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Jags Drive Time: Monday, September 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't jock Jack Warris? Did you go?
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Speaker 1: Jack Warris? Right? Telling right and sex stepstick John os
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Speaker 1: As Actually, Jack Warris, drive time starts right down. Hey,
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Speaker 1: We're not worried about down the road. We're not worried
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Speaker 1: about statement games. We're not that team. We're a team
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Speaker 1: that just needs to focus like we did this week
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Speaker 1: last week. All right, come about ourselves and every week
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Speaker 1: we go out there, we play Jacksonville Jaguar football. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and if about us at the team, all right, don't
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Speaker 1: fall into the trap we see them down the road.
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Speaker 1: They burned it. We burned it. That's fine, Okay, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't about revenge. This is a different team. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: tell you why it's different. All right. The guys are
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Speaker 1: one year older, the guys that have been here one
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Speaker 1: year into. We've got some new guys that have bought
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Speaker 1: into what we do. We care about each other. The
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Speaker 1: team is the most important thing. And as long as
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Speaker 1: we keep doing it for each other in this room, okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll keep winning football game. We got a lot ahead
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Speaker 1: of us. It's the same way. Whether we want to
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Speaker 1: lost today, guys, all right, it was the second game
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Speaker 1: of the season, a f the opponent, enjoy it. It's
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Speaker 1: a great win. Come back to our corrections, and then
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Speaker 1: we got the division coming up. Okay, good job. Let's
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Speaker 1: go work on through, work on through, Let's go to work.
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Speaker 1: It's over. I wanted more. I wanted more of that.
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Speaker 1: Doug was sensational on the sideline yesterday, just watching him
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Speaker 1: the way that he managed his football team and in
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Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards, setting the expectation for how he
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Speaker 1: wanted his team to approach it um just through and
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Speaker 1: through football coach, I mean, at all times, managing the
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Speaker 1: situations at a pleasure to watch his football team yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Jack's Drive time on a Monday morning,
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Jet Home Loans, Brian Sexton, Ashlyn
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Speaker 1: Sullivan and the senior writer John Owes. You're here with
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Speaker 1: you to recap the game and offer you some perspective.
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Speaker 1: What say you guys this morning? I'm pipe, I'm pumped.
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Speaker 1: Did you say we're pipe? Pipe? Everybody's pipe aren't? This
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Speaker 1: is the morning to be pipe pie pipe. I think
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Speaker 1: we can just I think yes, you did. I think
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Speaker 1: We've got a long way we can go with that
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Speaker 1: one let's try to get what say you this morning?
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Speaker 1: As I am happy you know you were born pipe,
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Speaker 1: you know, watching that piece that the first time I've
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Speaker 1: seen it, and then thinking last night, I trying to
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Speaker 1: put this game in perspective. Um, I don't know what's
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Speaker 1: going to happen the rest of the season. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if this team has had it for the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: I think I think it has a chance. I think
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Speaker 1: it's really good. But listening to Maron and then watching
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Speaker 1: the players come in and you know, do the go
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Speaker 1: um and then listen to him in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: they hear his mess. This is this team's time. This
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Speaker 1: is a team that's ready to win now. We talked
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Speaker 1: throughout the offseason about how in O T O Tasman
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Speaker 1: training camp it felt like a team ready to flex
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Speaker 1: and show how strong it was. Um, everything's coming together.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about how much talent there is on the roster,
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Speaker 1: about how some of this talent won't be here next year.
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Speaker 1: They're buying in. There's a time when teams eventually shut
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Speaker 1: out a coach way way way down the road. They're
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Speaker 1: hearing this guy and they're into what he's saying. They
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Speaker 1: know this is their chance in their time, and boy,
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Speaker 1: is it. You don't get a chance in our business, Brian,
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Speaker 1: to be around this many teams who you feel like
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Speaker 1: are all on the same page, going in the same direction,
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Speaker 1: it's special. Doug was clearly effective with the message, which was, hey,
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Speaker 1: it's a big win. It's about the Jaguars, it's not
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Speaker 1: about the Patriots or revenge or any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: And all the players we're afterwards of that same mindset.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think it was just them taking it
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Speaker 1: in and regurgitating what he had said. Malie Jackson Turney
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Speaker 1: was like, look, we expected to win. What did you
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Speaker 1: guys think about it? They were not all no, no,
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Speaker 1: you are never going to hear the end of that.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is that this team understood the circumstances
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Speaker 1: before the game all week long, and they understood the
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Speaker 1: significance afterwards that this is about week two week. They
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Speaker 1: know the division is next week. A j boy A,
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Speaker 1: you know, was like a professor afterwards talking about yet
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Speaker 1: you take this now, you mix it with this, and
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Speaker 1: it's the division and it's two for one, and you
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Speaker 1: gotta go and be focused on the Titans next week.
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Speaker 1: And I heard one guy say it. I heard ten
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Speaker 1: guys say it. They got us twice last year. They
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Speaker 1: have a little revenge to her going here right from
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Speaker 1: our perspective, from some of those two uh Patriots, Titans
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Speaker 1: who got him twice last year, Jets who beat him
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Speaker 1: in overtime last year, it forget revenge. It's a learning opportunity.
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Speaker 1: It's lessons learned. Oh, this is how we beat Tom Brady.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, remember last year there was so
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Speaker 1: many similarities to the game from from the a f
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Speaker 1: C title that went the Jaguars way this time. I'll
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Speaker 1: give you two examples. End of the first half. End
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Speaker 1: of the first half in New England. Bortles hits Marcedes
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Speaker 1: Lewis for a first down. They're about to go in
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Speaker 1: twe to three right instead delay of game, they punt,
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady goes down, makes it fourteen ten. You could
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Speaker 1: kind of feel it if they had some momentum here
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Speaker 1: they faced third down, he hits Austin Seferian Jenkins first down.
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Speaker 1: They go on to go up three. At that point,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the difference. Then fourth quarter d d
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Speaker 1: Westbrook he falls down. Last year, he's got the speed,
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Speaker 1: as we saw yesterday to score and he's on the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars sideline on that cold turf in New England and
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Speaker 1: he loses his footing as he tries to make a
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Speaker 1: move to the inside of the cornerback. Not this time,
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Speaker 1: he goes outside, goes down the sideline. Game essentially over
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Speaker 1: at that point. There were moments where it was such boom,
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Speaker 1: hit you in the head. That didn't happen in New England.
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Speaker 1: And as much as you want to talk, yes, they
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Speaker 1: were aggressive throughout and it's been a big storyline and
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Speaker 1: I get that. At the same time, some of what
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Speaker 1: happened in the third quarter showed you a little bit
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Speaker 1: of why they weren't aggressive last year. The turnovers that
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Speaker 1: happened in the third quarter difference this year as much
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Speaker 1: as anything. Point blank, Patriots get a touchdown another point blank.
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Speaker 1: You think that Dante Fowler big play last year when
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Speaker 1: it was sort of when the water started flowing against them,
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Speaker 1: that big play didn't happen. I know, Dante Fowler's fumble
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Speaker 1: didn't result into Jaguars touchdown, It prevented a field goal,
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Speaker 1: shifted field position back, huge play for Dante. The momentum,
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Speaker 1: you could just there were a ton on the east sideline.
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Speaker 1: There were a ton of Patriots fans and it was
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Speaker 1: an audible sigh, you know, the kind that we hear
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Speaker 1: sometimes coming from the control room. Uh, they knew, they knew.
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Speaker 1: And you saw that when d J Chark had the fumble.
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Speaker 1: I saw John that you tweeted, you can't turn over
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Speaker 1: on this team because they're going to capitalize on it.
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Speaker 1: And you thought when that started going, you thought, oh,
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Speaker 1: but Dante Fowler's play automatically silent stuff. And what a
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Speaker 1: play by Dante Fowler in terms of unbelievable EFFORCTA. The
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Speaker 1: most impressive part of it was how Adrian Waddle, a
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Speaker 1: big offensive tackle was pulling him back by the shoulder
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Speaker 1: pads and he fought through with one arm to get
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Speaker 1: the ball. And if you go back and we'll show
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Speaker 1: the highlight, he had to fight for that ball and
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Speaker 1: he got it. Hey, how about a look at the
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Speaker 1: Twitter pool before we get into big things here on
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Speaker 1: a Monday morning Jags Drive time, who's the Exfinity player
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Speaker 1: of the game. You know, there's some great candidates right there.
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Speaker 1: Obviously you can offer someone else who might be to
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Speaker 1: Shaun Gibson. Right if we had unlimited opportunities for people
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Speaker 1: to vote. We could probably put six seven names up there,
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Speaker 1: but that's the three that we've got. You can add
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Speaker 1: yours in the comment for the expenity Player of the
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Speaker 1: game and ms Peppy. Let's go write to big things.
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Speaker 1: Not even a word, No, it's pipe to pipe, pipe
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Speaker 1: to you pal, all right? Big thing one is the
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Speaker 1: boat versus the goat and the boat want We heard
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Speaker 1: people say that that could have been Blake Bortle's best
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Speaker 1: game of his career. Blake Bortles seventy seven yards, four
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Speaker 1: touchdowns of Brady two four yards, two Dutch downs. So
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Speaker 1: I don't get the whole boat thing. I mean I
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Speaker 1: get best of all times. So we're saying that was
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Speaker 1: his best game of all time versus the greatest quarterback
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Speaker 1: of all time. He's just the boat. It's just a
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Speaker 1: known thing. It's a thing on Twitter. Twitter is this thing, Brian.
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Speaker 1: If you go online, I've got it up right here.
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Speaker 1: You'd be surprising I actually follow you, but I don't
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Speaker 1: have to pay more attention, right, But yeah, the boat
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Speaker 1: is a thing, and and it's uh yeah, you can
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Speaker 1: thank Darneld Brady for that one social media manager. He
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Speaker 1: uses it quite often, but you know, yes, it was
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Speaker 1: Blake's best game. But I think what's significant is I
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Speaker 1: don't know that it was far. I mean, it's being
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Speaker 1: touted as that because it was against Brady, and I
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Speaker 1: understand the circumstance. But the reality is for the last
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Speaker 1: eleven games, the last season, uh and now one of this,
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Speaker 1: he has turned in a lot of these and you know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's just it, it's tiresome at this point, the
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Speaker 1: narrative around this kid that he can't get it done.
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Speaker 1: He was big time yesterday. And you know, as I know,
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Speaker 1: he's going to have more games where he's not perfect
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Speaker 1: against we we have to keeping perspective. They are gonna
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Speaker 1: be dips. But this was a big time performance, not
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Speaker 1: just the passes he through, but the pocket presence, the
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Speaker 1: scrambling at the right moment. How many times to read
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Speaker 1: or hear from New England. We have to be aware
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Speaker 1: of his mobility, and he got outside the pocket and
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Speaker 1: ran for three first downs yesterday and orchestrated ten of fourteen.
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Speaker 1: I believe he was seven of seven on his first
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Speaker 1: seven third down passes. I don't know how that stat
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Speaker 1: maintained going forward, but it was as much as the
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Speaker 1: stats were impressive. He combined the stats with that element
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Speaker 1: that whenever you talk to people this offseason and they
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Speaker 1: would ask you why in the world with the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: re signed Blake, why would they trust in him? And
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Speaker 1: you would try to explain to him the intangibles that
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Speaker 1: the players in this locker room feel. I ran into
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Speaker 1: Jeff Darlington uh the night before the game from ESPN,
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about UH quarterbacks who were more
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Speaker 1: liked in their locker room and more loved in their
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Speaker 1: locker room than this guy. Around the NFL. Jeff covers
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Speaker 1: the league, he said might be one or two, but
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Speaker 1: the intangible but this guy brings in terms of being
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Speaker 1: a locker room leader, in terms of being that guy,
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Speaker 1: in terms of doing the things on third down, you
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Speaker 1: saw guts, all that stuff, wanted to play for him.
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Speaker 1: It's off the charts, and he showed it again. Well.
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Speaker 1: I wrote in quick thoughts that you know, he may
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Speaker 1: never get the love nationally, although this morning he's getting so.
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Speaker 1: But he may never get it nationally, but he darnwell
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Speaker 1: should get it here with these fans because this is
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Speaker 1: what they've seen from him. Go back to last year
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Speaker 1: with that great three game performance against the Colts, the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: and the Texans. Right he's thrown eleven touchdowns and only
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Speaker 1: one interception yesterday which wasn't even his fault, okay, and
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Speaker 1: has a astronomical quarterback efficiency rating at home. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: fans should fully understand what they've got in this kid now.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, it's not a league where patients
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Speaker 1: is necessarily a virtue. However, the patient shown to him
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Speaker 1: right with Tom and Doug and Dave last year is
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Speaker 1: absolutely paying. It's an interesting concept that you wonder if
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Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks who are a little marginal, which
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Speaker 1: he was for a while, if one or two teams
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Speaker 1: might look at this and say, we need to be
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Speaker 1: a touch more patient with our guy. It's really tough.
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Speaker 1: It's tough to get through what Blake went through his
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Speaker 1: first well was it three years and even half of
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Speaker 1: the second to get to this point. But again, for
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Speaker 1: all his flaws, and there are things that he doesn't
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Speaker 1: do well, but the things that he does do well
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Speaker 1: fits so well with this team right now. It's it's
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Speaker 1: a fascinating story to watch. Worth pointing out Albert Brier,
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Speaker 1: who writes The Money Morning Quarterback column now for Sports
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Speaker 1: Illustrated website. Had a conversation with Nathaniel Hackett. I was
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Speaker 1: reading it before we went on the air, and Nathaniel
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Speaker 1: said that the little rollout to the little dump off
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Speaker 1: to Corey Grant early in the game, it may have
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Speaker 1: been on the first drive was his fifth option. And
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Speaker 1: the difference between Blake Bortles we talked about, they couldn't
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Speaker 1: get to that this time his team having patients with Blake.
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Speaker 1: Blake now is exhibiting the same patience within the offense,
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Speaker 1: and Corey Grant was his fifth option and he got
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Speaker 1: to it. So you were seeing the maturation and we
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Speaker 1: have seen it since last season of Blake Bordles. Jaguars
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Speaker 1: fans should just get on board. Credit to the guy
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Speaker 1: you mentioned to he he schemed, meaning Nate Hackett a
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Speaker 1: hell of a Yang game. I don't think Blake's ever
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Speaker 1: gonna lose that proving people wrong factor. If I don't know,
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Speaker 1: if you guys saw right before the game, CBS Sports
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Speaker 1: Network had their pregame shown, they said, if they're putting
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Speaker 1: the game in Bartle's hands that I don't know if
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars even bothers showing up because they're not going
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Speaker 1: to win. Clown chef who said that. I'd have to look,
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Speaker 1: but it was on the CBS Sports Network show You've
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Speaker 1: all retweeted after the game and said it takes expose.
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Speaker 1: It was kind of a silly statement in the start,
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Speaker 1: it was, but wow, prove them wrong, man, prove them wrong.
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Speaker 1: They did yesterday. They did all right. Big thing too
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Speaker 1: is big moments. So in our second block we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go over some though. It's huge moments, but there's so
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Speaker 1: many that we can't even tell them. I can't. So
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Speaker 1: let me just give a couple of moments in the game.
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Speaker 1: How about the paths first and ten at the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: eleven yard line after the penalty on Telvin Smith and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars hold him to a field goal. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: first half stuff. And they hold him to a field goal.
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Speaker 1: So instead of fourteen seven, it's fourteen three. I mentioned
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Speaker 1: earlier the Jaguars last year settled for a fourteen ten
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Speaker 1: lead because they couldn't convert. This time, they drive lead again.
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Speaker 1: You could feel that at the end of the first half.
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Speaker 1: How about borders intercepted in three days later, Dante obviously
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Speaker 1: comes up with that huge play Um maybe as big
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Speaker 1: a play as any in the game. Third down in five,
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Speaker 1: little dump out to James White, Kelvin Smith chases him down,
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Speaker 1: they measure, they throw the challenge flag, and then Bill
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Speaker 1: Belichick opts to punt um. The next play was the
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Speaker 1: sixty one yard touchdown. They stayed aggressive to add Westbrook.
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Speaker 1: How about third and eight Borders running for ten on
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Speaker 1: the final drive and then third and three Corey Grant
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Speaker 1: taking little dump out and going for five. There were
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Speaker 1: just there were just so many moments in the game
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Speaker 1: where it felt like the Jaguars had to make the play,
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Speaker 1: and yesterday they did. Yeah, and you mentioned the Telvin
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Speaker 1: Smith play, Uh, with the challenge. It's one of those
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Speaker 1: hidden plays that sometimes doesn't make a lot of storylines
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Speaker 1: because it's not a highlight. Um. I said before the game,
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Speaker 1: I thought the speed of this defense Miles Jack and
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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith would be a huge factor against the Patriots.
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Speaker 1: I've covered a lot of Patriots games over the years,
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Speaker 1: covered a lot of the Manning Brady rivalry, so I've
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Speaker 1: seen how the Patriots operate. A lot of times they
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Speaker 1: win games because of hidden things, because a pass from
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Speaker 1: Brady gets them into second and two instead of second
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Speaker 1: and six. Um. There were a lot of plays where
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Speaker 1: I thought the Jaguars defense, I don't say surprise New England,
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Speaker 1: but the speed and the level of the Jaguars defense
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Speaker 1: was playing was putting New England in tougher situations than
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Speaker 1: they were used to normally. When they would call a
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Speaker 1: certain play, they and it was successful, they would face
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Speaker 1: second and three against the Jaguars, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: they're facing second and seven. Because this defense is really good,
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Speaker 1: really fast. It really stopped the run. Well. As much
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Speaker 1: as we're talking about the offense today because Blake bol
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Speaker 1: was a huge storyline, this game doesn't happen without a
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Speaker 1: sustained excellence that we've come to expect from the defense.
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Speaker 1: One in particular was when Brady threw it out of
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Speaker 1: the back field to James White and tell them chased
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Speaker 1: him down. I mean it was. And the first thing
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Speaker 1: eleven you're talking about was a very similar thing. As
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Speaker 1: you watched the Patriots over the years, and again I
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Speaker 1: probably covered fifteen sixteen games of this regime, they score
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Speaker 1: in that situation, what they do and what the eight
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Speaker 1: teams with great quarterbacks do. They're down fourteen nothing and
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Speaker 1: they get an opportunity. Well, all of a sudden, they're
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Speaker 1: fourteen seven and walk into the locker room thinking, Okay,
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Speaker 1: we got this. Now we're back in it. Now we're
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Speaker 1: rolling to hold them to three there rather than seven.
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Speaker 1: It is jolting to the Patriots because they don't expect
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Speaker 1: to be stopped there. Well, and you could see on
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Speaker 1: the sideline after after the fumble, charts fumble and the
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Speaker 1: touchdown to Chris Hogan, you could see, I mean the
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Speaker 1: lift that it gave there. Down fourteen points in the
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Speaker 1: third quarter. They've done that a million times. They're winning
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Speaker 1: the game at that point, and they believed it. They
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Speaker 1: absolutely believe it. Obviously, the Jaguars defense, and that's a
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Speaker 1: key thing we're talking about. You know, they knew at
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Speaker 1: that point the Patriots that they were gonna win in
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Speaker 1: their mind. Uh significant. They also knew in the AFC
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Speaker 1: Championship game last year they went away when they were
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Speaker 1: down ten. And I'm saying this exaggeratedly key for the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: They knew yesterday they were going to stop him. And
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Speaker 1: that's a huge change in terms of the maturity level
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Speaker 1: of the team down in that locker room. Yeah, you
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Speaker 1: talked about the maturity level. This bench always has a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun, but they're focused. I saw a new
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Speaker 1: level of focus with that linebacker corps. When they got
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Speaker 1: off the field, it was Telvin Smith and Myles Jack
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Speaker 1: with a whiteboard just by themselves going over plays and
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Speaker 1: Leon Jacobs, who was out of the game, just the
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Speaker 1: three of them standing there the entire time the offense
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Speaker 1: was on the field. They know what's expected of It
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Speaker 1: was a newfound focus. I saw they had to because
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, without the consistent threat outside, knew that he
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Speaker 1: was going to dump the ball off a lot. He
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Speaker 1: had guys, what did he throw nine twelve attempts on
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Speaker 1: opening day? Two running backs, So they knew. They knew
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Speaker 1: they were going to be targeted, and if they shut
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Speaker 1: it down, it was really going to be difficult for
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady to move Anyways, Telvin Smith said after the game,
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Speaker 1: they knew everything on the Patriots offense runs through Brady, Groom, Casky,
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Speaker 1: and White, and they talked about to Sean shutting Casky down,
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Speaker 1: but it was also if they shut down White, Uh
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Speaker 1: the the e key. Miles Jack's not a kid anymore,
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Speaker 1: He's a grown up NFL adult football player. Pretty good
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Speaker 1: on my pretty good athlete to say the least. All Right,
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Speaker 1: last big thing is what's next. What's next is a
19:13
Speaker 1: team that is coming into the state and that beat
19:15
Speaker 1: you twice last year. So at the end of the game,
19:17
Speaker 1: after Doug's pregame, our postgame huddle speech, lunch, Larente mccraie
19:21
Speaker 1: gets in the huddle and says, hey, great wing guys,
19:23
Speaker 1: but rowing two against these guys, let's focus, let's get going,
19:27
Speaker 1: let's focus next. Yeah, we mentioned that. So a little
19:29
Speaker 1: bit of a revenge tour here, a little bit of
19:31
Speaker 1: a redemption if you will, where you've got the Titans
19:33
Speaker 1: coming in and the Titans at the end of last year,
19:35
Speaker 1: we're saying, well, okay, they maybe division champs, but they
19:37
Speaker 1: didn't beat us, right, Uh, Titans are coming and beat
19:40
Speaker 1: up along the offensive front, which brings us to what
19:43
Speaker 1: else is next for the Jags. We have not heard
19:46
Speaker 1: from the Jaguars yet this morning, but the word on
19:49
Speaker 1: the street from National reporters is that Cam Robinson has
19:52
Speaker 1: done for the season with a torn a c l
19:54
Speaker 1: which that was the first thing they were looking when
19:56
Speaker 1: he was on the ground, and he left the stadium
19:58
Speaker 1: last night on crutches, Uh, with a big leg brace on.
20:02
Speaker 1: So assume that that's the case, Josh Wells, next man up.
20:07
Speaker 1: Imagine there's gonna be a roster movi here somewhere finding
20:09
Speaker 1: a tackle. Yeah you think, because uh, you don't get
20:14
Speaker 1: the idea based on what they did during pre season
20:17
Speaker 1: that they believe Will Richardson is ready for that prime
20:21
Speaker 1: backup role. Uh, he's more of a right tackle than
20:24
Speaker 1: a left tackle anyway. Yeah, and uh so yes, and
20:29
Speaker 1: and well is not the ideal scenario or or he
20:32
Speaker 1: would be the start. That's pretty obvious. I the great
20:36
Speaker 1: teams must overcome a one or two or three catastrophic injuries.
20:40
Speaker 1: Might say catastrophic, I mean season ending, right, And Uh,
20:43
Speaker 1: this is that Here's that they have been able to
20:46
Speaker 1: show they can overcome Marquise Lee yesterday, d d Westbrook
20:49
Speaker 1: and Dante Moncrieff and the receiver's coming up with big plays.
20:52
Speaker 1: But now they've got to figure out a way to
20:54
Speaker 1: play at the left tackle spot with a backup. Yeah.
20:57
Speaker 1: And this is a different conceptual injury than it was,
21:02
Speaker 1: say when Bisselli tore his a c L and meaning
21:06
Speaker 1: arrow wise the left tackle in the nineties, even in
21:09
Speaker 1: their two thousands was considered an irreplaceable part that you
21:14
Speaker 1: had to have offenses. Now you know the league can
21:18
Speaker 1: scheme more around this. There have been some Super Bowl
21:21
Speaker 1: champions in recent years. Uh. The Eagles were not this,
21:24
Speaker 1: but there have been some Super Bowl champions in recent
21:26
Speaker 1: years with awful, awful tackle play. Uh, you can overcome
21:30
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21:32
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22:55
Speaker 1: Monday morning. A lot to talk about over the after
22:58
Speaker 1: that big Patriots win. We mentioned highlights and there's a
23:01
Speaker 1: lot of them. A lot of them are going to
23:02
Speaker 1: get lost because they're not a touchdown or fumble, right, Sorry,
23:07
Speaker 1: talk about the lines, and I just I wanted to
23:09
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that that stadium was unbelievable, awesome, great,
23:13
Speaker 1: great atmosphere. I mean I didn't see there were the
23:16
Speaker 1: very up there were the bud zone was full. Um,
23:19
Speaker 1: the sky patio was full, the deck on this end
23:24
Speaker 1: was packed. Um. The stadium was it was. It was loud.
23:28
Speaker 1: It was an incredible scene down it was loud. There's
23:31
Speaker 1: so many, uh then using levels that there's gonna be
23:35
Speaker 1: some empty seats because people are moving races. That that's
23:37
Speaker 1: the NFL in general. They're standing room places. Gathering spaces.
23:41
Speaker 1: It's not so much a row in a seat like
23:42
Speaker 1: it used to be, but we're insulating in the process.
23:45
Speaker 1: One of the things that sometimes frustrating about covering a
23:47
Speaker 1: game here is it's almost soundproof inside the press box.
23:51
Speaker 1: You can't really get a feel for how loud it is.
23:53
Speaker 1: But from what I could here, it was as good.
23:56
Speaker 1: I mean I expected it to be, but it's as
23:58
Speaker 1: good a crowd as I've seen here. This hasn't been bad.
24:00
Speaker 1: But the good news for you was you didn't sweat.
24:03
Speaker 1: It was fine. I mean, I was with you when
24:05
Speaker 1: I first got out of the elevator. There's a long
24:09
Speaker 1: corridor between where I sit and where the elevator. It
24:13
Speaker 1: was a little warm on that walk. I feel so
24:15
Speaker 1: sorry for you the agony. Sorry, but I got to
24:19
Speaker 1: my seat and it was cool and I was pipy,
24:21
Speaker 1: pipy new word. Guy's gonna make fun of it, but
24:25
Speaker 1: it's a good word to the highlights. Yeah, we need
24:27
Speaker 1: you to define it, if you could by by Wednesday
24:29
Speaker 1: show I think we feel it. I'm going to make
24:31
Speaker 1: a graphic with a definition and i'll show Wednesday. We'd
24:34
Speaker 1: like maybe you can be the Twitter powl. It could be.
24:37
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the highlights we mentioned. There's
24:39
Speaker 1: a lot of them. The first one that we have
24:41
Speaker 1: to mention is the first touchdown catch for Dante Monty
24:44
Speaker 1: about the season to set the tone for the offense,
24:47
Speaker 1: let's grant the running backs touchdown creep. I was standing
24:56
Speaker 1: right next to you. Actually we were in that corner
24:58
Speaker 1: and that bowl was thrown. It was a laser. It
25:02
Speaker 1: was like Tom Brady threw it, to be honest with you,
25:05
Speaker 1: and a lot of people said, that's in Alan Robinson catch,
25:07
Speaker 1: go up, bring it down, go get it. I agree
25:10
Speaker 1: with that, John Yeah, and I like the like celebration. Um,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know it's uh, we're in such a quick trigger,
25:22
Speaker 1: quick to criticize deal. Now, people writing this guy off
25:28
Speaker 1: after one week when you actually had a couple of
25:31
Speaker 1: decent catches. Um, they signed this guy for reason. They
25:34
Speaker 1: signed this guy for that. I don't I said during
25:37
Speaker 1: the offseason, I don't have many yards. He's gonna have
25:39
Speaker 1: to see how many touchdowns. But moments like that are
25:43
Speaker 1: what without him you don't have. And it's easy to say, well,
25:50
Speaker 1: let's just draft guys and have been We saw yesterday
25:55
Speaker 1: why it's scary to have rookies in big games. Early
25:58
Speaker 1: DJ Chark with a had been a very costly fumble.
26:02
Speaker 1: He's going to be very, very good. He's not ready
26:05
Speaker 1: to be Donte moncrieff level of production yet. I think
26:09
Speaker 1: eventually he'll be better than Donte Moncrief. But right now
26:12
Speaker 1: for this team, you need what Donte Moncrief gave you
26:14
Speaker 1: on that play well, and he had a chance to
26:16
Speaker 1: give you a huge play late in the ball game too,
26:18
Speaker 1: and Blake put the ball on the spot and he
26:19
Speaker 1: just it was kind of over the shoulder. It wasn't
26:21
Speaker 1: an easy catch and probably, yeah it was in his hands,
26:25
Speaker 1: he probably should have called it. I don't think he's
26:26
Speaker 1: gonna go to the Pro Bowl, but you have to
26:29
Speaker 1: have certain skill sets and things that you can go
26:33
Speaker 1: to in moments, and that's what he brings you. Well,
26:36
Speaker 1: I guess what I say by that is is that
26:37
Speaker 1: there's as good as he was moment yesterday, there's a
26:40
Speaker 1: chance for to be better. Absolutely. Yeah, there's things that
26:42
Speaker 1: he can fix, that's for sure, all right. Next highlight
26:45
Speaker 1: could be the catch of the season, at least so far.
26:47
Speaker 1: In week two down, I want to say, if you're
26:50
Speaker 1: back in the middle, I don't. Bellcrode is a great
27:03
Speaker 1: just across the field and in the end zone. I thought,
27:07
Speaker 1: did he really hold onto that? Did he get it in?
27:10
Speaker 1: And afterwards I said to him, I said, that's the
27:13
Speaker 1: new Odell Beckham Jr. And he looked at me, he
27:15
Speaker 1: goes nah. I said yeah, and he said, no, that's
27:18
Speaker 1: Randy Moss right there. Um, he's a Randy Moss fan. Uh,
27:22
Speaker 1: he wears Randy's number. What what do you say about
27:26
Speaker 1: that other than it didn't happen. I don't believe it happened.
27:30
Speaker 1: I mean, because he can't help your breath after that catch,
27:32
Speaker 1: thinking oh God, is he gonna drop this the ground?
27:35
Speaker 1: It's not possible. I actually got a text or a
27:39
Speaker 1: email from an zone reader with that email attached and
27:43
Speaker 1: say can you explain this? And and you can't because
27:47
Speaker 1: it really defies the lots of physics. Uh, there's probably
27:50
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, I mean, when you make
27:52
Speaker 1: a catch like that, there has to be a little
27:53
Speaker 1: luck in the way that it's still but unbelievable and
27:56
Speaker 1: actually said it might. It's it's definitely a catch of
27:58
Speaker 1: the year so far, and there's going to be a
28:00
Speaker 1: better one. It's going to be on a rush. Boy,
28:03
Speaker 1: that could be one clearly better than that at all.
28:06
Speaker 1: That was huge. And right after that first intent, after
28:09
Speaker 1: that great catch, Cole comes big again from targets first
28:13
Speaker 1: down from the Patriots four going this time so much
28:20
Speaker 1: more comes catch and that when he high fives security
28:25
Speaker 1: guard way up the tunnel. Well, first of all, cool
28:28
Speaker 1: Cool has a superstar personality. The guy is absolutely a
28:31
Speaker 1: great kid. Uh And to see him do well. Everyone
28:35
Speaker 1: in this building that knows him is thrilled for the
28:36
Speaker 1: guy from Kentucky Westleyan Well, and they've loved this guy
28:40
Speaker 1: since he got here. In the off season when people
28:43
Speaker 1: talked about where they gonna do a receiver, Um, I
28:47
Speaker 1: actually heard there were people who in o t a
28:50
Speaker 1: s wondering if he would make the team this year,
28:52
Speaker 1: you know, and it was like, make the team. He's
28:56
Speaker 1: their next star. Did you not see the way he
28:57
Speaker 1: played last year? That's the same tunnel he ran up
28:59
Speaker 1: the best against. Watched this He has the wherewithal not
29:04
Speaker 1: only half the security guard, but he tossed the ball
29:06
Speaker 1: into the stands as he's going underneath with a very
29:08
Speaker 1: small margin. Freyer, it was. It was a terrific celebration,
29:12
Speaker 1: probably even as good as the guitar. Real subtle there
29:16
Speaker 1: it see. I don't think this could be pre planned.
29:19
Speaker 1: I think here he had lived this. He sudden there
29:22
Speaker 1: was how he waited to put his arms out to
29:26
Speaker 1: announce the arrival of the ball until the very last second.
29:29
Speaker 1: For a young receiver. That was a very savvy of
29:31
Speaker 1: veteran move because the received the corner wasn't alerted to
29:35
Speaker 1: the presence of the ball and by the way the
29:37
Speaker 1: ball was thrown on a dime and significant for him.
29:41
Speaker 1: Those were two really good plays. Uh, it didn't stop
29:46
Speaker 1: there for him. Yesterday he also had a huge I
29:49
Speaker 1: want to say it was third down, but it was
29:51
Speaker 1: a big moment where he got open on a little
29:55
Speaker 1: out route about twenty years down field for for what
29:57
Speaker 1: at the time was a big play. He also had
29:59
Speaker 1: a you ds on crossing routes. If the statu heard
30:03
Speaker 1: is correct, I think he's had three d yard games
30:05
Speaker 1: in his last four Uh. Don't forget with this guy.
30:09
Speaker 1: He did almost nothing for five or six games last year.
30:12
Speaker 1: So the stats that he's compiled, the things that he've done,
30:15
Speaker 1: he's done have all been within the context really of
30:18
Speaker 1: one season. I believe in his last x number of games.
30:23
Speaker 1: He's close to a thousand yards for a sixteen game period. Um,
30:28
Speaker 1: if everything you're hearing about this guy and seeing about
30:30
Speaker 1: this guy is correct, he may be their next star,
30:34
Speaker 1: all right. Later on in the game a third and
30:36
Speaker 1: thirteen Austin Seferian Jenkins, they got to convert in the
30:39
Speaker 1: boat strikes again third three portals what's lots jickens So
30:50
Speaker 1: you could just see yesterday there was a third down
30:55
Speaker 1: and nine conversion to a s J. There were a
30:59
Speaker 1: couple of conversions. The relationship that we talked about him
31:02
Speaker 1: going to quarterback meetings and and them working on the
31:05
Speaker 1: sidelines throughout camp and the preseasons was on display. There
31:09
Speaker 1: was a comfort level between those two guys. More of
31:11
Speaker 1: that to come this fault. You see, that's his first
31:14
Speaker 1: look right out of the pocket. He's automatically looking for
31:16
Speaker 1: him much and it was and he's looking for because
31:20
Speaker 1: that's what was scheme to be Um. I assumed incorrectly
31:26
Speaker 1: that it had there had to have been offensive past
31:29
Speaker 1: interference on the play because you don't see a tight
31:32
Speaker 1: income that wide open. And I was incorrect, which I
31:36
Speaker 1: usually am not in correct, but it uh it again.
31:40
Speaker 1: I thought that play, much like the Mercedes Lewis touchdown
31:44
Speaker 1: last year in the championship game. Speaks to all offensive
31:49
Speaker 1: corners get a lot of criticism when things don't go
31:52
Speaker 1: right because a big time game from Nathaniel Hackett, who
31:56
Speaker 1: has shown time and time again that he is very
32:00
Speaker 1: capable of scheming big time games in big time situations
32:05
Speaker 1: against big time teams as J just making plays and
32:08
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett taking full advantage of him as we saw
32:11
Speaker 1: right here, and we're not going to see the get off,
32:13
Speaker 1: so to speak. But he's five yards opened past the corner,
32:17
Speaker 1: so big play there and more to come from a
32:19
Speaker 1: s J this fall. Yeah, you were waiting for him
32:21
Speaker 1: to make a big time play like that. You knew
32:23
Speaker 1: what was going to happen in the preseason, but for
32:25
Speaker 1: it to happen in the regular season finally, especially in
32:27
Speaker 1: front of your home flans, like this is why he's here,
32:30
Speaker 1: all right, onto the defensive side of the ball. This
32:32
Speaker 1: guy said earlier in the week, I'm going to make
32:33
Speaker 1: a play that is going to change the game, and
32:36
Speaker 1: it certainly did. Brady does Jackson recovering, and from that
32:48
Speaker 1: angle you get the great view of just how difficult
32:52
Speaker 1: it was for him Fowler Jr. That is to get
32:56
Speaker 1: away from waddle the right tackle and at the ball.
33:00
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's amazing. Look at him holding
33:02
Speaker 1: him back. He's trying to pull him back, and he recovers.
33:08
Speaker 1: I got in the locker room late, and uh I
33:11
Speaker 1: had a chance to talked Dante, just me and him
33:14
Speaker 1: for a few minutes about that play. He said, First
33:17
Speaker 1: of all, I asked him, did it seem like it
33:19
Speaker 1: took you forever to get the ball? And I was
33:22
Speaker 1: talking about when he was being held. He thought I
33:26
Speaker 1: was talking about the contact with the ball in the
33:28
Speaker 1: fumble and he said yeah. He said, yeah, it felt
33:32
Speaker 1: to him he saw the ball out, he said, it
33:34
Speaker 1: felt like I was never going to get there because
33:37
Speaker 1: it started going in slow motion. And then he kind
33:39
Speaker 1: of laughter. He goes, I really didn't feel like I
33:41
Speaker 1: hit it that hard. Was it was sort of like
33:43
Speaker 1: a little love pat and the ball came out, And
33:46
Speaker 1: then he said yeah, once he was on the ground
33:48
Speaker 1: and his shoulders were being held, he said, it felt
33:50
Speaker 1: like minutes until that ball. This is why you don't
33:56
Speaker 1: cut or trade good football place and this is why
34:01
Speaker 1: that play right there. Think about this now. The interception
34:04
Speaker 1: set them up first and ten down eleven points at
34:07
Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line with umen minutes to go
34:11
Speaker 1: in the ball game. Plenty of time for Tom Brady.
34:13
Speaker 1: Plenty of time for Tom Brady. Three plays later, he
34:16
Speaker 1: basically ends the ball game. Didn't quite end it, but
34:19
Speaker 1: end the ball game by giving the ball back to
34:21
Speaker 1: play Boardles in company with that kind of a play
34:23
Speaker 1: gave him back their mojo in the game. Yeah. I mean,
34:26
Speaker 1: that's why somebody that play right there, he's an absolute lion,
34:30
Speaker 1: and that is why someone is going to pay him
34:32
Speaker 1: big money. It's why what he does. And everybody always
34:36
Speaker 1: asked what you know? They they focused on what he's not,
34:41
Speaker 1: and he's not your Van Miller guy, number three overall
34:45
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. But I've always said if last year,
34:49
Speaker 1: when this defense plays well, it has that avalanche star mentality,
34:54
Speaker 1: like it looks like there's fourteen guys out there. He
34:58
Speaker 1: when he's not on the field with a it doesn't
35:01
Speaker 1: look as intimate. And maybe it's because he didn't know
35:03
Speaker 1: where he's going. I mean, maybe he's just running around
35:06
Speaker 1: crazy making plays, but somehow he's he's throwing his arms
35:10
Speaker 1: around the balls coming out guys are getting hit hard
35:13
Speaker 1: when he's around. He's a huge factor for why this
35:16
Speaker 1: defense is frightening. I get it. Von Miller is super
35:19
Speaker 1: Bowl m v P. You know, one of the great
35:21
Speaker 1: players in the game in the last twenty years. However,
35:24
Speaker 1: when they were here, when the Broncos were here in
35:27
Speaker 1: he did nothing until one series in the fourth quarter
35:30
Speaker 1: and it was bang bang bang, game over with. And
35:33
Speaker 1: that's what he did on that one play. I know
35:35
Speaker 1: there's a disparity there in terms of production, but he
35:38
Speaker 1: gives you the ability to have that kind of a
35:40
Speaker 1: performance where when the game is on the line, that's
35:43
Speaker 1: the guy. That's why he's getting paid. It's gonna be
35:45
Speaker 1: interesting to watch him this year because he has been
35:52
Speaker 1: progressively better. Missed the first games. We didn't talk about him.
35:55
Speaker 1: A whole lot uh a lot ahead for him, and
35:59
Speaker 1: you know, I wonder if he's not going to be sneaky,
36:01
Speaker 1: really really really good this year. Earlier in the week
36:03
Speaker 1: I asked him in an interview. He said, you had
36:05
Speaker 1: the come out game in the FC Championship game. Are
36:07
Speaker 1: you going to perform at that level consistently? Are you
36:09
Speaker 1: able to? He says, I'll play like that the rest
36:11
Speaker 1: of my career. Here we go. This is how I'm
36:12
Speaker 1: gonna show us right and he did. He did yesterday
36:15
Speaker 1: the last highlight back onto the offensive side the ball,
36:18
Speaker 1: first and ten, first play of the drive, near the
36:20
Speaker 1: end of the game, and Westbrook just makes one move
36:23
Speaker 1: and it's over. So now still throwing him and Considerabile Jacksonville.
36:30
Speaker 1: This's just Westbrook still about kids. You know this morning
36:42
Speaker 1: there there are national writers and common commentators who are
36:47
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, if the Jaguars get this kind
36:50
Speaker 1: of quarterback play, but if the Jaguars get this kind
36:53
Speaker 1: of game planning, because that was scheme right there. And
36:55
Speaker 1: then you've got guys like Keelan Cole, indeed Westbrook that
36:59
Speaker 1: we all know have made great progress this team, as
37:03
Speaker 1: you said, it's their time. And when you get these
37:06
Speaker 1: guys making places like that, what a huge play in
37:09
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when they needed something and what it
37:13
Speaker 1: was going to correct Ashley because she said one movement
37:15
Speaker 1: it was all over. One movement wasn't all over. Because
37:19
Speaker 1: the healing Cole, who every time you used to talk
37:22
Speaker 1: about markis Lee being a good blocker, people with sort
37:27
Speaker 1: of discounts, who cares to he's a good block right
37:30
Speaker 1: right there is you know, as big. If they don't
37:34
Speaker 1: score there, I get it that they're probably gonna win it,
37:41
Speaker 1: but putting the foot on the throat at that point,
37:45
Speaker 1: the Helan Cole moment. That's where huge plays come from,
37:48
Speaker 1: is with effort down the field. And if if there
37:51
Speaker 1: was a play that sort of defined that game to me,
37:54
Speaker 1: it was Helan Cole spark by the way, that is
37:56
Speaker 1: what Westbrook did at Oklahoma. He took the bowl on
37:59
Speaker 1: shore routes and ran by people and wow, the play
38:05
Speaker 1: making ability that he has. And now Nathaniel Hackett has
38:09
Speaker 1: said I'm going to be aggressive. I'm gonna stay aggressive. Um,
38:14
Speaker 1: don't forget those two guys, Clan Colan, d D Westbrook
38:16
Speaker 1: big factors. When Blake talked early in training camp about
38:22
Speaker 1: their knowledge of the offense being so much more at
38:25
Speaker 1: the end of last season, their knowledge of the offense
38:27
Speaker 1: wasn't where it is now. They're a much better equipped
38:30
Speaker 1: team to continue attacking, attacking, attacking than they were in
38:33
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. And they can do it, both
38:35
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38:37
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38:40
Speaker 1: Westbrook was on injured reserve. He didn't come until November.
38:43
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40:22
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Speaker 1: JP will update it throughout the course of drive Time,
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Speaker 1: not drive Time Happy hour this evening, so expa time
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Speaker 1: for ozone snapshot we needed. I was zoned for a
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Speaker 1: little while, but back well, right, I mean zone to
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Speaker 1: zoning out. Well, if your zoning isn't it ozone by default?
40:55
Speaker 1: Fair point? Fair point, It's all right. Let's go with
40:58
Speaker 1: j B from Jackson Ill. Just how good is Keeling Cole?
41:02
Speaker 1: Why wasn't he drafted? Well, it wasn't drafted because he
41:05
Speaker 1: went to Kentucky Westley and uh, and you know I
41:08
Speaker 1: was standing next to him in the locker room. It
41:10
Speaker 1: was probably after you talked to him, Brian and Uh.
41:12
Speaker 1: They were asking him about the crowd in the game.
41:15
Speaker 1: They don't get that for the the Alfred State, he said,
41:18
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes. I can't give you any perspective
41:21
Speaker 1: on crowds. I was playing for I was playing in
41:24
Speaker 1: front of a hunter people two years ago. He goes,
41:27
Speaker 1: I can tell he's pretty cool. Yeah. So the the
41:31
Speaker 1: adjustment that he's made, uh, is made you know, how
41:35
Speaker 1: good is he? I think his chance to be really good.
41:37
Speaker 1: And we talked about earlier. This is a guy who
41:40
Speaker 1: literally did nothing for five or six games to the
41:43
Speaker 1: point where you sort of wonder does he belong? And
41:46
Speaker 1: they never lost sight of him. Uh. You know, he's
41:50
Speaker 1: got that kind of speed and they always loved his speed.
41:54
Speaker 1: But not only this, but the play in the end zone,
41:58
Speaker 1: the touchdown. He's not just speed. He's making some catches
42:02
Speaker 1: that are interesting in terms of where is he going
42:05
Speaker 1: to fit among the league's best receivers because he might
42:08
Speaker 1: be heading So let me ask you this question. How
42:10
Speaker 1: many players do you know that can make that catch? Well,
42:14
Speaker 1: there are lots of great athletes, don't get me wrong,
42:16
Speaker 1: but that that isn't just about being a great athlete.
42:19
Speaker 1: That's about reaching for the ball, having big hands. I
42:22
Speaker 1: get all of that, but that twisting and then able
42:25
Speaker 1: to control the ball. That's not an every receiver kind
42:29
Speaker 1: of and there's probably not one guy on every team
42:31
Speaker 1: that can make that catch. I'm gonna couch this by
42:34
Speaker 1: saying I don't expect him to make this kind of
42:36
Speaker 1: catch every week. Well, but who does? But if you
42:39
Speaker 1: watch practice in the time that we watch, he he
42:43
Speaker 1: does make some one handed catches pretty routinely, and practice
42:47
Speaker 1: that that's not a complete flu More impressive is the
42:52
Speaker 1: play that we just watched in the highlight, because that's
42:55
Speaker 1: the sort of thing that you can replicate and do
42:56
Speaker 1: over and over again. And the crossing routes that he
42:59
Speaker 1: caught yesterday, the way was getting open um. It's great
43:02
Speaker 1: to have the highlights. Well, what's going to get him
43:04
Speaker 1: production is some things he did yesterday. I think he
43:06
Speaker 1: can do consistent. Here's why I bring up how many
43:09
Speaker 1: guys can do that? Because how many guys have the
43:11
Speaker 1: upside that he has to be able to make those
43:13
Speaker 1: kinds of catches. And still from Kentucky Wesleyan be just
43:17
Speaker 1: a season into this thing in terms of games and productions.
43:20
Speaker 1: The amazing thing about the catch it almost looked like
43:23
Speaker 1: he almost double clutched it, like you know, And I
43:25
Speaker 1: don't know how you double clutch it at that. I
43:27
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm not smart enough to understand what happens
43:30
Speaker 1: or athletic enough to do it, and not athletic enough
43:33
Speaker 1: to think about it. I would be much less try
43:35
Speaker 1: to duplicate that I would be injured. Most people would.
43:40
Speaker 1: Let's go to al and Orange Park. Was that Blake
43:43
Speaker 1: Bartle's best game as a professional, you know? I think
43:47
Speaker 1: it has to be considered because of the stage. Forget
43:50
Speaker 1: the numbers, although the numbers say it's really close, right,
43:53
Speaker 1: And but I mean he was really good. Remember against Seattle.
43:57
Speaker 1: He was really good against Pittsburgh in a playoff game. Yeah,
44:00
Speaker 1: I went back in life, so it's not like he hasn't.
44:05
Speaker 1: I think what's significant is, like I said, he did
44:08
Speaker 1: against Seattle, and he against Houston Indianapolis too, But those
44:11
Speaker 1: were teams that were really struggling. He's done it now
44:15
Speaker 1: in three really big games. And what is that about
44:20
Speaker 1: an eight game stretch. That's pretty high percent. So I
44:23
Speaker 1: went back and looked at the numbers, and and some
44:25
Speaker 1: of those compared. The Steelers game compares very favorable to that.
44:28
Speaker 1: And consider that that was obviously a playoff game in
44:31
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in the bitter cold. You have to make a
44:33
Speaker 1: case for that game because he made similar throws. But
44:36
Speaker 1: in terms of the regular season, that was as good
44:38
Speaker 1: as he's been and you have to take it into
44:41
Speaker 1: contextual view and see when he made the throws, not
44:44
Speaker 1: just how many yards he threw for, and when he
44:46
Speaker 1: ran for it and the situation that surrounded. I mentioned
44:49
Speaker 1: that he Moncreef dropped the ball down the field setting
44:53
Speaker 1: up third down and eight in the fourth quarter, and
44:55
Speaker 1: the very next play like runs ten yards for the
44:58
Speaker 1: first down. He took the game on his own shoulders.
45:01
Speaker 1: And so in terms of the regular season, absolutely his
45:04
Speaker 1: best game ever. In terms of his whole career, it's
45:07
Speaker 1: right there with the Steelers performance in Pittsburgh last year
45:10
Speaker 1: in the divisional round. But I think the best thing is,
45:13
Speaker 1: you know, the things that he did do not look
45:17
Speaker 1: like things that he can't replicate, and some of the
45:19
Speaker 1: things he was doing well such as pocket presents, uh,
45:22
Speaker 1: seeing the right seeing the right receiver, um, are things
45:26
Speaker 1: that are going to bode well moving forward. He's not
45:28
Speaker 1: going to have a game like that every week, but
45:31
Speaker 1: there are things that he did that make you think, Okay,
45:35
Speaker 1: this was not a fluke. This is something that he's
45:37
Speaker 1: building toward and improving, and uh, good for him. Like
45:42
Speaker 1: the kid a moment in the game that I was like, Wow,
45:44
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. Was when he was rushing the first
45:46
Speaker 1: down into the spin move. That was like, that was
45:49
Speaker 1: the ten yard. That was the tenure run I was
45:51
Speaker 1: talking about for you drop the ball and a little
45:53
Speaker 1: spin move, shake the defender. I didn't love the run
45:56
Speaker 1: over put the shoulder in. No, but you know that
46:00
Speaker 1: scares me. But it's what he is. I gotta take
46:03
Speaker 1: it for what it's worth. All right, let's go to
46:05
Speaker 1: Brian from Manchester. I wish this was the jogs we
46:08
Speaker 1: saw every week. When offense is an attack moll with
46:11
Speaker 1: the defense is when the team is at its best. Yeah,
46:15
Speaker 1: and I get this is a topic and it's so
46:19
Speaker 1: hard to re explain this every week and and to
46:24
Speaker 1: sort of get it through that. They game plan based
46:28
Speaker 1: on who they're playing what they believe will get them
46:33
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. So you you don't necessarily
46:39
Speaker 1: game plan all out throw take chances against every team
46:44
Speaker 1: because you believe, okay, our best chance to win is
46:47
Speaker 1: doing this this week there fifteen and eight. With this regime,
46:55
Speaker 1: I think going if you include Marons last two games
47:00
Speaker 1: in sixteen and last season in this season, they're good.
47:05
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. They have won far more
47:09
Speaker 1: games than they've lost. They know had a game plan
47:13
Speaker 1: for this team. I think you'll see them be a
47:16
Speaker 1: little more aggressive in more situations. I don't think you'll
47:19
Speaker 1: see this kind of thing every week. They know what
47:22
Speaker 1: they're doing. I have nothing to add to that. Just
47:25
Speaker 1: good stuff, keep it going. That's my motto. That's all
47:30
Speaker 1: I got at all done. That's pretty good. You did
47:35
Speaker 1: good job, Zone did good? Did alright? When we come back?
47:38
Speaker 1: Oh no, we've got NFL headlines that let's do that
47:41
Speaker 1: right now. NFL headlines, And there are some from around
47:44
Speaker 1: the National Football leaguesterday, and probably none bigger than the
47:46
Speaker 1: first one, and that is what. How about Vante Davis
47:51
Speaker 1: retiring at halftime of the Bills game. I couldn't wait
47:55
Speaker 1: till the game was over to get out of there.
47:57
Speaker 1: He walked away from football and his teammates in Buffalo.
48:01
Speaker 1: I get it, it was tough yesterday, but your teammates.
48:06
Speaker 1: That looks to me like the kind of decision that
48:08
Speaker 1: he will regret. I hope so, and not not financially.
48:12
Speaker 1: You can do that, Yeah, yeah, I'll see myself out.
48:18
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna he's gonna have to give some
48:20
Speaker 1: of the money back. The guy was gonna this hasn't
48:22
Speaker 1: gone well. The guy was in the Pro Bowl three
48:26
Speaker 1: years ago and at halftime I've never even heard that
48:29
Speaker 1: abruptly announces his retirement. I like how he said how
48:33
Speaker 1: he meant no disrespect by it too. What do you
48:35
Speaker 1: mean you meant no disrespect? There was no respect involved. Yeah,
48:38
Speaker 1: but you got incredible thinking outside the box. Nobody's done
48:42
Speaker 1: it before. Go big. He's getting talked about if he
48:45
Speaker 1: wanted his name off, if you're gonna go out, go
48:46
Speaker 1: out and stop, I would say he's being talked about.
48:49
Speaker 1: I don't know whether that style or not. How about
48:51
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or in this case fits and Patrick? Yes, I
48:58
Speaker 1: thought so too. Last week, UH each threw four touchdown passes,
49:02
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick in Tampa and Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. UH.
49:07
Speaker 1: This week, Fitzpatrick does it again and then upstages everyone
49:11
Speaker 1: with his post game press conference attire. And Patrick Mahomes
49:16
Speaker 1: six touchdowns yesterday in a seven win over Kansas City,
49:20
Speaker 1: setting an NFL record for most touchdowns in the first
49:24
Speaker 1: two games of a season and a Chiefs record with
49:27
Speaker 1: six touchdowns in a game. Can't wait to see him
49:31
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. I mean, the guy has
49:32
Speaker 1: an absolute cannon for an arm and an incredible offensive mind,
49:35
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and they're rolling in turns today. He's years old. Yeah,
49:41
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see what teams do to
49:45
Speaker 1: take what he's doing away, because that happens with quarterbacks.
49:48
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing it a little bit with Deshaun
49:50
Speaker 1: Watson some other quarterbacks. But when you have Travis Kelsey
49:52
Speaker 1: and Tyree Hill and Andy Reid historically is really good
49:57
Speaker 1: coming out of the box, uh and game playing with
50:01
Speaker 1: somebody that you haven't seen. Um, I think it was
50:05
Speaker 1: really good. I think his talent is very high. It
50:07
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see as as the Jaguars get them,
50:11
Speaker 1: maybe five or six games in what the book on
50:14
Speaker 1: My Homes has become. By the way, I love covering
50:17
Speaker 1: this team. I want to cover Fitzpatrick. Yeah that's fantastic.
50:23
Speaker 1: Not in the expense of covering this team, but you
50:25
Speaker 1: mean maybe one game? Yeah with him, I'll fly down. Final. Uh.
50:28
Speaker 1: Final NFL headline today is Thomas trending upwards? How about this?
50:33
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, the second year receiver for the New Orleans
50:35
Speaker 1: Saints twenty six catches in his first two games, and
50:39
Speaker 1: he is on pace for nearly two and twenty four
50:42
Speaker 1: receptions in an NFL season. That would be a record.
50:44
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, by eight receptions something like that. So, uh,
50:51
Speaker 1: they narrowly won over Cleveland yesterday. Hearts go out to
50:54
Speaker 1: the factory of sadness. Yeah, it may have been a
50:58
Speaker 1: season saver for the Saints. You know if oh and two,
51:02
Speaker 1: it's a little dramatic called a season. Say, lost to Cleveland.
51:06
Speaker 1: It's a tough hill. All right, Well, that's all the
51:09
Speaker 1: cleverness we have an NFL headlines. We take a break.
51:12
Speaker 1: When we come back, we will give you the results
51:15
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Speaker 1: us on Jaguars drag time, let's take a look at
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Speaker 1: our Exfinity player of the game. Pole Lake Barrels is
52:48
Speaker 1: the player of the game getting on the wagon. How
52:51
Speaker 1: can you not I know, there were so many huge performances,
52:55
Speaker 1: but well, you know, you know, you know who would
52:58
Speaker 1: stand there and argue for himself, the guy that this
53:01
Speaker 1: week legitimately put to Shaun Gibson with me mentioned him.
53:06
Speaker 1: Yet he had two catches for fifteen yards, one on
53:09
Speaker 1: their opening drive for nine yards, one in the opening
53:12
Speaker 1: minute of the game, and one the rest of the way.
53:16
Speaker 1: And that is sensational work. It was. I sat there
53:19
Speaker 1: and listened to Sean for about ten minutes after the game,
53:21
Speaker 1: and did he stopped? No, It's absolutely fantastic. Reporter walked
53:26
Speaker 1: up to him and asked, how did you guys stop Gronkowski.
53:31
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrased, He said, you guys, it was me, but
53:35
Speaker 1: he and love it. He that's who too, Sean is
53:39
Speaker 1: and a lot of what he says is very tongue
53:42
Speaker 1: in cheek. He knows he wasn't the only person to
53:45
Speaker 1: cover ground, but he took on ground and it was
53:50
Speaker 1: not twenty land on ground. Asked to shown if it
53:53
Speaker 1: was thirty nine land and he had a big smile
53:56
Speaker 1: while he was saying no. So I think deep down
53:58
Speaker 1: he's got a logo going on right now, trying to
54:00
Speaker 1: figure it out that there was incredible game for him.
54:02
Speaker 1: There was one in the third quarter right at the
54:05
Speaker 1: at the pylon. Gronkowski was outside and he stepped inside
54:08
Speaker 1: and made a great play knocking it was coming right
54:10
Speaker 1: at me and I wondered, because Gronkowski has such luck,
54:13
Speaker 1: you don't realize watching him on TV like you do
54:16
Speaker 1: in person, just how long his arms are. There's a
54:19
Speaker 1: physical reason why he's as good as there's no doubt.
54:21
Speaker 1: I mean, he has the kind of body that you
54:23
Speaker 1: just can't create in the weight room. It's just that way.
54:26
Speaker 1: And DeShawn is not the longest, your tallest yet he
54:29
Speaker 1: had an incredible position and knocked the ball away big
54:32
Speaker 1: time played by him, and Deshan said at one point
54:34
Speaker 1: he was you know, they were running back and he
54:38
Speaker 1: was trying to give like, uh, Gronkowski, you think he
54:42
Speaker 1: was talking, yeah, and and he was trying to congrass
54:46
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, I really like coming here or
54:48
Speaker 1: like covering you and he said across he let me
54:50
Speaker 1: hang it and like h but he had I mean,
54:55
Speaker 1: it was fun. It's why they played the game. And
54:57
Speaker 1: you know it's it's uh as clay As Campbell said,
55:03
Speaker 1: there are so many guys on this team who are
55:05
Speaker 1: capable of performances like that. It's it's a rare bunch
55:10
Speaker 1: to have this many guys who can come up big
55:12
Speaker 1: the way they can't big yesterday. Alright, time to recap
55:15
Speaker 1: but Friday's he will, he won't, he might. I'll go first,
55:18
Speaker 1: go for it. I said Austin Stepari and Jenkins would
55:21
Speaker 1: be a big part of the game plan, and he
55:24
Speaker 1: was converting on third downs catching the touchdown pass definitely
55:29
Speaker 1: a factor in the game plan. I said he wouldn't
55:31
Speaker 1: drop the ball. He didn't, and I said he'd catch
55:33
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown. And technically, since this got them
55:36
Speaker 1: to twenty one and the Patriots only scored twenty, he
55:40
Speaker 1: did catch the game winning touchdown. I'll give you credit.
55:43
Speaker 1: That counts. That was good. I feel good about that.
55:45
Speaker 1: Good for you. That was my t Shaun Gibson moment
55:47
Speaker 1: on the show. By the way yourself, Okay, you're next
55:51
Speaker 1: my he will, he won't, he might? He three as
55:53
Speaker 1: like to call it now is Miles Jack. I said
55:57
Speaker 1: he will have a huge game and take advantage of the
55:59
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Seven tackles, want assists, one of the leaning
56:02
Speaker 1: tacklers on this defense. I said he had a pretty
56:04
Speaker 1: good game. I said he won't make it about himself.
56:07
Speaker 1: The Miles Jack wasn't down. We saw the posters, they
56:10
Speaker 1: were everywhere, but it wasn't about him. Especially with that focus.
56:13
Speaker 1: I saw behind the bench with Telvin Smith and Leon Jacobs.
56:16
Speaker 1: He was focused on the game. It wasn't about him,
56:18
Speaker 1: and I said, might he might have a game changing moment.
56:21
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he had a game changing moment, but
56:23
Speaker 1: just his presence was felts. Yeah, he had lots of
56:26
Speaker 1: tackles two out of three, ain't bad. His meatloaf one side.
56:28
Speaker 1: His presence was a game changing moment because I said
56:31
Speaker 1: earlier the speed of that linebacker corps uh negated a
56:35
Speaker 1: lot of what the Patriots like to do. So sometimes
56:38
Speaker 1: you don't have a game changing play, but the fact
56:40
Speaker 1: that you're on the field and making teams approach differently
56:44
Speaker 1: is a huge factor. And I thought Miles Jack was
56:46
Speaker 1: huge on that. Love al right, wrap us up, John.
56:48
Speaker 1: I believe I went with Jalen Ramsey. Is that right?
56:50
Speaker 1: You did? Uh? You know, I kind of missed with
56:52
Speaker 1: this one because I thought he was gonna cover grounk
56:54
Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I'll tell you what Jalen
56:56
Speaker 1: did do. Uh. There were times where he was critical
57:00
Speaker 1: to their game plan against James White, and that's was
57:05
Speaker 1: a unique wrinkle that I haven't had had time to
57:07
Speaker 1: study a whole lot because they have a time to
57:09
Speaker 1: watch the game again. But my senses that Jalen Ramsey
57:12
Speaker 1: had a bigger game then people would give him credit
57:15
Speaker 1: for because he didn't take away a guy one on one.
57:18
Speaker 1: But again, the presence of these guys is so huge.
57:23
Speaker 1: I should have gone Blake Bortles because I had a
57:26
Speaker 1: good feeling all week. Last week I told Ashton on
57:28
Speaker 1: his own Blitz, I thought he was gonna have a
57:30
Speaker 1: huge game, and I didn't think it's gonna be that big,
57:33
Speaker 1: but there was something about this guy when he bounces
57:35
Speaker 1: back that has become a thing. He was highly optimistic
57:39
Speaker 1: on Friday. They're gonna win, Blake's gonna play great. This
57:42
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great Sunday. Yeah, but I can't
57:45
Speaker 1: take a weak credit. I thought if I thought they
57:47
Speaker 1: were gonna win by the double digit, the the real chance.
57:50
Speaker 1: But I thought it was going to take interceptions. I
57:52
Speaker 1: thought it was gonna take turnovers. I think significant. I
57:55
Speaker 1: got an email to this, uh effect. Not everything went
58:00
Speaker 1: their way on Sunday. They had, you know, the Norwhell
58:03
Speaker 1: penalty in the first half, took away a field goal.
58:05
Speaker 1: They had turnovers that you felt like we're letting get
58:10
Speaker 1: back in the game, not everything went their way, and
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Speaker 1: they still never led by less than ten points after
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Speaker 1: the first quarter. I've covered a lot of these Patriots
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Speaker 1: teams games. It takes a really good team to control
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Speaker 1: them like that. Ten points wasn't enough in the a
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Speaker 1: f C title game in the fourth quarter, but eleven
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Speaker 1: was yesterday, and the Jaguars to it all on top
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Speaker 1: of the standings in the a f C South for
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Speaker 1: yet another week. Tennessee obviously got the narrow win. We'll
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Speaker 1: see them here this week. The Colts impressive and going
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Speaker 1: into Washington and holding them to only nine points, and
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Speaker 1: obviously Houston on the bad end of the year. The
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Speaker 1: Tennessee field goal at the end. The division just starting
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Speaker 1: to heat up. It does for the Jaguars. Sunday, the
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Speaker 1: Titans here for a one o'clock kick. All right, I
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Speaker 1: thought you guys were good today. You don't try to
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Speaker 1: be better on Wednesday. Okay, get it right? Sleep, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a little bit of that up late, working hardest working
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Speaker 1: man in the NFL is basking. That'll do it.