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‘Tech Tuesday’ with Rich DeMuro | Man Buys Up Burned Lots from L.A Fires · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: Six forty bill handle Here. It is a takcold Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: October fourteen. Some of the big stories we're looking at
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  Speaker 2: the ceasefire in Gaza. Well, it's now being reported that
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  Speaker 2: Israeli soldiers have killed several palest Indians in northern Gaza
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  Speaker 2: today there are ten hours ahead of US, a day
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  Speaker 2: after the President talked about the end of the two
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  Speaker 2: year war. Also, it's being reported that six people were
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  Speaker 2: killed with Israeli drones and they were inspecting their homes
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  Speaker 2: in a neighborhood east of Gaza City. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's true or not, but if that is true,
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  Speaker 2: they've got.
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  Speaker 1: Some splaining to do. Lucy, to say the least.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Dubuski is ABC News reporter out of New York
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  Speaker 2: and a tech expert. Is time for a Tech Tuesday, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time to talk to us. Hey
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  Speaker 2: in Ai, of course, is the big story that we
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  Speaker 2: have been following now for probably a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: How it's going to change everything how we deal with
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  Speaker 2: the Internet and how we deal with research and computers.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also something called quantum computing, and that may
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  Speaker 2: have just as big an influence. So, Mike, if you
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  Speaker 2: would explain what quantum computing is, so.
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  Speaker 1: We have an idea of where we're going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, nothing like a little quantum physics to start
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  Speaker 3: your morning, guys. But to answer the question of what
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  Speaker 3: quantum computing is, we first have to understand what normal
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  Speaker 3: computing is, what traditional computers and how they work do.
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  Speaker 3: So you've all seen the matrix, presumably right where the
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  Speaker 3: green numbers come cascading down the screen at the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the movie, all the ones and zeros. That's binary code,
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  Speaker 3: or to put it in computer terms, that's a bit. Right,
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  Speaker 3: Each of those numbers is a bit, that one or
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  Speaker 3: a zero. And if you arrange enough bits in a
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  Speaker 3: line next to each other to make a very complicated
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  Speaker 3: process very simple, that is the building blocks of computer technology.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: If you arrange you know, five ones and six zeros
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  Speaker 3: next to each other, that means that the background on
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  Speaker 3: your phone is read, or if you have it in
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  Speaker 3: a different configuration, it might be blue. Again, an oversimplification
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  Speaker 3: of how computers work, but it all basically comes back
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  Speaker 3: to those ones and zeros, those bits quantum computing uses
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  Speaker 3: an entirely different set of building blocks. They use what
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  Speaker 3: are known as quantum bits or cubits as some of
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  Speaker 3: the companies call them. These are not ones or zeros.
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  Speaker 3: They're kind of both at the same time until you
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  Speaker 3: run a program, at which point they become one or
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  Speaker 3: the other.
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  Speaker 1: They become one or zero.
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  Speaker 3: They exist in this quantum state. And this all it's
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  Speaker 3: worth mentioning requires like one more quantum physics degree than
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  Speaker 3: I have in order to properly wrap your mind around
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  Speaker 3: and fully explain. But the takeaway what you really need
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  Speaker 3: to know about quantum computers is that they're able to
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  Speaker 3: solve problems that are way more complex than what our
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  Speaker 3: current computers can handle, and that opens up a lot
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  Speaker 3: of opportunities in plenty of different sectors, among them medicine,
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  Speaker 3: drug development, artificial intelligence, the existing technology sector, and the
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  Speaker 3: financial services industry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when you talk about wrapping your mind around quantum,
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  Speaker 2: the quantum theory, I think a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: Most of us understand the bits zero ones.
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  Speaker 2: Most of us have grown up with that as the
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  Speaker 2: basis for computing. Now, the thought of zero ones existing
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  Speaker 2: at the same time in the same place that one's
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  Speaker 2: a little tough.
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  Speaker 1: To wrap your mind around that I don't get.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of mind bending, right, is this idea
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  Speaker 3: that until you observe it, it is kind of both states, right,
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  Speaker 3: And this is what quantum physics is all about. Is
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  Speaker 3: when you get down to this infantessimally small sort of
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  Speaker 3: subatom level, things start to behave differently right, things like
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  Speaker 3: cause and effect is flipped, and things can exist in
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  Speaker 3: two different places at exactly the same time but take
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  Speaker 3: up exactly the same amount of space.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: It's stuff that like our brains don't normally go to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it requires some unlearning, but that's basically the type of
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  Speaker 3: thing that we're dealing with here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For example, it's raining outside at the same time it's sunny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you know up is up is the same
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  Speaker 1: time it's down.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So here's cat is a classic example here where
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  Speaker 3: you know, if there's a cat in the trunk of
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  Speaker 3: your car, it is both dead and alive until you
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  Speaker 3: open the trunk and discover what it is. That's basically
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  Speaker 3: what we're dealing with here, is it is both one
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  Speaker 3: end zero until you hit enter, until you hit execute
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  Speaker 3: on your computer and run a program it's just up
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  Speaker 3: until that moment, it is some probability, some you know,
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  Speaker 3: intermediary state between those two states of being.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'll think about that while my next commercial
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes Tech Tuesday with Mike Dubuski,
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  Speaker 2: who is the ABC News reporter, and he is either
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  Speaker 2: in New York or he's not. And he went to
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  Speaker 2: the IBM's Thomas Watson Research Center in New York and
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  Speaker 2: he either walked in the door or he didn't. At
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  Speaker 2: the same time as he explained quantum physics to us
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  Speaker 2: and did a pretty good job in the first segment,
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  Speaker 2: Now you went to a quantum research center that's run
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  Speaker 2: by IBM.
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  Speaker 1: What you see in how did it look?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we saw a quantum computer. I think this
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  Speaker 3: is really helpful in just demonstrating exactly what this technology is, like,
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  Speaker 3: what is it? What can I touch? What can I hold?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 3: These actually kind of harken back to sort of older
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  Speaker 3: cool computers. They take up full rooms. The unit that
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  Speaker 3: we were looking at was taller than I am by
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  Speaker 3: almost a factor of two. It had this sort of
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  Speaker 3: aluminum finish on it, and it was shaped like a
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  Speaker 3: giant X that had been placed into the ground. And
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  Speaker 3: interestingly enough, the actual computer part of it, the chips,
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  Speaker 3: what IBM calls their heron processors, are actually pretty small.
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  Speaker 3: They're like a tiny little box, you know, approximately the
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  Speaker 3: size of like a shoe box or a tissue box
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. That's where the actual computing gets done.
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  Speaker 3: So much of the rest of it, the stuff that
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  Speaker 3: takes up the entire room, is cooling. Keeping these chips
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  Speaker 3: cool because they generate so much heat because they work
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  Speaker 3: so hard, is really difficult, and IBM says that in
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  Speaker 3: order for this chip to function, they actually have to
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  Speaker 3: get the temperature inside this computer down to almost absolute
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  Speaker 3: zero zero kelvin, as it's known, and that's a really
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  Speaker 3: tough process. And the sort of cooling systems that are
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  Speaker 3: able to do that they call it the chandelier. It
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  Speaker 3: actually looks like a giant shandalier, but it's actually all
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  Speaker 3: these different brass and gold components that are able to
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  Speaker 3: slip cooling material and coolant near this computer to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that it operates at the proper temperature. In addition
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  Speaker 3: to that, quantum computers don't have like a user interface
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  Speaker 3: or an operating system. They don't run Windows, for example,
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  Speaker 3: so that means that we need traditional computers nearby in
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  Speaker 3: order to translate what it's giving us. Right, if we
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  Speaker 3: give a quantum computer a problem to solve, we can't
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  Speaker 3: really understand it in its normal state. We need another
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  Speaker 3: computer there to sort of understand what it's giving us
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  Speaker 3: and translated into something that we would understand. So that's
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  Speaker 3: what they're working on at this facility, the Thomas J.
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  Speaker 3: Watson Research Center in upstate New York. You might remember Watson,
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  Speaker 3: which won Jeopardy many years ago, Yes, the same Watson.
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  Speaker 3: It's an IBM computer. That is where they developed this
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  Speaker 3: particular artificial intelligence technology. Now it seems like they are
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  Speaker 3: moving into the quantum realm, and that's kind of what
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  Speaker 3: they're focused on right now at this research center. But
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  Speaker 3: it's this is kind of like somewhere between a factory
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  Speaker 3: and a lab, right, this is where they figure out
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  Speaker 3: how to build these things. These computers are already up
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  Speaker 3: and running in Europe and in Japan. In fact, this
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  Speaker 3: morning they just announced that they're launching a new quantum
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  Speaker 3: computer in Spain that is largely similar to the one
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  Speaker 3: that I got to look at.
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  Speaker 4: So now these are telling great are they selling these
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  Speaker 4: the idea is if you're a company, for example, if
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  Speaker 4: you're like a shipping company, right, and you have to
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  Speaker 4: deal with these really complex logistics of moving your product
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  Speaker 4: around the world, you.
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  Speaker 3: Can go to a quantum computing facility and have it
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  Speaker 3: answer some of your questions. So up until recently, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of the demonstrations of these things were really theoretical
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  Speaker 3: and kind of high minded. For example, last year, Google
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  Speaker 3: made a big announcement in the quantum computing world where
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  Speaker 3: they said that their quantum computer was able to solve
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  Speaker 3: a problem, a math problem that would have taken a
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  Speaker 3: traditional computer ten septillion years to solve. Right, That is
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  Speaker 3: sort of their demonstration of how this technology works. But
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  Speaker 3: like people aren't throwing those equations around on their day
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  Speaker 3: to day basis, right, That's not something that is really
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  Speaker 3: practically applicable to most people now, though IBM says they're
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  Speaker 3: starting to move into the real world in a more
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  Speaker 3: substantial way. Logistics is a big one obviously, dealing with
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  Speaker 3: really complex problems and a huge amount of variables in
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  Speaker 3: that industry. Another one is the financial services sector. Last month,
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  Speaker 3: HSBC announced that they used IBM's quantum computer, the same
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  Speaker 3: kind of one that runs in New York to help
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  Speaker 3: predict bond trading far more accurately and far more quickly
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  Speaker 3: than they had been able to before. This was a
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  Speaker 3: pretty limited test. It happened in Europe. But if IBM
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  Speaker 3: is to be believed pretty soon, that is going to
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  Speaker 3: be your money that is going to be traded back
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  Speaker 3: and forth using these quantum computers that run these specific
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  Speaker 3: algorithms that go alongside.
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  Speaker 1: It is sounding.
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  Speaker 2: I'm assuming that when you ask the question, you have
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  Speaker 2: to ask an.
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  Speaker 1: Old school or a.
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  Speaker 2: Computer that we know that then translates the question into
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  Speaker 2: the quantum computer.
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  Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Yeah? Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty interesting stuff, say the East Mike, then
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying thank you. I'm kicking you off
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  Speaker 1: the air.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Okay, you're done, goodbye. Do something with yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, make myself useful, take care.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you don't know the name Edwin Castro. A
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  Speaker 2: matter of fact, the only one who probably would know
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  Speaker 2: the name would be Amy.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know where had Castro is? One? Two billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars in power Ball? That's the guy. He won two
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: He took home after took the lump sum payment and
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  Speaker 2: after taxes, about seven hundred and fifty million dollars okay.
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  Speaker 2: And he bought the ticket at a local gas station
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. And he's buying lots in Altadina,
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  Speaker 2: lots of lots. He's one of the biggest buyers of
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  Speaker 2: lots in Altadina. Why Alta Dina? Now we know Altadena,
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  Speaker 2: of course is one of the burden areas. It had
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  Speaker 2: I think six thousand structures burned and number one was
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  Speaker 2: the Palisades.
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  Speaker 1: Number two was Altadena Palisades. There's plenty of money.
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  Speaker 2: Altadena We've talked about this before is a very interesting
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  Speaker 2: community in that a huge number of African Americans lived there.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason that happened is because there was redlining.
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  Speaker 2: African Americans were not allowed to buy in certain areas
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  Speaker 2: in most areas and virtually all areas of southern California,
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  Speaker 2: and so they congregated in Altadena where they were able
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  Speaker 2: to buy. And so there's some there's legacy property there.
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  Speaker 2: There's third generation property homes there, which is why there
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  Speaker 2: were so many homeowners, even those who didn't have money,
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  Speaker 2: because they were second and third generation owners. So why
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  Speaker 2: is Edwin Castro buying lots in Alta because he came
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  Speaker 2: from Alta Dina. He grew up in Alta Dina and
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  Speaker 2: clearly he is connected to Alta Dina. Matter of fact,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of lots he has bought he is thinking
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  Speaker 2: of putting another home on there.
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  Speaker 1: Now he has a bunch of homes.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's spent forty four million dollars for a
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  Speaker 2: home in Malibu.
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  Speaker 1: He's living pretty large.
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  Speaker 2: He's thirty three years old and has spent ten million
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  Speaker 2: dollars to buy.
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  Speaker 1: Up to fifteen lots.
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  Speaker 2: And he's one of the biggest wave of investors that
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  Speaker 2: snapping up these scorched properties, and often from displaced residents
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  Speaker 2: who have opted to cash out rather than build a property.
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  Speaker 2: And for those of you, and there aren't very many
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  Speaker 2: those of us. Because I built the Persian Palace, it
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  Speaker 2: is multi year.
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  Speaker 1: It's a multi year project.
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  Speaker 2: My place took two years, actually two years three months
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  Speaker 2: to build. And because La is a lot of permitting,
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  Speaker 2: and so Altadeen there's a lot of permitting.
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  Speaker 1: It is not easy.
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  Speaker 2: But are you prepared if you happen to have a
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  Speaker 2: piece of land, which now is what a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of these people own, because of course the structures are gone.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you have the money and you had insurance
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  Speaker 2: and it's not costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 2: out of pocket.
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  Speaker 1: So, all things being equal, if.
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  Speaker 2: You have the facilities and the mechanism and you have
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  Speaker 2: the path to build a home, are you going to
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  Speaker 2: spend two years building your house or are you going
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  Speaker 2: to move on? And that is the question. So you
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  Speaker 2: have developers coming in. There's a San Diego guy, there's
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  Speaker 2: an Arizona fund. There is a hospice executive who is
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  Speaker 2: La based who has also made purchases of the land.
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  Speaker 2: Now you saw that debris from the fire, an insane
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  Speaker 2: amount of debris that's all gone. The government has in
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  Speaker 2: fact remove the debris, and there was a whole issue there.
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  Speaker 2: But these purchases have raised all kinds of alarm in
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  Speaker 2: Alta Diena. Those that are still living there. There were
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  Speaker 2: about forty two thousand residents before the fires, now far
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  Speaker 2: far fewer, and the residents that are staying there are saying,
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  Speaker 2: these developers are going to build properties that are going
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  Speaker 2: to sell houses, and Altadena is going to lose the
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  Speaker 2: small town feel that was created by those craftsmen, bungalows,
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  Speaker 2: and Spanish revival homes that once dotted all the streets. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to happen. Yeah, developers are going to come in.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, don't think for a moment that
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  Speaker 2: they're going to build those homes, assuming that they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to sell those homes as quickly or as much
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  Speaker 2: money as homes that do not look like that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: can the city pass an ordinance saying that those burn areas,
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  Speaker 2: you must build homes that approximate those areas. Maybe, but
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  Speaker 2: imagine the lawsuits that will hit the purchase of Alta
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  Speaker 2: Dina lots by Edwin Castro, who came from Alta Dina
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  Speaker 2: and he won the two billion dollar powerball jackpot a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and he opted for the lump
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  Speaker 2: sum after taxes, it was in the seven hundred million range,
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  Speaker 2: so he can do whatever.
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  Speaker 1: The hell he wants.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's buying up to fifteen lots in Altadena and
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  Speaker 2: he is going to be building homes now. Hasn't decided
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  Speaker 2: what kind of homes, but a couple of things he
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  Speaker 2: has decided.
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  Speaker 1: He does not want to sell lots to developers.
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  Speaker 2: He plans on developing, but he plans on developing the
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  Speaker 2: way Alta Dina was. He he's not doing this as
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  Speaker 2: a charity. He says he's gonna make money on this.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to sell the homes at market value, but
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  Speaker 2: he wants to keep it limited to the number of
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  Speaker 2: people who lived and will live in Alta Dina And
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how do you do that?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can say no.
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  Speaker 2: But all I have to tell you is, or I
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  Speaker 2: have to tell him, is I want to buy the house,
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  Speaker 2: and I happen to live someplace else and I want
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  Speaker 2: to move. I'm buying it to move there. So who
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  Speaker 2: knows the way it's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to turn out. But as usual, there are.
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  Speaker 2: The detractors, and there are people that are trying to
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  Speaker 2: block the investors from buying and arguing, look, what's happening
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  Speaker 2: to Altadena. It's not going to have the same small
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  Speaker 2: town feel. It's going to be gentrified. We don't want
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  Speaker 2: to give up that small town field. Well feel, Well,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you your small town feel is now
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  Speaker 2: empty lots. How small town is that the homes are gone?
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  Speaker 2: How small town is that? Well, we used to have
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  Speaker 2: hardware stores. Well, there's a Walmart a mile and a half. Away.
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  Speaker 2: How small town is that? That's the problem, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're arguing, and what is the alternative?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, we've come up with some crackpot ideas they have.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have the city by the lots and have the
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  Speaker 2: city subsidize the building of these homes the way they
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  Speaker 2: used to look like and limited to folks that lived
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  Speaker 2: in Altadena.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, really, it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to happen now, will it be the craftsman
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  Speaker 2: bungalows and Spanish revival homes? Who knows a lot of locals,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, appreciate his goals. One of them, a
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  Speaker 2: contractor who grew up in Altadena, says I feel better
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  Speaker 2: about him than anybody else because he's from the area.
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  Speaker 2: There's one lady who says he's just another person trying
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  Speaker 2: to get some profit. Yeah, that's what builders and developers do.
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  Speaker 1: Does she want him to give away the land?
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's got plenty of money, he should give it away,
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  Speaker 2: she said from her office under a poster of Carl
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  Speaker 2: Marx So and he's thinking of even building a house
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  Speaker 2: for himself over two lots with secret corridors and underground
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  Speaker 2: tunnels and very Willy Wonka like. By the way he
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  Speaker 2: was born into in Alta. Dino was a boys He
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  Speaker 2: was a pokey man devote and he still still spends long,
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  Speaker 2: long nights with friends playing dungeons and dragons the way
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  Speaker 2: he has forever. Except the difference is they look at
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  Speaker 2: him a small town guy. He had. He had a
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  Speaker 2: business in Altadena. I think he was some kind of
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  Speaker 2: a contractor. He was, actually he was a private architecture consultant.
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  Speaker 2: When he hit the jackpot. He is no longer a
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  Speaker 2: private architecture consultant. He's just a very, very very wealthy guy,
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  Speaker 2: is what he is. All Right, We're done, guys. Coming up,
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  Speaker 2: rain and starts again tomorrow. It's Amy and Will Coleschreiber.
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  Speaker 2: are an integral but mediocre part of the show as
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  Speaker 2: party Big Big, Yeah, I'm not saying it's not big.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying important, important, Essential John no I guess
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