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- 0:17Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. I'm a staff writer here at how
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- 0:22Speaker 1: very attractive and trust the editor Chris Palette. Chris, how's
- 0:25Speaker 1: your go kie? Oh? It's great? Thanks. So we wrote
- 0:29Speaker 1: this article about whether or not Nazi war criminals are
- 0:32Speaker 1: still a large and UM the Simon Weisenthal Center. UH.
- 0:36Speaker 1: This this group that's dedicated to finding rooting out the
- 0:39Speaker 1: last of the Nazi war criminals who may or may
- 0:42Speaker 1: not be still alive. UM has launched Operation Last Day,
- 0:47Speaker 1: Last Chance UH in a in a in a last
- 0:49Speaker 1: ditch effort. But UM, while I was researching this, Chris,
- 0:54Speaker 1: I found a lot of stuff that that just I
- 0:56Speaker 1: couldn't fit into the article. UM. One of the things
- 1:00Speaker 1: that that stuck out to me the most was the Massad.
- 1:03Speaker 1: You know what the Massada is. That's the Israeli secret
- 1:06Speaker 1: service right it is now. They have been chasing Nazis
- 1:11Speaker 1: for decades and have been fairly successful at it. They
- 1:14Speaker 1: found Klaus Barbie. UH. They also found Adolf Eichmann, who
- 1:19Speaker 1: was pretty much the engineer of the nazis final solution
- 1:22Speaker 1: of exterminating all these um supposedly unwanted races. UM. But
- 1:28Speaker 1: I also found something very um interesting. The Massad actually
- 1:33Speaker 1: engaged in UH employing and hiding some wanted Nazi war criminals,
- 1:39Speaker 1: which I found startling. You know, this this group that's
- 1:42Speaker 1: dedicated to rooting out for conviction UM or at the
- 1:46Speaker 1: very least for trial Nazi war criminals UM having employed
- 1:51Speaker 1: one the guy they employed UM was this doctor who
- 1:55Speaker 1: actually came up with the idea of mobile gas vans, right,
- 2:00Speaker 1: so that the the Nazis wouldn't have to shoot the
- 2:04Speaker 1: Jews any longer to kill them. They could just load
- 2:06Speaker 1: them up in these vans and carbon monoxide was put
- 2:09Speaker 1: into the end of the vans and and whoever was
- 2:12Speaker 1: inside was killed. And the worst part was these vans
- 2:15Speaker 1: were they looked like Red Cross ambulances, which is just
- 2:19Speaker 1: just about as bad as it gets time to think. Yeah,
- 2:21Speaker 1: I think it's also a violation of the Geneva Convention.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I'm quite sure, but I think pretty much percent of
- 2:27Speaker 1: what the Nazis did was in violation of the Geneva Conventions.
- 2:30Speaker 1: That was much out the window from day one, you know,
- 2:33Speaker 1: not about following the rules. Well you said too in
- 2:36Speaker 1: the article that they weren't the only ones who had
- 2:39Speaker 1: employed some of the former Nazis certainly not. Yeah, who else, um,
- 2:44Speaker 1: you know, even the American government. Um, I think you
- 2:46Speaker 1: said the British too. You know. Basically, if they had something,
- 2:51Speaker 1: uh that that they could use, the governments could use that,
- 2:54Speaker 1: they were willing to take them on. I know a
- 2:56Speaker 1: lot of that. The nuclear and rocket scientists too, were
- 3:00Speaker 1: were very important for them to uh to grab before
- 3:03Speaker 1: they could be tried. I guess definitely Project paper Clip.
- 3:07Speaker 1: It was an actual secret project undertaken by the United
- 3:11Speaker 1: States government to poach as many Nazi scientists as possible.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Some of them were war criminals, some of them were
- 3:18Speaker 1: lesser known, lesser involved people. But you know, a lot
- 3:22Speaker 1: of people argue that we wouldn't have made it to
- 3:24Speaker 1: space first had it not been for former Nazi scientists
- 3:28Speaker 1: like Verna von Brown and some of the other guys
- 3:31Speaker 1: like him who really helped on the American rocket team.
- 3:36Speaker 1: That's amazing to think about that they would be exonerated,
- 3:39Speaker 1: you know, simply because of you know, some of the
- 3:41Speaker 1: other things that they could bring. But at least maybe
- 3:43Speaker 1: they could uh make some positive contributions. And I think also, um,
- 3:47Speaker 1: from my understanding, Americans did undertake a process of determining
- 3:51Speaker 1: just how involved you know, a certain person was, at
- 3:55Speaker 1: least the the U. S. Government. I think with the
- 3:57Speaker 1: c i A. It was a a different matter. I
- 4:00Speaker 1: think they used whoever they felt could help them. I
- 4:03Speaker 1: wouldn't no matter what involvement they had. Do you know
- 4:06Speaker 1: anything about that? Honestly, I don't. I haven't done done
- 4:09Speaker 1: nearly as much research as year. Well, let me Adolf Eichmann, who,
- 4:13Speaker 1: like I said, was finally captured. He was actually kidnapped
- 4:16Speaker 1: in Argentina by the massade. Uh. He was used by
- 4:20Speaker 1: the CIA as a West German agent um and they
- 4:24Speaker 1: knew who he was, they knew what he'd done, and
- 4:27Speaker 1: they were still using him as a secret agent in
- 4:29Speaker 1: West Germany. It's amazing. Well that's it for for Are
- 4:34Speaker 1: there still Nazi more criminals at large? You can find
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