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Ennea-Christmas Part #2 The Head Triad (Types 5, 6, 7) with Janay Lanier, Gwen Sledge, Kristen Yeh · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_01: Brands, parties, and presents.
0:04
SPEAKER_01: Man, these days always go by in a board.
0:07
SPEAKER_01: But what is Abbott really all about?
0:11
SPEAKER_01: Abbott is your citation to take a step back.
0:15
SPEAKER_01: For eight years, I've gathered and invited you here to slow down and 15 minutes is something over 50%.
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SPEAKER_01: 50 minutes is about 50 minutes, and three to multiple 50, 20, 50, 50, 15 minutes, 33 steps, 50, 36, 10, 50, 40, 50, 30, 50, 50, 50, 10.
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SPEAKER_01: So 50, 50, 35, 50, 30, 36, 15, 15, and 30, 30, 10, 10, 50, 5, 6, 10, 20, and meet right where we find ourselves.
0:50
SPEAKER_01: So welcome to the eighth annual advent podcast series, where we will learn a little, laugh a lot, and focus on celebrating with our wholesale.
1:05
SPEAKER_01: Welcome back, my friend, to part two of the Enneochmas Celebration Styles series.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: This year, I've invited my fellow wholehearted coaches to share and represent each Enneagram type and share what lights them up most with joy when it comes to all things Christmas.
1:23
SPEAKER_01: And for the eighth annual Christmas series, I've decided to have three separate conversations with the three instinctual triads representing their unique group.
1:34
SPEAKER_01: So this conversation today is with the head triad group, the Enneagram 5, 6, and 7.
1:43
SPEAKER_01: They're going to share their unique take on what their personality brings to the celebration table, a fruitful advent hack or system or way of doing things.
1:55
SPEAKER_01: They're going to also share something that they've done this year that reflects growth for their personality type.
2:02
SPEAKER_01: And they're going to share something they've done this year that most reflects or represents their personality type.
2:09
SPEAKER_01: Of course, I know you're going to want to get to know these women better and learn more from them and their wholehearted journey.
2:16
SPEAKER_01: So be sure to follow the links in the show notes.
2:18
SPEAKER_01: So first of all, you can say thank you for sharing their story on the podcast and just to connect with them there.
2:26
SPEAKER_01: All right, friend, let's jump into some lighthearted fun for the holiday.
2:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm so excited to have you guys in the same room.
2:35
SPEAKER_01: And for us to be having these conversations and groupings of triads, I'm anticipating commonalities once again because with my hard triad friends, we absolutely, there was some shared, like, oh yes, me too, and moments of, oh yeah, no wait, that's not what I do, or just, you know, some shared similarities.
2:57
SPEAKER_01: So that's really fun.
2:58
SPEAKER_01: And that's not a pressure expectation.
3:00
SPEAKER_01: It's just, I'm pretty sure that's gonna be happening with all of all of these conversations.
3:05
SPEAKER_01: So I'm excited for you to introduce yourself to my friend here who's listening.
3:11
SPEAKER_01: And I'd love for you to do that by sharing your name, where you're coming from, and then what you feel your personality type adds to the celebration table.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna just dive in right away with the goodness of Christmas celebration styles.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Kristen, how about you kick us off?
3:30
SPEAKER_03: Hi, my name is Kristen Ye, and I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
3:35
SPEAKER_03: And my type adds fun conversation starters to the holiday table.
3:42
SPEAKER_03: We did this for Thanksgiving last year, and it was a big hit.
3:46
SPEAKER_03: So I've extended it to Christmas.
3:49
SPEAKER_03: I've gathered a group of questions and put them in a bowl, and we pass it around, and it just keeps the conversation going and it allows the quieter people to have space to participate.
4:02
SPEAKER_03: And I always learn new things about my family.
4:06
SPEAKER_03: So it's been really fun.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: That's a brilliant idea.
4:10
SPEAKER_01: How thoughtful to come prepared with it and not just springing people with questions because that's what I would do.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: I would just be thinking ahead of time of what questions I want to ask and just like surprise.
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Here we're going.
4:24
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: I love that, Kristen.
4:27
SPEAKER_01: All right, Gwen.
4:29
SPEAKER_02: My name is Gwen Sledge, and I live in Nashville, Tennessee.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm a type six, and I believe that uh the type six brings warmth to the room.
4:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they are typically scanning the room and reading the room to make sure that everyone feels welcome and is included, and um also thinking about just they're often going to be the one who is aware of the food allergies and makes sure that everyone has, you know, equal opportunity, uh, equal dishes, and and but also being very careful that those people are not singled out and uh that there's you know not attention brought to them for having those restrictions.
5:12
SPEAKER_02: And then the other thing I think that they bring is humor.
5:16
SPEAKER_02: When a six can relax and not take life so seriously, they often are so funny.
5:24
SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, I think that's what the six can bring to the table.
5:29
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
5:31
SPEAKER_01: I I've seen where I've grown in that area, my six wing, which I had to work on exercising more.
5:38
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm learning to bring that balance.
5:40
SPEAKER_01: And I I love how you said that.
5:42
SPEAKER_01: I know some sixes who feel that they're more in the phobic category would maybe balk at some of that language that you use, but I feel like that is so sick, like that just encompasses all the beauty that you bring.
5:56
SPEAKER_01: And I love that about sixes, and so you said that so well.
6:00
SPEAKER_01: It's so good.
6:03
SPEAKER_01: Janae, how about you?
6:06
SPEAKER_01: How about you wrap up that introduction?
6:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so excited to be here, you guys.
6:12
SPEAKER_04: My name is Janae, and I'm from eastern North Carolina, and so I live right off the coast by a little town called Surf City, which I always like to mention because that sounds really cool.
6:24
SPEAKER_04: And it does sound very cool, and it really is.
6:27
SPEAKER_04: It's it's a really cool town.
6:29
SPEAKER_04: And I have the world's greatest husband in the world, he's a two, and so it's really fun getting to do life as a seven with a sweet two husband.
6:38
SPEAKER_04: And we have a five-year-old named Sage, and we have today, she is a now a nine-month-old.
6:46
SPEAKER_04: When we were we are recording this, she is officially a nine-month-old.
6:48
SPEAKER_04: Her name is Layton, and it is so fun having two little girls.
6:53
SPEAKER_04: Maybe we'll get a boy next.
6:55
SPEAKER_04: We would love that.
6:56
SPEAKER_04: But so far, we're living the girl mom life, and I fell in love with the Enneagram about two and a half, three years ago now, and it has changed my world, changed my marriage.
7:09
SPEAKER_04: So, as a typical seven, I have to share it with everybody.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: I love that about you.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: So, what are you bringing specifically to the celebration table as a full-on enthusiastic seven?
7:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I feel like it's interesting because I don't know that this is gonna be a typical seven answer, but I always, okay, it isn't, it is and it isn't.
7:35
SPEAKER_04: So I love bringing the joy for sure, but specifically, I will see who is going to be at the celebration.
7:43
SPEAKER_04: I've always been very peculiar to whatever, because you know, we have you have different families, you're going to different events for, you know, at throughout your life.
7:51
SPEAKER_04: It holidays can look somewhat different.
7:54
SPEAKER_04: And I have to share this because I think it's so fun.
7:57
SPEAKER_04: But as a little girl, I would create dances specifically for the people that were gonna be at the celebration.
8:04
SPEAKER_04: I would even go as far as like, my dad's been listening to this song a lot this year, and he's had a hard time lately, and I know that this song would make him happy, right?
8:13
SPEAKER_04: So I would like love to please people in that way and bring joy in that way.
8:17
SPEAKER_04: And then I noticed as like a teenager, I would look at the group and say, what fun game can I bring to bring the whole group together?
8:25
SPEAKER_04: And then now in the recent years, I've really been into gift giving, like very intentional gift giving, um, and bringing the joy in that way.
8:34
SPEAKER_04: And so I think that's what I add.
8:36
SPEAKER_04: And it's been really fun to look through the years how that changes.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: Can we just talk about the entertainer right there where you summed up in your unique way?
8:50
SPEAKER_01: That is brilliant, spot on.
8:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
8:53
SPEAKER_03: Good times.
8:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: I think I think that's funny, Janae, because while I didn't do dances, my sisters and I, when we were little, we put on little skits during holiday events.
9:07
SPEAKER_03: And so how fun.
9:09
SPEAKER_03: We did a Thanksgiving Day skit, and one of my sisters was the turkey, and one of my sisters was the the Native American, and I was the table.
9:21
SPEAKER_00: That was my job.
9:22
SPEAKER_00: Are you serious?
9:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, Kristen.
9:26
SPEAKER_01: That is hilarious of all the things.
9:29
SPEAKER_01: The table.
9:31
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: No lines, so that had to be easy.
9:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I was just under the table.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: Too cute.
9:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's right.
9:41
SPEAKER_02: You guys are you guys are reminding me of my seven wing, something that I haven't thought of in years is I used to bring out the hairbrush and pretend to be Loretta Lynn when I was a little girl for our guest.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: Not necessarily at Christmas, but just whenever anyone would come over.
9:58
SPEAKER_02: And that is definitely not my personality today.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: But I really I do enjoy having sevens at the gathering because they pull on my seven wing and I love that.
10:10
SPEAKER_01: Gwen, my challenge to you this holiday is pull out the hairbrush and give a little performance.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: My family would not be appreciative.
10:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness, this is good.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay, awesome answers, of course.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: Now, here's a maybe a little bit more serious, but each one of you has a system or hack or rhythm that you have found has worked for you over the years and the, you know, preparing for the holidays, or there's all sorts of things, right?
10:42
SPEAKER_01: So what would you offer to us as a helpful insight that has helped you?
10:50
SPEAKER_01: And I think Kristen, we're gonna start with you uh again.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: Why don't you tell us what has helped you over the years?
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Well, I thought of a few things, and some of these have evolved over the years, but I love throughout the year keeping a list of little things that I notice about people in my phone.
11:11
SPEAKER_03: So, for example, one of my kids did an art camp over the summer, and one of the activities was he had to choose two of his favorite candies, and then we had to submit it to the teacher before the art camp.
11:22
SPEAKER_03: And he chose two that I would not have thought about.
11:25
SPEAKER_03: And so I made a note of that in uh my Evernote list for Christmas 2024.
11:33
SPEAKER_03: And it just helps with stocking stuffers, just remembering little things about people because I don't want to get to the end of the year and think, I don't know what to buy.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: So I'm trying to keep a running tally of just little things that I notice about people.
11:48
SPEAKER_03: And then uh one of the other things I do is I make a massive menu plan for Christmas Eve and Christmas, and I do as much as I can ahead of time and I ask my family for help so that I'm not cooking on those days.
12:03
SPEAKER_03: So anything that I can make ahead that I can freeze that I can have ready, we do that.
12:08
SPEAKER_03: And then a few years ago, we started a family tradition where each member of the family is responsible to bake one batch of their fair, their favorite Christmas cookie.
12:20
SPEAKER_03: And so with five of us at home, that's an automatic five cookies, and it just helps with the variety, and then everybody gets their favorite.
12:31
SPEAKER_03: And I usually choose a really easy cookie to make, and so it's just been really fun to see what they pick and then what cookies they have each year with that.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: All of these are so smart, and I'd like to just applaud you.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: I hear the four-wing and your first tip of taking notes along the way and noticing.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: So, well done.
12:55
SPEAKER_01: This is good.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely gonna try some of these hacks, especially with the cookie.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: That's like the sweetest mom thing ever, I feel like to take note, and that just reminds me of Jesus.
13:06
SPEAKER_04: Like he takes note of even the littlest things.
13:07
SPEAKER_04: But that the fact that you wrote down his favorite candy when you saw that it's just really sweet.
13:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's good.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
13:16
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Janae, how about you chime in real quick?
13:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so and I feel like this answer has to do with the season of life that I'm in, but I have littles.
13:25
SPEAKER_04: And in the past five years, there's been postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety.
13:30
SPEAKER_04: There's been lots of hormones, obviously.
13:32
SPEAKER_04: There has been overstimulation.
13:35
SPEAKER_04: And so, with that, I have found it has been very life-giving in my season for my husband and I to both be okay with the morning of or the week of the big holiday, really saying, okay, so a month ago we were all for all of these family get-togethers, but where are we actually right now?
13:54
SPEAKER_04: And it being okay, like giving ourselves the permission to say, I can't make that event the full five hours, or I can't even make the drive to get there.
14:03
SPEAKER_04: And so, you know, being able to give each other permission to say, hey, why don't you go with the girls?
14:09
SPEAKER_04: I'll stay and I'll get there a little bit later, or just giving yourself flexibility and not being hard on yourself.
14:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
14:16
SPEAKER_04: Not being mean to yourself, but say that's okay.
14:19
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, and that has been just great.
14:22
SPEAKER_04: That's a game changer.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:24
SPEAKER_01: Really, really great wisdom there, Janae.
14:27
SPEAKER_01: I love that you guys are doing that, and that could be really helpful for most couples with all of these parties, whether they're family gatherings or work parties or friend time.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: It for each of us it can hit us differently and to give each other the grace and the space for that.
14:45
SPEAKER_01: Really good.
14:46
SPEAKER_01: All right, Gwen, coming in with the Enneagram six hack.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: I would say my hack would be very similar to yours, Kristen, in that I plan really at the first of November.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: I make my list.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: I have an ongoing grocery list.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: My kids are extremely traditional.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: So if you do a meal, uh, you know, certain dishes one year, like their first year, I think we've done the same dishes every since because they just really like for things to be the same every year.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: So I know even without the list, that you know, that I'm gonna need many, many packages of sausage, for example, for different dishes that they enjoy or whatever.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: So I start that now and just start in November buying those things and getting that prepared and then you know, also cooking ahead of time as much as possible so that I can really try to be present where my feet are.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: But my girls, I've got adult daughters today, so we do enjoy getting in the kitchen together and and they are, and my husband as well, tremendously helpful when it comes to that.
15:57
SPEAKER_02: So that's my I would say my hack.
16:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh the a rhythm that I really have found to be life-giving is once my uh Christmas decorations go up, typically not until the weekend of Thanksgiving, but really considering moving that back just because the morning time in the darkness with the fireplace on, the white lights on, the tree lit, and just my time with the Lord in the morning before the busyness of the day starts is probably it's my favorite time of year simply because of that.
16:37
SPEAKER_02: And so last year I left my decorations up through as long as my husband would tolerate them, which turned out to be towards the end of January, and then he was over it.
16:47
SPEAKER_02: So it's just so relaxing to me to sit there in the quiet and get into the headspace that uh the Lord would have me move into my day, and so yeah, that's my favorite rhythm of the whole year, I think.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's so good.
17:02
SPEAKER_01: You're not the first one to mention that.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna just dub it a wholehearted rhythm that we who are like-minded and moving in that whole-hearted frame of reference.
17:15
SPEAKER_01: It's just it's so fitting.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: And I agree, I concur with all of that.
17:19
SPEAKER_01: And I appreciate your ability to provide that consistent comfort dishes through, you know, through year after year, where I'm always like, what new thing can I make?
17:28
SPEAKER_01: And I experiment the day of the holiday, which is not wise.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: So I'm learning.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm remembering to ask, okay, guys, what cookies are important or what's that dish that's you know, Miles, all he wants is mashed potatoes.
17:41
SPEAKER_01: So I have to make copious amounts of mashed potatoes.
17:45
SPEAKER_03: So I'm with you, Gwen.
17:48
SPEAKER_03: We have pretty much the same menu for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, and the whole family looks forward to it all year long.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's great.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: You know, I'll be curious to see how that evolves too over the years.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: Now that I have little, you know, grands and we've got a five-year-old granddaughter and a three-year-old grandson.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: And I would never dream of producing a meal at my home, a holiday meal without mashed potatoes.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: My granddaughter reminds me frequently that she does not like white creamy things.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: So I thought I'd be curious to see what gets added to the table with their preferences and likes and dislikes.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes, so true.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: Well, that's great.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, Gwynn, actually, how about you kick off by answering our next question?
18:35
SPEAKER_01: And this was what is the most Enneagram your type?
18:40
SPEAKER_01: So Enneagram six thing that you've done this year.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: And I, you know, I framed it out like it could be funny, it could be serious.
18:48
SPEAKER_01: What is that for you?
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Well, sadly, this one's gonna be a little bit more serious.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: And as I have been thinking about this, it was a little bit hard for me to come up with, and then lo and behold, I received a letter in the mail.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: And definitely the most fixed thing that I've done this year, I have received for the fourth time my summons for jury duty.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: And so the most fixed thing that I've done this year is current, and I am currently coaching myself off the ledge because that is while I do want to fulfill my civic duty, it's I can't think of very many things that I would uh prefer not to do more.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: So it it creates intense anxiety for me to think about just you know, making decisions of someone that affects someone's life so seriously.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: And uh so yeah, that's a more serious one, but that is top of mind right now.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: And I would be curious to hear if other sixes out there feel the same way, but yeah, that's where I am.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: And for some reason the government just loves to choose my name over and over and over again.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Gwen, that is very unlucky and my butt push against it again, willing to do my civic duty, but how constraining and confining and limiting all the things like you are telling me to wear win, and I don't have any control over this, and so and in December.
20:25
SPEAKER_02: This is I think maybe the third out of the four times that I've been called has always been in December.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: One was July, but December is a good month to have jury duty, even though it's really, really it's busy for us.
20:42
SPEAKER_02: It tends to be lighter for the court systems because of the holidays.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: And so I don't know if it's good or bad, but it's it's always December, and my birthday's December.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: So I wonder if that might have something to do with it.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: So that is wild.
20:59
SPEAKER_01: And here's to hoping that there's no cases and you get dismissed quickly.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Amen.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: Four times is wild.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: I know.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm older than you all, but I'm not that old.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: No, no, that's pretty extraordinary.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Makes me a little nervous.
21:18
SPEAKER_01: I figured after a couple times, that's good enough for a while, right?
21:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Janae, how about you?
21:25
SPEAKER_01: What's the most seven thing that you've done this year?
21:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
21:30
SPEAKER_04: So John, my husband, has a new work schedule.
21:34
SPEAKER_04: He he started towards the beginning of the year.
21:36
SPEAKER_04: So he is working and it's just for a season, and it's not gonna be forever, but it's not very great.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: It's three night shifts, which causes him to be very tired even on the days he's not working.
21:46
SPEAKER_04: And so I'm doing more solo parenting here in the season.
21:50
SPEAKER_04: And I have signed us up for so many like season passes.
21:56
SPEAKER_04: The zoo, we're going.
21:58
SPEAKER_04: The aquarium, we're going.
22:00
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
22:01
SPEAKER_04: The children's museum.
22:02
SPEAKER_04: We're going because it's just not always a fun time to be home for hours with two kids by yourself.
22:08
SPEAKER_04: And it's just easier.
22:10
SPEAKER_04: The drive, oh my goodness, when we're driving to and from, I get silenced and I put Amy's podcast in my ear.
22:17
SPEAKER_04: And so I was thinking about it and I was like, that is absolutely such a seven thing.
22:23
SPEAKER_04: And I'm even like calling the grandparents like, wanna gift us an annual house?
22:29
SPEAKER_05: Let's go.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:30
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
22:31
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: Right there with you.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: I had it down what the different seasonal things were and how to rotate them and what to ask for.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: So I just like your mothering style.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: I can totally relate.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: That's good.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: And it gives you such flexibility.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Like you can decide the day of where you want to go.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: That's right.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: 100%, Kristen.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Speaking her language.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: All right.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: On that note, Kristen, how about for you?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: What's the most Enneagram 5 thing you've done?
23:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:06
SPEAKER_03: I have wanted to go away all by myself for a silent weekend retreat for quite some time.
23:15
SPEAKER_03: And you know, I've been dreaming about, you know, just me, my Bible, a few books, my journal.
23:21
SPEAKER_03: And so a couple weeks ago, I booked a little cabin on a nearby lake for two nights.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: And so at the time of recording, I'm going next weekend.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: I will be there for two nights.
23:33
SPEAKER_03: So I am really looking forward to the peace and the quiet and just the space to do some deep thinking.
23:42
SPEAKER_03: And I'm really looking forward to it.
23:44
SPEAKER_03: And so it seems like a very, very, very five-fat to go away for a weekend all by myself.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: All by myself.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: That sounds dreaming.
23:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: So dreamy.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Janae and Amy go, hey, girls line five, let's go.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's good.
24:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm so excited for that for you.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: It is going to be perfect, especially right before the busy season.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: So that's awesome.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: All right.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: Now the gift list.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: I've loved offering like the Enneagram gift guide list over the years and I've refined it and expanded upon it.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: And it's not like a click here to buy this thing.
24:24
SPEAKER_01: It's really just the heart and motive behind what we desire or why we're asking things.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: And so I'm always curious to vet it though.
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I always want to like, am I on the right track?
24:36
SPEAKER_01: Is this really true?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: So the next question is what gift on your list most reflects growth for your type?
24:43
SPEAKER_01: So not just to box us in, because yes, seven's love experiences.
24:48
SPEAKER_01: And so a growth that would be our typical thing, but what reflects growth, that line of growth, right?
24:53
SPEAKER_01: So Janae and I, it might be asking for a solo weekend alone, because that would be growth.
24:58
SPEAKER_01: But how about Gwen?
24:59
SPEAKER_01: How about you kick up off that answer?
25:03
SPEAKER_02: So for me, it would be one of the gifts, it's actually the gift that I buy but also receive every single year.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, my younger daughter, Gabrielle, really enjoys puzzles, and I do as well, but I very seldom will allow myself to just be that frivolous with my time to just work a puzzle.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: And because once I start it, I stay up until it's complete.
25:29
SPEAKER_02: It does not matter if I stay up all night.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I can't stop.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: So oh my gosh.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: So I don't, I just don't do that very often, but I really enjoy it.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: So when my daughter was little, I did it again.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: You don't realize that you're starting a tradition, but you do.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: Right.
25:44
SPEAKER_02: And so every year I've given her a puzzle for Christmas.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: But early on, we used to travel in the evening on Christmas night, and as they got a little bit older, they wanted to be at home, you know, with their toys and things like that.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: So we've never left home on Christmas morning, but even through those years, we didn't travel at night to family um celebrations either.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: And so we would pull the puzzle out.
26:13
SPEAKER_02: So nearly every Christmas night we put this puzzle together or at least sometime on their Christmas break.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: So that reflects growth for me just because it's it's it's really enjoyable to spend that time with her, but also just love to just take that time and be frivolous with it and not feel like I need to be productive.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, to just be and be together in each other's company.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Now that you guys are, you know, your different homes and they're adults, uh, do they all come back and you guys do this together in a different day, or how's that tradition held up?
26:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, now that we have moved to Nashville, we had been in separate cities because we lived in Kentucky for all of our life until a couple years ago, but we're within about 15 to 20 minutes of each other.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, they can to us.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh well, we go to our grandkids on Christmas morning because again, we don't want them to have to leave their home and we you know want to be part of their celebration.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: And our my um husband's parents always a tradition that they started because we didn't travel, they would surprise us at our home at about 5 a.m.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: on Christmas morning.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: They would drive two hours to be able to see my kids have Christmas, and they would just flip in with their little cup of coffee and watch my kids have Christmas, and then they would slide right back out and we would just continue on.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: So we do that with our kids.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: We try not to take over their celebration and let them enjoy their Christmas morning with their babies, and then in the evening we gather and have dinner, and so yeah, the puzzle comes out after that.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I I love that tip, Gwen.
27:59
SPEAKER_01: I, you know, I'm at that point where we've launched one kid and she'll be coming back because she's in college and you know, all of that.
28:08
SPEAKER_01: But I've been wondering like, what will those traditions look like in the future?
28:11
SPEAKER_01: And I love that idea of being able, if you happen to be close by.
28:15
SPEAKER_01: And also I love that you kind of told the backstory to your accent because we have two beautiful, you know, little southern accents, a little different, but the Kentucky um is a fun one to note and give cling to, even though now you're happily residing in Nashville.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: So that's awesome.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: Those are so good.
28:33
SPEAKER_01: All right, Janae, how about you?
28:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I feel like that my my gift is quite in Eagram five-ish, my line of growth.
28:44
SPEAKER_04: And I'm really excited about it.
28:46
SPEAKER_04: But I have been working on like a prayer closet, a time where I can't can't get distracted.
28:51
SPEAKER_04: My kids can't get to me because it's upstairs and it's locked.
28:55
SPEAKER_04: And um, but I still have so many gifts and things that I would like to ask for to go in it.
29:00
SPEAKER_04: But I've already been using it and I'm thrilled.
29:03
SPEAKER_04: It it works, it really works.
29:05
SPEAKER_04: It doesn't work.
29:06
SPEAKER_04: My phone's not allowed in there, and no matter where I look, whether I I have coloring books in there, it's like scripture coloring books, no matter what I'm doing, whether it's singing, I can look to my right and it's a prayer wall of people, I'm things I'm praying for, quotes, just Jesus is everywhere in it, and I it it's causing me to not get distracted and be here and be there and be there.
29:27
SPEAKER_04: I'm just I'm slower in that room.
29:29
SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, that's my oh, it's so good.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: I got the behind the scenes video, and I love this because I don't know if I've ever told you, Janae, but I had a prayer closet like that as well for years because our house is old and creaky, and I would wake up so early and my kids were such light sleepers.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: And so I would end up waking them up if I went out and like made my coffee and you know, did the things like, and of course, the whole goal was to try to get up before them.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, I ended up putting like a baby crib mattress in the closet so I'd have someplace to have to sit and did that whole closet thing.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: And then that movie came out.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: What was it?
30:10
SPEAKER_01: The war room.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, no way, this is so cool.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: But it was a game changer, and I just love that.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: Yours is way prettier than mine ever.
30:21
SPEAKER_01: But I'm excited to contribute to the war room um beauty that you've got going on.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: It's so great.
30:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh, thank you so much.
30:28
SPEAKER_04: It's great, it's fun.
30:29
SPEAKER_04: And I got it all from the dollar store thus far.
30:32
SPEAKER_04: Like when we get our minds set on something, poor John, he had that whole closet so beautifully like um organized, and all of a sudden he comes home.
30:41
SPEAKER_04: I have everything pulled out of the closet.
30:44
SPEAKER_04: And he's like, What are we doing?
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Are you moving me out?
30:50
SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
30:50
SPEAKER_01: I know the night shift's been rough, but yeah.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Uh okay, I'm gonna need to see a picture.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, you do need it, Gwen.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: It's so great.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I will do it.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: I can do that.
31:01
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we can put a picture in the show notes for you for if anybody is interested.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, I hope you posted that to Instagram because it's great.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I will.
31:11
SPEAKER_04: I will.
31:11
SPEAKER_04: I don't need you know what, that's my permission because I'm like, I can't post it until I get it perfectly beautiful and complete to influence everyone.
31:20
SPEAKER_04: Like, no, maybe I could just inspire someone with getting started.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: 100%, 100%.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
31:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Kristen, how about you?
31:31
SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm very anti-five when it comes to making a list because I actually prefer to just be surprised.
31:41
SPEAKER_03: So I don't I don't make a Christmas list, I want the joy of not knowing what I am going to get.
31:50
SPEAKER_03: And my favorite gifts, and I I guess this does align with my seven line of growth.
31:56
SPEAKER_03: My favorite gifts are creative experiences, you know, and people have given me some really, really creative ones.
32:05
SPEAKER_03: And so that's been a lot of fun.
32:07
SPEAKER_03: But anything that they give me that shows that they know me or have been paying attention to what I like is amazing.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: It's huge.
32:18
SPEAKER_01: And Kristen, look at you already, like you've been in your line of growth.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: Surprise me, and that whole vein of thinking, I love it.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: I I think that is so good.
32:28
SPEAKER_03: Um well, when the kids were little, we still do this, but we would pile them all in the car and we would go on a surprise road trip.
32:36
SPEAKER_03: And so it would always be something fun, you know, it would never be something bad, but it could be, you know, going out for ice cream or going to a new park or going to see a movie, or you know, it could be going to visit somebody.
32:49
SPEAKER_03: Um, but I've planned all those surprises and it's been fun to do that.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: And I think I like to be surprised in return.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh, well, I hope your family listens to this and gets the nudge to remember what mom loves.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: Uh, that is really good.
33:07
SPEAKER_01: That just is fun to know about you, Kristen.
33:09
SPEAKER_01: I I didn't know that.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: So I selfishly am loving these conversations because, you know, I've shared that these are wholehearted coaches.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: So I've gotten to work with you for a lot of times and we work interface on the regular, but these are just conversations we maybe wouldn't otherwise have.
33:27
SPEAKER_01: So let the hearer understand one, you're you're getting inside scoops before I have, or at the same time I'm having them.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: But also, these questions might be super helpful to bring to the dinner table the holiday celebration.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: And you just, you'll learn something new.
33:44
SPEAKER_01: So I love that.
33:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay, our time is going by so quickly, and I'm having a ton of fun, but I'd love to wrap up with each of you answering this question of what is your favorite holiday decoration?
33:58
SPEAKER_01: I love finding this out again.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: It's another facet in depth.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: Usually it's tied to tradition.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: And so what is that for you?
34:07
SPEAKER_01: And maybe there's a couple.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: I'll let you share a couple, but and today, how about we start with you this time?
34:14
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
34:15
SPEAKER_04: Okay, since you gave permission to share a couple, I'll share the second one as well.
34:19
SPEAKER_04: But my first one is definitely the stockings.
34:22
SPEAKER_04: Like I love hanging stockings on the fireplace.
34:26
SPEAKER_04: And Gwen, I already hung mine, I already put up some Christmas.
34:31
SPEAKER_04: This is great.
34:33
SPEAKER_04: Yes, so much work goes into it.
34:36
SPEAKER_04: And I do, you know, I want to enjoy it as long as I can because there is a lot of work that goes into Christmas decorating sometimes.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: But uh yeah, and this year, now that we have Leighton, I was able to buy her her little L that hangs, and then the stocking hangs on it, and then we put you know, unique things like you were saying, Kristen, the special candies that you took note of.
34:56
SPEAKER_04: Like I love that we get to put the that those types of things in their stocking, and it's a really fun tradition.
35:02
SPEAKER_04: And then the Christmas tree is absolutely second, second up.
35:06
SPEAKER_01: But that's awesome.
35:08
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so white lights are color lights.
35:11
SPEAKER_04: White lights.
35:12
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
35:12
SPEAKER_04: White, okay, white lights for the living room.
35:15
SPEAKER_04: My there's there's a little Christmas tree for Sage's room and my room.
35:18
SPEAKER_04: We can do fun, fun stuff in there, but the living room, I really love like the classic I Greek when getting up in the morning when it's so dark outside and seeing those white lights.
35:27
SPEAKER_04: The color lights, I think, just for my season of life can be ever stimulating.
35:32
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
35:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, and you you noted that you so do you not embroider the stockings like you don't put the name on it, you get a letter hanging that denotes the name.
35:48
SPEAKER_04: The letter.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: The letter gets because I want to change stockings here and there.
35:52
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
35:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to be, I don't want to be committed to the stocking.
35:56
SPEAKER_04: And so um, the stocking in itself, it just goes with whatever thing I'm going right now.
36:01
SPEAKER_04: We have just beautiful white, big ones, it's not even like kid friendly looking, but the uh yeah, the we each get a little sign with our initial that's fantastic.
36:11
SPEAKER_01: Ours are position on the wall because we have a big rock fireplace thing, and so everyone knows the order.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I've never gotten names on it because exactly I bought them probably 12 years ago, but I didn't want to commit to getting them in order to be here.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: We are I've had it for 12 years.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should, you know, pipe a bullet.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: But then this that would be the year I'd find a new one and be like, oh, I need new stockings.
36:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh, of course.
36:41
SPEAKER_04: It would, it would for sure, but don't cage me in.
36:43
SPEAKER_04: I don't want to have to commit to the stockings my whole life.
36:46
SPEAKER_03: I think that's so funny because I'm still using the stocking that I had when I was a little girl.
36:54
SPEAKER_03: No way.
36:55
SPEAKER_04: But that's so sweet.
36:56
SPEAKER_04: I love I do love that.
36:58
SPEAKER_04: I should probably do that for my kids.
37:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
37:02
SPEAKER_01: All right, so we're gonna get something embroidered, even if we just put it in a box to give them later.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there you go.
37:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's good.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: All right, Gwen, how about you?
37:12
SPEAKER_01: What is your favorite holiday decoration?
37:15
SPEAKER_02: So I'm glad you're allowing to because I definitely have to.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: Uh, my first is my family and a couple of my good friends helped me create the Willow Tree Nativity.
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: And so that's that's my favorite, but I followed the lead of one of my good friends a few years ago when she leaves her out all year.
37:39
SPEAKER_02: And she said, I just I love it so much.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: It does not have to be a Christmas decoration, and I'm going to enjoy it.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: So I actually have a table that goes into my living room, and so my nativity sits out all year, so I wasn't going to count that one as a Christmas decoration so that I could have two.
37:57
SPEAKER_01: But I love knowing you leave it up all year.
37:59
SPEAKER_02: That's yeah, I love it, and I get so many compliments on it, and and we just really get to enjoy it.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: So, and of course, my grandkids love it because it has you know the sheep and the camel and just it's very playable.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: But my second is uh, well, to snowmen.
38:19
SPEAKER_02: I love all things snowmen, and of course, white lights that is up there too, but yeah, snowmen.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so tell me you have snowman earrings.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: I do, I absolutely do.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: That's great.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: Do you have a few or do you have your trusty pairs?
38:38
SPEAKER_02: No, I just actually have one pair and I need to replace those because somehow they got taken off in my car and I've lost one.
38:49
SPEAKER_02: But even before I had my grandkids, I had snowman earrings because that was always fun to to wear for my patients when you know when I was uh working my my patient population was typically older adults and they always enjoyed snowman, or you're you know, just Christmas decorations and celebrating the holidays.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: So yes, I definitely have snowman earrings, but I need more.
39:15
SPEAKER_01: All right, good to know.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: I was yeah, I was uh thinking about that, that you could wear them well.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: I think that would work.
39:23
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Kristen, all right, how about you?
39:25
SPEAKER_01: What's your favorite holiday decoration?
39:28
SPEAKER_03: My favorite is definitely our Christmas tree, and we go every year to chop it down, and I love the smell of a freshly cut tree.
39:37
SPEAKER_03: And the process of bringing out the ornaments and sharing stories about the places we've been and the kids' interests when they were little is a lot of fun because we buy them each an ornament every year based on our interest, and then we buy ornaments when we go on vacation to places that we go.
39:54
SPEAKER_03: So it's nostalgic to go through as we you know unwrap all those ornaments again.
39:59
SPEAKER_03: And just like you, Gwen, I love getting up before everybody else in the house and sitting near the lighted tree while it's still dark outside for quite time.
40:08
SPEAKER_03: So and then my second favorite is our collection of Christmas books, and we display them on the fireplace, so I guess it's sort of a decoration.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but we started when the kids were little buying a new Christmas picture book every year, and so the collection has just continued to grow over the years, and you know, some of them are funny, some of them are you know more serious, and a lot of them make me cry every year when I read them.
40:36
SPEAKER_03: Yes, but my teenagers still do humor me and they let me read them a few Christmas books at least.
40:44
SPEAKER_03: So that's a fun time.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: Kristen, I love that.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: I had a similar tradition and would wrap them all every year, and that would be kind of a countdown.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: But admittedly, they got older.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: I stopped buying them.
40:58
SPEAKER_01: But have you kept buying them?
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Like maybe I'm kind of re-inspired.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Maybe I should try it again this year and surprise them.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I do.
41:05
SPEAKER_03: I I look for a new one to buy every year.
41:08
SPEAKER_03: And I think, you know, when we someday have grandkids, we're gonna have a nice big collection of Christmas picture books to be.
41:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's great.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: My daughter recently, who's our very high-in-demand babysitter, went in the basement and took out a stack of them to share during her babysitting job.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: I was like, just make sure those come back.
41:30
SPEAKER_01: But I did love to see, like, oh, maybe that's something she'll do when she's got her own home if it was meaningful.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: So these are so great.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: Y'all are just so precious to me.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: I'm so grateful that you were willing to share some of your story, your life, how you do things, and to share in the joy of the celebration.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: And I I just am imagining that for those of us who need a little extra lightheartedness, that this conversation is going to fit the bill.
41:59
SPEAKER_01: I know my cheeks are sore from smiling the whole time and thinking about all things Christmas.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: So thank you, thank you, thank you for coming and being a part of this today.
42:10
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
42:11
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having us.
42:13
SPEAKER_01: It was so funny.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: Well, let's do it again.
42:17
SPEAKER_01: Who knows what's around the corner?
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:20
SPEAKER_01: Of course, I'm a little biased because I relate most to the head types.
42:27
SPEAKER_01: But I had a lot of fun with these gals who I share a lot in common with.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Now, was there anything that stood out to you?
42:34
SPEAKER_01: Did they have a tradition that you enjoy as well?
42:37
SPEAKER_01: Or maybe they shared a hack or system that is going to help you and your holiday celebration.
42:44
SPEAKER_01: Next week is going to be the third installment of this fun Enea Christmas series.
42:50
SPEAKER_01: And you'll get to hear from the remaining Enneagram types that weren't showcased yet.
42:54
SPEAKER_01: And that is the types in the Get Triad, the 8, the 9, the 1.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: And again, just a reminder: this year it's all the wholehearted coaches who I've had the privilege to train, certify, and continue to encourage in their coaching business and whole-hearted attorney.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: Now, if this conversation was fun and encouraging to you, I'd love for you to share it with a friend who's maybe feeling a little frazzled and worn down and needs some lighthearted sharing.
43:25
SPEAKER_01: Just use the share feature to text it to them and let them know what stood out in this episode today.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: I bet they'll feel like it's an early Christmas gift.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: Now I can't wait to share with you the remaining conversations for the Christmas season.
43:40
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43:47
SPEAKER_01: And until next time, friend, remember, we are all broken, we are all blowing it.
43:53
SPEAKER_01: It's the brave one who does something about it.