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The Montauk Project (Repost) · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy, the show, with your hosts, Adam Todd
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Conor McSpadden.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Conspiracy, the show. I'm Adam Todd Brown.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Conor McSpadden.
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  Speaker 2: We are your goddamn hosts.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Steering you through the storm.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Depending on your interpretation of the storm. If you're
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  Speaker 2: one of those QAnon types, maybe you think we are literally... Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is the storm? What do they think? What's that
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  Speaker 3: storm code word for in QAnon land?
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  Speaker 2: It's this operation that's supposed to happen where a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of people on the left are going to get rounded
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  Speaker 2: up for being... Operatives of Russia and pedophiles and just
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  Speaker 2: international criminals. Gotcha.
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  Speaker 4: It's like Order 66 in Star Wars, but for liberals.
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  Speaker 2: And it's Donald Trump working in tandem with the Mueller probe. Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the real aim.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the best shit on the internet is just
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  Speaker 4: Facebook accounts of people like, Yeah, my wife left because
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  Speaker 4: of Q, but that's not going to stop.
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  Speaker 3: Me from getting to the truth.
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  Speaker 2: All right? That's all I have.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I need.
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  Speaker 4: People that have thrown their lives away by just believing
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  Speaker 4: way too hard in this 4chan guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an aspect of that called 10 Days of Darkness,
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  Speaker 2: where I don't know what it's exactly supposed to be,
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  Speaker 2: but some sort of silence that happens and then all
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  Speaker 2: these arrests. And when the government shutdown started, people were like,
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  Speaker 2: is this it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it the storm?
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  Speaker 2: And it's been 30 days now, so.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's a slow-moving cold front, but it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: It's in dog days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That wouldn't, I don't know if that math would work.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what are we mon-talking about today?
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit. The nicely, I'm intimidated to even.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah. I know. Pulling out, pulling out the, my closer.
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  Speaker 4: That's like when you're doing class projects, and the kid
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  Speaker 4: before you crushes so hard, you're like, I kind of
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  Speaker 4: just phoned in this whole thing about Frog and Toad.
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  Speaker 3: What if they had a bicycle shop together?
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  Speaker 2: Fuck. That was me every time, because I went to
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  Speaker 2: a school where kids were just starting to get computers. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there would always be that one fuckstick who had
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  Speaker 2: a printer, and his shit looked all professional.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, with his fucking Peggy Hill Macintosh back at home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck that kid.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I.
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  Speaker 4: officially dropped out of community college to become a stand-up
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  Speaker 4: comedian i had the geology of the solar system class
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  Speaker 4: and we had to do a presentation and i we
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  Speaker 4: really just my group just didn't fucking do it you
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  Speaker 4: know uh so this guy just says all right i
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  Speaker 4: know it's going to make this presentation good and these
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  Speaker 4: are just dumb community college guys two and three you
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  Speaker 4: know and he just goes presentation background music i've got
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  Speaker 4: my phone in this bluetooth speaker So we'll play it
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  Speaker 4: underneath us the whole time to make it more compelling.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, that's the best we got.
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  Speaker 2: You do it.
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  Speaker 3: And then I improvised this whole.
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  Speaker 4: Story about going to the launch pad and going, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And we ended up getting like an A plus.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, why am I not being charlatanizing on
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  Speaker 4: a more organized professional level?
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  Speaker 3: This is not the place for me.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I pulled it off, but I'm wasting my
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  Speaker 4: talents here.
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  Speaker 2: That I on last one of the daily podcast episodes
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  Speaker 2: last week, I told a similar story about how like
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  Speaker 2: the first time I knew I could write and that
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  Speaker 2: I could maybe just write for a living. I was
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  Speaker 2: in eighth grade and I had to do a book
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  Speaker 2: report about Martin Luther King Jr. And I did not
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  Speaker 2: read the book, but I was like, I'm in eighth grade.
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  Speaker 2: I know enough about Martin Luther King Jr., That I
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  Speaker 2: can write 500 words about it. Yeah. And this teacher's
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  Speaker 2: not going to go back and read the book and
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  Speaker 2: make sure I'm not just making this shit up.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: And I got an A on that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, because she's like, oh, he's just pulling out
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  Speaker 4: details no one else even got. And you're like, because
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  Speaker 4: I made those up, you stupid bitch. How do you
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  Speaker 4: like that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty great. So this week is kind
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  Speaker 2: of a continuation of last week. Last week we talked
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  Speaker 2: about the Phoenix Project and the Philadelphia Experiment, especially.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the all-off shoots of Project Rainbow, and weird
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  Speaker 4: government battleship naval invisibility technology, and the alleged phasing in
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  Speaker 4: and out of the universe, the crazy side effects, the teleportation,
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  Speaker 4: the crew members catching on fire.
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  Speaker 3: For 18 hours.
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  Speaker 2: 18 days. 18 days.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I forgot. Silly me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No ability to put the fire out.
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  Speaker 3: What a weird amount of time. It really is.
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  Speaker 4: If you were like three days or six months, I'd
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  Speaker 4: be okay. But I mean, just 18 days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Of firing fire guys.
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  Speaker 2: 18 days of fire.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Coming soon from the people who brought you QAnon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, 18 days of fire.
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  Speaker 4: The new Adam Sandler conspiracy vehicle. Gets a DUI and
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  Speaker 4: a UFO. I'd watch that shit. Crazy Nights is actually
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  Speaker 4: a pretty good movie.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. So when we left off the Phoenix
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  Speaker 2: Project and Project Rainbow, which was the project behind the
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Experiment, they had teamed up to try and figure
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  Speaker 2: out why the Philadelphia Experiment went so wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And to give people who are listening for free, we
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  Speaker 2: love you anyway. Just some background if you didn't hear
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  Speaker 2: the last episode, which you fucking better not have. If
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  Speaker 2: you're not paying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you better not be pirating.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you did, tell us where.
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  Speaker 3: Home taping is killing the record industry. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Home fucking is killing the porn industry.
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  Speaker 3: That's a good bumper sticker. We got to go back
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  Speaker 3: in time and get in on that dollar. That's what
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to do if I get the Montauk Project.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, take me back where? Milwaukee, 1978. I've got $ 1, 000
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  Speaker 3: to make.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money in 78.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, dude. I could buy myself a whole fucking
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  Speaker 3: big-ass boat of a car.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Would have paid your rent for a year, probably.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably could have, you know, gotten some sort of
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  Speaker 4: leisure suit, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Those were huge back then.
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  Speaker 3: For a good reason. They were good as shit.
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  Speaker 2: So this project, they had figured out, allegedly, by 1967,
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  Speaker 2: what went wrong with the Philadelphia Experiment and how to
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  Speaker 2: fix it. And they go to Congress... Because I should
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  Speaker 2: run through a little bit of that. The Philadelphia experiment,
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  Speaker 2: they were trying to make a ship invisible, the USS Eldridge.
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  Speaker 2: And allegedly, they made it invisible, but it also teleported
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  Speaker 2: to Virginia for a while, came back. There were dudes
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  Speaker 2: embedded in the walls. Yeah. Big fiasco.
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  Speaker 4: And what's the most unbelievable part is that it would
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  Speaker 4: just teleport to another body of water somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: If it really just teleported randomly, it'd probably phase you
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  Speaker 4: into a black hole somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: Or like downtown LA.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If you just Watchmen battleship dropped, that would be pretty
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  Speaker 4: fucking exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So they figure all of these glitches out, allegedly, and
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  Speaker 2: go to Congress. And they're like, hey, we figured it out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's keep working on this. And Congress, knowing what happened
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  Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia experiment, said no. They refused to fund
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  Speaker 2: it any further.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the people who had done all this work, coming
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  Speaker 2: up with basically a device that can control weather and
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  Speaker 2: moods at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That was the culmination of all this. The government tells
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  Speaker 2: them no. Shuts them down, as the government does.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to say, none of this sounds like
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  Speaker 4: anything that would happen in this situation. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the black budget researcher trying to refine his dangerous idea.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Congress going, whoa, sounds a little bit too gnarly for
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  Speaker 4: our blood.
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  Speaker 3: Very, very dubious. Right. Very, very dubious.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's what leads us to the Montauk Project. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a conspiracy theory that alleges there were a
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  Speaker 2: series of secret U.S. government projects conducted at Camp Hero
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  Speaker 2: or Montauk Air Force Station on Montauk, Long Island.
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  Speaker 3: Most unbelievable part is any sort of technology in Long Island.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that part is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit out there because I feel like they
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  Speaker 4: don't get any further than a Zoltar from Big Machine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's their, like, that's their god.
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  Speaker 2: At least it's not like Staten Island. That would be weirder.
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  Speaker 3: That would be weirder.
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  Speaker 2: I think. And the purpose was to develop psychological warfare
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  Speaker 2: techniques and research involving time travel. Montauk is the basis, allegedly,
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  Speaker 2: for the Netflix series Stranger Things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which I have not seen.
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  Speaker 2: The working title was Montauk. If they had kept it
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  Speaker 2: as Montauk, I might have watched it.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Montauk was that Jamaican AM radio show.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Montauk.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Montauk.
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  Speaker 3: Today on this show. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 2: I would listen to Montauk.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Montauk Radio. That would be a pretty good name
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  Speaker 4: for a conspiracy podcast. There are probably a few more
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  Speaker 4: scrolls down from us on the Uproxx Best Conspiracy Podcast
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  Speaker 4: article out now.
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  Speaker 2: Which we did not read except past the first, which
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  Speaker 2: has an adorable picture of Connor with my dog Winter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nice picture of you and Winter when I had
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  Speaker 3: my weird mohawk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's good.
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  Speaker 2: Appropriately, there is a fan sitting next to you trying
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  Speaker 2: to build a computer.
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  Speaker 3: I remember that moment. While I help and do nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. None of us helped.
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  Speaker 3: We've been coronated by the Kings, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So the story of the Montauk Project, and this is
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  Speaker 2: what makes it so suspicious. I kind of mentioned this
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  Speaker 2: last time, is a lot of the things alleged to
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  Speaker 2: be happening, or that did happen on Montauk in Long Island,
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  Speaker 2: comes from the Montauk Project book series by Preston Nichols.
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  Speaker 2: And Nichols claims to have recovered repressed memories of his
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  Speaker 2: involvement in experiments at Montauk and claims he is periodically
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  Speaker 2: abducted to continue his participation against his will. Immediate problem.
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  Speaker 2: The publisher of these books, which is skybooksusa.com.
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  Speaker 3: Sounds legit.
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  Speaker 2: Their tagline, where science fiction meets reality.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. All right. I like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the sources are repressed memories. So you
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  Speaker 4: open up the index and it's just like page 86,
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  Speaker 4: the interdimensional Cthulhu. That came from the nightmare I had
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  Speaker 4: after I ate all that mustard before bed.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm. yeah not the most reliable source i don't that
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  Speaker 2: i feel like the philadelphia experiment in general there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of i don't believe most of it.
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  Speaker 4: You know it's good i think it just stuck because
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  Speaker 4: it's so cool sound like all this all the shit
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  Speaker 4: that happens is so cool we're like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's just a fun one we don't need any
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  Speaker 3: sources and it.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds great the name the philadelphia experiment.
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  Speaker 4: It's just vague or it could be anything yeah yeah
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  Speaker 4: what is what are they doing in philly Are they
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: putting Lay's potato chips in the cheese steaks?
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  Speaker 3: I gotta know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I saw that movie when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid. Probably not. I just remember, because it
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  Speaker 2: came out in 84.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were eight, right?
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  Speaker 2: So I remember hearing it, and I've always been familiar
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  Speaker 2: with the name The Philadelphia Experiment.
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  Speaker 3: No, I had known about Montauk. I didn't really know
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  Speaker 3: about the precursors to it.
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  Speaker 2: You know where I first heard of Montauk?
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  Speaker 4: I was like that kid at the mall with the
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  Speaker 4: Green Day shirt who couldn't sing a Ramones song, you know?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have a fully balanced conspiracy diet as a
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  Speaker 4: young man.
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  Speaker 2: You know where I first heard of Montauk was, what's
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  Speaker 2: the Jim Carrey, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mountain?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What a great movie. Oh, yeah. One of my favorite movies.
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  Speaker 2: But they talk about Montauk in a very different way.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's that one scene.
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  Speaker 4: That was also a very good Jay Electronica mixtape where
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  Speaker 4: he raps over the score.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was his first project. It's haunting. Nice.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to hear someone be really good at
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  Speaker 4: something and really insane, go listen to that and get sad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, they present this stuff in the Montauk Project
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  Speaker 2: book series as, yeah, maybe it's real. Maybe it's not.
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  Speaker 2: You decide. They've never officially said the books are fact
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  Speaker 2: or fiction. Sidebar, are you familiar with the found footage
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  Speaker 2: movie UFO Abduction?
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  Speaker 3: I am not.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably the first found footage movie. It came out
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  Speaker 2: in the late 80s.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And it is just, like, 80s video camera footage of
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  Speaker 2: a girl's birthday party.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: And then they start seeing, like, lights flashing out in
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  Speaker 2: the woods. And then the last scene, aliens walk in. Yo.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the conspiracy theories around the time this
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  Speaker 2: came out was that it wasn't. It was actual found
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  Speaker 2: footage where- it was footage of an actual UFO abduction. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And when it got posted to the internet, the government
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  Speaker 2: was like, no, it's a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to release it as a movie.
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  Speaker 3: It's a crazy movie.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: That's like that cannibalism movie that was so real-looking that
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  Speaker 4: people got arrested.
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  Speaker 3: No, we just got good at special effects.
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  Speaker 2: You asshole.
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  Speaker 3: What the hell?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cannibal Holocaust, I think it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm way too squeamish. I couldn't watch it.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen it. UFO Abduction, you could watch, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why you would. It's a terrible movie.
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  Speaker 2: It's boring. It's very boring.
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  Speaker 4: I'll stick with my Elvis getting into a golf cart
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  Speaker 4: from faraway clips.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is kind of along the same lines
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  Speaker 2: as UFO abduction, where it's a thing that has been
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  Speaker 2: presented as not real, but people are still like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the book claims that the Montauk Project is an
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  Speaker 2: extension of the Philadelphia Experiment, which we talked about on
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  Speaker 2: the last episode. And that's how these two things tie together. Eventually,
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  Speaker 2: they come together as Project Phoenix 2. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: Project Phoenix a lot on the Philadelphia Experiment episode. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And basically when Project Phoenix went to Congress to get
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  Speaker 2: funding and Congress said no, the next move was to
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  Speaker 2: kind of bypass Congress and go directly to the military.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And just say, hey, you got that prescription pad?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and the military was all for it because
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  Speaker 2: this was, yeah. Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 3: No way.
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  Speaker 2: And they, they bypass Congress. They pitch the military, military
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  Speaker 2: officials directly. And the military agrees to set project Phoenix
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  Speaker 2: up in a secluded area to conduct the research and
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  Speaker 2: to provide the equipment and personnel needed to keep operating.
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  Speaker 2: And the location they settled on Montauk air force base.
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  Speaker 2: located within Fort Hero on Montauk Point, Long Island. It
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  Speaker 2: was isolated, it was out of use at the time,
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  Speaker 2: and it was fitted with a SAGE radar system, which
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  Speaker 2: the radio signals, I'm sure everyone already knows this, the
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  Speaker 2: radio signals required to get inside the human consciousness operate
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  Speaker 2: on the 425 to 450 megahertz range, and so does
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  Speaker 2: the SAGE radar.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the defrost chicken setting on the microwave?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, it's the pizza button.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I call the fat clits.
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  Speaker 2: And what this meant is because the Sage radar was
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  Speaker 2: already there but was an obsolete piece of military equipment,
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  Speaker 2: they could use it and no one would wonder why.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like if someone was like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to use this typewriter. I'm like, oh, I don't
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  Speaker 4: give a shit.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually for demons. He, he, he, he.
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  Speaker 2: And so they basically, as the story goes, convert the
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  Speaker 2: Sage radar into a big radio sonde, which we talked
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  Speaker 2: about last episode also. Yeah. Which is a device that
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  Speaker 2: is alleged to be able to send good and bad
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  Speaker 2: orgone energy to control weather and control moods.
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  Speaker 3: To test the coil for magic orgone energy. Right, yeah.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: So they get all this set up on Montauk, and
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the project takes on a new name, Phoenix. two which
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: sure that's a good sequel name.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah why not pretty by the book i mean they
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: did i mean they had to go to the military
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: so there were some budget cuts and that went to
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: the naming guy yeah.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: The way they got the money is one of the
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: craziest allegations in this story basically it's alleged that at
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: one point during world war ii we were transporting nazi
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: gold that we had taken by train through France. And
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: someone blew up that train, killed 51 American servicemen, and
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: made off with that gold. Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: It's like that Northern California armored truck robbery that the
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Nazis got all that funding from.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever heard of that.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: There was some big armored truck robbery by some white
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: power organization in NorCal back in the 90s.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I forget all the.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Details, but that basically funded the white power underground gang
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: network because they had $ 4 million liquid capital or whatever.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people tend to discount crime when it
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: comes into how certain entities make money. I was reading
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a thing the other day about North Korea. They have
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: stolen something like $ 570 million in cryptocurrency over the past
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: five years. Oh, yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: They just got like a little boiler room full of
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: people trying to find abandoned Ethereum wallets and just, you know.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: They just tricked a guy in Chile into basically giving
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: them access to that entire country's ATM network because he
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: thought he was doing a job interview and they were like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: download the software on your computer. That's how we send
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: you the application. It was literally called applicationpdf.exe. And he
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: was like, all right. And it was malware that just
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: gave them access to the entire computer system.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: That file name is like a Wile E. Coyote tunnel
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: painted onto a rock. What do you think was going
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: to happen? Nothing to see, hear, flowers.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And on his computer, his work computer, no less.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, of course. Well, you got it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: You take that to an internet cafe or something.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Also, you're applying for jobs on the job. That's not
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: exactly great.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, one of the allegations is that we're the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: ones who blew up that train because we wanted that gold,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: but we couldn't just take it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: No, because it's supposed to, you know, there's channels for
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: how it's distributed through Interpol or whatever.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: So we wanted it. So we blew up the train
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: and we took the gold.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Seems pretty easy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And that Nazi gold is what funded Project Montauk. Wow.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what brought in all that negative Oregon energy.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I got to figure.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: What I don't like about this theory is that means
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: we held on to that Nazi gold for like 20 years.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: We're saving this for when we really need some fucking
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: secret money.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think the government works that way. I
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: feel like we would have spent that shit almost right away.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking of my new Great Conspiracy of the Show character. Hi,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: this is Huell Hauser with Nazi gold. So you burn people.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: How does that work? So, yeah, that's one of the allegations.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And then also the Krupp family, which is a German
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: family that made munitions and weapons during World War II.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: They're still in business making all sorts of shit now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: What's this company again?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Krupp.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, Krupp.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Which I thought made coffee, but that's obviously a different company.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Well, it's one of these that were like during World
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: War II, like IBM made machine guns, you know?
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Right. It's like there's a bunch of weird shit like that. Yeah.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And after the Nazi gold money ran out, it's allegedly
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the Krupp family that kept this going. Because this starts,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Project Montauk starts in 1970. The Krupp family's the one,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: they all look like Eddie Murphy.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Meet the Krups.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And it ends in 1983 with a crazy, crazy experiment
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: that rips a hole in time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: You remember when that happened? Of course. Right before Chicken
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: McNuggets came out. Yes.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: That's how we got them. Between RoboCops 1 and 2,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: there was.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about some of the experiments they allegedly ran. First,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: they brought in various military and civilian personnel to work
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: on the project. A lot of them familiar with the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Sage radar system.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the outdated technology uses the base for the whole
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: orgone blasting.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And early in the project, it was noted that
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the general mood on the base would change according to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the frequency and pulse duration of the radar system.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: They were cycling.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And I've, in reading through this, I always, like, How
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: did they test that?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, everyone, like, they had those happy face, like,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: graphs where it's like, circle, which one are you feeling today?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Did someone just go through the crowd and, like, try
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: and make conversation, and everyone's like, shut up?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did they look at the Spotify numbers and see
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of streams for the Smiths?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I fucking love the Smiths.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, me too, man. They're like, yeah, seems as though
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: there's quite a bit of joy division going on around here.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: What's everyone all right? Should we have a meeting?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: So this prompts them to start experimenting with what frequencies
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: would bring out what responses in people. Of course, yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: And what they would do is they would put people
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in a room and they would direct the sage radar
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: at that room. And by altering the frequency and pulse
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of the radar, they could make a person laugh, cry, angry,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: or sleepy. And then the mood of the general base
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: would also change in accordance with.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Some of the background radiation. That's funny. Those are the
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: four main things you're trying to do to the enemy. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Trying to make them on their period.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Make them cry.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make them cry.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of interesting that they could dial it
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: in that specifically. Can we make it so it reactivates
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: his gambling problem?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: How finally can we tune it in?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And what do you do when you have a whole
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: team of the enemy crying? You can't like run in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and start arresting them because you're going to run in
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the direction of that beam also and you're going to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: start crying.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd have to get some sort of hazmat suit
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and bayonet them, you know, so you didn't accidentally catch bitch-itis.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Get in a Faraday cage. Yes.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Faraday cage.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: There's a callback.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: That's for the conspiracy BDSM people. So, yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: This all sounds fake to me.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Nothing about it seems super believable. I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I could believe that they thought they could do this
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: because they would just run with stupid ideas and throw
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: money at them, you know?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Like, I would buy that maybe they thought.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: They could, like, well, if we get it in maybe
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: 436 megahertz is the one that makes you shit your
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: pants and miss your dad, you know?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: That I could see, but the fact, like, them actually
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: doing it and pulling out of it, I'm like.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this, like, I used to always say about MKUltra, like, well,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: why did they keep going if it wasn't working? And
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: then on last episode, I talked about budgets and how
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes you just spend the money so you get it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: again next year.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, sure.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: And it's like, if you've got a cush gig just
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: giving people LSD and laughing at them, I mean, you
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: probably grow to love that job.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And it's way more comforting for me to think that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the government was just spinning its wheels that whole time.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Than actually hitting, like, fucking, like, researchable pay dirt with
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: any of these projects.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: That is more comforting to go, like, oh, they're just
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: wasting money. All of this fucking blood money they got
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: from the various concurrent wars.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: As opposed to actually learning how to, you know, make
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: people sad with a laser.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But at least Manchurian candidates aren't real.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But they are. Mm-hmm. So... Whatever the case, the next
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: step was to try and use the sage to control thoughts.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And they were allegedly able to do this as well,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: but there's not a ton of details on exactly how
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: they did that.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: There's no, there's no like, there's no, we misfiled these
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: papers and then they showed up here and they redacted that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: There could have been this. It's a lot of just.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: This is what they say it was, and who said it?
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know, the first guy with the fucking Angel
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Fire website, kind of, you know? It's all passed down
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: from the Angel Fire tomes.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: And maybe it's addressed in the Montauk Project book series,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: but there's like ten of those books.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like, who read all those? It's like
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Animorphs for guys that don't bathe.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: If you think we have enough of a following... For
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: me to put the time in to read ten books
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: to research one episode. Oh, no.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This ain't Dan Carlin. This is Wendy's.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We're going to have to be putting up fucking Marc
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Maron numbers before I'm doing that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't read ten books in the last five years. So,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you tell me what's going to happen there.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize I was signed up for Audible.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you got 500 credits you haven't used?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I had six credits and they emailed me today and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: were like, you can't keep that many credits at once,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: which why?
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this weird sort of like anti- Like I'm hoarding
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: them for the apocalypse.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like those.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Weird deflation monetary techniques they use where it was like
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: the older your money is, the less it's worth to
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: try to stimulate the economy. Like back in like, you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: like fucking like the 1800s or something.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: I think England did that where they're trying to get
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: like things moving up. It's very strange.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Because I've had the same.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I just downloaded a bunch of shit.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I've had the same fucking email with Audible.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, why?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I bought it, you fuck. I bought it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Stop. So it's worth noting that bathing people in microwave
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: radiation is super dangerous, which is something that anyone listening
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: to this. Whatever, Al.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We need more power.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Anyone listening to this would be like, no, they would
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: have just been giving people cancer and all those people
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: would be dead by now. The way this book series
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: addresses this is that some test subjects were baked. Not
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: baked like I am right now, but cooked. From the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: inside out by radio waves. And that's called burning radiation.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But what they found is that the back of this
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: radar emitted non-burning radiation, but it also worked in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: exact same way in that you could use it to
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: control thoughts. So that's convenient.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: This is literally the explanation they have is, well, what
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: if we put the batteries in backwards and now it's
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: a shrink ray? It's like SpongeBob Deus Ex Machina sort
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: of reasoning.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Turn it around, which even then turning it around, why
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: are beams going.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Why is it coming out the ass of it?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: There's nothing on the back that should be shooting beams out.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: There's an emitter on the front, and maybe, I mean,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: through reflection, it would bounce off a surface and go
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: behind it eventually.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: It's the nature of light and electricity and everything else,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: but why would it do that?
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: It's a very suspect detail that I feel like someone
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: added later on down the line when we learned more
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: about how radiation works. And someone was just like, no,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: that would kill everybody. Oh, okay, I got it. Yeah,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: just like... We turned it around.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Every time, like, well, actually, the Bible predicted global warming
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: because it mentions fire here. And it's like, well, or
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: are you just trying to make it seem better?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Right. So eventually, this testing, it's alleged, progressed to trying
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to control and influence large groups all at once, which
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: army units were brought in for R & R. which
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I think means rest and relaxation?
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Something like that? Yeah, I believe so, yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And they became test subjects, because who wouldn't want to
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: go hang out on Montauk Point in Long Island? I know.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe they have nice beaches. I don't know.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's honestly probably still one of the better
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: getaway spots in Long Island.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: At least there's stuff to do, like be burned inside.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: They also tested on people in New Jersey, New York,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and Connecticut, so that's fine.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get some of those wasps. You know those New
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Jersey wasps?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Programs were written that allegedly allowed for everything from creating
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: simple mood swings to increasing crime rates. inciting violence and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: causing mass panics and.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Are there no incidents that they can point to yeah
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they're not going to be like yo the la riots
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that was us you know i could take credit for
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: something but like you take a page out of isis's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: book here cia.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: And that seems like an easy thing to say. I'm
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: sure there have been mass panics that are in the news.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: They could just tie that. But you don't get any
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: of that with this. They're just like, it worked.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: And Lord knows, I mean, the population of New Jersey
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: isn't emotional and quick to act without thinking.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: There's so many things.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Any number of demolition derby shootings could have been attributed
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: to Montauk.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Was there a Springsteen album out that day?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: People are going to be fucking excited in New Jersey.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Baby, I was born to be radiated.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: So with that, once they figured out how to control crowds,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: they move on to making it more precise. And that's
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: when the Montauk chair becomes a thing. Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: This is what I read about. This was like the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: shit that fucking a young Conor McSpadden was into.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's... It's basically a guy sitting in a chair that
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is also a device of some sort.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: And if he focuses hard enough, he can see what's
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: happening at a remote location or possibly enter the consciousness
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of a person at another location and control their thoughts
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and movements.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: It's the being John Malkovich chair.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the version I read, which again was on
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: like a GeoCities Angel Fire page, was about how he
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: could just make whatever was in his imagination real.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: By sitting in the chair.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: That comes up also. It's basically what people say is
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: the ITT, Worldwide Communications Corporation, owned by the Krupp family,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: was able to turn this previous device... into a mind-reading
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and mind-control device.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Well, they did it straight on. They did it backwards.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: When you go sideways, it reads minds.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: It explodes your head if they point it directly at you.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: And then the other sideways is you get to be
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: the Ben 10 kid and pick what alien you want
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: to fight as.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And a Cray-1 supercomputer, I didn't even know they were
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: using that phrase back then, was used to turn that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: information into something a person could understand. It would read
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: an electromagnetic field and turn that into something a person
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: could read.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: It would translate it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Right. And some of the technology used to build this,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: of course, provided by aliens.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Where else are you going to get it?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Right. No longer anti-Semitic aliens, apparently.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: No, these are good, you know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: We gave them all that Nazi gold.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Globalist aliens that want everyone to get along.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Specifically, aliens from the star system Sirius, which is the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: same star system that beams new indie rock to my
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: car radio, which I really appreciate.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the star system where Howard Stern makes all
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: the hot four-tittied women just sit on Sibian machines in
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: zero gravity.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, this device was called the Montauk chair. A
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: psychically active person would be placed in the chair and
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it would allow them to beam their thoughts to a
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: remote location.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Like ventriloquism of the brain.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Some sort of mega mind Jeff Dunham.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And these were allegedly people who had undergone rigorous training
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: through the CIA to reach an altered form of consciousness.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to steal their personality against the terrors of radiational amplification.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Right. So a normal person couldn't just plop down in
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: the Montauk chair and start projecting their thoughts out to
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: other people.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I'd be too weak.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Don't even try it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I'd be too weak because the things that I would
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: be imagining would be like, what if a bald guy
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: was eating your pussy and you rubbed his bald spot
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: and the magic eight ball thing showed up and said,
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: try again later. And that would appear. And then I'd
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: go insane because of how funny I thought it was.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And they'd be like, no, we need some more.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: We need men made of sterner stuff than this McSpadden kid.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So this device allegedly focused on the primitive mind as
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: opposed to the conscious mind. It suppressed the conscious mind,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: made the primitive mind more active and The primitive mind
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: is highly suggestible, very controllable, and tends to act by
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: focusing all its power on a subject, allowing for much
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: greater displays of power than the conscious mind. Literally, that's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: how the secret works.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that just, you know, you're programming your caveman brain.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Your subconscious and your subconscious just brings all that shit
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to you.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Which is like, I guess that's the part of
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: the brain that you can manipulate. It's just a hungry, horny, sleepy,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: you know, corridor.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: That's not dealing with the esoteric nature of life and
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: death and all the stuff that we have the burden
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: of grappling with as more evolved forms of intelligence.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But how do you make a USB cable that
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: goes in there and makes monsters real? That's where you'd
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: lose me.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Right. Elon Musk is working on it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I hope so. I mean, I want to do something
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: fun in that super tunnel.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: So after realizing the Montauk chair worked... at least in
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: terms of beaming thoughts to other places, researchers move on
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to a new goal. They want to see if a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: person can create a solid object out of thin air
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: using only their thoughts. And I did not put the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: guy's name in the notes. Let me go find it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's when you can just imagine something and
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: just bewitched it, wiggle your nose into existence, which is like,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I guess with the most outlandish thing, just apparating physical
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: matter with your thoughts through some sort of.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: 1980s radio dish.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: You know, it seems like hacking into the Federal Reserve
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: with a Sega Genesis.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: It seems impossible, you know, just on sight.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Duncan Cameron is the name of the guy who allegedly
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: was psychically active and did most of the Montauk experiments
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: from the Montauk. There's the Mr. Wolf that called in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: when they needed the guy with the big brain.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: You know, to come clean up the experiment or the
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: science or whatever.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And one of the things he is alleged to have
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: been able to do was to create objects just by
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: thinking hard enough. And they talk about, like, buildings being created.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: And it's like, well, take a pic. It's like the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: 70s by now. Yeah. snap a pic yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: We had film we had all this shit you know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: You should be able to document all of these things.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: There should be a bunch of pictures of guys with
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: short sleeve white shirts and black ties with glasses and
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: flat tops going oh shit looks like we just became
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: god this is problematic.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Everyone's smoking yeah that's the main way to let people
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: know a workplace is a 70s workplace everyone's smoking.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah there's a set designer adam todd brown here no
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that is always the best is when you're like man
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: we were so good we could figure out how to
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: split an atom but we didn't know that inhaling fucking
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: fire all day it would be bad.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I'm old enough to have worked at a few places
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: where you could smoke at your.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Desk oh wow dude i did i had a telemarketing
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: job that was just in the perfect smoking job in
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: the back of a room of a like in the
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: back room of a storefront.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah you're like you're next to crates of oranges you know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: People fucking smoking like crazy it was such a nightmare.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Oh man that sounds awesome just making calls doing a
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: line every that's your sales bell every time you actually
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: move yeah you fucking.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah this guy was apparently able to create objects
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: out of thin air there was also the seeing eye
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: experiment in which a subject was given a lock of
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: hair or other object belonging to another person and if
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: they concentrated hard enough they'd be able to see and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: hear everything that person could see and hear no matter
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: where that person.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Was yeah so you can kind of hack the uh
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: the webcam zuckerberg style of their brain Right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And so naturally, the next step is going to be
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: time travel.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Like, where else do you go? Once you're sending thoughts
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: across the dimensions, you're going to try and surf that
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: wave and go fucking make some sports gambling money, whatever.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Get your parents to fuck. I love that recently there's
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: been a... debate breaking out online about the idea of
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: going back in time and killing baby hitler oh yeah because.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Ben shapiro made some sort of pro-life thing about it
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: and that's i saw baby hitler trending and i'm like
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: we got nothing better to talk about.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah which i do get it because i don't i'd
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: i'd maybe kill like teen hitler.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah but baby hitler would be a little that'd be like.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: How would you do it like you have to think
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: about all the.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Fucking i don't know big rock i guess.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It'll just be a baby there in front of you
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: yeah uh.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Put them Maybe you steal them and adopt them and
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: try to raise them good.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring them back.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Get them in art school. Enroll them in that fucking
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: thing where you just have to draw Tippy the Turtle.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: They'll take anybody.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That fucking.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: The Maury Povich Commercial Art College.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, if you can trace this tree, then you
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: can be Picasso.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I actually... I sent one of those in once. No,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: fuck yeah. In my 20s, in this traveling salesman... showed up.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: He had to be like 70 years old. Oh, sad.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I almost did it because I assume you do learn
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: some decent stuff about drawing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sure you do.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: But it was like $ 150 a month and I did
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: not have that at that time. This was like late 90s.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I also sent one in when I was 8.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And they were like, you're eight.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Keep it up, Slugger.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: They send you that note that's supposed to go in
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: the back of your book about all your success later
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: on or whatever.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Because they would, when you sent those in, they would
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: actually give you notes and send it back to you. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: They were like, you're eight. You can't enroll. But also, like,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: your shading here was off. It's like, fuck you, I'm eight.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Hey, remember where the light's coming from?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Coming out of my ass.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I don't even know fractions yet, dick.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So with the Montauk chair... They eventually turn it into
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: a time travel device.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: As the story goes.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And subjects were able to open portals to any point
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: in history just by concentrating on the date they wanted
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: to go to.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Which again, if that's your like fucking GPS is just
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: thinking really hard about March 7th, 1955, that seems improbable.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Right. And with that, the project becomes Phoenix three. I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: think they pushed the franchise one too far, if I'm
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: being honest.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bill and Ted's excellent teleportation adventure.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And from 1981 to 1983, the project focuses solely on
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: exploring time itself.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of meat on the bone there. You
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: could probably cover all the time in two years.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Researchers kidnapped large numbers of homeless people as test subjects.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Now, this part I believe. Yeah, that. This is right
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: out of the playbook.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And if the next sentence was, that's why deinstitutionalization happened,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: because we needed this crop of homeless people that we could...
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: focus on this project.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Hey Reagan, could you free up some crazies?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I would 100% agree that that's probably what happened.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Can you cook the books a little bit on human
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: suffering so we can make a space chair?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Well, okay.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: I'm Ronald Reagan and I'm in hell and I'm here
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: to tell you about bacon.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: And crack.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Nothing tastes better than bacon.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: So the researchers kidnap all these people and just send
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: them through time travel ports.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Imagine being homeless and then all of a sudden your
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: fucking Cleopatra has a scimitar at your throat.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: And where did you get these garments you're wearing? And
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: he's good, but banana potato. He can't even talk to
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: anyone in his time.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: But how many times have we read stories about a
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: homeless dude who gets arrested and police are like, he
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: said he was here from the year 2044.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I know it makes you think like, is, are they,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: were we just Montauk and them all over the place?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Canaries in the coal mine of fucking time.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: If they returned, they were to report on what they saw.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Most of them did not return.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, no way.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So you're just stuck in a different time as a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: homeless person, possibly in a time where they're like, what's
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a homeless person?
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: No, you have to go to the only time it's
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: worse to be a homeless person, the past. Second worst
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: place is right now. Third worst place, fucking Magna Carta, England.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: It's also claimed that large numbers of children, all males
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: between the age of 10 and 16, and all with
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: stereotypical Aryan traits, were sent to the year 6037 A.D.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to investigate a ruined city and, more specifically, a horse
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: statue that was there that's got to be Denver.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Got to be.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: There's no other place. That has to be.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: That's probably one of the biggest statues of a horse
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: in the world, for sure.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: And how comforting is that? That it's not till like 6,000
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that we have to go fucking look into that thing?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, like the idea that we still, if the
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: cities are crumbling at 4,000 years, that's a pretty good
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: run for us.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did all right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: But that's got, yeah, that's got to be Denver. That's
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: got to be War Horse. Good for you, War Horse.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Still standing in 6037.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Why didn't that thing collapse?
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, fucking, we're talking superior conspiracy engineering.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So let's talk about the end of the Montauk Project.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: It finally ended August 12th, 1983.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: When Yoko came around.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Which you'll note is August 12th is the date that
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the original Philadelphia experiment happened in 1943.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so they're into just clean 40-year anniversaries.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Like the Sgt. Pepper reissue 20 years ago today.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And on that date, a portal was opened that connected
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Montauk Base with the USS Eldridge 40 years in the
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: past during the original Philadelphia experiment.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And for some reason, it's at this point that people
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: working on the project became uncomfortable with its goals and
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: decided to throw a wrench in the gears. I can't
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: believe this story is about to get crazier. Oh, yeah. Like,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: we're almost done. We've covered so much crazy shit, and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: it's just about to get crazy.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: We've already reached Ender's Game 5, even more homophobic edition.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Now it's like, where do we go? How do you escalate?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: But they do it.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: So when this wormhole opens to the original Philadelphia experiment,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: someone on the base decides this is too much. We
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: have to shut it down. And the way they do
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: that is to whisper some unknown phrase into the ear
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: of Duncan Cameron, who is the one who had opened
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: this portal. And this code phrase caused Cameron to release
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: a monster from his subconscious. Yep. The creature, named the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Beast from the Id, materialized as a large, hairy monster
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that smashed its way around the base and ate everything
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: in its path.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: Now, if you can imagine 12-year-old me reading this and going,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: it has to be true. And at this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Point, project members start cutting cables and conduits in an
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: attempt to sever power to the base and shut down
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the project.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I remember sending this exact story to this girl I
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: liked that I was emailing with. And she's like, what
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: are you doing over the summer? I was like, I've
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: been reading about this. No idea that that's not what
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: you sent to a girl you like.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And so once they're able to shut everything down, apparently
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the monster disappears. I guess that was.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: It goes back to the land of Id. Sure.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: And a year later, a team of black berets, which
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that just sounds ominous. Oh, yeah. We know the green
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: berets are the ones we always think of as the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: good guys. What do the black berets do?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Secret shit like this.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: They're like fucking Section 31 in Star Trek. They do
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: all the sketchy shit.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Right. And they were sent into the Montauk base with
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: orders to shoot anything that moved. After that, they cleared
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: the base.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, this was after the Furby craze, and it led
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: to a lot of accidental deaths.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: A second team moved in to remove any equipment deemed
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: too sensitive to abandon. The underground chambers were sealed and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: eventually filled with cement. Base was abandoned and donated to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the state of New York as a park.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember the website that I was reading
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: back in the day was about this guy who's like,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: I went hiking there, and I wish I had my camera,
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: but I swear to God, three black helicopters start hovering
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: right above me, and I start running away.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, whoa.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you take your camera, though?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, man, I wish that guy had
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: his camera, because that's definitely real.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, this is... I feel like most of the
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: information out of the last two episodes is mostly made up.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: It feels that way. It feels.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: dubious to even call it information.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Most of the.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: It's fan fiction. This is government fan fiction. But it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: fucking cool. That would be cool.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we know the Montauk base is real.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: It's out there.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but is this what happened? Did they try to
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: do it? The most I would believe is that they
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: tried to do this. Some dumb shit thought they could
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: do this.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wouldn't doubt that we have some of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: our radar dodging technology that we have now. out of
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: experiments like this, but.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. There's all kinds of stuff with that. That's
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: all very real. Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But the time travel thing, the Montauk chair, it just
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: all sounds a little crazy. Yeah.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Just bringing things into being that.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's just stuff that I like, I don't
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: think you can do that with a, you know, a
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: computer as powerful as, you know, a fucking dreamcast. I
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: think you got to have something a little bit stronger.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Like I, I just don't think like, you know, there's
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: certain things where it's like, oh, we're definitely way further along,
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: but it's like, If you could do this.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Back then, some guy.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: with a raspberry pie and a neck beard would have
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: figured it out now.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Right. We'd have a version of it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: For sure.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what the 3D printer is.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you'd be able to bit torrent some sort of
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: teleportation mod for your Steam account or something.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: What if every 3D printer is connected to some fucking
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: dude sitting in a Montauk chair who's just like, no!
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Just shitting out little fucking Tamagotchi trinkets.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Fucking printing out Homer Simpson statues and shit.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: He just farts and then some guys are gone. You're like, oh, okay.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: I guess that's where it comes from.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: So that's the Montauk Project and the Philadelphia Experiment. That's
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: our episode.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a fun one.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: I like the ones that aren't real so you don't
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: have to feel too terrified.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Right. It doesn't make me afraid to walk outside.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't make me afraid of dust reading my
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: mind like some of our other shows.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is a free episode. Don't forget you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: can get bonus episodes on Patreon.com slash Unpops. Just $ 5
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: a month, you get bonus episodes of this.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: And I believe that gives you access to about 95
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: hours a day of shows.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good. It's the best deal on Patreon, I
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: would say.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: We crank it out.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: That's for goddamn sure. And come to the Unpops Live
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: stand-up show every last Saturday of the month at Hollywood Hotel.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: We haven't booked the February show yet, but we will.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Get off our dick.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. We got fucking, we got chairs to investigate.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Connor, what do you have to plug?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, if you want to see me coming up
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: on the road February 6th, Laughs Unlimited in Sacramento. By
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the way, tickets for all these shows are on my
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: website at conorexpand.com. I met some cool Mean Boys and
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Pops listeners last time I was up there. And I
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: always bring people presents if they come see me or whatever.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I give them little goodies.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah?
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: That sweetens the deal. And I do like to meet people.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: It's fun.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: So I'll be there. I'll be at the Comedy Palace
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: in San Diego the 8th and the 9th. If you
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: want to come say hi down in SD, Reno. At
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: the Reno Tahoe Underground Comedy something or other, March 14th
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: through the 16th. And then a big old Mean Boys
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: tour all through the South. Me, Keith Carey, and Tom
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Goss going to Houston, Austin, Dallas, Kansas City, St. Louis, Nashville, Atlanta,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: and Orlando. So tickets for those will be up on meanboyspodcast.com.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And come see the show. It's fun. We always have
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: a big party afterwards. We get the dominatrixes there. At
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: some point, we've got to tase Tom for this new
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: iTunes review gold challenge.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Someone sent us a taser in the mail already. So
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: that'll be a whole big fun party if you want
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: to come check it out.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Connor,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: say goodbye.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Goodbye, everybody. People of Earth, your planet is about to
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: be destroyed.