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Liberal vs. Nationalist: Immigration, Israel, and Guns Debating Matthew Finnymore from Jubilee #4 · America Unfiltered With James P

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  How we doing, everybody? America, We are back, baby.
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  I got my buddy Matt on. I've had him on a few times
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  before. We're going to talk, we're going
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  to debate, we're going to just shoot the shit a little bit
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  today. You guys have met him before,
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  but this is Matthew Finney, more Orlando's finest.
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  He debated me on Jubilee. If you got anything to say
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  before we go into stuff, feel free.
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  Dude, well I'm I'm glad to be back.
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  Ignore my cat. She's eating and drinking water.
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  This is her like food place and then I moved the because I think
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  I talked about it before. Her bathroom is over here now in
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  this corner. I'm keeping it as far away as
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  possible. I got my dog literally sleeping
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  right at my hell yeah dude, so I get it, yeah.
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  And we finally finished the wall, which I and we already
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  talked about offline, but we finally finished the wall up,
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  which is awesome. I think we want to do some like
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  painting on the walls too, like maybe like change up the
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  colouring a little bit, make it kind of matchy.
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  I don't know. We're, we're, we're.
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  Sofing I like how the panels look a lot right.
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  Last time when we were filming, we were filming the we did the
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  reaction thing, but it got copied, copyrighted literally
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  within two hours. It's one of the most insane
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  things. The Jubilee video.
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  Yeah, I know. So that was the last time I saw
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  the panels. Huge upgrade from there to now.
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  Yeah, 100%. And I, and I love it.
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  I love it. And my connection's like going
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  back and forth, ignore that. But no, it was, it was awesome.
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  I'm like, I, I, I would love what I, that's how the setup
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  looks. And I'm just ready to like add
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  stuff to the wall now. What?
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  So what's been going on recently for you with politics?
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  Like, have you been doing a lot of TikTok stuff, streaming
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  stuff, or have you been just kind of doing like the gaming
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  streams recently? I mean, just jumping into the
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  baits a lot left, right and centre, you know, just been
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  listening to a lot of people just talking about some stuff
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  like this, especially over the past like this month and last
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  month, especially this month, it has just been nothing but just
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  insane vitriol. I think.
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  I think the problem, I mean, we're going to talk about it,
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  but like, you know, right, right.
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  You know, it's it's unfortunate what happened with Charlie.
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  Rest in peace with Charlie. I'm sorry that his his kids are
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  not going to have his father. Unfortunately sad that Erica's
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  not going to have her husband. But I mean it.
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  The the biggest problem I had was just the the the immediate
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  Viper grip that people like Nancy Mace and even though our
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  president had was like, why are we jumping to conclusions?
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  But we don't even have like his body's not even cold yet.
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  Like he's not even in the ground yet.
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  And like the even like the FBI, they used to have no idea.
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  They had no idea what was happening.
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  They were still looking for the fucking dude.
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  And so, you know, like starting with that vitriol, I think was
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  just, it was, it was not the right call in my opinion.
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  Yeah, I, I think there was a lot of weird mixed reactions.
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  There was a lot of people like first thing I, I took a day when
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  I did it, I, I was going to do a stream that day, but I was like,
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  I'm going to take a day. So I took a day.
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  I didn't, I don't even think I tweeted anything.
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  I barely went on my phone or talked to anybody.
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  But then after the first thing I did, like similar to what Nick
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  Fuentes did as well, was I just said like, this is not the time
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  for retaliations. This is not the time to like
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  Andrew Tate was tweeting out civil war.
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  You had all these people tweeting stuff out like that.
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  And it's like I, I really understood the feeling like I
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  kind of felt it inside a little bit.
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  I like, I understood the feeling of like, like I've watched
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  Charlie since I was 18 years old or so.
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  So like the idea of like seeing him die in such a kind of really
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  just brutal way. Like it was not to get graphic,
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  but you know, we all saw the video to see that, like, it
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  instantly gave you this feeling of like, holy shit, we're under
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  attack. But then that's again, why I
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  took the day. So it was like, you got to
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  present the right message. And the right message is never
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  violence. You know, there is such a spike
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  in political violence. And what we need to do is we
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  need to communicate more. You know, that's the we need to
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  pray. We need to communicate more.
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  We need to put down our weapons. And I my phrase they said on my
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  show was put down your weapons, pick up your rosaries and
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  bottles. Yeah, that's good.
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  Find a way to, you know, make some light of the terrible
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  situation we're dealing with. So, yeah, I think it was a
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  really tragic attack. And I mean, beyond that, just
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  the FB is incompetence. I think we'll definitely agree
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  on that. Cash Patel seems to be one of
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  the worst fucking heads at the FBI we've ever seen.
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  He he fucked up Epstein. He fucked up this Charlie Kirk
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  investigation. He is.
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  We're probably not going to lie on our views on the Obama stuff,
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  but he fucked up the Obama stuff.
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  To me, he fucked up pretty much every major case he's handled.
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  I mean, even if he didn't like, even if he didn't fuck up on the
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  Obama thing, like would you still trust him even after
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  Epstein and this And like so, so he's already muddied the waters
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  to the point where if you try to get a clean glass of water from
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  the mud, you're you're it's you have no idea.
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  You have no idea if it's legit or not.
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  So Cash Patel completely ruining this whole investigation,
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  starting it off in the way that he did is is atrocious.
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  And I, when I got the message of what happened to Charlie, I was
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  in Michigan with my family and I immediately saw what my
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  girlfriend sent me. And I was like, wait, what?
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  And I was like, I give me like 2 minutes because I had to look
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  this up. And it, it horrendous,
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  horrendous thing that happens that, that not only that, like
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  the, the kids that were in fear for their lives too.
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  Like you're at a, you're in a college campus, you're out in
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  the middle of the in the open. Some someone who's a strong, you
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  know, political commentator gets shot and killed right in front
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  of you. You think, Oh my God, this guy's
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  probably going to keep going. Like you have no idea what to do
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  at that point. So I can only imagine what
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  happened. It was going to the minds of
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  those kids. Like my I had a friend of mine
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  who was in the Vegas shooting. She was a she's still suffering
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  from PTSD to this day from it. And it's that one I still think
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  is a very weird weird. Crazy like.
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  The Vegas 1 is the weirdest one to me.
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  Full amount of like what? Duffel bags and luggage.
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  Just taking it up to the. 32 guns, like 6000 rounds of ammo
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  or something. It was like 32 rifles.
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  Not even just. Guns.
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  Bomb stocks. And I mean, I'm a gun owner.
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  That's that's a lot to carry. I mean, that's an insane amount
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  to carry. So it's like, I don't know, a
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  lot of these things are super weird to me.
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  And like, I know Dan Bilzerian, we probably don't have the same
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  views on him, but I know he he was there as well.
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  And he has a crazy video that's still on YouTube to this day of
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  the hotel, the floor that they said the shots were coming from.
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  The shots were not coming from, it was coming from somewhere
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  else. And you can see it in his video.
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  But they never invested. Yeah, it's, it's, it's like I, I
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  will admit it like because I have, I, I haven't seen videos
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  of that. I will not look at videos of
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  that because I just keep picturing my friend's head and
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  it and it's just like or, or, or, or my friends facing it.
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  And so I don't want to look at the video.
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  But what I will say is that like it, it's the, it's the insanity
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  that just comes with it, right. Like why is this guy carrying 30
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  plus guns, 30,000 rounds? And like the, the, the violence
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  that she wanted to enact, he was able to enact without question.
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  What, what are we, what are we doing with our, with these
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  hotels? Like that's why at a place that
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  I work at, I'm not going to disclose it to you or to the, to
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  the public, But but the job that I work at, like any person that
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  comes in and just even you think for microcosm that they're
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  suspicious and you and you think that they're up to no good.
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  Like you immediately tell not only your leadership, but you
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  also tell the security team like, Hey, watch this guy, this
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  guy I don't feel good about. Luckily I haven't seen anything
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  when you. See a guy carrying 32 duffel
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  bags up to a room, That's where I I just think the entire thing
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  was either financed by some weird group or person or I think
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  it was some Intel agency. Might, maybe.
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  It was definitely one of the biggest American trap.
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  I think it's still close to this day either the number one or #2
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  shooting casualty wise in American history.
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  I think that one's number one and then pulse is number 2,
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  yeah. I was gonna say, I know it's
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  between that and Pulse. Because I think it was like
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  roughly. Both crazy.
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  It's like roughly. 5060, it was like 5050, sixty, 50-60 people
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  dead. And then like I think.
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  It was like 58 or something. It's a crazy number, hundreds
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  injured, but like it. It made me think of stuff like
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  that. It made me think of what
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  happened to Melissa Hortman. It made me think of what
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  happened to like, you know, important figures that, you
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  know, got shot and killed either through like, because they were
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  promoting peace or they were promoting, you know, whatever
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  the rhetoric was. But like to for the FBI and for
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  the president and even someone like Nancy Mace, someone in
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  Congress, our own president saying things like we are being
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  attacked by the fascist left and like and like immediately
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  putting a political spin on it. It immediately villainizes
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  people that one, we're not a part of it and also two, that
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  that were not wanting this to happen.
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  You know, like I me personally, I did not want it to happen.
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  I wanted to actually debate the guy.
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  I actually wanted to talk to him and be like, why do you think
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  the way that? You've told me that.
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  Yeah, like, because, because, like, yeah, because I've always
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  believed this. Like the the, the the battles of
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  ideas is through words and through and through and through
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  writing and through videos, not through violence.
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  Because if you start to make someone, you know, if you kill
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  him for an example, Fox News will turn him into a martyr,
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  which they did. They were immediately calling
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  him a martyr the day of his death.
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  And and what's the fuck? I just watched the video.
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  Jesse Watters or whatever was like, we're at work.
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  They want war with us. They don't want who wants war
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  with the other side? I don't want, do you?
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  Yeah, I, I think when they speak like that, they're, they're
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  speaking slightly too candidly. I, I, I understand their
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  messaging a little bit. Like I think the assumption that
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  the shot came from the left is a slightly fair assumption,
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  although I don't agree with like the wording of how they like
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  when they're saying we're at war with the left in the ways
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  they're saying it with no other context, it could come off very
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  destructive. That was one of the reasons,
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  like I said, I kind of like took a day after to try and figure
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  out how I was going to present this, my wording, all that
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  because it's it's a crazy delicate situation where all all
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  you need is 1 schizophrenic to hear the wrong thing on TV for
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  him to go commit. The next.
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  There's a guy and that's all you need for it to happen.
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  It it just takes one person saying one sentence on TV in the
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  wrong context and instantly like that someone's going to take
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  that as, oh, we're now at war. I'm going to go do this.
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  So I I really agree that the the war messaging was terrible
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  because it already happened. Somebody in Texas, you can pull
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  this up. A guy in Texas, allegedly.
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  I'm not going to say it's true or not, but allegedly was
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  writing up messages to his friend, seeing seeing a pride
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  parade and saying fuck this, we're going to go and kill these
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  guys. And this is for this is what
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  they get for Charlie Kirk. And like, they arrested him off
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  of those messages and it's like. That's good there, right, right.
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  Nobody should nobody should ever die for their no one.
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  I mean, that's no one should die because of one of the craziest.
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  No one should die because and you know me like I'm a free
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  speech absolutist. I believe people should be able
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  to like there are consequences to your actions when it comes to
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  your job and your family, things like that, friends socially,
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  maybe, but I'm a believer that you should be able to say
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  anything short of I want to kill this person.
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  I'm going to kill this person. I'm going to do this at
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  atrocious act like as long as it's not a call for violence.
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  I, you know, it's not, I don't care what you say, but it's like
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  I, I don't view it as anything too negative.
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  And This is why, This is why I, I, I always, I'm always going to
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  say this to you. I don't think that you're any
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  sort of nationalist anything. You're a patriot through and
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  through. I swear to God, you.
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  Well, I would say I'm a nationalist because I want
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  America to be an independent state for sure.
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  Which which I can. I want America to work very
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  independently. Yeah, I I just don't.
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  But like I but you would agree that like a little bit of
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  diplomacy still would help with the country like we're like
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  working with. Yeah, I mean, my national stance
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  isn't wanting to like force people into my views.
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  It's more just like when I say like I'm a Christian or American
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  nationalist, how I view it is it's more like I don't to start
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  with the Christian part. It's like I don't want everyone
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  to have to go to church. I don't want everyone to have to
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  be super religious. All I want is that we have the,
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  the framework of what kind of God intends and what our
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  founders intended to be our laws like don't murder, don't steal,
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  like don't do like the major things it says.
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  Like that should be the framework we we kind of rely
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  around. And if we got back to stricter
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  punishment surrounding those like terrible things that it
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  says are the worst. I think that's where my
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  positions come from a little bit with that.
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  I do think that we have a, a weird time in our country with
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  religion as well. I mean, beyond just all the like
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  the, you know, the kind of so-called beef you have between
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  like Christians, Jewish people and Muslims within America right
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  now. There's also a weird thing
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  that's happening where our generation is the first
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  generation in American history to be more religious than our
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  parents for the first time ever. So there's more people our age
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  going to church than people our parents age, which is a really
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  crazy thing to me. And it's a, in my opinion,
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  really positive thing. You know, I think more people
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  should, like I said, I think more people should have
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  religious affiliations. I don't think it's like a
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  necessary requirement, but I think it's positive for the
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  mind. And I think it's almost a form
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  of meditation as well when you are praying to whatever God you
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  are praying to. Which I can understand, you
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  know, and, and, and that's a good thing that we can
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  absolutely debate on. Like I don't, I don't have a
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  concern with that whatsoever. But that's why I think that you
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  are like what? Because I don't think
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  nationalist would be the word that you use.
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  That's why I keep saying like, I think patriot is the perfect
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  word for you because from when you, when you see like what a
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  nationalist does, it's pure isolation.
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  Whereas like you want a more isolated like country, but you
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  want something that you can still kind of like work with
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  other countries, makes good some good deals and you'll be able to
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  kind of help out with it. But you still want to focus on
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  us. But but but I guess to the point
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  that I'm trying to make. I'm definitely open a trade.
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  I just don't want to, I, I'm someone who, this is going to
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  sound wild to you, I'm sure, but I'm someone who I want to shut
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  down. Obviously all illegal
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  immigration. We found that out on Jubilee.
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  I want to shut down legal immigration as well, but I only
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  want to accept immigrants from countries that that move America
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  forward currently. So the way I look at it is the
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  job markets awful. We're not paid enough.
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  A lot of companies, specifically tech companies, truck driving
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  companies would pay a lot more if they were paying American
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  born citizens because American born citizens would demand more
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  and the influx in the foreign labor lowers the overall wage
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  pool for everyone else because they realize.
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  Why would I pay an American 80K when I can pay an H1B visa
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  immigrant from, I don't know, like India per SE.
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  That's one of the I think it's like 70% of H1 BS.
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  But why would I pay them 80K when I could pay an H1B visa
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  from India 50K or like having? Incentives to pick an American
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  first before somebody overseas. I can I can see like the
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  essential because. There is a law that requires
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  them to try and fill the position with an American, but
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  like a crazy loophole they uses, they'll put it in like the fine
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  print in the back of like the ad book and like the tiniest font
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  ever, you know, unreadable practically.
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  And then obviously they get no applicants.
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  And then when they do, they're like, oh, I guess we have to go
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  hire foreign labour. I would, I would.
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  And I just. I would definitely go, I would
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  definitely be like in support of like, hey, we're going to make
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  an incentive for you. If you hire somebody that is an
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  American over somebody who is from, from London as an example,
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  we're going to give you like an extra amount for your, you know,
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  your licensing or something. We'll reduce the fees or we'll
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  add something to like a bond or or whatever.
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  Like we start finding ways to give them revenue or financial
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  incentives to hire American workers over someone who that
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  they can get from Italy or like Germany or something.
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  Like I would be OK with something like that being
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  implemented, but like. And there are certain things
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  that Americans can't do or don't know how to do yet.
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  And we do need to bring people from other countries.
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  Like I said, I'm not like a billion per, I'm not a million
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  or 100% opposed to legal immigration in all ways.
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  I just the only reason I would want it to happen, at least for
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  the time being, is to benefit Americans.
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  Just because I look at America from a Gen.
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  Z lens of you know, where the first generation decides.
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  Like I said the religious thing but we're the first generation
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  also not be to to not be taken care of by previous generations.
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  Every other generation before has had a lot.
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  Like my grandparents bought their house for $34,000.
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  Yeah, and even millennials are still suffering too, like Gen.
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  Z and millennials are just I was.
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  Oh yeah, like millennials, Gen. Z and anything under just got
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  absolutely fucked in my opinion. Just got the, got the blue.
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  Fucking falling. But I the, the, the, the, the
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  point that I was making was that like, you're, you're right, we
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  should like, because of the villainization that happened
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  over this one specific situation, you already have
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  people that are wanting to use that and weaponize it and, and
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  use it for their advantage. Like I wouldn't, and this is
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  just coming from me. I'm, I'm excited to hear what
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  you're going to say about this, but I wouldn't want my memorial
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  to have a voter registration booth at all at my fucking
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  memorial when I'm dead. And I don't want my wife to be
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  treated like some fucking WWE star and being like, you know
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  what, we're going. To pyrotechnics woman out of the
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  fucking. Ground chewing like like this is
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  a this is a time where she's she's mourning the loss of her
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  husband and her children's father.
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  I have a different theory on that one, and I don't think
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  she's mourning that. Hard.
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  I mean, there, there's I, I saw the theories of like she's
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  mourning, but like, not mourning, but like.
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  I think she was his handler. Oh.
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  That's that's an interesting theory we can get into.
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  But like, like her saying I he, he would forgive, God would
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  forgive. I forgive.
• 18:24
  I don't think we should treat our enemies like this.
• 18:27
  And then the president saying I hate my enemies and I want
• 18:31
  nothing but the but the worst for them.
• 18:34
  And but but but two weeks prior, you were saying things like on
• 18:37
  it. By the way, the video that he
• 18:39
  posted about the the the announcement.
• 18:41
  Did you see like how almost like it's AI?
• 18:46
  Oh yeah, that was his little hand.
• 18:48
  Why are you faking? Like goes like that with his
• 18:51
  hand. Glitch like why that?
• 18:53
  Was this video worse than the Biden edits they used?
• 18:56
  To right, right dude, the the auto pen like the auto pen or
• 19:00
  the AI video? Which one?
• 19:01
  Like what are we doing? It was worse than any of the
• 19:04
  Biden edits. I mean, I'll give you that one.
• 19:06
  That was a bad bad like this. What was even worse was the next
• 19:09
  day, like literally the day after he's killed, they Trump's
• 19:13
  having a interview on the White House lawn and they're like, so
• 19:18
  how are you dealing with? How are you feeling?
• 19:20
  How are you dealing with it? And he goes, I think I'm
• 19:21
  dealing. I think I'm doing just fine.
• 19:23
  Look over there though. There's a bunch of trucks.
• 19:25
  They're building the new ballroom.
• 19:27
  And it's like, dude, like, are you fucking hitting me like this
• 19:30
  country for? 45 minutes at a salute for
• 19:34
  soldiers he's never met before, watching their caskets come off
• 19:38
  of a giant fucking plane when they died and like there's.
• 19:43
  Yeah, I mean, I don't love Obama, but that was very
• 19:45
  respectable. I was.
• 19:46
  Just saying like, I don't like his views, I don't like his
• 19:49
  opinions, I don't like how he's policing our government.
• 19:52
  But he sat there, a crystal salute for 45 minutes.
• 19:56
  He honored our dead soldiers more than any other president.
• 20:00
  Like just optics alone. Just optics alone.
• 20:04
  The president being like, Oh yeah, like I feel OK, but look
• 20:06
  at this fucking 60 foot tall gold statue and.
• 20:10
  He's talking about something where he's wasting taxpayer
• 20:12
  dollars here. They're spending 150 like
• 20:14
  million on this ballroom. And that.
• 20:16
  Money, it's like. That money could go to like,
• 20:19
  like, like a mental institution. That money could go to schools,
• 20:22
  That money could go to a state that needs it the most because
• 20:25
  their infrastructure is fucking falling apart.
• 20:26
  Like all of that money could be used to go back into your
• 20:30
  pockets, to go back into your paycheck.
• 20:32
  Like, that's something that I found absolutely abhorrent.
• 20:36
  The administration is just handling this so poorly, and he
• 20:41
  doesn't understand what's happening right now because it's
• 20:44
  not just the Texas guy. The Texas guy is just one of
• 20:47
  potentially many people that will use his death, Charlie
• 20:51
  Kirk's death, for violence. And that's scary to think about.
• 20:57
  Like I would yeah, there's, I mean, there's a lot of like
• 21:00
  really weird like on the right and the left.
• 21:03
  There's a lot of like, like you were saying the Texas example
• 21:06
  and then I've seen plenty of other examples.
• 21:07
  I mean, I Andrew Tate tweeted out Civil war.
• 21:10
  You know, there were people on Fox News saying like this is war
• 21:14
  there. There was a lot of weird
• 21:15
  messaging from the left of stuff I saw that I didn't really love
• 21:19
  was specifically. I'm sure there was more beyond
• 21:22
  this, but from Destiny and Hassan Piker, I think Hassan
• 21:25
  Piker almost needs to again, I'll support anyone's right to,
• 21:30
  like I said, say anything. But the second it crosses into
• 21:32
  violence is where you got to start.
• 21:35
  Well, you got to really slow down.
• 21:37
  And like Hassan Piker was the guy saying like these people
• 21:40
  should feel like they these people should not feel safe at
• 21:44
  these events. They should feel like there is a
• 21:46
  threat. And that itself is like a scary,
• 21:48
  I don't know, when you're speaking to a lot of really
• 21:51
  young people, you have an obligation to, again, not
• 21:56
  everything you say has to be perfect or edited or polished,
• 21:59
  but you have an obligation to at least push these people down a
• 22:02
  non violent path. And at a point it's like, what?
• 22:06
  What's the difference between a mob boss ordering a low level
• 22:09
  soldier to kill somebody and like a streamer saying like this
• 22:12
  is fucking war, pick up your weapons or like these people
• 22:14
  shouldn't feel safe. And then someone goes and does
• 22:17
  something like there's not a huge difference to me in that.
• 22:19
  And like those guys would get the Rico.
• 22:21
  Chart. Yeah, because like influences.
• 22:22
  And I'm not saying Hassan should get Recode, but influences,
• 22:25
  Yeah, What I'm saying it's like, yeah.
• 22:26
  You're right, because influence is such a powerful tool,
• 22:30
  influence from someone that's like a Nick Fuentes as
• 22:33
  individual or the president or like AOC and Destiny or Hassan.
• 22:41
  And it like like we can go down the list.
• 22:43
  You're absolutely right. But their influence is
• 22:46
  important. And so I like I agree with you,
• 22:48
  like that kind of rhetoric is wild.
• 22:49
  Like I wouldn't have said something like that if I was in
• 22:52
  their positions. I'd be saying things like we
• 22:54
  need to hold these these position these people in
• 22:57
  government accountable. We should not put we should not
• 23:01
  let them get off of the break until they realize the shit that
• 23:05
  they're fucking saying over international, international
• 23:09
  news and national news is being perpetuated by the people that
• 23:13
  support them. And instead of saying the
• 23:16
  bullshit that you're saying, you need to pull that back,
• 23:19
  apologize for what you said and say, hey, we need to tone this
• 23:23
  down. So like, and, and because no
• 23:26
  child or teenager or young adult or old adult at any college or
• 23:32
  any school should ever feel like their life is on the line
• 23:36
  because they're learning. Like that should not be what a
• 23:39
  school should be going through, but they should be going.
• 23:41
  No one in general should ever feel their life is on the line
• 23:44
  unless unless you've committed a very violent act and our
• 23:47
  government's going to be the ones to put you down.
• 23:49
  That's my. Opinion right?
• 23:50
  No, absolutely, sorry, I have. I fully agree, no one should be
• 23:53
  experiencing this whatsoever, especially schools.
• 23:57
  Especially preschools or elementary schools or.
• 23:59
  Churches or or been a lot of recent school shootings.
• 24:03
  Terrifying. And actually, the same day that
• 24:06
  Charlie Kirk got got shot, three people died in Colorado.
• 24:10
  Three different And then beyond just that, there was a shooting
• 24:13
  at a military base too. There was a, it was a lot of
• 24:16
  different lot of different stuff that happened that day.
• 24:20
  I want to really quick go back to one thing before I forget
• 24:22
  about it because I know I will. I want to talk about the, I call
• 24:27
  it the GOP donor event, the the memorial service.
• 24:31
  It was I, I agree with what you were saying earlier, how the
• 24:34
  entire thing was kind of just a sham.
• 24:37
  The one thing I did realize though, because I originally
• 24:40
  said the exact same thing almost word for word is you where I was
• 24:43
  just like shitting on the entire thing.
• 24:45
  But the one thing I was thinking about is as weird as it is, like
• 24:50
  I would never want it this way. I'm sure you wouldn't and most
• 24:53
  normal people, but I feel like that is what Charlie Kirk would
• 24:56
  have wanted. Like, and I don't mean that in
• 24:59
  like a bad way, but I mean like Charlie Kirk's entire life was
• 25:01
  turning point USA like over not over his family.
• 25:05
  But you kind of get what I'm saying Like that was his baby.
• 25:08
  And I feel like that is kind of like what Charlie.
• 25:12
  I feel like if Charlie knew it would have happened exactly how
• 25:15
  it was gonna happen, you wouldn't have changed a thing.
• 25:17
  Yeah. And that's kind of like a crazy
• 25:19
  thing to me where it's, I don't know.
• 25:22
  I almost, I really disliked the event.
• 25:25
  Like I said, I watched it and I had the same feeling as you.
• 25:27
  I was like, why is it all of Trump's cabinet speaking and
• 25:31
  not, you know, like his daughters and not his?
• 25:34
  Father, his best friends, his people from high school.
• 25:37
  His sister. Yeah, like his fucking family.
• 25:39
  Why are they like, why is it just his wife and then the Trump
• 25:42
  administration? Yeah, that part was very, very
• 25:48
  odd to me. It just seemed like a donor
• 25:50
  event. The pyrotechnics were absurd.
• 25:53
  I mean, like, you cannot have fireworks at a fucking funeral.
• 25:57
  That's just that's funeral one O 1.
• 26:00
  I used to live with a funeral service major and he'll tell you
• 26:03
  that you don't have fireworks and a fucking funeral.
• 26:05
  You don't. And it's like you had somebody,
• 26:08
  Oh my God, this is, you had a guy, I just pulled it up, a guy
• 26:14
  walking with a cross, a whole big fucking cross on his God
• 26:19
  damn shoulders. He's they're, they're, they're
• 26:22
  weaponizing his death. He's in a stadium, just like
• 26:26
  when Michael Jackson got when Michael Jackson died.
• 26:28
  What was the what was the crossing?
• 26:30
  I didn't. I don't know what you're.
• 26:31
  Talking about this, this this dude.
• 26:32
  I I pulled it up. It's this picture of this like
• 26:35
  if you type in just Charlie Kirk memorial and you like pull up
• 26:37
  the images, you'll see this like this guy, this like older dude
• 26:41
  in like a Navy. Like he carried a cross.
• 26:44
  Carrying like a giant fucking cross with him on wheels and
• 26:48
  he's just walking through the state like the the, the the
• 26:50
  arena. You'll see.
• 26:53
  You don't think that's the worst thing?
• 26:54
  I think that could be. I think that could be
• 26:56
  interpreted a few different ways.
• 26:58
  I do agree with what you're saying that it could be like a
• 27:00
  weird. It's the imagery.
• 27:02
  Kind of thing. But at the same time, it could
• 27:03
  just be a really religious, like I know a lot of really religious
• 27:06
  people who who would do stuff. Like that, which like I, I, I
• 27:10
  understand when it comes to like that to it's like, if they're
• 27:12
  already like religious to that point, but a lot of these people
• 27:15
  in here were like praying. Some of them that weren't
• 27:18
  praying started to begin to join in.
• 27:20
  What I'm saying is, is that like, it's, it's, it's, it's a
• 27:24
  showmanship. It's showmanship, It's a
• 27:26
  performance. This is a, this is a theater to
• 27:28
  them. This is a show.
• 27:29
  This is a, this is the stage that they get to perform for the
• 27:32
  first under the guise of a memorial for a man who
• 27:37
  essentially had different views, whether you and I can disagree
• 27:41
  or agree on the on the views, but the fact that he died
• 27:44
  because of those views, they're taking his message and his views
• 27:48
  and throwing it and saying this is what we're going to be now.
• 27:52
  And anybody that disagrees with it, someone like Jimmy Kimmel or
• 27:55
  myself or other people, if we disagree with it, we should have
• 28:00
  our voices removed. And, and, and because it's just
• 28:04
  like, Oh my God, gotcha moment. And like, if the left has done
• 28:08
  that, I disagree with that fully.
• 28:11
  Stop. Barnell I don't agree with.
• 28:12
  Voices being removed. I don't, I do agree kind of with
• 28:16
  some of the firings, though. I will.
• 28:17
  I think that part's a little different.
• 28:19
  Like I think social consequences do exist.
• 28:23
  Like I like, for example, one time when I was like when I was
• 28:27
  big on Trump, I, I one time was at a, I was like peacefully
• 28:31
  counter protesting with a couple people at a local protest.
• 28:35
  And like the amount of times I was called like just absolute
• 28:38
  absurdities. And I don't know, there are
• 28:41
  some, there are some things that like like if, if I said in front
• 28:46
  of my jaw, like in front of my boss, or you said in front of
• 28:49
  your boss or your boss saw, if my boss saw that it would just
• 28:51
  be instantly you're done. So like, I do kind of get it.
• 28:54
  Like, you know, like a good example would be like when pine
• 28:57
  SAP got fired for the Jubilee far right video when he said he
• 29:01
  was pro fascism. It's like similar to me as that
• 29:04
  is like, you know, celebrating death, saying certain things
• 29:08
  like they are going to get you fired.
• 29:10
  And it's I, I, I am almost like shocked that some people are
• 29:14
  surprised that it happened to them.
• 29:16
  Where I do agree with you is like the FCC stuff.
• 29:19
  I think that's great. Like when Trump pressures the
• 29:21
  FCC to take something off the air, That's crazy.
• 29:25
  If Jimmy Kimmel's going to get taken off the air, it should be
• 29:28
  because of bad ratings and nothing else by the people.
• 29:31
  The people should be able to go to ABC and say what he said
• 29:34
  about about Trump and his reaction to Charlie Kirk is
• 29:38
  abhorrent. I don't even think that like
• 29:39
  like, I think that's fine. Well, no, like I don't.
• 29:41
  Think what he said is fine, but I think it's like they should.
• 29:43
  I don't think that should even be punishable by the people.
• 29:46
  I I only think like like if if they if AB what show is it on
• 29:50
  ABC? What you guys?
• 29:52
  I don't even know. But so if ABC was like, hey,
• 29:55
  Kim, well, your ratings suck, we're going to take you off.
• 29:57
  And you're also getting a lot of heat for this.
• 29:59
  So like, it's time. That would make sense to me.
• 30:02
  But if the sole reason is like, people are just mad at things he
• 30:05
  said, it's like, OK, then just tune out and then let the
• 30:07
  numbers do the work for you. Like, if you're so mad about
• 30:10
  what he said, everyone just stop watching.
• 30:12
  And then what are they going to do?
• 30:14
  They're going to air a show and lose millions a fucking year.
• 30:17
  Probably not. So that's the solution of that
• 30:20
  in my opinion. I don't think people should ever
• 30:22
  be. Like I said, I would never want
• 30:24
  to be censored. I know I say some out of pocket
• 30:26
  things sometimes, so I extend that same courtesy.
• 30:29
  You should never and we agree on this, you should never ever in
• 30:34
  the history of forever use a government entity and say if you
• 30:39
  don't kick him off, you're losing your licenses, you're
• 30:43
  losing your ability to broadcast.
• 30:45
  That in and of itself is against the 1st Amendment.
• 30:48
  So I agree, I fully agree with you.
• 30:51
  If they, if the, if ABC say, hey, listen, you know, even
• 30:55
  though you said this, you're writing suck Dick and we don't
• 30:58
  like what you're saying anymore. So this is going to be the end
• 31:00
  of your contract or your contract.
• 31:02
  When your contract is done, we're not going to renew you.
• 31:03
  Like that's one thing. But you should never use your
• 31:06
  the government to force somebody out because at that point, if it
• 31:11
  starts at Kimmel, it goes to everybody else below him and
• 31:15
  above him. Everyone's fucked in this
• 31:17
  situation. It's the same thing with it's
• 31:19
  the same thing with the government saying I'm going to
• 31:22
  take your guns away because you said a thing we don't like and
• 31:27
  we don't want you trying to retaliate.
• 31:29
  So we're taking your guns by force.
• 31:31
  That's the whole point of the Second Amendment, right?
• 31:33
  You would and you know what? When I the.
• 31:36
  Reason they won't take guns is because they know the day they
• 31:38
  knock on someone's door like mine to take my guns, it's
• 31:41
  that's the day the Civil War starts.
• 31:43
  Right, and honestly, when I, because I haven't got 1 yet, but
• 31:46
  because I'm, you know, my, I'm respecting my beautiful lady.
• 31:49
  But like, if I when I get one, when I get one and they do that
• 31:53
  to me, that's exactly what I'm going to do too.
• 31:55
  I'm going to be saying fuck you, get the fuck out of my face.
• 31:58
  I'm not letting you do it. And then things are going to go
• 32:00
  down. But like, that's because these
• 32:02
  rights are so important to have for specific reasons.
• 32:06
  It's because we don't want a government to be authoritative
• 32:09
  or fascistic to the point where it could becomes a dictatorship.
• 32:13
  You know it. Fidel Castro.
• 32:15
  Mao fucking Mussolini. It Mustache Guy Mussolini.
• 32:22
  I'm kidding. Listen, I'm a tally.
• 32:24
  I know you're, I know, I know, but like, but the, but the point
• 32:27
  is, is that like because of the constitution and the amendments
• 32:31
  that we have, if you, if you lose 1, you lose them all, every
• 32:34
  single one of them. Just like in the cap, in the in
• 32:36
  the US Capitol, they're holding all of these different pillars
• 32:39
  because it's really because you've done the tour where you
• 32:41
  can like go through and see like, oh, you've never done.
• 32:45
  I've never I've seen the outside of the Capitol.
• 32:48
  I've seen the outside of the I've been to DCA handful of
• 32:50
  times. I've never done any of the
• 32:53
  tours. Gotta go.
• 32:54
  Never. I went to the Spy Museum as a
• 32:56
  kid and that's it. Okay, so the next time you go to
• 32:58
  DC, you're gonna go to the capital.
• 32:59
  You have to go to the backside of the capital to get in because
• 33:02
  it goes through the back and down to the inside.
• 33:04
  I'll just breach it January 6th style.
• 33:08
  He said it, not me. When you go in, you can actually
• 33:11
  set up. Allegedly, I'm kidding.
• 33:12
  Yeah, a legend when when you go in, you can, you can go and
• 33:15
  actually do either a capital tour or a Senate tour and you
• 33:18
  can see the Senate in session or the capital and do the whole
• 33:21
  tour of the building. They'll they bring you right
• 33:23
  back to the to the entrance of it, which is super cool.
• 33:25
  But like when you go in, there's all of these different pillars
• 33:29
  that are inside holding the whole thing up and within the
• 33:34
  the within all the pillars around them are the different
• 33:37
  statues of each of the states. And each statue is a significant
• 33:41
  individual from that state. At the center of this area where
• 33:45
  all of the foundation pillars are is the president's, is
• 33:49
  George Washington's supposed grave where he was supposed to
• 33:53
  be buried, but he didn't want to be buried there.
• 33:55
  He wanted to be buried with his wife.
• 33:56
  So they set it up that way to where if the, because I talked
• 34:01
  to the guy about it, he said if one of the foundation pillars
• 34:03
  collapses, the rest of the Capitol could also collapse.
• 34:07
  Like it's that important to have it.
• 34:10
  So when you go in and then you go up the stairs because you
• 34:12
  are, because these are where the pillars are, you go upstairs,
• 34:15
  you start to walk the area and that whole ground area is being
• 34:19
  held up. It's such a cool experience.
• 34:22
  You have to go into the Capitol without breaking in and see and
• 34:26
  actually see it and actually see it.
• 34:28
  Because the the whole point is I represent the foundation pillars
• 34:33
  as amendments to the Constitution.
• 34:35
  Every single one of them is important.
• 34:36
  Every single one of them is important.
• 34:38
  That's why it's so hard to remove them and bring them back
• 34:40
  in. So if you remove one of those
• 34:42
  pillars, even the even something as simple as the 22nd Amendment,
• 34:47
  I think that would destroy the Constitution.
• 34:51
  And that's something we can debate about.
• 34:52
  But I just think that because of the way that they're
• 34:54
  established, because of the way that they're created, because of
• 34:56
  the specific clauses that get rid of and add in and and
• 35:00
  separate and and and and and and detail and signify specific
• 35:04
  things like how the 5th Amendment works for federally,
• 35:07
  but the 14th Amendment has a clause that works for states
• 35:10
  rights like that is very important to have.
• 35:13
  If you get rid of the 14th Amendment specifically, that
• 35:17
  clause where you have due process rights through states
• 35:21
  gets removed. Now imagine in the state of
• 35:25
  Florida, you get arrested because you ran 50 in a in a 40
• 35:31
  and they throw you in the fucking and book you and you
• 35:33
  don't have a right to due process.
• 35:34
  They just say that you're guilty.
• 35:36
  That changes things. That changes your perspective.
• 35:39
  Yeah. And that's scary.
• 35:40
  Yeah, Yeah, I think they, I think right now we, I don't
• 35:46
  know, I think we're, I think what you're saying is correct.
• 35:49
  I think that's a pretty good metaphor of like if you remove
• 35:51
  one pillar, same as like removing an amendment.
• 35:54
  I do agree there are, there probably are someones we could
• 35:57
  get rid of. I could probably debate you on
• 35:59
  that. But in general, I do agree,
• 36:02
  especially when it comes to, you know, one through 5 really.
• 36:07
  I mean, those are those are actually 3 is a little bit of a
• 36:11
  weird 1. So I don't want the military
• 36:13
  soldiers staying in your house. You.
• 36:14
  Know what I mean? You don't want.
• 36:16
  Them how often did that happen is my question.
• 36:18
  How often did that actually happen that they were like 3rd
• 36:21
  amendment? Well, back then, it actually
• 36:22
  happened a lot in a lot of the places in the 13th, in the 13th
• 36:25
  districts, when when England would come over and provide
• 36:30
  whatever they were providing, soldiers would shack up in these
• 36:33
  buildings and force the families and the women to not only feed
• 36:37
  them and bathe them and house them, but also do unrepentant,
• 36:42
  irreparable sexual acts as well. Like the military back then was
• 36:46
  very ruthless for the time that it was in, but because they were
• 36:50
  the British military, the guys couldn't do anything.
• 36:54
  The boys couldn't do anything. They didn't have any guns.
• 36:56
  They didn't really have any guns to protect themselves with.
• 36:58
  And they also didn't have their own rights because they were
• 37:00
  part of England still. So that's why the 3rd Amendment
• 37:04
  is the way it is, is because of what happened and.
• 37:08
  I just find it funny that it comes before certain other ones
• 37:10
  that it was like it was that important.
• 37:12
  They had to make it third on the that.
• 37:14
  That part was always a little bit funny.
• 37:15
  Yeah, it is a little funny, like seeing how they like
• 37:17
  established, like some of the amendments, like I love that the
• 37:20
  the the 4th, the 5th and the 6th amendment are like way the way
• 37:24
  that they are. But then like the 7th Amendment
• 37:26
  pops up and I think it's like. Well, the 4th doesn't even
• 37:29
  exist. Not at this point.
• 37:30
  I mean, yeah, it's so. That's also one of the my
• 37:33
  biggest problems with the entire Charlie Kirk thing.
• 37:36
  Yeah. And bear with me for a second on
• 37:38
  this, but it's like, you know, about Palantir.
• 37:41
  I I I'd assume. Yeah, we talked.
• 37:43
  About we're like a base level amount about it.
• 37:44
  Yeah. So like they have all our data,
• 37:46
  like they've read your text, they've read mine, our phone
• 37:49
  calls, emails, they know who we're following on.
• 37:51
  They have profiles on all of us. If they have all that, why the
• 37:56
  fuck is there so much violence? Like what?
• 38:00
  Here's my thing. Like they said to us, you know,
• 38:03
  the government is selling. The way they pitched it to the
• 38:06
  American people is we're selling your data to Palantir, but in
• 38:09
  return, we're going to stop hundreds, if not thousands of
• 38:12
  terror attacks. Are they getting stopped?
• 38:15
  It does not seem like it. Like Luigi Mangione shot a guy
• 38:18
  in the back of the head. This kid shot Charlie Kirk in
• 38:20
  the neck. Someone shot that Democratic
• 38:22
  senator four months ago. We have constant violence in
• 38:27
  this country, and it doesn't seem like us giving our data
• 38:30
  away to Palantir for free is actually helping us.
• 38:33
  It seems like we're just being spied on and borderline invaded.
• 38:37
  Here's what's crazy, the Luigi Mangione thing is now even even
• 38:41
  more of a of a situation because remember what?
• 38:44
  Like the DOJ said something referencing Luigi Mangione and
• 38:50
  the, the defense attorney was like, hey, why is the DOJ, the
• 38:54
  head of the DOJ, saying things about Luigi?
• 38:58
  This should be a mistrial and this the charges should be
• 39:00
  dismissed because the the the DOJ is getting involved, getting
• 39:06
  involved in this situation. And the judge was even ordering
• 39:08
  the DOJ to stop talking about him because you have the jury is
• 39:13
  like trying to not to not hear anything to make sure that
• 39:16
  they're not biased. But it's kind of hard when the
• 39:18
  DOJ says something and you're just watching the channel one
• 39:21
  day and it just pops up out of nowhere.
• 39:23
  But no. Do you think he's guilty?
• 39:25
  I That is tough. Honestly, from the video that I
• 39:28
  saw, I don't think it was him. I don't.
• 39:32
  I think it was 100% him. I think that's something we
• 39:35
  disagree. In this situation, do I find him
• 39:36
  guilty? I mean, to be quite honest with
• 39:38
  you, I mean, I, I, I don't know, I didn't really like focus up on
• 39:41
  on Luigi when I heard of it was him.
• 39:43
  I was like, hey, listen jokingly.
• 39:45
  I was like for him, a boy, but like the same time, like if he's
• 39:48
  found guilty, he's found guilty. I'm not going to, I'm not going
• 39:50
  to try and stop that. It's just but.
• 39:53
  But what's interesting, and this is where I start to get a little
• 39:57
  conspiratorial with this, because photos have been popping
• 40:01
  up with this Tyler Robinson dude, and apparently he doesn't
• 40:04
  look the same, I guess from like other photos.
• 40:08
  The Candace Owens thing. What do you know about that?
• 40:10
  Because I have no idea about that specific thing.
• 40:12
  I don't know what the fuck is going on with her.
• 40:14
  So yeah, I mean, Candace has a lot of I'll walk you through, I
• 40:18
  guess like the last week of her theories.
• 40:20
  I'll do it quickly. But it started off, Charlie got
• 40:22
  killed and then after immediately, their first dream
• 40:26
  was like, it's fucking Israel. It's Israel.
• 40:29
  Bill Ackman was blackmailing him in the Hamptons.
• 40:34
  You know, Bibi Netanyahu read this letter, but it's fake and
• 40:37
  she claimed she had the real letter.
• 40:39
  She still is refusing to release.
• 40:42
  She then about two days later switched it from it was Israel
• 40:48
  to it was the feds. And then after that she switched
• 40:52
  it from it's the feds to it's this gothic bee cult.
• 40:59
  And I like when I say bee, I mean like, like bees.
• 41:02
  Like the bug. Like.
• 41:03
  What, like like she's saying like they're there's dude, I'm
• 41:08
  going to laugh as I'm saying this because it's so fucking
• 41:10
  ridiculous. She's saying that there's this
• 41:12
  group. Yeah, you should Google it.
• 41:14
  Then you're saying she's saying that there's a, a group of
• 41:17
  people speaking in code about bees and they're actually
• 41:21
  talking about murder is what she's saying, Which, again,
• 41:24
  could be true. Like I'm not saying like it's
• 41:26
  the most insane thing in the world that people would speak in
• 41:30
  code about murder, but the way she's goes from like 1 theory to
• 41:34
  the next to the next to the next and just flows with the wind.
• 41:37
  It's like, OK, get a fucking grip first of all.
• 41:40
  And then now you know, they released the letter, the BB
• 41:43
  Netanyahu letter, 7 pages of essentially Charlie Kirk sucking
• 41:48
  up to be the entire thing is pretty much Charlie Kirk saying
• 41:52
  like, here's how you should push propaganda to the American
• 41:54
  people. Here's an exact playbook of how
• 41:56
  to do it. And Candace said she had the
• 41:59
  other letter and is refusing to release it.
• 42:02
  So it just doesn't seem credible.
• 42:04
  And she's also saying that it's this other kid who she doesn't
• 42:08
  have the name of who is involved with this gothic cult, which I
• 42:13
  don't think that's true either. I think the, I think the
• 42:17
  original theory is actually brought like I think the FBI
• 42:22
  actually could be kind of correct on what they're saying.
• 42:25
  And when I said earlier that the FBI fucked up Charlie Kirk, I
• 42:28
  still believe that because A, how long it took them to get the
• 42:32
  guy and then B, there's a lot of discrepancies with the clothing
• 42:37
  change with the rifle. Like they said he left his gun
• 42:40
  tool on the roof, but then his gun was reassembled in the
• 42:42
  woods. They said he changed on the
• 42:44
  roof, but the text messages they released said he changed in the
• 42:47
  woods. They the text messages were also
• 42:50
  really weird. It was like, hey, it's O 900.
• 42:52
  I'm going to circle back to my squad car.
• 42:54
  I'm two mics that like it was straight military and police
• 42:57
  talk very weird like. But there does seem to be
• 43:01
  evidence provided by discord to show that the messages were real
• 43:06
  or not the text messages we saw, but that the discord messages
• 43:09
  were real. So that part's really
• 43:11
  interesting. Another really interesting part
• 43:14
  is if Tyler Robinson ends up getting convicted it looks like
• 43:19
  Bill Ackman is going to pay his dad $1,000,000 because Bill
• 43:24
  Ackman put $1,000,000 bounty out to say whoever whoever turns in
• 43:28
  the killer will get $1,000,000 for me and the person who turned
• 43:31
  in the killer happens to be the kids dad which is pretty crazy.
• 43:35
  Yeah, that seems a little wild, but like, so.
• 43:39
  So let's go. I don't.
• 43:40
  I don't think my dad would sell me out for a million.
• 43:42
  I think it would take a little more.
• 43:43
  Fuck. No, fuck no.
• 43:45
  But like. Even if I killed someone I think
• 43:47
  my dad would hide me for. Even as a.
• 43:48
  At least like it'd have to take 10 million.
• 43:51
  Maybe he'd sell me. Out yeah, I'm not a father or.
• 43:53
  He's not even rich, he just, he's a dad, you know?
• 43:56
  I'm not a father, but I would never, ever, in a billion
• 43:59
  bajillion fucking Infinity years ever sell my son out to the
• 44:03
  fucking government or anybody else.
• 44:06
  Ever. Never in the history of the
• 44:07
  world. So I don't.
• 44:10
  For me, it's tricky. I don't know, I'm in between on
• 44:12
  it. Maybe for like a murder.
• 44:15
  I wouldn't put like a mass murder.
• 44:16
  I might or like something really, really bad, like some
• 44:20
  kind of terrorist attack, which that would be I I consider all
• 44:23
  mass murders terrorist attacks. You know, there's domestic and
• 44:25
  there's foreign terrorists. So I'll frame it that way.
• 44:27
  But any terror attack I would I would heavily I mean, I again,
• 44:33
  this is going to sound like super dark, but like if I had to
• 44:36
  live with that and no, I was like hiding, not that I could
• 44:41
  get over like a murder, but like hiding a mass atrocity that I
• 44:44
  knew about and like my son did and I knew he committed it.
• 44:47
  I I would like really struggle with actually like living at
• 44:51
  that .0 Yeah, I would. For sure I would struggle.
• 44:53
  With that's, that's a dark mindset, honestly, but yeah.
• 44:56
  I would probably, I would probably actually like coerce
• 45:00
  him to turn himself in. I think that's what I would do.
• 45:02
  I would be like, you're going to turn yourself.
• 45:04
  Well, it sounds like the neighbors are the ones who
• 45:05
  convinced him. It sounds like his police
• 45:07
  officer neighbors. The one who, Yeah, it originally
• 45:10
  convinced him. Yeah, it sounds, it sounds 100%
• 45:12
  like that was that was the case from reading what Candace said.
• 45:15
  It's it's it's crazy because she's like, he's not suicidal.
• 45:18
  The narrative that the media is placing is completely fictional.
• 45:21
  His father turning him in is is a lie.
• 45:23
  He's never been, he wasn't at the campus.
• 45:26
  Like it seems insane but 100%? I will say he pled not guilty.
• 45:32
  I. Think.
• 45:33
  I think so too. I mean, but like I.
• 45:35
  Mean which is interesting. It is very interesting.
• 45:37
  It is. Interesting that he would plead
• 45:38
  not guilty even if they got like a insurmountable amount of
• 45:41
  evidence on him, but it's also because of the fact.
• 45:43
  I would think if he turned, like if he wanted to turn himself in,
• 45:47
  if that story was true there. Like I said, there's some weird
• 45:50
  some weird things that I just can't.
• 45:52
  Like if I'm turning myself in, I'm guilty.
• 45:54
  I'm saying that right now. If I turn myself in, I know that
• 45:57
  I'm guilty. In my heart I'm going to say
• 45:59
  guilty. But if I don't turn myself in,
• 46:02
  I'm not fucking guilty. But what's crazy is the FBI
• 46:06
  fucked so hard. They completely fucked this
• 46:10
  whole thing up. Like, why is Kash Patel saying
• 46:13
  he got up? He he disassembled his rifle,
• 46:16
  put it in the backpack, went all the way up to the roof, got on
• 46:19
  the ground, assembled the rifle, popped, disassembled the rifle,
• 46:24
  jumped off the roof, reassembled the rifle and threw it out in
• 46:28
  the fucking woods. Like I looked up the rifle.
• 46:31
  You. Cannot dis 30 out six.
• 46:33
  I've shot that not that exact rifle.
• 46:36
  I've shot a very similar rifle. I mean, and you if I could show
• 46:39
  a bullet on stream, but I was gonna show like, I don't have a
• 46:42
  30 out six bullet here, but I have a 57 actually sitting on
• 46:45
  that table. And I was gonna say like A-57 is
• 46:48
  like a smaller 30 out six. It's a it penetrates through
• 46:51
  armor. Yeah.
• 46:52
  Like if someones wearing a bulletproof vest, it's gonna
• 46:54
  shoot pretty clean through it, or at least it's going to do
• 46:57
  some real damage. And he was shot with a bullet
• 47:00
  about twice the size of that and.
• 47:01
  That thing destroys your head. Like I mean just Google a 30 out
• 47:04
  six bullet it's. Great thing destroys
• 47:05
  watermelons. Do you think that do you think
• 47:07
  that he's going to serve like not only?
• 47:09
  I have a 22 that will destroy water.
• 47:11
  Right, right. No, exactly, exactly.
• 47:14
  I have a. My AR1522 will blast through
• 47:17
  plywood. It'll definitely blast through a
• 47:18
  watermelon. We.
• 47:19
  Turn that shit to fucking powder.
• 47:21
  OK? It's that it's that bad.
• 47:22
  Like you really think it's like this is where the conspiracy
• 47:26
  starts to come into place. And I feel like for me, like I
• 47:28
  don't like getting into conspiracy waters, but the only
• 47:31
  one that I will actually get into is the is the round itself
• 47:35
  because there's no shot because I've shot 30 out.
• 47:39
  Six would just go in and just have him leak and not come in
• 47:43
  and blast the fucking stadium. Size the neck bone stopped it.
• 47:48
  I The only thing I will say is this.
• 47:50
  I want to see the the only they didn't do an autopsy.
• 47:54
  What? Yeah, no autopsy, which that's
• 47:59
  another sketchy thing. Why would you not do an autopsy?
• 48:03
  Exactly. I don't.
• 48:05
  Know. At least from what I've heard.
• 48:08
  Maybe let me Google it just so I'm not spewing bullshit.
• 48:10
  But yeah, I'm doing it too. There's no.
• 48:14
  I don't think there was. Yeah, he did not have an
• 48:17
  autopsy. What?
• 48:19
  Oh, wait, actually, wait, what? OK, and maybe there was, I don't
• 48:23
  know. Now I'm seeing conflicting
• 48:25
  reports. Same I'm seeing.
• 48:26
  Conflicting reports. Let me see.
• 48:28
  I'll just look on. I got a good source here.
• 48:30
  Let me search it. Yeah.
• 48:34
  I mean, there's a lot of really weird.
• 48:35
  I mean the weirdest thing to me is the Patsy the the really old
• 48:40
  Jewish guy with the child porn. Yeah, that is weird.
• 48:44
  Well, this part, this headline just popped up as I was opening
• 48:47
  X Baron Trump shuts down an entire floor of Trump Tower for
• 48:50
  a date. I will say this, I know you
• 48:53
  probably don't. Again, I don't love Donald Trump
• 48:55
  at this point. Baron Trump has aura, I'll give
• 48:57
  him that. Baron Trump, he's like 6-8 kind
• 49:03
  of kind of a tank. I'll give him that.
• 49:04
  He's he's a good looking son of a bitch.
• 49:08
  But yeah, I mean, don't agree with everything his dad's doing
• 49:11
  right now for sure. I just.
• 49:12
  Can't. I just can't honestly believe
• 49:14
  that like. Yeah, the guy, George Zinn, if
• 49:17
  you haven't looked into that, that's the that's the guy who
• 49:22
  got arrested immediately that they said was the shooter, but
• 49:26
  he wasn't. And he was the guy saying I'm
• 49:27
  the shooter, shoot me. And then when they searched his
• 49:30
  phone, they found child porn and they didn't find any connection
• 49:35
  to the shooting. Why do you fuck up that hard?
• 49:38
  You know what I mean? Like you, you.
• 49:40
  Yeah, why would you say I'm the shooter knowing you're going to
• 49:42
  get arrested? It like again, I'm for every
• 49:45
  pedophile getting what's coming to them, so I have no problem
• 49:49
  with that guy getting arrested for that.
• 49:50
  My point is like how the fuck are you that dumb?
• 49:53
  Like why would you? It's been a lot of weird
• 49:55
  pedophile shit too recently. Because that Tom Odium guy.
• 49:59
  I don't know if you saw that. I saw that.
• 50:01
  Tom Odium Alexander, if you if you post about him, you get
• 50:05
  deleted now off Tiktok. I got my account banned on
• 50:08
  TikTok yesterday and I got it back on an appeal, but I posted
• 50:12
  about Tom Wordy and Alexander and I said I posted a screenshot
• 50:15
  of the tweet that the FBI put out that said from cash Patel
• 50:19
  said nobody's above the law and then under it he got community
• 50:23
  noted said actually the guy who works directly under Bibi
• 50:26
  Netanyahu just fled justice back to Israel on pedophilia charges
• 50:29
  in America. I was like, how are you going to
• 50:32
  say nobody's above the law but this?
• 50:34
  And I got, I don't know. That's one of the craziest
• 50:38
  things actually. I want to ask you where you
• 50:40
  stand on that. Who would you rather own TikTok,
• 50:42
  the Chinese Communist Party? China essentially?
• 50:45
  Or would you rather Israel own? It Oh no, I'm not letting Israel
• 50:49
  touch shit. I ain't letting Israel touch
• 50:51
  they. Own it now, though.
• 50:52
  I, I, they just bought it. Larry Ellison bought it.
• 50:54
  I, Larry Ellison is the number one donor to the IDF and he's
• 50:59
  one of the biggest supporters financially of Israel outside of
• 51:02
  just the UN, United States. I don't feel good about that.
• 51:06
  The person they put in charge of PR as well and in charge of
• 51:09
  moderation is the former head of the IDF.
• 51:13
  Yeah, I don't. I don't feel good about that.
• 51:15
  Nope, Nope, Nope, Nope. No.
• 51:16
  Don't agree with that. What?
• 51:17
  I put out a poll on Twitter, I said who would you rather own
• 51:20
  your TikTok data, China or Israel?
• 51:23
  And everyone pick China. Yeah, I would much rather
• 51:26
  because even though like I feel some type of way about, you
• 51:32
  know, 'cause I used to live there and like I, you know, like
• 51:35
  I personal, you know, things like I don't hate China.
• 51:38
  I don't, you know, despise it or anything.
• 51:40
  It's just like I had personal issues.
• 51:42
  I didn't really work with me. I will never ever in a fucking
• 51:45
  million years let Israel touch my shit.
• 51:47
  Fuck no. I do not support that.
• 51:49
  I do not agree with that. Keep that shit the fuck out of
• 51:52
  here. Nope, not even not.
• 51:54
  Even Israel could pay me a billion dollars and I still
• 51:57
  wouldn't go and kiss their wall. I.
• 51:59
  Would literally never no. The idea of it is just so one of
• 52:02
  the things I hate the most that Israel does.
• 52:04
  Like outside of the war stuff and outside of the financial
• 52:09
  stuff. When it comes to the propaganda,
• 52:12
  one of the things I hate the most is the way they weaponize
• 52:14
  the Bible against Christians and against Americans.
• 52:17
  So obviously American when it comes to America.
• 52:19
  When it comes to religion, it's predominantly Christian for
• 52:22
  religion and Bibi Netanyahu just yesterday he talked about the
• 52:28
  Genesis verse where he says those who bless Israel will be
• 52:31
  blessed and like a quick religion lesson than like any of
• 52:35
  the viewers listening. But it's like when you say that
• 52:37
  it's directly contradictory to Christians beliefs because what
• 52:42
  he's quoting is the Old Testament.
• 52:44
  And Christians believe that when Jesus died on the cross, the
• 52:48
  prophecies of the Old Testament were fulfilled.
• 52:51
  And that's how we got the New Testament.
• 52:52
  It's not a sequel. It supersedes the Old Testament.
• 52:56
  So when you're when you're quoting the Old Testament to
• 52:59
  Christians saying that it's an act they have to do, you're
• 53:02
  directly saying that like, I don't respect your religion in a
• 53:05
  way. Yeah.
• 53:06
  And it's just like you're trying to weaponize something that is
• 53:09
  not even. Like, it's not that the Bible is
• 53:11
  not real to us. It's a very real verse in
• 53:13
  Genesis. But my point is to interpret
• 53:15
  that as like, we have to support Bibi Netanyahu, essentially the
• 53:18
  worst modern day dictator in our time.
• 53:20
  Yeah, It's like, OK, like fuck off.
• 53:22
  Yeah, no, I. Stopped weaponizing my religion
• 53:25
  against. And that's the thing, right?
• 53:26
  Is that like it just seemed, it just seems like there's a lot of
• 53:30
  weaponization that is happening to, to, to, to religion, to
• 53:37
  political ideologies. And it's just it, it's, it's
• 53:42
  corrosive, you know, like I, I wouldn't, I, I used to be
• 53:45
  Catholic because my mom, this time my mom and my dad raised
• 53:48
  me, but like. Cradle Catholic.
• 53:51
  Not, not, not. Just like born into it you mean?
• 53:53
  Yeah, sort of kind of like my mom is a, my mom is a a Catholic
• 53:56
  from from Argentina. So she like was like dove out.
• 54:00
  My dad was a Christian, but the only like church that we had
• 54:03
  close by us was a Catholic Church.
• 54:05
  So we went to that a lot. And like I learned a lot, but I
• 54:08
  don't think I went until I was like 4-5.
• 54:12
  It's when I can actually, like, read.
• 54:14
  When I can actually read. Yeah.
• 54:16
  But the, the, the point was like, I left on my own terms.
• 54:20
  I didn't. And it's not because I don't
• 54:22
  like Catholicism or Christianity.
• 54:24
  It's just I got to experience other religions and got to see
• 54:26
  like the beauties of it. So it makes me who I am today.
• 54:29
  But like, if someone told me that you have to be Catholic
• 54:36
  because Muslims are this Christians are that Protestants
• 54:39
  are this Jews are that like, and, and, and then if you, if
• 54:43
  you decide to leave, we're going to isolate you from your family,
• 54:48
  from your community, from your loved ones.
• 54:50
  Like weaponize, why would you weaponize this religion against
• 54:53
  me? And why would you weaponize
• 54:55
  other other religions and basically Stockholm syndrome me
• 54:59
  into this religion? And like, I think that that's
• 55:01
  what's happening right now with not just religion, but with
• 55:04
  politics. It, it, it used to be the days
• 55:07
  where like you would have disagreements and, and like Mitt
• 55:10
  Romney and Bush, like you are Mitt Romney and Obama, like you
• 55:13
  would talk it out. And even though you had
• 55:15
  disagreements with each other, you were trying to find what was
• 55:18
  best for, for the country. Now it, it, it just seems like
• 55:23
  it's now become more of like a, like a, like AI have to win a
• 55:28
  debate. I have to win this shouting
• 55:30
  match to become president. Because if I don't and if I
• 55:33
  don't tell people, listen, the left is trying to kill you.
• 55:35
  The right is trying to take all your money away and all your
• 55:38
  rights away. Like it starts to become
• 55:41
  corrosive. That's literally.
• 55:43
  I say all the time, it's not a battle of left and right that
• 55:46
  we're in in this country. And that's how the media frames
• 55:48
  it. They frame it as as if it's left
• 55:50
  versus right, it's good versus evil.
• 55:52
  And that's all it is. It's they're the way I look at
• 55:55
  it is, is there's pure demonic evil in this world.
• 55:58
  There are people who are just going to take a life because
• 56:00
  they don't agree with a person. There are people who are going
• 56:03
  to commit atrocious acts, shootings, burn down churches,
• 56:06
  burn down buildings, burn down schools.
• 56:09
  They're going to shoot up, you know, clubs, concerts, they're
• 56:12
  going to shoot up all like they're going to commit these
• 56:14
  atrocious acts. These things do exist.
• 56:16
  They're in my mind. There is demonic influence in
• 56:18
  this world. And it's it's really just a
• 56:20
  battle of good versus evil because it's kind of like what
• 56:22
  we were saying just right in the beginning of the show today.
• 56:25
  But it was like, people on the left disagree about so much, but
• 56:29
  we can all, for the most part, agree that violence shouldn't be
• 56:32
  happening. And there are people on the
• 56:34
  right and there are people on the left who think that violence
• 56:36
  is the answer. Like there are people I had
• 56:39
  someone comment on my Spotify on one of my things and they were
• 56:42
  like, you know, it's time for us to lead the Crusades like God
• 56:46
  led the crusade. And it's like, no, it is time to
• 56:49
  pick up your fucking Bible and your rosary and it is time to
• 56:52
  get on your knees and pray to Christ that you put your actions
• 56:55
  and intentions in the alignment with the will of God.
• 56:58
  It is not time for violence, it's time for the opposite.
• 57:00
  I wasn't alive about maybe the day after it happened.
• 57:05
  All right, I'm mowing the lawn my my fucking business, helping
• 57:08
  my dad out. And I hear a guy say one that
• 57:14
  the left is going to get what they deserve, that we are going
• 57:17
  to avenge Charlie Kirk, that the vengeance is going to be
• 57:21
  ruthless. That was what one guy said to
• 57:23
  me. Another guy said to me, I don't
• 57:26
  feel bad and this is what you got.
• 57:31
  This is why I don't feel bad about what happened to Trayvon
• 57:34
  Martin. Trayvon Martin like.
• 57:40
  Was that the kid who got shot by George Zimmerman in Florida?
• 57:42
  Yeah, I. Remember that I was so young
• 57:44
  when that happened. I like, don't even remember the
• 57:47
  details but I know. About like the fact like, like
• 57:49
  one, why are we why are we asking for vengeance against the
• 57:55
  political party that we don't even know who did the thing or
• 57:59
  not? And also two, why are you saying
• 58:02
  that 10 years ago this kid got shot and killed by George
• 58:06
  Zimmerman? Whether whether we agree or
• 58:08
  disagree on it, on the happening, this kid gets shot
• 58:11
  and killed by George Zimmerman, and that was justified because
• 58:16
  of what happened to Charlie Kirk.
• 58:18
  Why are we? Why are we putting?
• 58:20
  They don't think they're related at all.
• 58:22
  I think that's a crazy. Not even close.
• 58:24
  That's like, that's like me. Saying some people are just
• 58:26
  insane. That's like me saying that like,
• 58:30
  because Trump got shot at, you know that that's what you guys
• 58:36
  get for what happened to George Floyd.
• 58:39
  Why are we trying to conflate the two?
• 58:41
  Both of these things are atrocious, but we should not be
• 58:45
  trying to make like, this is what happened here.
• 58:48
  This is why you deserve this. That's that's, that's literally
• 58:52
  animalizing people. You're literally animalizing
• 58:55
  tragedies for your own benefit. What does that achieve that just
• 59:00
  turns you into a? Village I think when you like
• 59:03
  try and like compare things like that that don't really have to
• 59:06
  do with each other. Like I think comparing reactions
• 59:09
  makes more sense, but like comparing the actual like if you
• 59:12
  say like after like a good example I could use is like if
• 59:16
  you said like after George Floyd died, people burned down
• 59:20
  buildings versus like after Charlie Kirk, that didn't
• 59:23
  happen. That's a good argument.
• 59:25
  But if you were going to say like, if you're going to say
• 59:27
  this happened, so now this is happening, like, OK, that's just
• 59:30
  a low IQ argument. In my and that's something that
• 59:33
  that can be very easily debated, right?
• 59:35
  Like that's that's fine. Like we can we can debate that
• 59:37
  kind of topic, but we should not be trying to villainize it.
• 59:40
  Be like this is justified because of this and and and.
• 59:43
  No violence is ever. Just no violence.
• 59:47
  Violence is again there. There's like less than .1% of
• 59:52
  instances I can think of in my mind to justify violence.
• 59:56
  And it's not even like like when I say justifying violence in the
• 1:00:00
  like the point some I I mainly mean in self-defense instances.
• 1:00:04
  Like if if someone's trying to take my life, and I mean this in
• 1:00:07
  the best way, I'm going to take theirs.
• 1:00:09
  I'm not going to, I'm not going to hesitate on it.
• 1:00:11
  If someone is in the process of reaching for their gun to take
• 1:00:14
  my life and I have the option to grab mine, it's it's them not me
• 1:00:18
  that day. If someone breaks in my house,
• 1:00:21
  same thing, it's them, not me. But then yeah, like when you
• 1:00:24
  bring it to real world examples of like a guy goes into a
• 1:00:28
  fucking grocery store and just shoots A cashier because he's
• 1:00:31
  having a bad. Like there's 0 justification for
• 1:00:34
  any of this rise in violence we're seeing.
• 1:00:36
  And real quick. Are you down if we take a one
• 1:00:39
  minute pause so I could go to the bathroom real quick for it
• 1:00:41
  because. I'm going to grab like a sum to
• 1:00:42
  drink. But yeah, I just think, I think
• 1:00:45
  it's, it's very, it's very destructive to, to, to
• 1:00:49
  villainize each other when you can easily find common ground.
• 1:00:53
  And, and I, I don't, I don't support people, you know,
• 1:00:59
  throwing parades or cheering and celebrating.
• 1:01:02
  But also I completely understand when people are like, I can't
• 1:01:06
  care. I just, I don't care, you know,
• 1:01:08
  I don't personally, but I also am very sympathetic to his, to
• 1:01:13
  his wife, to those kids. I'm sorry that this happened to
• 1:01:17
  them. You know, I'm sorry that this
• 1:01:19
  is, this is going on. But in order for us to move
• 1:01:22
  forward, we need some sort of reform.
• 1:01:25
  Something, whether it's medical like mental or, or something
• 1:01:30
  with firearms, just something that can work.
• 1:01:32
  Because if, if you look at, if you look at the, the, the, the
• 1:01:35
  laws of Utah a month prior, they got rid of a law that said that
• 1:01:40
  you can't have a gun on campus. I don't think that law would
• 1:01:44
  have. Stopped.
• 1:01:45
  I don't think so either. But you know what?
• 1:01:46
  At least like that wouldn't be something that you can make as
• 1:01:49
  an excuse, you know what I mean? Like if the law is always.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah, I'm saying that part of it that that can make sense.
• 1:01:55
  And yeah, I mean, like one thing I also want to say like when you
• 1:01:59
  say like you don't care, it's, I feel like you kind of not that
• 1:02:03
  you care in the sense of like about Charlie Kirk per SE, but I
• 1:02:06
  would say you do care because you like, like you care about
• 1:02:10
  the violence itself. And that's what that's what's
• 1:02:13
  important. It's like I, I can 100% agree
• 1:02:15
  with you that not everybody has to care about Charlie Kirk.
• 1:02:18
  Like you don't have to care about who Charlie Kirk was.
• 1:02:22
  Realistically, like this is America again, everyone can have
• 1:02:25
  their own opinions, but it's about caring about the violence
• 1:02:28
  and you do care about that. And I think that's the most
• 1:02:30
  important part. And that's the like, that's the
• 1:02:32
  overlooked part where it gets into that shady Gray area where
• 1:02:35
  it's like, there's a ton of people I know who would just
• 1:02:38
  like, you know, it goes in one ear out the other.
• 1:02:40
  They just, they don't give a shit.
• 1:02:41
  It doesn't affect their day. But it's the people who like
• 1:02:43
  celebrate the violence and the people who who don't care about
• 1:02:48
  the violence who are like, there are almost people who are like
• 1:02:50
  kind of excited for it because they're like, maybe this is
• 1:02:53
  going to be the start of some people want the civil war to
• 1:02:56
  happen. And it's like.
• 1:02:57
  You've got, you've got. This is what the.
• 1:02:59
  Let's engage in politics. Let's not engage in war.
• 1:03:01
  Yeah, you've got like the spectrum right?
• 1:03:03
  Where it's like I'm going to celebrate the death, I'm going
• 1:03:06
  to weaponize the death. I don't care either way.
• 1:03:09
  Like, like violence is never the answer.
• 1:03:12
  Violence shouldn't be the answer.
• 1:03:14
  So it's it's one of the things we're.
• 1:03:15
  Saying I think the people like you're saying like right here,
• 1:03:18
  they're in alignment. It's these sides and I don't
• 1:03:21
  even think it's like far right and far left necessary because I
• 1:03:24
  would consider myself in the alt right like I would consider
• 1:03:27
  myself like I'm not a standard Republican anymore.
• 1:03:30
  I definitely used to be. I'm I definitely align more with
• 1:03:32
  like I'm closer to Nick Fuentes than I am to try to be careful
• 1:03:35
  in a lot of positions. Come on, you gotta be a little
• 1:03:37
  careful with that. I will say there's a, there's a
• 1:03:41
  lot of a lot of really good things that I think everyone has
• 1:03:45
  political differences with certain things.
• 1:03:47
  But I think there's a lot of things that get misinterpreted
• 1:03:50
  about him that I feel like when people actually tune it.
• 1:03:53
  Like I know a lot of people on the left who love his streams
• 1:03:56
  who before were like they saw a tweet from him or something and
• 1:03:59
  they just completely wrote him off.
• 1:04:02
  So I understand the reaction completely, but I do think it's
• 1:04:05
  like, here's like a good example directly after the Charlie Kirk
• 1:04:10
  shooting. Like this is the best example I
• 1:04:12
  could give. But like directly after it, and
• 1:04:14
  I mean like moments after to the day after, even a week after
• 1:04:18
  still to this day. I talked to a lot of other Nick
• 1:04:20
  Fuentes fans and generally most of them are Catholics.
• 1:04:23
  Like the Nick Fuentes movement is a Catholic movement over
• 1:04:27
  most, over being political. It's a Catholic Very, very.
• 1:04:30
  Catholic, yeah. Everyone I've talked to and I've
• 1:04:35
  talked to, when I say hundreds, I literally mean hundreds.
• 1:04:38
  Everyone I've talked to was in the same state as me of like the
• 1:04:41
  violence needs to stop. We're going to pray.
• 1:04:43
  We're not going to be weapons to this.
• 1:04:47
  And then like same thing is like when I went on stream and said
• 1:04:50
  like no violence. Nick Fuentes, same thing he got
• 1:04:54
  on stream. He had I think like 3,000,000
• 1:04:57
  viewers on that stream or something like an insane amount,
• 1:05:00
  but same thing. It was like no violence, you
• 1:05:02
  know, like this is our our time to put our actions and
• 1:05:07
  intentions in alignment with the will of God, which I thought was
• 1:05:10
  like the correct message. You could actually kind of like
• 1:05:12
  see the weight on his shoulders. You could like see it in his
• 1:05:16
  face. You could see that he knew in
• 1:05:17
  that moment that he had millions of people listening to him.
• 1:05:21
  And they were a lot of Charlie Kirk supporters.
• 1:05:23
  And not just that it was a lot of really young men.
• 1:05:26
  And realistically, the people who can build and break a nation
• 1:05:29
  are young men. And that's not to discredit
• 1:05:31
  women in any way, but just to say that when it comes to
• 1:05:34
  fighting army, you know, fighting wars, when it comes to
• 1:05:36
  building infrastructure, the majority of technology, things
• 1:05:40
  like that, it's it's generally male focused, most of these
• 1:05:43
  things. So men, specifically young men,
• 1:05:47
  pissed off men, confused young men have the ability to make or
• 1:05:51
  break a nation. And I think the way he handled
• 1:05:54
  that situation was as best as he could have.
• 1:05:57
  And I think it was like the correct messaging to give.
• 1:05:59
  So that that's one of the, I don't know.
• 1:06:02
  I will say if you haven't ever watched a full stream, I would
• 1:06:06
  say watch at least just one full live stream before completely
• 1:06:10
  because I know you're not going to I mean.
• 1:06:11
  Well, I've watched like the. He's far right, you're on the
• 1:06:13
  left. I've watched like a lot of
• 1:06:15
  debates with him. I've watched a lot, you know, I,
• 1:06:17
  I did watch a lot of videos of him because I was also
• 1:06:20
  interested. Like this was like back in the
• 1:06:21
  day when I like was when I was just a viewer and less of a of a
• 1:06:26
  creator. But then when I started like
• 1:06:27
  hearing a lot of things that he said, I was like, I don't, I
• 1:06:29
  don't agree with that. I don't agree with this either.
• 1:06:31
  But the what I will say is what they did to because they made a
• 1:06:37
  conspiracy theory that he was part of this griper movement,
• 1:06:40
  this that Tyler that he was. Oh yeah?
• 1:06:42
  Well, he runs the the gripers are his fan.
• 1:06:44
  Tyler runs the gripers. Gripers just means.
• 1:06:47
  What Tyler runs the gripers or Nick?
• 1:06:49
  No, no, that's what I meant. So like so like so.
• 1:06:51
  Like, oh, I thought you said, I thought you said Tyler was not
• 1:06:54
  involved. Yeah, right.
• 1:06:55
  That's what Jimmy Kimmel was getting shit for.
• 1:06:57
  Because Jimmy Kimmel said he was part of the right, insinuating
• 1:07:00
  he was a groan. Well, multiple articles were
• 1:07:02
  like popping out with that and Nick was like, no, this, he's
• 1:07:04
  not a part of it. He's just part of Discord.
• 1:07:06
  And like it got to a point where I had an argument yesterday with
• 1:07:10
  somebody about the the casings on the rounds where it was
• 1:07:15
  saying like, Hey, fascist catch and it was showing the arrows
• 1:07:18
  and like the OWO face. It's all memes.
• 1:07:21
  It's all Internet stuff from hell divers and from like these
• 1:07:24
  video and from, you know, they weren't doing it to be like,
• 1:07:27
  Hey, I'm a leftist, fuck a fascist.
• 1:07:30
  He was saying, Hey, this is a funny thing from a propaganda
• 1:07:33
  game and a fun little action game that we like to play.
• 1:07:36
  I'm just going to put it on the on the on the case like he, he.
• 1:07:40
  I think it's more of a sign of like mental derangement when
• 1:07:43
  it's like when you're going to commit like such an atrocious
• 1:07:45
  act and you're writing fucking jokes.
• 1:07:47
  The church shooting. Like, that's just like, crazy to
• 1:07:50
  me. Yeah, the church.
• 1:07:51
  Shooting guy Journal that. Video I'll never Unsee.
• 1:07:54
  Their manifesto was all Russian. The whole thing was rushing for
• 1:07:59
  29 pages. I read it and I was trying, I
• 1:08:01
  was trying to find out what the cause was.
• 1:08:03
  You look at the, the the. I have the translation on my
• 1:08:06
  computer. It's why, really.
• 1:08:08
  I would love to look at that but like chat.
• 1:08:10
  GPT won't translate it for you either, it's so annoying.
• 1:08:13
  Magazines it. Refuses to because of how fucked
• 1:08:15
  up the things are. It says every time you copy and
• 1:08:17
  paste and say translate it just says content policy violation.
• 1:08:20
  Jesus, the the magazines were saying all of the the shooters,
• 1:08:24
  the mass shooters, this person was idolizing them.
• 1:08:27
  This like and like all of the guns say.
• 1:08:30
  That's why I say it's good versus evil.
• 1:08:32
  It's not left versus right. Exactly.
• 1:08:33
  There is political violence when it comes to right to left and
• 1:08:36
  left to right. It does exist this, but
• 1:08:38
  realistically it's rooted and evil.
• 1:08:40
  It's not rooted in the political beliefs as much as and it's the
• 1:08:43
  same, people like to say. It's the same thing with good
• 1:08:44
  too. Good is also on the right and
• 1:08:47
  the left. There are good intentions, there
• 1:08:48
  are bad intentions. There's good and evil on both
• 1:08:51
  sides. Of course it's going to exist.
• 1:08:53
  You can't have somebody who's always good on the left and
• 1:08:56
  always evil on the right or vice versa.
• 1:08:58
  It doesn't happen. It doesn't exist.
• 1:09:00
  But but what's what's, what's. And that's why I actually
• 1:09:04
  support I I support like there's good and evil.
• 1:09:06
  It's on both sides. Absolutely agree with that.
• 1:09:08
  But like to to to kind of go off of it.
• 1:09:11
  Like a lot of these people were just taking it and weaponizing
• 1:09:15
  the the the I don't know the Corey person.
• 1:09:17
  I just know that they exist. But like for him to say like I
• 1:09:21
  don't support the violence, I don't support this whatsoever.
• 1:09:24
  This is not OK. We shouldn't be doing this.
• 1:09:25
  We should be praying. I commend that I even though I
• 1:09:28
  disagree with him. I mean, I was a.
• 1:09:29
  Great, great monologue about it. And you could almost see him
• 1:09:33
  getting like emotional as he's saying it because, and that was
• 1:09:36
  another weird thing to me when it was like he almost seemed
• 1:09:38
  more emotional than fucking Erica Kirk.
• 1:09:40
  Well, because, because imagine it, right?
• 1:09:42
  Imagine that you are a strong political figure and you've been
• 1:09:46
  in contact with this person before, and you had more.
• 1:09:50
  Never has. Well, I'm I'm not saying just
• 1:09:52
  like just. Him, he has.
• 1:09:53
  He was his opponent basically. So Nick Fuentes, his
• 1:09:57
  relationship to Charlie Kirk was Nick.
• 1:10:00
  Nick would call Turning Point USA talking points USA.
• 1:10:04
  He would just look at Turning Point USA as a GOPGOP drive and
• 1:10:09
  nothing more. Like it would push the GOP
• 1:10:11
  talking points, it would support the Israel lobby, foreign wars,
• 1:10:14
  foreign aid, all those things. Well, Nick is more of a national
• 1:10:18
  stance where it's like no foreign wars, no foreign aid,
• 1:10:21
  less immigration, more Catholic and traditional values in the
• 1:10:26
  way that Turning Point went away from.
• 1:10:28
  And yeah, so Nick would basically he, what they called
• 1:10:34
  it was like the Griper War where it was they would next viewers
• 1:10:37
  would go to Charlie Kirk's events and they would ask him
• 1:10:40
  questions that Charlie Kirk would refuse to answer.
• 1:10:42
  It would be like, hey, so have you ever heard about the five
• 1:10:45
  dancing Israelis on 9/11? What about the Israeli art
• 1:10:48
  students who were there on 9/11? What about the USS Liberty being
• 1:10:52
  sunk by his or being shot by Israel, You know, asking all
• 1:10:56
  these questions that Charlie Kirk would then refuse to
• 1:10:58
  answer. And it became a thing where like
• 1:11:00
  they were feuding and Nick got banned from every Turning Point
• 1:11:04
  USA event. He's never actually, I don't
• 1:11:05
  think, to my knowledge, I don't think he's ever actually talked
• 1:11:08
  to him. But yeah, it was like a crazy
• 1:11:10
  like faux relationship where they like they were adversaries.
• 1:11:14
  But you could see how heavily it weighed on Nick when when he
• 1:11:18
  passed. And that was, it was almost
• 1:11:20
  moving to see like his reaction versus you saw, I don't know if
• 1:11:24
  you've seen this new fucking kid, Berlin Holly Hand or
• 1:11:27
  whatever. Oh my Google, brilliant Holly
• 1:11:32
  Hand. He's like a 18 year old kid.
• 1:11:35
  They're trying to prop him up as the next Charlie.
• 1:11:37
  Car Oh, I've seen. He's getting shit on I've.
• 1:11:38
  Seen this piece of shit loser Because he's a Charlie.
• 1:11:40
  He looks like him. This guy fucking looks like
• 1:11:43
  Charlie. He.
• 1:11:43
  Was like riding in a private jet with a $600.00 polo on and
• 1:11:47
  people are shitting on. It's like I would shit on dude,
• 1:11:49
  you're unrelatable. You're wearing a $600.
• 1:11:51
  Polo Unrelatable. This guy screams that he's a a
• 1:11:56
  neppo baby. This guy screams neo Con.
• 1:11:58
  He looks like he would be Bush. Is not going to work like.
• 1:12:01
  There's no way. Nick Fuentes had a good thing in
• 1:12:03
  his stream last night about him and he said, you know that like,
• 1:12:08
  because the charm with this kid is he's like a young kid.
• 1:12:11
  He he does have, you know, he's a good speaker.
• 1:12:13
  He's got that like Southern thing to him, like he's from
• 1:12:16
  Alabama, all that this guy is. Then Nick made a point.
• 1:12:19
  He's like, that Southern draw is not going to work when it's 100
• 1:12:22
  gropers deep in your lines at your campus events asking you
• 1:12:25
  questions about Israel that you cannot fucking answer it.
• 1:12:28
  He's like Charlie Kirk is the only man to ever be able to get
• 1:12:31
  away with that because he built that reputation up overtime.
• 1:12:34
  He's like, we're in a different era now where nobody trusts
• 1:12:36
  Israel. If you get up there on campus
• 1:12:38
  events and defend them, you're just going to get absolutely
• 1:12:42
  wrecked at this. Point and on both sides too with
• 1:12:44
  the left fucking despises Israel obviously, like we talked about
• 1:12:48
  it before there's different messaging they've.
• 1:12:49
  Lost the left. Lost left left is fucking far
• 1:12:53
  away gone. They've already passed them in
• 1:12:55
  this marathon. But like the the the thing that
• 1:12:58
  makes it even crazier right is that this kid looks like he was
• 1:13:02
  propped up. He looks like he just came out
• 1:13:04
  of the fuck he was. Like his dad's a GOP donor.
• 1:13:07
  And I'm not that's not surprising whatsoever.
• 1:13:09
  And like, but because of that, you know, that's, that's a
• 1:13:12
  that's a huge issue is that like they're trying to be like, we
• 1:13:15
  can make them again. This is perfectly fine.
• 1:13:17
  They're they're trying to erase essentially Charlie and his
• 1:13:23
  beliefs, even though they said his message will live on
• 1:13:25
  forever, right? So because because they're
• 1:13:27
  making this new guy, but like I it's, it's, it's unprecedented
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  that this gives never going to actually grow.
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  But what I will say is that it's not even like, I guess the point
• 1:13:40
  that was making is like, even like his opponents, like Dean
• 1:13:42
  Withers apparently just bawled his eyes out apparently through
• 1:13:46
  this whole situation. Yeah, it's so many people don't
• 1:13:48
  follow him over that too, which is crazy.
• 1:13:50
  Yeah, and I guess because it's just like a fiery thing.
• 1:13:52
  And also because Charlie Kirk did say a lot of hateful
• 1:13:55
  rhetoric in the in the eyes of these people and which I
• 1:13:59
  understand because like, I've seen some of the stuff and I
• 1:14:00
  don't agree with a lot of the things that he said, but I would
• 1:14:03
  never fucking cry over this shit.
• 1:14:05
  Fuck no. I'm not going to cry over
• 1:14:06
  somebody that died. I find it like, I'm not going to
• 1:14:08
  like debate you too hard on it, but I find it great.
• 1:14:10
  Like I understand some people like, because I've heard that
• 1:14:13
  before, before you just said it where they say like Charlie Kirk
• 1:14:16
  would say hateful rhetoric. But it's like when I hear that,
• 1:14:19
  it's like I almost like kind of like laugh like a teeny bit in
• 1:14:22
  my head just for the sole fact that like when I compare my
• 1:14:25
  positions to Charlie Kirk, I view Charlie Kirk as a moderate.
• 1:14:28
  Like I don't think like I'm way more extreme than him, but like
• 1:14:32
  at least on some of my positions, specifically on
• 1:14:34
  foreign aid and foreign wars and immigration, I'm way more
• 1:14:38
  extreme than Charlie on like something.
• 1:14:40
  So it's like that's, that was like, because you're not the
• 1:14:43
  first person I've heard that from.
• 1:14:45
  So it's like it was surprising to me, like hearing that from
• 1:14:48
  people because like I'd never even like thought that.
• 1:14:51
  Like I, I would sometimes say things on my show and I'd be
• 1:14:54
  like, oh, did I go like a little too far?
• 1:14:56
  But then I would compare it to like something Charlie said.
• 1:14:58
  And I'm like, no, I didn't go too far.
• 1:15:00
  Like it's like this. It's one of those.
• 1:15:02
  Things where it's like, because, because one of the things that
• 1:15:04
  he said as as an example, and one of the things that he said
• 1:15:09
  was like specific people used affirmative action as a way to
• 1:15:15
  just only, only affirmative action as a way to get into
• 1:15:18
  specific places that would quote, take up a, a white
• 1:15:22
  person's position, which he he mentioned the Supreme Court
• 1:15:28
  Justice Katani Katani Brown, Jun Jackson, Sheila Jackson, Lee,
• 1:15:33
  Joy Reid and Michelle Obama. He mentioned these four people.
• 1:15:36
  Now a lot of people take it as, you know, specifically like
• 1:15:41
  black women in general, where like I can kind of see like
• 1:15:44
  where that that specific line is of thinking is coming from.
• 1:15:48
  I saw it as you're going after these four women because you're
• 1:15:51
  going after affirmative action. But from what I saw and from
• 1:15:55
  what I was reading upon it is that they were supporting the
• 1:15:57
  idea that affirmative action just gives opportunities for
• 1:16:00
  people that don't have the financial stability to go to
• 1:16:02
  places like Harvard and Princeton.
• 1:16:04
  But they have the, the, the education and the intellectual
• 1:16:07
  prowess to get to that point. Because even though affirmative
• 1:16:11
  action does get you into that building, affirmative action
• 1:16:14
  does not help you achieve the, the, the positions that you
• 1:16:20
  gain. So like Katanji Brown Jackson,
• 1:16:21
  for example, was a governing body of, of Harvard when she was
• 1:16:26
  there working at the time and, and, and learning at the time,
• 1:16:29
  she was able to basically talk about like how the, the, the the
• 1:16:34
  court decisions or whatever that they did about affirmative
• 1:16:36
  action was like not OK for North Carolina, but she couldn't talk
• 1:16:39
  about with Harvard. But she talks about her time and
• 1:16:42
  being like, this is something that we should have for people
• 1:16:45
  that don't have those opportunities.
• 1:16:46
  And Michelle, I think Michelle and Barack Obama even said,
• 1:16:50
  like, yeah, we have used this before, but it's not you still
• 1:16:54
  have to work hard and still have to gain it and keep an education
• 1:16:57
  in order to still achieve success.
• 1:17:00
  This just helps people get into the door that don't have the
• 1:17:03
  money for it. And that's why.
• 1:17:05
  I do think there is. I do think there is some the
• 1:17:11
  push back I would give is I do think there are a lot of
• 1:17:13
  instances where it is abused. Yeah, specifically DEI and how
• 1:17:20
  I'm drawing a blank right now, affirmative action.
• 1:17:22
  I do think there are instances where they do definitely get
• 1:17:25
  abused. I could kind of see your
• 1:17:28
  perspective on those things, but in general, I mean, my
• 1:17:32
  perspective aligns pretty right with those things in like, I
• 1:17:37
  think everything should be merit based for the most part.
• 1:17:40
  I'm a big believer in like blind hiring and all that of like,
• 1:17:45
  don't even put your race on your.
• 1:17:47
  Yeah. I always tell white people, I
• 1:17:49
  say when you're applying for a job, press or do prefer not to
• 1:17:53
  answer. You have a better chance if
• 1:17:54
  you're white guy getting a job if you do that just because of
• 1:17:58
  the huge rise in DEI we saw. I guess Trump kind of scaled it
• 1:18:02
  back. But before that over the last
• 1:18:05
  few years. So I do think there are a lot of
• 1:18:07
  instances where it's abused. I thought you were gonna pull
• 1:18:10
  out a different example when you started with the when you
• 1:18:13
  started what you're saying. But because no, I do think it's.
• 1:18:16
  Because with that one, you can easily finish what you're sorry.
• 1:18:18
  Because with that one, you could definitely see that, yes,
• 1:18:23
  because even Michelle Obama said it like she's like, yes, there
• 1:18:25
  are flaws within the system of affirmative action.
• 1:18:28
  There's going to be flaws with a lot of different things that
• 1:18:30
  come in when it comes to like governmental body mints and
• 1:18:33
  trying to get an understanding is like how to sit, set up the
• 1:18:36
  system correctly. It's the same thing with IRS.
• 1:18:38
  It's the same thing with with with police forces.
• 1:18:40
  It's the same thing with the FBI.
• 1:18:42
  It's the same thing with with all these different
• 1:18:44
  organizations, right? But affirmative actions, thought
• 1:18:49
  process is just to an what? To an extent, because you're not
• 1:18:53
  thinking about putting all of these people into Harvard and
• 1:18:58
  saying you're going to get A's. You're giving some of these
• 1:19:01
  people opportunities to go into Harvard, but they still have to
• 1:19:05
  work hard. Even like if I, if I have a if I
• 1:19:08
  have a Hispanic man who has a summa cum laude in one fuck
• 1:19:15
  Florida, you know, and it's somewhere in the Everglades,
• 1:19:17
  right. But he can't go to Harvard
• 1:19:20
  because he doesn't have the money for it.
• 1:19:22
  While affirmative action can give him that opportunity to be
• 1:19:24
  like you are a 4.5 students. And even though you don't have
• 1:19:29
  the money for it, we're going to try and give you help you get
• 1:19:32
  scholarships. We're going to help you get
• 1:19:33
  these opportunities. And this is how it's going to
• 1:19:35
  help you get to Harvard. And this is going to give you
• 1:19:38
  the chance to continue your education.
• 1:19:40
  It's it's less of it's less of get all minorities in and more
• 1:19:46
  of get the correct people in those opportunities that don't
• 1:19:51
  have the money for it and and. I think that's what that's how I
• 1:19:55
  look at it though, is like that's the theory versus the
• 1:19:57
  practice is different though. It's hard.
• 1:19:59
  I think like in theory you're correct of like that is what was
• 1:20:02
  originally intended. I think that's correct, but I
• 1:20:06
  don't think it was practiced that way.
• 1:20:07
  I think when it was practiced and not every place, but there
• 1:20:11
  were places that were. Like there are studies that
• 1:20:14
  showed that like over, I forget exactly what year I want to say
• 1:20:18
  it's 2020 to 2021. I could be wrong, but there's
• 1:20:21
  studies to show that it's like 90% of hiring in most of the S&P
• 1:20:26
  500 companies were all minorities, which is again, if
• 1:20:31
  it was merit based, not a problem.
• 1:20:32
  Like I said, I if the best people to work, you know,
• 1:20:36
  whatever job are black people, if they're Mexican, if they're
• 1:20:40
  any form of Hispanic, Asian, white people, as long as they're
• 1:20:43
  the best people to work the job or the best people to be in that
• 1:20:46
  school, that's how I would do it.
• 1:20:48
  And when it comes to like the financial side of things that
• 1:20:51
  you were saying with college, how I would say it is like, I
• 1:20:53
  feel like most of these policies, we like DEI, stuff
• 1:20:57
  like that, we should be kind of getting rid of.
• 1:20:58
  But the schools, especially the more successful ones like
• 1:21:02
  Harvard, you know, this like Harvard has a budget of billion,
• 1:21:06
  like they have billions in their bank account.
• 1:21:08
  Harvard could afford to throw some scholarships around with
• 1:21:11
  their own money without having to subsidize that from the state
• 1:21:15
  or from the federal government. For DEI, practice it.
• 1:21:18
  Like I think if you want to institute those things, you can,
• 1:21:22
  but you should have to pay for it yourself at the very least.
• 1:21:25
  And like you also have to come with the idea of like, if you do
• 1:21:28
  those things, you might discredit yourselves if other
• 1:21:30
  people aren't. Like with DEI, it's like if
• 1:21:33
  everyone's doing it, it kind of makes a little more like, it
• 1:21:37
  kind of makes it a little more acceptable verse.
• 1:21:39
  If you only have a few schools really practicing DEI, they're
• 1:21:42
  almost going to lose a little bit of credibility among half
• 1:21:45
  the country at the very least. And that that's a pretty big
• 1:21:48
  hit. You know, if you lose, like all
• 1:21:51
  the support from conservatives, even if you're a more liberal
• 1:21:54
  university, it's still going to be a major hit on your
• 1:21:57
  university, not only financially, but like in your
• 1:21:59
  reputation. And that's something so I do.
• 1:22:01
  Think there needs to be like some change.
• 1:22:05
  I do agree it's like a weird, it's a weird delicate topic
• 1:22:09
  though, where it's like you don't want to like overcorrect,
• 1:22:12
  but I feel like there does need to be a little bit of correction
• 1:22:15
  because. And that's in.
• 1:22:16
  Theory and in practice it works different.
• 1:22:18
  Ways and that's and that's the beauty of like and that's the
• 1:22:20
  beauty of our system, right, is that you should be able to kind
• 1:22:22
  of like, OK, so we we set let's say, for example, we set
• 1:22:25
  affirmative action to like 100% and it feels like it's too much.
• 1:22:30
  Well then then we can work with like our constituents and say,
• 1:22:33
  OK, let's bring an action back down to like 70% or sorry, 60%.
• 1:22:38
  It doesn't feel like it's enough.
• 1:22:39
  And then we start to fine tune the specific things.
• 1:22:41
  It's the same thing with like when they made the car, right?
• 1:22:44
  They made the car and then they're starting to drive.
• 1:22:47
  Oh, my God. We got into an accident and I
• 1:22:49
  cracked my head on the windshield.
• 1:22:50
  OK, we're going to need seatbelts.
• 1:22:52
  There's something to protect us. OK, seatbelts work.
• 1:22:54
  Now I'm cracking my chest into the steering wheel and I'm.
• 1:22:57
  I think we. Didn't have seatbelts for like
• 1:22:58
  30 years after. That right, But, but what I'm I
• 1:23:00
  tell what you're saying, but you know what I'm saying.
• 1:23:02
  So like the the the thing I'm saying is that like we, we try
• 1:23:04
  to fine tune as much as we possibly can, but we need to
• 1:23:07
  have the base first. And if we have the base?
• 1:23:09
  I agree it's a working process. It's.
• 1:23:11
  Like the same thing with. 3rd, to expect everyone to get things
• 1:23:15
  right on the first or second time because I mean, that's a
• 1:23:17
  crazy. It's just as crazy to think that
• 1:23:20
  as it is like any of the other stuff.
• 1:23:21
  So it's like to assume for like them to get it correct in the
• 1:23:25
  when they're originally putting DEI and all these things out
• 1:23:28
  there, it's crazy to think that they were going to get it like
• 1:23:32
  we're talking about the federal government in here.
• 1:23:33
  I mean, how often do they actually get shit right?
• 1:23:35
  Yeah, rarely. So yeah, exactly.
• 1:23:37
  It's not a surprise that like these things, especially in the
• 1:23:40
  system we have where it's like, as much as everything's driven
• 1:23:44
  by politics, like even education and all these things, what is
• 1:23:48
  politics driven by? It's driven by money and donors,
• 1:23:50
  right? So it's like you really have to
• 1:23:52
  fix that problem before you can fix the other problems.
• 1:23:55
  If you can fix the problem of lobbying and corrupt NGOs,
• 1:23:59
  bureaucrats and waste, fraud and abuse, you could really correct
• 1:24:02
  a lot of those issues a lot easier because you have less.
• 1:24:06
  You know it's way easier to make a decision with two people in
• 1:24:08
  your ear than it is with 5th. You really like I'm I'm telling
• 1:24:11
  you, I'm telling you, James, you're so close.
• 1:24:13
  You're just, you see the door and you like you're right there
• 1:24:17
  with the. Pizza.
• 1:24:18
  Right there with but you see the door though.
• 1:24:21
  Again, this is the horseshoe theory.
• 1:24:22
  This is where the all right in the left align.
• 1:24:25
  It's just. Just because just because you're
• 1:24:26
  over here doesn't mean that you don't see the door.
• 1:24:28
  You see the door because like I agree, we need to get money on a
• 1:24:31
  but. Here's where I get conceived to
• 1:24:32
  you on stuff with that I was actually talking to.
• 1:24:36
  So I have a friend who's, I mean, he's a GOP guy.
• 1:24:39
  He's I'm never going to leave Trump and I respect again, I
• 1:24:43
  respect everyone's views. So I respect it.
• 1:24:46
  But I was debating him on it and I, I was kind of explaining to
• 1:24:52
  him like my positions on why I don't align or wait, I'm fixing
• 1:24:56
  this real quick. My Airpod is, yeah, go ahead,
• 1:24:58
  got something in there. But yeah, I was kind of
• 1:25:00
  explaining to him why like my views don't fully align with
• 1:25:03
  Donald Trump's anymore. And I, I was kind of explaining
• 1:25:09
  to him like, if what I try to push, which is I, I call it true
• 1:25:13
  American nationalism, if, if what I was trying to push
• 1:25:16
  actually happened, you could actually concede on a lot of
• 1:25:19
  liberal values within our society.
• 1:25:23
  It would just need to be financially possible.
• 1:25:25
  And it's, again, it's like, we'll probably agree on a lot of
• 1:25:27
  the same things, but disagree on the methods to get there.
• 1:25:29
  But like, I could concede on like healthcare for all
• 1:25:32
  Americans. I would just need it to be
• 1:25:34
  financially viable. And for that to happen, I would
• 1:25:37
  want to stop allowing legal and illegal immigrants to provide
• 1:25:40
  more money and better jobs for Americans while at the same time
• 1:25:43
  stopping all foreign aid and limiting our trades to only
• 1:25:46
  countries where it's like, I would want to make like an
• 1:25:49
  insane amount of changes and like also an insane amount of
• 1:25:52
  you, I'd want to get some of the debt down.
• 1:25:54
  But it's like if you could make a lot of these changes to
• 1:25:57
  restore value back to the dollar.
• 1:25:59
  And if you restore a lot of value back to the US dollar,
• 1:26:01
  then you can bring the debt down a lot easier.
• 1:26:04
  And if we can do that and if we can be a profitable nation, I
• 1:26:08
  mean, we could do things like free healthcare, we could do
• 1:26:11
  things that are more liberal values like that.
• 1:26:14
  But it's something where it's like we'll probably agree on
• 1:26:17
  like we both kind of want that, but it's like, how do we get
• 1:26:20
  that? Like you could even say like the
• 1:26:22
  mass student loan forgiveness, Like I, I kind of view that as a
• 1:26:25
  positive in a lot of ways. I just don't agree with like, I
• 1:26:30
  think they should have done it instead of PPP loans.
• 1:26:32
  The fact that they forgave those was crazy to me.
• 1:26:35
  But after they did that, and like, after we saw they raised
• 1:26:38
  the debt ceiling another $5 trillion, it's like, do we
• 1:26:41
  really have the money to bail out college kids?
• 1:26:44
  We don't have it in our budget. Keep raising the.
• 1:26:46
  Ceiling Create a system where we have it in our.
• 1:26:48
  Budget, yeah, like I would, I would even, I would even push
• 1:26:50
  like maybe I don't know if this is extreme.
• 1:26:52
  I don't think it's extreme. But like, in order for you to
• 1:26:53
  print money, you need to get approval by the House and the
• 1:26:56
  Senate, if they're the keepers of the purse, in order for you
• 1:27:01
  to even get approval. I don't know if I have to look
• 1:27:03
  at it. I maybe maybe they're already
• 1:27:05
  doing. That I think they do, but I
• 1:27:06
  don't know for. Sure.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah, I. Should know that, but I don't.
• 1:27:08
  I'll double, I'll double check, but like it should.
• 1:27:10
  Be I would say that I just it, it's beyond just like printing
• 1:27:14
  more dollars. It's we need to.
• 1:27:16
  It's also things like we need to tax like the the tax codes
• 1:27:19
  waxed. It's also like how how we're
• 1:27:22
  spending our money. Tax is a scam like Social
• 1:27:25
  Security is a scam. That's the thing I really don't
• 1:27:27
  like. I want to get rid of Social
• 1:27:28
  Security. Well, I mean.
• 1:27:30
  And a lot of people don't agree with.
• 1:27:31
  Me, I, I don't, I don't. But I I I understand why you're
• 1:27:34
  saying it. I give you my quick argument on
• 1:27:36
  it. Go for it.
• 1:27:38
  You're paying it and I'm paying it, but we'll never get it.
• 1:27:41
  It's it's we're paying someone else's, but we'll never receive
• 1:27:44
  it because it will run out. But it's the fault of the, but
• 1:27:46
  it's the fault of the government using things like Social
• 1:27:48
  Security for their whatever their spending is.
• 1:27:50
  And that's the problem is that because they're using specific
• 1:27:52
  things that they should not be touching whatsoever, and and.
• 1:27:55
  I'm not saying people shouldn't get it in perpetuity.
• 1:27:58
  My only point is I I think they should stop it right now.
• 1:28:01
  Like, I think we should look at it very objectively in the sense
• 1:28:04
  of who created the mess for this nation, realistically, boomers
• 1:28:08
  and older generations, the generations who are cons right
• 1:28:11
  now cashing our Social Security checks.
• 1:28:14
  And I get they paid into it, that there is some legitimacy to
• 1:28:18
  that argument and you got to make that back hole.
• 1:28:21
  But at the same time, forcing young people to pay into it now
• 1:28:25
  when they'll never get it, at the very least, what they should
• 1:28:27
  do is stop young people from you should take the cut off point of
• 1:28:31
  like, hey, we're going to run out of Social Security money in
• 1:28:33
  this year and say if you fall under this year, you just don't
• 1:28:35
  have to fucking pay it anymore. I guess the problem there is
• 1:28:38
  then it would run out a little bit sooner and you gotta.
• 1:28:41
  I'm sure there's some algorithm they could create to figure out
• 1:28:43
  that timeline, but. With that, with that kind of.
• 1:28:45
  I just, I hate the idea that I pay it and I'll never.
• 1:28:47
  Get it? It's it's hard to cut something
• 1:28:49
  cold Turkey like that. Like it seems like if if you
• 1:28:51
  make it too steep it will destroy people's lives and
• 1:28:56
  potentially crash the economy. But if you do.
• 1:28:58
  It that's the thing. I mean, I don't want to like
• 1:29:00
  hurt old people percent. I don't want them to be like
• 1:29:02
  shaken. I don't want old people to go
• 1:29:04
  off to get jobs at fucking Dollar Tree to like supplement
• 1:29:07
  their income. Now I just want I just want some
• 1:29:11
  form of I I don't expect fairness again, like I don't
• 1:29:14
  expect life to be fair. I don't expect the country to be
• 1:29:17
  fair. That's not I don't think life is
• 1:29:19
  supposed to be fair, but I do. Would you agree with like a
• 1:29:22
  temporary great great compression?
• 1:29:24
  Would you like like a temporary like maybe like 1010 year, 15
• 1:29:28
  year great compression? Do you know what that is?
• 1:29:31
  No. What?
• 1:29:31
  What is it so? So the great compression was
• 1:29:34
  something that they actually did in, I believe it was the 40s,
• 1:29:37
  It, it was after World war, after World War 2.
• 1:29:40
  They were financially in the fucking shit.
• 1:29:43
  They were in the fucking heaps of shit.
• 1:29:46
  So what they did was they they set up a something in the tax
• 1:29:50
  code where it was like a specific dollar amount after you
• 1:29:52
  let's say like $100,000 in in their time.
• 1:29:55
  If passive income after your 100 hundred and $1.00, that dollar
• 1:30:01
  gets taxed at a higher percentage than it would
• 1:30:03
  normally get taxed. I see, I know, I know, but
• 1:30:06
  that's where I come from. I come from the idea like
• 1:30:08
  because. It would just stop growth.
• 1:30:10
  I can. I can see what you're saying and
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  I don't. I wouldn't say 100.
• 1:30:13
  It's not like a shill for big corporations either.
• 1:30:15
  But we do need. I would say $100,000.
• 1:30:18
  I would, I would do it like at a higher amount.
• 1:30:19
  So because you have to, you have to.
• 1:30:21
  No, I get it. Like you'd probably frame it
• 1:30:22
  closer to like a billion or something, but still I I would
• 1:30:26
  still even. It's, it's hard because it's
• 1:30:28
  like the, the, the issue is, is that like from what the tax code
• 1:30:31
  is right now, there's a lot of, there's a lot of underlying
• 1:30:35
  loopholes that are unfortunately being over, over abused.
• 1:30:39
  Even the president said in his. First, I think they should close
• 1:30:41
  the loophole, right? My tax system that I propose, a
• 1:30:44
  lot of people don't agree with it, but I propose and it's
• 1:30:47
  actually the same thing Charlie Kirk said 10% flat tax for
• 1:30:50
  everybody with no write offs at all.
• 1:30:52
  And technically could kind of affects the lower income people
• 1:30:55
  a little bit more for sure. But my goal with that is like
• 1:31:00
  if, if Elon's paying 10% taxes with no write offs, if Bezos is
• 1:31:05
  paying 10% with no write off like Tesla and Amazon, I guess
• 1:31:08
  because their salaries are like a dollar.
• 1:31:10
  But if their companies are paying the 10% with no write
• 1:31:14
  offs, it will provide enough money to the country that like
• 1:31:17
  overtime, we can kind of get to that place that I'm talking
• 1:31:19
  about where value is restored to the dollar and we can actually
• 1:31:24
  have a, you know, concede on some of these values.
• 1:31:27
  And that's. The thing right is that like
• 1:31:28
  that's, that's all that's a lesser version of the of the
• 1:31:32
  compression as of what I'm talking about.
• 1:31:34
  Because like you could, you could set it up to that where
• 1:31:37
  it's just like they just pay 10% flat and they don't like, if you
• 1:31:40
  make a business that's worth like let's say you make a, a, a
• 1:31:44
  $500 million worth business, right?
• 1:31:47
  Your passive income you're just going to start doing flat and
• 1:31:50
  you don't get write offs like that.
• 1:31:51
  Could be something. That also my society I propose
• 1:31:54
  doesn't have like people have the ability to get that rich,
• 1:31:57
  but not really on the individual, like kind of, but
• 1:32:01
  are you for citizens in the society that I pitch?
• 1:32:03
  Are you for Citizens United? It's like, no, it's more like.
• 1:32:09
  So the way I phrase it is how much on a blank right now?
• 1:32:13
  But what were you saying? One second you would you.
• 1:32:17
  Would cap their wealth basically if it gets to to to.
• 1:32:20
  No, it's not that. It's just the fact that I
• 1:32:23
  remembered what I was saying. It's if you look at like
• 1:32:26
  Amazon's labor for, and I know we're going to disagree on this,
• 1:32:28
  but if you look at Amazon's labor force, if you look at
• 1:32:30
  Tesla's labor force, if you look at the people who like they're
• 1:32:34
  paying. Like Donald Trump is a good
• 1:32:36
  example. He is the most anti immigration
• 1:32:39
  president you know everyone would say but realistically
• 1:32:41
  Donald Trump brings in a ton of legal immigrants.
• 1:32:44
  Just not like he's very good about illegal immigration is
• 1:32:47
  stopping that. But he brings in a ton of legal
• 1:32:49
  immigrants under certain visas for primarily companies like
• 1:32:53
  Amazon and Tesla. And it's one of the reasons
• 1:32:56
  these companies are able to get so wealthy is because they're
• 1:32:58
  not paying American wages. They're not paying true American
• 1:33:01
  wages. Like most of the jobs that
• 1:33:03
  should be paying 80K are paying 40K and they're paying 40K
• 1:33:06
  because the people will accept it because they have no other
• 1:33:09
  option, because they're in this country for that job.
• 1:33:12
  And that's kind of the thing. It's like if you could get rid
• 1:33:15
  of the immigration labor, the legal immigration labor, along
• 1:33:18
  with the illegal immigration labor.
• 1:33:21
  It's not that they won't be able to get rich, these CEO's and you
• 1:33:24
  won't see billionaires. It's just you won't see as many
• 1:33:26
  and you won't see them rise as fast because they're not
• 1:33:28
  exploiting, you know, the bottom half of the labor pool for way
• 1:33:33
  less dollars. I probably I could understand
• 1:33:36
  where you're coming from. I think what I would want to do
• 1:33:39
  is probably stop the monopolization of these
• 1:33:41
  companies. I think that's an.
• 1:33:43
  Issue that as well. That is together on.
• 1:33:45
  That so fucking crazy. Lot of big monopoly.
• 1:33:48
  Lots of big like. I mean, you wanna hear something
• 1:33:50
  crazy? Israel just bought their 8th.
• 1:33:52
  Israel just bought their 8th VPN company, right?
• 1:33:55
  They own pretty much all the major VPN.
• 1:33:56
  Company, right? Like that's a that's a problem.
• 1:33:58
  You should not be able to have a monopoly so powerful.
• 1:34:01
  Like if you look at what Disney owned specifically the amount of
• 1:34:04
  things that they own you, it's monopoly.
• 1:34:07
  That's not a, that's not a Yeah, that's not a, a, a hyperbole.
• 1:34:10
  They also don't pay tax. Like exactly.
• 1:34:12
  They're their own exactly thing exactly.
• 1:34:13
  So because they don't pay taxes on the monopoly that they've
• 1:34:16
  been able to create, they're able to gain more revenue into
• 1:34:19
  their system and able to still raise the prices on our fucking
• 1:34:21
  tickets to go to the parks like that.
• 1:34:23
  They're able to take as much money as from your pocket as
• 1:34:27
  much as you possibly can. And because you don't have an
• 1:34:29
  ability to stop that because of their monopoly, they're going to
• 1:34:32
  continue to do so. And, and, and one of the things
• 1:34:35
  that I have an issue with is monopolies, but I also have an
• 1:34:38
  issue with the money that they take and throw it into pockets
• 1:34:42
  of the, of members of the right, the left, the center, any
• 1:34:46
  politician like money needs to be removed.
• 1:34:49
  And that's, that's an extreme thing that you need to get
• 1:34:51
  extreme people in to these positions of power to get to get
• 1:34:54
  that done. Because you will not get it done
• 1:34:56
  with this, with this administration, the last
• 1:34:59
  administration, the administration before that, and
• 1:35:01
  potentially other future administrations until you get
• 1:35:04
  people with not necessarily extreme views, but way more of
• 1:35:11
  an intensive view that they have now.
• 1:35:13
  As long as they agree that money needs to get out of politics,
• 1:35:17
  period, bar none. Until our generations in
• 1:35:19
  politics it won't happen. Exactly and it's crazy to think
• 1:35:22
  about but it's like we live in such a deal.
• 1:35:24
  I say this all the time and I get shit on my on my shows for
• 1:35:27
  saying it, but I don't care people who are older and it's
• 1:35:33
  not to like write them off completely.
• 1:35:34
  They're smart in their own ways, but they're way Dumber than us.
• 1:35:37
  And it's not saying that like every Gen.
• 1:35:39
  Z or Gen. alpha kid is a fucking genius.
• 1:35:42
  It's just to say that like, if you know how to use the Internet
• 1:35:44
  at a good level, if you know how to mass market on social media,
• 1:35:47
  if you know how to, if you know how to work your phone without
• 1:35:51
  your grandson fucking helping you, you're automatically like
• 1:35:54
  you're smarter than everyone else who does.
• 1:35:56
  Like we live in a technological society and other generations
• 1:36:01
  don't understand things like like an example I give all the
• 1:36:05
  time is like a 12 year old gets more information in a 10 minute
• 1:36:10
  span scrolling through TikTok. Then a boomer gets in one month
• 1:36:14
  watching CNN or Fox News and like it's almost undisputable.
• 1:36:17
  They they retain more information and they learn more
• 1:36:20
  information. They're fast thinkers on the on
• 1:36:22
  these phones and and iPads, man, they're fucking quick.
• 1:36:26
  Yeah, I mean, it's definitely like there's a lot of downsides
• 1:36:29
  to the rise in technology with social things.
• 1:36:31
  You know, like as much as we're more social online, we're less
• 1:36:34
  social in person. I think that's kind of a
• 1:36:37
  problem. But at the same time, I do think
• 1:36:40
  it's created a whole new level of intelligence that just didn't
• 1:36:43
  exist before where it's like, if you know how, if you can ask
• 1:36:46
  market on social media, you are instantly smarter than everyone
• 1:36:49
  who does not know how to. Because real power in a nation
• 1:36:53
  is not, I mean, real power is money.
• 1:36:55
  But beyond money, real power to me is being able to mobilize
• 1:37:00
  young men, if you can mobilize. Because like I was saying, young
• 1:37:04
  men are the people who can make and break a nation when it comes
• 1:37:06
  to war. Like if a civil war is fought,
• 1:37:08
  it's going to be. Men, I see what you're saying.
• 1:37:09
  For the most part, I see what you're saying.
• 1:37:10
  Young men. So it's like if you have the
• 1:37:12
  ability to have a voice strong enough to mobilize millions of
• 1:37:15
  young men, you're more powerful than the president at a point.
• 1:37:19
  Like you are more powerful than almost anything.
• 1:37:21
  You could. People who have that ability
• 1:37:24
  have the ultimate pat like they could like he never would, I
• 1:37:29
  don't think. But Nick Fuentes realistically,
• 1:37:31
  or like Charlie Kirk when he was alive, could have started the
• 1:37:33
  civil war the tomorrow, you know, the next day with one
• 1:37:37
  tweet, with one video with one like, hey everyone, it's fucking
• 1:37:41
  time. It's go time.
• 1:37:42
  Let's fucking roll with one video.
• 1:37:46
  Charlie Kirk could have had 10 million, you know, Gen.
• 1:37:48
  Z young male standing in DC at the front gates.
• 1:37:51
  And it takes a lot of responsibility to like, not do
• 1:37:54
  things like that. But I think that's the
• 1:37:56
  definition of what true power really is.
• 1:37:59
  Is like how, how, what's your ability to mobilize young men
• 1:38:04
  around the country? And when you have that, I think
• 1:38:07
  you hold more cards than almost anyone else in the long run.
• 1:38:10
  Maybe not in the short term, but in the long term.
• 1:38:12
  Sure. Because like, well, I can, I can
• 1:38:13
  understand that because it's like one of those things where
• 1:38:15
  it's like the people with they when they have their leader, the
• 1:38:19
  people will rise with that leader.
• 1:38:22
  So if you look at someone like Martin Luther King, right from
• 1:38:24
  what I remember reading, it took like it was like a 200 or some
• 1:38:30
  crazy amount of miles. How?
• 1:38:31
  How long did he March MLK? MLK had some.
• 1:38:35
  Did you read the MLK files? I haven't read it, no.
• 1:38:39
  The March fucked. Up stuff I will say like not
• 1:38:43
  going to discredit things he did outside of the stuff I'm going
• 1:38:46
  to say here, but like he there allegedly in the MLK files, he
• 1:38:51
  sat in a room with one of his buddies watching a woman get
• 1:38:55
  raped and he was laughing as they were doing it.
• 1:38:57
  Oh, I'm going to. I'm going to respectfully
• 1:39:03
  disagree for the moment because I've not read the files.
• 1:39:05
  I I I thought. No, yeah, that's what that's one
• 1:39:08
  of the things I read in there. I mean it's CIAFBI notes so it
• 1:39:12
  could be false as well. The only thing I do not like.
• 1:39:16
  I I there. Are things that are like.
• 1:39:17
  He did cheat a lot and he did have a tendency to beat his wife
• 1:39:21
  a bit. I do remember his, but that
• 1:39:22
  doesn't mean. He was doing those.
• 1:39:24
  Things. But yeah, I do remember his
• 1:39:25
  promiscuity. But I will say like, how Can you
• 1:39:28
  believe anything that they put out even oh God, even like JFK,
• 1:39:34
  how Can you believe that when they fucked up on so many
• 1:39:38
  things? They've been showing nothing,
• 1:39:40
  but especially with Charlie Kirk stuff, nothing but fuck up after
• 1:39:43
  fuck up after fuck up. The he took the guns apart, put
• 1:39:46
  it back together, then throw it into the forest.
• 1:39:48
  He actually kept it the whole thing and put it in his pants
• 1:39:50
  leg. He this he got, you know, he
• 1:39:54
  thinks this way because of his roommate.
• 1:39:56
  Oh, the roommates, they're actually partners or that the
• 1:39:59
  family tournament or the partner turned him in or his friends on
• 1:40:01
  this court turned him in. It's like, or he turned himself
• 1:40:04
  in. It's like you guys are messing
• 1:40:06
  this up so badly and you guys are letting them fucking dog
• 1:40:10
  walk the shit out of you on just this case and.
• 1:40:14
  And more importantly, the Epstein files, what did, why did
• 1:40:17
  you just put out a phase one, say that you had it on your desk
• 1:40:21
  and then not release it whatsoever?
• 1:40:24
  Because Trump is saying, are we really talking about it now?
• 1:40:27
  Do we really care? Well, how can I?
• 1:40:29
  Believe. Did you hear?
• 1:40:30
  Trump said. Trump said he was an informant
• 1:40:32
  in the Epstein case and that's why he wasn't talking about it.
• 1:40:36
  Not yet. I don't believe it either, but
• 1:40:37
  it's just like what the fuck? It's like, so I don't know, the,
• 1:40:40
  the investigation on Epstein I think ended like it ended this
• 1:40:44
  year. I think it was like July 7th, I
• 1:40:46
  think it was. But like, you could still have
• 1:40:48
  released the files no matter what because that's something
• 1:40:51
  that was not part of the investigation, but he was trying
• 1:40:54
  to release. I don't think they could have
• 1:40:55
  for the sole reason that I don't think they exist.
• 1:40:57
  I don't think they exist. It's not me defending the Trump
• 1:40:59
  administration. I just I think, I think he
• 1:41:02
  weaponized. The overwhelming evidence shows
• 1:41:04
  that it was Israel who financed Epstein.
• 1:41:06
  And if that's true, if it was Mossad then I just don't see
• 1:41:12
  like how America would even have.
• 1:41:14
  Like maybe people like specific people in the CIA would have
• 1:41:17
  access to it, but it's like, I don't think the files ever even
• 1:41:20
  existed in America. I think he weaponized it against
• 1:41:24
  the people to get his votes. That's what I think.
• 1:41:27
  I I agree with you. I don't think the files exist.
• 1:41:29
  Definitely played it up for sure.
• 1:41:31
  He played it up because he knew well, not necessarily just him,
• 1:41:34
  but his all, his entire administration and the people
• 1:41:36
  that he wanted to get into the administration, every single one
• 1:41:40
  of them completely were hyping it up because they wanted to get
• 1:41:44
  those votes, because they knew that the American people on the
• 1:41:48
  right wanted these files out, JFKMLK, even 9/11 files.
• 1:41:53
  They wanted all these files out. But instead.
• 1:41:56
  Did you watch Tucker Carlson's 911 They?
• 1:41:58
  Haven't watched it yet. I'm I'm a oh shit I haven't
• 1:42:02
  shown you. Oh hold on, I'm letting the desk
• 1:42:08
  fucking rise. OK, so context, I'm an avid 9/11
• 1:42:14
  researcher. Like, not conspiracy theorist
• 1:42:16
  researcher. So you're going to see.
• 1:42:18
  I'm a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. You're.
• 1:42:20
  Going to see right there even though the the the light is kind
• 1:42:23
  of blocking it. Oh fuck you can't see it.
• 1:42:24
  Shit. OK, hold on a second.
• 1:42:25
  There's a little glare. There's a little glare on it.
• 1:42:30
  Look at that shit. Look at that.
• 1:42:34
  I can't read it. Yeah, OK.
• 1:42:38
  So I found it on Etsy and I said, I need this in my house
• 1:42:47
  and I said I'm keeping this forever.
• 1:42:49
  But like I, I fell down like the, the scientific rabbit hole
• 1:42:53
  of like learning about how the buildings fell and all this
• 1:42:55
  other stuff. Then I started reading the FBI
• 1:42:57
  data and being like, oh, you guys knew that they were there,
• 1:43:00
  but you couldn't do anything because they didn't have any
• 1:43:02
  proof or actual understanding it.
• 1:43:04
  Like you couldn't prove that they were going to do these
• 1:43:06
  things. But then you start to read that
• 1:43:08
  we were training them in the Taliban.
• 1:43:10
  We were training these people during Reagan and like you.
• 1:43:13
  Think did 9/11. Who do I think did 9/11?
• 1:43:18
  Definitely Al Qaeda. But the you think it was Osama.
• 1:43:20
  I think it was al Qaeda that was funded by the Saudis because
• 1:43:24
  it's because you see. Do you think the United States
• 1:43:26
  or Israel was involved? I definitely think that the the,
• 1:43:30
  the United States had an unfortunate involvement because
• 1:43:34
  we trained them in during that timeframe because we were
• 1:43:38
  fighting them. We were fighting the, we were
• 1:43:41
  fighting Russia with the Taliban when they were in Afghanistan.
• 1:43:45
  We fought them during that time. So we trained Al Qaeda and we
• 1:43:48
  trained the Taliban to become what they were.
• 1:43:51
  And then when we started being buddy buddy with the Saudis, Al
• 1:43:54
  Qaeda got fucking pissed about it because the al Qaeda was
• 1:43:57
  being funded by the Saudis as well.
• 1:43:59
  So it was this whole like money issue.
• 1:44:02
  And so when we got attacked, you can see like the numbers going
• 1:44:06
  through from Afghanistan and from Saudi Arabia and like the
• 1:44:09
  people that we are buddy, buddy, buddy with.
• 1:44:11
  But I could. Oh God, I don't know about
• 1:44:14
  Israel. I haven't, I haven't read that.
• 1:44:16
  I don't know about if they did it.
• 1:44:17
  But I'll give you 2 things to look up which why I think Israel
• 1:44:21
  is pretty involved. OK, give me, give me.
• 1:44:23
  One would be the Israeli art students.
• 1:44:27
  If you just Google Israeli art students 911, you should find
• 1:44:30
  some stuff. But I could send you some direct
• 1:44:32
  articles too. But they entered the 9/11, they
• 1:44:35
  entered the Twin towers with big, big, I mean, like moving
• 1:44:39
  massive amounts of equipment very secretly.
• 1:44:43
  They were all under the guide. They weren't actual art
• 1:44:45
  students. They just claimed to be art
• 1:44:47
  students. And they were generally Mossad
• 1:44:49
  representatives. And then there's also another
• 1:44:52
  thing. We're directly following the
• 1:44:54
  attacks. They all tried to enter.
• 1:44:56
  A lot of, you know, thousands of these art students tried to
• 1:44:58
  enter government buildings. And then a couple other things
• 1:45:03
  would be the dancing Israelis. There was five men from Israel
• 1:45:09
  dancing, celebrating the attack and filming the towers falling.
• 1:45:13
  And when they were lie detect, what's the word for a lie
• 1:45:18
  detector test? When they were put under a lie
• 1:45:19
  detector test, they failed it. And they were two of them were
• 1:45:25
  known to be Mossad 2 of the five.
• 1:45:26
  And their exact quote was we knew the attack was going to
• 1:45:29
  happen. We were here to document it.
• 1:45:31
  So there was, it was kind of clear from that that they kind
• 1:45:35
  of knew something. Another big thing would be Larry
• 1:45:37
  Silverstein. I'm sure you know who he is.
• 1:45:39
  He was the owner of the building.
• 1:45:40
  I did hear that. Yeah.
• 1:45:41
  Larry Silverstein bought terrorist insurance on the
• 1:45:44
  buildings just a couple months prior to the 9/11 attacks.
• 1:45:48
  And he'd never missed a single day of work until 9/11.
• 1:45:51
  I'll have to. I'll have to look into that.
• 1:45:54
  For sure, it's some interesting stuff and I probably won't
• 1:45:58
  convince you right here, right now, but if you're that into
• 1:46:00
  911, I urge you to look into specifically the art students
• 1:46:03
  and the dancing Israelis. But then the Silverstein aspect,
• 1:46:07
  kind of he he's a outspoken Zionist donor to Israel as well.
• 1:46:13
  Well, I would I would very connected.
• 1:46:14
  I can, I can see where like that where where that kind of like
• 1:46:18
  falls in, you know, like I can see where that like becomes.
• 1:46:21
  And for sure, do you know the guy who stands behind Trump all
• 1:46:25
  the time? The bald guy, Howard Lutnick.
• 1:46:27
  Shit, I have. To He's in Trump's cabinet, he's
• 1:46:30
  the secretary of commerce or something, Howard.
• 1:46:35
  Lutt, he's he comes up with 911 as well.
• 1:46:38
  Yeah, because he owned Cantor Fitzgerald.
• 1:46:42
  And if you know about 911, Cantor Fitzgerald was the
• 1:46:44
  company that the plane flew right into.
• 1:46:46
  Yeah, I'll have to. I'll have to look back, but.
• 1:46:49
  You don't think, but you don't think that.
• 1:46:50
  You don't think that Tower 7 collapsed on.
• 1:46:53
  It's like like it was a controlled demolition.
• 1:46:54
  You don't believe that, right? Because I'll tell you why I.
• 1:46:58
  Think that the entire thing. I think all the buildings were
• 1:47:00
  lined with bombs, including the Pentagon.
• 1:47:05
  James. Like I think I see I do I do.
• 1:47:09
  The Pentagon is one of the craziest one.
• 1:47:11
  The Pentagon 1 is a wild footage for like 6 years.
• 1:47:13
  I went into the end I. Went into Here's a crazy
• 1:47:15
  Pentagon I went. Into the Museum of 911 and like
• 1:47:18
  they have like you see all of the videos.
• 1:47:22
  The 9/11 memorials in Saints, I mean, I've seen like my dad
• 1:47:26
  worked in the towers before. My dad had an interview there
• 1:47:29
  that day and didn't go. My dad was supposed to be in the
• 1:47:31
  towers that day on 9/11. Thank God that your dad wasn't
• 1:47:34
  there. Think off of that.
• 1:47:36
  Yeah, but. I remember I said that once on
• 1:47:38
  stream and people were like you're massad and I'm like no.
• 1:47:41
  Dude, I see Catholic see, see, like it just gets to that point
• 1:47:45
  where it's like, Oh my God, my, my, my, what?
• 1:47:49
  A firefighter's part of Assad now.
• 1:47:50
  Like, like that's what's so crazy about these theories.
• 1:47:54
  That's why I'm like, I'll look into it, but like I'm going in
• 1:47:57
  with like a very level head because like, like I can see.
• 1:48:01
  Here's why I think the Pentagon thing is really weird is do you
• 1:48:04
  know Donald Rumsfeld was? I do know Rumsfeld.
• 1:48:07
  Yeah. Yeah, I know.
• 1:48:08
  So. Rumsfeld was obviously very,
• 1:48:10
  very corrupt. He was the weapons of mass
• 1:48:12
  destructions guy. Yeah, but Rumsfeld, a couple
• 1:48:15
  days before it was either the day before, a couple days before
• 1:48:18
  9/11 went, did a press conference and said that $2
• 1:48:22
  trillion was missing. And then he said something
• 1:48:25
  weirdly cryptic. He said there's things we know
• 1:48:27
  we know. There's things we don't know we
• 1:48:29
  know, and then there are things we don't know.
• 1:48:31
  We don't know and we'll never know those things.
• 1:48:34
  And it was like a very cryptic, weird thing to say.
• 1:48:36
  You should. It's a weird clip to watch.
• 1:48:39
  But then right after after he says the Pentagon can't track $2
• 1:48:42
  trillion, the plane allegedly hits the part of the Pentagon
• 1:48:47
  that could track that 2 trillion.
• 1:48:49
  Which I like, I could, I could see like see, and that's the
• 1:48:52
  problem, right? Is that like if something gets
• 1:48:54
  hit where it almost almost perfectly aligns with like a
• 1:49:00
  sheer coincidence, it can see it can be perceived as a non
• 1:49:04
  coincidence? So what I mean by that is like
• 1:49:06
  like this Howard, not Howard like Silverstein, right?
• 1:49:12
  Like I can see like the Silverstein thing being a
• 1:49:15
  conspiracy theory, but for me, I think there's, for me, it
• 1:49:20
  doesn't answer the question of like, why would he go and
• 1:49:22
  rebuild the Trade Center? Why would he go back and rebuild
• 1:49:25
  it and, and, and fix it up to become better than what it was
• 1:49:29
  previously? Like that's the thing that I'm
• 1:49:31
  like about, you know, So what I. He had government contracts at
• 1:49:36
  it. For sure like.
• 1:49:36
  Howard Ludwick and Silverstein both became billionaire like
• 1:49:40
  they were already very wealthy, but they became billionaires.
• 1:49:42
  Also, Oh yeah, the the insurance. 9/11 made multiple
• 1:49:45
  people billionaires. Should I will tell you this
• 1:49:47
  right now, and this is just coming from me, because when you
• 1:49:50
  go in, so you go into the museum, you go down to the first
• 1:49:56
  floor, it takes you through the 1st portion of it.
• 1:49:58
  You hear all. Of the Pentagon one.
• 1:50:00
  No, the the the 9/11 1. So like, you've got the
• 1:50:03
  memorial. Pieces I've seen the New York
• 1:50:05
  one, I've been there like 50 you've.
• 1:50:06
  Been to the museum already. Like in the museum?
• 1:50:11
  No, I haven't been in the museum.
• 1:50:12
  I've been to the memorial. So.
• 1:50:13
  When you. Go and I've been through the
• 1:50:14
  little walkway. OK, when you go back to the
• 1:50:16
  memorial, go into the museum because you'll see, you'll see
• 1:50:20
  like the pylons that they had that were set up, you'll see
• 1:50:24
  pieces that they still have, like remnants from the building
• 1:50:26
  itself. You'll see a whole section
• 1:50:29
  though, where it talks about the firefighters, the the, the first
• 1:50:33
  responders, everybody that went in that came back out that
• 1:50:36
  suffered from all of the the pile issues, horrendous.
• 1:50:43
  And the amount of medication that they had to take and the
• 1:50:47
  amount of doctor visits that they took and the amount of
• 1:50:51
  revenue that they weren't able, that they weren't being funded
• 1:50:54
  to their to their cause. And to me personally, this is
• 1:50:59
  where I become a little extreme. People like Lutnick, people like
• 1:51:04
  Silverstein that had these buildings that got tax write
• 1:51:08
  offs because because of the insurance, all of that money
• 1:51:12
  should have been taken by the government and used for the
• 1:51:14
  people that saved the lives of the people that were in the
• 1:51:16
  buildings. And the people that suffered
• 1:51:19
  from all of the dust, all of the pile, all the metal, all of the
• 1:51:22
  debris and the poison that was going to affect them from this
• 1:51:26
  point forward. People are still suffering from
• 1:51:28
  it to. Watch the movie Worth.
• 1:51:31
  It's a crazy movie where they try and determine the worth of
• 1:51:34
  all the people who died on 9/11. Yeah, although for their
• 1:51:37
  families, it's crazy movie. How that it's crazy when you see
• 1:51:40
  that process, like, you don't think about that process a lot.
• 1:51:44
  When you see these tragic events, like you, you, you
• 1:51:47
  understand that like the family's going to get some form
• 1:51:49
  of a payout, whether it's from the company, the insurance or
• 1:51:53
  the government. But you don't like think about
• 1:51:55
  like they're determining the worth off of your mortgage, what
• 1:51:59
  you made. And like all these weird other
• 1:52:01
  things that like, is that really what we all boil down to is
• 1:52:05
  like, am I is, you know, my family's future worth, what my
• 1:52:09
  net worth was currently when I dealt?
• 1:52:10
  Like it's a weird concept to think.
• 1:52:12
  About and like, and that's the thing, right, is that like for
• 1:52:15
  me, like it's such an it's such a unfortunate thing that
• 1:52:18
  happened to our country that the government should have.
• 1:52:21
  And this is where, like I said, I'm being a little bit more
• 1:52:23
  extreme. Like they should have really
• 1:52:24
  stepped in and said you the money that you got from the
• 1:52:27
  buildings that were attacked, it is going to be used for these
• 1:52:31
  firefighters. It's going to be used for the
• 1:52:32
  first responders. It's going to be used for the
• 1:52:34
  citizens that are suffered under your building.
• 1:52:38
  Then we can reimburse you afterwards.
• 1:52:40
  But right now the people matter more.
• 1:52:43
  And that would have that would have been, that probably would
• 1:52:47
  have even destroyed like the conspiracy theories that we have
• 1:52:50
  now where they've made billions of dollars from this thing and
• 1:52:53
  now they're even more wealthy because of the insurance, you
• 1:52:56
  know what I mean? Like that would have.
• 1:52:57
  Probably another big reason they I just thought of it too but why
• 1:52:59
  they rebuilt the buildings up. Another big conspiracy on why
• 1:53:03
  they wanted to bring them down in the 1st place is there's
• 1:53:06
  rumors that. And this isn't a crazy rumor
• 1:53:08
  either because I mean, I, I lived up in that area, so I know
• 1:53:12
  how buildings in New York and all that work.
• 1:53:14
  They said that the building was lined and filled with asbestos.
• 1:53:17
  And they were eventually, because of the change in the
• 1:53:19
  laws with asbestos or in the 90s that they were going to have to
• 1:53:25
  like basically take the buildings down and rebuild them
• 1:53:28
  from scratch. And what's a better way to,
• 1:53:30
  like, why pay to rebuild the buildings when you can have the
• 1:53:33
  government do it and you can essentially collect billions of
• 1:53:37
  dollars and get, you know, billions in government contracts
• 1:53:39
  on it? So that's another, like,
• 1:53:41
  conspiracy angle. I'm going to send you the Tucker
• 1:53:43
  Carlson thing. Send it to me.
• 1:53:44
  I want to look at. It I don't agree with Tucker on
• 1:53:46
  a lot too, but it is a very, it's like a bipartisan like
• 1:53:50
  it's, it's not political in the sense of like right and left.
• 1:53:53
  This documentary. It's really just straightforward
• 1:53:55
  of like I'm investigating 9/11, I'm interviewing this person
• 1:53:59
  from the CIA. I'm interviewing this FBI agent,
• 1:54:02
  I'm interviewing mayor of, you know, like it's a lot of
• 1:54:05
  interviews and a lot of like non biased political stuff.
• 1:54:09
  So it's I do like non bias from like a Republican Democrats.
• 1:54:12
  I do support his push though on people like Ted Cruz though.
• 1:54:14
  I do support him. Like you're being paid a lot of
• 1:54:17
  money by these people. Why are you being paid by these
• 1:54:19
  people? Reeling on APEC?
• 1:54:20
  Really. Do you follow APEC tracker I.
• 1:54:22
  Don't but I if I. Follow APEC tracker on TikTok if
• 1:54:26
  I ever on account. And I'm going to say this to the
• 1:54:28
  people now, if I ever get myself into government, I will never
• 1:54:32
  ever take money from AIPAC. It will never fucking happen.
• 1:54:36
  They can suck my Dick. I'm serious because I'm never
• 1:54:40
  going to support a country that doesn't support me And, and, and
• 1:54:43
  I don't believe that they support us.
• 1:54:44
  I really don't. We spend way too much money for
• 1:54:47
  them. We spend way too much of our, of
• 1:54:49
  our, of our time and our military on them too.
• 1:54:51
  I'm, I'm not doing it anymore. I don't care who they they they
• 1:54:57
  are, because the government itself is using their military
• 1:55:01
  might against people that don't deserve that kind of pain.
• 1:55:05
  They deserve their lives, they deserve their futures.
• 1:55:08
  They deserve their homes. They deserve to have their
• 1:55:09
  country back. That's just me.
• 1:55:11
  That's just me. But I don't support Israel
• 1:55:13
  whatsoever in this. History of the Middle East with
• 1:55:18
  Israel is pretty. Do you watch Ian Carroll?
• 1:55:21
  Not really, no. I haven't.
• 1:55:22
  I haven't seen Ian Carroll and. I'm going to send you an Ian
• 1:55:25
  Carroll video. It's it's again, it's like a non
• 1:55:28
  biased when it comes to Republican Democrats.
• 1:55:30
  I've seen her stop the. Terror in the middle?
• 1:55:32
  East she did a really good piece on.
• 1:55:34
  It Oh, he's a guy. Oh.
• 1:55:35
  Sorry. Oh, I'm thinking somebody else.
• 1:55:36
  I'm thinking about somebody else.
• 1:55:37
  Let me because it was someone from the National Geographic
• 1:55:40
  that did this really good piece on on truth.
• 1:55:44
  No, I'll text you. It's called terror in the Middle
• 1:55:46
  East. Create.
• 1:55:47
  It's called creating Israel terror in the Middle East.
• 1:55:49
  It's a one hour and 20 minute thing, a little bit long, but
• 1:55:54
  it's the production value is unreal.
• 1:55:56
  I mean, you're you're glued to it the entire time.
• 1:55:58
  It's very non biased when it comes to Republicans and
• 1:56:01
  Democrats. It dives into how Israel was
• 1:56:04
  created, how it was supported and how it lasted to this point.
• 1:56:08
  And like it talks about the terror angle, the mafia angle,
• 1:56:11
  it it he does such excuse me, such a good job about it.
• 1:56:16
  I'll send you it. You'll you'll enjoy it.
• 1:56:18
  It's a really good one. But yeah, I think the I think
• 1:56:22
  beyond like here's where I'm going to say something.
• 1:56:25
  I don't know if you're going to agree with me or not.
• 1:56:27
  If you want to debate it, we can.
• 1:56:28
  If not, we don't have to because I know it's an edgier thing.
• 1:56:33
  As much as I think the Israel lobby is a huge problem, and
• 1:56:35
  they are, I think another big problem is something I like to
• 1:56:39
  call and a lot of people on the alt right call organized
• 1:56:42
  jewelry, which is it's not that Jewish people are a problem.
• 1:56:46
  It's that when dual citizens in the government who are citizens
• 1:56:52
  of Israel organized to essentially work against
• 1:56:54
  America, to put pro Israel amendments over pro America
• 1:56:58
  amendments, it's a very negative thing in the nation.
• 1:57:02
  And it almost pushes, I mean, I have the beliefs, but it almost
• 1:57:06
  pushes normal American, like people who don't even have his
• 1:57:09
  extreme beliefs as me to be like no dual citizenship in
• 1:57:12
  government. And I'm curious where you stand
• 1:57:14
  on stuff like that? I, I will never support a
• 1:57:18
  country that tries to take over the United States through
• 1:57:25
  they're like constitutional means or whatever the fuck.
• 1:57:28
  Like I, I will never support it. I will never support a country
• 1:57:30
  that that wants to put their money and their livelihood over
• 1:57:34
  ours in, in that, in that kind of format.
• 1:57:37
  I don't believe it. Our country's constitution is
• 1:57:40
  strong and just for specific reasons.
• 1:57:43
  And for a group, like any group, any group whatsoever, to try and
• 1:57:48
  use that against the United States I think is abhorrent say
• 1:57:53
  the least. Now, when it comes to like,
• 1:57:56
  specifically like Jews, I don't really have a understanding of
• 1:58:02
  that. I don't think it's all Jews,
• 1:58:03
  right? I don't want to like conflate it
• 1:58:04
  at like my best friend's Jewish. I have a ton of Jewish people in
• 1:58:07
  my family on my extended. Family you're talking more of
• 1:58:09
  like. I don't think like, I think it's
• 1:58:11
  when they organize like no, it's.
• 1:58:13
  Or like Apex, it's. More like this.
• 1:58:14
  It's like, think about it like this, like the mafia, the way
• 1:58:18
  they worked is they worked really tribally, like the
• 1:58:21
  Italians would help Italians out.
• 1:58:22
  And it became a big problem because they were essentially
• 1:58:26
  working against America to create their own little kind of
• 1:58:29
  economy that boosted what they were trying to do.
• 1:58:32
  And it's kind of what a little bit not all Jewish Americans,
• 1:58:36
  but what some Jewish Americans do is they have this like Jewish
• 1:58:39
  people, not all again, but some like a Jewish, the Jewish person
• 1:58:44
  in my instance, I'm talking about like they'll only go to a
• 1:58:46
  Jewish banker and they'll only go to a Jewish this and a Jewish
• 1:58:49
  that. And they'll like if you're only
• 1:58:52
  supporting things in that way, like if white people helped
• 1:58:55
  white people out or black people help black people out or any
• 1:58:59
  race or anyone, if any group helped any group out in the way
• 1:59:02
  that Jews helped Jews out in America, when it comes to their,
• 1:59:07
  they're over represented in government and media and things
• 1:59:11
  like that relative to their population size.
• 1:59:14
  I think it would be shut down. Like I think specifically for
• 1:59:17
  white, like if white people were helping white people out in
• 1:59:19
  2025, the same way that like they're doing it in America with
• 1:59:23
  the way I described with organized jewelry, I think it
• 1:59:25
  would get shut down pretty quick by the government and be called
• 1:59:28
  like a racist faction of the country.
• 1:59:31
  And it's like, it's crazy to me that like, it's not viewed as
• 1:59:33
  the same, that it's like these people, they're not even like
• 1:59:36
  affiliating with America. They're just creating their own
• 1:59:38
  little Jewish society. I see what you're saying.
• 1:59:40
  Their own little Israeli society within America and they're
• 1:59:43
  expecting us all to just accept. Like a, like a, like a.
• 1:59:45
  It's not really how America. Like a Chinatown, but instead of
• 1:59:48
  making it like, just like a city in New York, they're trying to
• 1:59:51
  take over. It's a network of people.
• 1:59:52
  Right. OK, I see.
• 1:59:53
  What you're saying instead of it being a town, like I'm not
• 1:59:56
  thinking of a specific geological location.
• 1:59:59
  I'm think although there are places like that specifically in
• 2:00:02
  New York, but I'm mainly saying like a network of people who
• 2:00:05
  work together and. And they act like they don't,
• 2:00:08
  but they work together closely. Like, like, for example, when
• 2:00:11
  you take like over over representation of like groups
• 2:00:14
  within certain positions, like Hollywood or banking, things
• 2:00:19
  like that. It's like it, you got to ask the
• 2:00:22
  like a question that I ask a lot is like, how are they 2% of the
• 2:00:25
  population? But they're, you know, I don't
• 2:00:28
  know the exact percentage. But they're like, they're like.
• 2:00:30
  Extremely high percentage of media of people in government,
• 2:00:35
  of people in bank, like the most important institutions in
• 2:00:38
  academia. Like how is there influence?
• 2:00:40
  And it's like. So high out there.
• 2:00:42
  Like what? Like what?
• 2:00:43
  And a lot of it is because like they'll hire each other, they'll
• 2:00:46
  give each other, you know, like in a lot of instances.
• 2:00:50
  And it's when you're organizing like that to like, like if I
• 2:00:54
  like for the hiring example, if I, you know, I run AI, run a few
• 2:00:58
  different companies, if I was to like look at applications and
• 2:01:01
  see your name and I saw like your last name was, I don't know
• 2:01:05
  what's a really Jewish name? Something Stein something, Yeah,
• 2:01:09
  you get what I'm saying. But like if I saw like, and I
• 2:01:11
  just immediately was like, no, I'm not going to hire this
• 2:01:13
  person without even looking at anything else versus like vice
• 2:01:17
  versa. If they look at that and they
• 2:01:18
  see that and they give that person a boost in the hiring
• 2:01:21
  ratings, like that's kind of where the problem.
• 2:01:24
  That's part of, you know, that's part of the problem to me.
• 2:01:26
  OK, I see. I just think it's the way they
• 2:01:29
  organize against the rest. And again, it's not all Jews.
• 2:01:32
  People love to conflate it as like when you say things like
• 2:01:34
  that because there are other like Muslims do it, Christians
• 2:01:37
  do it, white people do it, Italians do it, Mexicans, like
• 2:01:40
  everyone does it. It's just at different levels
• 2:01:42
  and different periods in history.
• 2:01:44
  But right now in America, where it seems to be impacting the
• 2:01:47
  country the most, is like the Israel side of it.
• 2:01:50
  So then would you, Yeah. So would you then agree that for
• 2:01:58
  that kind of situation that DEI and affirmative action could
• 2:02:03
  technically be something that that circumvents that?
• 2:02:07
  Would you, would you agree with that Maybe where it's like,
• 2:02:10
  where it's like. I still think that merit is
• 2:02:12
  important. Like if it like, I mean, for
• 2:02:14
  example, Jewish people, one of the reasons they're successful
• 2:02:17
  and a lot of people write this off like it's not just the
• 2:02:20
  organized jewelry that makes them successful.
• 2:02:22
  It's also the fact that like Ashkenazi Jews are the highest
• 2:02:25
  IQ on average in the world. You know, it goes Ashkenazi
• 2:02:28
  Jews, then I think it's Chinese, and then I think it's like
• 2:02:31
  certain parts of Europe shortly after that.
• 2:02:34
  And it's like you got to factor that in as well.
• 2:02:36
  They're very, very smart people. You know, like again, it's not
• 2:02:39
  all of them, but a lot of them are very smart people.
• 2:02:42
  So I do think that part of it makes sense.
• 2:02:44
  I don't think we should be. Again, I think there should be
• 2:02:47
  regulations around certain things, but I don't think we
• 2:02:50
  should be limiting things where it can end up impacting merit.
• 2:02:53
  I think the idea of those things are better than how they're
• 2:02:56
  practiced. OK.
• 2:02:58
  Like, I think when you practice those things, you end up with
• 2:03:01
  the situations that we ended up dealing with where it's like you
• 2:03:04
  have 95% of the people being hired or not white males.
• 2:03:07
  Yeah. But I feel like it's like, I'm
• 2:03:08
  not saying that 95% has to be white males, but it's like if
• 2:03:11
  they're the ones who are fit for the job, at least more of them
• 2:03:13
  should have. Been yeah, but I feel like if
• 2:03:14
  you if you if you if the practice doesn't work right, if
• 2:03:17
  you practice a football team and the and and the O line is just
• 2:03:21
  not O lining whatsoever. You start to run different run
• 2:03:25
  different plays. You start moving people around
• 2:03:27
  in, in, in those positions you were you remove, you move the
• 2:03:30
  tight end to wide receiver. You you take the defensive
• 2:03:35
  tackle and put them into the into center instead.
• 2:03:37
  You start to work on your team to see what fits your team the
• 2:03:40
  best. That's why, as a great football
• 2:03:43
  example, when Dan Campbell came in for the Lions, they were 3
• 2:03:47
  and 13, then they were nine and eight, then they were 15 and two
• 2:03:50
  and now they're three and one at this at this point, they're
• 2:03:52
  finding the way Campbell's a beast.
• 2:03:55
  But the the point is, is that like they're finding the way to
• 2:03:59
  perfect the system that they have in that, in that in that
• 2:04:03
  group. So, so I guess in layman's
• 2:04:06
  terms, what I'm just trying to say is even though it's in
• 2:04:08
  practice, you should still try to find a way to perfect that
• 2:04:11
  practice. Even if affirmative action isn't
• 2:04:14
  working correctly or DEIA is not working correctly in the moment,
• 2:04:17
  it doesn't mean that it won't become corrected or better or
• 2:04:21
  even more, what's the word more efficient in the future if it
• 2:04:27
  takes like another year or two years or even 3 years.
• 2:04:30
  It's just I don't think cutting things cold Turkey when it's
• 2:04:33
  been applied and been and been implemented like should be the
• 2:04:38
  the the the the call. So I.
• 2:04:43
  See your perspective. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
• 2:04:44
  Is that like we shouldn't. It's the same thing with the
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  EPA. You should never, ever just cut
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  something cold Turkey. You have to let it slowly pull
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  back. So like when I hear when they
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  talk about waste, fraud and abuse, I understand.
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  I totally get it, but you got to you.
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  You can't just cut your arm off and say I'm better now.
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  You know, if you get like an infection on your arm, you need
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  to fix it first. And if it continues to fester,
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  then you're going to have to do something like that.
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  But you got to test every method first.
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  That's but. I I kind of agree.
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  I kind of disagree. I don't think they have to like
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  test every method. That's where I would probably
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  disagree. Where I do agree though, is
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  like. Your arm analogy is great in the
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  sense of like, I do agree there needs to be a process to things.
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  It's not like you could just chop something without any
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  process to it. You do need some form of a
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  weaning process in some ways at least to make things go
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  smoother, not only for the economy but for the individual
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  people as well. But I do think at a point there
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  does need to be certain corrections specifically around
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  those things. And I do I, I, I think when it
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  comes back to like the Israel thing I was even saying before,
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  it's like, I think if you just eliminated the dual citizenship
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  loophole, like if you took dual citizenship out of America and
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  just said, pick one. If doesn't matter if it's like
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  Israel or America or Mexico or America or wherever your dual
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  citizens with if you said to every dual citizen in the
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  country, pick 1 today and then go reside there and that's your
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  country. I think it would solve a lot of
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  the problems because a lot of the organized jury that I'm
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  talking about it, it's it's there because they want to
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  support Israel and they need money to support Israel and they
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  need influence in our government to support Israel.
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  And what's the way to get that? Get as many people who support
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  Israel in high up position? Because it's not really the
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  politicians who run things. It's the people who pay the
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  politicians. So if you can get enough Jewish
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  lawyers who make a ton of money, enough Jewish doctors who make a
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  ton of money. And again, you got to go through
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  law school, you got to go through medical school.
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  I'm not saying these people didn't earn these things.
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  I'm just saying a lot of them were sometimes promoted too
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  quickly or they were given opportunities that like, like,
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  my last name is Pascalides. I'm not getting the same
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  opportunities as someone with the last name Steinberg.
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  Yeah, You know, like it's at least from like, you know, if
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  I'm going into like, the banking field or if I'm going into the
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  medical or legal fields, I'm not going to get the same.
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  And that's where it becomes a problem to me.
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  It's like if I was helping other Italians out, if I was saying
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  like, I'm only going to promote the Italians, but I wasn't
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  saying that. I was just doing it eventually,
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  like people would catch up. And that's kind of like, I think
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  where we're at, where it's like we're at a pivotal point of like
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  social media exists. You know, free speech is now
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  like full blown on X. You know, you can literally
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  tweet out whatever you want short if I'm going to shoot this
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  person. And even sometimes you can get
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  away with that. Some people do.
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  But, yeah, it's like Israel's having a tough time kind of
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  hiding it now. Like, before, they were hiding
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  it that, like, this was happening in America and this
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  was happening around the world. But now they're having a really
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  tough time hiding the fact that, like, people are just being
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  promoted because of their last name or their heritage or their
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  ties to Israel or their family. If, you know, like, that's where
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  it gets to be like a really shady Gray area where it's like,
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  OK, like, I don't think any other group can get away with
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  this in the level you are. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I get that. But Speaking of residents, my
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  lady just getting back from the grocery store and is going to
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  need my help. Oh, you're good.
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  If you want to sign off your air, that's OK.
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  It's been a fun time. No, but I'm glad we got to talk.
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  It was very fun. This was a very good and any
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  other time you want to come on, I love having you on.
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  You're very fun to talk. Like we give each other a little
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  push back. We I feel like we agree on so
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  much though. It's always a fun conversation.
• 2:08:31
  Today's today's Tuesday, we're filming this.
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  I'm going to upload this tomorrow, Wednesday, just for my
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  show tomorrow. Yeah, 100%.
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  And honestly, like I know that we have disagreements, but to be
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  quite honest with you, even though we have those
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  disagreements, at the end of the day, as long as we try to figure
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  out like what we agree on, which I think we have agreed on many
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  things here today, I think that is a good, that's a good vantage
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  point to start. That's a good way that we can
• 2:08:57
  continue to build this bridge and create common ground.
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  I I love that we agree. With, like I said, I don't think
• 2:09:04
  it's left versus right and like I think it used to be that way,
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  but I really think it's just good versus evil.
• 2:09:08
  And I honestly think there's a a massive group of Gen.
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  Z millennials and Gen. Alpha people who agree with me
• 2:09:15
  that it's like the people on the left and the people on the right
• 2:09:18
  who see themselves in the good and not the evil can come
• 2:09:20
  together on a lot of these things.
• 2:09:21
  Like we said, we're not going to agree on everything, but we can
• 2:09:24
  at least. I mean, we've sat down for two
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  hours, 11 minutes and had the most civil discussion I've had
• 2:09:29
  in a week. So you get what I'm, you know
• 2:09:31
  what I mean? Like totally get what you mean.
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  I think it's a really positive thing, just like you're saying.
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  But I'm going to let you go. I don't want to hold your
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  girlfriend up with the groceries there.
• 2:09:38
  You got to be a good. Boy got to help her out when I.
• 2:09:40
  Want you to sleep in the dog house tonight?
• 2:09:42
  Exactly. But yeah, have a very fun night.
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  I love the new studio. I'm glad I got to talk to you.
• 2:09:46
  Any other time you want to hop on, send me a text anytime
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  later. I'm going to send you that.
• 2:09:51
  I'm sending those two documentaries.
• 2:09:52
  I was talking about the Tucker and the Ian Carroll thing.
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  I'll send those to you later. I'll let you sign off.
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  It was great talking to you, man.
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  Good talking to you. Thank you, ma'am.
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  Hell yeah.