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UK Column News Podcast 25th November 2024 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty fifth of November
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK
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  Speaker 1: column News. I'm your host Bryan Gerrish, delighted up with
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  Speaker 1: me in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Rubin, Welcome, Governor Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Great that you're here, and will be joined by Diane
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  Speaker 1: Rasmusen mcaddie live link from Scotland. Now, I'd just like
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  Speaker 1: to say, as you can probably see from the backdrop,
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  Speaker 1: it's a truly lovely day here in Plymouth. We've survived
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  Speaker 1: the weekend as storms, pretty unpleasant flooding, So if you're
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  Speaker 1: one of the people who've been affected out there, we
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  Speaker 1: are thinking of you. And of course people have had
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  Speaker 1: some really bad experiences in those high winds, but most
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  Speaker 1: of us have survived and the sun shining today, which
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  Speaker 1: is good. Now we're going to get straight off with
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  Speaker 1: matters to do with the weather, and what better place
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  Speaker 1: to start than Cop twenty nine which didn't go as
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  Speaker 1: well as attended. Let's have a look at this as intended.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this little video clip.
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  Speaker 3: No deal is better than a bad deal, chanted some
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  Speaker 3: protesters overnight.
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  Speaker 4: Our so called leaders are negotiating away the future of
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  Speaker 4: our children's children's right at this very moment.
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  Speaker 3: COP negotiations routinely go down to the wire, through it
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  Speaker 3: and out the other side. This year's deadline over twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hours ago this afternoon the Association of Small Island
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  Speaker 3: States walked out in disgust.
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  Speaker 2: We came here to this COP for a fair deal.
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  Speaker 2: We feel that we haven't been heard, and there's a
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  Speaker 2: deal to be made, and we are not being consulted.
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  Speaker 3: The three hundred billion dollars on the table I thing
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  Speaker 3: like what island states and developing nations say they need
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  Speaker 3: each year to protect them from climate change.
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  Speaker 1: Well there we are. That was Channel four with lots
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  Speaker 1: of images showing that we're all going to drown as
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  Speaker 1: a result of climate change. But of course no real
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  Speaker 1: proof for this agenda. Three hundred billion agenda not big enough,
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  Speaker 1: but that pails into insignificance against the trillions for war.
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  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this tweet though, see what
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  Speaker 1: else is coming? This is labor MP Bill Esterson. He
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  Speaker 1: said that ordinary people will absolutely have to adjust their
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  Speaker 1: habits if it's to meet the UK's Ambitions emissions goal
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  Speaker 1: for twenty thirty. So let's bring him in. Net zero
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  Speaker 1: targets will force people to quote change their lives, says
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  Speaker 1: Labour's Chair of Energy Committee. So they're going to drive
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  Speaker 1: the climate change through and the energy changes in order
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  Speaker 1: to supposedly saved the world, and our behavior is going
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  Speaker 1: to have to change if they're going to get this
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  Speaker 1: programmed through. This is a tip of the Iceberg. Ben
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  Speaker 1: What have you got?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the heart bleeds, doesn't it. They miss their funding target.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real shame. But don't worry. They know where
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  Speaker 2: all of the money is and they've already issued a
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  Speaker 2: plan over the weekend. I've seen this. This is the
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  Speaker 2: COP twenty nine finance staircase that came from Global Optimism,
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  Speaker 2: I believe is worth the page that I picked it
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  Speaker 2: up from. And they've already identified that bilateral public finance,
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  Speaker 2: multilateral development banks, an expansion of the contributor base, which
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  Speaker 2: is basically a whip round to people innovative sources, which
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  Speaker 2: is creating really exotic financial instruments that just sound frankly dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we're venturing into financial crisis territory with the
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  Speaker 2: kind of things that they're proposing. And also private finance,
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  Speaker 2: which is usurious lending by rich families and corporations is
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  Speaker 2: going to fill the funding gap. It will get them
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  Speaker 2: to the trillion dollars and they're just going to keep
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  Speaker 2: on pressing on. Right, this is going in one direction only,
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  Speaker 2: and they've got big plans through to the next COP
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  Speaker 2: COP twenty thirty, I sorry, COP thirty, which happens next year,
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and that is very much centered around
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  Speaker 2: this new organization which launched earlier on in the summer,
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  Speaker 2: but has really ramped up over COP twenty nine. So
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  Speaker 2: this is Mission twenty twenty five. It's a coalition of businesses, mayors, investors,
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  Speaker 2: cultural leaders, health leaders, scientists and youth activists inviting governments
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  Speaker 2: to ratchet upcoming national climate plans in line with the
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  Speaker 2: Paris Agreement target of limiting global warming to one point
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  Speaker 2: five degrees centigrade because later it's too late. All right,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to do it. They've got a plan. There's
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  Speaker 2: three steps to it. It's about finance, energy and nature
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  Speaker 2: and food. They've got to identify the chiosk. They have
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  Speaker 2: a craft evidenced tested messaging frames. Imagine that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what a messaging frame is, but it sounds great,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it. It's basically propaganda what we're talking about here,
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  Speaker 2: and then they need to recr and amplify a diverse
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  Speaker 2: chorus of messengers to petition government and get media coverage.
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  Speaker 2: They've already been featured in the Financial Times, Reuter's Business Green,
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  Speaker 2: whatever that is. It's a new thing. I've just come
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  Speaker 2: across it, and they're extraordinarily well backed, as you'd expect.
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  Speaker 2: It's been convened by Global Optimism, who we've spoken about
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  Speaker 2: over the past couple of weeks, the Bezos Earth Fund,
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  Speaker 2: so Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men alive, and
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  Speaker 2: something called the System's Changed Lab and there is a
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  Speaker 2: whole ecosystem of organizations who are participating in funding and
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  Speaker 2: progressing this agenda. You can see c forty cities there
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  Speaker 2: at the bottom of that side, who we've talked about
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  Speaker 2: a lot. There are seventy five other partners listed on
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  Speaker 2: this website. This is a focal point. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: be talking about it over the next twelve months, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 2: But also don't forget this is already playing out on
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  Speaker 2: the ground. This last week from three CI, the City's
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  Speaker 2: Commission for Climate Investment, where we can see Sheffield City's
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  Speaker 2: leadership team boasting that we are acting and thinking like
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  Speaker 2: the major core city we are is. They joined three
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  Speaker 2: CIS round table to make the strong case for investment
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  Speaker 2: into Sheffield's decarbonization plans. In the foreground you can see
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  Speaker 2: their Sheffield City Council represented by Tom Hunt and to
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  Speaker 2: his right someone from Infra Capital and then someone from
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  Speaker 2: Berkley's right. This is the public private marketplace, the fasciest
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  Speaker 2: marketplace that is being used to roll out of the
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  Speaker 2: system's happening on the frontline of local government right now.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that, Ben, and we'll just
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  Speaker 1: add to that that occasionally we've got viewers and listeners
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  Speaker 1: who are saying, why is it the UK column's got
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  Speaker 1: such a focus on what's happening around climate. It is
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  Speaker 1: because when you dig into the subject, this is the
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  Speaker 1: baseline driving everything. It's therein defense, security, health, every aspect
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  Speaker 1: of our lives is actually going to be controlled using
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  Speaker 1: this weapon of climate change. So people have really got
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  Speaker 1: to understand what it's about. Now, Dianne will academic speak
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  Speaker 1: speaking out as a result of their concerns about some
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  Speaker 1: of this government propaganda.
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  Speaker 5: Ninety nine point nine percent of them will not be
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  Speaker 5: Brian Ben and hello. But those of us who are
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  Speaker 5: members of Academics for Academic Freedom will certainly do our
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  Speaker 5: best to do so. I'm happy to give a report
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  Speaker 5: on the Academics Academic Freedom Manual conference that I attended
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  Speaker 5: over the weekend down in London. It was a really
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  Speaker 5: really great day. It was some very sad stories and
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  Speaker 5: some very sad results. I'm a member of the steering
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  Speaker 5: committee of the Edinburgh branch Academics for Academic Freedom and
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  Speaker 5: I'm proud to say that I am also on the
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  Speaker 5: band list that highlights those of us who have been
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  Speaker 5: banned and silenced regardless of what side our views fall
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  Speaker 5: on in.
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  Speaker 6: Any particular situation.
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  Speaker 5: There are people from all over universities on all different
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  Speaker 5: levels on this list who have been highlighted for being
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  Speaker 5: silenced or being told that they can't say what they
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  Speaker 5: want to say. And you can read my entire statement
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  Speaker 5: on the bandlist, which will be in the stuff of
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  Speaker 5: the show notes, but I will just say that part
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  Speaker 5: of mine says I have learned the hard way that
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  Speaker 5: in EDI equality, diversity inclusion, culture inclusion means exclusion. If
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  Speaker 5: your mob decides that you belong to their wrong groups.
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  Speaker 5: And that's just how mine has gone, I will say,
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  Speaker 5: very sadly as well, a very important number of the
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  Speaker 5: bandlist as a student who took his own life this year,
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  Speaker 5: in actually earlier this month. He was a student in
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  Speaker 5: Oxford and he was essentially, I guess we could say,
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  Speaker 5: a victim of cancel culture and was ostracized from his
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  Speaker 5: peer group, which of course is very important.
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  Speaker 6: To young people.
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  Speaker 5: And because of his persecution, they found his body dead
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  Speaker 5: in the Tims River. It's a very very sad story
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  Speaker 5: and he is also highlighted as well on this website.
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  Speaker 5: The Statement of Academic Freedom can be signed on our
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  Speaker 5: website by anyone who's basically ever been to the university.
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  Speaker 5: Feel free to add your name if you've ever been
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  Speaker 5: to university of a graduate of anywhere. Basically says that
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  Speaker 5: we believe that academics, both inside outside the classroom, have
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  Speaker 5: unrestricted liberty to question and test received wisdom and to
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  Speaker 5: put forward controversial and unpopular opinions, whether or not they
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  Speaker 5: are deemed defensive, and that institutions have no right to
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  Speaker 5: curb the exercise of this freedom by members of their staff,
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  Speaker 5: or to use it as grounds for disciplinary action or dismissal,
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  Speaker 5: which unfortunately is not the experience of pretty much any
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  Speaker 5: of us who have been members of this group. There's
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  Speaker 5: our group photo at the end of the day celebrating freedom.
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  Speaker 5: We were very happy to celebrate everything that we had
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  Speaker 5: done during the day. It was held at Conway Hall
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  Speaker 5: in central London, which was a site where George Oilwell
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  Speaker 5: spoke in the past. There's been a long history of
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  Speaker 5: anarchists and so on. It was very good spirit of
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  Speaker 5: a place to have this event held because of just
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  Speaker 5: things that have happened in the past. So we were
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  Speaker 5: really in the company of good people from our backgrounds.
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  Speaker 5: I was also there with Joefie Phoenix and lots of
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  Speaker 5: other people. Here, for example, is this guy who said
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  Speaker 5: that astronauts space travel is basically similar to academics for
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  Speaker 5: academic Freedom. It really shouldn't have to exist, it should
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  Speaker 5: be self explanatory, but here we are with this particular situation. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 5: we had also some other interesting talks, one in particular
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  Speaker 5: or some students for Academics for Academic Freedom, who I
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  Speaker 5: hope to interview sometime in the near future for UK column.
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  Speaker 5: And some of the students are very very concerned about
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  Speaker 5: the environment that they're learning in. They actually called it
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  Speaker 5: nineteen eighty four and these were students from various universities
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  Speaker 5: around the UK feeling like they are silenced, they can't speak.
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  Speaker 6: They just want to get on.
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  Speaker 5: With what they want to do with their studies and
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  Speaker 5: they're hoping that other academics, lecturers and professors will will
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  Speaker 5: support them in their quest to be able to be
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  Speaker 5: able to express and explore views, which is the point
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  Speaker 5: of university.
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  Speaker 6: We put hope in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: And that a wonderful lady from a group called Free
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  Speaker 5: Speech Whales, So those of you and whales really should.
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  Speaker 6: Find out about this.
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  Speaker 5: This is on the academics record that we Freedom website,
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  Speaker 5: but she also has a Twitter account and I learned
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more about whales and whales, as we know,
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  Speaker 5: have some serious problems. We all know about maybe the
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  Speaker 5: twenty mile an hour speed limits, but in terms of
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  Speaker 5: free speech and what is going on there is particularly
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  Speaker 5: concerning there are things about anti racist whales, which is
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  Speaker 5: a Welsh government's policy.
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  Speaker 6: It's a long document.
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  Speaker 5: You can look at what they're doing to try to
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  Speaker 5: be so called anti racist as much as possible, and
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  Speaker 5: we have on the from my profession, we have inclusive futures,
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  Speaker 5: which basically says things like, for example, you should not
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  Speaker 5: hold events in buildings that are named after dead white
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  Speaker 5: people because that is racist, and so you should look
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  Speaker 5: for other venues to hold your library events. Something that's
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  Speaker 5: come out in the media very recently is asking whether
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  Speaker 5: dog walking is racist because there are people from certain
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  Speaker 5: cultures and backgrounds who don't feel comfortable brown dogs. So
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  Speaker 5: you shouldn't take your dogs to the park because it
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  Speaker 5: might be offensive to who come from those cultures. This
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  Speaker 5: one right here was Abishi Shaha, who was professor of
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  Speaker 5: maths at Queen Mary's Gift, London, who gave a lot
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  Speaker 5: of good background and updates on the Academic Freedom of
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  Speaker 5: Higher Education Freedom Speech Act that has started in place
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  Speaker 5: by the Conservatives actually in twenty nineteen, and Bridget Phillipson
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  Speaker 5: has has halted it. So I want to go just
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  Speaker 5: into a bit of what was going on this legislation.
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  Speaker 5: There is a full report that I did from this
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  Speaker 5: in the earlier stages in September twenty twenty four, and
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  Speaker 5: let's just watch this quick clip from that time and
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  Speaker 5: then we'll see where we got to you from there.
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  Speaker 5: What did bridget say again back in September.
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  Speaker 7: Litt Detail Adam Minister Gagar Mahindra, thank you Mardain w Speaker,
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  Speaker 7: Can I welcome the sexual state to her place? The
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  Speaker 7: High Education Freedom and Speech Act twenty twenty three would
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  Speaker 7: have ensured that universities in England have the tools they
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  Speaker 7: need to deal with interviews and threats to freedom of
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  Speaker 7: speech and academic freedom wherever they originate. Now the Act
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  Speaker 7: will no longer be implemented by this government. Will the
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  Speaker 7: secuy state clown for as the House, what her alternative
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  Speaker 7: plans are to protect academic freedom in the high educational sector.
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  Speaker 8: The honorable gentleman will know that freedom of expression and
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  Speaker 8: academic freedom are incredibly important. There are giuties that the
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  Speaker 8: Office for Students sets out. Many of these principles are
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  Speaker 8: already enshrined in law, but I want to make sure
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  Speaker 8: that we get this right and I'm confident that the
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  Speaker 8: honorable gentlemen would not want to be in a position
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  Speaker 8: where the Act might have opened up the potential the
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  Speaker 8: hate speech, including Holocaust denial, to be spread on campus,
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  Speaker 8: something that the previous minister in the last government was
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  Speaker 8: unable to rule out.
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  Speaker 5: So that was what we heard in September, and on
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  Speaker 5: the tenth of October we had an urgent question that
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  Speaker 5: was put to the House of Commons to ask the
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  Speaker 5: Secretary of State she will make a statement on freedom
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  Speaker 5: of speech and universities. And here is the end of
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  Speaker 5: that discussion, which was between Conservative Impederom Mayhew and Catherine mckennell,
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  Speaker 5: who's the Minister of School Standards.
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  Speaker 9: Sure be the Higher Education Freedom of Speech Act isn't
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  Speaker 9: a government scheme that is being paused. It is an
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  Speaker 9: Act of Parliament which has received role assent. So that
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  Speaker 9: is a very serious decision to take to stop that
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  Speaker 9: in its tracks. So it must have been based on
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  Speaker 9: serious evidence. Can the Minister set out what that evidence was?
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  Speaker 9: And given that the need to defend freedom of speech
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  Speaker 9: is now, how long is this process going to take?
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  Speaker 2: Manage them?
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  Speaker 4: I agree with the honorable gentlemen that this is a
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  Speaker 4: serious issue and it was a serious and important decision
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  Speaker 4: to make because we need to make sure we have
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  Speaker 4: the right foundations in place for long term securing of
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  Speaker 4: free speech in higher education. We will consult with all
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  Speaker 4: the groups who have an interest in ensuring we get
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  Speaker 4: this right. We're listening to the concert of those that
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  Speaker 4: were concerned about the Act and its implications. We're also
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  Speaker 4: listening to those who support of many of the measures
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  Speaker 4: within the Act and would like to see action taken
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  Speaker 4: to ensure freedom of speech in higher education. And that
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  Speaker 4: is why we because of the seriousness of this issue,
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  Speaker 4: that we have stepped back to ensure we take that
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  Speaker 4: pragmatic and long term approach.
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  Speaker 5: So that was a bit of waffle, or quite a
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  Speaker 5: bit of waffle.
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  Speaker 6: Do you ask me.
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  Speaker 5: Where we are now is as of earlier this month,
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  Speaker 5: Bridget Phillips is being taken to court by the.
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  Speaker 6: Free Speech Union. The Free Speech.
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  Speaker 5: Union is basically calling that essentially what she's doing is unlawful,
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  Speaker 5: of course, and so that case is going to be held,
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  Speaker 5: I believe early early in twenty twenty five. I think
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  Speaker 5: January twenty twenty five, So hopefully I'll have an update
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  Speaker 5: after that takes place. But I don't think we're seeing
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  Speaker 5: anything encouraging from the Labor government at this point that
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  Speaker 5: is really protecting freedom of speech at all whatsoever, and
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  Speaker 5: especially now in this case for universities.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Diane agree with that. No free speech for the public,
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  Speaker 1: but of course free speech for the politicians. So let's
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  Speaker 1: have a listen to what Kiir Stormer had to say.
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  Speaker 1: A day agos of jobs in defense in our part
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  Speaker 1: of the world, including Abbeywood at Filton.
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  Speaker 10: Storm Shadow missiles are made there. The government, your government
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  Speaker 10: has not confirmed or deny that they've been used on
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  Speaker 10: Russian territory. But there are a lot of people in
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  Speaker 10: defense and a lot of people very worried about what's
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  Speaker 10: going on right now in Ukraine. Are we at war?
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  Speaker 11: No, we're not at war, but Ukraine certainly is because
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  Speaker 11: Ukraine has been invaded by Russia and that war has
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  Speaker 11: now been going on for just over a thousand days.
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  Speaker 11: That's a thousand days of Aggrussian from Russia and a
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  Speaker 11: thousand days of sacrifice for Ukraine. And that is why
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  Speaker 11: we've said distantly that we stand by Ukraine. We cannot
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  Speaker 11: allow Putin to win this war. Despite the fact that
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  Speaker 11: he said it's going global, well, there's irresponsible rhetoric.
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  Speaker 1: Well that we are. Where is the irresponsible rhetoric coming from?
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  Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's straight out of the mouth of
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  Speaker 1: Kiir's starmer. He is fermenting war. Uk has clearly been
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  Speaker 1: involved in helping to ferment regime change and the resulting
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  Speaker 1: war in the Donbas. Russia now dragged in and we
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  Speaker 1: are very very close to a major escalation, and Kiir
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  Speaker 1: Starmer trying to assure reassure the nation that really there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing in it and we shouldn't we shouldn't worry at all,
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  Speaker 1: but we cannot allow Putin to win. That was the
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  Speaker 1: key statement, and I'll be taking you into why he's
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  Speaker 1: actually saying that, But first of all, let's remind ourselves
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  Speaker 1: that if Kiir Starmer had that to say, what did
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  Speaker 1: Tony Blair have to say about weapons of mass destruction?
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  Speaker 1: Will Of course, many people believe that he deliberately lied
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  Speaker 1: to the nation. The subsequent investigation suggested that intelligence analysis
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit weak and a bit misglided, but
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  Speaker 1: many people saw through that to say that Tony Blair
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  Speaker 1: lied over weapons of mass destruction in order to ferment
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  Speaker 1: a war at the time. So let's have a look
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  Speaker 1: at Ukraine, and this is obviously from the Kiev Post opinion.
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine will win. Ukraine is not a burden to the West,
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  Speaker 1: but a valuable investment. But the reality is that the
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine defenses are collapsing at the moment, and amidst the
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  Speaker 1: fighting the slaughter is truly horrific, and I will say
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on both sides, but Ukraine is taking the worst of it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: But this is the reality pointed out in the Kiev
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Post article that of course Ukraine is asset writ And
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: this is one of the maps showing Ukraine's oil and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: gas prospects, and you will see that there's a band
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in the east of the country which is very close
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to where the fighting is actually going on at the moment.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: If we have a look at this map, we can
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: also see that there are mineral reserves and the darker
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: brown color shows that the best of these assets are
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: in the east of the country, again where the fighting
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: is taking place. So this article pointing out the wealth
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: of Ukraine, and let's see what this journalist Diane Francis
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: has to say. She says that President Zelenski wants American
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: business to invest in his country's natural resources worth some
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: twenty six trillion dollars, equivalent to Canada's or Australia's mineral wealth.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: So we're into big bucks. Zelensky also pledges that Ukraine's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: military will help protect Europe's security after the war. Well,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this is very reassuring from the most corrupt country in Europe,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and one where we've seen vile things happening not only
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: on the battlefield but against the Ukrainian population by those
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: military patrols, literally dragging people off the streets to die
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on the front lines. But she goes on and she's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: talking about Putin. She says he's a trillionaire tycoon who
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: controls a nasty oligarchy that is exploited and harvested the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: resources of Ukraine and other former colonies for decades, as
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: did the Tsars before them. Ben, doesn't that sound a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: bit like the West?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It certainly does sound like the West.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I was just stunned because she's saying one thing. But
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I think I know where the badge pins. Let's see
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what else she had to say. If the war costs
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: five hundred billion dollars and Russia loses its three hundred
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and fifty billion in frozen assets seized by Western banks,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of twenty six trillion in resources, or even half or
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a quarter of that represents a spectacular return on investment.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: This war is simply a return on investment. It's about
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: making a few bucks, well twenty six trillion altogether. She
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: says that the West has been enormously generous to Ukraine
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and deserves to be rewarded and reimbursed its military and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: humanitarian aid expenditures. The West can also help rebuild the country.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But of course what this lady doesn't talk about is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the circa four hundred thousand dead Ukrainians and probably about
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a million casualties, But not to worry about those, because
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the dead and the mutilated or absolutely so worth it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: for the West's plan. So there's no doubt what's going
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on here. This is about grabbing the assets of Ukraine.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And we can be sure that the US, UK European
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Union had their eyes set on those assets at twenty
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: six trillion pounds worth of minerals, oil and gas well
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: before the trouble unleashed in Ukraine itself, so a fermented
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: war in order to asset grab those riches. But of course,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: unfortunately the war has not gone as the US and
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: the UK and the West expected, and Russia is now
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: holding the upper hand, which is why our prime minister
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: says that Putin must be stopped at all costs. Of course,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, because the West must rape those assets as
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: fast as possible. Now after the ad break, I'm going
• 22:47
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• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that rape is going to take place, and of course
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  Speaker 1: fight against what we're called the goolag of the family courts.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Let's just have a look at the video clip here
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: with Sam protesting and her subsequent arrest outside the Cabinet office.
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  Speaker 5: Now they're trying to cover up their news.
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  Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable with the way he was touching her
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  Speaker 1: during the arrest, but the whole saga disgraceful. Keir Starmer,
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• 25:29
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• 25:49
  Speaker 1: emails as a result of my interview with Christian I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: saw at my interview with Steven Siser on Christian Zionism,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and I've had some really nice emails. I've also had
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: some challenging emails were the most important point for me
• 26:06
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• 26:09
  Speaker 1: on the subject of Christian Zionism and why we need
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to understand it and its power to influence what is
• 26:17
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• 26:29
  Speaker 1: councils for their policy and plans. That's the Advisory Concerned
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Citizens Advisory Assembly, and they sent me through a little
• 26:41
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• 26:52
  Speaker 1: be done to actually challenge councils where they're bringing in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: inappropriate policy. So there's the web address for that, get
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: on have a look at it. And this is giving
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: ordinary people the opportunity to really stand up and challenge
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and to have their voice heard. We've also got this
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for Edinburgh Peace March. This will be at twelve thirty Saturday,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the thirtieth November, and the start point for the rally
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: will be the grass Area adjacent to the Scottish Parliament.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So if you're up there in Scotland north of the border,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: another valuable demonstration going on where people are prepared to
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: stand up and challenge not only the government north of
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the border, but also of course in Westminster as to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: why we're just being dragged into these horrific wars, whether
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it's in Ukraine or the Middle East or further afield.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So let's return to the subject of Ukraine and Blackrock
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: is the company and this is the key bit to understand.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: The Blackrock has undertaken a Memorandum of Understanding with Ukraine.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: So basically they've signed this MoU whereby black Rock will
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: provide advisory support for designing an investment framework. It goes
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: on to give a little bit more detail, but essentially
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that framework is for future reconstruction and recovery. Well, the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: war hasn't finished. The slaughter is getting worse in a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: desperation to stop the Russian advance on the battlefield. But
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: don't worry because, as the journalist from the Kiev newspaper said,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: there's trillions to be made out of a successful resolution
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to this war. Now, if we have a look across
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the internet, there's a lot of information about this, so
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: please search for yourself. One of the key things is
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that black Rock has got the power of ten trillion
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: in investments behind it. I've used the word magic there.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about black magic in producing money for Ukraine.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So that was the headline, but across the internet we've
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: got many different headlines. Selenski, Blackrock CEO Fink agree to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: coordinate Ukraine investment. Black Rock and JP Morgan back fifteen
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: billion fund to rebuild Ukraine. Ukraine Reconstruction bank eyes nearly
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: one billion in committed capital and a small one there
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: talking about black Rock and JP Morgan again, So why
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: do we need to pay attention to this With respect
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to Keir Starmer casually saying we're not at war with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the Russians, Well, of course, behind the scenes, Kiir Starmer
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: absolutely in bed with black Rock. Now, I know I've
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: used an open democracy source here. We don't support open
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: democracy in its wider emissions, but this article was on
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the button. And here we have the black Rock letters
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: inside Labour's close partnership. And Jonathan Reynolds told the Investment
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Bank that he looked forward to working together to change
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the face of our United Kingdom. So we've got a
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: ten trillion funded organization going to change our lives. But
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: what this article picked up is in exchange through to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: government officials themselves from black Rock. This was the man
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: at the center of the storm. We will say Antony Manchester,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and he sent an email to Jonathan Reynolds saying, Dear
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Secretary of State, on all of us here at black Rock,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: please find attached a formal letter of congratulations from myself
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: and our UK chair Sondra Boss, and may i add
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: on a personal note, it is a pleasure, after all
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: these years to address you as such. Now this was
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a fawning email and there's good reason for it, because
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: if we go and have a look at the background
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: this man, we can see that before black Rock, he
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was a member of the Common Council City of London, Corporation,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Financial and Economic counselor Foreign and Commonwealth Office, HM Treasury,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the Cabinet Office and HM Treasury.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So straight out of deep government into a ten trillion
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: black rock company, where he then with his colleagues effectively
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: steps back into the inner sanctum to be entertained by
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Kiir Starmer in order to get black rock policy in
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Ukraine unfolded. As I take you through this particular section,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: what is in my mind is the slaughter which is
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: taking place on the battlefield, thousands of men dying a day.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Does the West care about this? Does Kiir Starmer want
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: p well, he wants peace, but only if UK can
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: be at the four front of grabbing those Ukrainian assets.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I find, ben this stuff is just horrific when you
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: really get into it. And of course none of the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: mainstream media or the BBC are taking the lid off
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: what's really happening here, but it's truly sickening. We have
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: got one article from the National, so well done for
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the Scott's Keirs Starmer slammed over gushing tweet about the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: black Rock meeting, and this was an interesting one here
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: from Clive Lewis MP. He says, for those attempting to
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: make sense of Trump's victory in the rise of the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: far right across Europe, look no further than the PM
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: statement below. Whether you like it or not, the far
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: right as a set of common narratives, we can probably
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: all recite them. So Clive lewis pointing a finger at
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the far right. But the tweet he used is none
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: other than Kiir Starmer saying I'm determined to deliver growth,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: create wealth and put money in people's pockets. This can
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: only be achieved by working in partnership with leading businesses
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: like black Rock to capitalize on the UK's position as
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: a world leading hub for investment. Now I thought of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you as I'll put this slide together, Ben, because essentially
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this is government and big business entwined. This is fascism
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: and the West and UK in particular helped for men
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: to war where perhaps four hundred thousand, maybe half a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: million men have died, plus probably a million wounded and maimed.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: That was created in order to get hands on this
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: twenty six trillion of Ukrainian assets. So I think this
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is pretty unpleasant and I'm just going to add to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it so that if we dig into the labor party itself,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: we've got some very interesting things coming to the surface.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: This is from Private Eye, but it's an article about
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: sorry New Crawley MP Peter Lamb and the nub of
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: this is about a major taxi corruption racket which took
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: place where mostly Asian taxi drivers paid bribes in the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: thousands for licenses despite the fact they could barely speak
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: any English or navigate the local roads. This is the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Private Eye article, but the key point of this article
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: is that Crawley Counsel were handed dossiers of the evidence
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, seventeen and twenty twenty. Sussex Police initially
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: investigated but apparently dropped the case because of insufficient evidence.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: But basically labor not really interested in bringing this to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the surface. So we've got corruption at the top of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the tree with regard to what's happening in Ukraine and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the trillions that the billions going in for the trillions
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to come out, and then at local level we again
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: see corruption by this pernicious labor government that of course
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: bears no resembulance, resemblance to old labor which many people
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: would like to see return to perhaps sort this out.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: We're in perilous times, Ben, as we look at this,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: indeed we are.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised that Clive Lewis can claim to be surprised,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: though you know he stood next to Starmer during the
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: general election, and he's got access to the internet. He
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: can go and look at what Starin has been doing
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: for the past several years. And he's been in and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: out of these public private meetings for the entire time
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: that he's been in office, even as you said, as
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: leader of the Opposition.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely well, of course it gets deeper and darker because
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: politics is not as we think.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Certainly not, and there are certainly people trying to change
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the face of the United Kingdom, and we're going to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: talk about some of them now relates to this organization,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: a political organization. We've spoken about them a few times,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: first back in June and then a couple of times
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: in October, and this is getting bigger than I possibly
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: could have imagined, to be honest with you. They are
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: now entering a formal strategic partnership with the British State
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: in order to think about the future of the country,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and the State is working with a political foundation to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: develop a future vision for the United Kingdom. Just think
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: about that. We're going to talk about it and show
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: you some examples of what I'm referring to. It all
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: centers around this event which happened in Westminster last week,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: which is the inaugural a Political Day where they are
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: looking at how can we equip political leaders ready for
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: the twenty first century? Which is an awful sentence to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: lead out your event with, But will put that aside.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Who was there who's who of political and private sector figures,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: including people like Martha Lane Fox, Marvin Reese, the former
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: mayor of Bristol, to Jeff Mulgan, generals Nick Carter, former
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: head of the Army who ran seventy seventh Brigade during COVID,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: amongst other things. And the day was led out by
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: these three ladies. So that is Poojo Warrior Hamilton on
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the left. She's the chief Partnerships officer for a political foundation,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: so she looks after the money their sales pipeline. Then
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you have Lisa Whitter, the chief executive of a political foundation,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and Robin Scott, the CEO of a political We've spoken
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: about both of those ladies previously. Lisa Whitter focuses on politicians.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Robin Scott focuses on civil servants. All three of these
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: women are young global leaders of the World Economic Forum.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: This shot here was taken from a World Bank event
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: held in Washington, d C. Over the summer. This is
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the best shot I have the three of them together,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and they were leading out the event in Westminster last week.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: We also met a few other new people. This gentleman here,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Adam Park who is the incoming chairman of a political
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He's going to be starting in that position sometime in
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the next few months. He's the former CEO of Williams
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: F one, the Formula one team, and actually Formula one
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: appears to be a very important platform for pushing out
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of these sustainable technologies. It's worth going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: have a look at what the F one teams are doing.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Before that, he was also the assistant to the chief
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: executive and chairman of Rio Tinto, the mining conglomerate, which
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: is very closely linked to the Rothchild family. And he
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: opened up the day interviewing Lisa and Robin and basically saying, Lisa,
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Robin and I went for a walk in France in
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen and I asked them to do something pretty
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: much impossible, which is to transform government globally in about
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: a decade. How does Adam Park get to ask questions
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: like that, who is this guy?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: B're absolutely on the button. Who are these people? How
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: did they get their power base? Many of them are
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: course as global leaders through the World Economic Forum, but
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: think about that, a complete change of global government in
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: ten years. This is one of the key reasons why
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: UK column really pressing this issue. If we want to
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: deal with the corruption and the breakdown of politics, we've
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: got to understand what's driving it and the time scale,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: because these people are trying to race ahead.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're in the business end of this plan.
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: Raw.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So that conversation happened in twenty fifteen. We're now in
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. That's nine years down the track, right.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: So a lot of the chaos that we're seeing out
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: there in the world is because of plans to destabilize
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the existing system and to implement a new system. And
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: they're obviously doing this in a completely altruistic way. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: all well meaning, it's all for the common good. Let's
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: see here. Daniel Sachs we've spoken about previously. His view
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is that the historic relationship between money and power has
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: been problematic, a lot of self interest, a lot of lobbying.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: But that's not what we're talking about here. We're taking
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a non partisan systems change approach. We're talking about businesses
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: role in protecting the tenets of democracy. Well, isn't that
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: good of you, Daniel Sacks. I'm sure that there's nothing
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: self interested about this whatsoever. Let's just remind ourselves by
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: the way that he looks after all investments for the
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Sorows Families Open Societies Foundation. He's a senior advisor to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Chatham House, He's on the European Council on Foreign Relations.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: This is an extraordinarily wealthy, powerful, well connected man. And
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: actually this is something he's been talking about for quite
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: some time. This idea that we've got to push for
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: the private sector and philanthropic involvement in supporting democracy. That
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: push is gaining strength. This is all part of a
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: very well backed, tightly managed global agenda for rich families
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: ultimately and the corporations that they control to take over
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: political systems, right, and it's being pushed across the whole
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: of UK govern We had and actually further afield. So
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: this is Chevorne Haveland, and she talks about the fact
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that a political is a segment of one a monopoly.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: What an incredible business modeling. She's the director General of
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the British Chambers of Commerce and very interestingly, given what
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Daniel Sacks has just said about this needing to be
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: it's not about self interest, it's about us trying to help.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Lisa Witter actually talked about a political as being a
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: one hundred billion dollar global marketplace and this is a
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: white space that they could potentially move into. That Chevon
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Haveland is very excited about for them because they've got
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: a monopoly position in order to dominate it right. She
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: also worked at WPP, she worked at Disney, and she
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: also spent some time in the Cabinet Office and she
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: helped to initiate a political as a partner of the
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Cabinet Office, very very importantly. And Els was there a
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: couple of celebs in for the mixed. Dan Snow the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: history guy, he was there to give it a little
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: bit of BBC polish. Apparently he was on Strictly. Don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you know. I don't watch Strictly. I don't own the television. Unfortunately,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: I certainly don't watch.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: The BB apologize.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the presence of the choir here, I think, and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the whole day hints around this showpiece discussion. By the way,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you should go and watch this, right it's seven and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: a half hours long. It's well worth it. I watched
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it yesterday and the amount of times I just had
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: to stop the video put my head in my hands
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and say, what is actually going on? Like who are
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: these people? And a lot of it centered around this discussion. Right,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: this was the showpiece right in the middle of the
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: day where they were talking about updating government. Can small
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: steps or sweeping changes save us from tech, geopolitical and
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: climate crises, these interconnected poly crises that are causing so
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: much consternation across the nation and certainly across central government.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: And this was divided up into a debates. On the
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: right hand side you had the team focused on revolution
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: they want a revolutionary approach to government, and on the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: left you had radical incremental. So both of those are
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: focused on change importantly, So we're going to this is
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a progressive agenda. It's an inevitable transformation. The question is
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: how quickly are we going to do it? So on
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the side of revolution, we had Generalsonnick Carter who actually
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: used the term shock and or. He said we need
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: to engage shock and awe tactics in order to progress
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: this agenda. Quite a remarkable thing to hear someone like
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: that say.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Right, and I'm just going to interject there, Ben and
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: say that Diane a little while ago was telling us
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the very sad story of somebody committing suicide as a
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: result of woke pressures. The reality is when these people
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: are talking about shock and all, they mean it. They're
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: talking about the utter breakdown of society in order to
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: in their terms, build back better. So very very dangerous
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: individual this man, and we as a combined audience for
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: UK column need to watch him very closely.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Indeed now working very closely with Tony Blair. And also
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: he's on the board of the A Political Foundation, so
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: this was actually him speaking at one of his own events.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: We also had Jeff Mulgan there flapping his arms around
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: and talking a load of expensive jargon laden rubbish as
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: per usual. Not a particularly smart man in my view,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: but he gets a lot of airtime. Also in the audience,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Rabbi Guru Murphy CEO of Nestor, who actually used to
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: be Jeff Mulgan's intern apparently how he started off in
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: his career. And actually Mulgan was the executive nestor himself.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: So this is a very very small little cabala people
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: in central government progressing this agender.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: But can I add that nest of course years ago,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: alongside Idea, alongside Common Purpose. So these all got roots
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: going all way back.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And in fact Mulgan founded Demos which shared
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: an office with Common Purpose back in the early nineties. Right.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: This is all the same, the same networks, the same people,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: and all happening under the watchful of top top, top
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: level civil servants. Right, so this is something that's happening
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: in full view of the establishment. We can see the
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: fellow on stage there with the microphone. He came up
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and spoke after the debate. By the way, the revolution
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: side won the debate, so the Shock and All team won, right,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And this is what they're putting forth. And this is
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Sir Matthew Ryecroft kcmg CBE top level civil servant, Permanent
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Secretary at the Home Office, one of the most powerful
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: people in the civil service. He's been working in Central
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: government for pretty much his entire career, and he got
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: up at the end of the debate to announce a
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: very special new partnership between a political and the British government.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Let's hear what he had to say.
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: A political are about to launch their next exciting project,
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: which is about coming up with a national strategy about
• 45:47
  Speaker 13: bringing the energy that we've had in this room into
• 45:50
  Speaker 13: the biggest challenges that our society faces, not just for
• 45:55
  Speaker 13: the hero now, but thinking ahead five years, ten years,
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: thirty years and drawing on all of you and the
• 46:02
  Speaker 13: organizations that you are part of in that endeavor. And
• 46:06
  Speaker 13: I think I'm going to hand over to Catherine and
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: then Robin to tell you more about that next challenge.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: So a political Foundation have been engaged to come up
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: with a national strategy for the UK looking five to
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: ten thirty years ahead. This is total corporate state capture
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: that we're looking at here. And who came out to
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: shed some more light on the plan. So we're going
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: to hear now from both Catherine Day, who is Deputy
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Director at the Cabinet Office, who is responsible for the
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Foresight team, which is quite entertaining given what she's about
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: to describe to us. So let's hear we're going to
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: got a few clips here from Catherine. Let's listen to
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the first one.
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: Now, how do we charge but that path to the
• 47:02
  Speaker 12: future that we decide that we want for our country?
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: How do we plan for twenty five years ahead? When
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: it's hard enough just to plan five years ahead or
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: one year in fact, I mean, think back to the
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: winter of twenty nineteen. Could you have imagined what the
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: winter of twenty twenty four would look like? So I
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: don't have the answers to this, nobody.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Does, so Ben, she doesn't have the answers. But we're
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: using these people in order to sort our lives out
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: for the next twenty years. You can't make this up, right.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: And she runs foresight for the Cabinet Office, so her
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: job is to have a vision for the future of
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: the country. That's literally what she's engaged to do. And
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: she's saying, I don't know, does anyone know? So we
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: just throw it out there and see what happens. I mean,
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: that's exactly what they're doing, right, So, and they're going
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: to do it. They've already got a plan for it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Two principles to this. Let's hear the first principle again
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: from Catherine Day.
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: So the first principle is that the vision that we
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: come up with for the UK and twenty fifty and
• 48:11
  Speaker 12: beyond needs to be designed collaboratively. It needs to be
• 48:16
  Speaker 12: designed and owned by all those who have a stake
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: in the future. So people and institutions, whether from business,
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: from academia, from civil society, from the whole of society,
• 48:33
  Speaker 12: we need to hunt far and wide for the smartest voices,
• 48:39
  Speaker 12: the best ideas. We absolutely mustn't assume that we know
• 48:44
  Speaker 12: where those will come from, and we need to be
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: smart about acting together on what they tell us. So
• 48:52
  Speaker 12: deliberative approaches that charities like involve and Sarah Castell is
• 48:56
  Speaker 12: here in the audience. These sorts of approaches are a
• 49:02
  Speaker 12: brilliant example of how we need to sort of shape
• 49:04
  Speaker 12: that collaboration.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I think deliberative of approaches, hunting far and wide, not
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: assuming where the best ideas will come from, certainly not
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: from inside the cabinet office it would appear. And let's
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: hear the second principle from Catherine Day.
• 49:23
  Speaker 12: The second principle, and this harks back to our debate topic,
• 49:27
  Speaker 12: is that we have to confront the reality that our
• 49:30
  Speaker 12: institutions do need to change. If we're going to design
• 49:34
  Speaker 12: and deliver on that collective vision that we come up with.
• 49:38
  Speaker 12: Some need to change incrementally, some need to change radically,
• 49:43
  Speaker 12: and there are probably quite a lot of gaps to fill,
• 49:46
  Speaker 12: but they all need to adapt. The system needs to change,
• 49:50
  Speaker 12: and then it needs to carry on flexing over time.
• 49:53
  Speaker 12: So I am incredibly glad that we've come together with
• 49:59
  Speaker 12: a political and that we are also convening a very
• 50:03
  Speaker 12: varied group of innovative thinkers of institutions to help us
• 50:09
  Speaker 12: answer and act on these incredibly hard but absolutely critical questions.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: So we don't know what we're doing, we don't know
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: where we're going, but we do know that we need
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to transform everything, and we're going to work with these
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: lovely ladies from a political foundation, via the World Economic
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Forum and all the other organizations that we've talked about
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: in order to crack these critical questions. Now let's hear
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: from Robin Scott, who's going to talk about what their
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: plan is to define the future vision for the country.
• 50:41
  Speaker 14: Inspired by what Catherine has set out, what Matthew has
• 50:44
  Speaker 14: just set out. Our challenge is this, and it's to
• 50:49
  Speaker 14: those of you in the room, but this is a
• 50:51
  Speaker 14: fairly British crowd. It's especially to those of you who
• 50:55
  Speaker 14: are online now and the thousands of you who will
• 50:58
  Speaker 14: see this later help the United Kingdom figure out how
• 51:05
  Speaker 14: to design and deliver a vision for twenty fifty, a
• 51:11
  Speaker 14: vision that everyone in the country can believe in, feel
• 51:15
  Speaker 14: hopeful about, one to work towards, and one to fight for.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: So Robin Scott has been asked to help the United
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Kingdom design and deliver a vision for twenty fifty that
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: we can believe in, work towards and importantly fight for,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: which I think was an interesting word issue is particularly
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: given what we've heard already today about the war in Ukraine.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Now let's hear again from Robin Scott as a little
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: speech continues.
• 51:45
  Speaker 14: Now, if you're not in the UK, you might say
• 51:47
  Speaker 14: why should you care. I don't think many in our
• 51:50
  Speaker 14: community would actually say that, but just to double click
• 51:53
  Speaker 14: on that, you should care because this is a world
• 51:56
  Speaker 14: first experiment and what the UK bravely he learns from
• 52:00
  Speaker 14: it will benefit all of you wherever you are in
• 52:04
  Speaker 14: the world.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: This is a global challenge. They are asking the entire
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: world to help define the long term vision for the
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: future of the UK. Think about that and we can't
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: do it ourselves. Apparently Cabinet office certainly can't do it.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: A political can't do it on their own. They're going
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: to ask the whole world to pitch it out to help.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable more now from Robin Scott, is you going to
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: talk about the deliberative process? The first principle that Catherine
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Day described.
• 52:37
  Speaker 14: How do you design a country level deliberative process. So
• 52:43
  Speaker 14: we don't know the exact figures, but imagine if one
• 52:46
  Speaker 14: in every ten people in Britain got to have a
• 52:49
  Speaker 14: say in what twenty fifty should look like. Imagine if
• 52:53
  Speaker 14: you had that kind of penetration of participation. That's the
• 52:57
  Speaker 14: scale that we're thinking of here. That will give this
• 53:02
  Speaker 14: the credibility that is going to endure across five election
• 53:06
  Speaker 14: cycles between now and twenty fifty. I mean, what happens
• 53:12
  Speaker 14: in one election cycle these days is tumultuous, to say
• 53:15
  Speaker 14: the least, So just imagine what you need to endure
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: across five.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: They're going to design a deliberative process which will only
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: involve about ten percent of the population because that's enough.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: You don't need to ask everybody, just ten percent, and
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: the ones that these people select by the way, and
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: they're going to create a vision that will endure across
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: five election cycles between now and twenty fifty. So they're
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: going to create this vision. It doesn't matter who he's
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: voted in. We're still going to deliver on it right
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in the name of democracy, of course, because that's what
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: these people are all about. Now, finally, let's hear about
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the institutional innovations that are going to be required. According
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: to Robin Scott.
• 53:55
  Speaker 14: The second way in which you can help is by
• 53:58
  Speaker 14: thinking through, so what kind of institutional innovations And we're
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: particularly interested in this idea of institutional incubation. How can
• 54:08
  Speaker 14: governments start to create kind of skunk works institutions to
• 54:13
  Speaker 14: do things that the big motherships find harder to do.
• 54:17
  Speaker 14: Help us think through what kind of institutional innovation is
• 54:21
  Speaker 14: needed for that.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: So they're going to scrap everything, get rid of all
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the existing institutions, implement a load of these skunk works
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: innovation type organizations all around the country in order to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: implement this vision. This is a private company. Where's the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: civil service? Where's Startler? You know, he's the Prime minister.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Has he not got a vision for the future of
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: the country. No, not that we've heard articulated. I don't
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: think and maybe this is the change agenda, the neibulus
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: change agenda, poorly defined during the general election campaign, actually
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: translates to this unfortunately. And who's it being delivered to
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: or we've heard a bit of the speech. Just have
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: a little look at the c here, let's get this
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: up on screen. Well, first of all, where is it?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: So this is in church house, all right, So this
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: is one of the most important buildings owned by the
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Church of England. But all we've heard about is power
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and money, money and power. Where's the church in all
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: of this? It's nowhere, is it? And you can see
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Christ at the top just about and they're peeking in.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: But there's no discussion about religion, there's no discussion about spirituality.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: This is all have just said about money and power, right,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's an accident. I think it's deliberate.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: They've done it in this room for a reason. And
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: who is it all for? Well, look who's sitting at
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the front on the VIP tables. This zoom in Daniel
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Sachs dead center, and then Daniel Sacks's right hand man,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Paul Alacon, who believes that the world was created for him,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: which is we've spoken about previously comes from the Babylonian Talmud,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: which maybe gives us a little clue as to what
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: this is all really about.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that. A lot more to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: be said, and we could have a lot more discussion
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: in the news. We haven't got time, but we will
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: be getting back onto this subject in extra time today. Now, Diane,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: let's bring you back on. I have taken up a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: little bit of your time, I know, but Diane, you
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: go through your segment. The subject is the British Library.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: And of course, while all this manipulation is going on
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that Benz just described, ordinary people are not to be
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: educated or read, that is all to be interfered with.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: So Diane, and the British Library appears to be participating
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: in the destruction of knowledge, or having organizations destroy its
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: knowledge for them. I'll go into a little bit of detail.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: At the British Library, there's two locations. One is in London,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: one of the Yorkshire in Boston, SPA. I was in
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: London on Friday, so I went there for a few hours.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: The British Library, if you don't know what a national
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: library is, is that what's called a legal deposit library,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: which means that it is real fired to hold a
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: copy of everything that is published in Britain. So it
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: has over one hundred and seventy million items going back
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: obviously hundreds and hundreds of years, and obviously it's very
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: important to protect what is in the library. Unfortunately, the
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: British Library sufferating very serious cyber attack in October of
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty three, which is still recovering from. It lost
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: what's said to be around six hundred gigabytes of data.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: Some of it was personal information of British Library members
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: and readers, some of it was documents, and most of
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: the online services from the British Library have been offline
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: for several months. If that's still offline, are still being restored.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: The company that seems to be responsible for this is
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: called Rescita I hope I'm saying that correctly. It's a
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: ransomware organization that they think is based in Russia. They
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: deal all of their communications and Russians in attack companies
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: and organizations around the world other than anywhere other than Russia, frankfully,
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: and they were trying to get money to get to
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: release the data back take it off the dark Web.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: And back to the British Library.
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: Unfortunately, it's the government's policy which makes sense to not
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: pay for ransomware companies who steal data from government agencies
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: and organizations. But let's look at what's going on in
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: the British Library. I had a video that I was
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: going to show, but let's skip the video for now
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: and go into some of the other content that I've
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: got here for you, because I think this is a
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: really important talking to talk about, which I've covered previously,
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: which is decolonization of libraries. I wrote about this in
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: January twenty twenty four in the Scottish Union for Education,
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: where I explain that decolonization means that basically it's all
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: about whiteness and white privilege and saying that white people
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: are colonizers, are pressers for the settlers, and that non
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: white people are the oppressed. The former British Empire is
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: presented as a prime example of colonization, but in Britain itself,
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: people who are British are white originally, and that goes
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: back hundreds of years into history. So apologizing for your
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: existence in Britain and then the British Library collections really
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: doesn't make as much sense as you know it might
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: in other places, let's say. So when the British Library
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: reopened in September twenty twenty, it started to put this
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: anti racism decolonization thing into action. And one example this
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: can be seen on kind of on the first floor
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: when you enter into the British Library, these busts of
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: famous men from British history. So of course the colonializing
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: dead white men so to speak, that they liked to
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: talk about, and what they have done is added descriptions
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  Speaker 5: to say, well, here's what these men did. They were botanists,
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  Speaker 5: they were physicians, they did important things, but they were
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  Speaker 5: also colonizers and so on. So they are kind of
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  Speaker 5: adding these apologetic disclaimers to the existence of some of these.
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  Speaker 6: Men that were famous in British history.
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  Speaker 5: And there's a book that was published by the Stillep
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  Speaker 5: organization in twenty twenty one, I believe it was published,
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  Speaker 5: and it has a chapter and it called towards Decolonizing
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  Speaker 5: the British Library as staff led Perspective, and it goes
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  Speaker 5: in particular into some of these men. So here's just
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  Speaker 5: a couple examples of the busts of the men saying well, yes,
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  Speaker 5: these were some of the colonizers and these are the
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  Speaker 5: same things you can see in the first floor on
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  Speaker 5: this book. Chapter has these full statements that they have
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  Speaker 5: issued apologies for what these men did that.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't think was quite so good.
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  Speaker 5: If you open to the sort of the Treasure's Exhibition,
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  Speaker 5: which is a permanent exhibition in the British Library, we
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  Speaker 5: see amazing things.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the Magna Carta.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's worth mentioning that the Big Macatter still
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  Speaker 5: does exist. It has been attacked in recent months where
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  Speaker 5: they've tried to break through the blasts and vandalize it
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  Speaker 5: and try to do that, but it's been protected. We
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  Speaker 5: have other amazing things that it shows early versions of
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  Speaker 5: psalms written in Latin that were some of the first
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  Speaker 5: published Bibles, King James Bible Bibles, and other origins as well.
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  Speaker 5: But some of the sort of more featured, more recent
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  Speaker 5: exhibitions that features in this area are you actually start
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  Speaker 5: to see the decolonization as well as the WOK agenda,
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  Speaker 5: the EDII agenda coming into taking over some of the collection.
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  Speaker 5: Soquer Lives and Literature is one of the current exhibitions
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  Speaker 5: talking about LGBTQ or you know, identities and so on,
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  Speaker 5: and they pulled up some examples from their collections to
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  Speaker 5: demonstrate this. For example, a man who talked about changing
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  Speaker 5: his gender. So we're seeing early early issues of you know,
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  Speaker 5: gender ideology, changing gender wherever this happened. We see other
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  Speaker 5: things around homosexuality. So just bringing out that again, that
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  Speaker 5: EDI agenda and the priorities that EDI is bringing out
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  Speaker 5: into people. There was a small exhibition on migration talking
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  Speaker 5: about how migration has happened in Britain for a very
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  Speaker 5: long time, which of course we know maybe not to
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  Speaker 5: the extent that it has now. So as I after
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  Speaker 5: I saw these exhibitions, I've been into the bookstore and
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  Speaker 5: so what are the things that are being highlighted the
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  Speaker 5: bookstore again, it's it's a ligne again with the EDI agenda,
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  Speaker 5: we see brown girl like me, asylum seekers, we have
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: let's go through these pretty quickly, Black and British. It's
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  Speaker 5: a continent Afropian black history.
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  Speaker 6: Every day of the year.
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  Speaker 5: We have here queer women, queer lives, Queer London, queer footprints,
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  Speaker 5: Eco London. So there's the climate change stuff going on.
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  Speaker 5: We just have one shelf with cure Starmer's biography. Right
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  Speaker 5: in the center we have a book by Tony Blair,
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  Speaker 5: so we see that they're even the influence on the
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  Speaker 5: leftist politics coming out. And what else do we have?
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  Speaker 5: We have how to I won't say the word off men,
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  Speaker 5: So that's one hundred and nine things to say to
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  Speaker 5: shatter the male ego.
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  Speaker 6: Got to learn about that.
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  Speaker 5: And in the children's section we have Glasgow places. We
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  Speaker 5: have the Black Curriculum, so places in Black British history
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  Speaker 5: such as Blazo and Edinburgh, what happened in black history?
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  Speaker 5: And what else do we have? We have amazing facts
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  Speaker 5: about Kamala Harris, which is a particular interest. I was
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: hoping that would have gone away by now. But in
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: the children's section we also have gender swapped fairy tales.
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  Speaker 5: So these are the things that are being highlighted. And
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: outside the British Library there were these posters all over
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  Speaker 5: the street right outside Saint Pancras Station, kings Prass, London,
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  Speaker 5: euston socialist ideas to change the world marks as and
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  Speaker 5: weekend are so this coming weekend, if you're not going
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: to a peace march or something important, you can go
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  Speaker 5: here about socialist ideas. Down in London as advertised outside
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  Speaker 5: the British Library, so feel free to go.
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  Speaker 6: To that.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly targeted attack on people. We're not going to get
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  Speaker 1: knowledge from libraries. We're simply going to get reframing propaganda
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