker 12: predicting the future, and he said that, you know, we
24:54
Speaker 12: can't let the world keep on cooking. Well he's right
24:56
Speaker 12: about that because they're banning they're trying to ban gas everywhere, Chris.
24:59
Speaker 12: But green hydrogen is to not be replacing any traditional
25:03
Speaker 12: energy systems of energy sources anytime soon at all. So
25:07
Speaker 12: all of these prophecies fall away. And if the media
25:11
Speaker 12: have been more curious about the actual technology behind these
25:15
Speaker 12: sort of claims, yeah, we wouldn't be in this kind
25:18
Speaker 12: of situation now. I mean, the fact that it's left
25:20
Speaker 12: to the likes of us to cast doubt on the
25:23
Speaker 12: viability of these things kind of shows that we went
25:26
Speaker 12: on a good way. There should be a a lot
25:28
Speaker 12: more expertise and a lot more people, like I say,
25:30
Speaker 12: from the stem background, looking at these things before they
25:33
Speaker 12: become real in the minds of people who don't know
25:35
Speaker 12: what the hell they're talking about.
25:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose.
25:37
Speaker 2: I mean, you and I have been around for a
25:38
Speaker 2: while and you see it so often, and whenever you
25:40
Speaker 2: see politicians with business people talking grand plans and talking
25:45
Speaker 2: big subsidies, history tells you it usually falls over because
25:49
Speaker 2: no one's done those hard sums. It's a bit like
25:52
Speaker 2: the Kevin Costner film Field of Dreams. They all think,
25:54
Speaker 2: you know, sort of, you know, make the promises off
25:56
Speaker 2: of the subsidies, and that will all happen, and they
25:58
Speaker 2: all come and there it works out that way. I've
26:01
Speaker 2: got to get to get your thoughts on the weather.
26:04
Speaker 2: I think you've had a fair bit of rain in
26:06
Speaker 2: recent times in western Victoria. New South Wales is still
26:11
Speaker 2: getting consumped at the moment. Here's one of the more
26:13
Speaker 2: recent news reports.
26:15
Speaker 1: Let's have look at the rain turtles.
26:17
Speaker 7: Firstly that we've picked up over the past week.
26:19
Speaker 4: Now the blue shading shows more than one hundred millimeters,
26:21
Speaker 4: so that's been widespread along the coast from about Port
26:23
Speaker 4: mcquarie down to Ala.
26:25
Speaker 1: Dullah got to.
26:27
Speaker 2: Check in this, check in on this every now and then, Tim,
26:29
Speaker 2: because you know what your namesake, mister Flannery, the former
26:33
Speaker 2: Climate Commissioner, had to say about all this.
26:37
Speaker 7: Even the rain at falls isn't actually going to phill
26:40
Speaker 7: our dams and our river system. Even the rain at
26:42
Speaker 7: falls isn't actually going to phill our dams and our
26:45
Speaker 7: river system.
26:47
Speaker 2: No harm done, Tim, You've just got every state to
26:49
Speaker 2: build a desalination plant.
26:52
Speaker 12: Yeah, imagine, I always thought that would be the best
26:55
Speaker 12: job in Australia, wouldn't it running one of the desalinizations.
27:01
Speaker 12: I mean, presumably you get the occasional rays and anything,
27:03
Speaker 12: but what do your keep performance indicators? Just flicking the
27:06
Speaker 12: odd switch watch engages, you know, getting getting the getting
27:10
Speaker 12: the workforce, pickleball team in order it's to be a hell,
27:14
Speaker 12: it'd be a dream job. And then every twenty five
27:16
Speaker 12: years or so, better provide some water. But apart from that,
27:19
Speaker 12: you're just coasting. But I also love whenever I used
27:22
Speaker 12: to run that comment in the Dali Telegraph. You know
27:26
Speaker 12: that there will never be raining again and so on,
27:28
Speaker 12: and even the rain that falls you get people in
27:31
Speaker 12: the comment section. So that's not what he meant. He
27:34
Speaker 12: didn't mean exactly what he did. It's a great advantage
27:39
Speaker 12: when you when your followers are that religious, they just
27:42
Speaker 12: go right past the words and all the way to
27:44
Speaker 12: the faith.
27:44
Speaker 1: Yea.
27:44
Speaker 2: And he said that in two thousand and seven and
27:47
Speaker 2: they're pretty much NonStop floods and you say, sis, But
27:52
Speaker 2: that's not what he meant.
27:53
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Tim. We'll catch up with you
27:55
Speaker 1: later in the week with Mark Nicholson. We're going to
27:57
Speaker 1: get to a break.
27:58
Speaker 2: On the other side of that, we're going to check
27:59
Speaker 2: in on the Albnisi government's secret agenda for new and
28:02
Speaker 2: higher taxes as I mentioned well.
28:04
Speaker 1: At carbon taxes, housing taxes, the GST. It's all on
28:07
Speaker 1: the table.
28:13
Speaker 2: It's got to Victoria now and catch up with Shadow
28:15
Speaker 2: Assistant Minister for Education Zoey Mackenzie.
28:17
Speaker 1: Zoe, good to talk to you, good to do. Your
28:20
Speaker 1: secrets not too bad at all.
28:22
Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts first up giving your
28:25
Speaker 2: education role on twenty five thousand extra student visas to
28:29
Speaker 2: be offered by the alban Easy Labor government next year.
28:32
Speaker 2: I thought this might be promised to reduce immigration, not
28:36
Speaker 2: to continue increasing it.
28:38
Speaker 13: Oh, Chris, You've been an observer of politics for long
28:41
Speaker 13: enough to know that they say one thing before an
28:42
Speaker 13: election and then afterwards something quite different, and we're seeing
28:46
Speaker 13: that across a range of portfolio areas with his government.
28:49
Speaker 13: I did catch part of an interview yesterday with Julian Hill,
28:52
Speaker 13: who's the relevant Assistant minister in this space, and he
28:54
Speaker 13: was making assurances about new residential developments dedicated for international students.
29:01
Speaker 13: I'll be interested in seeing the timeline attached to the
29:04
Speaker 13: delivery of those residences. As long as the infrastructure is
29:08
Speaker 13: being planned, we can have some confidence in growth. But
29:12
Speaker 13: we've heard so many times in this government we're going
29:15
Speaker 13: to deliver this. I think we're going to deliver one
29:16
Speaker 13: point two men dollar houses and they've only delivered seventeen
29:20
Speaker 13: tens of thousands of new residents, residents of international students.
29:25
Speaker 13: Let's kick the tires and see what sits behind that
29:28
Speaker 13: and make sure that it's not going to increase pressure
29:32
Speaker 13: elsewhere in the Australian economy.
29:34
Speaker 1: Well, well it has to. It has to.
29:35
Speaker 2: Even if they are able to build accommodation for students,
29:38
Speaker 2: obviously that's going to be built at the expense of
29:41
Speaker 2: more housing because we're under pressure to build enough houses
29:44
Speaker 2: at the moment. So it goes against everything they said
29:47
Speaker 2: pre election, which is, as you say, is what we
29:50
Speaker 2: should expect. I suppose the Prime Minister today has been
29:54
Speaker 2: on the blower to mummoud A bus, the Palestinian leader,
30:00
Speaker 2: but he can't get a chat with Benjamin Netanyahoo. He
30:03
Speaker 2: can meet whenever he likes with ggping, but he can't
30:06
Speaker 2: get a meeting with Donald Trump. Isn't he talking to
30:11
Speaker 2: the wrong side. Shouldn't he be close to our friends
30:14
Speaker 2: rather than to the strategic threats and to the countries
30:20
Speaker 2: or groups that actually don't share our values.
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Speaker 13: It's no doubt of some concern to the Prime Minister,
30:26
Speaker 13: as it is to many Australians that he's called are
30:28
Speaker 13: going unanswered with important allies, whether that's the United States
30:33
Speaker 13: or indeed Israel. It is a real pity that he
30:37
Speaker 13: hasn't had a conversation with Benjamin Netanya, who he's clearly
30:40
Speaker 13: positioning to recognize a Palestinian State together with France, Canada
30:46
Speaker 13: and the UK potentially in September in New York. He
30:50
Speaker 13: must discuss that with the Israeli leadership. It's a really
30:55
Speaker 13: important issue for this country in so far as it
30:58
Speaker 13: continues to breed social uncohesional lack of cohesion, social unrest.
31:04
Speaker 13: He needs to have that conversation and to discuss what
31:07
Speaker 13: the impact might be in relation to what we need
31:10
Speaker 13: is a community of international pressure on humus.
31:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know he's picked his sides in this argument.
31:17
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
31:18
Speaker 2: I think September he's going for recognition that'll be a
31:21
Speaker 2: total abandoning of Israel and of the.
31:23
Speaker 1: Jewish community in Australia.
31:25
Speaker 2: Tony Burke, the Immigration Minister, has been boasting about how
31:29
Speaker 2: he's been blocking visa.
31:31
Speaker 1: Applications in order to.
31:32
Speaker 2: Support social cohesion here, and he cites people like Candas
31:37
Speaker 2: Owens and Kanye West and a couple of Israeli politicians.
31:42
Speaker 2: In other words, he thinks sort of hardline right wingers
31:46
Speaker 2: that he's kept out of the country. He doesn't mention
31:48
Speaker 2: the three thousand people from Gaza he's given visas to
31:52
Speaker 2: with our proper security.
31:53
Speaker 13: Checks exactly that we expressed our concern over the last
31:57
Speaker 13: eighteen months that so many people were coming in appeared
32:00
Speaker 13: to be tourist visas without the appropriate checks. When there
32:03
Speaker 13: have been analogous situations in the past, we have made
32:06
Speaker 13: sure that everybody's background was checked appropriately, even if that
32:10
Speaker 13: meant for them to go to third countries for a
32:11
Speaker 13: period of time before coming to Australia. I'm not sure
32:14
Speaker 13: that we ever got a proper explanation actually about the
32:17
Speaker 13: checks that had been conducted, but I'm sure you know,
32:20
Speaker 13: if mister Burke thinks that knocking back half a dozen
32:23
Speaker 13: visas for others justifies the behavior that they have demonstrated
32:27
Speaker 13: out the last eight ten months, we.
32:29
Speaker 1: Would see it is a worry. I worry. I'm getting
32:32
Speaker 1: increasingly worried. Thanks so much for joining us, so I
32:35
Speaker 1: appreciate Zoey mackenzie there, the Member for Flinders joining us
32:38
Speaker 1: from Victoria.
32:40
Speaker 2: On the other side of the break, we're going to
32:41
Speaker 2: have more on this ridiculous furorre over Sydney Sweeney, who
32:46
Speaker 2: happens to have good genes and now she's got Donald
32:49
Speaker 2: Trump's support.
32:50
Speaker 1: Don't go away.
32:56
Speaker 2: I'll catch up with Kristen Tate in the US in
32:58
Speaker 2: just a moment. But first, this controversy not an issue.
33:02
Speaker 2: Some would say over the actress Sidney Sweeney starring in
33:05
Speaker 2: an ad for American Eagle which has the tagline Sidney
33:10
Speaker 2: Sweeney has great genes. Well, this controversy is continuing and
33:15
Speaker 2: the over reaction from some of the usual types is
33:19
Speaker 2: pretty hilarious.
33:20
Speaker 14: Have a look, Sydney Sweeney has good jeep. Really like
33:25
Speaker 14: the Eugenics in that it's dripping with it. It's white
33:28
Speaker 14: supremacy at the end of the day, a.
33:30
Speaker 15: Lot saying that it's slighted towards like Eugenics.
33:36
Speaker 2: As I said to Kristen, it's extraordinary to see how
33:39
Speaker 2: some of these leftists and feminists have gone on the attack.
33:43
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean the ad was a play on words, right.
33:47
Speaker 15: The point of the ad was that Sidney Sweeney is attractive.
33:51
Speaker 15: That's it. It was just kind of this classic Americana
33:54
Speaker 15: type ad. But here's the thing, Chris, Sidney Sweeney is
33:58
Speaker 15: blonde with blue eye and she's white. She's got that
34:02
Speaker 15: traditional female body type that men have always been attracted to.
34:06
Speaker 15: So the last has now, I guess, made it maga
34:10
Speaker 15: to recognize traditional female beauty.
34:14
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just absurd.
34:15
Speaker 16: This whole thing.
34:16
Speaker 2: You refer to your traditional female body type to which
34:20
Speaker 2: men are generally attracted I don't know what you're talking
34:22
Speaker 2: about there, but I better move on to something I
34:25
Speaker 2: do understand, and that is the share market.
34:28
Speaker 1: Have a look at what's happened to American Eagle.
34:30
Speaker 2: Isn't it the shares price since the ads started, they
34:34
Speaker 2: picked up initially, but then since the controversy in the
34:37
Speaker 2: last few days, it's gone through the roof.
34:39
Speaker 1: So it's certainly been good for business.
34:41
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has made great play of the fact
34:44
Speaker 2: that it turns out Sidney Sweeney apparently is a Republican
34:48
Speaker 2: registered as a Republican.
34:49
Speaker 4: Have a look if Sydney Sweeney is a registered Republican.
34:54
Speaker 1: I think her head is fantastic. Okay, thank you very much, everybody.
34:58
Speaker 2: Here mad it's extraordin reason, a Christian. All this so
35:01
Speaker 2: all American culture. It applies into Trump's view of America,
35:06
Speaker 2: and he's making high out of this.
35:09
Speaker 9: Of course he is.
35:10
Speaker 15: This is just classic Trump. But I never understood why
35:13
Speaker 15: all these Hollywood people are always so liberal outwardly. I mean,
35:18
Speaker 15: half the country is conservative. We need a conservative celebrity
35:22
Speaker 15: or two. So the few that we have do very well.
35:25
Speaker 15: And that's why American Eagle Shares our skyrocketing, because the
35:29
Speaker 15: half of the country that thinks liberals are totally out
35:32
Speaker 15: of their minds are now going and buying these jeans
35:35
Speaker 15: because Sidney Sweeney's apparently a Republican.
35:38
Speaker 2: You can make a political statement depending on what would
35:41
Speaker 2: change you by. Have a look at Donald Trump on
35:44
Speaker 2: truth social He's wide into this again in social media,
35:48
Speaker 2: prising of course Sidney Sweeney and comparing her to the
35:52
Speaker 2: woke Tyler Swift is apparently not hot anymore because she's woke.
35:56
Speaker 1: It's just brilliant stuff.
35:58
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna make a prediction here because let's have
36:01
Speaker 2: a look at one of the television ads for American
36:03
Speaker 2: Eagle jeans with Sydney Sweeney. Sidney's Tweeney hasburg Keynes. Okay,
36:25
Speaker 2: she likes a Mustang V eight. Stick with me here, Kristen,
36:29
Speaker 2: because I want to show you this latest clip that's
36:31
Speaker 2: turned up on social media.
36:45
Speaker 14: Fie, Oh my god, girl, that was really good.
36:52
Speaker 1: Okay, there we have it.
36:53
Speaker 2: She shoots guns and shoots well apparently Christian. Now this
36:57
Speaker 2: is my prediction, right, She's she's an attractive American woman
37:00
Speaker 2: who is out now as a registered Republican.
37:04
Speaker 1: Donald Trump supports her.
37:05
Speaker 2: She likes driving the Heites, and she doesn't mind shooting
37:09
Speaker 2: at the shooting range.
37:10
Speaker 1: She is going to be canceled big time.
37:14
Speaker 15: Well, she could be canceled by half the country, but
37:18
Speaker 15: half the other half of the country is loving this.
37:20
Speaker 15: And you know what the best part about this is
37:22
Speaker 15: every time one of these celebrities gets canceled by the media,
37:27
Speaker 15: within five seconds, Chris, they come out robling saying, don't worry, please,
37:31
Speaker 15: don't hate me. I'm actually not a Republican, please, and
37:34
Speaker 15: they put out this big garbledegook statement kind of trying
37:38
Speaker 15: to appease them all. She's not doing that. Sydney Sweeney
37:41
Speaker 15: is not out there groveling or apologizing or trying to
37:44
Speaker 15: distance herself from Republicans. She's just kind of letting this
37:48
Speaker 15: play out, and her silence tells us everything we need
37:51
Speaker 15: to know. She's a Republican and she's not apologizing for it.
37:55
Speaker 15: It's great.
37:56
Speaker 1: I hope you're right.
37:57
Speaker 2: I hope she does stick true to whatever her political
38:00
Speaker 2: beliefs are and she's not canceled. And if they try
38:03
Speaker 2: and cansel this, she should just soldier on because, as
38:06
Speaker 2: you say, there are plenty of people who admire and
38:09
Speaker 2: respect to It's going to be a fascinating one to watch.
38:12
Speaker 2: I wanted to get onto a topic that you've raised
38:14
Speaker 2: with us for years now, and that is, of course,
38:17
Speaker 2: immigration and the crackdown on the border from Donald Trump's
38:21
Speaker 2: been successful.
38:23
Speaker 1: You wanted to do more in terms of getting rid
38:25
Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants.
38:26
Speaker 2: But astonishing news now that this year American net migration
38:31
Speaker 2: might actually go backwards, perhaps for the first time ever.
38:35
Speaker 1: Here's a CNN report.
38:37
Speaker 6: How about net migration any United States? Get this, It's down.
38:41
Speaker 6: It's going to be down at least sixty percent. We
38:45
Speaker 6: may be dealing with get this, negative net migration to
38:49
Speaker 6: the United States in twenty twenty five. That would be
38:52
Speaker 6: the first time there is negative net migration in this
38:54
Speaker 6: country and at least fifty years.
38:56
Speaker 1: We're talking about.
38:57
Speaker 6: Down from two point eight million in twenty twenty four.
39:02
Speaker 1: This is going to be big news and a stunning turnaround.
39:05
Speaker 2: We're dealing in the country here in Australia, where our
39:07
Speaker 2: immigration has been running too high. Governments have been promising
39:11
Speaker 2: to reduce it but have failed to do so. But
39:13
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, once more here is actually delivering on his
39:17
Speaker 2: election agenda.
39:19
Speaker 15: It speaks to the power of the US presidency as well.
39:22
Speaker 15: All it takes is one strong leader with will and
39:25
Speaker 15: with the right messaging to have this dramatic impact.
39:29
Speaker 1: This is not a bad statistics.
39:31
Speaker 15: You'll have you know, these leftists on the mainstream media
39:34
Speaker 15: melting down saying this statistic means we're going to have
39:37
Speaker 15: this huge crisis in America. We won't have enough workers.
39:40
Speaker 15: That is absolutely not true. We need to start focusing
39:43
Speaker 15: on this country on quality in terms of quantity and
39:47
Speaker 15: instead of quantity rather when it comes to who we
39:49
Speaker 15: are letting into this country. What we had going on
39:52
Speaker 15: for the past few years was unsustainable and it is
39:56
Speaker 15: finally turning around. And I laugh because we had people
40:00
Speaker 15: like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden telling us that we
40:02
Speaker 15: had to pass this massive border bill, which would you know,
40:06
Speaker 15: increase all this spending in order to actually secure the border.
40:10
Speaker 15: We didn't need that. All we needed was strong messaging
40:12
Speaker 15: and a strong leader to change things dramatically.
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Speaker 2: Amazing stuff, amazing turnaround. Great to talk to you, Kristen,
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Speaker 2: catch you next week.
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Speaker 15: Thank you very much. Chris.
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Speaker 1: Great to talk.
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Speaker 2: Whether you like Donald Trump or not, surely it's a
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Speaker 2: good thing that politicians actually do what they promised to
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Speaker 2: do before they get elected. Let's take another break on
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Speaker 2: the other side, we'll catch up with Susio Brian and
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Speaker 2: Steven Senate TI Empire talking about public servants being forced
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Speaker 2: to fly economy, the horror, how will I survive? Let's
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Speaker 2: go to our Tuesday panel with the Suzio Brian News
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Speaker 2: Corps National Education Editor joins us from Melbourne and Steven
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Speaker 2: Senate The Empire Breakfast Hope at Breakfast hosted two double
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Speaker 2: C and camera.
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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you both again.
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of issues down your way, Susie,
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Speaker 2: So let's start in Melbourne, the Victoria being, of course
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Speaker 2: the law and order exemplar of the nation.
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Speaker 1: It's the country, it's the state.
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Speaker 2: It's a state where you're very good at locking down
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Speaker 2: your own citizens, not so good at locking up criminals.
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Speaker 2: And this later story about young offenders who are incarcerated
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Speaker 2: wh they're not supposed to have access to mobile phones
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Speaker 2: and the.
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Speaker 1: Like, but they're posting pictures to social media. What's going on?
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Speaker 16: Well, all I can say is the post and boast
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Speaker 16: laws that are coming in soon cannot come fast enough.
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Speaker 16: I mean it is actually sickening to look at some
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Speaker 16: of this footage. These are kids who are post posting
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Speaker 16: and boasting about from juvenile detention from the back of
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Speaker 16: Divvy vans while they're being arrested, even inside court, which
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Speaker 16: I'm pretty sure is illegal, not the daycare. So it's
41:58
Speaker 16: just goes to show how much we need these new laws.
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Speaker 16: So there will now be once they come in two
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Speaker 16: year man or two year maximum sentence, and even those
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Speaker 16: who take the footage can also be charged. Can't come
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Speaker 16: soon enough.
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Speaker 2: It's actually instructive though, Susie. It actually highlights the point
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Speaker 2: for us. They're actually posting these photos taking the mickey
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Speaker 2: out of the whole justice system.
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Speaker 1: They know it's a joke.
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Speaker 16: That's exactly right, that's exactly what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, even us probably running some.
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Speaker 16: Of those photos is I cuedos to them loving it.
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Speaker 16: You know, we need to show, we need to show
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Speaker 16: the extent of the problem and just how brazen these
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Speaker 16: young offenders are. They actually don't care. So an additional
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Speaker 16: two years in jail that could actually have some impact.
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Speaker 2: They have a lookout for some extra Herald Sun subscriptions
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Speaker 2: in the jails as they're trying to see their own place.
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Speaker 1: In your publication.
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Speaker 2: Even there's no doubt many glum faces around the nation's
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Speaker 2: capital today. As you wander the streets, you'll see a
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Speaker 2: lot of downcast federal public servants told that from now
43:10
Speaker 2: on they might have to fly economy.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I don't know how they're actually going to
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Speaker 4: fly anywhere when they're working from home. I mean, they've
43:18
Speaker 4: got to get to the airport somehow, which is going
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Speaker 4: to be problematic from them.
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Speaker 9: But look, I mean this is a no brainer.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's our money.
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Speaker 4: They shouldn't be flying business class on flights under three hours.
43:27
Speaker 4: I mean the reality is that, well, the vast majority
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Speaker 4: of flights I imagine they would take would be less
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Speaker 4: than three hours. But when you look at the cost breakdown,
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Speaker 4: I think twenty five percent of flights are in business class,
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Speaker 4: but it accounts for forty five percent of the cost
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Speaker 4: of flights.
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Speaker 1: Where are these people going?
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Speaker 2: I just find that extraordinary. You know, a Melbourne Sydney
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Speaker 2: flight or a Canberra Brisbane flight. You know you're on
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Speaker 2: a plane for an hour an hour and a half
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Speaker 2: and they have to stump up extra thousands of dollars
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Speaker 2: at taxpayers expense to fly business. It's just extraordinary that
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Speaker 2: this was I mean, it should have been tackled in
43:59
Speaker 2: the Howard days. I'll put my hand up. You know,
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Speaker 2: I was a senior political advisor. I got flown around
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Speaker 2: a lot in business class. It's an outrageous waste of money, right.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that's curating that apparently only points Sorry.
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Speaker 1: So are you you fitty Stephen? And I'll come back
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Speaker 1: to SUSI.
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Speaker 4: I was going to say, it's interesting that only I
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Speaker 4: think something like point two percent of the flights are
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Speaker 4: on Jet Star, So I mean they don't even like
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Speaker 4: forking out the extra three dollars for a can of coke.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that is pritti ish, Susie. You don't see them
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Speaker 1: on Jet Star.
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Speaker 2: I was fly Jet Star the other day and I
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Speaker 2: didn't see anybody looking particularly public servant ish.
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Speaker 16: But what's funny about all of this is that there
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Speaker 16: is actually a policy in place that says that they're
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Speaker 16: supposed to have to not go quantas or the most
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Speaker 16: expensive under three hours, not business class. They're supposed to
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Speaker 16: try and save money. They're not meant to be using
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Speaker 16: a frequent flight. But no one's keeping to the policy,
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Speaker 16: so they didn't need new policy to make sure that
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Speaker 16: they're sticking to the old policy. Maybe then a new
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Speaker 16: policy over the top of that.
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Speaker 7: To make sure the other two policies exactly.
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Speaker 2: Somebody do something rather than just talk about it. Now,
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Speaker 2: let's stick with Melbourne against Susia. Now, old mate Nicholas Reese,
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Speaker 2: of course, former Sky News regular and now the Lord
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Speaker 2: Mayor of Sydney, a former Labor staffer. That's why he's
45:19
Speaker 2: got such a good knack from always being in the
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Speaker 2: news offer with kooky ideas and his latest plan is
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Speaker 2: to make Melbourne the most optimistic city in the country.
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Speaker 2: And I would have thought, as a Carton supporter, Nicholas
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Speaker 2: Reese has got some high talking about optimism.
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Speaker 16: Well, he says this is what the young people want
45:39
Speaker 16: and he's prepared to set out some KPIs to make
45:42
Speaker 16: people happier. I know some people would think perhaps Nick
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Speaker 16: ree is saying less. Apparently his last Butcher's Paper thought, brother,
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Speaker 16: was that there should be six seasons. I haven't got
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Speaker 16: to the bottom of that. For KPIs for optimism. My god,
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Speaker 16: it's kind of amusing, but he is honestly the dopeers Lord.
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Speaker 2: Mayor in six seasons full of the crowded house song
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Speaker 2: that was written in Melbourne. Four seasons in one day.
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Speaker 2: I Nick wants to cram in two more six seasons
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Speaker 2: in one day.
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Speaker 1: Good luck better?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but mind you the way his footy team's going,
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Speaker 2: and you'd want his seasons to pass as quickly as possible,
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Speaker 2: no doubt.
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Speaker 1: Now let's get onto the unemployment situation.
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Speaker 2: Stephen and I find this latest statistic coming out about
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Speaker 2: job seeker quite staggering. More than half the people on
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Speaker 2: unemployment benefits have been on them for more than two years.
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Speaker 1: That is a problem.
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Speaker 4: It flies in the face of the unemployment rate that
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Speaker 4: the Treasury keeps telling us is historically low. But you know,
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Speaker 4: I'd find it extraordinary the public servants are saying to
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Speaker 4: the Minister, Tanny Plibersect, that there needs to be a
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Speaker 4: concerted effort to get people off job seeker. I thought
46:52
Speaker 4: that was the only focus. If you're on job seeker,
46:55
Speaker 4: you're there to try and find a job. What other
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Speaker 4: focus do they have other than to try and get
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Speaker 4: people off seeker. But look, we've had a few structural
47:02
Speaker 4: problems with this for years. And I used to talk
47:04
Speaker 4: about this when they talked about the backpack of tax
47:06
Speaker 4: back about ten years ago. What are we doing to
47:10
Speaker 4: get long term unemployed ossies into these jobs that traditionally
47:14
Speaker 4: ozsies don't want to do. There's got to be a
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Speaker 4: stick and a carrot approach to actually get these people
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Speaker 4: off the doll and into jobs that we have to
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Speaker 4: import people to do otherwise.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a big problem.
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Speaker 2: There's got to be a greater incentive to get people
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Speaker 2: off the benefits and into work, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you to a very special opportunity
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Speaker 2: to share a message with the country. First up, I
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Speaker 2: want to show you that Megan markel has Megan Markeles
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Speaker 2: that's her name, isn't it. Yeah, the former Prince or
47:40
Speaker 2: former Princess or whatever. She's turned forty four and her
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Speaker 2: own little company has put out.
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Speaker 1: This birthday message.
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Speaker 2: So this is effectively her birthday message to herself, celebrating
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Speaker 2: the woman behind it all.
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Speaker 1: She pours her heart, vision and magic touch into every.
47:58
Speaker 2: Detail, including this post, of course, and today we raise
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Speaker 2: a glass to her. Happy birthday to our founder, Megan Markle,
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Speaker 2: former Princess White Hand of the Royal family, whatever else
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Speaker 2: she gets up to. So I want to give you
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Speaker 2: each other opportunity to wish her a happy birthday. What
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Speaker 2: would you say to the Princess Stephen.
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Speaker 4: Well, I would say, happy birthday, Duchess of Montesido. This
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Speaker 4: is an absolute master stroke. Something had to be done
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Speaker 4: to draw attention away from the fact that your husband's
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Speaker 4: been punching on with his uncle.
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Speaker 1: And Susie.
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Speaker 16: Oh, I just I can't even try and beat that.
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Speaker 16: Our happy birthday to the Duchess of Dodgy, and I
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Speaker 16: note that she's still celebrating the fact that we should
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Speaker 16: be cutting cheese into star shaped slices before we one.
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Speaker 2: Of her great recipes, but one of her great kitchen tips.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Susie and Stephen Gee, we'll catch
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Speaker 2: you next week.
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Speaker 1: We're just about out of time.
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Speaker 2: I just want to let you know I asked you
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Speaker 2: to an email in if you want to buy into
49:04
Speaker 2: the Israel debate and say something positive about Israel and
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Speaker 2: the Jewish Australian community.
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Speaker 1: Well Canny Report.
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Speaker 2: At skynews dot com dot au is the email address,
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Speaker 2: and we've already had hundreds of emails and they're overwhelmingly positive.
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Speaker 1: So I'll share some of those with you and the
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Speaker 1: rest of the country tomorrow night. Here's Steve Price with Kredlin.