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Matchups to Watch vs. Panthers | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December twenty eighth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the Saint John's River Water
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Speaker 1: than to just sit around the house late at night
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Speaker 1: waiting for the ball to drop.
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Speaker 2: JA p check and welcome man. It is Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 2: Hour on this Thursday, December twenty eighth. We've got two
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Speaker 2: hours of Jaguars football ahead coming up. It's Week seventeen,
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Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Jaguars coming up here at the Bank,
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Speaker 2: the final home game of the regular season. The Jaguars
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Speaker 2: on the brink of something, either the playoffs or watching
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Speaker 2: them on TV. They're trying to sap the slide, a
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Speaker 2: four game losing skid for the Jags. We'll hear from
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Speaker 2: the head coach, Doug Peterson, joining us in studio at
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Speaker 2: five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network for the Doug
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Speaker 2: Peterson Show. We'll get his thoughts on everything going on
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Speaker 2: this week, of course, and we'll also hear from Fred Taylor.
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Speaker 2: I caught up with him earlier today. He is a
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Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame finalist for the first time
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Speaker 2: for the class of twenty twenty four. We'll hear his
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Speaker 2: reaction to hearing the news and how you found out
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Speaker 2: a lot of text messages for Fred. That's coming up
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Speaker 2: and visitjjvision dot com. Jeff Logiman with me here in
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Speaker 2: studio at the Miller Electric Center. Good afternoon, Good afternoon, JP.
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Speaker 2: How the heck are you? I'm doing good man. It's
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Speaker 2: the holiday season. Yeah, that's the good thing. You act
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Speaker 2: like that. That's the only good. There's not a lot
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Speaker 2: of cheer around here. I'm much. I'm not sensing any
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Speaker 2: optimism in your voice, JAP. I mean, come on, man,
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Speaker 2: I mean it's first place in the AFC South. Two
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Speaker 2: games to go, big game at home against the fellow
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Speaker 2: expansion team, Carolina Panthers. That's the worst team in foot Yes,
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Speaker 2: I like our chances. Yes, I like it. Okay, well,
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Speaker 2: I mean on paper, yes, sure you should play well
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Speaker 2: against this team. However, they aren't played on paper last
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Speaker 2: I checked, and they are played on the grass. And
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Speaker 2: in the last month, the Jaguars on the grass have
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Speaker 2: been bad. It hasn't been good. And if they don't
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Speaker 2: fix the amount of giveaways that they're allowing teams to get,
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Speaker 2: then it's going to be a tough game to play
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Speaker 2: against the Carolina Panthers. In the four game losing streak,
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Speaker 2: you've given the ball away ten times and if you
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Speaker 2: want to look to reason number one that's at the
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Speaker 2: top of the list, you can't turn the ball over
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Speaker 2: that much and expect to win. It just is just
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Speaker 2: not going to happen. And that it continued this pass game.
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Speaker 2: An interception early in the Supposedly there was a lack
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Speaker 2: of communication on that play. I don't know if it
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Speaker 2: actually impacted or was the cause of the interception. I
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Speaker 2: don't believe it was. But then you ended up having
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Speaker 2: three more in the course of the game, three more giveaways.
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Speaker 2: You know, I had a fumble and a fumble by
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Speaker 2: trusted guy. Have an Ingram can't do that. Nope. I
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Speaker 2: had another interception on an overthrown ball. Try to get
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Speaker 2: out of an ingram across the middle. You had a fumble
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Speaker 2: buy Trevor Lawrence in the pocket. He tried to pull
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Speaker 2: the ball back in for some reason, and I don't
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Speaker 2: know why, because the throw was there. He should have
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Speaker 2: just let the ball go to Tim Jones who was
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Speaker 2: running a little crossing route. But that's the disappointing thing
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Speaker 2: is that you're turning the ball over as an offense,
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Speaker 2: and defensively you get the impression that that sucks the
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Speaker 2: energy out of that side of the ball too. And
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Speaker 2: they can't let the energy on the offense or the
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Speaker 2: performance of the offense impact their performance. Health of the
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Speaker 2: quarterback is also a priority this week right ac joint
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Speaker 2: sprain and his rowing shoulder, and that hurts. He is
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Speaker 2: not practiced, at least in the public time today the media.
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Speaker 2: Do you ever have one of them? I don't know
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Speaker 2: I have. I haven't had a diagnose. I guess I
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Speaker 2: can tell you it happened. It was in the meadowlands
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Speaker 2: and I was coming in on the quarterback and had
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Speaker 2: to dive over a one of our one of my
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Speaker 2: fellow defensive linemen, and I dove over landed them on
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Speaker 2: my arm, very similar to how Trevor did. And I
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Speaker 2: want to say it was like a grade two sprained
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Speaker 2: ac joint whatever you want to call it. Extremely painful.
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Speaker 2: I mean extremely painful. I mean he could even barely
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Speaker 2: lift your arm to put your Jodurn on after the game,
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Speaker 2: and I kept playing, but I mean I had to,
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Speaker 2: you know, I had to shoot it up every week,
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Speaker 2: you know, so shooting up, shooting up, shooting up, and
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Speaker 2: it got worse to the point at the end of
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Speaker 2: the season I had to go in and have a
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Speaker 2: surgery on that ac joint. And the dude what they
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Speaker 2: call an ac resection, which they basically golmos saw and
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Speaker 2: cut the end of your collar bone off in that joint.
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Speaker 2: I guess to create more space. That sounds pleasant. So
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Speaker 2: for a quarterback, this is gonna be a And I
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Speaker 2: don't know what grade he has. I know there's one
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Speaker 2: grade one, Grade two, Grade three, three is obviously the worst.
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Speaker 2: One is the least. I don't know where his his
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Speaker 2: ac sprain falls in the category, but I can tell you,
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Speaker 2: just like a pitcher, a quarterback has to have all
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Speaker 2: components of the mechanical system working to be accurate. And
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Speaker 2: if a fingernail is a little off, or you got
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Speaker 2: a little spraying of a finger on the throwing arm
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Speaker 2: or the shoulder, it's gonna be tough to play. So
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Speaker 2: this is you know, this is not an ankle, This
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Speaker 2: is not a knee where you can maybe gut it
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Speaker 2: out a little bit, brace it up, tape it up
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Speaker 2: kind of a thing. Because this is directly related to
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Speaker 2: throwing the football, and I mean the other part of
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Speaker 2: throwing mechanics in baseball. If something in your throwing arm
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Speaker 2: or motion is hurt, then you have the tendency at
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Speaker 2: times to overcompensate and you can hurt some other things
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Speaker 2: in the throwing motion. You could lower extremity right or
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Speaker 2: something that has happened, especially in pitching in baseball, that
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Speaker 2: could happen as well. And here's the thing that I
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Speaker 2: worry about is this offense has become so quarterback, passing
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Speaker 2: centric focused, whatever you want to call it. This is
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Speaker 2: not a good place to be. Okay, you're not performing
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Speaker 2: well on offense, you're not scoring a lot of points
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Speaker 2: in the last two ball games. Your quarterback has a shoulder,
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Speaker 2: your offense has been throwing the football constantly. You're not
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Speaker 2: running the ball well. Your offensive line needs to perform
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Speaker 2: better and run blocking and pass protection. It's not a
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Speaker 2: good place to be. So I don't know what's going
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Speaker 2: to happen, but I can tell you. I can tell
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Speaker 2: you this. Look, you got the worst team in football
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Speaker 2: coming in here, the worst team in football, with a
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Speaker 2: young quarterback who has a long ways to go to
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Speaker 2: get better to make his team competitive. And this is
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Speaker 2: also again I brought this up before. This is your expansion.
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Speaker 1: Brother.
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Speaker 2: You're at home with everything on the line. If you
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Speaker 2: lose this game, you could be out of the playoffs. Again,
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Speaker 2: if you lose this game, you could be out of
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. The percentages go the wrong way in a hurry.
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Speaker 2: If you lose this one and I can't be eliminated
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Speaker 2: this weekend, you cannot be alimited. Cannot be eliminated. But
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Speaker 2: you can. However, you can make it really hard exactly
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Speaker 2: because if you lose and then Indianapolis and Houston win,
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Speaker 2: your chances just go sh I mean, is pretty much
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Speaker 2: done because they play each other next week, and that's
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Speaker 2: the best chance to get in the playoffs. Obviously, is
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Speaker 2: winning the division, So then it's down to that. Now
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Speaker 2: the other part of it is if you win and
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Speaker 2: they both lose, the Jags are handing out hats and
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Speaker 2: shirts after the game division champs. Correct, they can clinch, Yes,
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Speaker 2: so it could go from one extreet to the other.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot riding on this ball game. It's a
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Speaker 2: lot riding on his bagame and the other games. If
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Speaker 2: you look and who does Indianapolis have a Raiders? Okay,
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Speaker 2: they got the Raiders at Indianapolis and Houston is at
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Speaker 2: home against Tennessee. Okay, so that's two big ball games.
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Speaker 2: Then they're all going to be happening that same time.
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Speaker 2: They're all Sunday one o'clock, Kip, Yes they are. And
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Speaker 2: then the last week Houston is at Indianapolis for the
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Speaker 2: final matchup. So this is I mean the league has
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Speaker 2: designed the schedule to have these divisional games at the
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Speaker 2: end of the season for a reason. And is it
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Speaker 2: not pure genius because it could come down to the
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Speaker 2: last week of the season. Oh yeah, did last year? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: with Jeff Logoman five o'clock will have the Doug Peterson
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Speaker 2: Show in here from the Jaguars head coach. Well, you
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Speaker 2: know we're talking a lot about the offense. Let's continue there.
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Speaker 2: Cam Robinson back on the practice field this week. The
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Speaker 2: left tackle. He missed, of course, four games early in
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Speaker 2: the season with the suspension PD suspension and has been
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Speaker 2: back and then out and now he's back on the
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Speaker 2: practice field this week. The head a knee, right, that's right,
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Speaker 2: I had a knee. You know. It just there's been
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Speaker 2: a revolving left side of the offensive line. Well, it's
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Speaker 2: been the most consistent and the most successful when Cam
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Speaker 2: Robinson has been on the field. Well, the record says,
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Speaker 2: so I think they'll have one loss when he's been
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Speaker 2: in the lineup, which is amazing. But let's kind of
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Speaker 2: focus in just for a second here before we talk
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Speaker 2: about Cam about where they're at right now in this
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Speaker 2: offensive line as far as on the left side, because
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Speaker 2: Walker Little has played and he's playing hurt, and if
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Speaker 2: you watch the film, you can see that the hamstring
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Speaker 2: is not one hundred percent yet. Okay, and give him credit.
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Speaker 2: He's gotten it out. Okay, So you give a player
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Speaker 2: credit for playing hurt because availability is everything. At left guard.
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Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland has been playing the last two weeks and
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Speaker 2: you can see that he's kind of playing like a
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Speaker 2: peg leg. He's playing hurt. So can they get better
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Speaker 2: this week? To say, okay, look, you know, Cam, you've
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Speaker 2: got another week to kind of get back up to speed.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that we'll see, but Ken, if those
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Speaker 2: guys are not going to be better this week, when
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Speaker 2: I say those guys, both Walker and Ezra, okay, can
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Speaker 2: you do something different there? I don't know. Or if
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Speaker 2: let's say Ezra's still bad and Walker Little's getting better
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Speaker 2: and Cam's available, can Walker go to guard and then
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Speaker 2: Cam play left tackle. I think there's some options there,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going to happen exactly, but
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Speaker 2: I think if you can get some of Cam's energy,
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Speaker 2: if he has that energy, Okay, when I say the
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Speaker 2: energy because you're not going to have energy unless you
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Speaker 2: feel good. If he feels good and he has his energy,
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Speaker 2: he helps his football team right away. And I think
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Speaker 2: that he will play left tackle. And then you would say, okay,
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Speaker 2: now what do we do? What do we do at
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Speaker 2: left guard? If if Ezra's not healthy and he's still
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Speaker 2: peg legging around, is Walker healthy enough to play guard? Well? Maybe? Okay,
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Speaker 2: maybe not. Maybe maybe Ezra's better than Walker this week,
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Speaker 2: and Ezra stays at guard, so I don't know, but
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Speaker 2: maybe they're both dinged up still and enough to sit him.
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Speaker 2: And here comes Tyler Shatley in the full I mean
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of options. There's plenty of options. Or
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Speaker 2: Blake Hands, I mean there's there, there is options there.
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Speaker 2: But here we go again. Okay, because last week Doug
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Speaker 2: talked about the lack of continuity with the offensive line
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Speaker 2: contributing to the lack of performance. Well, here we go again, right,
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Speaker 2: this is another change, and do they get better with
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Speaker 2: this change? And that remains to be seen, but I
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Speaker 2: can tell you this. They they need to play better upfront.
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Speaker 2: They need to start being not so quarterback dependent, especially
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Speaker 2: if Trevor Lawrence is not playing and we'll see what happens.
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Speaker 2: But where's ETN at? Okay, how many rushing attempts did
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Speaker 2: they have last week? I'm looking at the board. Not good.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at ETN had six carries in that ball game.
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Speaker 2: Six carries? Good? You know, Tank big bigsby zero the
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Speaker 2: arnest Johnson had won. Okay on a game in which
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Speaker 2: your quarterback didn't even practice until Friday. Is that the
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Speaker 2: recipe for success? Probably not? Yeah, running backs had seven
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Speaker 2: carries in the game against Tampa. It didn't help that
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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay came out and scored on every meaningful possession
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Speaker 2: in the first half, and then also the first two
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Speaker 2: possessions of the second Halding right out of the game.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they had what a thirteen play drive to
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Speaker 2: start the game, right right down the field. It was
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Speaker 2: a three fourteen play sixteen nine yard drive the field goal.
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Speaker 2: They were three or four and third downs. They kept
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Speaker 2: it going and they ran the clock and they got
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Speaker 2: a field goal. Okay, Well nothing after that for the Jacks. Well,
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Speaker 2: and here's here's the hard part. Let's say you want
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Speaker 2: to come out okay and hypothetical here, Okay, Trevor can't
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Speaker 2: throw the ball well or you got a backup quarterback
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Speaker 2: in the game and CJ. Bethart, Well, what's the first
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Speaker 2: thing that you would like to do? Ignoring past performance
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Speaker 2: and numbers and everything else, what would you like to do?
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Speaker 2: I'd like to run. I like to run the ball
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Speaker 2: a little bit right, probably run. Okay, So let's say
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Speaker 2: that you are going to come out and take We're
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Speaker 2: going to run the ball. We're gonna be committed to
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Speaker 2: the wrong running the ball. What what gives you confidence
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Speaker 2: that you can right now? Not a whole lot? That's
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Speaker 2: the point. Can you reverse the results in the commitment
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Speaker 2: of running the football? And what are we week sixteen,
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Speaker 2: seventeen seventeen. Can you change it in week seventeen? Can
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Speaker 2: you change the way that you play in one week
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Speaker 2: in week seventeen? That's hard to do. That's very hard
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Speaker 2: to do. And here's the other thing. Last time I checked,
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Speaker 2: there was a dude that's wearing number ninety five for
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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers on the other side of the ball. Okay,
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Speaker 2: last name is Brown. Okay, Derek from Auburn. It should
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Speaker 2: be Superman across the back of the name plate because
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Speaker 2: the dude is something else. Okay, Derek Brown who is
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Speaker 2: fromat the Great School School of Auburn. He was a
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Speaker 2: first round draft pick back in twenty twenty. This guy
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Speaker 2: is super strong. He is the best interior run defender
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Speaker 2: that I have watched on film all year, hands down.
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Speaker 2: So they've got their hands full, and one guy in
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Speaker 2: particular who's got his hands full, and that's Brandon Sheriff,
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Speaker 2: because Derek Brown doesn't flop size JP. Derek. Remember back
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Speaker 2: in the in the days when the Jaguars had Henderson
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Speaker 2: and Stroud two studs. Those guys played left and right.
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Speaker 2: They didn't flip flop. They It wasn't like ones of
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Speaker 2: nose tackle and the others a three technique and they're
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Speaker 2: gonna flip based on strength, call or anything of that nature. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I believe it was Stroud on the left, Henderson on
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Speaker 2: the right. That's how it was gonna be. Well this week,
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Speaker 2: Derek Brown is gonna be on the defensive left side,
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Speaker 2: so he's gonna be on top of Sheriff, might be
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Speaker 2: a little bit over to the inside shoulder of Anton Harrison,
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Speaker 2: and then he's probably gonna see a little bit of
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Speaker 2: the center. And this is gonna be a tremendous battle.
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Speaker 2: If I'm the network. I'm putting a camera on that
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Speaker 2: guy and see how he does against Luke Fortner and
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Speaker 2: Brandon Sheriff, because this is the guy that can wreck
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Speaker 2: a day. We're on ten to XCEL ninety two point
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Speaker 2: five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. It's not really
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Speaker 2: confidence building right there. Well, I'm not saying it's not possible.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the challenge is large. You know,
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Speaker 2: Carolina is a top five defense and one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons why the rank so high. A lot of people say, oh,
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Speaker 2: how can they be ranked high. Their offense doesn't score
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Speaker 2: a lot of points, so a lot of teams aren't
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Speaker 2: exactly aggressive with their defense. We'll get to that offense
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Speaker 2: for the Panthers when we come back. How the Jaguars
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Speaker 3: That where where you feel or you come away with,
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Speaker 3: you know, a feeling that that you know a team,
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Speaker 3: you know they were they were playing for the same
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Speaker 3: things that we were playing for, right.
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Speaker 4: And they did everything they needed to do to win
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Speaker 4: the game, and we didn't. But yeah, you know, you
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Speaker 4: lean on the leadership council, the leaders of your team,
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Speaker 4: lean on the coaches more and you know, just just
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Speaker 4: lock in and focus during the week and then prepare
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Speaker 4: for another game this Sunday.
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Speaker 2: That's Doug Peterson, of course, Jaguars head coach earlier this week,
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Speaker 2: and welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you
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Speaker 2: It's worth saving. JP Shadick with Jeff Logoman Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 2: Hour on ten TOXL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars
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Speaker 2: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube as well. A lot of folks
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Speaker 2: in town this weekend for the Gator Bowl Clemson Kentucky.
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Speaker 2: Correct I saw tomorrow. I saw some Kentucky and Clemson
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Speaker 2: folks walking around out. Yeah, earlier today, plenty of it.
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Speaker 2: It should be a nice matchup. And of course the
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Speaker 2: Panthers Jaguars game coming up Sunday as well here at
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Speaker 2: the Bank, the final Jaguars home game of the regular season,
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Speaker 2: and the Panthers roll in here with just an awful record,
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Speaker 2: but they played a solid game last week against the
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Speaker 2: Packers and the best game I think of the year
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Speaker 2: for Bryce Young, the number one overall pick out of
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Speaker 2: Alabama and a guy who's been beat up and battered
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Speaker 2: and knocked around in his rookie year. And you know what,
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Speaker 2: they got to win a couple of weeks ago against
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Speaker 2: Atlanta in sloppy conditions like nine to seven or something,
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Speaker 2: and then they come and play hard against the Packers
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Speaker 2: last week. So all right, they're still out there, They're
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Speaker 2: still slinging it around, and you'd give Bryce Young enough time,
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Speaker 2: he's gonna carve you up a little. Well, I don't
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Speaker 2: know about that. I wouldn't got the ability. I wouldn't
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Speaker 2: go that for number one pick. I wouldn't go that far.
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Speaker 2: He's been like him no, well, I mean I like
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Speaker 2: him eventually, but the reality is is that his performance
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Speaker 2: all year long has been lacking. I mean, there's a
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Speaker 2: reason why Frank Wright got fired. It wasn't because Bryce
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Speaker 2: Young was great. It was because Bryce Young wasn't looking
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Speaker 2: very good. And the guy that was picked down in
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Speaker 2: Houston is looking good. True, and he's back today, by
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Speaker 2: the way, off concussion protocol.
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Speaker 5: C J.
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Speaker 2: Stroud you're talking about, yeah, and look, Bryce Young is
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Speaker 2: in JP. I'm not trying to criticize him, just trying
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Speaker 2: to be honest. His performance this year has not been great.
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Speaker 2: He's a small statued quarterback that has been struggling. That's
19:24
Speaker 2: just a fact. And this past game was his best
19:27
Speaker 2: game as a pro. He had around one hundred and
19:30
Speaker 2: ten quarterback rating, which is very solid, and he put
19:34
Speaker 2: up thirty points, which was a season high for Carolina.
19:37
Speaker 2: But the reality is they're scoring about fifteen points a game, okay,
19:41
Speaker 2: And a lot of the points that they're scoring has
19:43
Speaker 2: been at the end of all games where they're just
19:45
Speaker 2: playing catch up and the opponent has been up on them.
19:48
Speaker 2: And so how many points have they scored in a
19:52
Speaker 2: meaningful moment of the game, I don't know. But if
19:55
Speaker 2: the Jaguars get up early on Carolina, it would do
19:59
Speaker 2: two things. One, I think it would give this football
20:02
Speaker 2: team a little positive encouragement of where they are and
20:05
Speaker 2: what they're doing, which I think is critical. They need that,
20:08
Speaker 2: especially when you've lost four games in a row. But
20:12
Speaker 2: it would also allow some doubt to creep into the
20:15
Speaker 2: minds of the Carolina Panthers, who, by the way, have
20:17
Speaker 2: already probably starting to pack up their stuff. For the
20:20
Speaker 2: all season, So fast Art is going to be imperative
20:25
Speaker 2: in this ball game, and Carolina has not been particularly
20:29
Speaker 2: good in the first quarter of ball games this year.
20:32
Speaker 2: They've scored an average of like two point four to
20:35
Speaker 2: six points a game in their first quarter. Okay, so
20:39
Speaker 2: if you're the Jaguars, you've got to come out and
20:42
Speaker 2: try to get on the board quick to give yourself
20:45
Speaker 2: that encouragement and to give them a little bit of anxiety.
20:49
Speaker 2: Is this one defensively for the Jaguars? Do you pressure them?
20:53
Speaker 2: Do you play normal? I mean, how do you attack
20:57
Speaker 2: the Panthers offense if you're the Jags defense? In might Caldwell, Well,
21:01
Speaker 2: I think first and foremost you look at the quarterback
21:03
Speaker 2: and then you look at his weapons. Last week with
21:06
Speaker 2: Mike Evans and Godwin Godwin, two legit dogs. I mean
21:12
Speaker 2: I'm talking good players, arguably one of the best tantems
21:16
Speaker 2: in the National Football League. Okay, this week, does DJ
21:21
Speaker 2: Chark and Adam Thielen rank up there somewhere around Mike
21:25
Speaker 2: Evans and Godwin. No, No, we don't really strike fear. However,
21:29
Speaker 2: Chark will have a little extra something this week. I mean,
21:32
Speaker 2: it's been it's been kind of number of years since
21:35
Speaker 2: he's been here. I think that's probably faded a little bit. Anyway,
21:38
Speaker 2: he's just trying to perform well to have a job
21:41
Speaker 2: for next year. So I think you can pressure a
21:46
Speaker 2: young quarterback in this situation because his ability to get
21:50
Speaker 2: rid of the ball in a timely fashion has not
21:52
Speaker 2: shown to be there. And the receivers that he has
21:55
Speaker 2: don't scare you. So but here's the other thing. You
21:59
Speaker 2: got some issues that you need to clean up a
22:01
Speaker 2: little bit as well. Okay, last time I checked. Okay,
22:04
Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell did have a great game this past week.
22:06
Speaker 2: Didn't finish the game. Didn't finish the game for some reason.
22:11
Speaker 2: Is it maybe letting him get rested up for the
22:14
Speaker 2: never week? Whatever it was, he wasn't on the field.
22:16
Speaker 2: What the end of the game. What I saw, Mike
22:19
Speaker 2: Evans took him to school a little bit, okay, And
22:23
Speaker 2: if you're getting taken to school, then you need to
22:25
Speaker 2: come home. Okay. So I think Tyson was taken out
22:31
Speaker 2: of that ball game because of that. Well, let's see
22:35
Speaker 2: if he can get a little bit better this week.
22:37
Speaker 2: It's been it's been a while since he's played. He's
22:39
Speaker 2: had soft tissue injuries with hamstring and the quad, and
22:43
Speaker 2: that's not easy to come back from. I'm not trying
22:45
Speaker 2: to make light of a situation. If the players get injured,
22:48
Speaker 2: it's not easy to come back, especially at that position.
22:51
Speaker 2: You're on an island and you need to have your wheels,
22:53
Speaker 2: and if your wheels ain't running, sometimes it's hard to perform.
22:57
Speaker 2: Darius Williams on the other side, I got complete confidence
22:59
Speaker 2: in him. I think playing pretty well, one of the
23:01
Speaker 2: better corners in the league, and so you can match
23:04
Speaker 2: up with this Carolina team pretty good. So, yes, you
23:07
Speaker 2: can bring pressure and affect a young quarterback in Bryce Young,
23:10
Speaker 2: and I expect them to. I don't expect them to
23:12
Speaker 2: do it all the time because that's just not how
23:14
Speaker 2: this team. They can't do that. But I will say
23:18
Speaker 2: that this the interier of the Jaguars defensive line has
23:23
Speaker 2: been lacking all season long in productivity of affecting the passer.
23:31
Speaker 2: That's got to change this week. And here's why I
23:33
Speaker 2: say that. The center and the two guards for the
23:36
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers are not great. Again, I'm repeat this, The
23:41
Speaker 2: center and the two guards for the Carolina Panthers are
23:44
Speaker 2: not great. Okay, you need to win at that positions
23:50
Speaker 2: or those positions you've gotta win. The right guards for
23:53
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers, Nash Jensen, a rookie from North Dakota State,
23:59
Speaker 2: started like the past three or four games for them.
24:02
Speaker 2: I would bench the coach that said that he's gonna start. Wow,
24:05
Speaker 2: he's been that. He was that bad aggressive. The center
24:08
Speaker 2: for the Carolina Panthers Bozeman, Now, look, I know he's
24:11
Speaker 2: an Alabama guy. JP. I don't want to get your
24:13
Speaker 2: feelings hurt. Care you sure, yeah, I don't care. He's
24:16
Speaker 2: not very good, Okay, okay. The left guard cade Mace
24:21
Speaker 2: not very good. Wow, that's Tackles are okay, Okay, tackles
24:26
Speaker 2: are okay, uh Ikwanu. And then at right tackle Moten
24:30
Speaker 2: pretty good players, not great players, but good players, solid players.
24:33
Speaker 2: But the inside and that's where you got to. You
24:37
Speaker 2: gotta belly up to the bar and get get some food.
24:40
Speaker 2: But we can't eat who he counting on in the interior?
24:42
Speaker 2: Roy Robertson here, where's Roy at fully? Fighter? Got to
24:46
Speaker 2: see on chests? Right? Yeah, come on, see fully fight
24:49
Speaker 2: of see step it up, Devon Hamilton, step it up.
24:53
Speaker 2: Hadn't been playing very well. I know, coach said he
24:56
Speaker 2: played a little bit better, but I mean, look, the
24:58
Speaker 2: reality is that a little bit better not where he
25:00
Speaker 2: needs to be. You know, he's still trying to fight
25:03
Speaker 2: back from entry. But I mean those guys, the guys
25:06
Speaker 2: that you mentioned, they've got a step up. Okay, because
25:10
Speaker 2: here's how it works. When you get into critical moments,
25:13
Speaker 2: you're a players the players that you've you've paid money to. Okay,
25:17
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's about the money, but when you
25:19
Speaker 2: get paid to football, yes, what it is, you're paid
25:21
Speaker 2: to perform. When you have big moments, big games, your
25:26
Speaker 2: top players need to perform like top players. And that's
25:31
Speaker 2: not asking too much. Put Josh Allen in that mix too.
25:35
Speaker 2: I mean, he just kind of got stifled last week.
25:37
Speaker 2: He had one tackle in the game. Tristan Wurfs handled him.
25:41
Speaker 2: And he hasn't had a sack since Week thirteen. And
25:44
Speaker 2: he's still a sack away from tying Kalais Campbell's single
25:47
Speaker 2: season sack record for the Jacks. He's alan Is at
25:50
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half. The record is fourteen and a half.
25:52
Speaker 2: And I got to finish this season strong on a
25:55
Speaker 2: great note here, and I'm not breaking the record at home.
25:58
Speaker 2: He's had a fantastic season and to finish it off
26:01
Speaker 2: the right way the last two weeks would be big
26:03
Speaker 2: for him. Love to see him get to this team
26:05
Speaker 2: get the season sack record at home in front of
26:07
Speaker 2: the home fans. But you know, on defense, he's probably
26:11
Speaker 2: the number one of those guys is your he is
26:14
Speaker 2: your top dog. He's got no tops game. I don't
26:17
Speaker 2: care how good the tach top dog and look I'm
26:20
Speaker 2: not I'm not trying to criticize him for his performance
26:23
Speaker 2: last week because he's been the one guy that week
26:25
Speaker 2: in and week out you have been able to depend on,
26:28
Speaker 2: and sometimes the guy on the other side of the ball.
26:30
Speaker 2: He gets paid pretty well too. And Tristan Worse, by
26:34
Speaker 2: the way, is one of the best left tackles in football.
26:39
Speaker 2: He's really good, really good football player. And Josh typically
26:43
Speaker 2: has a lot of a lot of power and affecting
26:46
Speaker 2: the pocket kind of that speed to power where he's
26:48
Speaker 2: got inside power. Tristan Worse shut it down. Tristan Worse
26:53
Speaker 2: shut it down. Wan'll be that game wrecord. This is
26:55
Speaker 2: a game to this to wreck right here, Okay, ninety
26:59
Speaker 2: five forty one. Want to make sure I get all
27:02
Speaker 2: these numbers, right, ninety four, twenty three, thirty two, okay,
27:08
Speaker 2: thirty one. All these guys on defense, okay, that are
27:12
Speaker 2: your A players. Gotta play well, gotta play like A players.
27:17
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27:22
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28:05
Speaker 5: And they have the blessed to where I do he
28:06
Speaker 5: a little, you know, quicker maybe than some people. And
28:09
Speaker 5: then just you know, our training staff does a great job.
28:11
Speaker 5: Our medical team, I think we have great plans for
28:15
Speaker 5: coming back and you know, being able to get back quickly.
28:19
Speaker 5: I think they've done a great job of just you know,
28:21
Speaker 5: taking me through different protocols and strengthening whatever it is, treatment,
28:25
Speaker 5: strengthening all those things to stay on top of it.
28:28
Speaker 5: I think that's part of it too, is preparing your
28:30
Speaker 5: body a certain way to where you limit injuries, but
28:34
Speaker 5: when they do come up, you kind of minimize them.
28:36
Speaker 5: So I think it's a mixture of all those things.
28:39
Speaker 2: That's the quarterback of course. Trevor Lawrence earlier this week
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Speaker 2: the Bank Fan Appreciation Game. What are going on during
28:59
Speaker 2: the game, We'll see if Trevor Lawrence is out there
29:02
Speaker 2: on the field. No word as of yet, but has
29:06
Speaker 2: not been out there at least in the open portions
29:08
Speaker 2: of practice this week. The full injury report coming up
29:11
Speaker 2: in just a little bit. Kay Stevens joining us in
29:13
Speaker 2: studio now here on ten TOEXXL ninety two point five FM,
29:15
Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, We are all the places. Kai,
29:19
Speaker 2: good afternoon, all of them. Nice to see you, Yeah,
29:21
Speaker 2: nice to see you too. And let's see if we'll
29:24
Speaker 2: see Trevor Lawrence. That's priority number one.
29:27
Speaker 6: I know this one feels a little bit different, at
29:29
Speaker 6: least to me, just obviously it's just throwing shoulder, right,
29:32
Speaker 6: and with everything we've seen so far in terms of
29:36
Speaker 6: just what he's been dealing with with the injuries, I
29:38
Speaker 6: think at least this one just doesn't quite It's different, right,
29:43
Speaker 6: it's your career at your throwing shoulder. You have to
29:45
Speaker 6: be careful with that sort of thing. And what we've
29:47
Speaker 6: seen in terms of him not doing great when he
29:50
Speaker 6: doesn't practice, he's just not There's a lot of people
29:53
Speaker 6: that need to be involved physically doing it. You can
29:56
Speaker 6: be there and see it, but if you're not the
29:57
Speaker 6: one doing it. And what we've seen from him so far,
30:00
Speaker 6: I think he's someone that really benefits from getting those
30:01
Speaker 6: reps in practice, and we've seen the disconnect when he
30:04
Speaker 6: does not practice.
30:05
Speaker 2: Reps are everything. I mean, he's still a young quarterback
30:08
Speaker 2: and sometimes we forget that. And here's the other thing.
30:13
Speaker 2: His receivers are young too.
30:14
Speaker 6: Yep.
30:15
Speaker 2: So if you've got a quarterback who, let's say, is
30:18
Speaker 2: in your eight, nine, ten. Okay, if he misses a
30:23
Speaker 2: little practice time, not that big of a deal. But
30:26
Speaker 2: Trevor twenty four years old, Y're three, you're two in
30:30
Speaker 2: the system. Those reps are still incredibly important, especially with
30:34
Speaker 2: receivers that he hasn't had a lot of reps with. Yeah,
30:36
Speaker 2: I mean, Ridley's twenty nine. But you know, time on
30:40
Speaker 2: task is not as you know, he's been out for
30:42
Speaker 2: a couple of years, and then this season is you know,
30:45
Speaker 2: trying to get things going and without him on the field,
30:48
Speaker 2: together a lot on the practice field, then it a
30:50
Speaker 2: lot of times doesn't translate to the game, whether it's
30:53
Speaker 2: a route, whether it's the timing of a throw, just
30:56
Speaker 2: little nuances of this offense. It's hard to show up
31:00
Speaker 2: on game bay and then all of a sudden they
31:01
Speaker 2: disappear on game day. They might have gone well when
31:03
Speaker 2: they've had a chance to practice, and that's the other concern,
31:06
Speaker 2: is that they aren't making it to the game field.
31:09
Speaker 6: Cut I think sometimes we forget, or at least the
31:11
Speaker 6: last month or so, we've been caught up in that
31:12
Speaker 6: losing streak and kind of the mentality of all that.
31:14
Speaker 6: But like, even when the team was winning, we were
31:16
Speaker 6: constantly saying, Oh, the offense is gonna get there, Like
31:18
Speaker 6: they're gonna get there at some point. We never really
31:20
Speaker 6: saw them fully functioning, full blast, great running game, a
31:25
Speaker 6: good game from Trevor wi Like, we never saw what
31:28
Speaker 6: we were hoping to see in the preseason. So now
31:31
Speaker 6: that they've gotten off task and they've lost four games
31:33
Speaker 6: in a row, it's even more blatant that they had
31:36
Speaker 6: to figure that out and they never really did so.
31:38
Speaker 6: Now without that and then without your quarterback practicing, I
31:41
Speaker 6: think that that is an issue there. That's why sometimes
31:44
Speaker 6: I think I feel like the CG. Bethor might be
31:47
Speaker 6: a little bit better for you this week. I don't
31:49
Speaker 6: know if he will end up playing or not. I'm
31:50
Speaker 6: sure they'll make that decision on Sunday, but he has
31:53
Speaker 6: a lot of reps with a lot of the players
31:55
Speaker 6: that you're relying on at this point right the Parker
31:57
Speaker 6: Washington's of the world. He has a decent connection with
31:59
Speaker 6: rid from when they've been practicing. You know, Tim Jones,
32:03
Speaker 6: whoever's gonna be out there, he always is doing reps
32:06
Speaker 6: with them anyway, And now that they're all on first
32:08
Speaker 6: team they're doing reps of course this week, so I
32:10
Speaker 6: feel like that might be the best chance for you
32:12
Speaker 6: this weekend. But obviously, if Trevor can go, he will go.
32:15
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
32:19
Speaker 6: This one feels a little different. And maybe I say
32:20
Speaker 6: this every time that he gets hurt, but this one
32:22
Speaker 6: feels a little I thought.
32:24
Speaker 2: It was different going back. Okay, he had the knee,
32:27
Speaker 2: and Okay, when he had the knee, I'm like, yeah,
32:29
Speaker 2: he probably will be okay, okay, but then the ankle,
32:32
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think he's gonna play well. Now,
32:36
Speaker 2: this is this I think is even more different than
32:39
Speaker 2: the ankle, just because it's a it's a throwing shoulder.
32:43
Speaker 2: So I don't know how this is gonna play out.
32:47
Speaker 2: I do know one thing. If I'm the offensive line
32:50
Speaker 2: coach and I'm the offensive coordinator, I'm developing a game
32:53
Speaker 2: plan that's gonna be more focused on the big guys
32:57
Speaker 2: upfront doing better running the football to take the pressure
33:01
Speaker 2: whoever's playing take the pressure off of whoever's playing quarterback.
33:04
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of in agreement with Kai, and then
33:08
Speaker 2: I think, you know, maybe you could be a little
33:09
Speaker 2: bit better with CJ. And the reason I say that
33:11
Speaker 2: if he's taken the reps and Trevor's had knee, ankle, shoulder.
33:15
Speaker 6: Now and cannot be exactly right, I can't.
33:19
Speaker 2: Expect him to be Superman. I mean that the guy
33:22
Speaker 2: for Carolina that's got ninety five, he's Superman. Trevor's not Superman.
33:26
Speaker 2: So this is this is going to be an interesting week,
33:30
Speaker 2: I think. And how do the Carolina Panthers approach it?
33:33
Speaker 2: How how do they view this? Do they prepare or
33:37
Speaker 2: are they preparing for Trevor? Or are they preparing for CJ?
33:40
Speaker 2: Or do they just say, you know what, we're just
33:42
Speaker 2: preparing for their offense. I don't know. It'll be interesting, yeah,
33:45
Speaker 2: because at some point, you know, Beth, can he make
33:49
Speaker 2: the same kind of throws that Trevor could make in
33:52
Speaker 2: this offense if called upon? There's probably some that he
33:56
Speaker 2: is limited on. Let's put it that way, right, But
33:58
Speaker 2: do you need him this week?
33:59
Speaker 6: Necessary?
34:00
Speaker 2: Right? Is this the week where you can pair it
34:02
Speaker 2: down and run the ball botch or hey, if all
34:06
Speaker 2: of a sudden Carolina is up fourteen and then that
34:09
Speaker 2: goes out the window again. Well, look, here's the fact.
34:12
Speaker 2: CJ's a backup. Okay, so he can't do everything that
34:16
Speaker 2: Trevor can do win Trevor's healthy. And here's the other
34:19
Speaker 2: thing I will say, I'll take CJ. Bethard okay over
34:25
Speaker 2: a young, inexperienced first overall pick quarterback right now, Bryce Young?
34:30
Speaker 2: Right now? Okay, right now, I'll take I'll take CJ. Okay.
34:35
Speaker 2: Let's we're trying to figure out who's gonna win, Okay,
34:38
Speaker 2: Jaguars with CJ. Bethard. If let's say he's starting this
34:40
Speaker 2: week against Bryce Young, I'm taking CJ. Bether I am okay.
34:46
Speaker 2: Bryce Young has not impressed me that much. You know,
34:50
Speaker 2: here's the fact of the matter. In the last ten games,
34:52
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers have had over three hundred yards twice,
34:55
Speaker 2: and everybody since he had thirty point game and it
34:57
Speaker 2: came back and made a game competitive against the Green
34:59
Speaker 2: Bay Hackers, like, oh yeah, Rice Young has arrived. He's great. No, no,
35:05
Speaker 2: he's hadn't had three over three hundred yards, but twice
35:07
Speaker 2: in the last ten games. His best output actually was
35:10
Speaker 2: earlier in the year when he had his head coach
35:12
Speaker 2: still well. Then now the owner went off and fired
35:16
Speaker 2: a head coach who was the offensive mine because he
35:19
Speaker 2: can't control his temper and he's mad because his quarterback's
35:22
Speaker 2: not playing as well as a quarterback down in Houston.
35:25
Speaker 2: So the Carolina Panthers are in a little bit of
35:27
Speaker 2: a train wreck. I don't want to say dumpster fire,
35:29
Speaker 2: but it's a bit of a wreck right now. Don't
35:31
Speaker 2: lose to a team that's in a little bit of
35:33
Speaker 2: a wreck. Ye. It's the difference in a train wreck
35:36
Speaker 2: in a dumpster fire. I mean dumpster.
35:37
Speaker 6: Fire, dumpster everything way worse.
35:41
Speaker 2: Wait, have you ever been on a train that's been
35:43
Speaker 2: in a wreck? I don't think you want to be
35:44
Speaker 2: on that?
35:44
Speaker 6: No, But ELSEO don't want to be in a dumpster
35:47
Speaker 6: that's on fire?
35:48
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Speaker 2: what we're having for dinner. Tonight, I can't tell me
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Speaker 2: she's hooked. She suched up the best wings I've ever had.
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Speaker 2: So the show's at seven o'clock tonight. Jaguars All act says,
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Speaker 2: who's the guest tonight?
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Speaker 6: Antonio Johnson is with us.
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Speaker 2: To rookie defensive baths.
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Speaker 6: I talked to him for off the field last week.
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Speaker 6: He's so great and he's very I mean a lot
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Speaker 6: of the rookies in this class are really smart. He's
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Speaker 6: someone that he was hurt a little bit in training camp, right,
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Speaker 6: so he kind of worked his way in and I
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Speaker 6: think that's his benefit because obviously they wanted to kind
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Speaker 6: of use him as the nickel and work him in
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Speaker 6: that way. And I think by being hurt in the beginning,
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Speaker 6: he was able to kind of absorb the being a
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Speaker 6: pro section while he wasn't playing. And then now that
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Speaker 6: he's playing more and kind of you started last week
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Speaker 6: like kind of working his way in there. I think
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Speaker 6: that's really helped his progression this year. I've been impressed
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Speaker 6: with what he's been able to do and kind of
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Speaker 6: just his maturity so far. And obviously he was someone
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Speaker 6: that kind of dropped in the draft, right because.
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Speaker 2: For some reason some reason totally unknown to me.
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Speaker 6: Guy just people thought he was going to go a
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Speaker 6: lot earlier. So I think he's been he's been great,
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Speaker 6: and I think he'll be good to talk.
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Speaker 2: He was a safety at Texas A and M that
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Speaker 2: played nickel and the NFL, if if you're a safety
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Speaker 2: and you can play a little bit of corner or nickel,
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Speaker 2: I mean you got value. And for some reason he dropped.
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Speaker 2: The Jaguars were able to get him in the fifth
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Speaker 2: round and to go back to training camp a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I remember in training camp, I was going, there's that
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Speaker 2: guy twenty six pretty good? And so I started to
38:39
Speaker 2: ask him the coaches and I was like, am I
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Speaker 2: seeing what I'm saying? And there they were like, literally
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Speaker 2: so complimentary of him in every facet defense, special teams, work, ethic, everything,
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Speaker 2: and I was like wow, and he was totally fired
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Speaker 2: up about him on special teams and yeah, he's their
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Speaker 2: gunner on punt team. And by the way, the big
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Speaker 2: loss this week Daniel Thomas going down with the broken arm.
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Speaker 2: I don't know who they're going to replace him with,
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Speaker 2: but Antonio Johnson is very similar to Kyle Hamilton of
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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. And that's not trying to put him
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Speaker 2: up into that class yet, but he's got a lot
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Speaker 2: of similarities, the traits, the length, the speed, the ability
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Speaker 2: to play nickel, and uh, I'm excited about him.
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Speaker 6: He physically already looks like he's kind of there, and
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Speaker 6: then obviously the more time he gets, the more reps
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Speaker 6: he gets. I've been impressed with this place so far.
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Speaker 2: This is this might be the best fifth round draft
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Speaker 2: pick and a long time here Telvin Smith fifth n
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Speaker 2: Telvin is in that class because Telvin was fantastic for
39:51
Speaker 2: a number of years, started for a long time. Kai, Hey,
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Speaker 2: well done. Enjoy Strings tonight. Kay Stevens joining us in
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Speaker 2: the studio. That's seven o'clock at Strings Sports Brewery. Tonight
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Speaker 2: we're back with the injury report, and then at five
40:05
Speaker 2: o'clock it's the Doug Peterson Show. We'll hear from the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars head coach in studio and Fred Taylor on his
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame finalist nod. That's all coming up at
40:17
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Speaker 3: I've had conversations with players the last couple of days
40:38
Speaker 3: and guys are still locked in and focused and they
40:41
Speaker 3: know listen, I might have said this after the game,
40:43
Speaker 3: and it's not like they're going out there and trying to, you.
40:46
Speaker 2: Know, make these mistakes, right.
40:47
Speaker 4: I mean, we just have to be more aware of
40:50
Speaker 4: what's happening.
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Speaker 3: And as coaching, we got to keep continuing to coach
40:55
Speaker 3: them up and put them in put our players in
40:57
Speaker 3: positions to be to be successfu one game day. So
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Speaker 3: I don't feel like they're you know, tuning out, you
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Speaker 3: know at all.
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Speaker 2: Radio Network. In this very studio. We'll get his thoughts
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Speaker 2: on the week that has been and what's ahead for
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Speaker 2: the Jags. A huge ballgame obviously the Jaguars at eight
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Speaker 2: and seven trying to fend off the Texans and the
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Speaker 2: Colts in the AFC South trying to fend off themselves too.
41:47
Speaker 2: That's been a big reason for the four game losing
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Speaker 2: skid for the Jags up to this point. Time for
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Speaker 2: the injury report presented by Baptist Health and the Jacksonville
41:56
Speaker 2: Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: Let's get right to it logs and same exact report
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Speaker 2: as yesterday in fact, and we'll start with CJ. Beththard
42:07
Speaker 2: fool both days of the left shoulder issue. Tyson Campbell
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Speaker 2: with a finger issue now limited both days. Andre Cisco
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Speaker 2: is still with a groin issue, limited both days of practice.
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Speaker 2: The safety offensive lineman Ezra Cleveland with a knee issue
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Speaker 2: limited both days of practice. Zay Jones with a knee
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Speaker 2: and a hamstring issue limited both days. Trevor Lawrence is
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Speaker 2: not practiced either day this week, Walker Little hamstring limited
42:33
Speaker 2: both days. The tackle tackle Cam Robinson's window to practice
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Speaker 2: open this week with a knee injury. He is limited
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Speaker 2: both days, but he seemed positive in the locker room
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Speaker 2: talking to him yesterday. Brenton Strange tight end foot injury
42:47
Speaker 2: limited both days. That's the Jaguars list. Just a little
42:51
Speaker 2: side note here. The last time that Cam Robinson had
42:55
Speaker 2: to have or did have one week of practice prior
42:58
Speaker 2: to starting, the results were pretty good. Remember the game
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Speaker 2: in London was his first start. The second game in
43:07
Speaker 2: London exactly the game against Buffalo, and I was very
43:10
Speaker 2: concerned about his performance and what it would be because
43:15
Speaker 2: he wasn't around practicing, wasn't able to get the reps
43:19
Speaker 2: until just that week, So how would his performance be.
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Speaker 2: He played really well. I remember there was a sack
43:24
Speaker 2: Fumber right before halftime, right from the left side. I
43:29
Speaker 2: thought he was really solid, really solid, and he's physical. Yeah,
43:34
Speaker 2: with a veteran guy, I think you look, you kind
43:36
Speaker 2: of got a little bit of history to to kind
43:39
Speaker 2: of look back on and say, Okay, how might he
43:41
Speaker 2: play under this circumstance where he's been there and it's
43:44
Speaker 2: been pretty good. So and also the fact that Walker
43:47
Speaker 2: Little has been hobbled a little bit. If Cam can
43:49
Speaker 2: be ready to play this week, I would feel really
43:51
Speaker 2: good about that. I think that would help this offfense out.
43:54
Speaker 2: Cam seems to have a little bit of energy that
43:56
Speaker 2: he brings to this offense, especially especially when it kind
44:00
Speaker 2: of needs a little bit of swagger, you know, a
44:02
Speaker 2: little bit of leadership, you know, which is I think
44:05
Speaker 2: every team when you're in a four game losing streak,
44:07
Speaker 2: you always need a little bit of extra leadership, and
44:09
Speaker 2: I think he's going to provide some of that. It'd
44:12
Speaker 2: be nice to see, There's no doubt about that. And
44:14
Speaker 2: they just got to get something jump started here on
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Speaker 2: this offense, no matter who's under center. And that's obviously
44:20
Speaker 2: the big question of the week, Trevor Lawrence or CJ. Bethard.
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Speaker 2: And Lawrence is not practiced this week with a shoulder injury,
44:27
Speaker 2: a throwing shoulder, so CJ. Bethard if he plays okay.
44:31
Speaker 2: Looking at his numbers two and ten as a starter,
44:36
Speaker 2: his last start was on January third of twenty twenty one,
44:42
Speaker 2: and that was when he was with the San Francisco
44:44
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. He lost. His last win was the
44:48
Speaker 2: day after Christmas in twenty twenty which he beat Arizona
44:53
Speaker 2: at Arizona and he had a one hundred and twenty
44:56
Speaker 2: five quarterback rating and he threw three touchdowns, did not
44:59
Speaker 2: have an interception, that's the kind of game you'd like
45:02
Speaker 2: to see out of him if he if he ends
45:04
Speaker 2: up being the guy. But that's it's encouraging that he
45:07
Speaker 2: has the ability to have a game like that. Yeah,
45:11
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have to, you know, light up
45:14
Speaker 2: the stat sheet. You just gotta. But I'm all for it.
45:17
Speaker 2: I'd be great. I'm sure he'd be all for it too.
45:20
Speaker 2: For it. We take it. I'm not gonna send it back.
45:23
Speaker 2: But you know, hey, get this offense moving a little
45:27
Speaker 2: bit and let you lean on some of these other
45:29
Speaker 2: guys to help you. Hey, real quick, I didn't hear
45:32
Speaker 2: you say Anton Harrison on he's not on the injury report. Okay,
45:35
Speaker 2: left the game against against the Bucks, had a back
45:38
Speaker 2: kind of glute whatever it was. Yeah, he's on the report.
45:43
Speaker 2: Kind of that's positive. That's good sign. And here here's
45:46
Speaker 2: why I say that that's positive. Brian Burns is an
45:50
Speaker 2: outside edge rusher for the Carolina Panthers and he is
45:54
Speaker 2: there leading sack or I believe, what does he have
45:58
Speaker 2: like six sacs or something like that, because they don't
46:00
Speaker 2: have somewhere there a ton of sacks. I got the
46:02
Speaker 2: number right here. Six. Now he's got six Luvu, the
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Speaker 2: inside linebacker, who, by the way, is a dynamic blitzer.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean really good blitzer, a second on
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Speaker 2: the team with five and a half. But the reason
46:14
Speaker 2: I bring that up about Anton Harrison because Burns is
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Speaker 2: their best pass rusher. Burns stays on the defensive left side,
46:22
Speaker 2: so that's the that's the matchup that Anton Harrison would
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Speaker 2: draw is their best pass rusher, and I think Anton's athleticism,
46:30
Speaker 2: footwork can totally negate Brian Burds. I feel totally confident
46:35
Speaker 2: in that matchup this week. Feel really good about that.
46:39
Speaker 2: I like that. I don't feel good about a couple
46:41
Speaker 2: other matchups. I feel really good about that. You can
46:44
Speaker 2: go down that path next if you'd like, Oh, we can.
46:46
Speaker 2: But just wanted to mention that because I mean, look,
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Speaker 2: last week left the game, he's on the list. Offensive
46:53
Speaker 2: line hurt not on the list. That's all positive stuff.
46:56
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47:18
Speaker 2: trying to snap this four game skid and remain in
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Speaker 2: first place in the AFC South. A win combined with
47:23
Speaker 2: the Texans and Colts loss Sunday, the Jaguars would secure
47:28
Speaker 2: the AFC South title and a playoff berth this week.
47:31
Speaker 2: Either way, if they win and then win next week,
47:34
Speaker 2: they secured the division no matter if the other teams
47:37
Speaker 2: win on Sunday, but it can be clinched as early
47:41
Speaker 2: as this week, or the Jags could be in a
47:43
Speaker 2: precarious situation in the AFC playoff race. If they fall
47:48
Speaker 2: this week and both those teams win, the division is
47:52
Speaker 2: out because those two teams, the Texans and Colts, play
47:54
Speaker 2: each other next week, and that would be a defecto
47:57
Speaker 2: championship game in the AFC South. And then you're hoping
48:01
Speaker 2: for a wild card spot, likely the number seven seed.
48:04
Speaker 2: Do you think that's possible. Let me just hypothetically, let's
48:07
Speaker 2: say that they are going for that wild card spot.
48:09
Speaker 2: Who who are the other teams that are in that race? Okay,
48:13
Speaker 2: so we're looking at because I don't think it's likely.
48:16
Speaker 2: It's it's interesting, right, because you have tie breakers against
48:19
Speaker 2: some of these teams. Something in play, Well, it'd be
48:22
Speaker 2: the Vision teams, right, whoever loses the division. In the
48:27
Speaker 2: case of its Detexans and Colts, the Jags have a
48:29
Speaker 2: tiebreaker against them, right. Pittsburgh Jaguars have the tiebreaker against
48:35
Speaker 2: the Steelers because they beat them head to head. Right.
48:37
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's also eight and seven, so okay, and then Buffalo's
48:41
Speaker 2: nine and six. They if they falter, they're kind of
48:44
Speaker 2: in it. But the Jags have the tiebreaker against Buffalo. Yeah,
48:46
Speaker 2: they're not in six. It doesn't matter, I mean, but
48:49
Speaker 2: if for some reason, the Jaguars, yeah, that's that's kind
48:51
Speaker 2: of where they are right now. Yeah, because the teams
48:54
Speaker 2: that are I mean, basically, it's going to be interesting. Now,
48:59
Speaker 2: here's Cleveland's ten and five. You know, hey, here's the
49:02
Speaker 2: fact that the matter. Jp you gotta beat the worst
49:06
Speaker 2: team in football at home. Yes, we're aware of that.
49:13
Speaker 2: You can talk about all the other scenarios, but you know,
49:16
Speaker 2: here's the thing. Do you even want to talk about that?
49:19
Speaker 2: If you can't beat the worst team in football at home?
49:24
Speaker 2: I just say that lookie, take care of your own business.
49:27
Speaker 2: Figure it out. Take care of your own business. And
49:30
Speaker 2: if you can't, if you end up losing five in
49:32
Speaker 2: a row down the stretch, okay, and you lose the
49:34
Speaker 2: worst team in football, you don't you don't deserve to go. Probably,
49:38
Speaker 2: I mean in theory though, they could still go, right,
49:41
Speaker 2: I mean that's possible, possible, And you always want to go. Oh,
49:46
Speaker 2: absolutely are because if you go, you're gonna have a
49:48
Speaker 2: home playoff game, and you want to see the division
49:51
Speaker 2: if you win the division, right, you want to see
49:53
Speaker 2: the fans have that. But the other thing you would
49:55
Speaker 2: like to do is generate a little momentum going into
49:57
Speaker 2: the playoffs. So here you go. Here's an opportunity. Okay,
50:00
Speaker 2: first game out, you got the worst team in football,
50:02
Speaker 2: you got them at home. Okay, last game of the year, okay,
50:05
Speaker 2: there's an opportunity to go on the road and beat
50:07
Speaker 2: a division rival at their place to generate more momentum
50:11
Speaker 2: going in the playoffs. We are moments away from the
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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson Show. We'll get the head coaches thoughts about
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Speaker 2: it in studio in just moments. Thanks to Kay Stevens
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Speaker 2: for Jeff Loggie and I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.