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2025 UWCL FINAL 🏆 PICKS + PREDICTIONS | Barcelona v Arsenal UEFA Women’s Champions League Final · Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football

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OK, welcome to Into the Channel. Welcome back to Into the Channel
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podcast primarily about women's football.
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I am your host Dean of the Suspension.
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As always, I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant Angle.
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What is up man? I'm feeling fantastic, buddy.
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The UEFA Women's Champions League final is upon us.
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It's time for the final preview. Of the final, final, about the
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final here at the ITCI texted you earlier today about this.
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I want to do a very American thing where we just crank up the
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volume on these cliches. I want to hit some keys to the
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game. I want to hit some match ups to
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watch. I want to talk to some X
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factors. I don't know if there's room for
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rest versus rest or even if it's appropriate, but I don't know 2
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QBs. Do you even have AQ?
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There's a lot of I want to go a lot of different cliche places
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with this final, just really crank up the America.
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So with that said, a lot of different angles we can look at
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this UEFA win Champs League final.
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From where do I get started? If you if you have two Balandor
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winners, do you have one Balandor winner?
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Turns out the answer is actually yes, you do.
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You do have two. In fact, yes.
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Let's get started, my good man. Let's get started with a
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beverage. Oh yeah, I mean, maybe should,
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maybe should be 3 Balandor winners.
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Talk about that one later. We've watched a lot of football
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these past few months. We've watched a great Champions
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League football. I think we should.
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Cheers to it. If I can.
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If I can work this can of beer, there it is.
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Cheers to work in these cans. Exactly.
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Cheers to you, cheers to the football, cheers to the
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Champions League. Just the best tournament in the
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world. I gave a clumsy answer.
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I'm going to go on the Wayback Machine real quick, quick
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diversion. When we were on Leanne
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Sanderson's great podcast, she asked what my favorite league
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was, and I said the UEFA Women's Champions League.
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I could tell she wasn't super psyched about that answer
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because she I know she was looking for a domestic league.
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I finally put my finger on it when I was growing up as a kid
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and I was watching professional baseball because believe it or
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not, in America, people used to care about baseball.
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I used to wonder what it would look like if, like, the Atlanta
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Braves or the New York Yankees played the best team from the
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Dominican Republic or played the best team from the Mexican
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League. Like, how would that look?
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And, you know, people would tell me like, oh, yeah, they'd get
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destroyed by the Yankees. Of course, I'd like, probably
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not like, especially in baseball, Like, I, I just don't
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think that's how it works. And that is what I love about
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this tournament. That is what I love about the
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Champions League and even though we you can get chalk in some of
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these tournaments and you could maybe even argue that you often
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do, we didn't get that in this tournament and I'm just super
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psyched to see it it. It's so, it's so funny how how
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much one kind of shock result can really just apply a whole
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layer of color to the tournament.
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You know, like it's like, you know, we everybody's expecting
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Leon and Barcelona the the, the the chic kind of like
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alternative take is like, OK, well, maybe Chelsea, this is the
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year that they they get over the Barcelona hump and that's what
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everybody was looking for. Nobody was looking for Arsenal
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to be able to come back after losing it all, go to Lyon and
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hang a bunch of goals, enough goals on them to make it to the
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Champions League final. I mean, unbelievable stuff.
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Like, really, I don't think post final there's going to be, I
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asked Leanne about this when she made an appearance on our show.
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I don't think there's a bad story in the bunch either.
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We're going to get an astronomical historical upset,
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you know, of like a 567 to 1 underdog who really stumbled
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through a lot of different parts of this tournament, you know,
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lifting the trophy. Or we're going to get the
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greatest team maybe ever assembled, you know, just, you
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know, cementing, you know, like we're we're we're smack dab mid
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legacy if Barcelona comes out and just kind of handles Arsenal
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and Lisbon here. Yeah, and and you know, we're
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the the avenue to get there is going to be interesting.
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Like in these in these one game finals, you're going to get a
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path. And if it's if it's Barcelona
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wins 5 to nil, then everybody has to stand up and be like,
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this is a team that could be on their way to their second
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consecutive quadruple if they win Copa de la Arena against
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Athletico Madrid following this, following this Champions League
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final. And you they're you're cemented
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as one of the greatest teams of all time.
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And I always say I don't pretend to be a women's football
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historian trying to work my way toward that, but they would
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certainly have to be in that conversation.
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You went to consecutive quadruples, according to my, you
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know, rudimentary Internet searching.
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I don't think that's been done before.
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And if Arsenal wins, it's one of the biggest upsets people have
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seen in a long time. And that's really, and that says
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a lot about Barcelona too, because it's not like Barcelona
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is. It's not like Arsenal is some
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tiny club. Right, right, right yeah, I
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think so many different fun media angles to look at.
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I want to talk a little cues to the game.
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So for you know, for the uninitiated, keys to the game is
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a little thing we like to do out here where we look at, you know,
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a couple factors that could could make the difference for
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each side. So where do you want to start,
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Barcelona or Arsenal? I've got I've got keys for both.
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Let's let's do one and one one for each side.
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If if you want to, if you want to get, roll in there and I'll
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kick it to you with with regard to where you want to get
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started. OK, I do.
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I like the concept that Americans invented keys to the
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game. I can't wait for somebody in
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Europe to be like, yeah, dude, we figured that out a while ago.
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But I don't know. We'll see.
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We probably invented it, right? We invented most things.
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That's how Americans think. I'll start.
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We invented keys. So I'll I'm going to take
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Barcelona first because the Gooners are your squad.
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I think Barcelona should want to start fast in this match.
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I think because of Arsenal's scrappy nature, because of the
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belief that is growing in that squad.
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I think if you go into halftime nil, nil or you go into halftime
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11, everybody in that Arsenal, Arsenal dressing room is going
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to be looking at each other saying we know how to win this
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game. 34 year old 2014 and WSL MVP Kim Little 2018 WSL winner
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Kim Little Mariona with some Champions League experience and
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trophy and medals herself. They're going to look at each
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other and say we can win this and I don't think Barcelona
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should be like terrified of that, but you certainly would
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like to start closing that door early on Arsenal.
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Yeah, that's a great point because you look at that Arsenal
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side, a lot of veteran players, you know, and, and Barcelona's
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got veterans as well. But Barcelona's also littered
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with a lot of young players, whether it's like Baddiello,
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Bina's still, you know, on the on the younger side of 25, Esme
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Brooks. Like, there's there, there is a
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lot of experience there, but it isn't as if Arsenal's going to
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show up and be blinded by the lights and just kind of have no
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clue what's going on. These are big players that are
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playing big games. You can give me a look at Emily
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Fox, you know, with their US from his national team
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experience, Chloe Kelly, like these are players that put in
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massive games. So I'm not not too worried about
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from that standpoint. I love the call about Barcelona
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starting early because I think that's probably one of my keys
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to for, for for the Barcelona from a Barcelona standpoint is
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that can they control the tempo like 1st 1015 minutes?
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Can they control the ball? Can they keep Arsenal chasing
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them? Can they keep Arsenal on the
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back foot? Can they just basically move the
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chess pieces and and basically wear out that Arsenal defense?
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I think that's going to be huge. And then I think with regards to
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the first half, don't overlook like the last 5-10 minutes of
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the first half either, because that's usually where that's
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usually the spot where a team like Barcelona can lean on some
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of their conditioning, can lean on some of their like IQ to like
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really say, OK, we we've chipped away, chipped away, chipped
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away. And now we're at 4230 and we're
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going to make a move here. And we know that you're a little
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tired and we know that we've been kind of running you ragged.
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And now we're going to go from one nil to two nil, which now
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going into halftime feels completely different.
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Or who knows what the score line could be.
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But I think those that that last 5-10 minutes before the half for
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Barcelona could be huge. Yeah, that's a great point.
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And how many times have you seen Barcelona really just take the
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air out of the other team's tires right before the half
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where it's just like, you could you could play him close and
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then Barcelona stretches one more goal in the 43rd or the
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44th, and then everybody has to look at each other.
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And then then it's a sad walk into the dressing room after
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that. You certainly don't want that
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against the best team in the world.
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It it changes your whole perspective too, because, you
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know, I'm sure you've played this game.
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You'd love to play manager as much as as anybody else.
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You know, you're, you're like, you're thinking, all right, one
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nil going into halftime. What are our moves here?
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Maybe we've got Subs come in at 60 or 65 and you know, you start
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to play out the scenarios. But then when it's two nil,
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you're like, OK, start, let's get the rosary out.
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Let's start getting some holy water.
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Let's, I don't know, let's see what we can do to just, you
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know, find some, some powers that be the let's summon some
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football gods kind of help us. A completely different feel with
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those two scenarios from an Arsenal standpoint.
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Keys to the game from from, from the Arsenal side.
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I I tend to think it's in the midfield, but when you think
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about what Arsenal's going to need to have happen, I don't
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know where does your head go? Yeah, I think I, I mentioned Kim
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Little already. I think her time, you know, as a
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player at this part of her career, more of a defensive
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minded midfielder. Spent a lot of time at defensive
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midfielder this season for Arsenal.
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Did some attacking as well, of course.
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But I think it's going to start with her in a defensive posture
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and then McCabe, Catley, Williamson, Fox on the back line
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all the way back to Daphne von Damsalar.
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They're going to have to play their best game of the season
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without a doubt to try to contain this Barcelona attack.
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Yeah, absolutely. I think defensive, they're going
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to have to hold up and I think more even more specifically the
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center, that sense that central channel where you've got Van
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Damslar, Cat Lee and Williamson. I think they're Arsenal's a
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little bit vulnerable down that pathway.
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They're going to have to definitely need to do some team
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defending, make sure everybody's getting back.
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I think Manila has did a great job of that this year.
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Kim Little as well, you know, just back mixing it up.
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They're going to they're going to need everybody to basically
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hold the line there. But I think that that central
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channel is like really a point of danger.
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And then I think in the midfield, you know, you called
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it out. Kim Little, Mariona, freedom on
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them. Those three are going to have to
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be somewhere in the ballpark with Batri, Alexia and Aitana.
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Like if it's if it's a complete shutout, I don't think Arsenal's
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got any shot. If there's some give and take in
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the midfield, I think now we've got ourselves a ball game.
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So I'm going to do some of this off the top of my head, I
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believe Arsenal from the group stage on, I don't think I don't
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have the stats from them making it through those, those
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qualifying stages. But from the group stage on in
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the in the Champions League, Arsenal won the possession
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battle and every single match they played except for match day
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6, the revenge game against Bayern Munich.
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And even then they had 48% of the ball.
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So they barely kind of lost the the possession battle there.
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They're going that midfield is going to have to find a way to
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mitigate getting crushed in the possession battle, but also
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finding a way to win while not having more of the ball.
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Yeah. And I think they're going to
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have to, you know, finding a way to win is going to be tough
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because they're going to have to find alternative ways forward.
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If the attack is straightforward and repetitive, like that's just
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going to be DOA. They're going to have to get a
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little bit creative. But luckily, I think all three
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of those midfielders, little Mariona and Manam, if those are
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the three, all three have business up the pic, you know,
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up the pitch, you know, can can get busy up there, can be
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dangerous up there. And I think we're going to have
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to we're going to need to see that from an Arsenal
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perspective. I want to shift gears though,
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talk about some specific matchups.
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We don't know the lineups yet obviously, but that's usually
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where my the 1st place my head goes when I see when I've got
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the 11 for each side. I'm just like, OK, what are we
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looking at here? What can happen where?
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What should I be watching for early?
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So with that said, are there any matchups that intrigue you?
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For me, a 1 is going to be and that you know, Selma Betiuelo is
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a wonderful player. We've talked about her from from
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the 2023 World Cup. I think because of the absolute
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heater that Claudia Pina is on, I think she will start in left
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back. And if Claudia or pardon me,
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left wing, if Claudia Pina is on the left wing, then she's
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likely, very likely going to be matched up against Emily Fox at
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right back. And that is a heavyweight fight
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that I'm very much looking forward to watch.
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Yep, Emily Fox also coming off that that stark disappointment
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of not being named as you're starting right back on the US
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Swims Ash team show. So I mean, she's going to have
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to gigantic chip on her shoulder on this one.
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So we'll be watching that. I'm going to be watching.
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Oh, I'll start with Arsenal. Arsenal's attack on the right
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side versus Barcelona's left. So let let's say it's Emily Fox,
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the aforementioned Emily Fox. Maybe it's Mariona in the
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midfield and let's say either Caitlin Ford or Chloe Kelly up
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top. I think those three if, if, if,
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if we're looking at a potential weakness or maybe area of slight
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vulnerability. Barcelona's left hand side where
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maybe you have Brooks in the back, Badiola up front and maybe
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Alexia midfield. I think that's a 3V3 where
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Arsenal can make a little progress, work the ball up
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field, kind of find a few chances up here.
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Chloe Kelly for me, I think as a player that is a player that I'm
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looking for, the big game experience obviously come
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through in huge spots has come through in this tournament, you
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know, as a due arrival in North London.
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So I think that that Arsenal right side versus Barcelona left
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side, I think that that that could be a match up to watch for
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me. Yeah, No, I, I think that's,
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that's right on. And if you're if your arsenal,
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you are going to hope that you can take something mostly away
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from Barcelona. And like, you're not going to
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like you're not going to take away Eitanabomati, you're not
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going to take away Alexia Pouteus or Carolina Graham
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Hansen. So you got to find something and
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be like, OK, we're going to at least limit this.
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And so if you can pin back brutes and you know, pardon me,
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totally spacing. If you, if you can pin back
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brutes and peanut, then you have like a decent chance of saying,
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OK, well, or if we can worry about that less and then maybe
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we can try to like disrupt people, block some shots from
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some of the other superlative talent on the field.
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I think it's a, it's a worthwhile strategy to at least
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try. And if it ends up you, you give
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up two goals to Evapayor in the 1st 15 minutes and you say, OK,
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that strategy didn't work, let's go try something else.
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If it's two and 15, I mean, yeah, we we might be just doing
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doing some other stuff, getting ready for possibly next season
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at that point. If I'm Barcelona, I think, you
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know, we talked about that central channel as being an area
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of opportunity. Daphne von Domslar, another
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player we've we have to make sure that the health situation
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is in check and there's a player that didn't starting lineup.
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If von Domslar is not there makes it a lot trickier.
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No shade at Manila Zinsburger, but I think this probably has to
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be a von Damsler game for Arsenal to have any kind of shot
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here. And you know, again, those
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center backs, Leo Williams and Steph Gatley, can they get into
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those lanes? Can they just kind of be
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disruptive? You know, Barcelona loves to
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kind of like knock, you know, short passes in the in that
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danger area. Can Barcelona, I mean, I'm
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sorry, can Arsenal just be again, like in spaces where
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Barcelona now has to go the long way to kind of switch the field
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or reset or do things? Because if Arsenal's kind of
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getting beat back door and side door, that's pretty much it.
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We'll we'll know, you know, until Leanne's point.
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Leanne Sanderson came on the show, said, hey, I'll, I'll let
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you guys know in 10 minutes what what I'm thinking.
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I think in 10 minutes we'll know if that Arsenal defense is going
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to be up for it. I love that I we will be looking
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at WhatsApp furiously to see if the legend lets us know what's
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going to happen for the rest of the match based on those 10
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minutes. But yeah, you're totally right.
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I mean, it's going to it's going to be a massive test for
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Williamson and Kelly. I think Evapai or have really
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has something to show in this match that we'll talk about her
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a little later. But yeah, if if Arsenal's going
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to have a chance, they're going to have to slow down that
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Barcelona attack. That goes without saying.
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But you know it's going to be up to them to also then try to get
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some counters going and not fall into that trap that you and I
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have talked about so many times where it's you can win the ball
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from Barcelona, but then they have your next two passes
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covered and then you can't even get the ball out of your
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defensive third. They have to find a way to get
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the ball to those midfielders you referenced earlier into some
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kind of space to just give themselves some relief at
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points. Yeah, and I think Arsenal has to
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be able to move the ball up field, you know, as simple as
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that sounds, you know, because like Barcelona, what what they
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do is when they take away those options, you're left with a pass
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back to the keeper or back. You just all they let you do is
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go backwards. You know, it's just like, oh,
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you want to keep going backwards, you know, we'll let
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you keep doing that for sure. But Arsenal going to have to
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find some lanes. They're going to have to get a
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little creative. The the one benefit though, you
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know, credit to the intent. So you just talked to us about
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this as well. Barcelona's not going to have a
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lot of familiarity with Arsenal, this defense, this attack, Renee
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Slayer's like there's there's a lot that's going to be new to
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this Barcelona side. Obviously they play their game.
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There's no getting them out of their game.
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So it may, it may matter, it may not matter, but that's something
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also I think, worth mentioning. Yeah, and Aitana Bohmati
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mentioned it, I believe it was to ESPN.
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And the headline, of course, was Bohmati surprised Arsenal's in
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the final. That was one part of her quote.
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Dare she? Yeah, of course.
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What has she done? Seriously, what has she done?
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Yeah, exactly. How dare you be surprised that a
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team that hasn't made the final for 17 years makes the final.
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So, you know, I that was the headline, but she was very
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respectful in it. Just saying like, hey, going to
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Leone and getting that victory is incredibly impressive.
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There's a reason people didn't expect that.
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And it's respect to to Leone. But what she also said in that
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interview was she mentioned that very thing that you're talking
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about is that they haven't played Arsenal much at all in
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the past several years and definitely not in a big spot
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like this. So it's something that she's
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looking out for. And you know, even with
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Arsenal's pedigree to, you know, as a historically great women's
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club hasn't won the WSL in what, 6 years at this point?
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Last team to win it before Chelsea went on this incredible
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run. You, you have to think if
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you're, if you're Barcelona, we have more big game experience
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than this Arsenal squad together.
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Even if there might be some folly in that.
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I still think if you're, if you're Barcelona, you know,
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there can't be any shortage of belief.
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Yeah, and I think they've got got the big game players and you
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know, I want to talk a little bit about X factors too, weirdly
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enough. I think, you know, and there's a
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lot of, you know, debate on how to define X Factor specifically,
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but I always think about it as like who's who's being under
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reported, You know, who might be under, who might be being under
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prepared for now, under prepared for.
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You would never include CGH in that mix.
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But I think a player like CGH coming off like a slight
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Ballindor snub last year, a little bit less of an impactful
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season this year, although still a great year for CGH.
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That might be a player where we might see an explosion because
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that's something that's not being discussed to the same
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degree as they were last year. And if we're going with for for
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more of like a player under the radar, I think a player like
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Mapi Lyon could potentially have a lot to do, could be involved
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in a lot of stuff. You know, if, if Arsenal does
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decide, hey, we need to be super opportunistic.
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You know, Leanne Sanderson came on her show also and talked
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about, hey, that Barcelona defense, maybe they haven't been
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tested to, you know, to to the degree of some, some, some other
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defenses, maybe they could be gettable in spots.
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I, I, I do think that that's true.
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And then that's something that we'll, we'll kind of have to
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watch. But I don't know that we'll,
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we'll, the Arsenal attack like they're going to have to grab
23:26
moments here and there. They're not going to be able to
23:28
compete 90 minutes top to bottom.
23:31
So I think a player like Moppy you could think about, but it is
23:34
too you could even think about got that going.
23:37
I think those players will be called into action and it almost
23:40
makes it a little trickier if the chances are fewer and, and,
23:46
and further between, you know, if you got to really get up for
23:50
something and then it's another 2025 minutes before there's
23:53
another screamer coming through the box that that could be an
23:57
opportunity, you know, So I I would keep an eye on those
24:00
Barcelona center backs as well with special attention on Mappy
24:03
because the other part too is on the other side.
24:06
She could be devastating from an offensive standpoint.
24:09
Yeah, it's a great point. And I got to say, I mean, as an
24:13
Arsenal supporter, we're talking about X factors here.
24:15
You just, you throw out three Barcelona players you caught.
24:19
You caught me off guard here. Now I got to prepare for you as
24:22
an X Factor. Apparently so, which you always
24:25
are my good men, even though I actually I don't think you
24:29
qualify as an X Factor though you're a superstar.
24:31
So I mean, what are we talking about here?
24:32
So let me let me give the Arsenal side here.
24:35
I'm past my prime though, you know, maybe coming back in the
24:37
day. So right, the fact that I can
24:39
still submit it at this age maybe qualify as the surprise.
24:44
That's fair, that's understandable.
24:46
What if, what if CGH is running down that right hand side and
24:50
Katie McCabe is just like, OK, hard foul time.
24:54
And then I'm going to get in your head and I'm going to rough
24:56
you up and I'm going to get you off of your game.
24:59
And then maybe, you know, Mariona and Alexia start to get
25:02
frustrated like, hey, you know, you know, yelling at the ref
25:05
like take care of this. Don't let her hit CGH like this.
25:09
What if McCabe has a has a say in those things and on that same
25:12
typically left side. I know Chloe Kelly can bounce in
25:15
between. I it's hard to throw Chloe Kelly
25:19
in the under like represented, you know, kind of silo, but I
25:26
think she could. I think she is right because
25:28
she's she's not she's not she's not Russo Alessia Russo, she's
25:34
she's not Mariona Caldente. I know you know, Kelly has been
25:38
good in her time there. She could be an X Factor type of
25:41
player. Even if she's streaking down
25:43
that left hand side in in a in a counter attack in a pure counter
25:48
attack. They get the ball off of
25:50
Barcelona for just a few seconds and then she's playing the ball
25:53
inside and freedom on them where Mariona Caldente standing there
25:57
in the middle to get a surprise goal.
26:00
I I think Kelly is 1 to watch as a potential X Factor.
26:04
Yeah, I love it. Kelly was huge.
26:07
I mean she played great, you know, again joining Arsenal mid
26:11
mid season, but came up huge against Manchester United in a
26:14
big game. You know, it gets the the goal
26:16
early, very opportunistically off that PTJ mistake and then
26:21
gets a big assist to Kim Little for the 4th 1.
26:24
So huge, huge play. Arsenal, Arsenal, they need big
26:29
time performances from a lot of players.
26:30
I think Chloe Kelly is very, very near the top of that list
26:33
for X factors. I think one more that I would
26:36
consider from an Arsenal standpoint, I mean Von Domsar is
26:40
going to be in there. You know, you know, like in
26:43
terms of a player that's got to be healthy and right.
26:45
And we'll we'll have a lot of opportunity to get hands on the
26:50
ball for sure. And then one little bit of a
26:55
curveball. So, and I'm excited to get your
26:57
take on this. I went back and looked.
27:01
Barcelona obviously lost three matches this season, WSL in the
27:05
Champions League, Levante, Real Madrid and Manchester City.
27:10
The only match that they lost with Onabati on the pitch was
27:14
that batch to Manchester City super, super early.
27:18
They didn't. They didn't lose a single match
27:19
with all four of their typical like 1A backliners in the
27:24
starting line at Brooks Beretta is Mapi Leon and Battier.
27:29
So I'd keep an eye on Battier and I think this is a weird
27:34
stealth thing to look for. But if I'm Renee Slate Battier
27:39
is such a game wrecker that I I don't know that I wouldn't be
27:45
against maybe putting Stina Blaxtenius in the match up top
27:50
and just parking her in that area and just sort of being the
27:54
the defensive lineman that eats up offensive lineman.
27:58
Just clog the paint, you know, clog the the the a gap and the B
28:02
gap and the C. You know, just clog the gaps and
28:05
and and occupy a couple of those players, whether, you know, it's
28:08
maybe it's Pateris and and Bhatia.
28:11
But I think a player like that, because Blacksatias loves to get
28:14
into great spots, you know, with the ball and she's super crafty
28:18
from that standpoint. Finishing is another issue, but
28:21
would love to just have a player that's just her only job is to
28:25
just keep Batier, you know, a little bit preoccupied, a little
28:29
bit distracted. I love it.
28:32
No, I think it's, I think it's a great, I think it's a great
28:35
shout. I'm trying to look it up
28:36
quickly. So yeah, Black Stenius is 5 foot
28:39
9 great size. You, you know, you could try to
28:43
use that to push around Potetas and and Mapi Lyon, even Onabati
28:50
to try to try to distract you like you're saying, which I
28:55
mean, it's funny because I I know you have had your doubts in
28:59
the past about a a Russo Blaxtenius combo.
29:03
Like, you know, if, if you, if you, if you try to like play
29:06
Russo, like, you know, more of like a kind of #10 ish and black
29:11
stadia says a nine. But that's why we talk tactics
29:14
is because you know, sometimes maybe that's the look you want.
29:17
So I I think that's, that's really interesting coming from
29:20
you. I I did not expect it at all.
29:24
Yeah. I mean, I don't know, we'll see.
29:25
I mean, there's there's so many different ways to to go.
29:27
There's no and there's also against Barcelona.
29:30
It's one of those things where I'm going to twist the part of
29:33
speech a little bit. There's no right answer, right.
29:36
You could you could try a lot of different things and get all of
29:38
them wrong and and be at no fault whatsoever.
29:44
All right, I think let's see where we're at.
29:46
Yeah, we're at about the half hour mark.
29:48
We're we're crushing it from a time standpoint.
29:50
So, so let's not sweat it. Let's pick some picks.
29:53
I think we talked X factors, we talked matchups, we talked some
29:57
keys, we even talked some betting lines to rewind it back
30:00
to, you know, the origin story. I'm I want to kick it to you.
30:06
I I want to hear you. You very famously.
30:08
I was thinking about this today. The the legend of seal 2 finally
30:13
came on the show last year, got you all pumped up about Leo and
30:17
pre final. When it came time to make
30:21
predictions, you went you went against everything you had ever
30:25
stood for to that point. And then I think, you know, got
30:29
swept up in all the the Leon fever.
30:32
So with that said, I hate to, I hate to react old shit, but I do
30:38
want to kick it to you, give you a chance to, to get, I don't
30:41
know, let's see, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe catch me by
30:44
surprise here, but I want to hear your pick for the 2025 UEFA
30:48
Women's chancing final. So we'll see if I I think I may
30:53
have broke a cardinal podcasting rule, but I I might as well
30:57
promote it because if you're this far and you haven't watched
31:00
already, I guess we can't spoil it.
31:02
I revealed my pick because I was a guest on the great shades of
31:06
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Anything you could possibly do to support those guys, but best
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on also. And so I did give my pick there.
31:34
And while I could give two separate picks to try to like
31:38
see if I could get one right. I will maintain some take
31:42
integrity here. I think it is Barcelona 3,
31:46
Arsenal one. I think you can't, I think you
31:50
cannot keep Mariona out of the net.
31:52
I think she will score in this match because that's who she is.
31:56
But I think Barcelona I'll, I'll add a little sauce on the take.
32:00
I didn't get get into all this on shades of blue, but I think
32:05
Barcelona will be up two nil and Mariona will pull one back
32:10
before Barcelona before Barcelona scores the dagger.
32:15
I could see that three one. I mean, that's that's a score
32:19
line that feels very, very reasonable, very realistic.
32:24
That would definitely ran through my head for sure.
32:27
Hard to look at Barcelona, the pedigree defending champions
32:32
that just the talent, like the talent of this side, the talent
32:36
on the bench, you know, like what they're able to.
32:40
It's ridiculous. And then they play like fucking
32:42
geniuses. Yeah, you know you.
32:45
Like they just do everything right.
32:49
You know, you were talking about like not wanting to go at Irene
32:51
Peretis. And it's like, I wouldn't want
32:54
to go at Irene. No, like 6, three, 230 something
32:58
pounds. And I, I mean, I, I don't feel
33:00
like I stand a chance at any kind of, I don't even, not even
33:03
just football, just any kind of physical take on, you know, I, I
33:06
feel like I'm in a supreme disadvantage going against
33:10
Peretis, But you know, obviously they're loaded.
33:14
I, I went back and forth quite a bit thinking about, all right,
33:17
what kind of score line do I envision?
33:19
And I got to tell you, buddy, you know?
33:23
Yes. This When I talk about the stars
33:27
aligning right down to the point of our guy, Chris Sharples on
33:31
the call coming on with us, You think about, I mean, these
33:37
legends of the game in the some of them in the twilight of their
33:40
career, think about Kim little Mariana Caldente.
33:43
You know, think about the the the story, the storybook notion
33:47
of Mariana telling your teammates.
33:49
I'm going to see you in the final.
33:51
And now here we are against. I mean, I months ago, I, I, I, I
33:56
said this arsenal team stunk, granted that they were under
33:59
Jonas Zadevall. So I I feel a little bit
34:01
vindicated, but everything that they've gone through to get here
34:07
and I just feel like we're on the cusp of a historic sports
34:13
upset. So give me let's go.
34:16
Arsenal 1, Barcelona nil, 85th minute.
34:22
Chloe Kelly goal from Mariona Caldente and we just basically
34:28
get Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson too.
34:32
That's just, that's just absolutely wonderful.
34:35
And I was going to try to make the joke earlier, like we were
34:38
talking about Chloe Kelly. I was going to try to make some
34:42
kind of joke of, well, what does Chloe Kelly know about scoring
34:45
big historic goals? It turns out quite a bit.
34:49
Won the damn EUR for the Lionesses.
34:53
I mean that she is, she's already because of that goal.
34:58
She's an all timer. If she pull if, if she were to
35:02
pull that off, then we're talking statue territory at that
35:06
point. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's a a
35:10
London, an English legend for sure.
35:13
That's basically, you know, you know, the the great Sean Carter
35:19
once said he's a legend in two games like Pee Wee Kirkland.
35:22
I think Chloe Kelly would be a legend and you know, obviously
35:25
international and both and club football with with just peak
35:29
peak apex performances. So yeah, give me one nil
35:32
Arsenal. I think it's I I I really do
35:35
think it's going to happen. I think we're going to get the
35:37
upset of upsets. Nobody.
35:40
You know, I think we got wild results in the semi final.
35:45
You know, when you think about Arsenal coming back and and just
35:49
just beating Lyon, like just that that didn't of itself
35:53
without the comeback was was truly a story.
35:56
And then on the other side, Barcelona was just complete
35:58
mashing of Chelsea, who I think most of us thought this is a
36:03
real contender and I think like. It's a lot of, of course.
36:06
Revisionists say, oh, they got injuries and but I mean, Leanne
36:09
said he's like, what do you if you're Chelsea, how do you say
36:12
we need more players or like we don't have the players like you
36:14
got the players, like you got all the best players.
36:16
You paid, you know, a lot of money for for a ton of great
36:18
players. So I think the semi final
36:22
provided us with a lot of surprises and I think come
36:26
Saturday we might just get one more massive surprise.
36:30
I'm very, very excited. God, I love that.
36:33
I love that so much. And you know what?
36:35
I like that you pick that, that Chloe Kelly will score it in the
36:39
85th minute, doesn't even have to wait till the 111th minute
36:43
like she did in the euro. She's going to take care of
36:45
business early, you know, get her homework done on time,
36:48
handed in neatly to the teacher. I absolutely love it.
36:52
I'd expect nothing less from you if it, I mean, if it happens the
36:56
the post match show that we're going to do, we might as well.
37:00
I mean that that show will. Be I might get a statue.
37:04
Buddy, yeah, I'm saying that show will be insane.
37:11
I can't wait. I you know, and, and as you
37:15
know, obviously like I would be, I fully recognize that anything
37:18
had happened. I want to get, I want to get as
37:21
deep into this match as I can alive.
37:24
And I mentioned this too before the, the, the, the Leon tie
37:28
where I'm just like I, I want to be stay alive as as long as
37:30
possible. And the longer it went, the more
37:34
live Arsenal looked. So I don't know.
37:38
I, I think it's good. I think it's going to be a ton
37:39
of fun on Saturday either way. And obviously Arsenal's way,
37:43
way, way up against it made my, I made my gay prediction, made
37:47
my score prediction, my player of the match prediction.
37:50
Now I, I, I'm going to go with, you know, just to match the, you
37:57
know, the, the narrative that I'm putting together here.
37:59
You know, obviously Chloe Kelly, I think would, is going to cash
38:02
in late, you know, not as late as as you mentioned in the EUR.
38:06
And I think actually, if, if this does does go to added extra
38:09
time, like Leanne mentioned, it could, you know, it could
38:11
happen. I that's a, that would be real
38:13
bad for Arsenal. You know, I don't want to see
38:15
those players. You're limping through the
38:17
100th, 100 and 1000 and 20th minute.
38:19
Don't worry, don't worry, Sydney, just Sydney shirt and
38:23
liable will come on the field if if things get late.
38:26
Yeah, you'll be fine. Maybe Vicki Lopez will show up.
38:28
I mean you'll you'll be just fine.
38:30
Easy peasy. That's that's late work for us.
38:34
Yeah. And then whoever, whoever
38:35
didn't, whoever didn't start from Patio Lumpina, we can
38:38
expect that that person to join the party.
38:41
Rolfo Brooks, that's another. Oh, my God, it's good.
38:45
I don't, I don't, I don't want to even think about that part.
38:47
I just want to stay in the part where where we've we've we're
38:49
lifting the trophy against all odds.
38:53
But yeah, I think my player of the match, I'm going to say it.
38:57
It would have to be Daphne von Domslar to hold this Barcelona
39:01
team to zero. I would expect some massive
39:06
saves. I'm going to go out.
39:07
Another clean sheet for von Damsalar, including one penalty
39:13
kick save. I think she gets Alexia in the
39:15
47th minute, stares her down, you know, just shifts the entire
39:20
momentum. Barcelona at this point has
39:22
earned a penalty kick right after coming out at the start of
39:25
the second-half. Von Damsar stones her on her way
39:29
to player of the match and then on her way to to obviously
39:32
lifting the trophy and, you know, bringing the cup, you
39:36
know, back to north London and you know, champions of, of
39:38
Europe, you already know what time it is.
39:41
I mean, this would I, I had a run, I can't remember what.
39:46
I think it was one of the the final match weeks of the group
39:50
stage, or maybe it might have been the quarterfinals.
39:53
I think it was the quarterfinals where I had like a pretty sick
39:56
run where I got like three of the four score predictions
40:01
correct and I was like pretty close on the 4th.
40:06
This, this would destroy that. This would make that that
40:10
wouldn't even be a footnote in ITC history if you get these
40:14
right. I mean, these are, these are
40:16
fantastic picks, buddy. I'm honored to, I'm honored to
40:19
witness them ahead of the match. Well, that's the only time
40:24
they'll be valid, so I appreciate you going along for
40:27
the ride for me. You got a, You have a player of
40:29
the match prediction. Eva Payor has appeared in four
40:35
UEFA Women's Champions League finals for Wolfsburg.
40:39
She lost 3 to Lyon and one to her current employer, Barcelona
40:44
Football Club or pardon me, Football Club Barcelona, FC
40:47
Barcelona. I think she's going to score a
40:50
brace because I think Kim Little, Leia Williamson, Emily
40:55
Fox and company are going to be very busy trying to trying to
41:00
contain Claudia Pina, CGH Poutaeus and Bone Mati.
41:04
I think Payor gets the monkey off her back, Steve Young style
41:09
and gets a couple of goals and finally gets to lift that trophy
41:14
after just in I. I feel like we didn't talk about
41:17
her that much, but just a dominant season for Barcelona.
41:22
Yeah, just, I mean, cashed in week after week.
41:25
That would be great to see Payor be able to celebrate that kind
41:29
of victory. And just so wild that a team
41:32
could have that much talent that, you know, you you could
41:35
you could construct A narrative where there's so much offensive
41:38
firepower being active in the final third that Payor just kind
41:42
of goes unnoticed and is able to slide, you know, just slide
41:45
through and, you know, just be either poach or, you know, just
41:49
slip, slip behind the defense and and take advantage of
41:53
basically everybody being distracted by all the, you know,
41:56
shiny things in in Barcelona's offense.
42:00
So again, tall task, but very I don't know.
42:05
I'm very pumped. You got me pumped up and I'm I'm
42:08
excited to hear where you go from here.
42:12
Yeah, I, I just want to say on on Pyor, I mean, 25 goals, 10
42:16
assists in Liga F in the champ in the Champions League, seven
42:21
goals won assist. I mean, she's just been an
42:23
absolute force. And, you know, I I had to think
42:29
about those, those Champions League final appearances.
42:35
And when I saw that three of the losses were to Leone and then,
42:39
well, I think it was 2023. Yeah.
42:41
Yeah, of course, 2023 Wolfsburg loses to Barcelona.
42:46
It's just got to be something for her.
42:48
Where you know, you think about like, I know people give Kevin
42:52
Durant like a lot of shit, but like you lose and lose and lose
42:56
and you're just like, I'm good enough to be on the best team.
43:00
I'm good enough to be one of the best players on the best team.
43:03
Just get me on there so I can do my thing and lift that trophy
43:07
that I just am so desperately trying to lift.
43:11
I I think she gets it done. But in the alternate universe
43:15
where your gooners lift it, I mean I I'd be happy to live
43:18
there as well. Yeah, no doubt.
43:20
And I think, you know, it's no, it's no easy feat to kind of
43:26
join a team like that and step into that role because, like,
43:32
what do we hear? I mean, we got a ton of
43:33
Barcelona fans, part of our community, you know that.
43:38
And it's not just lip service talking about how that
43:42
organization cultivates talent, you know, builds a community,
43:47
you know, sort of like is more than a club, right?
43:50
You know, so imagine that is the club globally, that is the gold
43:57
standard they hit. They do things their way.
44:00
They home grow talent. Like, you know, there's so much,
44:03
there's so many Spanish excellent players there.
44:07
And you're going to come in from Wolfsburg, you know, from Poland
44:11
and step into step on to the Barcelona, step into Barcelona's
44:15
attack, you know, and be the end point for all those genius
44:19
passes. And then, you know, when it
44:21
comes time, you cash in 25 wheels, 10 assists and then do
44:25
what you do in the Champions League, score against Chelsea in
44:27
the semi final. I mean, this is a a player that,
44:31
you know, weirdly enough, I think has gone underreported as
44:36
well. Yeah, I think that's, I think
44:39
that's totally fair. And like obviously the comp to a
44:42
Robert Levandowski, you know, they're both Polish, they're
44:45
both number nines. Like it feels like it makes
44:47
sense. They both moved to Barcelona.
44:50
You know, Levandowski won a lot in his in his club career
44:55
previously. And you know, I think, I think
44:57
Payor has at least, I want to say 6 domestic league trophies
45:02
with Wolfsburg you got. But you know, she's just dying
45:06
to get this crown jewel of a trophy and she's right on the
45:11
precipice of it. It's going to be, it's going to
45:13
be cinema, as I believe the kids like to say on social media.
45:18
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included as part of memberships. So yeah, I don't know.
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What do you think about that? Sorry to miss.
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I mean, you know what? I bring it to you.
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Well, I'm being recorded right now, so I can't really say no,
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but I wouldn't say no. I mean, this is a great idea and
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just, you know, to let people behind the curtain.
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I know I've said this before. Dino is very obviously, I
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probably don't need to state this for the audience.
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Dino is very obviously the brains behind this operation.
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So yeah, that sounds good to me. I would love to chop it up with
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with everybody who supports the show.
47:38
We obviously appreciate you guys so much for rocking with us.
47:40
We're like Dino and I talk all the time.
47:42
Like it's just, it's just wild to see like the smart and kind
47:48
people who talk about football with us on the Internet.
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So any opportunity we have to kick it with you guys, I'm more
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than happy to. Hell yeah.
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Yeah, I think it's it's going to be a lot of fun.
47:59
We'll just have to figure out when we pin that down on the
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calendar. Speaking of calendar, episode
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calendar. So obviously you just rocked
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with us on the Pixar prediction Show Saturday night.
48:10
We'll be back to recap the final next week.
48:13
We've been mentioned a couple times. 2025 WCL play by play
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announcer Forge, his own Mr. Chris Sharples, goodness me
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joining us for the second straight year.
48:22
Written in the stars. You don't even know what time it
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is. I don't know.
48:25
Just a fun, fun week. 2 weeks, 3 weeks of shows coming down the
48:31
Pike. After that, we'll have some USW
48:33
and T updates. They're getting busy in June.
48:36
I think they've got five matches in 32 or 33 days that we'll be
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talking a good bit about. And then NWSL hits the stretch
48:44
run as well. 10 weeks down, what, 16 to go, 17 to go,
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depending on where where some teams are at.
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But yeah, the the footballs, it doesn't end when the Champions
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League wraps it. It's definitely a pinnacle for
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us, but the the calendar pretty much never stops.
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I mean, it's why it's the greatest sport in the world.
49:03
I mean, you know, I do. I do wonder what football in the
49:07
USA would look like on the European calendar.
49:10
But then I also think about how would Chicago Stars FC play in
49:17
December would not be enjoyable. I mean, you know, it's a little
49:22
more mild up here, but how much would I enjoy, you know, riding
49:27
my bike down to Luhmanfield in December in Seattle?
49:31
I probably wouldn't enjoy that so much.
49:33
So maybe I should just be grateful for the summer season.
49:35
And you already know, top Syrian, you know, the greatest
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league in the world with the greatest club in the world.
49:40
SK Brown plays in the summer, too.
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So I'm just grateful the calendar doesn't stop after the
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Champions League, even though we will be a little sad after the
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final. You always kind of get that like
49:51
post final clarity where it's just like, OK, no more Champions
49:56
League for a while, but Braun will sustain us, NWSL will
50:00
sustain us. You know, Donald Svenskin will
50:05
sustain us. And then we'll get back and then
50:08
Braun's in the Champions League next year.
50:09
So like, you know, what are we talking about here?
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This later this year, not next, next Champions League season.
50:16
So everything's coming up roses for your boys.
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I was when I was watching, were you watching Arsenal United?
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I think, I think it was Flow ball football flow on the on the
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on the call. I think I got that right.
50:29
Flow was talking about she was like, yeah, you know, like big
50:31
difference between second and third here qualifying.
50:34
You know, you, you might be able to shoot straight ahead into the
50:37
November qualifying or you, you might get, you know, be able to
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have to play in October qualifying.
50:42
And I think this year it might have been like late September
50:43
too. And then when you look at the
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can, I'm like, it's not that far away.
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Three 3-4 months now. I'll be right back to it.
50:49
But yeah, like as you mentioned, in the meantime, football God's
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blessed us. We get NWSL, lot of
50:54
international stuff to kind of keep us satiated.
50:58
All right, man, great show. Well, yeah, we said 30.
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We're at 51. That's pretty much par for the
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course. Anything else we want to hit
51:04
before we get out of here? I think we've done it, my good
51:07
man. What what a UEFA Women's
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Champions League season thus far and we got the biggest match of
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them all coming up. I'll be psyched to watch it and
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then psyched to chat with you about it.
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Absolutely, man. Yeah, great season.
51:18
It almost feels like we did two shows tonight.
51:20
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51:42
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51:46
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51:48
I appreciate you, bro. We're here.
51:50
We're in the final. We made our predictions.
51:53
One of us is going to be right. And then, yeah, I mean, we, it
51:58
just keeps going. That's the best part.
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Like we, we, we close the chapter and, and a new awesome
52:04
chapter just kicks off in earnest right from there.
52:07
And I appreciate you bro. Likewise, buddy, and you know,
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let us know in the comments. Obviously, you know I got 3-1
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Barcelona Dino has one nil Arsenal.
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Let us know your picks in the comments yeah, all of you guys
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