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Patriots Unfiltered 11/20: Bengals Preview, Locker Room/Team Report, Week 12 League Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium. It's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce,
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  Speaker 1: it's Matt and the booth, and we're talking Patriots against
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals. Big news broke yesterday. Joe Burrow full participant
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  Speaker 1: in practice, Joe Flacco limited. So what the hell does
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  Speaker 1: it all mean? We're going to talk about it. Does
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  Speaker 1: it change anything in your mind in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the outcome of the game. That's all on the table,
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  Speaker 1: And of course we'll do our picks when we reveal
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  Speaker 1: what we think the Patriots are going to do. So
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  Speaker 1: what's up, guys, were monitoring, We're monitoring. Wenned when you
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  Speaker 1: heard this.
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  Speaker 2: No, because friend of the program. Trags gave me the.
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  Speaker 6: Whole beat, the little heads up tell how Evan comes
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  Speaker 6: in and he's like, guys, don't tell anybody, but I
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  Speaker 6: just heard from since he did the Burrough's gonna practice.
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  Speaker 6: And then like outside you hear Dan Roach like talking about, Hey,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I just heard from Mike Petragley and he said.
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  Speaker 2: He texted me and Barth in our group chat that
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  Speaker 2: we have with Trags. And the next thing I know,
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  Speaker 2: Dan Roach has the same intel.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess the.
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  Speaker 2: Trags is exact words were that the sentiment had changed
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  Speaker 2: in Cincinnati yesterday about Joe Burrow. They all kind of
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  Speaker 2: arrived for their availability and everything, and all of a
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  Speaker 2: sudden there was rumblings that Joe Burrow was closer than
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  Speaker 2: maybe they had dot to playing, and so everybody kind
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  Speaker 2: of went into a tailspin from there.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get right into it. If he plays, does
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  Speaker 1: that change anything for you?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I mean I think he's a I mean I
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  Speaker 6: think it increases the chance that the game it might
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  Speaker 6: be competitive and more of a shootout, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Because Joe Flacco hasn't been able to move the well
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  Speaker 1: he has. But I think Joe Burrow is still better
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  Speaker 1: than him. He's hurt. Now he should have banged up,
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  Speaker 1: but when.
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  Speaker 3: He played with that injury, they only scored twelve points.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the Patriots would still be
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  Speaker 6: the favorites to win the game, and I'd still like
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  Speaker 6: their chances, but I mean I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's give a little juice to the game.
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  Speaker 6: You don't get to see Joe Burrow get out there.
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  Speaker 6: I just I think the question that and I should
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  Speaker 6: say too, I saw a report I think it was
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  Speaker 6: Ian rap sheet, rapaport, rapshet, you know, said Zach Taylor
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  Speaker 6: talked this morning, and he still seemed a little bit on.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't know, like he's like, we're still kind of
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  Speaker 6: feeling it out. Maybe he's playing games, maybe not. But
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  Speaker 6: they do have a Thursday game right after, so is he,
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  Speaker 6: you know, ready to go Sunday?
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  Speaker 3: And said it, I think that's how I read it,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, I was like, you guys, just
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  Speaker 3: sort of seeing this stuff unfold, just it. It makes
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  Speaker 3: sense to me that they're gonna play him, and I
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  Speaker 3: think Zach Taylor just wants to make sure he makes
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  Speaker 3: it through and he's gonna be you know, before he
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  Speaker 3: says no, he's starting.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he'll want to make sure he gets the
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  Speaker 1: week and then.
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  Speaker 3: Then you got to activate him. And you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think I think he'll play. But you know, in terms
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  Speaker 3: of your question, Fred, it doesn't change my pick, and
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  Speaker 3: it probably doesn't even change my score. But I would
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  Speaker 3: say that I didn't give Cincinnati any chance to win
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  Speaker 3: the game, and I would give him a puncher's chance
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  Speaker 3: depending on how effective Borrow can be. I find it
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  Speaker 3: hard to believe that he would be really ready to
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  Speaker 3: play and without his binkie in chase. I give him
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  Speaker 3: a puncher's chance just because it's Joe Burrow and he's
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  Speaker 3: maniacally competitive and all that and good. Yeah, no, he's
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  Speaker 3: obviously very good. But here's the scenario that I was
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  Speaker 3: talking about yesterday with a couple of guys. What if
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  Speaker 3: it unfolds and it's a typical Patriots game and the
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  Speaker 3: Bengals get the ball and Joe Borrow is back and
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  Speaker 3: they go right down and make it seven nothing. Don't
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  Speaker 3: anythink like the Bengals themselves, they're not going to be saying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what the Patriots do every week.
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  Speaker 3: To Patriots would be like Joey's back a shot a
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  Speaker 3: lot of Maybe they get a little juice from that,
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  Speaker 3: a little lift and they have a puncher's chance. I
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  Speaker 3: look the other side of the ball, and I see
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  Speaker 3: this should be a game that the Patriots score a
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  Speaker 3: lot of.
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  Speaker 1: I go after him. Yeah, we talked about on his
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  Speaker 1: foot happens, He's.
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  Speaker 3: Going to probably have a steel plate in his thing,
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  Speaker 3: so that won't matter.
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  Speaker 2: You think so, I would think we talked about this
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  Speaker 2: on our preview that will be posted eventually today. But
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals are are sort of on the ropes right now,
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  Speaker 2: Like they don't have Jamar Chase is suspended, Trey Henderson's
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  Speaker 2: not playing there three and seven. The vibe is not
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  Speaker 2: great right now in Cincinnati, but that vibe changes when
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  Speaker 2: you get Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 3: That's my punch, doubt.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you've got two games left with Baltimore, So like,
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  Speaker 1: if you can get on that roll and beat them twice.
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  Speaker 2: Practice, it's an outside chance, but it's a chance they controlled.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they control it because if they can win
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  Speaker 3: all the they win the rest of their games, they're
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  Speaker 3: going to win the division more than likely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's.
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  Speaker 2: Still three games back in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think ten and seven will win the division.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, I just I don't think it changes a
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  Speaker 2: ton about how you defend them, really because their offense
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  Speaker 2: has kind of been the same, like all that don't
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of like what they do. Let's Flacco at
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  Speaker 1: full health is kind of the same guy as Burrow.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not as good, but it's the same styles
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  Speaker 1: like once a mobile quarterback and.
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  Speaker 2: The other one is well, I think is definitely I
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  Speaker 2: mean exactly, well you don't know that for a fact,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a much.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be running with a steel plate.
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  Speaker 3: And well that's I mean, that's the toll.
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  Speaker 2: Limit somehow, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know anybody is
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  Speaker 2: more mobile than Joe Flacco. So, like the difference between
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  Speaker 2: having Joe Flacco standing there as a statue and Joe
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  Speaker 2: Burrow being able to move even seventy five percent as
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  Speaker 2: much as he normally can is a big difference. But
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  Speaker 2: in terms of you know, they're still not going to
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  Speaker 2: have Chase, it's still going to just be t Higgins.
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  Speaker 2: Like none of the like splits suggest that they totally
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  Speaker 2: revamped their offense for Joe Flacco, Like they're still in
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  Speaker 2: the shotgun just as much as they were with Burrow,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like it just it doesn't really change a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot, I don't think in terms of how you're
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  Speaker 2: going to game plan the supporting cast and the and
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  Speaker 2: the weapons and the system and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest X factor though, is Flacco is
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  Speaker 2: terrible under pressure. He can't move. So if Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 2: is just at least a little bit more mobile and
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  Speaker 2: he's a significantly better quarterback under pressure, then those two
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  Speaker 2: things can really change.
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  Speaker 3: Let me out to me, it would be similar to
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  Speaker 3: the difference between just in terms of mobility, Brady and
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  Speaker 3: bled Cell. I don't think he the one of them
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  Speaker 3: will be considered to be a mobile quarterback. But who
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  Speaker 3: would you rather have a lot of pressure on Brady
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  Speaker 3: and his ability to move around and navigate.
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  Speaker 1: That Brady Burrow? Yeah? Or yeah? So that's good that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Burrow is more athletic than Brady.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, but I.
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  Speaker 3: Would call him this state.
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  Speaker 2: Sure still well, I don't know we know that if
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  Speaker 2: we know that yet, but I hear what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: If Fred's wright and he can't move, right, he still
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  Speaker 3: is a guy who's moved around the pocket his whole career.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if he's if he's a hundred, if he's
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  Speaker 2: truly one hundred percent healthy, though he can move like
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  Speaker 2: he's Burrow, I wouldn't call him a dual threat quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a extension play extension quarterback, your true run. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think there's any chance he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just think the interesting part about it, too, from
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  Speaker 2: a Bengals angle, is they have two games in five
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  Speaker 2: days because they play on Thanksgiving, So is that really
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  Speaker 2: the best time to bring back your superstar quarterback is
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  Speaker 2: to have him played this game on Sunday and then
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  Speaker 2: turn around and play again on.
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  Speaker 1: I heard, and you know, maybe our football team's listening,
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  Speaker 1: but they thought this is the game because they're not
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  Speaker 1: worried about the Patriots pass rush. Oh put that where
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  Speaker 1: he was going, but that a bulletin board. Put that
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  Speaker 1: on your bulletin board. Patriots, Well, this is the game.
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  Speaker 1: They want to bring them back, less pressure.
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  Speaker 2: But when you come off like a serious injury like
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  Speaker 2: that since week two and then you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: play him this week, and then not play him next week. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if he's back, he's back. So I just wonder if
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  Speaker 2: the Thursday night game for them ends up factoring into
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  Speaker 2: this because he's he's not gonna have a quick turn.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Like if Flacco can't play, I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: might not have much of a choice.
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  Speaker 3: If they lose to the Patriots. What's the difference in Thanksgiving? Right,
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  Speaker 3: they have to win. They have to win them all.
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  Speaker 3: Nine and eight isn't going.
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  Speaker 1: To They're pushing their chips to the middle of the table.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's a risk.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think blos injury is is like the illitating
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  Speaker 2: to him that he's not going to play. He might
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  Speaker 2: play have to play hurt, but I think he would
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  Speaker 2: still continue to play.
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  Speaker 6: I like the culture salvage angle of you know, like
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  Speaker 6: we just need to get something positive going right now.
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  Speaker 1: Like I think that's an interesting approach.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're Zach Taylor, I mean you're probably coaching
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  Speaker 3: for your.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for Zach Taylor, it's obvious, which is why I
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  Speaker 2: think it's like, doesn't that decision have to come above
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  Speaker 2: Zach Taylor, because like Zach Taylor is coaching for his job,
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  Speaker 2: so he's gonna say yeah, right, I mean, I would
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  Speaker 2: job this is one of those that the President's involved,
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  Speaker 2: the GMS involved, ownership might be involved.
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  Speaker 3: And it's kind of a guess a little little buzz though.
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  Speaker 1: And when the PA when the game, it'll help the
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  Speaker 1: argument about the schedule. All of a sudden, this game
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  Speaker 1: wasn't as easy because Joe Burrow was.
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  Speaker 6: Playing right right, knocked off another's superstar quarterback, No problem, Hey.
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  Speaker 1: Beat Joe beat Joe Burrow for the second time in Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean they were do I remember last time he
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  Speaker 3: was here.
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  Speaker 6: They were fairly competitive. I remember, like a Marcus Jones interception.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was like.
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  Speaker 3: The games that the score actually should have won the game.
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  Speaker 3: Remandre fumbled inside the ten, inside the two minute warning.
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  Speaker 1: The encyclopedia, if.
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  Speaker 3: You look at the go back and if you did
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  Speaker 3: the evan of the you know, the sort of forensic
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  Speaker 3: uh you know, autopsy of this game, the Bengals should
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  Speaker 3: have won it.
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  Speaker 1: Buy about five touchdowns, right, so the pick six.
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  Speaker 2: Was Yeah, in the second half, Marcus Jones just jumped
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  Speaker 2: to a hitch and return it for a touchdown. And
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  Speaker 2: then yeah, remondros Steve, they were driving with a chance
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  Speaker 2: to take the lead.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to take the lead within the two minute warning.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was fifty five seconds left. I just
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  Speaker 2: saw the clip, yes, last night, somebody posted it, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he fumbled at like the ten yard.
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  Speaker 3: Line, but the Bengals had something like two hundred more
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  Speaker 3: yards of offense and all kinds of squandered.
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  Speaker 2: There was nobody he like the that was just it
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  Speaker 2: was Christmas, oh right, I think it is christmasas Eve
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  Speaker 2: eve Day. Yeah, and it was just it was freezing.
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  Speaker 1: Block those games out. I'm hoping Burrow plays. Let's go,
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  Speaker 1: let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of do you too. There's a big part
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  Speaker 3: of me that just would love to have an easy win.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know easy, but you know.
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  Speaker 6: And we have an easy It's going to be an
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  Speaker 6: easy win either way because the Patriots are going to score.
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  Speaker 6: And the Patriots should score at least thirty five points
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  Speaker 6: in this game, probably more now. And I just don't
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  Speaker 6: see the Bengals without all those guys being able to
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  Speaker 6: keep up.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: In our preview video, Evan was, you know, talking about
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  Speaker 6: just how they struggle on defense to really get lined
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  Speaker 6: up and just to you know, and more means like
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  Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels is going to be ready to cook and
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  Speaker 6: just get his guys into position to to be successful
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  Speaker 6: and to hopefully have some easy plays.
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  Speaker 2: There's like one in every three players there's a guy
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  Speaker 2: with his hands up be looking around like who had him?
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  Speaker 3: You know, I watch the whole game, just like the
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  Speaker 3: clips on on red Zone, but it at least three
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  Speaker 3: or four times they showed a third and sixteen or
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  Speaker 3: third and twelve or third and twenty one, and a
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  Speaker 3: little like Mason Rudolf flipping the flat to somebody who
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  Speaker 3: gets the first down like it was amazing. A couple
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  Speaker 3: one of them was to the Washington Yes, which they
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  Speaker 3: think like, maybe he'll break some tackles. Oh no, he
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  Speaker 3: didn't have to break tackles until he got the first down.
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  Speaker 3: Then he broke tackles and ended up making like twenty
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  Speaker 3: more yards throwing people out. Well, Like, I couldn't believe
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  Speaker 3: how many times they threw the ball ten twelve yards
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  Speaker 3: short of the sticks and just easily converted first downs.
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  Speaker 3: It happened three or four times in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: This is bad defense. Yeah, this is a bad, bad defense.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine the Jets scored thirty nine thirty nine.
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  Speaker 1: So in terms of the Patriots health the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they scored twenty.
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  Speaker 1: We got our first participation report of the week yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: How are we looking.
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  Speaker 3: Overlooking Mikey get ready to come back?
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  Speaker 1: It was all about Joe Barry. I mentioned that in
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  Speaker 1: the preview.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, yea, wellmondre Remandre is still limited.
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  Speaker 6: So but but Booty and Ellis you know, to the
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  Speaker 6: big names that that have been out.
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  Speaker 1: You're surprised that Booty is full participation. It must have
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  Speaker 1: been a minor hamstring, right, was a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of.
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  Speaker 2: Grade one you know, said I was going to say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he kind of told the whole world.
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  Speaker 1: Follows. Sounded like they could have played last week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursday night game. I think Booty might have had
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  Speaker 2: a chance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah good, good, good week to get them back though.
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  Speaker 6: I think you know everything you guys said about the
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  Speaker 6: Bengals defense and Booty, a guy pushed the ball down
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  Speaker 6: the field, makes some big plays, you know, get a lead,
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  Speaker 6: try to control the temple of the game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, there's no doubt their offense has been
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  Speaker 2: better with Booty on the field. And you know, their
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  Speaker 2: their efficiency e p A is almost double with booty
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  Speaker 2: on the field in the passing game compared to when
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't play. And then also, you know, a Stevenson.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're all excited about what we've seen from
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  Speaker 2: Trevon Henderson, but he's been playing eighty two percent of
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  Speaker 2: the snaps since Stevenson went out with that injury three
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago. It's just not sustainable, you know, not for
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  Speaker 2: the back of his size and like his skill set.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't want to see that really with any
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  Speaker 2: running back, you don't want them playing eighty two percent
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  Speaker 2: of the snaps. So getting Stevenson back, and I know
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  Speaker 2: that everyone's going to be up in arms if he
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  Speaker 2: plays more than Henderson, but you know it's still going
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: to be, you know, hopefully a little bit of a
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: committee where you have maybe sixty forty or fifty five
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: forty five or Something's.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Just fantasy football.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So, like, do people not understand that you need
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: two running backs to like make it work and be
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: a really good team. I mean, if you're going with
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: one running back down the stretch and into the playoffs,
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: it's gonna be tough.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: It's asking a lot. I mean, what this Pinals team
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: is doing.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: Stephen Jackson like bringing him in because you're desperate just
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: to have a little bit of depth.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think fans when they have opinions
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: at the at the front end, qualify themselves. I'm a
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: better Yeah, you know, no, it's it's it's so true.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, I like, we're I don't do fantasy football.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I don't bet.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I just watched the Patriots and the NFL, and you know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I don't. I I just I wish people could grasp that.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: But you know, look, I respect people are thinking about money,
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: thinking about fantasy.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: You're coming down to your playoffs, and they they're interested
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: in that. But to me, if it'd be different if
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: it was a different kind of caliber player. You know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams that well, not a lot,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: but there's a handful of guys around the league. You know, Philly,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: you know last year won by leaning on one guy
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: for the most part. You know, but that's rare. Like
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: most teams don't have Christian McCaffrey or say Kwan Barkley
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: in this in this kind of a scenario, isn't it
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: better to sort of you know, like ride the hot hand,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: you know, go with matchups, have different personnel groupings and
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: package is. I think it opens up the playbook a
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: little bit more to you to have different options.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: I'm excited to get Stevenson back, I mean just seeing
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: what they've done to add that back into the equation.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: And you know, I know his fumbles have been an issue.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: But at the same time, I just think this team
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: will be at its best if they get a fully
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: functional Reminder.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I keep bringing up Hooper, but I also think teams
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: better if he's on the field too.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, so he was limited and he was he
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: was out there yesterday, Red Jersey, Red Jersey.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the next checkpoint.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Probably working through.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: So not not crazy to think he could play right Like,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's just probably.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Now he does football activities, and if he goes through
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the football activities and he doesn't have any symptoms, then
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: he goes on to full contact. And then if he
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: does that with no symptoms and he's.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Cleared, there we go.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: So today will be the the speed periods where they'll
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: hit a little bit. So I'll find that out.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: All right. Weather's still going to be mild. Yeah, lest
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I checked. It looks like a great day.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks pretty warm for this time of year.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, where you're going to eat in the jungle.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be there until about nine thirty
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: at night. I'm not traveling with the team. Oh I
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: have to go commercial. Oh oh the things they got
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to do on Saturday.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, this is good to know. Things we all would
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: have been looking for.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: You line chili for Freddy?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: No, is that the thing to do?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And since, yeah, it's a mistake, Yeah, garbage.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean I wouldn't go that far working Sunday
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: on tomatoes.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I would not do that the day before I had
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: to work a football game. That would be oh we did.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: It would be a bad It's still my nightmare every
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: time I run into the press box bathroom during the game.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: That like having to saddle up on that stall, like
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: that would be one of the darkest places I can ever.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Imagine being during during a football game.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: The only thing, the only thing more overrated than Skyline
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Chili is Parente Brothers in Pittsburgh. I like.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Good sandwich place.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, overrated. I like bread. It's just like I went
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: there and like it's like this is what everyone's making
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a big deal about.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not a big skyline chili guy. But it's pretty
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: far down the list of things, you know. But wings
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: in Buffalo?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Is there anything Wings in Buffalo are all that's not
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: over it? Not over it?
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: Anything else that went since Eta for food wise that
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: they're popular or common or no.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: No, just chili over the border to Kentucky and good
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: barbecue very popular.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: We have a good barbecue there once, fred I was
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: with you. I don't remember the place.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: There's this one place that's a place in Kentucky. Yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: it was like that home style restaurant that everyone goes to.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: Bag.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Remember there's like a chicken place too.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I forget what it's like fried chicken. Yeah, I forget
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: what it's called. But that one's also popular.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Ye All right, back to Farry. There's Burrows zipping it
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: around on our TV right now. Back to football. No,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great, terrible of really a lot
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of good matchups this weekend. A lot I thought last
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: week was great. Yeah, No, a lot of intriguing good matchups.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I just love that Indie India case.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I love that game.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: I just love the whole storyline of it, of Indy,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: everything that they represent right now, Daniel Jones everything he
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: represents being one of the top teams in the AFC
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: Kansas City feeling like their backs are against the wall
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: and you need a win. But at home, so you
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: get a you know, an indie team that I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: people are still feeling out. How are they away from
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: a dome? How are they Maybe I don't know what
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: the weather's gonna be like in Kansas City, but maybe
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: I mean it's obviously not inside at least, But you know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: what's that team gonna look like? Is that a team
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: that we talk about going to Denver going on the
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: road in the playoffs? Is Indy put together some wins
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: outside to say, hey, you know, I mean Jonathan Taylor
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: should travel theoretically, but you know does does Daniel Jones?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see? Yeah, I like that match up, all right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: A five to five pass five hundred is the hotline
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address. We
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: might as well jump right into it, right Sure, you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: guys are going to have to go to the locker
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: room at some point.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go one fifteen and we have we also
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: have the co pilot question of the week. Fred Let's
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: I won't forget about that one coming out.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Of the break this week. Can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: we can't wait.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I get a chance to shine.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I think you get this. I think you get this
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: one getting a chance to shine. You know, Paul was
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: out yesterday. Got a lot of emails that with Paul out,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Deuce you had a chance to talk and people were
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: really excited about Like, I guess it's not funny. Yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that's that's nice because you know, Deuce and I had
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to do, you know, the show like you and I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: have to do sometimes. Yeah, even Evan was gone, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: so Deuce, you know, the spotlight was on you Fred,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know we have something back and forth. It was
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it was it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Hot in North Carolina. Somebody called in and enjoyed our
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: our banter, so thank you. But yeah, I thought, you know,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I never never feel like I don't get a chance.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: To take some interactions that weren't were less complimentary, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I save them.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: Oh really, Paul's got his little his little parilo minions
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not listening to it because you're not on
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: to not get one person, not that seemingly even noticed.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I just want to know when you go on with
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Felger and mass when doing an hour of Felger versus
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: the schedule, is that like entertaining It was so funny,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you know, does he know that you can talk about
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: something else that isn't just picking.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: That people are just gonna suck college. Yeah, I agree
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: with you that they've had the schedule.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: But.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That that that's the show. The show is four hours
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: of Felger yelling about the schedule.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Which I'll get into it too with him. Like his
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: whole thing is like you you you have an opportunity
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: right now. You're you're a contender, you're nine and two,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: you're you know, at the top of the conference. You know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you should expect to do this. You should expec you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: like you've had things break your way. Yeah, next year,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: the schedule is going to be harder, you know, in theory.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: So that's why you really have to take advantage of this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a lost opportunity at the trade
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: that well, so I'm thinking to myself, well, if you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: think they're so good right now and you're lamenting not
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: augmenting the roster, why are you afraid of the schedule?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Next year? Do you think they was as good as
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: anybody now? So why next year?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: If they have to play good teams, you're going to
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: be not not as confident.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Every time I get into the car and I turned
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that show on, they're talking about the schedule. Well, it's automatic.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe how many calls they get it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's a little spark plug for them.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, but it's the issue just how they're you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: being praised, because like, what do you want them to do?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: The schedule is the schedule they took care of take
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: care of business.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Now you knew that this was it going.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: That's what Mike says, like you are at the top
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: of the conference.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Who cares? Well, I don't know why you're arguing it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: I know it up well he does. You know he's
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: playing both sides because he knows, but he knows it true.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: My whole thing with the schedule is it wouldn't be
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: easy if we weren't good. It's easy because we're good.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, and it's just statistically easy.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But if we were making it look the team we
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: were last year, this wouldn't be easy. We wouldn't be
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: nine to two.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Sure, but easy but in year one to be able
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: to play like this.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: We said it all summer that this team, they don't
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: have all the pieces that they want right now. There
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: are some placeholders this year, and yes, the schedule gets
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: tougher next year, but they're.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Trying to be better.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: And now you get a year where next year, yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: may confidence through the rules.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I think the team will be better. I don't know
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: if the record will be better, but the roster will
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: be better.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: I agree with that it should be I mean, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think we got into some interesting discussion.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I said it to Evan of Mike. I wish you
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: guys were here.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: We brought it up.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: It was just what's your approach to the wide receiver
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: position this offseason because all these guys come back.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: And I get, like everyone you need a number one
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: all that stuff, but like, but.
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: Who do you who are you ready to replace? Who
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: are you ready to get rid of these current guys?
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: Who are you ready to say we don't really need
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Keshan Bootim.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Or we need And I get that. I don't you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I don' I'm not saying you're wrong. I just think
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: it's an interesting kind of thought experiment of what's your
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: approach do you do you say, all right, we got
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to throw caution to the.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Win and we have to you know, this whole that
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: whole unit's coming back. Do we push Kyle Williams down
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: a little bit? Don't we don't like what he did?
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: We you know, do we think pop Douglas?
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: We could?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: You know, all these guys have had moments. So it's
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: hard right now on a win streak to say, well,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: they've got to upgrade this player.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: It's just it's an interesting kind of personnel building to
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: know what the options are, right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I think that that and I felt this way at
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the deadline, like if you're not going to hit an
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: absolute home run acquisition, it's got to be if it's
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, Like, obviously you're going to take Justin Jefferson,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you know, AJ Brown, even though he's had a bad
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: year like that, I would entertain. You know, when you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: start talking about them making moves for guys that are
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: maybe just a little bit better than what you have,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I think then that might not be worth it. Yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: but if it's somebody of that top ten receiver, top
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: fifteen receiver in the league caliber, than I think you
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: have to do.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: If I can do better than those guys, I'm interested
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: in it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But I don't want to. I don't want I
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: don't want to make a lateral move.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just to make a move.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But if I feel like there's a guy that's available
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: in the draft that's better than any of those guys
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: that I have, I'm interested in that.
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not telling you that's where I would go. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: think they have other needs and stuff. But I'm just
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: saying it's hard to just say I wouldn't I wouldn't
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: move on from any of these guys. What if I
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: thought that that could get better guys.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: One other thing I would say, though, in regards to
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: the team next year and the schedule getting harder, is
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: that I mean, I do think that there's a bit
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: of a clock ticking on the defensive side of the
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: ball with some of the older veterans that they brought in, So,
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: you know, the Spallanes, the Landrys, the Carlton Davis's. You know,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: can those guys play at a high level until they're
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: able to draft.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Or find replacements for those important positions?
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: You know, And those guys are all thirty ish thirty plus,
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: so that that would be an area where you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: next year they get some more injuries, some guys are
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: getting a little older, the defense maybe takes a step back.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: So I just I do think that there's a clock ticking,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: especially on the defensive side of the ball. They've had
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: a lot of youth on the offensive side of the ball.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Right tackle not so much like that's a you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: long term spot, but you know, defensively, you can go
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: pretty much right down the line, cornerback, there's going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: be a safety spot open, whether they want to bring
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Hawkins back or try to upgrade him whatever. But you know,
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: I do think that there are there are some moves
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: that that they're going to have to be wary of.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: I expect that to be a big part of this draft.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Like middle, like spine of the defense, defensive line, linebacker, safety.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I think those three spots are all spots that I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: would probably expect them to draft at some point. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they're not all going to be top one hundred picks,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: not necessarily, but I don't really think we're you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: dous and I at least they're an agreement. Like edge
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: rusher I think is probably the number one need, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: an outside pass pressure. You have bar More and Williams
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: inside for a little while, So can you hit somebody
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: on the outside that can really you know, get double
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: digged sacks?
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: And especially if chase On doesn't you know, they don't
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: want Chase On back, Chase On doesn't come back, whatever reason.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Like you know, that's that's an area too, for sure.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the phones. Francisco's in North Carolina.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Francisco's great, what's going on, guys?
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: Going on?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Sad?
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: So I got to catch up on a couple of
• 28:21
  Speaker 10: days working topics and be able to call in. But
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: so as far as the conversation about the Chiefs making
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: the playoffs, I would just love it they didn't. And
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: it's not necessarily for the fact that whether I'm scared.
• 28:35
  Speaker 11: Of them or not, it's just I feel how they used.
• 28:38
  Speaker 10: To fill about our dynasty.
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: I want to see them fail every chance I can.
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: And then as far as that, like so I didn't
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: enjoy last week's game Fellas Furs Night.
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: I understand we want we covered, but like.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: I'm sitting there with my brother, I'm heeded.
• 28:51
  Speaker 11: But it's because I keep seeing the same mistakes from defense.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: Where it goes from letting them score on the first drive,
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: or where.
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: It goes from it's a whatever in seven or whatever
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: and nine and then they're giving them the first down
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: for free by line in twelve ten hours off.
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: For no reason, or I'm gonna tek for no reason.
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: You know, you know I'm not the expert, but but
• 29:11
  Speaker 11: you know, I just gotta beare my gri out on
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: that and then, uh, it's not really a ball prediction.
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: Drake May has his first three hundred yard game four
• 29:19
  Speaker 11: touchdowns than you guys.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Four touchdowns, three hundred yard game. I'll take it all right.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I like it, Thanks, Francisco. Yeah, I work it down. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I feel like you went a little bit more towards like.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a smart I hear him on the defense.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I necessarily have the exact same
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: complaints as he does, but there are some some things
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: coverage wise with the defense that still irk me a
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: little bit the way they do things. So we'll see
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: if that changes. And you know, especially the matchup stuff
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like if you're gonna play man coverage on third down,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: like you can't have your safeties covering slot receivers and
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: things like that, So you'd like to see them be
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit better about that, but you know they're
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: other than I don't know if like I get the
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: off coverage annoys people, I don't really see that happening
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: on third down. It's mostly first and second down, and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: or they're just trying not to give up chunks. But
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that there's the big picture methods
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: to some of the madness is working. But you wonder
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: when you go up a level and competition in the playoffs,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: if these things continue to happen, if they're going to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: be able to hit those buttons more than justin Fields
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and Ady Mitchell Hood.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Sam's in North Carolina. He's Sam.
• 30:35
  Speaker 12: Hey, Sam, Hey, y'all got to make sure y'all get
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: that line to the line, to the D line because
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: Fred had me ready to run through a wall like
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: a bunch of sector has got to come. I hope
• 30:45
  Speaker 12: Joe Burrow played because in the grand theme of things,
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: I mean, yes, the schedule has been easy, but from
• 30:52
  Speaker 12: having a bad team so many years, like looking at
• 30:55
  Speaker 12: silver Lining being down seven, oh, are teams not going
• 30:58
  Speaker 12: to be scared if they the team scores first. You
• 31:01
  Speaker 12: know what I'm saying, because we've did it all year, yep,
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: and these the Buffalo and the Baltimore game coming up
• 31:09
  Speaker 12: like that, that's what's going to get us ready for
• 31:11
  Speaker 12: the playoffs because we all got to remember at the
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: beginning of the season, everybody was like, we just want
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: to see growth from Drake May. We just want the
• 31:19
  Speaker 12: team to be competitive. I know that was my goal
• 31:21
  Speaker 12: and they checked that exceedingly. My boy, Evan, I'm with you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: The gold post can be moved, but it's got to
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: be in an hope, Like we can't expect them to
• 31:30
  Speaker 12: go win the Super Bowl. Like I've been here in
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: some saying say, you know, but like I said, what
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: do you guys think about that? Like, does that actually
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: mean something for the team that they've been down seven
• 31:42
  Speaker 12: ohs so they know how to play like that, Like
• 31:44
  Speaker 12: so it won't be a surprise if I mean, does
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: that mean anything?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean coming, you know, giving up Listen, you'd
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: rather not give up that first touchdown, but they aren't.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: This team last year would would welt on you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: doing that, and they don't. It doesn't it doesn't really
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: mean you know, you'd rather not do it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think to concern with the opening drive
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: touchdowns is and is necessarily that they're giving up the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: points early in the game. It's that it might be
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: indicative of them getting scripted and like their their game
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: plan coming into the game versus the opponent's game plans
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: coming into the game, and the opponent's game plan has
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: been better than their, at least on the first drive. Yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: and maybe it's possime, maybe they're adjusting after the first
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: drive and that they just kind of want to let
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the game declare. But when you again, like when you
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: do that against the Jets, it's one thing when you
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: do that in a playoff game against a really good
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: quarterback and a good play caller, and you know you're
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: playing the Colts and it's Shane Steichen on the other side.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: He's just going to keep hitting the buttons that are working.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And some of these other teams don't have the ability
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to consistently string it together. They get through their first
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: ten or fifteen plays that are scripted, and then they
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: kind of run out of plays, whereas some of these
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: better coaches and better offenses, they're not going to run
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: out of plays. So I think that's more of the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: concern less so the fact that they're down seven to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: nothing early on in the game, I.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Think, and I'd have to go back and look at
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: every game to make sure, but I think in the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: eight game winning streak, I think they've had the lead
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: at the half of every one of them. I don't
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: believe they've been trailing in the second half since Pittsburghsburgh maybe,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: so I don't really think seven nothing is adversity like down, say,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: twenty seven to seventeen in the fourth quarter, that's adversity.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: They've been trailing by two scores in a game twice
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: this season. They lost both games. That's the only time
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: that they've been trailing by two scores all year, which
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: is a testament to how well they've played. But to
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Evan's point spot, justin fields seven points, he's not getting
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: many more than that, you know, Dylan Gabriel, cam Ward,
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: you know, keep naming all the guys they played. Those
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: guys are not capable of scoring many more points than
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: they scored. You do it in the playoffs. Those guys
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: will keep scoring, so then you'll see how they respond
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: to Dark University.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Spi and Fresno, says Burrow, kind of looks like a
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Simpson's character with those bulging eyes, and Drake sounds like
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: bomb Boomhauer from King of the Hill. King of the
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Hill characters are tougher than Simpsons characters. So Patriots win
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: thirty five twenty four. Well there you go. I like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that reasoning edge Patriots. I like that reasoning. I never
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: watched King of the Hill. Do you watch that?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know the King of the Hill reference, but
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Burrow definitely looks like a like a Simpsons I just
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: not Kevin McAllister, you know, it's it's Almo.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: He looks a lot like that. Oh yeah, but I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: love Joe Burry. He had a Star Wars bedroom. Burrow
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is Coley Cochland should have looked like when he grew up.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what's his name? Colly Klachland Cloughland.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Is that the Chicken place in Sincy Clockland?
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's it? Totally forgot. Let's go to Christian in LA.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: What's up Christian?
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: Hey you guys, happy Thursday?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Sears? Hi?
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: My man Michael over in Texas. I just want to
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: say Michael is an oldie, but goodie. But I only
• 35:16
  Speaker 13: know two things that come from Texas, and I'm sure
• 35:18
  Speaker 13: you don't have any any horns, so there's anything wrong with.
• 35:21
  Speaker 12: It, but just stick to the stick to the kids.
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: Don't come after me.
• 35:25
  Speaker 13: I got too much to too many skills weapons. Okay,
• 35:30
  Speaker 13: now onto football. I'm really interested to see how our
• 35:34
  Speaker 13: defense has performed against the run this week with Chase Brown,
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: who I consider a pretty good running back, and no
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: Milton Williams. Also with Joe Burrow coming back to whatever
• 35:45
  Speaker 13: degree he can play, he's not gonna be very mobile,
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: so the way to get to him would be up
• 35:49
  Speaker 13: the middle, and again without no Willings. I want to
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: see how we geme of what player steps up to
• 35:54
  Speaker 13: try to get to Joe Burrow. And from what I've
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: seen on ESP they have us picking thirtieth in the
• 36:01
  Speaker 13: in the draft and taking a kid named Chris Bell
• 36:03
  Speaker 13: out of Louis Louisville six.
• 36:08
  Speaker 14: Thank you, guys.
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: I'm sitting here with Beverley sus.
• 36:10
  Speaker 13: She says, high and we will take it up the air, all.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Right, Beverly Sushi.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: So he says, uh, well, I like the I like
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: the Chase Brown thing that we also are they going
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to run the ball?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Brought that up.
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: It's a passing game, you know what I mean. That's
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: like the little dump off to Chase Brown.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That's, you know, thank you.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know if that's sustainable, if that's gonna, you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: be enough, but it might be enough to keep them
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: in a little bit, keep them moving the ball.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I just that's where I would look if I were them.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: You know, I think they're gonna Patriots are gonna have
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: a plan for t Higgins for sure, and you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: but Yoshivas is where i'd look. And then I'd look
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: at the tight ends and the running back in the
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: passing game, the underneath stuff. Try to pick them apart
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: in the early down zone. And then you know, when
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: you get to third down and you got to make
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: a play against man coverage, then.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe look to see look to Yoshiva's They don't run
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: the ball.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It's really bizarre because they run it well when they
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: do run it, they just don't run it. And I
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: think a big reason why is is Chase Brown is
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: is not the biggest back, and he's really the only
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: running back they have, so I don't think that they
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: really want to run him into the ground. But they
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: throw the ball seventy percent of the time, which you
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: don't really see very often that's a lot. Yeah, and
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: so they they're thirty second in the league in rush attempts,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: they're thirty second in the league and run rate, you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: overall run rate, so they don't run it at all,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: which is kind of bizarre.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Now, how much do you think that that's due to
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: their games and the way they unfold because of how
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: bad they are defensively?
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: They think that into what track me every game? You know,
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: they can't afford to declare early. They can't afford to
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: establish the run because it doesn't work. So I thought
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: of that. So now the mindset might not change. But
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: I did look at their run splits in one score games,
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: you know, when the game was still within one score,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: and it's the same. But maybe they're still going into
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: the game thinking we got to throw, you know, like
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: so it might not.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Change the mindset. The script hasn't mattered too much. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that's true. Like their shotgun rate, their pass rate, their
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: three receiver rate, all of it is league high, league high,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: league high. Like they are a shotgun spread, chuck the
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: ball down the field offense. That's that's what they do.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Ye Niles is in Maryland and hello Alex, thanks for
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: joining what's up Niles Niles, Niles, Crane Niles Niless. Niles
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: was not there. Let's go to Harvey in Maine. Hey, Harvey, Hello, Hello,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Hey hey.
• 38:37
  Speaker 14: First time caller, longtime Patriots dam Nice. Got a couple
• 38:40
  Speaker 14: couple of questions for you, all things being equal, going
• 38:44
  Speaker 14: into the draft. If they're quality people available at multiple positions,
• 38:49
  Speaker 14: what position do you think the Pictures will prioritize with
• 38:54
  Speaker 14: their first pick? And second question, do you see any
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: paths to Epton? Shoot them get some steps wide receiver
• 39:01
  Speaker 14: this year?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, So first question, multiple good players at multiple positions,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: which position do they choose?
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: I think edge was what Evan and I said. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: mean that's you know, one of the premium positions. They
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: don't have a young player at so that you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: it seems like a good draft class for that position.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But I think right tackle, right tackle?
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, I guess it depends on what Morgan mos just
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: you know, he's signed for two more years. I can't
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: imagine he's well, yeah, ready to retire. But I guess
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: you know that that to me will be eventually you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: need that they may be picking the third or fourth
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: round like a developmental guy that can they can work
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: with behind Moses. But edge rusher I think is going
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to be at the top of the list. And I
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: still think, like, you know a guy in the middle
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: of the field at either linebacker or safety that can
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: be a playmaker, you know, not just not just to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: plug you know, plug gap kind of linebacker, but can
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: you get a guy that can play in the passing
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: game and you know, cover people go sideline to sideline,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you know that sort of thing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: You guys would rather defense than offense.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: I mean not like I just I think you're in
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: a position now where I don't feel like you have
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: to take a position because you have you definitely don't
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: have and that's why I like the way. Yeah, however
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: that way, they're all the same. Yeah, you know you
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: have a stud edge rusher, safety corner, i'll tide receiver.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: And for what you usay yesterday about tight end position.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tight end I think is a is a sneaky one.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: You know, they're both getting up there, Henry and Hooper.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: But I also think you ideally would have maybe a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: little bit more of a dynamic, you know, tight end
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: in the passing game. Down the line. Here, the kid
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: from Oregon is awesome. I don't know if he's going
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: to go in the top twenty though, Sadik he's a
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: really good player. But yeah, so I don't know how
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: high he's going to go. My current draft Russia, you know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: because I love the receivers, so I always going to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: have m kayle Lemon from USC is a stud. But
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: another guy that I think might go higher than thirty two, Fred,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: So you know that we'll see where that falls. But
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you know there are guys like that in this draft.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Tight Ends a weird one. No like Sadz can go early,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the organ kid, but I think it's gonna be like
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: early and late. It's not going to be like a
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: lot of like Day two tight Ends necessarily. It's probably
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: going to be like him in the first round and
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: then maybe a lull at the position for a little while.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: But you just like to see them add somebody that's athletic,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you know, has some tools, someone that can.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Put about Chisholm. We'll get any run at wide receiver.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Injury need to be an injury they've already had.
• 41:34
  Speaker 15: And he hasn't really.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he had a couple of snaps in one
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of the games.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Right now, like a run package right now.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Kyle Willams is next man up, and you know so
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: it would take uh.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So what are you coming from, Alex?
• 41:46
  Speaker 15: Was that a community event with our boss, mister Kraft
• 41:50
  Speaker 15: Operation shower. So they have a.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Bunch of military families in who with either expecting moms
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: or they have newborns. So the foundation hold a good event.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: They give send them home with like awesome really expensive stuff.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You take any stuff.
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: Chest, you're gonna get a jump on it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Put it in your Hope chest.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: A little diaper Genie, what if.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That like, oh my god, diaper Genie.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: That just brought back a nightmare of.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: A nightmare sausage sausage of diapers, you know, like you
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: pull the thing out.
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: It's just.
• 42:26
  Speaker 15: Like Evan's a little closer to this than I am.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Too close. But that so to worry about it. Just
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: next year when this event, I was walking down the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: street with my wife and somebody had like a baby
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: car seat out, you know, just said we should take that,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: just like what do we need to give it to Connor?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: You know, put it in the whole chest, Hope chest.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, the amount of stuff you gotta buy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: I think it's worse when like you do that and
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: you buy it's so much more than you think you need,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: at least with the first one. That was our case
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: is like you have all these different baby contraptions, but
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, really there's just a handful you need and
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: there's always one thing that the baby loves and like
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: the four other things that you bought just in case,
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: kind of useless.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Won't do it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Thank god, sister, she took care of the grandkids. There
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: you go, Mom and dad, do you have grandkids?
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Didn't? Yeah, you're going to be the worst uncle ever.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I mean already is a dad, great uncle. Thank you.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: Daddy's got to watch filmg Nickel, go find your unless
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: you can do what Mac Collins does with I don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: want to.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Uncle gave me a hard drive Christmas.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I've given Patriots here and he's loved it every every time.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So by the way, I buy.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: My wife is starting to get requests from people at
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: work for rivalries.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Keeps everyone.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: It's also nice requests coming in. They completely underestimated the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: demand for this. It's crazy. I mean, I'm not just
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: talking about the league.
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: Are they going to.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna wear it again next year, So
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I would say yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 15: Well, they just have it as a staple in the
• 44:03
  Speaker 15: pro shop, like they kind of do the throwback.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I would hope so, but they should, you know, the
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: way they like money, Wait, Nike and all the it's
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: like everything's a year out. Yeah, yeah, so I would
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: hope so. Dan and Virginia and Michigan says hell to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the year Fred once again, the boss man called it right.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Premante Brothers in Pittsburgh is so overrated. My brother in
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: law lives in't pitt and he and his wife were
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: talking about how great Promante Brothers was. My wife and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: I was there and were woefully unimpressed. It was very
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: average sandwich that shouldn't rate a recommendation, let alone the
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: amount of hype it gets.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, I tend to agree.
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: What kind of sandwich isn't it's.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Like good, It's like Italian type of sandwiches. It's fine
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: they put.
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: We're too spoiled in the Northeast.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: With But like you've heard, I think it's one of
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: those things. It's like when you're someone's telling you about
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: a movie that you're the only one who hasn't seen,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: and then by the time you see it, no way
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: it can live up to the hype. That's what happened
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to this. It's a good sandwich.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: But Paul, what do we say about things You have
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: to put stuff on.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: Maybe it's not so good to kill the taste.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I agree with Fred, it was I we enjoyed it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: I liked it, but I mean I kind of felt
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: like In and Out Burger, like it was going to
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: change my life. It's a good burger.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that shot.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: That strikes a nerve with me, though, Paul, because like
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like your exact description is exactly how I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: try to preface In and Out to everybody that tries
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: it for the first time.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: It's not a life changing burger, all right. It's a
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: good fast burger.
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: It's great and it's a right value.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: But I like Shakeshack too, but it's not it's in
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: a different category like shake Shack, and five Guys are
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a step up in category like In and Out as
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: compared to like McDonald's, Wendy's Burger King Like it's a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: fast food burger.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: And that's the way I look at five Guys too.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: But I like five guys. I like five guys people matter.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: How many fries a lot of too many fries.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: That's why I.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Enjoyed my red.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Red Sunday. M five. Guys, those fries are legit.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: You're an air fire. Air fire is the only way
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: to like beat up fries. After It's the only way
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I left over.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: That's trying to make burger. I can't. I can't you
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: navigate the air fryer.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Cook things that you would be cooked.
• 46:26
  Speaker 16: Let's cook a cheeseburger air fer.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're all the stuff that you have to have
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: perfect for the air fryer to warn man.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I literally the like I even I can do it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I'm horrible. Like you just press a button and it
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: goes on.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: It's like a little picture of the thing that you
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: want to cook. Is this what you're going to cook?
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Push that button? It's not really that air.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's good. H I would say.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I was like a Christian, like you got it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Next time you call in and tell us about Bay
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Cities because I've been telling Paul about Base Cities and
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: Mynica for a while. They have the Godmother, which they're
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: just an old school Italian deli, great bread. It's just
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: one spot. I always have to get you out there.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Talking about good sandwich. But that's one that's not a chain. No, no, no,
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: that it's like it's like one of the that's legit.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is, I mean it's but.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I think that's what happened to Primanti's. Well, it wasn't
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: a chain, and then it expanded because it it was
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: so popular, so they started opening multiple restaurants, and then
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: it went down.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Jose is in Texas.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: Hey, Jose, Jose, Hey, sorry, boss man, Fred I have
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: a grievance with Christian in La.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, Texas versus California.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: Here we go just like the Texas. Hey, November, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: Christian is from Texas too. And also we've got water
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: so you can't you can't.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Really need on the So what's your grievance Texas?
• 47:59
  Speaker 12: Texas?
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: He hates Texas?
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, just defending the great state of Texas.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, did he say he hated Texas? Yeah, I mean yes,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: a little.
• 48:07
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: Christian was all over somebody who evidently must have made
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: fun of him yesterday.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah somebody. Yeah, somebody made fun of him. All right, Well, okay,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: chalk another one up for someone who hates Christian in La. Yeah,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I've heard you're not supposed to mess with Texas. Speaking
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of listener and listener crime, Travis in West Virginia does
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: he have a beef with Ford and Savannah. I don't.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I don't keep track of his beef. He calls him
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Ford Pinto. He says, a backwards hat wearing a bro
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: from Savannah wrote in last week and uncreatively told me
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: to shut the hell up. He also nonsensically accused me
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of lacking culture. Thus, I hereby challenge Ford Pinto and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Savannah to a culture off. And seriously, bro, take your
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: hat off. You're indoors. What's what's going around here?
• 48:53
  Speaker 15: I don't know, but we have to have Eric test
• 48:56
  Speaker 15: for them.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Right right?
• 48:58
  Speaker 15: Quiz them both?
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Nerx Calvino, Yeah, I do.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: I was like, I was with you, and I'm like,
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: I wanted to double check, but I think you're He's
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: the right man to.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Judge a culture off. Yeah. Starting with cork sniffing Joe
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and Michigan. I'm not a big believer in coincidence. Therefore,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: is there any logic to playing soft on defense in
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the opponent's first possession. The Patriots have allowed this too
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: often for it to be chance. Are they playing too
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: soft on the first possession. Too conservative, Maybe, I don't know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: just to see what they're doing, feel them out. Once
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: you figure it out, then I just don't know.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: I think they're getting a lot of schemed up stuff,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: which isn't it really about playing soft It's just kind
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: of a team knows what your rules are, and they're
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: going to have a handful of plays on the opening.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Script to exploit what they see. So I don't know.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: If it's last year we were easy to defend, this year
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: we're easy to script. That's probably a good, okay way
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: to put it.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not I guess that's another example of
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: how far back we are.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: We're back.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when anytime anybody ever did anything to
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: have a modicum of success against Belichick? It was by design?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Bills wanted that to happen. You know, that's we're bad. Yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: so we're too conservative. The New Orleans game, we were
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: critical of Zach Koorr for calling a blitz on the
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: first play of the game. Even you're susceptible to a
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: fifty yard completion with Kyle Dugger running toward the line
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: of skimmage and then a lobby beating him over the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: top now we're playing too conservative. Like to me, it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: what you were saying. The other teams are coming up
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: with with good scripts and they're not able to sustain
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: it because they're not good enough to sustain it. But
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of these teams, you know, you rep something
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: enough and you're ready to go, and you have some
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: success with it early in the game. I just think
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: it's one of those things.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I think it happens a lot, not just against us.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're the worst.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: It's odd because of the dichotomy between the drive and
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: for the most part, the rest of the game. Yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of teams that have success early in
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: games and they continue to have some success. The Patriots
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: have completely shut teams down for the most part in
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: the middle two quarters. And that's what I think makes
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: this a little bit different.
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: I wonder if some of it, too, is I remember
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: in the past talking about the Patriots offense trying to
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: use aggressive defenses like or other teams using their aggressiveness
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: against them, you know, and trying to use the Patriots
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: like a good example of the Steelers, like you know,
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: with Troy Paulamalu, those you know, they knew he's coming,
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: so let's bait him into it and try to take
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: advantage of The Patriots play a similar kind of attacking
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: defense now where I think you can get guys upfield,
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: you can get guys moving in a certain direction, and
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: then you know, try to.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: But I think they've done some different things. You know,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: we can plain that they were way too aggressive in
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: the opener. Now we're complaining that they're not aggressive enough,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: you know. So I think other teams have done a
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: good job of identifying what the Patriots are doing or
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: will do in a game, and they've had successful.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Even going back to like watching the old Bill defense.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Like I remember, like literally one of my personal rules
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: of watching the game was like don't react to the
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: first drive and then you know, so it happened to them.
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if it's quite as stand
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: out as it's been this year, where you know, to
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: Paul's point, it's like one, you know, six play drive
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: and they're in the end zone and then it's like
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: out out out.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I just think that is a common thing that teams,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: you know, especially good offensive coordinators. I think what makes
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: this different is how bad the offenses are in Tennessee,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: the Jets. You know, some of those teams New Orleans
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: have been really, really wretched offensively except for against you
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: in the first drive.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: And you know Bill's defenses in those games pitch shutouts
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: and the like. And that's when they, you know, got
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Kyle Van Noyd to stick his chest out from himself,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: the boogeyman. Well, you know, when they would beat the
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: crap out of these overwhelmed opponents.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: I'd say to another thing on this defense is they're
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: thirty second in red zone defense. So those Bill defenses too,
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: they might allow long drive, but they were getting stops
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: for field goals instead.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Now it's a bad red zone. You get to the twenty,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna score. It's Patriots defense, right, Jason writes
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in Savannah, I had a YouTube ad pop up when
• 53:11
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome everybody.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: We're excited to have Morgan Moses here fresh off the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: practice field.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: That you're a little bit of a long weekend there.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: How are things out there to day a little rusty
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: or you guys get back into it?
• 55:31
  Speaker 19: No, I mean, you know all, I'm like, we you know,
• 55:32
  Speaker 19: as professionals, man, we do whatever we can do to
• 55:34
  Speaker 19: stay in you know, stay in the in the game
• 55:35
  Speaker 19: and stay in the shaping. But obviously, you know, after
• 55:37
  Speaker 19: a couple of days off, it's always good to get
• 55:39
  Speaker 19: back on the field and just be with your brothers.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: So so I want to take you back.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: You were sitting here, I think it was February March
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: when we brought the free agents in.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Here was great. You know, vibes were high.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Then you've been around, You've been on teams where you
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: get there and the spring.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Vibes are high. The vibes are still high right now.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: How did it all come together for you guys with
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: so many new coaches, new players, rookies. I mean, it's
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: it's really come together. You guys that are on a
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: winning streak and it's going great.
• 56:01
  Speaker 19: I think, you know, you know, first of all, Man,
• 56:03
  Speaker 19: you know front office, and hats off to them and
• 56:05
  Speaker 19: on the decisions they made to get these rookies and
• 56:07
  Speaker 19: free agencies in a lot of details into the work
• 56:10
  Speaker 19: of the guys that have come in. And then obviously,
• 56:12
  Speaker 19: you know, I speak for the offensive side, having those
• 56:15
  Speaker 19: two rookies on the left side that's played amazing football.
• 56:17
  Speaker 19: And you know, I try not to tell them this
• 56:20
  Speaker 19: all the time, you know, but like I don't, I
• 56:21
  Speaker 19: don't really consider them rookies, man, just because how they
• 56:24
  Speaker 19: came in and then detailed the you know, detailed the
• 56:27
  Speaker 19: offense and even tray Pion Henderson Man. You know, like
• 56:30
  Speaker 19: a lot of people have been talking about like it's
• 56:31
  Speaker 19: taking them a while to get get going, but you
• 56:34
  Speaker 19: know it's hard in the NFL, you know, so just
• 56:36
  Speaker 19: some you know, kudos to those guys, you know, just
• 56:38
  Speaker 19: being patient and just going at a day day after
• 56:41
  Speaker 19: day and when that opportunity presents itself, this is what happens, man,
• 56:44
  Speaker 19: This is what happens.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool that it's you and Mike on the
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: right side, two Vets and then two rookies on the
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: on the left side. Because how have you been able
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to help Will and Jared and just kind of take
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: them under your wing.
• 56:57
  Speaker 19: I don't think it's necessarily helping them, And I think
• 56:59
  Speaker 19: we all just collectively just you know, just know each other,
• 57:03
  Speaker 19: you know obviously all we preach and being being able
• 57:05
  Speaker 19: to know each other on and off the field.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's helped us tremendously.
• 57:09
  Speaker 19: But I want to say, you know, the unsolved hero
• 57:11
  Speaker 19: of it all is probably Garrett Brad Burry Man. He's
• 57:14
  Speaker 19: done an amazing job just getting us all on the
• 57:16
  Speaker 19: same page, detailing. You know, he's played a long time
• 57:19
  Speaker 19: in this league as a center, and when you got
• 57:20
  Speaker 19: a guy as a center that can speak for all
• 57:22
  Speaker 19: five and help the quarterback get get on the same page,
• 57:26
  Speaker 19: I think that's the I think that's the engine.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the engine to the offense right there.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Those guys aren't the only rookies.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: And some of my favorite interactions when we're in the
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: locker room is watching you and Marcus Bryant and Caden
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: Wallace and you're just holding court and you know, teasing guys.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: But I think you've been a huge part of the
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: change this year. And we've been in the locker room
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: in the last few years.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: We know what it's like when things aren't going great,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: but you've been in the center of what feels like
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: just bringing everybody together. And does that help you as
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: an older player, have these young guys who you know
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: have aspirations to get to a level where you've gotten.
• 57:54
  Speaker 19: I think I think the biggest thing is, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 19: it's not easy what we do every day. You know,
• 57:57
  Speaker 19: the sacrifices that you make as a you know, as
• 57:59
  Speaker 19: a father, as a friend, as a family member, whatever
• 58:02
  Speaker 19: the case is, and to be able to come here
• 58:03
  Speaker 19: and play this this this game that we love. You know,
• 58:05
  Speaker 19: I tell those guys all the time, man, we play
• 58:07
  Speaker 19: king a keen games, you know, for a ransom, you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 19: a child's game for a king ransom. And you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 19: just being able to you know, take that little edge off,
• 58:15
  Speaker 19: you know when we're not on the field and just
• 58:16
  Speaker 19: being able to laugh and just share jokes and stuff
• 58:18
  Speaker 19: like that, that's very important. It goes into knowing your
• 58:21
  Speaker 19: brothers off the field because when you you know, it's
• 58:23
  Speaker 19: fourth and one and you got to have it, you know,
• 58:25
  Speaker 19: and Coach Raves is out there beating his chest like, hey,
• 58:28
  Speaker 19: let's go, guys. Like you know, when you know your
• 58:30
  Speaker 19: guys inside and out, you know, off the field and
• 58:32
  Speaker 19: on the field, you're able to give that extra push,
• 58:33
  Speaker 19: you know, because you guys are brothers. You're fighting for
• 58:36
  Speaker 19: the same thing, you want the same thing, and it's
• 58:38
  Speaker 19: just the betterment of the team.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Coach Frabele and I know he spends a
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: lot of time with you guys in the offensive line room.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: How rare has that been, you know for you just
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: as a guy that's had a lot of coaches. You know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: is it rare to have the head coach this hands
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: on with the offensive line.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's.
• 58:52
  Speaker 19: Uh, I think it's rare, But I think, you know,
• 58:55
  Speaker 19: just giving the take of his career as a as
• 58:57
  Speaker 19: a professional football player and as a coach, he's.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Done it on high level man.
• 59:02
  Speaker 19: Obviously, you know he's won super Bowls in this in
• 59:04
  Speaker 19: the same building that we work in every day. And
• 59:06
  Speaker 19: I think when you have that that type of example
• 59:09
  Speaker 19: every day that goes out there and you see your
• 59:11
  Speaker 19: coach taking taking hits on the chin and you know,
• 59:14
  Speaker 19: holding backs for players, man, that's that's the that's the
• 59:17
  Speaker 19: you know, the details and the techniques and the fundamentals
• 59:20
  Speaker 19: and everything that we preach as in taking your you know,
• 59:22
  Speaker 19: the identity with you on the road and in the
• 59:25
  Speaker 19: stadium at home games and things like that. I think
• 59:28
  Speaker 19: when you got a guy that's uh, that shows that
• 59:30
  Speaker 19: every day and makes it a lot easier to come
• 59:32
  Speaker 19: to work and have those same sets of set on mind.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: We hear a lot that the season starts after Thanksgiving.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: You've been a veteran, I'm sure you've heard that too.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: But what does the team need to do now as
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: we get into December and getting down to the you know,
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: the final road down to the playoffs.
• 59:45
  Speaker 19: You know, you know a lot of people talking about
• 59:47
  Speaker 19: the record and everything that we've done so far, and
• 59:48
  Speaker 19: you know, just being an older guy in the locker
• 59:50
  Speaker 19: room and telling the guys like, hey, we haven't done
• 59:52
  Speaker 19: anything yet, because none of this, man, none of this
• 59:54
  Speaker 19: matters unless you you play meaningful games in December.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where we're headed, you know.
• 59:58
  Speaker 19: And I think, you know, we're just telling you one
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 19: day at a time, and you know, the next next
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 19: step in Cincinnati, you know, getting that going going on
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 19: the road again, taking our identity with us, packing it
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 19: with us and going out there and getting that dub
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 19: out there and then go from there. You know, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 19: think you can't look too far ahead. You got to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 19: be where your feet are. And I think when you're
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 19: able to do that, the outcome is favorable for you.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: So I want to take you back to March for
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: a second. To be honest, if I told you you're
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: going to be nine and two through eleven weeks when
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: you signed here in March, would you believe me?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: How how cool has it been to see you know,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: that kind of growth?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Man, it's been it's been. It's been fun, man.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 19: Just just like you know, going back to the signings,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying, Just like going back to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 19: the signings and seeing the guys that, uh that that
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 19: that we've signed, and just the identity of the guys like,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 19: you know, I've known Milton for for a while, you know,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 19: being in that division and just seeing him from you know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 19: his rookie year to now what he's going to the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 19: table splaining Obviously Diggs. I've known Digs since high school,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 19: so you know, just seeing those guys coming to operate
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 19: the way they do, it's no I mean, obviously, you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 19: know you want to preach. You know, everybody has the
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 19: same goal in the beginning of the season is to
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 19: get to the you know, get to get into the race,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. But the details that we've
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 19: carried every day from our coaching staffs to the players,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 19: to the the the.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Weight room, the equipment room, you know, the training room.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody's all hands on.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 19: And I think when you're able to have a head
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 19: coach that that's able to give that praise to everybody
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 19: and not selfishly say hey, like it's just us doing it,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 19: but we're bringing everybody along with us.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a five is better than one, right,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: so we'll take it. I just got to falla what
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: did you know what Dixs?
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Did you guys play against each other?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Were your teammates? How did you actually took Diggs on
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: his official visit to UVA.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 19: So we've known each other for a while just being
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 19: in the DMV area and stuff like that.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think for him, man, just the
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: way he's.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 19: Came in here in this building and you know, all
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 19: the outside noise that you know, Kriema, Donna and all
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 19: these things has been said, he's probably been the guy
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 19: in the middle of it all that's just sacrificed a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 19: lot and just bringing guys along, right. And I think
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 19: when you have a guy like that, that that shows
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 19: that hey like this, that that might have been me
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 19: years ago, this is me now. You know, guys looked
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 19: at that in the locker room, is like, hey, like,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 19: I can play a long time in this league as
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 19: well at a high level.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: And what he brings to the table, man, that energy.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 19: You know, you've seen the you've seen the camera, you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 19: know before before we break.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: In in games and things like that. That energy.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 19: You know that that energy is contagious, man. So like
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 19: when you got guys running around like that Mac Collins too, bro, Like,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 19: you know, we got a great group of guys in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 19: the locker room, man, and hands down, and I.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Think the details of work that we put in is
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: really showing.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, glad you brought that up because we see it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: all the time with Diggs. But I do think people
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: realize you're right, Like he had a reputation of being
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of a diva and I could
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: not think that that's further from the truth based off
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: of what we've seen.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 19: One hundred percent. Man, And he's been he's been that rock.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 19: You know, he's been that rock for a lot of
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 19: guys in that locker room. Obviously Drake May you know,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 19: somebody he can count on and things like that. But uh,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 19: he's that guy that like, you know, he's that he's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 19: that receiver that you often find in the offensive line
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 19: a circle of offensive lineman joking think he's six seven,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 19: three hundred and thirty pounds himself. But like I said, man,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 19: that energy is contagious, and you know we just feed
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 19: off of it, man, you know, we feed off of it.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Well, hey Morgan, thank you so much for coming coming here,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: and good luck this weekend.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, man, thank you so much. Yep, and
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: now great moments in history.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 20: I just had to stop at that shell station down
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 20: next to Luciano's on one Fred. Yeah, filling up for gas.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 20: So I go in to pay the cashier, this woman
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 20: who's been there forever pump you know, now, I know
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 20: I like to go in and pay pre pay.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I like that. I just look it better.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 20: Oh come, don't get me on it, don't get wid on,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 20: just cap it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Stop it. Why do you like to the card the
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: credit card? It's just twenty bucks on or fill it up?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: No, I usually put in a certain amount.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Can you do that at the pump? I know you can.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 20: Jerry Seinfeld from the commercial that he did back in
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 20: the day when he's.
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  Speaker 1: Remember you did that? Oh oh, and he'd pull the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: credit card.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 20: Apparently you don't all the way in there, all the
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 20: way it sounds like you're walking fifteen miles to go
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 20: to you.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: I can't understand if you didn't have a credit card,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: all you had was cats, because then you got that.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I can't understand anyway, so I go into the store.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 20: It makes no sense anyway I go into the well,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 20: stop it and let me finish the story.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Why would you go in? Oh, it's just such a hassle.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: It's not a hassle.
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  Speaker 3: You're the laziest person I've.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Ever known that they did this at the I'm walking
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: ten steps to walk into the door so I can
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: pay for cash here and sell have this. It's it's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: for our convenience.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 20: Have you ever seen the signs on there that a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 20: lot of places say, pre go inside and pre pay
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 20: before you pump. A lot of places won't let you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 20: do that thing at the pump.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: You know, where the hell you in Arkansas? That's another
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: great moment from all right back here and patres on
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: fil today. Five to five past five hundred is the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Hotline podcast at patriots dot com. Is the email address
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I thought we'd address some uh stop what allow me
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: to do my Oh geez, yeah, we got the copilot.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Somebody stop me. I didn't know. I didn't.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Right before we started doing let you go, she said,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: all right, I'll start with the co pilot and well,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: what do you have.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: In your hands? What talked about? I was wondering why
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: it's so big.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 15: It's the case in there.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 6: All right, guys, it's time for the co pilot question
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: that we presented by a Microsoft copilot, where every day
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: is game day and where every decision is powered by
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  Speaker 6: insight innovation. Microsoft technology helps to make decisions faster, insight sharper,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: and strategy is more adaptive. So, guys, I'm trying to
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: tie a couple things here together the question. I think
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: Paul's going to get this one, but we're going to
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: tie a couple things together. How did the nineteen eighty
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: five Patriots clinch a playoff berth and what and I'm
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: gonna add an indemnment to addendum to this, and what
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: was the play that sealed it?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: It's a Robert Weathers touchdown run against the Cincinnati Bengals.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: And there it is, great call, Paul out in Foxburgh.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Quite quite a memorable game that people might have forgotten about.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: And if you listen to the upcoming Super Bowl sound
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: out to see nineteen eighty five you can learn more
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: about that and.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Be released in a couple of weeks. But Paul is right.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: Patriots went into Week sixteen at Miami a chance to
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: win the Division clinch a playoff birth they lost a heartbreaker,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: you know, last setime, thirty to twenty seven in overtime,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: not a regulation thing.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: It was they had.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: They were down by by fourteen, They scored a touchdown,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: they recovered a fumble for out in the kickoff tie.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Game grow again to Morgan, Marino down.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: The field and a field goal to win it. Speaking
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: to Morgan, Oh, look at this, and.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: We have to give this is play right here for
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: Robert Weathers. So just to set it up, I mean,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: the Patriots had a chance. They had a fourth and
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: one at the Cincinnati forty two. They were up by
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: four points two minutes left in the game. It's kind
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: of situational football, Paul, like you talk about sometimes you know,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: you could have kicked a field goal and gone up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: by seven, or you go for it on fourth and one,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: and and Robert Weathers had the forty two yard forty
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: two field goal and the forty two too far for
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: twenty Franklin at that sixty years. Yeah, he didn't wear shoes,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: goes barefoot, and that's in December, so it was probably
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: pretty cold. But uh yeah, you know, and also another
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: part of this game that's kind of famous is the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: fans stormed the field.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: It was a crazy atmosphere.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 6: And what happened they took the uprights out of the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: stadium and went down root and that what happened, and
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: then somebody unfortunately got electrocuted.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: But as part of my project that I'm doing on
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: eighty five, I talked to Patrick Sullivan, who was the GM,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: and he was kind of like, you know, I didn't
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: I didn't think the state police will let him like
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: get all the way down Route one, Like they're like
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: two miles away with the gold boasts when the guy
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 6: just people.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Goal post down the state highway. Not a big deal, No,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: it's probably frown upon.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: That now really a really you know, great moment, you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: know for the Patriots organization.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: There.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's you know that that Patriots team hadn't
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 6: won a playoff game in the NFL to that point.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: They had won one previous AFC championship.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: They didn't win the AFC.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 6: Championship that year, but a big game against the Bengals
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: came here and you know, a young Boomerosisin who a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: couple of years later would would represent the AFC in
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: First ever playoff win.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: In the in the NFL, in the NFL, technically in
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: the AFL. In sixty three they beat Buffalo in kind
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: of a playing game that they had to have, and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: then they went to San Diego and got smoked, and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: then I'm sorry.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Then they went to seventy six playoff win. They hadn't
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: had a playoff.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: Win they lost in seventy had a playoff win until
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: eighty five, seventy eight.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: And remember the field that they played in San Diego
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: back in the early sixties. Yeah, Balboa Stadium. That's right, right, hey, Baboa.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: So I only remember that because Andy Hart always called
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: it Rocky Bob. So now it's got actually work in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: some eighty five stuff, some Bengals stuff game.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: That's probably a Stanley Morgan.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: Stanley Morgan also has made the semifinals as one of
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: nine semifinalists on the veteran categories.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: So the cool thing was well overdue. Now.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: I wrote a little thing about him yesterday, and you know,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: there are a lot of Stanley Morgan fans out there,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: like just the random people on Twitter being like he's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: got to be in you know, I mean, I think
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: he still has the record for yards per reception with
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: over five hundred receptions, it's like nineteen yards. So he
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: was the proverbial deep threat. I had a great career
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: here for the Patriots, you know, covering my end of
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 6: the seventies in the eighties, so tying it all together
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: in the eighty five podcasts coming out soon, so stay
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: tuned for that.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: All right. So when we came out of the break,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I started talking about it. I shouldn't have, but now
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I'll finish. We had some little media on Patriots hate
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: going on in a couple instances. The first one was
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Cam Newton calling the Patriots fools gold and then Stephen A. Smith,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I guess on the same show, right, maybe a different day,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: calling our Drake May Drake Drake a liar for saying
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know what show Cam is on? What is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: going on? Why do they hate us?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 12: Yeah?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: Well, so Drake said, you know, I don't know what
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: show he's on. You know, I'm just trying to focus
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: on the team. Kind of a Cam response. But my
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 6: response was when I saw the Stevin eighth tith, I
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: was like, oh, Cam Newton's on first take, I discovered
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: the Kim Newton's on.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I saw that Cam Newton said, I didn't know what
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: always said neither. All those shows are the same.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 15: To me, and they all get clipped on Twitter. They
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 15: all look the same, don't you know.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: It's just someone standing at a camera saying so all
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: of a sudden.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: He's a liar. Better than that, right.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Also, Newton's problem with Drake in the Patriots understandable.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I think that Bill Belichick exposed Cam Newton at the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: end of his career, and he doesn't.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 15: Like that to do Drake. This is a kid that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 15: has taken every opportunity to talk about how much it's
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 15: really mean to me.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: How did Bill Belichick wrong Cam Newton.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Because he came in here and and because of the
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: coaching that he was given, he couldn't handle it. And
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: everyone realized, Okay, he's done.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Why couldn't he handle the coach?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: It was just too tough.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's the other way around. This is I
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: think this is an anti Patriots stance because the Patriots
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: fired Bill Belichick.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Now this is football.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: That's why.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 15: I think because Bill gave Cam a chance.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Bill was the only guy willing to allow Cam Newton
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: to continue playing football.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Either way, he doesn't like.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: The well, can I push back, like, can I just say,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: like I understand an opinion that the Patriots have beat
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: a bunch of bad teams and when it gets down
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: in the nitty gritty and they have to play somebody good,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: that someone doesn't think that they're good enough, Like I understand.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: I know it's that, but I don't get the Drake
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: May part of it. And it does seem to be
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: something with Cam Newton and Drake.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 15: May the first time he said something, and it's.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: Sort of like really odd to me because Drake May
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: has been so complimentary of Cam Newton.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: Drake said he was a Panthers fan until they let Cam.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Go, right, So that's the part. And I wonder if
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: if Cam is really up to speed and all of that,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: because that's that strikes me as the stuff that and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: I loved when Cam was here, Like off field he
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: was fine, Like I hated watching him play every week
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: and I said it every week, but I mean listening
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: to him, he was you know, he was an interesting
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: guy to listen to. And I wonder, this seems to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: me the kind of thing that he would eat up,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: like this is a young guy. He loved the Panthers
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: and loved to watch me play, and that's kind of
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: the way he plays, you know, kind of with a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: dual threat element to his game. I wonder if Cam
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: knows just how much May has spoken about his affinity
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: for Cam Newton.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Well, I mean, he doesn't have
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: much to say on those shows that makes sense. So
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I think they told him, if you're going to be
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: on the show, you got to be the one that
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: criticized the element that they have to have, like the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: different roles. You've got to be the one that criticizes
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. It doesn't sound fun, but I just don't
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: like calling someone a liar, is you know, like a lot?
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Stephen, is that an interesting run here last
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: couple of months?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: And I agree with you guys. If if Drake and
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: I wasn't here, so I don't know what Drake said.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: But if Drake said I don't know what show Cam
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: Newton's on, I don't find that non believable at all.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't I find that.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: Very If it was I don't know who Stephen A.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: Smith is or what show he's on, Dad, I would
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: say that's a lie.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: But even then I know who Stephen A. Smith is
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: of course, I didn't know the name of that show.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: You don't have to know the name of the show,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: but you know he's on everything. He's Smith is.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 15: Even if you do first take right, well, not keeping up, but.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: The first take part of it is irrelevant.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: It's Stephen a. You're saying like, oh, I don't know
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: who Stephen.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: That to me I would find non believable. But Cam Newton,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: he's kind of new to this. I don't know if
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: everybody knows.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: What shows and it's got really has like a rerun
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: to Get Up on our TV with esp news. I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 6: don't know what time the show actually does air. I've
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: never watched it, but that point at like seven am, Like,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: what are they sitting around watching First Take?
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: It here watching it?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: But they know of it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I have never almost never watched that show.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: If they know of it, it's from social media clips
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: and these kids if they even have ever watched these shows,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: they haven't watched these shows since elementary school and and but.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: You know of them.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: But even when you see it on social stop Get Up,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Get Up, First Take Take. What the name of the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: show is is not really pertinent to this story.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: It's exactly do you know Stephen A. Smith? No, you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: know Cam Newton. Do not know that Cam Newton is
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: on you?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 15: It's Today offended that because it's his show.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: He took it as a shot at him.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 15: He took it as a shot out himself, right.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: That's why I think the name of the show is
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: not The name of the show is totally relevant Stephen A.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Smith. That's what Drake said. I don't know. I didn't
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: know he was on that or what show he's on
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: right right? So what show it is is relevant. I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: don't know the names of these shows. I just see
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: the clips and I see Cam Newton like I see
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith. He's on every show on that stage
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: And that's the point. You don't have to know the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: show because it's just he is ESPN. And if Drake
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: may said I don't know that, but I wouldn't say
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: he was talking about Cam Newton exact. Find that highly believe. Yes,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: I don't equate Cam Newton right now with all of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: ESPN shows. Again, I don't care if it's Get Up, SportsCenter,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: NFL Live First Take, They're all the same, and it's
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: all noise, They're all it's all noise.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: And then dan Orlovsky, I'm gonna run to the locker room.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: Like he's said some nice things about the Patriots.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: Danie Olosky has been one of the biggest cheerleaders of
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. All see now they were asked to come
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: up with a fatal flaw for all the playoff teams.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to send saying that the Patriots
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: are playing too much nickel.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: He thinks that potentially could be a fatal flaw.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Which I say, all teams play mostly nickel.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: They play the third most I believe in the league.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the gap isn't that much because he thinks
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: they are, you know, the other teams.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: He's just worried about them doing that too much. I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: would say that they're the number one run defense in football,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: so obviously playing nickel to stop the run hasn't hurt them.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: He thinks it will.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know why everybody has to be a liar,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: but like that's that's what I said, said.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: He's a liar.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 15: If you have to find a flower with every who
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 15: said he's.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: A liar, why are you saying you just you just
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: I think you just said.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: He's I didn't say he's a liar.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: What did you say? I think he said he's making
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: stuff up that I think a hater again there is
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: I think he's wrong, and I said it on pelagram as.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: I think that they've been outstanding stopping the run with
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: these lighter fronts. So why is it all of a
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: sudden you're gonna come.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I think all these people are checking themselves because they're realizing,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I've been really complimentary of the patriots
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: so far. I gotta I gotta refer to do that.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: So as Mina Kaim's a hater too. She thinks the
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: fatal flaw is the past defense. We can't do that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: hat too.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard her it.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: It was on the same thing, what what what show?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Was on the very same thing NFL. It was on
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: the same thing that you just.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Guess he does.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: It's on the Twitter. Yeah, that's where these clips get
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 6: get life.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: I but you are doing right now what Steven A.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Smith is accusing Drake may have doing being intentional.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: You don't know who Mena Times is. No, you don't
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: know that they're ones.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that do you know?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Do you know that they're ONESPN?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't know what show it was. Do you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: know I had no idea that they were on the
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: same show and you didn't know.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't intentionally obtuse.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Now he's calling me a liar.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that you're a liar. I said you're
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: being intentionally. I had you have to go out of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: your way to not know that. You have to try
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: to not really, you're looking to me.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to let you cut. I'm just I'm
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm just wondering. I'm giving because I'm lighting
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a match and walking away to keep track of all
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: these Yeah, I'm being accused of being obtuse. I just
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: went honestly, I just didn't know that they were on
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: the same show.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't Again, why are you fixating on the show?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Who cares where they said it?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: Why is that relevant to the store?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: This is my whole I didn't even know she said it.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well I'm telling you she said this.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Is she a hater? Yes?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just want you to be consistent. I figured
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: you would say something different because most people don't think
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: of Mina Kimes that way, Okay, I don't think she's
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: a hater.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: They all hate us, I hate it. I don't.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: I think they all love you. The last thing they
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: want is I think they're totally in love with the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Patriots right now when ESPAN it's a love fest every day.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 15: Because of ratings.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: Right, How good they had it when we were on
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: top for years and years and they drummed up narratives
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: against us because they hate us.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 15: I believe, and now they're like, crap, we're struggling.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I believe that.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 15: Well, life was better for the networks and the Patriots
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 15: we're blowing everyone out.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: It was better for that network when they weren't just
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: bloviating about nonsense every day with Stephen A. Smith to
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: pull it all full circle, like it's all just yelling
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: at everybody every day and telling everybody what what they
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: should do and what they should do, and it's all
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: just fabricated arguments. That's why no one watches ESPN anymore.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: They don't do anything other ratings now. ESPN yeah terrible.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 15: Really, Disney would love to.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: They would love to get rid of that Pat McAfee
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: show that no one cares about, but everybody knows it's there.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 15: Well, it's on Twitter, on the Twitter, it's on YouTube.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I know about it. I think Alex is right.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: I think right now ESPN is embracing the Patriots because
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's good for ratings.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Right. But now that it's a little bit of pushback,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: we can't be too much on the bandwagon, so.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: We have to I'm just gonna try just to let
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: everybody know what actually happened is they're getting fatal flaws
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: for all the playoff teams.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 15: That's why is much different, like stephen a is.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: It's much different than with Cam Newton. Cam Newton clearly
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: has some kind of acts to grind against the Patriots.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Calling Cam Newton an hater to me would be accurate.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: When other people are asked to give a fatal flaw
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: to the Denver Broncos in the Indianapolis Colts and the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and the Patriots and they give one,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't classify that as being a hater. I classify
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: that as an exercise. What could derail a nine to
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: two team? Dean Rolofsky, in my mind, incorrectly states they
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: play too much nickel defense, which strikes me as a
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: guy who looks at the numbers on a spreadsheet and says, huh,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: they've played this percentage of nickel defense, and you can't
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: do that nowadays, when a lot of teams are going
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: under center more often, they're loading up with multiple tight
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: ends and playing power football and throwing off of that.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: And if you want to try to roll the dice
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: against say Indianapolis with Jonathan Taylor and play that way,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: you're going to struggle. But he's not watching the games
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: every week to see how they're handling those kinds of
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: packages with great success to the point where they're number
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: one in the league run.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Defense, right, incorrect, He's incorrect.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: I think he's incorrect. I said this yesterday on Felger.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: I think he knows he's incorrect too, and he's saying
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: it anyway.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think you album is correct.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: I think the problem is they're just trying to, like
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: I guess, grasp at a straw to come up with
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: something to say for the segment, because that's the nature
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: of the segment. But then you have aggregators taking it,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: posting a headline that says he said it a certain way.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: You kind of strip it of the nuance and then
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: it just rolls there you go, dove climbing special.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: That's how it goes. That's how it goes. Let's get
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: back to the phones. Eight five to five past five hundred.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. I hate Todd.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I was gonna bust Paul's balls a little bit,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: but seeing that you did a good job of that thread,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: I'll just kind of leave him alone and poor Alex
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: having to put up with your guys Statler and Waldor.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: I live for it, can okay, So Paul take your
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: get your nitrogen pill or your nitral pill out. You're
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: gonna need it for your heart. Because I'm predicting the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: Bengals win this thirty one to thirty, and they're gonna
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: put SPADs and get sticky on. They're gonna move Higgins
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: all over the place. I don't like the one of Gonzo,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: and our run defense has been kind of exposed, so
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: I think they might be able to get Burrow, you know,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: if he's got any moticum up of moment at all,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: they might get him moving around. And I think that
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: this is going to be one of these games where
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 5: oh we got surprised, kind of like the Bengals did
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: last year by, as said, I don't feel good about this,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: and I want my shirt when the Bengals win.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I look forward to the Todd from North Carolina call
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: postgame show when you're you know, three sheets to the wind.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: And I can't drink.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I got a ten year old, and you're like and
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I was wrong. I you know, I'm
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: sorry because No, thirty one thirty, he's a little bit.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: He's not a hater, but he gets warried.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 15: He's anxious.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: He gets very anxious.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 15: He cares so much.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: He gets very anxious. Yeah, good fan. Uh, let's go
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: to Carry in Texas. What's up Carry?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 21: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate it.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Go Pat got a lot of Texas calls today. There,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: I know, holiday in Texas today.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 21: We wish it's just the best date ever. But I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 21: just had a question for y'all. What do you guys
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 21: think about like the red zone. That's the only thing
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 21: that concerned me because we were struggling a lot last game,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 21: you know, again to just just trying to get it
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 21: into the end zone. I'm sorry not to git Tampa Bay,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 21: and so I'm just concerned. That's my concern. What do
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 21: you guys, like, what are your thoughts? How are we
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 21: going to be more aggressive to make sure that once
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 21: we're there, we're going to get that touchdown.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: No matter what?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, red zone, I think red zone offense has been fine.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: Red zone defense has been a problem. But I mean
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: I think I think they've had I mean, just looking
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: at that Tampa game, they didn't really get to the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: red zone all that often because they had the long
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: runs for Henderson in that game. But the Jets game,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: I thought they had a couple of seven yard touchdown
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: runs for Henderson when they got down close. Yeah, they
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: got held to a field goal late in the game
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: after that fumble, which is that was disappointing when they
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: took over inside the ten and couldn't score. I mean, yeah,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: I see what your point.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Is, Carrie.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: I do think there's been some inconsistency. But offensively, I
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: feel pretty good about the way that they've They've been
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: in the red zone. Defensively has been a problem.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 15: To me, it's about like the run, getting the run
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 15: game going a little more.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: For they haven't run the ball.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: They haven't run it well that There's no question about that.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: Because throwing into the red zone to make Carrie not
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: really knowing anything about this stuff, just like visually and conceptually,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: to me, it would make sense that like a red zone,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: it's a really condensed field. It's just packed with defenders.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: So it's harder to get a target open unless you
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: have like a huge guy or guy to screw at
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: contested catches. So when you can just run the ball
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: and ram it in makes it easier.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: And that's just something they've struggled with.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I agree. Our friends at ESPN of Texas saying they're
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: having their best ratings in a decade isn't here.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: That's because Alex will tell you because they're talking about
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: the Patriots to.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: The Patriots, So maybe the format works. Yeah, more shouting,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: less highlights, right, nice?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 12: Fred?
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, Eldrid Try Eldred's in North Carolina? What's what's up? Eldred?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 17: Hey Fellas, Hey Alex, how you're doing? How you doing good?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 15: How are you?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 17: I'm okay? Fred steven A. Smith is the damn jerk.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 17: I don't know, and I can't understand Cam except step
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 17: he's hating so I think you see and Drake would
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 17: he would have been if he intore the shoulder gets
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 17: in the Super Bowl.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think that's a but.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 17: But but if he knew, they can't that Drake was
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 17: a cam Fagan. I think he had changed it.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Why doesn't he know that? I know he has to.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 17: Well, I think, like I said, Cam is Cam. He
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 17: just he just ain't the same like it used to be.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 17: He's about to lose me as a fan too, though.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 17: But yeah, but Paul, yes, that lady on ESPN. I
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 17: don't worried about their passing their passing defenseause, like I.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: Said, I think her fatal flower is a lot more
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 6: wise than than than Orlowski's is.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 17: Yeah, That's that's what I'm worried about. So they're blue
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 17: and coverage, everybody getting open, you know, or they're losing something,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 17: and then they got that rush against that line like
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 17: it's supposed to be.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: So you know.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 17: But but my prediction is twenty eight twenty one US.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 17: So it was Cincinnati. That's what I'm looking at.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, y'all have a good one.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Thanks Eldred.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: You know I always tell you I'll take the win
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: no matter what. Sure, I'd be a little disappointed if
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: they only score twenty eight points, not gonna lie. Yeah,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: that's how bad this defense is. Twenty eight wouldn't be enough.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: So if they only score twenty eight turnovers, you think
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: keeps it down or no? I don't know. I was
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: eld Eldred's prediction. I don't know. Yeah, you hung up
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: on him, couldn't explain it. He said, goodbye. I'm just kidding.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Why are you so defensive.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Today, accusing me of stuff?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not accusing you of anything.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Having DJ's in Arizona? What's up, DJ, Harry, what's up everybody?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 12: I hope they all are having a great day today.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: You too, Yes, yes, thank you, thank you.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 22: So my thing is I've been a Patriots fan for
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 22: a long time. I'm twenty six all my life, and
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 22: I think Cam Newton is for sure being a hater.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 22: And I also agree that the show is important because
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 22: Drake May said that he didn't know what show Cam
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 22: Newton was on. So I think the show does matter. Yes,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 22: knowing their names does, But I think the show matters
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 22: because that was.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 12: The comment that he made, right.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 22: It wasn't necessarily attacking.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: I get it, But the point is he doesn't know
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Cam Newton, what show Kim where Cam Newton is.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: That's what it said.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: I know if he had said I don't know where
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: Stephen A. Smith is, I would say I'm kind of
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: with Smith. He probably I don't think he's lying. I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: don't think he knows what show Cam Newton's I don't
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: think a lot of people know the show. That's the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: whole point. J.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with dj R. I am with you. DJ.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 22: I'm saying I don't think that it's not important to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 22: know the show. It is important because he said it
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 22: was directed to the show that Cam Newton was on.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: Correct, he doesn't know Cam Newton's on it. That's the point.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: But you said it's not important.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 6: I don't think the show, the specific show is because
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: he doesn't know Cam Newton's on it.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: No one knows that camp. This is a new thing.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Cam Newton is just new to the show. Okay, he
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't know where Cam Newton.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: I understand with them too, it's irrelevant because it's about
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: Cam Newton.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: He's saying it is. Really I am too.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 15: Brought up a good point to me, Thank you.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: DJ.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: How Aldred said like he's just jealous of Drake, and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: I think when you're really like insecurity when you see
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: someone who kind of has what you don't, so to speak,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: I think I just think that.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: I just think he's trying to be sensational, you know,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: like it's it's just what am I going to say
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: to make headlines?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 15: Maybe you know I would have more grace. You have
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 15: more grace to a kid that for a really long time.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: My point is, I think it was a shot at
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: cam Newton, not as Stephen A.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Smith.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 15: I don't think it was a shot.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a shot. I didn't know
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: he was on that show, all right. So this is
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: where I'm going to separate.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: If you guys don't think Cam Newton, I mean, Drake
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: may knows that what's being said and not said.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: That's not what he said, does I know?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: But my point is it was a shot at Cam Newton.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where he is, that's what he
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know where he's saying.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: Okay things textbook player speak for shooting down, like a
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: reporter who's trying to give you bulletin board materials. Right,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 4: He's like, oh no, we're blocking out the noise.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 15: I don't know what that show is.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know where he I don't know where he's
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: what show he's one. That's a shot at Cam Newton.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: I'm with you, guys, don't We're saying the same thing.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: We're just interpreting it different ways.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: That's all because I don't necessarily take it as a shot.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: I take it as just Drake trying to get out
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: of a question.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: I just think it's very understandable that people don't know
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: where Cam Newton appears to give these opinions.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 15: I think that's going to be the newsletter poll this week.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: I think it's Drake. I think Drake May is very believable.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: I think he has no idea where Cam Newton said that.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm with him because I didn't either.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 6: I didn't and as you make fun of me all
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 6: the time for watching too much of this crap, I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 6: mean it's I don't watch that show.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it's on in the morning, like
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: we're working. Most people are working, you know, so I
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. And like you said, you see it on
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: social media, but there's not like a headline this was
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: set on this show. You just see the clip. Yeah,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: they'll be like a little bug and they the same.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 15: Yeah, how do you keep trying.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: To Drake Drake may alone. Just let him play football.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Just let him play football. Just let Drake play. We
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: have to bother him with these things.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 6: Oh we're back, terrible, We're back, baby dance in Daytona.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 12: Ding?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: Hey?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: Can you guys hear me?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 9: So I meant to call it the last couple of days.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: I wanted to get Paul Stake and Freda, Well, I'd
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: rather get get all your guys take on this.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 12: Do you remember back.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 9: Paul in the beginning season, what the season started. We
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 9: were all talking maybe maybe the team was going to go,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 9: you know, at best eight and nine, was feeling I
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: remember friend saying he thought they'd go nine and eight.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 9: But now we're fast forward to the middle of season
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 9: until now, you know, I was saying, back before they
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 9: played the Bills and the Bucks, I was thinking maybe
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: we were probably at best ten and seven. Then I
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 9: revised it again. I said, all right, maybe twelve and five.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: But I think at this point, if the Patriots could
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 9: literally just stay healthy and managed to keep playing the
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 9: way they've been doing it every single week, I don't
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 9: see why we can't go fifteen and two and everyone
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 9: keeps bringing up more hot and I'm being dead. I
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 9: think some people are out here saying, oh, Baltimore's getting hot,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 9: and if Joe Burrow comes back, and I mean, I
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 9: think all that's irrelevant. Maybe the only thing that holds
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 9: water is maybe Baltimore, but we still don't know, so
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 9: I just want to get y'all stink of that. Do
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: you think we can go fifteen to two?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Or they can, of course, but I think it's more
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: likely they go something like thirteen if h four to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: thirteen and.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: Four, yeah, I mean they have two losses, so yes,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: you can go fifteen and two.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 15: Writing a wind streak into the playoffs would make me
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 15: a little nervous. Now, that's the most like a really weird,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 15: superstitious thing.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: I know some people say drop a game, even too.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 15: I'll take it deep postseason run.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the division is the important thing to me, even
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: more so than the number one seed, although if they
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: have a chance for the number one seed, that's enormous.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: But if you win the division, you put yourself in
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: position to make a run. If you have to do
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: it on the road the whole way, that makes it
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: infinitely harder.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: Andrew and Louisiana writes in all I know is Drake
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: may would have jumped on the ball cam. There you go,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: There you go, Mike drop, Mike drop jacket and arbor.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe Fred is not being intentionally up to. Maybe Fred
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: is just jejune. You know what that means? You're probably right.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know what jajun means. I've heard the word,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what it means.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 15: I don't even know how I would look that up.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 15: How do you spell that?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: J e j u n e okay, jejune?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 15: Get right on that.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm afraid to know what it means. Let's see.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Noah in Iowa City rights in we're waiting for Deuce
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: by the way, right, we can't start the pitch start
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: picks until gets back.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 15: Uh.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Noa in Iowa City, just beginning college. I wanted to
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: ask you guys a question about careers in football.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 10: What.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know this was going to be a
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: career advice question. There's a lot of careers in football.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Career workshop. Are you an analyst? You could be one
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: of the tight pants people. Are you a trainer? You
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: could be from the locker? Thank god, it was the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: mood where the players friendly.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 9: To that none of them looked like Devin Henry.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 15: Hey, Mike, what was it like?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 23: Like?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 18: What was it like?
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Mike, what was it like? In the locker row.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: About ten minutes ago they let us in a little late,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: but to get to talk to Jalen Hawkins, who was
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: asked about, you know, the difference between facing Flacco and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 6: Burrow said, you know, we really don't know, but we
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: have to prepare similar kinds of players, but they seem
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: as much in the dark as we are talking about it.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: And the other funny thing.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: Which I think I thought about it wasn't here, but
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 6: Rabel played against young Joe Flacco.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Uh Rabel's last game ever? Was it really?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 6: So?
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: He's asked about that. He was.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: He was a little bit like, man, I can't believe
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: that kind of connecting those those two worlds. But otherwise,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: just some talk about who the fastest member of the
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: team is. Some debate about that going on. Obviously Travan
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: Henderson in that conversation, Kyle Williams, Marcus Jones, and and
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: Brendan Schooler.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 20: Were the.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Hawkins wasn't willing to commit to anybody, but leaning Trayvon hunder.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's just like game speed.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: Uh that's where i'd lane, But it was we could
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: have used Evan who uh saw him talking to Barth.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: I didn't see him really Yeah, now I on Evan
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: talking to Barth a little bit. But Hawkins asked, He's like,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: well were the forty times from the combine? And I
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: was like, where's Evan? Because Evan w probably just be like, well,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: you know, he knows them all rattle him off, but
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: but good, good energy, you know, lively locker room. Hawkins
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: also said, you know, the week, a couple of days off,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: nice to get away, but overall feels like they're they're
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: picking up right where they left off, trying to get
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: back out there and go get a winning Since.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Anyone ask people like, you know, if Joe have you
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: heard of Joe Burrow might play? Yeah?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was actually yeah, well that's what he said.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: He said, we just we don't show you got to prepare.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: But I mean, he said, you know, it's kind of
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: what we talked about the beginning.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: They similar players.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: It's not like you're trying to prepare for Lamar Jackson
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: or a pocket passers.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: So guys who are.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Smart can get the ball out quick and then you
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: know know where.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: To go with it. So yeah, that was a kind
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: of it. All right, Well we got a hurry because
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: it's that time of the week, Paul, what happened last week?
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: Same as it always was.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 6: Fred kersh twelve and three the top of a heap,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 6: followed by Alex Evan and myself at ten and five, and.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: Mike, how about eight and seven? Do better? That's pretty bad?
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Be better?
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: Kind of right with the spread? Evan and Fred oh
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: seven and eight.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: Seven and eight, Oh, tough week with us week, Paul
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: six and nine, nice, Mike and Alex five and ten.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 6: So season standings are as follows Alex one eleven fifty
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: two and one, followed by Fred one oh nine fifty
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: four and one, so still close at the top. Mike
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: maintains his third place one O three sixty and one,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: followed by Me one hundred and sixty three and one
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: and Evan ninety eight sixty five and one.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: With the spread, it's really a one man race. It's
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: all over at this point. Fred eighty nine and seven
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: seventy five, Alex, Evan and Paul are all tied for
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: second at seventy nine and eighty five, So ten games
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: back week and Mike seventy one and ninety three.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going good all right. So as I said,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I think there's some really interesting games this week, and
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: we start with tonight on eight fifteen on Prime. It's
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills at seven and three visiting the Houston
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: Texans at five and five. Houston Texans, Houston Texans, Houston?
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: Is that a Is that a song? Actually it's Houston Oilers.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: So my Miami Dolphins stole that from the Houston Oilers.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, I didn't know he just went
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: into song and I'm just so, you know, wondering. I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: really don't know who stole it. Usually they both sang
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: the same.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 6: Song, like in the San Diego Superchargers Houston oil seventy song.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know who stole it from who, but we
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: stole it. I believe Oilers started it. Anyway, what's the
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: what's the number?
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry Buffalo by five and a half oohoof No
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: DJ Stroud, no Roud.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Houston's defense getting a lot of respect.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 6: But I just I think Buffalo is going to continue
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: to make a push here. I'm gonna take the Bills,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: and I'm gonna lay the points that.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 15: Will take the Bills. I will lay the points.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: I will take the Bills to win, but I will
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: take the points.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: Thursday Night games I think are generally slogs, so I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: don't envision Buffalo putting up a ton of points in
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I will take the points as well. I wish I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: could take it outright, but I can't do that. But yes,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: I will take the points all right. Sunday at one
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: on CBS, it's the Jets at two and eight against
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: the Ravens at five and five.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: Baltimore by thirteen and a half.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 20: Woo.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of big spreads this week. And I
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: saw Lamar was missing from practice yesterday, same as last week, so.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 6: Maybe a little bit of a rest shoot. If Ady
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 6: Mitchell could catch the ball, I might take the points.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna take Baltimore. Yeh God, I'm a little
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: bit torn. That'll lay the points, stupid Jets.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 15: I'm kind of feeling what Mike is feeling. I don't
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 15: know how I feel about that. I'll take the Ravens
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 15: to win. Spread one more time and a half.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Two tuddies Jets cover.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: I'm going to take Baltimore and I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: I think people are going to overreact to the Cleveland
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: game being closer, you know, sort of not realizing some
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: of the fluky things that happened to keep that game closer.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 3: I think the Ravens. I think the Ravens will lay
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: the wood.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: I was tempted to make this a loser lock game.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that, but I will take
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: the points. Baltimore wins, but they do not cover. Sunday
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: at one on CBS, it's Pittsburgh at six and four,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: at Chicago at seven and three, Chicago by two and
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: a half like that number.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Chicago. I don't know what's
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: up without Aaron Rodgers. Like I thought, you know, broken
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: left wrist would be enough to keep him out, but
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: it seems like he's gonna give it a go.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's the left wrist, I know, but still tough
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: to take that snap. Yeah, I don't know. You're gonna
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: get hit, probably, and he's already doesn't like to be hit.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: I'll take Chicago at home on lay the points.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 15: I'm gonna take Chicago too.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know the Bears are winning. I haven't been
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: overly impressed with most of the wins, but I'm gonna
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take them to.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: Win a game.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe a slight step up in opponent Pittsburgh. This is
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: more pick against Pittsburgh than four.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I'm gonna take the Bears Sunday at one,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: the Giants at two and nine at the Detroit Lions
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: six and.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: Four the Big Box, now the big spread, Lions by
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: ten and a half.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, that is a lot. Uh yeah.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 6: I know that they're not quite doing what they did
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 6: last year, but i'll take I'll take Detroit.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points too, So Lions.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points. Lions looked terrible last week.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: I think generally they bounce back and score a ton
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: of points.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lay those points on this one. Sunday at one
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: on Fox Minnesota at four and six at green Bay
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: six three and one, green Bay by six and a half.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 12: Mmmm.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: The the JJ McCarthy stuffs kind of cracked me out.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: A lot of he's catching a lot of flak out there,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: and I thought he looked pretty good in the joint
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: practices with the Patriots.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 6: But I like green Bay at home. They're wishy washy.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 6: They beat good team, they beat bad teams. They struggle
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: against good teams. I'll take green Bay, lay the points.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: I'll take green Bay, but you like nine.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I just feel like they have been a weird team.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: Green Bay like they lose game, you know, lose to Cleveland,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: they lose to whoever, Carolina, and you think that they
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: would blow doors off. I'm just gonna tell at some
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: point they got to live up to their potential. I'm
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: gonna take green Bay both ways.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Ye, green Bay both ways at home. Uh, Sunday at
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: one on CBS, here's the game Indy eight and two at.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 6: K C five and five, case By three and a half.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: We'll have a game on this on this one and
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: eye on this one. I should say, yeah, I gotta
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna bet on Patrick Mahomes. I just think Indianapolis
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 6: traveling outside like Jonathan Taylor. I think it's close, but
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 6: I think Kansas City does enough. I'll lay the points.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 15: Can you be the spread for me? One three and
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 15: a half for Casey.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Colts.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: I could definitely make a good argument for the cold.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: I'll split it though. I'll take Casey to win the game,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: just because of how desperate they are. If they lose
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: this one, they can't really lose again. So I think
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: they can find a way to get this win. But
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: I will take the points. I'll take the hook, the hook.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Indy to win, right, Indy
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: to win. Good. It wouldn't be good for the Patriots.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: But no, I know, do I really want to do that? Yeah,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: because you get confused.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 15: No, it hurts his heart, but it hurts his head.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: It's hurting his head. I really want I want both
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: teams to lose. And that's the problem. You know, you Casey,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: you know you're stick sticking the dagger in him. It
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: could be the death blow. But Indy, I don't want
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: them to win. Yeah, I'm gonna just go with Indy.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: It's just my gut, all right. Seattle seven and three
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: at Tennessee one and nine.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 6: Fox yet another month, Seattle by thirteen and a half,
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: then uh like one, two, double Digital, the four, five, six,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: seven of a touchdown or more.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: A lot of big spreads this week.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: I'll take Seattle and I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: points too.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald bounce back.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 15: I'm gonna take Seattle. Mhm, Titans.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Seattle both ways. For the reasons
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: that Mike said their offense was bad last week. Donald
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: with four picks, I think they bounced back.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tennessee doesn't strike me as a team that's you know, oh,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: they got a bad record, but they're frisky. Then not frisky.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I'll take risky last week, but I'll take Seattle to cover. Okay,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Now we skip over the Patriots at one o'clock and
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: we go to four h five, the Jaguars at six
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: and four at the three and seven Cardinals.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 6: One of the rare low spreads Jacksonville by three. Yeah,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 6: that sounds like a good number six jackson another tough
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 6: team to get a beat on him, assuming it's obviously
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: Jacoby Brissette again Jesus, Yeah, I'll take Jacksonville.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: Only broke my boys record last week. It was crazy completion.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: He was terrible in the game, but complete a lot
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 3: of passes. Jacksonville both twas.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 15: Yes, Please Jacksonville lay the points.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 20: Uh.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: I hate this.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: I hate having any faith at all in Jacksonville.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: This is exactly the kind of game that they lay
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: in Eggin, but I'll take the Jags.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Folks, this is your lack of the week. Jacksonville covers.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: This is an easy one for said the disdain. It's
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: another one, you know.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: Again, I don't like to tell you what you should
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: think and what you should do, but this is one
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: you should be rooting for Jacksonville to win that game.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: If you're a Patriots fan, you want to get rid
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: of the Chiefs. If you're really worry about.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs, you throw through these scenarios more than I have.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: Paul, I'm surprised, really, not that hard.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Yea Sunday at four five the two and eight Cleveland
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Browns at the Raiders two and eight.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: Now there's a game for you. Vegas by three and
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, Pete Carroll continues to believe in Gino Smith.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're you're eleven. It'll he'll get it.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: Brown should do it four for sixteen.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think is going to have a rough go
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 6: of it with Matt Crosby. I'm going to take Vegas
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: all ay the points.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 15: I'll take the Raiders too.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: God, Wow, the tough one. I'll take it. I'll just
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: take the two bad teams. I'll take the home team.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: I know Sanders had a really horrible game. I didn't
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: see it, but he never played with the starters before.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Just awful.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw it, but I the zone, the red
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: zone clips, I didn't see the game itself is clockwork orange.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: He's got a full weeks on the second snap and
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: threw a pick on his fourth.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh god, I'm gonna go with Cleveland to win
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: this game.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: Wow wow, yeap, not a lot when they when when
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: Dion starts taking receipts, we know Fred Fretz cover happen.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: These are two bad only one man believe Fred Kersh
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: from Patriots.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Anybody could win that.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 15: Get them on the show.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: Sunday four twenty five on Fox. The Eagles at eight
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: and two are at the Cowboys four five and one,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Philly by three. No respect for the Eagles.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah no, I mean Dallas hit a lot of people back.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: I mean added obviously on on defense with Williams. I'm
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: gonna go with the upset on this one.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just got a vibe on this.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 15: I think the Cowboys cover, but don't lose close.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: Game Philly, and you'll take the points.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 6: I also saw a stat mate. Sorry ox, I didn't
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 6: say that I don't think dak Pressco Is lost at
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 6: home in the NFC East since like twenty seventeen.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Dallas to win the game too.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe I'm being taking the cheese because of the Raiders,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: and I know that was more about the Raiders, but
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: I thought with Quinn Williams in there and over showing back,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: that defense looked a little better to me. And with
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: the Eagle struggles, I think I think Dallas will have
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: a chance to win this game.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, Paul, I'm gonna go with Dallas. I got
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: a field this week. I'm gonna either be really good
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: or epically bad. I'm gonna go with that. I feel
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm the only one who's epically back. Sunday four, twenty five,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: Atlanta at three and seven at the Saints two and eight.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Saints by one and a half. A lot of toilet
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: bowls this week, Cleveland at Vegas, Atlanta at New Orleans.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: You get your divisions, Jesus shooting, Kirk Cousins playing man.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: I don't know what to do on this one. This Yeah,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: you know what I'm gonna go with just Kirk Cousins.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: I guess I'm gonna go with Atlanta the upset.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 15: Marginally, I'm just gonna go with a spread on this one, Saints.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: So that's normally my theory. With two bad teams, I
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: take the home team.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: I close. I don't know why.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: There's no reason to think this, but for some reason,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: I think if Atlanta is a different level of bad
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: team than New Orleans. So I'm gonna take Atlanta. But
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: that's stupid, that's given away.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with Atlanta to Sunday eight twenty Tampa
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Bay six and four at the Rams eight and two.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: The ROMs by six and a half.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: That's a big spread. Oh, I like this one.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 6: This is I say it manytime, my favorite time. After
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: the Patriots one o'clock game. You get home, you got
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: everything done, you're enjoying yourself, and then a nice night
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 6: Sunday night game. Well it's fifteen minutes away, so there.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 6: But I'm gonna go with the ROMs and I'm gonna
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 6: but I'm gonna take the points for Baker little Frisky.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: You know they gotta they gotta start making a push.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I have to like their instrument Bucks cover
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: Rams Win Bucks cover. Yes, I will take the ROMs
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 3: both ways.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: I'm with Alex Rams win but don't cover.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Monday Night eight fifteen, ESPN, ESPN Deportus Carolina six and
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: five at the forty nine Ers seven and four, No
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: Winers by seven.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: Get to watch my Panthers go, Paul, This is exciting
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: for me. Uh, I'm gonna take San Francisco at home.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: I'll lay the points.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 15: Retweet.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: This is the off week for the Panthers, so they
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: look like they'd never played before. Niners.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Niners. Pretty bad.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 15: Last week.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: Mac shone is going to be on a different team
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: I believe he's under contracts. Oh really unless they trade him,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: trade him. Yeah, they could trade him, but I don't
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: think they will, and I think I think, but I think.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 15: I'm pretty happy there.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Will he start whining? I want to go, well, yes,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: because that's what he does.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: He's wines right like I don't want to go New one.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not fair. That was that was the spot
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: for him. That that was, that was call for. Now
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: we go back to one o'clock and it's the New
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: England Patriots at nine and two visiting the Bengals at
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: three and seven.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 3: You had another monster spread Pats by seven seven.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 15: Even move speculation.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Has not moved with the Borrows move. That's a good
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: number though. I like New England on this one.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: There's just no excuse for Drake May and the offense
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: not to light this Bengals defense up.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: If Burrow plays it might, you know, be a look.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: At that spread today, Paul, I did, okay, double check them? Yeah,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: give me the Patriots. How I didn't you score? I'm
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: going to say what I do on Monday. I went
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 3: really low and really went low.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 15: Paul went high.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go a little higher this time. I'm
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: going to say, uh, Patriots thirty four to seventeen.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 15: I forget what I said Monday too. I think it
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 15: was Patriots' thirty one or Patriots thirty three, and it's
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 15: like they flip corn give them seventeen points.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm in last place.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 12: I am.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: I am very bullish on the Patriots offense this week.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 3: I think they score early and often a little bit
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: of a stat padding game for Drake May and one.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: For the MVP resume.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 6: Three hundred yards, maybe three hundred yards for the first
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: time in his career, maybe four touchdowns for the first
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: time in.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: His career, telling Francisco thirty eight twenty four Patriots.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. I'll do one better
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: forty two forty two to twenty one Patriots. Let's do
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: it forty Harold Landry two sacks, Wow.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 3: Sad all right?
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: Two SATs for two days after Francisco. I'm an Arrol Lander.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: Want to note this, here's a bold take, Landry?
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Any other bol takes that people have, any like predictions?
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 17: Uh?
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: Paul predicted over three hundred yards for Drake May. He
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: said May, But I mean that's what I'm looking at.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily call that a bold take, even though
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: he's never done it. I mean that's I would go
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: all Fred and go semantics and say, well he's never
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: done it. Well, he's never done it.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 6: In terms of, you know, bonuses likely to be earned
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 6: to us for like two eighty every week, but you know,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: twenty more this week.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: I'll go Kayshan Boody hundred yards. You know, a couple couple.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 15: Britt out for deep ball touchdown for Booty. But I'll
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 15: ride with yours because I like that.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: But team Boody, who has more rushing yards? Henderson or Stevenson,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Henderson tough, It's tough. I don't even know if Stevens
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: is going to play. That's why I picked he. I
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: know he's going to play.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: About Terrell Jennings or Remandra Stevenson, who.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Has more receiving yards, Hunter Henry or Henderson Hunt Hunter Hunt. Okay,
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: they'll call him Hunt the locker Hunt. That's what they
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: call that's his nickname.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: That's some of the flavors. Maybe you should give us
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: when you return from.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: How many times do the Patriots punt in this game? Twice? Twice?
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 15: Three times?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Once?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 15: Okay?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Once?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to predict the punts come in the
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: second half of a blowout.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Does Josh Dobbs get in yes? Wow? To take
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: the knee.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: Well to finish the game. I don't know if he's
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 3: going to take a knee.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: All right, one more call. I don't think this game
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: is going to be close. I don't know.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 6: I'm reading between the lines with what you're selling, Paul,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 6: and I think I got that.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: I hope you're right, Paul.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 3: Like a couple of people have told me that this
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 3: is not just the worst defense in football, No, it's
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: the worst of all times.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 6: Like the set according to d v AWA, which is,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: you know, an advanced stat that they've used track, it's this.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 6: According to that stat this is the worst defensive all
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: time of all time since they started tracking since what
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know how.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's nineteen eighty nineteen eighty something, that's about right, Yep, yeah, yeah,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: because I remember, you know, the Providence Steamrollers that one
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: year had a bad day. They couldn't stop. Now, they
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't stop, and no matter what they did, no one
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: was over two hundred pounds. That was all Bart Scott. Yep.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: That poor coach couldn't get them to listen. Casey fired
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: them at the end of the year. I recall Casey's
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What's up, Casey? Is that all real?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 8: No?
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 23: Hey, first off, at Nation Baby, let's.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Go, let's go defend the wall.
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  Speaker 12: I'm so happy I'm.
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  Speaker 23: Not sitting in front of my TV praying for Bailey
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  Speaker 23: Zappy to come in. But on that thing with Cam
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  Speaker 23: Newton calling out Drake may Man kind of hurt because, like,
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  Speaker 23: I'm in North Carolina, North Carolina Border Rays. I have
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  Speaker 23: a Cam Newton Patriots jersey, so like so does Drake
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  Speaker 23: may I'm all for Drake. You know, I think that's
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  Speaker 23: kind of fly. You know, he should have be doing
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  Speaker 23: all that, but let's go, let's go Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, But it's just kind of case.
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  Speaker 6: He spark like an internal civil war in North Carolina,
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  Speaker 6: like the Cam Newton's in the area.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't get it. Like, like Alex said, does
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  Speaker 1: he know how Drake feels about him? Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you should write him a letter, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't. I don't get it. I don't get it,
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  Speaker 1: all right, it makes no sense.
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  Speaker 3: Does Drake has been over the top complimentary of Cam Newton?
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  Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
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  Speaker 15: And I've never taken Cam to be like that. Like
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  Speaker 15: I think there's an old story.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's with KG in uh Jaquem Noah where
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  Speaker 4: Noah's like rookie season. He went up to KG and
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  Speaker 4: was like you're my favorite player, no no and KG
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  Speaker 4: was like f you Noah, Like get.
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  Speaker 1: Out of here. That's how Paul is when he meets fans.
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  Speaker 15: But I don't think Cam to be like that.
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  Speaker 1: I would I'm trying to eat.
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  Speaker 3: You should see me in the library circuit more than I.
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  Speaker 1: It just reminds me of that commercial that cam Newton
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  Speaker 1: was in and the little kid, you're my favorite player.
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  Speaker 1: And then at the end, I'm just warming up my arm.
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  Speaker 15: A cam that was like fight got into a fight
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  Speaker 15: at his football camp with some kids.
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  Speaker 1: No kids were being disrespectful, for.
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  Speaker 15: Sure, this was not on cam, but the visual is hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in that incident. He was being too
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  Speaker 1: nice to those kids, you know. Yeah, but he's not
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  Speaker 1: being nice to Drake Man. I don't understand it. And
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  Speaker 1: Drake May's going to take it out. And next week
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  Speaker 1: on Get on or Get up or Get Off, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to have a mia Koppa and a mina times.
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  Speaker 1: All right, everyone, have a good weekend pregame show eleven correct,
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