Latest / Profitable Christian Business / What's on Your Backburner? Awakening Dormant Desires & Unlocking Entrepreneurial Growth with Albert Pellissier
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to another episode of The Profitable of Christian Business.
- 0:04I am so, so pleased to have my guest uh Albert Pelliché, sorry here, the author of this amazing book, What's On Your Backburner.
- 0:14uh I have honestly, Albert, I've only a quarter of the way through this book right now, but my mind is blown already.
- 0:22But we're gonna dive into that and uh some talk about your faith journey and uh some, really.
- 0:29Some of the things he's going to highlight probably some of the things that are in this book and it's going to blow your mind like it blew my mind.
- 0:37all right.
- 0:39So Albert, I ask every guest when they come on to kind of give a brief introduction about themselves other than just offering this book, tell us a little bit about yourself.
- 0:47Really, my claim to fame is uh being a lifelong entrepreneur.
- 0:51I've never had a real job as you might think of it in that way.
- 0:56And it's really surviving by my wits this whole time.
- 0:59I'm in my early 60s now, so I was in publishing, real estate, hair salons, and then eventually ended up in the public speaking and coaching space.
- 1:08And I still do all the other things too, but this is where I am at the moment.
- 1:13Nice.
- 1:14I stopped going to hair salons a long time ago.
- 1:20Awesome, awesome, Albert.
- 1:23That's true, that's true.
- 1:26I'm starting to think of the old hair club for men.
- 1:29I'm not just a member, I'm a client or something like that.
- 1:35So what we do at the very beginning is kind of get to know you a little bit.
- 1:39I ask them kind of lighthearted, sometimes they're lighthearted, but...
- 1:42we end up going deep.
- 1:43So we'll see where these go.
- 1:46What's something most people would never guess about you?
- 1:49So I really, you know, I'm just gonna drop the bombshell on you.
- 1:52uh Back in the mid eighties, I was a fifth year junior at LSU going to college and um wasn't really a fantastic student.
- 2:04And my roommate was a manager for the LSU football team and he happened to have the keys to Tiger Stadium.
- 2:12So one night, uh
- 2:14He let us in, me and another friend, the three of us went in and we went and we played Frisbee on the 50 yard line of the moonlit empty Tiger Stadium.
- 2:24And it was a beautiful night.
- 2:27And then on the way out, we made a big mistake and we decided we were hungry.
- 2:33So we grabbed a box of nacho chips out of the concession stand and we had one those one gallon cans of synthetic cheese.
- 2:41And we had that under our arms.
- 2:43but we had made so much noise in the stadium that the beat cop heard something going on in there and he came in, we all got arrested and the next morning we were expelled from
- 2:54college.
- 2:56my goodness, wow.
- 3:00I could ask a lot of questions on that, but I think we'll move on.
- 3:04Yeah, so I'll just add to it that without that jolt, I would have never graduated, honestly.
- 3:14It forced me to get serious and I had to go to mandatory counseling to get back in school.
- 3:20And my counselor was this kind of an older lady, she was wise.
- 3:24And she really convinced me and inspired me, honestly, to go back and finish what I started.
- 3:29I was just gonna bail out and never go back again.
- 3:32And I went back the following January and in 12 months, 12 calendar months, I really did over a year and a half worth of schooling and got enough credits to get my degree.
- 3:44as things often are, sometimes your worst moments turn out to be the best transitions you ever make.
- 3:52Yes, I can think of times in my own life where that is true.
- 3:56So that really lit a fire on you under your eyes.
- 3:59Yeah, it just kind of, you know, I really felt in this strange way that every 12 years I'm going down the wrong path, staying on it a little too long.
- 4:09And I feel like God comes and smacks me a little bit and wakes me up and gives me an awakening of some sort.
- 4:16And then I change direction and I seem to go for another 12 years, maybe two years too far.
- 4:23And then I get another, get another little slap and.
- 4:28And it's kind of a ping ponged around, you know, for the last four decades like that.
- 4:34Nice, and I think we're gonna get into even more of that a little later in this conversation.
- 4:38But as I mentioned, sometimes I ask this lighthearted question and we end up going deep.
- 4:43uh I would love your insight on, uh I'm not sure if this is even the right way to say it, but sometimes you have uh investment bias.
- 4:52And what I mean by that is you spend so long doing something uh and you've put so much work into it, it may not be the right way to go, but you don't wanna give it up because
- 5:02you've
- 5:03put so much into it.
- 5:04I love your insights into that.
- 5:07You know, it's, I think just people get into a routine or a rut and you're just doing what you're doing and you're not even thinking about if there's an alternative.
- 5:16ah And I think, you know, I know personally, I just stay, I guess I'm willing to tolerate the misery or even if it's just the uncomfortableness or the routine of it, I'm willing to
- 5:31tolerate it too long.
- 5:34And it usually,
- 5:35You know, unfortunately, I wish I was more proactive and I probably am today than I was 40 years ago.
- 5:42But being uh really just like waiting for a crisis to force me out of it was the standard.
- 5:48I think a lot of people do that is they wait for something to force their decision in another direction instead of being more proactive about it.
- 5:58Yeah, I don't know if you still do this, but I know you were holding retreats for men as part of your programs.
- 6:06So my question to you is, just from your perspective, where do you like to go to kind of clear your head and refocus?
- 6:14You know, I have a private office that's in a local spiritual center, just happens to be practically around the corner from my house.
- 6:22And I made it really um just like a nice, um soft atmosphere in there.
- 6:28It's sort of dark in a certain sense, you know, where it gets the sun.
- 6:32It's just really super peaceful and comfortable.
- 6:35And I find that going there in the mornings, especially if I'm...
- 6:40something's bothering me or I'm worrying about something or I'm losing sleep over that night.
- 6:44I really go to my office.
- 6:46It's real quiet in the daytime and I do my prayer there.
- 6:49I do my journaling there.
- 6:52And I just, it's that peace and quiet of just being in a peaceful space.
- 6:55And I usually within an hour or two, I feel pretty upbeat even if I'm in a bad, you know, a bad zone for that week or day or month.
- 7:07I love that because this is kind of timely because this morning I woke up.
- 7:12You know, sometimes where the stress just starts to pile on early in the morning, like situations happen that ah you weren't expecting.
- 7:18And then I'm a big morning routine person.
- 7:21And if something breaks up my morning routine, I start to get stressed.
- 7:24ah But just the fact, maybe changing location for a brief time can help you get re-centered and refocused and kind of.
- 7:35give a new perspective.
- 7:36I love that.
- 7:37I'm hoping a lot of the entrepreneurs that are listening are taking notes on that.
- 7:40Sometimes if you're too close to the situation, sometimes there's a lot of stress.
- 7:45Sometimes you have to step outside, go on a walk, possibly go to a place where you feel more peace and then come back and readdress the situation.
- 7:55So I love that you brought that up.
- 7:56I do love a long walk too.
- 7:59A friend of mine and his wife, they walk four miles together every single day, rain or shine, summer, fall, it doesn't matter.
- 8:08I haven't been able to keep up that much of a routine, but I do find a good long walk is a great clear your head method.
- 8:19Awesome.
- 8:21You describe yourself as living at the intersection of ambition and laziness.
- 8:26Can you kind of talk about that a little bit?
- 8:29Yeah, so somebody told me this once.
- 8:31They said, you know, when you look back on your life, you're going to realize that the whole thing was about resolving the differences in the thinking style between your mother
- 8:41and your father.
- 8:44Now I'll let you pause and think about that for a minute.
- 8:47know, when he said that to me, I really thought back and my mom was, she was a hustler.
- 8:55She was ambitious.
- 8:56She was born in the projects of New Orleans.
- 9:00She lived in the Desire Street housing projects.
- 9:03She wanted to make something of herself.
- 9:04She was very ambitious and really just never gave up, you know, just a natural uh urge to climb.
- 9:10And my father, by contrast,
- 9:13He was a bartender in the French Quarter of New Orleans and he just wanted to work his job and go home.
- 9:18He turned down every promotion opportunity.
- 9:21He never wanted to be any kind of a food and beverage manager, restaurant, hotel manager.
- 9:28He didn't want to take any more responsibility than just doing his job and going home.
- 9:34oh So he had just a completely different idea uh of how to work life.
- 9:41some people may think, yeah, they were divorced when I was three years old.
- 9:45So that wasn't going to really work out of those two together.
- 9:49But when I look back, when that guy told me that, I said, wow, you know, at that point, even I don't even remember how long ago it was.
- 9:56I thought to myself, I really have been trying to kind of satisfy my own inner ambitions and at the same time, mitigate the fact that I want to do the least amount of work as
- 10:08possible.
- 10:09And it was really true for me.
- 10:12wow, so there's a lot to unpack there even with what you said.
- 10:16So is it possible to be successful?
- 10:20uh
- 10:24trying to think of the best way to ask this question, with that dual mentality.
- 10:31Is it possible?
- 10:32Well, I have done it.
- 10:33So I'll say that.
- 10:35Now, you know, one thing is, you know, a lot of people think, you know, lazy is a four letter word.
- 10:40And I really see that it can be looked at differently.
- 10:46So there is pathetically lazy, right?
- 10:49And I'm not really talking about that.
- 10:52If you just can't get going no matter what, there's probably no hope for you.
- 10:57But there's also a way to look at laziness as efficiency or optimizing things.
- 11:03And I don't know if this is true, but I saw a quote that Bill Gates said whenever he really wanted some software, uh piece of elegant software written, he would choose his
- 11:13laziest programmers because he knew they would just come up with shortcuts.
- 11:18So when I say lazy, yeah, there is a differentiation between pathetically lazy and just wanting to
- 11:26get the most for the least effort.
- 11:28And if you think about it, that's nature.
- 11:32Water always finds the path of least resistance.
- 11:35As human beings, we're really no different.
- 11:38And I've met a lot of successful people that I just assumed were 100 % productive when I didn't see them.
- 11:47And I would say something about having the lazy gene.
- 11:51And they would say, oh yeah, me too.
- 11:53And I was always.
- 11:55kind of shocked.
- 11:55was like, wow, really?
- 11:56You, you know, like one of the most productive people I know sort of thing would admit to being lazy.
- 12:02I'm pretty sure everyone is to some degree.
- 12:06Yeah, I hear work smart.
- 12:10There's the work hard, work smart.
- 12:12I think the people that tend to lean a little bit on the lazy side uh want to work smarter, right?
- 12:19To get to the goals faster and find the shortcuts.
- 12:22So uh let's all be a little bit lazier because sometimes we can work so hard and we're actually using up more time uh working hard than we could by being a little bit lazy.
- 12:34You know, one of my favorite quotes, it's Stephen Covey.
- 12:37He said, uh there's no bigger waste than doing something well that didn't need to be done at all.
- 12:44Yep.
- 12:45Yeah, that's Steve and Cubby.
- 12:48uh Seven habits of highly effective people, right?
- 12:50Yeah, I don't know if it was in that book, but I remember seeing that and thinking, man, this is so true.
- 12:57Maybe it didn't even need to be done.
- 13:00Right.
- 13:00Yeah.
- 13:01I think often we just put a to-do list together and tackle it without giving each task consideration.
- 13:08We just plug ahead.
- 13:09So yeah, that's awesome.
- 13:12And that's just going to depend on, you my wife is a very super productive person and she gets up in the morning and she just goes until she falls in bed at night, you know, and I
- 13:24don't always know if everything she's doing is really needs to be done, you know, she comes home exhausted.
- 13:31It's just her style.
- 13:32And I put a lot of thought into it and think, okay, what's most important for me to do, you know, and prioritize.
- 13:41and set like a low bar.
- 13:43So I used to joke in my men's mastermind group oh that, you know, my secret to success was just really setting the bar so low that I could just step over it.
- 13:54And, you know, they would laugh, but I said, really, I set my goal every day to do the two most important things.
- 14:00And then after that, everything is a bonus.
- 14:03And so it means I can do two things and then just completely blow off the rest of the day.
- 14:08That what actually happens in
- 14:10Reality is usually once you get the two most important things, there's like a momentum that kicks in and you can do a lot more.
- 14:18But if I look at a list and it's kind of daunting, uh sometimes I just won't do anything.
- 14:25And so I don't get started.
- 14:26So a while back, I just set my daily goal.
- 14:30If I get my top two things done each day, then I've succeeded regardless of what happens after.
- 14:37Yeah, you and I are very much aligned on that.
- 14:39We have a goal-getting lab call that we do every week, and it's always focusing on where the two needle movers that you have and make sure to do those.
- 14:49Just to use a practical example, maybe you have this long to-do list of things, and maybe the thing you need to do is hire that VA or hire that person, could be the needle mover
- 15:00that you do, and then all those other things get done more quickly without you.
- 15:05Yeah, exactly.
- 15:06I know I end up quoting a lot of books because I love to read and I love to absorb other people's wisdom.
- 15:13um have you ever read the E-Myth?
- 15:17It's been a while though, so asking me to recall anything out of it might be difficult.
- 15:22Well, the brilliant point that I took from the book was he said, even if you had one location of something or just one, you know, one business, he said, run it as if you had
- 15:36500, which means if you're doing something within that business that it would be impossible for you to do, if you had 500 locations, then truly you don't need to do it
- 15:46yourself.
- 15:48And I took that to heart and really started going through
- 15:51my routines.
- 15:52uh One of things I used to do just anecdotally was I own that hair salon and uh twice a month I would go get all of the supplies, the cleaning supplies and paper towels.
- 16:03And, you know, even though that doesn't sound like a big deal, I would, you know, drive over there, load up my truck, drive back to the salon, unload it.
- 16:11It took a couple hours, right?
- 16:13So four hours a month.
- 16:15And I thought if I had 500 salons, there's no way I'd be picking up the paper towels.
- 16:21And so I set something up where they left my card on file and my janitorial service, they could get what they needed and charge it to my card.
- 16:30And then they put it up.
- 16:32And so I essentially bought myself four hours of time a month.
- 16:37I think I ended up paying like 25 bucks every time they picked up supplies.
- 16:43For $50, I bought myself four hours.
- 16:46Yeah, there's there's such a lesson in there and it's I think a lot of entrepreneurs Don't properly value their time and not even where in the stage that they're at but in the stage
- 16:56that they're going Like I think a lot of people think I'm at this stage This is what you don't need to just think about where you are you think about where you're going How much
- 17:04your time is valuable then and start acting like that person that has the more valuable time So because then you'll become that person, right?
- 17:13So oh
- 17:15important just to value your time.
- 17:16I mean, you don't have to spend every hour that's available working.
- 17:21I don't think it, it shouldn't be necessary in my mind.
- 17:26If I'm working that much, then I'm doing something wrong is what I think to myself.
- 17:30Yeah, I was in a mastermind meeting many, many years ago, and there was a guy in there that basically said he was a bum, but he made millions of dollars.
- 17:42The reason, because he was super lazy.
- 17:44He woke up, wrote an email, and it made lots of money.
- 17:47He's just sending new email every day, teaching people how to do exactly that, like write emails that will make you money.
- 17:54So the rest of the day, he spent doing whatever he wanted to do.
- 17:59Yeah, no, you know, then I think you, that's when you really need a purpose to fill that, you know, otherwise, I think really having too much time on your hands, it can be painful
- 18:11as well.
- 18:12That's very, very true.
- 18:13So I think that's a nice segue to start talking about faith a little bit.
- 18:16So what does it mean for you to align your calling with your daily life?
- 18:24I had an epiphany one day that really what I was put here on earth for was to take good care of people.
- 18:34just came as a pure, honestly, just a download from God.
- 18:39And I just knew in that moment, you know, at the time I was kind of complaining about pulling the wagon and all the things I had to do and my responsibilities.
- 18:49And I thought to myself, you know, really, you've always been taken care of.
- 18:54is what I thought.
- 18:56know, from the time I was an infant, right, there were people there feeding me, taking care of me.
- 19:01My life hasn't really been that difficult.
- 19:04People took me to school on a bus, teachers were there.
- 19:07And I thought to myself, yeah, this is what I do.
- 19:10Really, this is the key to my success is having this mindset of taking good care of people.
- 19:17oh You know, my main living comes from
- 19:21oh apartment buildings in the hair salon, which is, uh it's a salon mall.
- 19:25So I'm renting space in there.
- 19:27It's really taking care of all those tenants that leads to sort of the ease that I have and allows me the space and time to do the things that I'm more passionate about.
- 19:38But I'm just totally dedicated to taking truly good care of these people.
- 19:43And as long as I'm doing that, I'm making decisions about what's best for them instead of
- 19:50ego-driven, you know, what's best for me.
- 19:53And I find that it's the best long-term success strategy is to take good care of people.
- 19:59And you know what, when people find somebody who does genuinely take good care of them, guess what?
- 20:05They keep that person in their life, you know, because apparently it's more rare than I'm even thinking.
- 20:11And so the longevity of my tenants, both in my other two businesses, man, people just stay with me forever.
- 20:21And that really makes everything more profitable, more efficient, and really more rewarding.
- 20:28Yes, it is.
- 20:30It's a God thing.
- 20:31uh God has really been weaving through uh my life this particular this through July and into this month is the idea of stewardship.
- 20:40uh I was I was working out the other day before one of our uh client calls or coaching calls and uh he really put that on my heart.
- 20:50uh And then I went into that call and we talked about it.
- 20:55oh The more you steward and it's not just stewarding your money I think a lot of people just think of the Bible talks about stewarding money It's about stewarding the
- 21:03relationships that you build right and we talked about clients like Sometimes it's not just about getting new clients though If you can steward the clients you have really well
- 21:13They're gonna that's gonna grow your business because they're gonna talk about how well that you serve them, right?
- 21:19I mean, people know when you genuinely care about them.
- 21:24You and I met through Justin.
- 21:26don't know if you've mentioned, I'm sure you have on your pod.
- 21:29You can just tell Justin cares about even whoever he's selling something to.
- 21:36He wants you to benefit.
- 21:39You know when somebody wants what's best for you.
- 21:43And yeah, why wouldn't you go back to that person overtaking a chance with?
- 21:47someone else who may be just thinking short term and just trying to make a sale.
- 21:53Yes.
- 21:53uh Quick plug, anyone listening, because you're all Christian Archbrewers, if you don't know Justin Janikowski yet or Fates to Influence, look him up.
- 22:02uh Friend him.
- 22:03He's become a good friend to me and uh Albert as well, as you can tell.
- 22:09So quick plug, check out Fates to Influence with Justin, especially if you want help with your sales, because he is a master at helping people get better in their selling, in their
- 22:20process for selling.
- 22:22I agree.
- 22:24So let's talk about kind of your journey through faith.
- 22:27uh where and start wherever you want to, but kind of take us through how that's weaved into your business life.
- 22:35So it really, you know, it happened 14 years ago.
- 22:39You know, if you had asked me 15 years ago, started talking to me about faith and spirituality, you know, even though I grew up as an Episcopalian, went to church, went to
- 22:51Sunday school, my parents were the Sunday school teachers, oh the youth group leaders, pardon me.
- 22:57And I can't say that I really understood it beyond just like an intellectual capacity.
- 23:05I didn't really know what it meant deeply.
- 23:10you know, I was, you know, the entrepreneur, was building my real estate business, you know, building the salon business.
- 23:17um found myself, I was around, you know, 48 years old at the time, probably coming into what most would think of as a midlife crisis of sorts.
- 23:26And, em you know, at that point, I had been doing all that for about 12 years.
- 23:31There's a 12 year thing coming up again.
- 23:34And if...
- 23:36If my neighbors looked over at me, they probably thought I had it made.
- 23:43What they didn't know at the time was I was irritable.
- 23:46I was grouchy most of the time.
- 23:48uh know, when you're managing property, lots of things can go wrong every day, all day, all week.
- 23:55And I would just take those things to heart.
- 23:59I looked at every time, you know, would be close, getting close to the end of the month, maybe an odd month, and I would have some sort of a
- 24:06financial surplus, you know, in my checking account.
- 24:08And I would think, yeah, look, I'm finally making it right.
- 24:11And then I'd get a call, somebody's refrigerator broke or whatever.
- 24:15And I'd be like, why is this always the case?
- 24:18Why can't I make it through a month?
- 24:20You know, like a dollar extra.
- 24:23And my wife would tell the kids, you know, stay away from dad, he's grouchy.
- 24:28You know, that was pretty much was the story in my household.
- 24:33So this is the state I'm in, you know.
- 24:35material possessions, my own house, my own business, had nice, decent cars, more money coming in each month than I probably would have imagined 15 years before.
- 24:49But in truth, I wasn't happy.
- 24:52I wasn't enjoying myself.
- 24:53was mostly miserable.
- 24:56Okay, then fast forward two weeks and my salon business was just really starting to crumble.
- 25:04People were moving out.
- 25:05weekly and I didn't understand what was happening and I had borrowed the money to open it.
- 25:12I had taken out loans against my apartment building.
- 25:15So it was really just highly leveraged house of cards and I didn't know what was happening.
- 25:21It hadn't happened before and I just could see it all beginning to crumble, collapse.
- 25:28And I thought to myself in that moment, I said, look, I have a couple of choices here.
- 25:34I don't doubt that I can go back and put the effort in and turn this thing around and get it back to the way it was.
- 25:42But the way it was, I wasn't even enjoying myself.
- 25:47So it's gotta be more to it than that.
- 25:49And I've been doing this long enough.
- 25:52know, at that time I had been in business almost 30 years and um I thought to myself, is really what's separating me from happiness, is it?
- 26:03honestly just another, an extra 5,000 a month, you know, is it that growth that I'm looking for?
- 26:09Is it 10,000 a month?
- 26:12I said, you know, I have more now than I had 10 years ago and it's not really paying off in any, you know, psychic sense here that there's something else missing because if I kid
- 26:23myself from this point and I just go back and try to fix what I have and grow what I have to sort of get through this,
- 26:32and profit, right?
- 26:34That I'm imagining is the solution to all my problems.
- 26:38Then I'm going to wake up and I'm going to be 60 years old, 10 years older, and come to the same conclusion that it's not about the money.
- 26:50And so I made a decision that day that I was going to spend the next 10 years of my life figuring out what was it that truly made a man happy and what was I missing.
- 27:02And if I look back, Doug, that was the beginning of what I would call my spiritual journey and awakening to faith.
- 27:09was when everything was falling apart is when I had my, you know, come to Jesus moment and said, yeah, I'm missing something important.
- 27:21I had that hole in my, that you always hear people talk about the hole in my heart.
- 27:26And I was trying to fill it from the outside.
- 27:29And that's when I started turning around and realizing that inside, I had this wellspring of really love and oh wisdom all inside of me.
- 27:44And all I needed to do was reverse that flow from trying to fill the hole from the outside to just turning on that spigot from the inside and giving.
- 27:55And the way that it manifested was,
- 27:58As I went back to the salon to try to figure out how I was going to rectify the situation, I had an epiphany one day that the reason that people were leaving work, it wasn't because
- 28:10they weren't good at what they did for work.
- 28:12They were great cosmetologists or barbers.
- 28:15They were great at their craft.
- 28:16They were great at their skill.
- 28:18What they weren't good at and no one taught them and no one teaches in beauty school is the fundamentals of business.
- 28:26you
- 28:27And so I said, this is why they're leaving.
- 28:29They don't know how to manage their money and plan and grow their business.
- 28:33So I started teaching weekly classes first on just basic business skills.
- 28:39And Doug, I was sharing what I thought were pretty simplistic ideas.
- 28:43And they had their notepads and were furiously writing.
- 28:47It's like no one had ever shared this information with them.
- 28:51And so three weeks in, I started realizing, you
- 28:55I really don't know anything about the beauty industry.
- 28:58You know, I'm really their landlord.
- 29:01And so I didn't feel like I could help them fully because I really didn't understand what they were going through.
- 29:08So I went to some of the stylists who worked there that had been in the business for 20 years or more and asked if they would come teach a class.
- 29:17And they were all happy to.
- 29:18And so each week I rotated the teachers as these seasoned veterans in their
- 29:23And I sat along in the class and my mind was blown by what they were sharing.
- 29:28And then here was the thing that really changed everything.
- 29:32In 12 to 14 weeks, there were eight students, they were business owners, but they were stylists in their own little mini suite.
- 29:42They came to the classes.
- 29:44Not one of them did less than 2X their revenue in just three months, really.
- 29:50Some of them did three and four X.
- 29:53their previous revenue.
- 29:56thought they would get a 10 or a 20 % bonus, but it was mind blowing.
- 30:01And so what ended up happening was these people that's a tight knit industry, they told their friends how much money they were making at my salon.
- 30:10And I started just getting calls of people wanting to rent the empty spaces.
- 30:15And about five months later or so, it was completely full and I had a waiting list and I didn't even advertise.
- 30:22And that's when I realized that my facility, which previously was a rent extraction exercise, and it was just about me and getting my money, when I changed the framing of it
- 30:38to say, you know what this place, this is a place of personal and business development.
- 30:42And it's an opportunity for me to really give of myself.
- 30:47And as I started giving,
- 30:50I really just started tapping into just the deeper, just a deeper part of myself and realize that there truly was a spirit separate, you know, from my ego.
- 31:02And it was the beginning of really everything that I do now.
- 31:06That is so beautiful, Albert.
- 31:09Just the pivot from being kind of the, knowing that you're looking to receive instead of give and then changing that direction and giving and seeing the fruit that comes with it.
- 31:21And you could just go back to the whole stewardship thing.
- 31:24Like you started to stewardship people even better than you had previously and the fruit was starting to bear, not just for them, but for you as well.
- 31:32So there's a great lesson in there for anybody listening.
- 31:36you
- 31:37Yeah, it was, was truly remarkable.
- 31:39Um, you know, I'd have the, the privilege 12 years later, um, you know, get on the 12th, right.
- 31:47That after sort of riding the ship there and getting it going again, uh, and then hiring a manager to just take over.
- 31:56I sort of stepped out to do all, you know, my coaching work and the retreats and things.
- 32:01And then over time it.
- 32:03it started to deteriorate without my love and attention to it.
- 32:07And I found myself having to go back two years ago and manage it myself and do the same thing.
- 32:14And it was a real interesting test to see, was it just a one-off thing or would it work?
- 32:24Is what I think I discovered real, real enough that I could do it again?
- 32:31And so here I'm sitting two years later and I still manage it myself personally.
- 32:35And I really realized that there's just something about the owner infusing their spirit into a place that's, it's not, it's not easily exchangeable for someone else who doesn't
- 32:49care in the same way.
- 32:51And one of my longest serving tenants there, he's been there for 17 years.
- 32:56He said, Albert, yeah, we just like you to come around, know, we just.
- 33:01oh
- 33:02That's it.
- 33:02You know, it's just, I don't know.
- 33:03It's just, I think you bring your spirit into your business in a way that you may not realize is being felt by your clients and the people you serve, but it's palpable to them.
- 33:18They are coming to you.
- 33:19They're buying from you.
- 33:20They want to be associated with you because of who you are.
- 33:26Yeah, take anything that you sell out of the equation.
- 33:30Like you could say, I am in the building houses business.
- 33:34I'm in the retail business.
- 33:36You're in the serving people business, right?
- 33:39If you take that motto, uh that take the material thing out of it and just put, you're there to serve people, your business will grow.
- 33:48There's probably a lot of managerial stuff that training that could be applied there.
- 33:53Like it's hard to...
- 33:54oh Nobody cares as much as the owner, right?
- 33:58When you put a manager in place.
- 34:00So hiring very well.
- 34:02If you want it to leave, it's not always the easiest thing to keep the same kind of status quo.
- 34:09And then look, you know, for my rental property, I do have a fantastic manager now, ah you know, and I had to replace somebody else who wasn't that great and who worked for me for a
- 34:18real long time.
- 34:19uh You know, I hate to admit, sometimes we take the easy route and we keep a person in a position that we know is not the best.
- 34:28ah you know, I know I've been too lazy because I don't want to do the work of finding somebody, taking a chance on them and then having to
- 34:36start over and teach him everything that the other person knows.
- 34:41But you know, when that salon turned around for me like that, and I really felt much more fulfilled being more of a mentor role and a teacher and a coach, that's really what
- 34:53inspired me to realize how much I love doing that.
- 34:56Prior to that experience, I never, it just didn't click for me of how much I enjoyed doing that with my time.
- 35:04But when I went back and I looked at my apartment situation and my previous manager, who she wasn't that great, she was letting it sort of slide and deteriorate, not treating
- 35:16people at the level that I would.
- 35:19I took that same lesson and I said, you know, the reason that people come and they stay with me or the reason they need an apartment is they're out working hard all day.
- 35:32They're on the playing field of the world.
- 35:34They're trying to produce, but when they come home, they want a place that's a sanctuary.
- 35:39They want a place that they can relax and not have to worry about the hustle and bustle of the world.
- 35:45So that means what I should do is make sure that everything looks good, is cleaned up, works.
- 35:52They're not looking at trash or just anything that would bring them down and make them depressed about where they're living.
- 35:59And so then I started infusing that same
- 36:02take good care of people and create the sanctuary for them to live in when it came to just their apartment.
- 36:09And so here in the same way that I pivoted from, okay, this is a rental property and these people better pay me my rent once a month, right?
- 36:18Or they're gonna get evicted.
- 36:20From that to these are people who need a place to retreat from the world, heal, sleep, recover, so they can get up the next morning and go out and do it again.
- 36:30And it really colored all of my decision making of like where I spent money, like which projects, improvement projects we would go.
- 36:39And I just saw everything through that same lens.
- 36:43And so the same is the salon.
- 36:45I have tenants that have lived with me for 20 years or more, which it's crazy to me, but they're not going to go anywhere else because they don't feel like somebody else would
- 36:56care or take as good of care of them as I
- 37:00I will and insist on my management team taking as good of care and just infusing that same philosophy into them so they get it and they do.
- 37:13So it can be done.
- 37:15I think this is a great point to talk about because what I see for you is this trajectory of investing in people.
- 37:22It keeps going up, right?
- 37:23You keep investing in people more and more.
- 37:26oh And so with the book, with your coaching, that is just further investment into people.
- 37:32So I have a question about what's on your back burner.
- 37:36oh You talk about dormant desire.
- 37:39What does that mean and how can it be reactivated?
- 37:43So dormant desire is that thing that you know you want to do, you have wanted to do, you may have always wanted to do it.
- 37:52It's the idea, it's that sort of the urge to create something or produce something.
- 38:00And you just know it's there.
- 38:02And for whatever reason that you may not be able to explain right now in the moment, you've either never taken action on it, you've left it on that back burner for...
- 38:12years or decades maybe, or maybe you've even tried it before, or maybe you're currently trying to do it, but you just can't get off the ground.
- 38:21So it's like that unrealized mission, project, goal that you know you've always had, and for whatever reason, you haven't made it manifest yet.
- 38:34That's the back burner.
- 38:36That's what's on your back burner.
- 38:37What I believe ultimately is
- 38:40It's either A, you're calling, or it's a stepping stone to your calling and you're not gonna know you're calling until you sort of start pursuing whatever comes to mind and
- 38:53realize that it's leading you somewhere to a deeper truth about something else you want that you may not be uh either know to admit or willing to admit that you want it.
- 39:05A lot of times what I do find with people is
- 39:10We downplay our goals to avoid disappointment or what we think of maybe, you know, outright failure.
- 39:20And so we go for something way more practical, uh doable.
- 39:25And then sometimes we don't even pursue that, right?
- 39:28But at least if you pursue something that's more practical and doesn't mean as much to us.
- 39:35It's so much easier to bail on it or you don't care if it fails because it's just not that meaningful to you.
- 39:42So I think this, like you're alluding to it, and ask a secret question, I think you're about to answer it.
- 39:49So I want to ask you the secret question.
- 39:52So what is the secret to quitting doom scrolling, all the distractions, and actually getting on with your meaningful goals and ambitions?
- 40:01Okay, these days doom scrolling is probably almost everyone's main problem that they don't realize because it seems like you're just doing it when you have some time here, some
- 40:12downtime.
- 40:13It's like, I've worked hard.
- 40:14I deserve to treat myself to some screen time, right?
- 40:19Well, as you're scrolling, you're getting a little dopamine hit.
- 40:25It's something you're interested in or something you're fascinated by.
- 40:28So you're scrolling your phone.
- 40:29And you're getting it.
- 40:30And look, the people who run the algorithms, they know this and they're designing it to give you that dopamine hit.
- 40:37But you know, if you were smoking a vape, right, every time at the same rate that you're doom scrolling, it probably wouldn't, you wouldn't feel like you're making healthy
- 40:51choices.
- 40:51And if anybody saw you doing it, they'd say, Doug, you know, why are you vaping constantly?
- 40:57I think doom scrolling,
- 40:59is really no different than just a mild drug addiction.
- 41:03And so you're sedating yourself.
- 41:05And look, I'm not saying that I don't play with my phone and look at things on my phone, but I have realized that I'm subtly sedating myself.
- 41:16And what's happening is it's lulling me into a sense of comfort.
- 41:20And then I no longer have the urge or I've wiped out that urge to...
- 41:26get my satisfaction by actually taking action and creating something and doing things that I enjoy more.
- 41:34But I've kind of sabotaged myself with this little, you know, morphine drip.
- 41:41So, you know, I'd say I have my biggest uh turnarounds when I'll go like on a news diet.
- 41:49I'll call it a news diet and...
- 41:51Thank you.
- 41:52make a commitment, you know, I'm not going to read the news for 30 days.
- 41:55And some people say, Albert, how do you know what's going on?
- 41:58said, you know, it's interesting when you don't read the news.
- 42:01Still people, people want to tell you about what's going on.
- 42:06So you'll hear it through other people, you know, and I live in Louisiana.
- 42:10People say, well, what if a hurricane is coming and you know, you, you know, we get three days notice for a hurricane.
- 42:16said, believe me, when a hurricane is in the Gulf of Mexico, you can tell something's going on.
- 42:22So I never worry about being out of the loop.
- 42:25Yeah, sounds like fasting to me.
- 42:27You know, it's mentioned many times in the Bible about fasting.
- 42:30oh The analogy I think of is back in the, I don't know, maybe in the 70s and beforehand, everybody smoked, right?
- 42:38Everybody smoked cigarettes on the planes everywhere.
- 42:42Now everybody, it's become accepted that everybody's just in their phones, right?
- 42:47When they're engaged with other people with, and even though it's not healthy, we...
- 42:53we have learned to it's a societal norm.
- 42:56Yeah, now if you tell yourself like, is not harmless, you and you see it through the same lens I'm talking about is you're getting an IV drip of sedation.
- 43:09You know, it's true.
- 43:10You are.
- 43:12And then it just, I think it takes you out of the game.
- 43:15Yeah, yeah, so true.
- 43:18uh So what would you say is the biggest barrier to success for most people?
- 43:25Okay, so this gets to the real heart of my book, right?
- 43:27So I tease you with the what's on your back burner, you know, how to use this dormant desire to relight your fire.
- 43:36Here's the secret.
- 43:38The thing that you really want to do, the reason you don't take action.
- 43:42If I ask you, well, why haven't you done this?
- 43:45You're going to give me what I call damn good reasons.
- 43:48You're going to give me some plausible excuses.
- 43:50You're going to say, I don't have the time, you know, even though we just
- 43:53found two hours a day, you're probably doomed, right?
- 43:56So you waste in 14 hours a week minimum.
- 43:59You're going to tell me you don't have the resources, you don't have the down payment yet saved up for such.
- 44:04And, you know, it's not that any of those things aren't true.
- 44:07There is truth to it.
- 44:10It's a good reason to you.
- 44:11And most people will buy it.
- 44:13And you can let yourself off the hook there.
- 44:15Now, here's the secret that my book reveals that no one thinks about because this is the problem you don't know you have.
- 44:23The reason you really don't do it is because there's a part of yourself that doesn't want it to happen.
- 44:31Okay.
- 44:32Now you may say, well, why would that be?
- 44:35The reason that this other part of you doesn't want it to happen is because you inadvertently learned a lesson somewhere earlier in life that you vowed in that moment.
- 44:48never to make the same mistake.
- 44:50So when anything that comes up in the future that looks like this, tastes like this, smells like this, avoid it.
- 44:57Now you don't realize you made that decision, but at that moment you learn this lesson, it just becomes embedded in your subconscious programming.
- 45:09whoever you were at that moment, that's really the character that said, hey, Doug, we're never gonna let you make this mistake again.
- 45:17Okay.
- 45:17And so on one hand, consciously you're saying, this is something I want to do.
- 45:22This is something I want to pursue, but unbeknownst to you and in a voice you can't even hear, there's an inner battle going on with this other version, usually a younger version
- 45:34of yourself that's saying, Hey Doug, or Hey Albert.
- 45:38Yeah, no, we probably shouldn't do this because it's going to lead to wasting money or remember that didn't turn out great the last time or.
- 45:47You know, this is going to be uncomfortable and you know, we don't like pain or, you know, this could lead to disappointment and you're not a big fan of disappointment, you know.
- 45:56Now again, you're not hearing this conversation at full volume.
- 46:01It's just going on under the hood.
- 46:04And so you're going to think to your grave that the reason you didn't do it were those plausible reasons that.
- 46:13any normal person would agree with you.
- 46:14Yeah, that's probably a good idea.
- 46:16Maybe you should wait till you have more money or the right time or right education or you put the finishing piece, then do it.
- 46:22Yeah, you're right.
- 46:23And so all the people around you will support you in your decision to not pursue it.
- 46:30And so you can get away with it.
- 46:32uh But...
- 46:35If you dig in a little bit, and it's right there under the surface.
- 46:39So I'm not talking about something you have to go to two years of counseling for.
- 46:45And Doug, you said you cracked open my book and you're into the first handful of chapters.
- 46:49When you get to the first exercise, if you do the first exercise, which takes 15 minutes, uh you'll know exactly where and when that voice is coming from and what it's really
- 47:02thinking.
- 47:03Yeah, go ahead.
- 47:06Now, you did that exercise with me at a conference that I presented recently, Okay, when you read your list, were you surprised what was on there?
- 47:17Oh yeah, very surprised.
- 47:20I was very surprised.
- 47:21had you realized this is what you were really thinking?
- 47:25No.
- 47:26No.
- 47:27No, okay.
- 47:28Now that you're awakened to it, right?
- 47:30So the first step is awakening to, oh, I didn't realize it.
- 47:35look, just so we can catch the listeners up instead of talking, you know, theoretical, I'm gonna just give you a simple example.
- 47:42When I first decided I wanted to, you know, do public speaking, I joined Toastmasters.
- 47:47And I joined and I entered all the con twice a year, they had speaking contests.
- 47:53And so I would do...
- 47:55well enough, you know, without really a lot of training to if you got first or second in your club, you went on to the next level and you would compete like in the area and then
- 48:05you went on and if as long as you finished first or second, you could go on to the district finals.
- 48:12And usually it would be, uh you know, like six places available for that.
- 48:18So I would make it to the district finals and I would usually end up in fifth or sixth place.
- 48:23Now I was okay with that.
- 48:24I was new.
- 48:26I had managed to make it all the way to the finals.
- 48:28It's first year I'm doing it.
- 48:30But year after year, I was always in the bottom group, you know?
- 48:35And I didn't understand.
- 48:36thought I was getting better.
- 48:37And so I did something similar to this awakening exercise.
- 48:43And what I realized was this, and this is the unbelievable part.
- 48:46This is why people are a little bit skeptical.
- 48:49What it turned out to be is this.
- 48:51I would never rehearse my speeches.
- 48:54Thank m
- 48:55I went in and gave it, other than the fact that maybe I gave that same speech a couple of times a week or so before, it was, it was really not practiced or rehearsed.
- 49:03I'm just up there winging it.
- 49:06And winging it was good enough to get me as far as it got me, but it didn't get me into the top tier of the winning bracket.
- 49:14And so I traced it back to when I was a young boy, my brother and I, my parents were divorced.
- 49:21I think I told you that part.
- 49:23My parents were divorced.
- 49:24My dad would pick us up on Saturday mornings.
- 49:26We would spend the weekend with him and we would get all dressed up and we were excited he was coming because, you know, maybe it was divorced father guilt, but he would always take
- 49:35us to do something fun.
- 49:36You know, it was going to be go to the theme park or, you know, go jump on trampolines or go to the park.
- 49:42It was going to be a good time.
- 49:44And as we got maybe a little older, eight, 10 years old, there were those Saturday mornings and we're all
- 49:51ramped up and ready to go, it's 10 a.m.
- 49:54and the phone doesn't ring.
- 49:56And then 11 comes around and it still doesn't ring.
- 49:59And then noon, by this point, my brother and I knew he wasn't coming.
- 50:02He would eventually call, maybe noon or later.
- 50:05My mom would answer and he would give the same excuse, you know, that his car broke down.
- 50:11My brother and I would just look at each other.
- 50:13He was two years younger than me and we would just shake our heads.
- 50:16It was like really disappointing.
- 50:19You the whole weekend was ruined.
- 50:21Now, the lesson that I inadvertently learned from that, right, at 10 years old was avoid disappointment at all costs because it hurts.
- 50:33Now, I'm not thinking that as a 50-something-year-old man in Toastmasters, but what I was doing unknowingly was if I didn't rehearse my speech or practice and I was fifth place,
- 50:48I could tell myself, well, this is not disappointing.
- 50:51You I know the people who beat me, they probably rehearsed 200 times and spent hours and I didn't do all that and I was still good enough to get to fifth place.
- 51:02And so what I was doing was putting a salve on my wound there, you know, and really just, I wasn't disappointed because I knew I didn't do my best.
- 51:12And so once I was awakened,
- 51:15that this is what I was doing.
- 51:16And look, let me tell you another tragedy when I really discovered that I'd been avoiding disappointment essentially my entire life.
- 51:24I briefly started thinking about all the opportunities that I must have missed and not taken advantage of.
- 51:31And it all came from a 10 year old version of myself.
- 51:35And it wasn't like anybody was torturing me or beating me or really.
- 51:42being mean to me in that level, was really just my dad letting me down of not picking us up on when we were expected.
- 51:50Which probably, maybe when I put it in that term, maybe that is, I'm sure a lot of people have had parents who have disappointed them.
- 51:59But you can't, in other words, if I wouldn't have uncovered the fact that there was a part of me that didn't wanna be disappointed and was gonna find a way.
- 52:09to have me avoid disappointment, right?
- 52:11If I didn't discover this, I would have just gone on the same way.
- 52:16But once I realized that, you the next year, I really practiced like I had never done before.
- 52:22And I was totally committed.
- 52:25And I'll tell you, when I made it to the district finals and I did speak that day, I had never had the experience where I really felt like the audience was just in the palm of my
- 52:36hand, just.
- 52:37every step of the story.
- 52:39It was so powerful.
- 52:40It felt so good.
- 52:41It was such an interchange between speaker and audience that I had never truly felt before.
- 52:47When I walked off the stage, I had no idea what place I was going to be, but I knew for the first time in a seven-year Toastmasters career, right, that was the first time that I
- 52:59knew I left every ounce of myself on the field.
- 53:03And it turned out I got second place, which is the highest I had ever
- 53:07And the other guy went on to the first place, went on to the world's championship of public speaking in Las Vegas that year.
- 53:14And I wasn't even disappointed at all that I didn't get that opportunity because for that one time when I really was willing to just face the disappointment, was the, you know, it
- 53:28was the best feeling in the world and one I'll cherish and remember every, you forever.
- 53:33And now when that little voice comes up,
- 53:36I can tell if it's getting in my way.
- 53:38It's like, yeah, I know what this is.
- 53:40This is that part of myself that's oh worried about disappointment.
- 53:45And so what I do in the book is I just offer two more simple steps to be able to do the cheat like you did and find out what you're really thinking.
- 53:55And then the second step is to identify this personality trait, this character, like in that case, you know,
- 54:03the character within me that wants to avoid disappointment.
- 54:06And then I show you how to resolve it permanently so you never have to worry about it again.
- 54:10And when people do this, their trajectory just, I've just witnessed it so many times.
- 54:17can't, I'm never, it never ceases to just blow my mind that when people can resolve this inner hidden conflict that they don't realize is there, it's a game changer like no other.
- 54:30It's more important than
- 54:32having more discipline or time management or going and taking a management class.
- 54:38It's like, this is the number one thing holding anyone back to whatever they're doing.
- 54:44And they just don't know it's there.
- 54:46They don't know it's happening.
- 54:48And so my mission now is to turn people on that, hey, this is what's going on, whether you believe it or not.
- 54:55It's an inner conflict that has to be revealed.
- 54:58Otherwise, you're never going to make the progress you're expecting.
- 55:02Never, it's just not gonna happen because that inner character is such a protective force.
- 55:09It knows you so well.
- 55:11It knows just how to tell you the right things to get you to quit or not try at all.
- 55:17To avoid whatever it is it wants you to avoid.
- 55:21It could be criticism.
- 55:22um It can even be success sometimes.
- 55:26You know, one of the most popular things I see pop up on people's list of when they,
- 55:31flip the sheet over and do that front burner exercise.
- 55:35A lot of people say, oh, I'm afraid I won't manage all the money I'm gonna make well.
- 55:40Bye.
- 55:42I see that all the time.
- 55:43Now think about that, right?
- 55:44Here's somebody saying, I would rather not try and go for it because deep down, I don't think I'm good with money.
- 55:51And essentially I might destroy myself or the pain of losing it will be worse than never having it in the first place.
- 56:00I mean, that's a tragedy.
- 56:03It's very common, super common.
- 56:06I'll hear that in every workshop.
- 56:08Somebody's going to tell me that.
- 56:10Yeah, I feel like oftentimes it's something they don't acknowledge right off the bat, but it's something, it's one of those deep things that's kind of being brought out of them,
- 56:19right?
- 56:19I equate what you do, like a lot of those other things you mentioned, like time management, sort of stuff, it's kind of like treating the symptoms without getting to the
- 56:28root cause of what's really keeping you from where you need to be.
- 56:32So you really go at that root cause, and once they solve that problem, the other things come a lot more easily.
- 56:39Yeah, and look, you know, here's what I say, because going back to being lazy, right?
- 56:43I want the most bang for the least amount of effort.
- 56:46I call it return on effort, right?
- 56:48I want the highest return on my effort.
- 56:51That's really, if I could encapsulate, you know, redefine laziness in a positive way, I'd say that's what it is.
- 56:57It's ROE, right?
- 56:59How can I do the least and get the most for that?
- 57:03And what I've found in my life, right, is all of the other things is just trying to be a
- 57:08a better or super version of myself is impossible is what I've found.
- 57:15I'm not saying you can't enhance a little bit, but I am who I am.
- 57:18When I look back through my success journals of 30 years ago, I can see I was always still struggling with the same exact things.
- 57:26How could I have really not changed in 30 years?
- 57:29But when I've had my breakthroughs, it was always resolving an inner conflict.
- 57:38And what happens when you do that is you take this personality that's inside and it's you, it's you as a, you know, typically as a younger version of yourself, right?
- 57:48When you take a part of yourself that's actively working against you in order to keep you safe and you're able to reason and make a deal with this aspect of yourself that you know
- 58:04what?
- 58:04It wants the same thing you want.
- 58:06Thank you.
- 58:08Your inner critic wants to be successful, right?
- 58:11But your inner critic just has a different way about going there.
- 58:14Its methodology is to don't take any chances and don't screw up.
- 58:19And, you know, while that may be fine for, you know, a 16 year old version of yourself, when you're, you know, 30, 40 or 50, that's not going to play.
- 58:28So you have to go back and you have to, and that's the third phase of the book is dialoguing with your inner character to say, okay, hey, look, what do you really want?
- 58:37And what you find is they do want what you want, but their way of getting it is inefficient or doesn't work anymore.
- 58:44And so you turn this former adversary into an ally when you make a deal and say, look, we both want this or you willing to work with me and I'll be a little cautious if that's what
- 58:55you need.
- 58:56And it sounds a little schizophrenic to make a deal with yourself, but it's very healing.
- 59:03It's very, you feel more integrated, you feel more whole.
- 59:07And then you're no longer working against yourself.
- 59:10And that's why you have the biggest breakthrough is because you're, you've always heard the thing, you're your own worst enemy.
- 59:18This is the breaking it down how you're your own worst enemy.
- 59:24And so if you can take your own worst enemy, which is yourself, and you become your own best ally, can you see?
- 59:33Not only do you have this extra power going in the right direction, but no one's trying to pull you down.
- 59:39It's like a, a 4X, a 10X game changer.
- 59:45Uh, I want to make a side note real quick.
- 59:48Remember you talked about, you know, me helping to develop and uplift people.
- 59:54you know, who is my current property manager?
- 59:56He was a client that was
- 59:59interested in real estate, he wanted to buy rental property, he came to me for coaching.
- 1:00:03And a couple of years in, he had, you know, five of his own rental properties.
- 1:00:07By the way, that was his 10 year goals when I met him.
- 1:00:10I said, this is way too slow.
- 1:00:13I said, no one would I know of you, you could do this quick.
- 1:00:1618 months later, he had hit his 10 year goals.
- 1:00:20And so he wanted to go out on his own and quit his job.
- 1:00:23worked for the local park service, park recreation.
- 1:00:27And
- 1:00:29I had mentioned that I needed a new manager.
- 1:00:31He asked if he was qualified for the position.
- 1:00:35So all of the mentoring I did with this guy, not only did he pay me as a client, but then when the time was right, he became really a dream property manager.
- 1:00:47And now he takes care of everything.
- 1:00:48And I'll tell you, it just takes such a load off.
- 1:00:51And again, a payback that came later.
- 1:00:55And I wasn't even thinking of
- 1:00:58Yeah, that's awesome.
- 1:01:00I want to ask you, there's not really a good segue here, but I want to make sure we get this fill in the blank question in.
- 1:01:06oh A Christian entrepreneur who wants to stay on fire must never forget blank.
- 1:01:16I would say if you're not enjoying, you know, every day, maybe not every day, but if you're not enjoying yourself and what you're doing, it doesn't necessarily mean you need
- 1:01:26to change what you're doing, but it definitely means the way you're doing it, you're out of alignment with God, with Spirit, with Jesus.
- 1:01:34And it's a sign that you need to change something.
- 1:01:37Now, you can do it my way and keep being hard-headed and stay in that sort of misery for...
- 1:01:45longer than you need to.
- 1:01:46But if you recognize that as a sign that when you're aligned with the Holy Spirit and your purpose, you're not going to feel like that.
- 1:01:54It's going to be energizing.
- 1:01:56You're going to want to do it.
- 1:01:57You're going to enjoy doing it.
- 1:01:58You're going to look forward to it.
- 1:02:00And again, I don't mean that you have to change careers because if you think about it, when I had my turnaround, right, I was in the salon business and in the rental property
- 1:02:10business.
- 1:02:11I didn't get out of those.
- 1:02:14I looked at those from a new perspective that allowed me to pour my mission, my purpose, my passion into the same things I was doing, but in a more aligned way with spirit.
- 1:02:28And that was what changed, not my job title, it's the way I was doing.
- 1:02:34Yeah, that's powerful.
- 1:02:36think there's so much to in that just to look at what you're already doing and how could you do it more in alignment and it's going to uh make a radical difference.
- 1:02:48So oh I want to the audience, this book, it's not just a book.
- 1:02:52eh It's a breakthrough possibly for you.
- 1:02:55ah And the thing I love about it is it's a workbook, right?
- 1:02:59You get a lot of books that are full of just filler, right?
- 1:03:02Ra-Ra.
- 1:03:03uh You know, it's kind of stuff.
- 1:03:05That's not Albert's book.
- 1:03:07Albert's book is, uh I always talk about leading with value.
- 1:03:11And that's what Albert is doing here.
- 1:03:12Albert uh gives you the work that you need to do in order to get to the result in that book.
- 1:03:19So uh definitely pick up this book.
- 1:03:21And I'm sure once you go through the book, you're going to want to find out how you can work with Albert even more.
- 1:03:26So tell people where they can go to find out more about you, Albert.
- 1:03:31Well, thanks for saying that about that, Doug.
- 1:03:33I do appreciate it.
- 1:03:34And look, you've heard my philosophy.
- 1:03:36You know, the reason that book is so small is because I wanted it to be the least amount of work for you to get the biggest bang for the buck.
- 1:03:44So I will say there are just three exercises in there.
- 1:03:47And if you actually do them, you're going to get the breakthrough without a doubt.
- 1:03:52you can only make it to the first exercise, then you're going to have some, you're going to know something about yourself that you never knew before.
- 1:04:00So you can either go buy it on Amazon or if you go to backburnerbook.com, backburnerbook.com, it'll take you either to an Amazon link, you can get all the
- 1:04:11worksheets there for free without signing in or being a member or anything.
- 1:04:15And then there's also a link on there if you wanna have a, uh up for a coaching call with me, a free coaching call and I'd be happy to talk with you one-on-one and see if it makes
- 1:04:25any sense to work privately with someone.
- 1:04:29Nice.
- 1:04:29So we'll put those links below.
- 1:04:32The link to the book on Amazon, link to the book if you want to go get it straight from Albert.
- 1:04:38uh I recommend doing it that way.
- 1:04:40So you're not giving Amazon some of that money that Albert should get.
- 1:04:45I don't mind, but they do their part.
- 1:04:48And then the second thing I will say about that is once you get the book and you go through it, make sure to go on wherever you bought it from, go to Amazon and leave a
- 1:04:56review uh of the book because oh that really helps other people know more about uh Albert and what he's doing, what's on the back burner.
- 1:05:06Albert, I ask one last question of every entrepreneur that comes on the show because I always feel like Albert probably wanted to say this thing and I never asked him the
- 1:05:14question or he just never was able to say it.
- 1:05:17m
- 1:05:18What parting words of wisdom do you have for the audience?
- 1:05:24I would say this, know, most people are in what uh they call your shadow career.
- 1:05:33It kind of looks and feels similar to what you really want to do.
- 1:05:38But if you fail at it, it's not devastating.
- 1:05:42And so you avoid your true calling and your true career to avoid risking the chance that you don't have what it takes.
- 1:05:52And so I just want to reassure people, if whatever is on your back burner is your calling, you wouldn't have that calling if you didn't have what it takes.
- 1:06:04And you don't have to become a better version of yourself to pull it off.
- 1:06:08Honestly, you just have to do this inner work that's going to make all the difference in the
- 1:06:15Yeah.
- 1:06:15Well, thank you for our thank you for that, Albert.
- 1:06:18Yeah, that's my promise.
- 1:06:19That is truth right there, Doug.
- 1:06:23All right, thank you again, Albert.
- 1:06:25And until next time, entrepreneurs, keep moving forward.
- 1:06:29Thanks for having me, Doug.
- 1:06:30It was great.
- 1:06:35All right.