Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney Unpacks Legal Implications of Dr. Fauci's Silence
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here.
- 0:00Speaker 2: He is my friend of forty eight years, the amazing
- 0:03Speaker 2: defense attorney Joseph Tacopina.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Attack of morning, buddy.
- 0:07Speaker 3: How are you talk about angry? Don't ever introduce me
- 0:10Speaker 3: with Lionel Richie again? Please?
- 0:12Speaker 1: What do you nut? That's that Lionel Richie. That's the Commodoores.
- 0:16Speaker 3: That's his stupid voice. Yeah, I know it's the Commodore's.
- 0:18Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, skinnered black crows, the
- 0:21Speaker 3: dead whiskey myers. Even you want to get modern, but
- 0:24Speaker 3: not the Commodore is not those. I'm sorry, that's a
- 0:29Speaker 3: bad mood and I'm gonna bad moves that waited thirty
- 0:30Speaker 3: five minutes of this call to race is common. I'm gonna.
- 0:33Speaker 3: I'm getting to watch now for your.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Birth No, no, well we run. No, here's the thing
- 0:36Speaker 2: I told, the same as the bill of whiley. He
- 0:38Speaker 2: finally got it. This is all planned because my numbers
- 0:41Speaker 2: are great to the eight o'clock hour. It's a four
- 0:44Speaker 2: hour show, so why want my nine o'clock hour to
- 0:46Speaker 2: have numbers like the first three hours?
- 0:48Speaker 1: So O'Reilly?
- 0:50Speaker 2: Now he's on in the nine o'clock hour on Thursdays
- 0:53Speaker 2: many times, tackle poena is on in the nine o'clock
- 0:56Speaker 2: hour on Friday.
- 0:57Speaker 1: So this is all planned because you get.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Good rating low to your five listeners at nine o'co.
- 1:02Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, do you know? No, it's
- 1:04Speaker 2: a true story. We actually win you ready for this?
- 1:07Speaker 2: Forget about the twelve plus demo. We win twenty four
- 1:12Speaker 2: to fifty six for news talk radio nine to ten o'clock.
- 1:15Speaker 3: How about that you kill every radio comfort. I'm not
- 1:18Speaker 3: talking about that. I'm talking about all right, good morning.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Ha ha a good morning. No, we'll be such a
- 1:25Speaker 2: big deal on Fridays that we're looking for you to
- 1:27Speaker 2: help us when Out Friday is shown and you get
- 1:30Speaker 2: very good ratings when you're on. You know, people don't
- 1:32Speaker 2: realize this. Every single segment we get ratings.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Did you know that? No, it is every single segment.
- 1:38Speaker 2: So I know that Joe Takopina on a Friday does
- 1:43Speaker 2: exceptionally well, and I know people who don't do as
- 1:46Speaker 2: well well.
- 1:47Speaker 3: I also know that I've been approached by so many
- 1:50Speaker 3: people strangers adopted the other day, who just come up
- 1:53Speaker 3: with me and say I love you on said show.
- 1:55Speaker 3: So that means one that they listen to your show regularly.
- 1:58Speaker 3: I mean so many people do. As a matter of fact,
- 2:00Speaker 3: on last Thursday instead of Friday, if you were cool
- 2:02Speaker 3: because you was off Friday. That's right, my eye doctor.
- 2:05Speaker 3: When I went in there, popped out of the room
- 2:07Speaker 3: and said, I got nervous. I thought I was. I
- 2:10Speaker 3: was going to work, you know on Friday when I'm
- 2:13Speaker 3: off on Fridays. Because I was driving, I heard you
- 2:14Speaker 3: on the radio and I was like, that's funny. So
- 2:17Speaker 3: these people listen religiously and it's pretty amazing.
- 2:19Speaker 2: I know it's so real to me. Joseph too, but
- 2:21Speaker 2: believe me, believe me, it's so real.
- 2:23Speaker 1: So we'll go back to this. I think we covered
- 2:25Speaker 1: it last week too.
- 2:26Speaker 2: But you know, this girl was just on Miller and
- 2:28Speaker 2: her father was killed firefighter on nine to eleven, and
- 2:31Speaker 2: she's okay with ma'm donnie being their wife.
- 2:34Speaker 1: She said Democrats. She even admitted to me if she.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Lived in the boroughs, which she does, and she would
- 2:38Speaker 2: vote for mom Donnie. I knew right away when I
- 2:40Speaker 2: heard her on the news two days ago that this
- 2:42Speaker 2: girl is not a Republican, She's not something, not a
- 2:46Speaker 2: Trump and all those things. And I was proven right
- 2:49Speaker 2: during that conversation. The lovely girl and she went through
- 2:52Speaker 2: a very difficult time. That's no kid should go through
- 2:54Speaker 2: at the age of six years old. But really angered
- 2:57Speaker 2: a lot of my listening audience the fact that she
- 3:00Speaker 2: is okay with this guy being there and her father
- 3:03Speaker 2: is dead.
- 3:03Speaker 1: What are your thoughts?
- 3:05Speaker 3: Well, it's she's can fall to her own opinion, right,
- 3:07Speaker 3: She's entitled to green how she wants to grieve or
- 3:10Speaker 3: or you know, take a position on this as she
- 3:14Speaker 3: wants to. I mean, my thoughts, as you know, are
- 3:17Speaker 3: in no uncertain terms. This piece of garbage should not
- 3:20Speaker 3: be at the nine to eleven memorial. It should not
- 3:23Speaker 3: be I mean, he again, let's go back to Hassan Piker.
- 3:27Speaker 3: He sat there when his good buddy said nine eleven
- 3:30Speaker 3: is something that America deserves, or to use this quote,
- 3:32Speaker 3: America deserve. Reading the quote America deserved nine eleven, Dami
- 3:36Speaker 3: sat there. He didn't push back it in insruptcy and
- 3:38Speaker 3: condemned the statement. He let it pass. And that silence
- 3:41Speaker 3: on a subject is morally reprehensible, as the murder of
- 3:44Speaker 3: three thousand plus innocent Americans is disqualifying in my view,
- 3:48Speaker 3: for you to be there with that stupid smug smile
- 3:52Speaker 3: when you know, underneath it all, he's sitting there going
- 3:54Speaker 3: this was a great day for me, you know. I
- 3:56Speaker 3: mean that's how I feel. That's how I feel about it.
- 3:58Speaker 3: I've lost friends of family members on nine eleven, so
- 4:01Speaker 3: did you. And for people who have wreath lasses, I mean,
- 4:06Speaker 3: like their fathers, their husbands, their sons, whomever. It is
- 4:12Speaker 3: outrageous to think he is going to despite their very
- 4:16Speaker 3: clear position that they do not want him at this
- 4:21Speaker 3: nine to eleven, you know event, because families have concluded
- 4:24Speaker 3: he has no place at this twenty fifth anniversary ceremony,
- 4:27Speaker 3: and he's going to come anyway because he needs to
- 4:30Speaker 3: be shown and he needs to have that super smile there.
- 4:32Speaker 3: You know, he's going to make this, unfortunately, what it
- 4:35Speaker 3: shouldn't be. It's not about politics, this is not about
- 4:38Speaker 3: This is moral depravity in effect, and he shouldn't be
- 4:42Speaker 3: there to hurt these people even more than they've been hurt.
- 4:46Speaker 3: And that's how I feel about it. I feel so
- 4:48Speaker 3: strongly about it. It's not about politics, it's not about religion,
- 4:52Speaker 3: you know, It's about honoring the wishes of the grieving
- 4:55Speaker 3: families on that sacred day. The twenty fifth Anniversity of
- 4:58Speaker 3: September eleventh should be about the victims on a political controversy,
- 5:02Speaker 3: and if your presence causes many of those families additional pain,
- 5:06Speaker 3: the respectful thing to do would be a step aside
- 5:08Speaker 3: for that one day, just one day.
- 5:10Speaker 2: But he won't well said, excellent job, Joseph Tacapina. Let
- 5:14Speaker 2: me send a quick shout out during this conversation to
- 5:16Speaker 2: a man listening right now, happens to write security for
- 5:19Speaker 2: all of us here at ABC, is a wonderful guy,
- 5:22Speaker 2: great guy, Dom Alberday. Dom is celebrating a birthday today's
- 5:25Speaker 2: with my friend Patty. They're both listening to you right now, Joseph,
- 5:28Speaker 2: so very happy birthday to Dom, and Dom is going
- 5:31Speaker 2: to be with me talking about nine to eleven.
- 5:33Speaker 1: On nine to twelve, the day after.
- 5:36Speaker 2: There's going to be about seven thousand cops from all
- 5:39Speaker 2: over the country in the theater at Madison Square Garden.
- 5:42Speaker 2: They got such a such a huge amount of people
- 5:46Speaker 2: wanting to come to this at to move the venue,
- 5:48Speaker 2: so Madison Square Garden is putting on this event the
- 5:52Speaker 2: day after nine to eleven for the New York Pipes
- 5:54Speaker 2: and Drums. Again, cops from all across the country. Guess
- 5:57Speaker 2: who's hosting it.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Me, big deal, So happy birthday down that's a very
- 6:01Speaker 1: very cool thing.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Yes, then I'll see you there too. I mean, it's
- 6:04Speaker 3: you know, it's something that is amazing how this countries
- 6:06Speaker 3: come together. I'll never forget it's it. My office was
- 6:08Speaker 3: right there. I saw that second plane hit the tower
- 6:10Speaker 3: in my car, and I'll never forget that day because
- 6:14Speaker 3: what nine to eleven did was show.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Me, well, what were you exactly know before you what
- 6:18Speaker 2: were you exactly in your car on the street? Where
- 6:20Speaker 2: were you when that happened?
- 6:21Speaker 3: West West Side Highway somewhere somewhere in the fifties, on
- 6:26Speaker 3: the way to Federal Court in Brooklyn. I first thought was,
- 6:29Speaker 3: this judge is going to hold me in contempt because
- 6:31Speaker 3: I want to be so late. That's literally what it's going.
- 6:34Speaker 3: I didn't think that was what it was at first.
- 6:36Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe a movie, like you know,
- 6:38Speaker 3: I said, wow, this is amazing how they make that
- 6:41Speaker 3: look real. My second thought was once that second plane hit,
- 6:44Speaker 3: was oh my god, he couldn't see the towers because
- 6:47Speaker 3: of the smoke from the first plane accident. And that's
- 6:50Speaker 3: like everything's going through ahead, the last thing going through ahead.
- 6:52Speaker 3: That was not on purpose. When I realized it, and
- 6:55Speaker 3: it was just it was really horrific. I remember, you know,
- 6:58Speaker 3: Tish called me, get home, Get home. I'm like, I
- 7:00Speaker 3: have to go to court. I have to go to court,
- 7:01Speaker 3: and you know, as I and when it all sort
- 7:04Speaker 3: of sank in, of course, I went home, was with
- 7:07Speaker 3: the kids in the family, and it was just a horrific,
- 7:10Speaker 3: horrific day. But what happened after that day, said to me,
- 7:13Speaker 3: was what makes New York and Americans really what we are.
- 7:17Speaker 3: It showed the true character of this country and these
- 7:19Speaker 3: people and the people in this country. How we all
- 7:21Speaker 3: came together, How how first responds from all over the
- 7:24Speaker 3: country were in New York City, How how the country
- 7:29Speaker 3: came together in a way that I've never experienced it
- 7:32Speaker 3: and will never experience it again, hopefully, because it was
- 7:35Speaker 3: just a brotherhood and a sisterhood of people coming together
- 7:40Speaker 3: to evolve in the United States and to make sure
- 7:44Speaker 3: the citizens understand that this tragedy is not going to
- 7:48Speaker 3: go unanswered. And it wasn't. But we came together the community.
- 7:51Speaker 3: I mean that this country was unbelievable when it came
- 7:53Speaker 3: to that, It really was unbelievable. And I again I'll
- 7:56Speaker 3: never forget it. I'll never forget the feelings, and I'll
- 7:58Speaker 3: forget the people who sacrificed. I mean all those people.
- 8:00Speaker 3: When I watched those documentaries, said the firefighters who went
- 8:03Speaker 3: up there and the first responder who lost their lives,
- 8:05Speaker 3: I still like, I shed tears. It's it's hard for
- 8:09Speaker 3: me not to. I couldn't watch that for like literally
- 8:12Speaker 3: like twenty years. Five years ago I started watching it.
- 8:15Speaker 3: I started watching one of them, and I was, I was.
- 8:18Speaker 3: I couldn't believe the reaction I had because of Burrow
- 8:21Speaker 3: back to life, and it was really really horrible. And
- 8:24Speaker 3: so and look, I'm a lot of the you know,
- 8:27Speaker 3: you know my connection to the military, A lot of
- 8:29Speaker 3: the Special Forces guys and the Special Operations community are
- 8:32Speaker 3: going to be there as well at nine to eleven
- 8:34Speaker 3: because those guys, in particular, those the Force Soldier guys
- 8:37Speaker 3: I was talking about, they have a statue down there.
- 8:39Speaker 3: They're the first ones to go into Afghanistan after nine eleven.
- 8:43Speaker 3: The fifth group from the Special Forces community o DA
- 8:46Speaker 3: five times five, and those guys are the ones who
- 8:48Speaker 3: opened up that distillity I went to in Kentucky, the
- 8:51Speaker 3: Horse Soldier Bourbon, those guys are going to be there.
- 8:54Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is a coming together to
- 8:58Speaker 3: celebrate our resolve at the Americans. Of course to to
- 9:01Speaker 3: to it's a memorial and it's a solemn day, but
- 9:05Speaker 3: it's also a data celebrate our resolve. And that's why
- 9:07Speaker 3: I do not want this. You know, this hater there,
- 9:12Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's he is not someone who who
- 9:15Speaker 3: loves the country. I mean if you look at those
- 9:16Speaker 3: affiliations and he would look at all the people he's
- 9:19Speaker 3: he's supported. Let's start with the Sundpiker preally at America
- 9:25Speaker 3: hating individual jihadist right, anyone who could ever actually say
- 9:29Speaker 3: the words America deserved nine one one, in my opinion,
- 9:32Speaker 3: deserves to be summarily executed like I wouldn't. I would
- 9:35Speaker 3: absolutely destroy him if I saw him in I really was.
- 9:38Speaker 1: I love that.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Another person that you're down on on they ga done
- 9:41Speaker 2: as much as Ma'm Donnie not even close. But he
- 9:43Speaker 2: done on him is Pete hag sat when he got
- 9:45Speaker 2: rid of Chris Donnie Hue and now he did the
- 9:47Speaker 2: same thing to the Minnesota National Guard captain this week.
- 9:50Speaker 2: And it looks like President Trump finally, No, Trump's out
- 9:54Speaker 2: of rough week, he's lashed out at my friend Jineying Piero.
- 9:57Speaker 2: He's lashed out at my friend Bobby Kennedy. Now he's last,
- 10:00Speaker 2: I think against Haig set too. So it looks like
- 10:03Speaker 2: this is not the week to get into what Trump's crosshairs.
- 10:06Speaker 2: But on a serious note, you've been pretty critical of
- 10:08Speaker 2: an honest conversation about Pete hag Seth for quite some time,
- 10:13Speaker 2: So none of this surprises you, right.
- 10:15Speaker 3: No, it doesn't surprise me, and it's still again, it
- 10:17Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't satisfy me that I've been right. It makes
- 10:21Speaker 3: me upset because this is our military, right, this is
- 10:23Speaker 3: the United States Armed Forces, the greatest arm forces in
- 10:25Speaker 3: the world. We now have a situation where we are
- 10:28Speaker 3: in a mess in ouran and that's I'm sorry. You're
- 10:30Speaker 3: the Defense secretary. You want to take credit for all
- 10:32Speaker 3: the good things that happen, you take credit for the
- 10:35Speaker 3: ones that didn't go right well, and so far this
- 10:37Speaker 3: has been a disaster. And Pete Hegseth, you know, for
- 10:39Speaker 3: some reason, he's decided to cut our military's top leaders.
- 10:44Speaker 3: I'll just focus on the army because that's all I
- 10:45Speaker 3: really know. What he's done to our army as far
- 10:49Speaker 3: as destroying generational talent and taking them out and replacing
- 10:53Speaker 3: with someone who is never going to be confirmed by
- 10:55Speaker 3: the Senate because he has no qualifications to do that.
- 10:58Speaker 3: This is general need. You know, when you talk about
- 11:00Speaker 3: replacing General Randy George, who was the Chief Staff the Army,
- 11:03Speaker 3: that's the top ranking officer in the United States Army,
- 11:05Speaker 3: who was a transitional leader, a legendary leader, you know,
- 11:08Speaker 3: really like you know, an iconic person in our army
- 11:11Speaker 3: who was really working on the armies transitioning into this
- 11:14Speaker 3: modern era with AI, with drones. He wrote a book
- 11:17Speaker 3: on it. He was working very closely with our great
- 11:19Speaker 3: Secretary Dan driscoll and and you know, in the middle
- 11:22Speaker 3: of that, in the middle of that, p takes At
- 11:24Speaker 3: decided he was going to fire him for no reason,
- 11:26Speaker 3: not clause, for no reason other than there's a personal
- 11:29Speaker 3: than dead with Lenive and this Randy George. And he
- 11:32Speaker 3: could not cite a reason, you know, there was no cause,
- 11:35Speaker 3: reason given, as he did with some others. Then he
- 11:38Speaker 3: goes and takes out General Donney, who was a generational
- 11:41Speaker 3: talent by all accounts, By all accounts, I mean, he
- 11:44Speaker 3: was our number one general in the United States Army,
- 11:47Speaker 3: our greatest warrior, our greatest leader, one of the great
- 11:50Speaker 3: people come to I mean, to me, he's I call
- 11:54Speaker 3: him family because it's that's close to me. But but
- 11:56Speaker 3: he was one of our greats. And he was replaced
- 11:59Speaker 3: because p Tex said took him out because General Lennieve
- 12:02Speaker 3: didn't like him or they had a personal thing. When
- 12:05Speaker 3: he was fired by General Donniyue, General Donne who has
- 12:07Speaker 3: more qualifications than any even being in the world. So no,
- 12:10Speaker 3: I'm not high on Pete. Heexath right now because he's
- 12:13Speaker 3: not running this military the way he should be running.
- 12:15Speaker 3: He's hurting on military. And then when you see what's
- 12:17Speaker 3: going on with Iran. You know President by By and
- 12:21Speaker 3: I've heard this firsthand, he wanted answers from Haigseeth over
- 12:25Speaker 3: the extreme munition shortages. That what you've.
- 12:28Speaker 1: Been talking up. You've been saying this to me. I
- 12:30Speaker 1: gotta get you caught up. In two months you.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Say, guess what, Iran they got weapons us not so much.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's threatening our options with Iran. I mean
- 12:38Speaker 3: we now have announced just now production agreements are some
- 12:41Speaker 3: of the most critical munitions right like Patriotier Defense missiles,
- 12:46Speaker 3: which is the most vital or or. But these munitions
- 12:49Speaker 3: themselves take said they take years two years at a
- 12:52Speaker 3: minimum to produce, so there's no immediate relief in sight
- 12:55Speaker 3: for the shortages. And you know what we did in
- 12:57Speaker 3: that first month, the first month I'm fighting in around Loan,
- 13:00Speaker 3: we fired off more than eight hundred and fifty table
- 13:02Speaker 3: cruise missiles and more than a thousand Patriots and internal
- 13:06Speaker 3: high Altitude Area defense system missiles. So we've used more
- 13:10Speaker 3: than thirteen hundred of the army's taxaballistic missiles in the
- 13:13Speaker 3: first two weeks of fighting in Iran. So we're down.
- 13:17Speaker 3: We are very down ammunitions. We don't we're not saying
- 13:19Speaker 3: that publicly, of course, And now I understand Haanks SSS
- 13:22Speaker 3: isout blaming fine Bergs his deputy for not ensuring we
- 13:26Speaker 3: had those those those weapons ready to roll. But you
- 13:29Speaker 3: know it's a dangerous thing. It really is, because this
- 13:31Speaker 3: is what and by the way, it also what it
- 13:34Speaker 3: also does, and this is this is important as well.
- 13:37Speaker 3: It really limits our options completely in the rest of
- 13:41Speaker 3: the world. I mean, it's it's it like for instance,
- 13:45Speaker 3: in the in the East we now have you know,
- 13:47Speaker 3: East Asia. It's more dangerous because as a result of
- 13:52Speaker 3: the missile shortages. It's really putting a strain on other
- 13:55Speaker 3: commands in East Asia as well. So the problem is
- 13:58Speaker 3: very acute. It's very acute, and it don't go away. No,
- 14:01Speaker 3: so we you know, and then and then here we
- 14:03Speaker 3: are again again another cease fire. I know, maybe we
- 14:06Speaker 3: have another deal, but but but we have to stop it.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Go agree honestly, you know we it's a it's a
- 14:12Speaker 3: it's an on loop, right, massive attacks coming Wait never mind?
- 14:15Speaker 1: Yeah, well right, yeah, to watch the game.
- 14:18Speaker 3: That's that's you know, it's just if.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Yankees are playing the Dodgers. I mean, I gotta watch
- 14:22Speaker 1: the game.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Uh, give me sixty seconds on excellent work, Jolse. You's
- 14:28Speaker 2: been right about this thing all along. I love our
- 14:30Speaker 2: private conversations. You put them on there. You've been great.
- 14:32Speaker 1: I want to be I know you don't want to
- 14:34Speaker 1: be right, but you want to be done. I know,
- 14:36Speaker 1: I know, I know.
- 14:37Speaker 3: I'm very furious with Wade.
- 14:39Speaker 2: I know, I have these conversations with the k t
- 14:41Speaker 2: mcfalland she's always talking about the economic side of this,
- 14:44Speaker 2: and which is fantastic oil prices and all that is.
- 14:46Speaker 2: If that's the real barometer of other winning the war
- 14:49Speaker 2: and not, of course it's not.
- 14:50Speaker 1: But you know that's that's where she comes from.
- 14:52Speaker 2: It last thing, sixty seconds ran Paul yesterday was great again.
- 14:57Speaker 2: I know this is going to be a quick one
- 14:58Speaker 2: because I already know the answer trying to hold Fauci
- 15:01Speaker 2: contempt in court. Let's face it, eighty five years old.
- 15:04Speaker 2: They waited for some reason. A good friend of mine
- 15:07Speaker 2: told me this. For some reason, they waited for their
- 15:09Speaker 2: statue limitations to run out. They could have done this too,
- 15:13Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci two or three years ago. Why they waited
- 15:16Speaker 2: till now doesn't make any sense. So what it basically
- 15:19Speaker 2: means is there'll be no repercussion, right.
- 15:22Speaker 3: No repercussions. I mean, unfortunately, you know he's and you're
- 15:25Speaker 3: so right about that. I mean, look, this is a
- 15:27Speaker 3: congressional hearing that that really demands answers, right, congresses of
- 15:32Speaker 3: duty is ob taen answers about the pandemic response, NIH
- 15:35Speaker 3: funding decisions and the COVID origins. They haven't damn duty
- 15:39Speaker 3: right and in both in the Fifth Amendment sort of
- 15:42Speaker 3: h I was gonna use a horrifically crude term. I'm
- 15:45Speaker 3: not going to use that term, but blocks blocks our
- 15:47Speaker 3: ability to get those legitimate questions answered. They deserve further investigation.
- 15:52Speaker 3: So now because Fauci's taken the Fifth, you know we're
- 15:55Speaker 3: not going to be able to grill down on him
- 15:57Speaker 3: and get those answers. So, you know, it's fury and
- 15:59Speaker 3: fury to me, especially because this guy held himself out
- 16:02Speaker 3: of the you know, America's savior and hero when he
- 16:05Speaker 3: was the furthest thing from that. Okay, that being said,
- 16:08Speaker 3: he can invoke the Fifth all day long. He's to
- 16:10Speaker 3: hold him in content all you want. Nothing about that
- 16:13Speaker 3: is going to go anywhere, because the Fifth Amendment is
- 16:15Speaker 3: a constitution protection and unfortunately it's it's he's able to
- 16:21Speaker 3: use it because why there are state investigations ongoing. So
- 16:24Speaker 3: the fact that he was pardoned by Biden in this
- 16:28Speaker 3: sort of narrowly tailored federal inquiry does not alleviate his
- 16:33Speaker 3: fifth a member of privileges because you know, he can
- 16:36Speaker 3: only parn in the present several offenses if testimony could
- 16:40Speaker 3: provide evidence relevant to a state prosecutor or investigation, the
- 16:43Speaker 3: Fifth Amendment privilege is alive and kicking. So so he
- 16:47Speaker 3: did what he had to do. Unfortunately, he's not putting
- 16:50Speaker 3: the country first again. But but whatever, and you know,
- 16:53Speaker 3: he's uh, he really needs to just go away and
- 16:56Speaker 3: fade away because this is we'll never getting the answers
- 16:58Speaker 3: we need here. He's never getting to the corporate he's
- 17:01Speaker 3: never gonna have to really answer to any of this thing.
- 17:03Speaker 3: So being held in contempt by Congress, big deal. What
- 17:07Speaker 3: to do really doesn't at the end of the day,
- 17:09Speaker 3: it's not going to do a damn thing.
- 17:10Speaker 1: There you have it.
- 17:11Speaker 2: You got eighteen minutes because it came on in the
- 17:13Speaker 2: nine o'clock hour. That would have been eleven or twelve
- 17:16Speaker 2: minutes late eight o'clock hour. Here you got eighteen minutes
- 17:18Speaker 2: of pined on four different things. You were magnificent and
- 17:21Speaker 2: that's a home run for my nine o'clock ratings.
- 17:23Speaker 1: So thank you. I love you more. You're really really great.
- 17:28Speaker 1: They're always great. Great job this morning, Joseph, Thank you
- 17:31Speaker 1: so much.
- 17:32Speaker 3: Man.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Joseph Tacopina, the best defense attorney anywhere in the world,
- 17:36Speaker 2: dear friend of mine for forty eight years. And we
- 17:39Speaker 2: know some guys that were killed in those buildings at day.
- 17:43Speaker 2: We all do me Joseph and I, all of us
- 17:45Speaker 2: polyprep guys.
- 17:47Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.
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