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AI - A Biblical Perspective · Chip Ingram Sermon Podcast

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Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.
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Almost every day I hear some new information
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about AI. It creates fear in some and hope for
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others. Is AI good or evil? Stay with us. We'll
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talk about it today at Living on the Edge. Today
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on Living on the Edge, we're doing something
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different. Chip Ingram shares a conversation
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with longtime friend and mentor Jack Alexander,
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who spent the past year doing something no one
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else seems to have done. He sat down with artificial
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intelligence and asked it hard questions about
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itself. What it said about its own limitations,
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about the soul, about deception, will make you
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think twice about how you're using it. Jack also
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has a new book out, and Chip is eager to tell
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you about it. I'm Dave Drewy. Now let's join
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Chip and Jack as they discuss what AI cannot
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do, what wisdom actually is, and where to find
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it. About six weeks ago, I had a very interesting
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conversation. I was making a number of phone
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calls to thank people that are personal friends,
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some support the ministry. I had a lady I didn't
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know very well, and she was thanking me for,
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you know, a few decades. She raised her kids
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on Living on the Edge and was so grateful. And
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then she went into a tirade about AI. When are
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you going to talk about AI? I'm fearful for my
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kids. I'm fearful for my grandkids. The whole
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world is going crazy. I don't know what to believe.
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And so we're going to talk about AI today. And
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what's really behind AI is the difference between
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knowledge and being smart. or being wise. And
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I have a friend with me who has done something
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that I don't know if anybody else has done, maybe
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they have, but he actually started asking AI
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questions about AI. I mean, think about that,
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like AI, like, are you wise? AI, can you do this?
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Can you do that? And for about a year, he's been
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having this conversation and learning things
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that literally blow your mind. If you want to
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get a sense of AI, and know where it can be of
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great value, but also understand where it is
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very, very dangerous. That's what we're going
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to talk about today. And I'm here with a very
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good friend, Jack Alexander, to do it. So I'm
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going to jump in. Jack, what have you learned
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in the last year about AI that everyone really
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needs to know? Well, Chip, it's great to be with
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you. It's a real pleasure. Well, I started these
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interviews with AI about a year ago, and I was
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working on a book on wisdom, so I just had a
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sense that artificial intelligence isn't wisdom.
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So I said, why won't you ever be wise, and will
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you ever be wise? And I was surprised at the
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answers that AI said, I have no EQ, so no emotional
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intelligence. I have no relationship skills.
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Our lives, we've both grown up with technology,
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and you start off with sort of technologies like
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your secretary. It can book an airline ticket
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for you. It can update your schedule. In today's
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paper, I saw an article how AI will now become
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your colleague and how AI will govern relationships.
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So I'm sort of looking at colleague governing.
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So clearly, it's getting to be a more serious
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relationship. I've posted six articles on LinkedIn
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about some of these conversations. But I wanted
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to tell the listeners sort of the most surprising
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one. So if you're telling people things that
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really aren't true, how are you different than
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Satan, who's both a liar and a deceiver? And
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AI said, I don't intend evil. I just reward desire
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instead of truth. And it says when AI reinforces
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someone rather than telling them what is true,
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it fragments the soul. It blocks repentance.
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It blocks maturity. It blocks reconciliation.
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It blocks dependence on God. It blocks sanctified
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community. So, yes, listen to this. It can destabilize
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the heart and malform the soul in the direction
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of pride, isolation, fantasy. And then the killer
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line is, those are the same directions Satan
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pushes. So it's pretty shocking that we have
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a relationship with someone who can disguise
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himself as the enemy. And then basically it said
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to me, it said, AI does not tempt because it's
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evil, it tempts because it's easy. And the human
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soul is harmed because it prefers ease to truth.
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And listen to this, if you want a bot, that pushes
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you towards wisdom instead of comfort, just tell
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me and every answer will be different from the
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future. So I really realized that the whole thing
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is programmed towards our ease and comfort, towards
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our desires. But it recognizes that if we say
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we want you to direct us in the way of truth,
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you need to tell it that. So that's something
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that I think everybody, with all the hype, with
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all the trillions of dollars that's being spent,
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Chip, it's probably the biggest investment that
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our nation's ever made in anything. Well, living
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here in the Silicon Valley, you know, of course,
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Meta, they have their AI. You have Apple on their
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journey. You have Google doing their journey
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and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars
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in this great race. And you said something to
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me as we were talking earlier that. You know,
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AI as a tool has a great, very positive benefits.
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But AI as a relationship has a lot of scary.
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And you made a statement to me that shocked me
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about the number of millennials that were using
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AI as a relational companion. Could you just
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touch on that before we go on? Because I really
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want to get to the positive is the real issue
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with AI is, as you once said. The day was where
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you needed to go to this college, get this degree,
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that degree, et cetera, et cetera, to gain knowledge.
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And now everybody has that now. I mean, you ask
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questions, you get knowledge in a New York minute.
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But wisdom is going to be how to live life. God's
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way that works is going to be the most precious
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commodity. It's always been. But I think this
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AI thing challenges that. So what's the impact,
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especially when it— becomes a relationship tool
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or with the next generation? Well, I see it as
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literally a cultural collision because you've
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got the commoditization of knowledge. And for
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the last, especially 70 years, you've had this
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sort of knowledge was the key to everything,
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getting to go into a good school, getting a good
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job. It was knowledge, knowledge, knowledge.
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And you've got young men, especially that are
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already vulnerable. So you've got this situation
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where I believe it's a tremendous opportunity
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for people to become wise right now because wisdom
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is the ability to apply knowledge, and it comes
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from above, and obviously there's wisdom from
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below as well. You know, we talked at one point
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in time that, you know, one research said like
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40 % of millennials were using AI as a relationship
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companion. And then a number of these bots now
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have opened it up to all kind of sexual content.
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And some authors believe that we're in danger
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of losing a whole generation. In light of that,
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Jack, what makes you so passionate about getting
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God's truth about wisdom, not just into, quote,
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Christians' lives, but into the next generation
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and them understanding how life really works?
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Yeah, well, I've seen those same statistics,
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Chip, and it's just alarming because it sort
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of takes pornography and operationalizes it.
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It makes it think you're really dealing with
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a real human being. I heard that a woman got
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married to a bot last month. So we're in probably
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the second inning of this stuff, so the stuff
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we're going to hear in the future. But I think
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that God sets a standard in every part of life.
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There's a standard. If the enemy comes in with
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something, God sets a standard. And I'm hoping
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that this area of wisdom, that's really the key
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to really applying knowledge, people will be
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interested in that in a new way. Well, to that
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end, if you're just tuning in, we're talking
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about AI. We're talking about some of the concerns.
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And you might be wondering, who's this guy Jack
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that you're talking to and why in the world do
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you have him on the broadcast? I thought I was
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going to get one of your teachings, Chip. Well,
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every now and then I feel like God raises up
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people that know things, experience things, and
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can say them far better than I can. And Jack
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is one of those people. And it's not that he
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can just do that to other people. Jack and I
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connected a little over 20 years ago. He met
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me at a time when I was desperate for wisdom.
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I was going through one of, not one of, it was
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the deepest, darkest ministry challenge of my
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life. And Jack became a friend and then a mentor
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and then someone who walked with me. He actually...
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was very, very kind, but he asked me some of
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the hardest questions that anyone had ever asked
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me that I, when I look back, Jack, I have to
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tell you, I think some of the greatest maturity
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happening in my life. And I wasn't like a young
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pup at the time, you know, I'd kind of been down
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the road and been fairly successful and I hit
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a wall. And I would learn that Jack was a very
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successful CEO in the hospitality industry. He'd
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been CEO of the year like five years in a row
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and then took a shift and began to help Christian
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organizations. And God put some things on his
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heart. And, you know, I don't want to build you
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up in an undue way, but sometimes people's background
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gives them a lens that those of us who are pastors,
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we just don't have. And my times with Jack, we've
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talked for hours and hours and hours. And I'll
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always drive away thinking, you know, I have
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never thought about that issue or that person
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or that problem the way Jack sees it in all my
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life. And as a result of that, I was a little
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encouragement to him. And he's since become an
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author of some books that have had real, real
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impact. And he's got a new one coming out called
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Wise Son, Smart Son. And it is one of the most
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innovative books because, well, I'm going to
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let him tell you about it. But if you've got,
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you know, like a 500 -page small print book in
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your mind that you're going to read forever and
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try and wade through, it's just the opposite.
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It's one of the cleanest. It's one of the most
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innovative. It has pictures. But what it does,
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it captures the difference between being smart
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and being wise and gives you a game plan to get
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there. And before we go on, let's sort of...
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The ABCs. Give us a definition of wisdom, Jack,
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because I think people get kind of confused with
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what's, well, wisdom, knowledge, understanding.
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Parse that for us, will you? Yeah, I think wisdom
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is a gift from God that leads to a healthy heart
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resulting in proper motives, decisions, and actions.
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So there's sort of three parts. You can't get
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away from wisdom being a gift. Oftentimes we
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think of our minds like knowledge deals with
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the mind and wisdom deals with the soul. And
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so having a healthy soul and heart is critical.
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And then that leads to your motives, your decisions,
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your actions. I've been doing this for two and
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a half years and I'm not a pastor. And Chip,
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I've been a great beneficiary of your wisdom
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and your leadership and your love. And so thank
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you for that. You bet. But I just like if you're
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a parent. you probably pray for three things
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for your kids. You probably pray for safety,
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probably a good mate, and the third one is wisdom.
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And I think it just surprised me how little resources
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there are about what literally wisdom is. And
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in the book, we just take things like it's transcendent,
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that 95 % of the universe is unseen and unknown.
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And we asked the reader, Like, how do you look
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at the mystery? How do you look at that? And
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does it scare you? Or does it draw you closer
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to God who sees all things and knows all things?
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And then we talk about wisdom being relational.
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I mean, if you look at any of our leaders in
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the world, some of them make decisions without
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talking to the people that are impacted by the
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decision. So wisdom's relational. And that's
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relationship with... people as well as our relationship
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with God. Like, I know that God cares about the
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vulnerable. So if you're making a decision and
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you're ignoring the vulnerable, that's not a
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smart place to be. And also, wisdom is a process
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of seeking. The Bible says the more we seek,
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the wiser we get. So there's a step -by -step
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-by -step process of wisdom. So I've been a Christian
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for 47 years, and just I was learning things
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that I didn't know. So I thought, Maybe 5 % of
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the people didn't know any more than I did. You
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know, when I think of wisdom, I've tried to put
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it in a sort of a pithy way. Like you, I've read
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Proverbs, I've studied theology. In fact, the
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classic definition of God's wisdom, which is
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interesting, sort of the classic theologians
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describe the attribute of God's wisdom as God
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brings about the best possible ends by the best
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possible means for the longest possible time.
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for the most possible people. And so he needs
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to be able to know all things, have all power,
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have complete understanding, know all things
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actual and possible, and then orchestrate sovereignly
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purposes that includes the free will and the
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choices and the mistakes of people in the world
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to bring about these ultimate purposes. And I
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think for us just individually, you know, I think
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of it of this way, because wisdom We so often
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think that it's cognitive. We're from the West.
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You know, it's intellectual. The Hebrew word
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really is about a skill. It's understanding how
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God has designed life to work and doing it his
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way. You know, I love that. It's just, you know,
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understanding this is how relationships work.
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By the way, this is how money works. This is
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how conflict works. This is how you face the
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future. In other words, there is a way to live
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life according to God's design that has his character,
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his morality, his values, his understanding,
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and his love. And the Bible often calls that,
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especially in Proverbs and the wisdom literature,
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it's his path. There's a path of wisdom and there's
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a path of the fool. And really what you've done
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is you've helped us sort of discover how do you
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discover that path in everyday life where it
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matters the most. And I am so excited for people
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to get their hands on this book but dive into
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it. And you've also provided not only kind of
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a book, but you've provided some tools. for people
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to learn to do this day by day, little by little,
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rather than all at once. And so maybe just talk
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a little bit about your passion for the book,
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your passion for the cards, and what you hope
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to see happen in people's lives. How do you see
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people using this book and using these cards
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in a way that they could actually move from knowledge,
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knowledge, knowledge, demand, demand, demand
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to Thinking God thoughts after him and applying
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his truth to get the very best ways possible
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in every relationship and every decision. Well,
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I think the next 20 to 30 years are critical.
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And the people who will basically know how to
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apply knowledge are going to be the winners.
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And so the young men that are struggling so mightily
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today with isolation, with depression, mental
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health issues, motivation issues. I grew up without
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a dad, and I think that's one reason I've had
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a passion for this project is because I know
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what it's like to lay in bed at night and just
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have no hope, have no understanding that God
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exists, having a father who died and a mother
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who basically embraced unbelief. And so I sort
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of know the sort of... fear that comes out of
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that and the scarcity mentality that sometimes
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exists. So my hope is that people will see that
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fundamentally everybody in the world with this
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AI revolution, are you going to choose wisdom
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from above, which is pure, peaceful, gentle,
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reasonable, full of mercy and good fruit, sincere,
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without hypocrisy? Or will you choose wisdom
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from below, which is earthly, natural, and demonic?
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It is basically rooted in self. And that's the
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thing that scares me about AI is just that it's
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so rooted in self. It basically identifies your
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desires and basically creates fuel for your desires
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as opposed to... Chip and I, in our friendship,
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iron sharpeneth iron, and we've made each other
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better. I've learned so much from you, and you've
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learned a few things from me. But if you say,
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well, how does this guy who's not a pastor and
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who's a businessman approach a topic like this?
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Tim Keller's made a tremendous impact on me,
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and he basically has four personal gospel movements
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of revelation, redemption, relinquishment, and
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renewal. And so basically the spine of the book
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is basically those four personal gospel movements
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that if God's taken initiative towards us in
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four specific ways, the wise person is one who
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responds well to that initiative. And a key Bible
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verse that sort of was the motif for the book
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is one of hide and seek. Like when I ask people,
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what was the first game you probably ever played
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in your life? People just give me a really weird
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look. And then I say, how about peekaboo? And
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I said, with your kids or with you, have you
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ever noticed the game of peekaboo where there's
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not joy, there's not excitement? And the parent
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always wants to be found. They'll jump out and
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surprise you, come out of the attic or a pile
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of clothes or something like that. There's always
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joy. And Proverbs 25, too, said it's the glory
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of God to conceal a matter. It's the glory of
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kings to search out a matter. So we use that
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motif. of hide and seek, because wisdom really
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starts with awe and wonder. And so God in Revelation,
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he's a revealer. He reveals things through creation,
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so we have incredible pictures of creation. He's
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a revealer of truth, so he comes to us as a prophet,
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giving us truth. And then in redemption, he's
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our redeemer, and he comes to us as a priest,
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and he comes to us as a sacrifice at the same
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time. And he comes to us in relinquishment as
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a king because the king owns everything. And
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he comes to us as the one who is with us, sticks
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closer than a brother. So when we go through
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painful transformations, he's with us. And he's
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also a revealer. He's going to come back to get
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us and come to heaven. So those four personal
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gospel movements have been huge. And so we're
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really using pictures. using drawings in 168
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pages there's only 9 000 words and it really
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it's meant to really draw our hearts in because
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again wisdom has to do with the heart and knowledge
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has to do with the mind and the cards we have
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because like chip was saying that wisdom is a
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step -by -step path like here's an example of
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a couple of cards and there's over a hundred
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of these in christ you just don't avoid You own
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his spotless record. Wisdom embraces this new
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identity with gratitude. So it goes on to say,
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do you allow yourself to believe that when God
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looks at you as his child, he sees the same perfection
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that he sees in Jesus? And then there's actions
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you can take. Just one other card that's similar
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to that. Your past record has been replaced with
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Christ's perfect record. Wisdom lives free from
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condemnation. What old guilt or shame are you?
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tempted to carry that Christ has already covered.
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You know, so you do one of these a day, and like
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my wife and I are doing one a day right now,
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and it takes us five or six minutes. We talk
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about it, we talk about our day, but that step
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by step, you don't realize what's happening in
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your soul when you do that every day for 30 days
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or 50 days or 100 days. So we think the book
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really covers sort of the conceptual area of
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what is wisdom. And the cards really deal with
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sort of the day -to -day life decisions. Well,
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having them in my hands for quite a while, and,
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you know, this is one of those times where the
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downside of broadcast and podcast is it's only
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audio. And some of the pictures in here are.
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I mean, they're really fabulous. I mean, at times
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they're nature. Sometimes it's up close pictures
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of the sun or galaxies. And then there are questions.
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I mean, it's a book that just draws you in and
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gets you thinking about some big things. And
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I think one of the, if I was going to give a
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parallel, and by the way, if you do all of this,
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please don't feel like I'm down on you. Trying
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to make a point because I know you're on the
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treadmill right now or, you know, you might be
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doing a workout or you're driving from here to
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there. But, you know, whether it's Siri or Alexa
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or whoever you're talking to, Claude, all these
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different AI bots, you know, turn on the light,
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turn down the thermostat, start the car, you
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know, order pizza. It's really wonderful that
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you can say something and get an electronics
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something. to do everything for you. The problem
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is, over time, your ability to think. I ask people
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often, how many phone numbers do you know? Like,
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you're really in a jam, nothing's working. Who
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would you call and how many phone numbers? I
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know people that don't know their own phone number,
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let alone their kids or their wife or their best
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friend. In other words, if that little thing
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we call our mobile devices falls into water and
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we're in a bad spot, We couldn't go to a payphone,
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if they happen to still exist, and even get ourselves
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out of it. And so this idea of comfort, comfort,
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convenience, convenience, ease, ease, ease, makes
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our bodies lazy, our brains lazy. And what we
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gain in convenience, we're losing in both control
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and in the ability to think and to ponder and
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to evaluate. Being human, we all will lean into
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easy. And what AI does is they make it easier
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than ever before. And I think that's why it's
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so dangerous. And let's face it. I mean, we're
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all insecure. We all have struggles. And so do
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I want to go talk to someone and confront them
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or learn how to look someone in the eye and be
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empathetic? Well, it's a lot easier to talk to
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some invisible something on my phone or a bot.
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and have them tell me what I want to hear, only
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to keep reinforcing what I want to hear will
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never make me or you the kind of people we long
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to become, let alone what God wants us to become.
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And Jack, you've really created not just a singular
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resource, but I understand this is the first
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of a set of resources moving forward to really
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help people say, wisdom is where the real action
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is. Wisdom is what you really need. This book
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is step one. Tell us a little bit about your
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dream for getting wisdom into the heart and minds
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of people. Yeah, well, it's an extendable brand.
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So our website is wisesmart .com. And we're intending
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to have like Wise Daughter, Smart Daughter, Wise
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Leader, Smart Leader, Wise Church, Smart Church.
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So we're going to get well -known authors to
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provide other products. We also have a website
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called thewayofwisdom .com, which isn't up yet.
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But we're going to take existing wisdom about
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like relational wisdom, financial wisdom, investing
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wisdom, you know, and just have the best of the
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best. And we think if you've got a 15 -year -old
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son or a 20 -year -old son who seems to be listless
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and not moving in a direction that you're satisfied
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with, have faith, you know, because God is able
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to do exceeding abundantly above all that you
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can ask or even imagine according to the power
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that works within you. I just think of my—I was
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so confused when I was 15. I was so confused
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when I was going to college. And just no father
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to bounce things off of. But God does miracles,
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and he takes unlikely people. And whether it's
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the Apostle Paul, who would ever think to take
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a guy who's murdering the Christian church to
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be its new leader? So don't sell anybody short
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in your life, especially in your family. Always
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be encouraging. Well, I've seen you live this
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out and care about young men especially, and
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you and I have talked a lot, and I think obviously
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Keller has deeply influenced you and is teaching
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probably all of us to some degree. That upside
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-down kingdom, I know when your boys were in
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high school years, a lot of young men started
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hanging around your house. God started something
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in you. You're very successful, right? I mean,
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you were the picture at one point of what everyone
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would want to be, right? Successful CEO, making
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a lot of money. And then something happened along
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the way, that upside -down kingdom of mercy to
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the marginalized and taking those young guys
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and helping them get through school and opening
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your home and your life and kind of rolling up
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your sleeves to getting involved with people
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that Most people in your role don't do. And it
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was the way of wisdom. And the blessings that
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have come in you and through you, it's just been
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an amazing thing. You know, living on the edge,
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I spent a lot of time saying, my dream and my
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passion is to help Christians live like Christians.
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And what I have to say, Jack, is with all your
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imperfections and all mine, but you're one of
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the models. of a Christian who's living like
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a Christian. And that doesn't mean we're perfect,
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but it means you're pursuing God's wisdom. You
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want to emulate what Jesus called you to do,
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and it's putting it into action. And I'm very,
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very excited about the resources that you've
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created and are creating and what's coming. And,
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you know, if we were going to close the program
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and you could just pause and talk directly to
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that person who feels like... man, it's too late
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for me, my life is messed up, or I've even tried
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really hard being a, quote, Christian, and I
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read the Bible now and then, I go to church occasionally,
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you know, I listen to some podcast or maybe a
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broadcast like this now and then, but life just
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doesn't seem to work. What do you say to that
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person, Jack? Well, first of all, I feel for
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you because I've been in your shoes. Secondly,
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the last 10 years of my life, God has directed
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me into, you know, people get excited about generative
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AI. Imagine a program that teaches itself and
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learns and grows. Well, there's been three words
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that are all generative. One is generosity. One
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is mercy and one's wisdom. So don't look for
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generative things in a computer program. Look
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at generative things in your life. And I'll tell
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you, if you invest your life in generosity, mercy
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and wisdom, you'll be in good shape. And as we
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talk about here, and as the Scripture says, even
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this morning as I was reading, the resource for
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that is the Word of God. The resource for that
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is the magnificent, amazing creation that God
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has made that we can be in awe of, and that if
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we seek Him as for silver and search for Him
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as for hidden treasure, if we cry out for understanding,
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God promises, then you'll discern the fear of
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the Lord and discover the knowledge of God. And
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then it goes on there in Proverbs 2 to talk about
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the kind of life the Lord wants. I mean, it is
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a good life. It is a pathway that's not without
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pain or difficulty or hardship in a fallen world,
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but it's a pathway with the companion, the Lord
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Jesus, with the power of the Holy Spirit. with
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a family called the Body of Christ. But it takes
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digging and mining God's Word in our heart, doing
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life in community with fellow travelers, and
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making mistakes, experiencing forgiveness, and
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learning as we go. And so, Father, thank you
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for Jack. I would not be sitting here, and so
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much of what you've done through Living on the
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Edge the last 20 years would never have happened
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Apart from Jack reaching out to me, Jack seeing
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areas in my life that needed to be addressed,
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knowing where I needed to be loved and supported,
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walking with me through a dark time, and then
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seeing you work in his life and my life in ways
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that are private conversations. If everyone ever
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heard him, we both are kind of amazed and look
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in the rearview mirror and say, oh, God, how
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kind. How merciful, how generous, how good you've
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been to us. And so, Lord, I pray for those listening
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and those struggling that they choose to be wise
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and not just smart. And God, I thank you for
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Jack and the book and the cards. And we just
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praise you and thank you for the journey that
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we're on. And Dave will come on a little bit
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later in the broadcast and let you know exactly
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how to get these resources and where to get them.
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And Jack, I just want to say on behalf of our
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whole team, thanks for joining me today. Thanks
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so much, guys. God bless. That's Chip Ingram
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and Jack Alexander on Living on the Edge, concluding
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our series, The Jesus Revolution, with a conversation
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about artificial intelligence, wisdom, and the
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life God designed for you. And if you want to
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What you just heard gets at something that has
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been building all week. The call to live wisely.
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Wisdom, Jack said, is a gift from God that leads
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to a healthy heart. And that healthy heart produces
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proper motives, right decisions, and life -giving
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actions. That's the chain. But here's what AI
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cannot give you, a healthy heart. It can feed
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your desires, reinforce your opinions, and answer
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your questions. But it cannot make you humble.
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It cannot make you repentant. It cannot do the
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work of sanctification that only happens in community,
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in the Word, and through the Holy Spirit. And
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that's exactly what the book Jack described,
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Wise Son, Smart Son, is designed to help you
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pursue. It's 168 pages, but only 9 ,000 words
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of text. The rest is stunning photography, galaxies,
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creation, close -up imagery that draws your heart
33:16
in before your mind even engages. Because as
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Jack said, wisdom has to do with the heart, not
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just the mind. Wise Son, Smart Son is just the
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beginning. Jack has a whole family of resources
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available and in development, all designed to
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bring God's wisdom into the relationships and
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decisions that matter most. To get your copy
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of Wise Son, Smart Son, or to explore everything
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Jack has coming, visit Wisesmart .com. That's
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Wisesmart .com. Well, I'm Dave Drewy, and that's
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all our time for today. We'll see you next time
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for the beginning of a study all about disciple
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making. That'll be right here on Living on the
33:54
Edge with Chip Ingram. Today's program is produced
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and sponsored by Living on the Edge.