Latest / In Tune Podcast / 7. Dr. Yina Cuevas - Chiropractic, birth and babies
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- Dr. Nick Harvey: Welcome to the In Tune Podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Nick Harvey a chiropractor from Australia. This podcast is focused on getting deep with chiropractors globally and understanding their journey, their why, and what shaped them to be the chiropractors they are today. So come with me as we interview some great people within our profession so we can push chiropractic forwards. My guest today is a family chiropractor with a special interest in seeing kids. She's taught chiropractors in multiple countries in both English and Spanish, and she works at the team at Mana Chiropractic in St. Petersburg, Florida. Dr. Gina Cubis, welcome to Intune. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Thank you. so happy to be here, Nick. Thank you. Dr. Nick Harvey: So good to have you on, Gina. like we start with most guests, I'd really love to start with the beginning of your journey into chiropractic, Gina. so where where did your journey start? When did you know you wanted to become a chiropractor? And how did that look for you? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. to give you the the long story short, it was actually not my story, it was through my mom. I grew up playing volleyball since I was 10 years old. And I was always in the sport life. And it wasn't until around 13, 14 years ago my mom got diagnosed with formalgia. I was finishing my high school and Around that time you're also asking the question, so what am I gonna do for the rest of my life? And I went to shadow different professions before I thought I was gonna be a dentist. For whatever reason, it was like in t like I don't know. It just felt like the environment, like people were happy coming out of there. but then l seeing my mom's journey, and I already knew I was going into the science, anatomy world. My mom went through the pharmaalgia journey, which is okay, you have this tag now that before it came with a bunch of other tags too, right? Because it came with multiple, we don't know, we don't know, we didn't know that this is what you have. and I saw my mom trying everything in the Wessel Western medicine approach, to the point that when I was in chiropractic not in chiropractic school, when I was already in college, really focused on my volleybare career, but still was able to travel and see my mom ever every weekend. I remember like it was yesterday, the moment that I felt my mom like my mom was not my mom anymore. She it was the middle of the night, she's taking her painkiller, she's taking her sleeping pill, she's taking all the things that the doctors are telling her to do. And she is Pretty much like a zombie walking towards the room to go to bed. that really hit me and really put me curious on, okay, so is this it? Like is this what my mom is gonna be heading into? and I mean my mom is was pretty young. Like she was still like love like she loved her job. And she was already like moving away from it. And at that point, my mom was the one that decided to take a different turn. and she started to seek for other holistic approaches, just like alternative medicine as a whole. And she one of the fortunates was chiropractic. and that was really interesting for me, because I've never heard about it. I don't know anything about it. Reminder, I'm in college. I am just living my life, focusing volleyball, sports, sports. And I really didn't know how to help my mom. And when my mom started taking starting care, she started to reduce the painkiller medications. And that really sparked my curiosity. I'm like, okay, what what is this? So I went to Shadow with chiropractor and it's so funny because I don't remember much about what he said, but I do remember that he reminded me. Your body's supposed to be healing. But you know, there's something that happens when the interference there's interference in the body, and then the body just cannot function us. It's Maximal c capacity, maximal potential. And I remember being like, huh, that just makes so much sense. And I put it on my front head. I'm like, boom, I'm gonna be a chiropractor. Not understanding how this is helping my mom, not understanding enough, even to be excited enough to do it for myself. I went back to college and finished my four years of volleyball career, and then I said, Okay, I'm being saying I wanna wanna be a chiropractor and I still don't get adjusted. I still don't really know what that means. It just makes sense in one moment. And I started seeing a chiropractor before I went to chiropractic school around six months before. And that's when I took the the leap of faith. I I say it. Because at this point my mom has been getting, yeah, better, but fibromyalgia is such a big It's such a big diagnosis. And there's just so many things involved that it was not just chiropractic. Chiropractic was her first introduction to, whoa, there's a different way. Wow, I can stop going into this direction that if it hasn't been giving me any answers, I'd be definitely going downhill in the wrong direction. And thanks to that chiropractor, my mom started then shifting her day-to-day, like even going into the basics, nutrition. but me in chiropractic school learning and being like pretty much getting exposed to all this different world of holistic health, started learning about nutrition, started going home and saying, Mommy, we need to take care of we need to clean all the pantries. and that's where my mom started to then heal her gut, decrease inflammation, and I say that chiropractic like I always make fun of this because everybody says this. They call you, right? Carapractic calls you. and whenever I go back to my stories, like, yeah, I saw my mom starting and starting to see some changes in her body, but she wasn't fully healed to say, like, okay, like that changed everything. But that calling of wow, it's so simple and Inside of me there was something that said this is just what it is. And when I got to chiropractic school, I got to realize how well chiropractic is not just about the chiropractic service. There's just so much more deep deeper than that. Like you need to be a better human to be able to take care of someone in their own healing journey. and that unraveled so much more for me. And I feel that that created who I am today, who I keep seeking for. but my mom was the big pillar. And right now, I mean, she's been it's been what like 13 years, right? So it's 2003 around 13 that she got diagnosed and right now she's exercising, which is literally the biggest medicine for fibromyalgia. But tell someone that lives with 247 paint, you need to move to feel better. It's heck no, we won't do that. It's really hard, mentally challenging. And I got to see my mom peeling the layers. Peeling the layers, bringing other holistic approaches and chiropractic was chiropractic was the first step. Dr. Nick Harvey: Wow, that is a really powerful journey. Really powerful. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm-hmm. Dr. Nick Harvey: And I really do believe we're all called to this as well. And there there is a a way we're brought into this profession. And that must have been really challenging you for you to see, but also a really powerful story on the other side of that too, which is amazing. From there, you got into chiropractic school. What what was that like, the beginning of chiropractic school? Yina Cuevas Quintana: It was a challenging transition. I never thought I was gonna leave Puerto Rico. That's where I'm from. And I mean I I knew English, but it's not this. And I every now and then, like you'll hear me. I still like say different things. and my English wasn't super great and I didn't know anyone in Georgia. That's someone to like you. And It was challenging knowing, yeah, I'm gonna go by myself to do this thing that I also don't know much about, but like it feels right. I feel like this that was my first step into following my intuition, like following that gut feeling of like this is what you should do, even though it's scary as F. so chiropractic was a lot of that. Was a lot of getting myself in spaces that were scary. and allow me to like break. Bunch of barriers for me. So the basic first one was going to school and listening to the teachers with multiple accents. And I'm like, I don't get what you're saying. And I at this point, like after a year being in, like, I started living with A girl from Arkansas and I remember like recently we sh we met and we reconnected and she shared me like I remember when you were translating things like from school from English to Spanish so you can learn it and then be able to do the exams and not fail f fail. So this is just so interesting how since the beginning the language barrier was one. the community there there was a really group big group of Puerto Ricans and like you. but we do have our culture and we do like to party. And I remember that was another part for me of saying, okay, like I've done this life already. Like I know what it is to have fun, to be with all the friends, to feel comfortable. And I said to myself, I'm like, well, if you want to create a different reality, then we need to change what we're doing right now. So I stopped hanging out with a lot of what could have been like my closest friends because of my culture. So I started hanging out with every other all all the all the other Americans that did not speak my same language. I was like, okay, let me just get out there. and I remember going to clubs and doing all these things by myself, but it wasn't by myself because I got to connect with beautiful people that were also on that journey of hell yeah, I'm gonna be better and I'm gonna challenge myself. And that's how I am where I am right now with this team too, you know, like thanks to that, thanks to getting out of my cocoon, and my shyness to allow me to to teach, allow me to become who I am. So chiropractic school had a lot of turns, but everything was on stepping into that uncomfort zone constantly, every single day. And I'm grateful I step into that. Taught me a lot. Dr. Nick Harvey: Yeah, I think that is a very powerful message is to get uncomfortable and step into more uncomfort because that's where the growth really lives. Who were your early mentors, especially through early years of chiropractic, that you really looked up to, you were you aspired to be like and that were really paving the way for you? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. my first ever club was MLS. Actually, I started on my Conference zone. MLS had this Spanish club they call Saberosos. and I'm like, cool, there's cool people, they all speak Spanish, and they're training chiropractic. That for me as an athlete, it just makes sense training for your profession that is pretty physical. And I started really early. So my first quarter, I was already getting involved with the training of chiropractic. So MLS was my first connection to that. Then I found something a little more challenging and that was KTC. KTC brought me into okay, let's wake up freaking early. And also now you need to figure it out what they're saying in English too and train. so that was my Also focused. So I was training MLS. That's where I started doing some seminars with them. So Arnor Banier for sure was one of my first entry into the work that I do. and then KTC, my first ever seminar was with Dr. Dr. Jordan Bonham. Love him to death. He's Freaking is a nerd, but at the same time with so much wisdom. And I'm like, I just met my person right here in chiropractic school. I I can't, I'm I'm so inspired to be s to get there. Like that's where I was like, that's my new baseline. And then Dr. Kayleigh Raymer, from Canada, freaking love her. She was so tiny and she was exploding pelvis on that seminar. And I'm like, whatever she did to be good, I need to do that. So those were my two most inspiring people at the beginning because of my first seminar. And within chiropractic school, I got exposed to multiple clubs and multiple seminars. I was the student that was everywhere. I did a bunch of different a bunch of different seminars, and repeated a bunch of them as well. And enlarged my own would say my my knowledge into it, but I would say deeper into the the mentorship, I Brett Jones was a big one too. Kay Jones was a big one too. And actually Katina. So Katina actually inspired me to go a little bit outside my box. A little bit deeper outside my box. I remember learning more the subtle work in chiropractic. I remember when I saw someone doing network, someone doing BDI, and I'm like, what the heck is this? Why are people floating on the table? Pretty much. And that was really new for me. Like coming from, okay, I think chiropractic is bones, then that's it. That really opened my eyes into the energetical work world of what this work can do. And Katina, I remember I asked her, I'm like, so how can I how can I learn all this? And she said, It's all within you. It's all within you. Just get out of your head and you're gonna feel it. And that shifted my whole focus. Like I was not even just training anymore to move a bone. I was not training to get a pop. I was training to feel deeper, to feel that energy, to feel that shift in the table. And Tina is not one that I always go back to whenever. things move in different flows, or I need a little more guidance. as well. And that led me into the DAO with Dr. Eric and multiple others. But like I can keep going. Like I've done different shifts into the osseo to the energy work. And I'm so grateful that I did, you know, I didn't want it to just stay on a little box or just do one technique. I'm like, how can I get a a f an expansion of knowledge of all of them and then from there become me. Dr. Nick Harvey: Wow, you had a lot of amazing mentors. That's that's incredible. And you know how grateful and how fortunate you were to be able to learn from such great people. I really love that part of the the deepening into the network and the energy work and then that's all within you. How did you find that you've brought that into practice now and and really for people listening along, how can they start to deepen into feeling more of what's happening on the table? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah, I that that was a big reminder for me to realize too, that it's not just what you wanted to feel on the other person. It was realizing that I not I needed to start to feel within myself and start to recognize what's my own energy, what what are the thoughts running through my mind, what does that make my body feel, and just understand my opinion. my own my own chemistry, right? To be able to meet people where where they at. so there was a lot of self-growth, self-development. I went from not ever thinking about my breath being something important to becoming super freak about it and going in at night. in the middle of class like not in the middle of class, but like at the end of the day, after a long day of classes, just like going for a breath recession for myself. It's just like getting to feel my own chemistry, you know, get to feel how I am capable of shifting things inside of me. make help me start to feel that vibration. because it'll it is all vibration, right? Like the the tone that you're feeling on people, the pain tone, the the depressed tone The high vibration, the love vibration, it's all an energetical tone that when you start to familiarize familiarize that within your body, then it's easier to access that on others. And breath work was a big entry for me for that. breath work led me into feeling comfortable with meditating. Meditating led me into listening to my thoughts and having a sit-down with them and to start to change the story that I thought it was true, that I thought it was who I am, right? And I dove into Joe Despesa and I went deep into that. And when I started learning from him about like how to change your personality, you know, you need to like change who that person. person thinks about itself. that helped me realize how much inner work was happening for me. Whenever I was, I remember the first time I felt that gate in that or that subtle vibration that was like that sucked in. And I'm like, God. I I've I've felt this before. And it feels so calm. It feels so grounding. and One actually from Network, one of my biggest mentors, he's also in Puerto Rico. His name is Dr. José Salgado. he's the biggest network doctor in Puerto Rico. And I got to see him and chat with him multiple times in his practice because I was so curious how this work could be integrated to civilization, right? Because for us current practice, it's like, sure, I'll do whatever you tell me to do. Yeah, I'll follow that. I can feel it because there's just they're just so much more in tune with their bodies. But for me to see like the 70-year-old grandpa, like getting like loving it, was pretty exciting. And I got to get that hands-on with him and like feel more what what that felt like. But definitely shadowing the mentors, like getting exposed to that energetical grid that is possible. And also it's not gonna be given to you, right? It has to be Something that you can feel in yourself to start to feel comfortable because at that point when you're feeling at that depth, then things can merge, right? Things can come up. And this can happen with a light touch, like it can happen with a deeper osseous adjustment, right? Emotions can come up when you're in that vibration of energy. And to be able to hold that space is a whole different conversation. It's not just to get there, it's what do you do when you're there, right? in that process of feeling within healing and continue to heal because this is not a stop journey. So whenever I'm with my students, it's like, hey, like I'm here and we're doing this, but there's still some more work to do because that's what it's all about, right? It's never that end destination. so I would say those those have been my my little links of getting there and and being able to facilitate that. Dr. Nick Harvey: Hey guys, I just wanted to quickly let you know I'm going to be running two-day adjusting seminars across Australia and New Zealand at the end of 2026 and into 2027. They're going to be two days of going deep into what I believe are the fundamental principles of adjusting: holding a high intention, getting deep with your presence, adjusting from positions of ease, and most of all, expressing the art at its highest form. If you're interested, there's a link below in the show notes, or you can go to www. inflowartistry.com.au. All right, back into it. That's really beautiful. And on that journey, the the osseous and the tonal work, the tonal may not be familiar, especially if we've got some students and and early grads listening to this podcast that don't understand tonal or like you said, just think it looks crazy or what what's happening within the body. How among your journey have you started to merge the the osseous and the tonal work? How do they converge and how do they work together in practice now for you? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. It's it's almost like an introduction and an integration. when also the way that my practice is we are an open space, we do see multiple people around the same time. the adjustments that we deliver are unique to the point that you can blow people out and get baked. freaking cracks. And if you don't notice that moment where there's an emotion coming up, you just missed it. Right? So the training to it allow me to bring it into practice in a way that I can introduce myself to the system with subtle touches in a way that maybe another Car Factor or any other other other bodywork has never done before. Like being able to touch and say, hey, I'm here. And we're gonna do this together. I even communicate this with my people. It's like, hey, I won't tell you to wiggle your toes. Cause most of the people, right, that have been to other chiropractors are a little bit more quick and let's go. There's like a level of distraction around to get the pop, get the impulse, distract them away from their bodies. I go in the opposite way and I remind them, hey, I'm here to help you find yourself and help. You connect with yourself. For for that, I don't want you to be out there. I don't want you to be where you're gonna need to go next. I want you to be with me. So I want you to feel where my hands are going. And I want you to breathe in them. And I want you to feel, is it easy to breathe? Is it a little harder or sticky? Do you feel that you need to move to be able to get breathe breath into that area? And that's why you're bringing their awareness to an area that might be disconnected, that might be. a little MIA because of either pain compensation, call it what it is. and to be able to communicate first in a simple way that is not out there. It's like, sure, like I can talk about innate intelligence, but people don't know what that means. Or they just don't know they're they they think that you're here just for the crack. And if you cannot bridge through the communication s with simplicity, Then it can be hard to implement it. But I found that it's it was actually so easy when you just lay the cards on the table, say, hey, touch, feel my hands, follow my hands, breathe into certain areas, and let's just feel what your body has to say. And that actually allowed me to not need to talk much on the table and not need to ask about the pain or ask what's going on today. Cause I was able to find it with them. And they're like, okay, how do you know that that's been not okay? And I'm like, well, your body is communicating, you know, it's a vessel. It's is we are exchanging. And within that, after an adjustment, depending on the adjustment, depending on how long I've been in care with them, sometimes those adjustments spark things up. And to be able to know, to see, to see first. What is coming up? What's the expression? And then to be able to guide them to where are they not breathing, where are they holding that stress? Where is things getting a little bit constricted? And just meet them there. And this doesn't take too much time. It takes too much time if you're thinking about it. But when you're in flow state, you can actually just witness and be able to allow the person, yes, either to breathe or Actually, I'm gonna help you a little bit. I'm gonna push you a little bit. And that's how I've been able to implement it in the practice. even with my crazy practice, I see from like the two weeks old to it could be your 78-year-old grandpa. so I do have a pretty wide range, which it can seem like a little crazy. but it actually all works out. I feel that the the being able to train this, to repeat this, to feel familiar with it, creates the finesse of it. Dr. Nick Harvey: Couldn't agree more. And I feel really what needs to happen, I feel there needs to be an evolution in your care. And sometimes that evolution for people is coming in with a tonal approach and and letting them gain deeper awareness to their body. And sometimes that's the osseous adjustment, sometimes it's more tonal. And I feel with the more tonal approaches, they really need they need more awareness of the body. And without that awareness and without that energy presence, sometimes the the osseous adjustment can be that most beautiful thing to bring them right back in. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm-hmm. Dr. Nick Harvey: Do you think coming into this more tonal work is why you're so passionate about seeing pregnant mums and and babies? Or has that just always been a calling for you? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Really now. that never thought my mind that I was gonna be taking care of this community. however, on my internship I got to experience a practice that saw a lot of bam mamas and babies. So it really wasn't until I was about to graduate that I was like, there's something in here. And the energetical work actually helped me to because I was Like feeling into the system. I started to feel a little bit deeper than just the mama. And I'm like, interesting, there's just like something else right in there. but really what called my attention was to see how early you can start to help humans, you know, overall just feel more in their bodies because kids are so in touch and I started doing little work with them at that practice and it was just so cool to be able to actually see the more I would say the more obvious with the little ones. and that actually started everything, but I started diving a lot more into pre the prenatal world, the postpartum world, honestly also for myself too. So I'm not a mom yet and I know I'm gonna I want to be a mom in the future. And I was like, sure, like, is there like a way to learn deeper on how to take care of this community? I will love that. And I got certified as a Burfit leader. So that's when I went into Dr. Lindsay's program and freaking love her. And what she has to offer is just so much beyond just how to take care of parapractically, you know, on a prenate on that journey on that prenatal and postpartum. But that started to open up myself into the speeding babies community. And that's where when I was already here, I got to meet the doolas, meet the meatwives, meet all this other again, I didn't grow up in a holistic viewpoint. Everything was like Western medicine, pain like pain medication for that pain. You got a baby, you go to the hospital. So I started diving into the history. And started to become more curious about all this home births and what does that mean? And and what do you mean that you give birth on your home? Just like the simplicity that now it feels normal for me, but it was a big I would say like reality shatter for me. I'm like, what are you talking about? and yeah, and and that really sparked my come like my conversation at the practice with this community. And brought the kiddos and the kiddos was a after being taken care of so many mamas and babies. And I started diving deeper a little bit into neural development. And that actually opened up a c a connection with a developmental specialist here in the area, which open up to what I see now more on my practice with the little ones. I see the healthy babies, but I do have a lot more kiddos with environmental challenges and birth injuries and all that through this connection. And the reason she keeps sending to me is because she was like, wait a minute, there's something more that you're doing because I've been working with these kiddos and doing the therapies and all this stuff and there's prog there's more progress than I was seeing before. So It was awesome because I could stay on my work and what I love and adjusting and doing what it looks simple, playing with your baby, moving them around, wiggle them, whatever everybody was telling me that I was doing with them. But the kiddos was act were actually getting so much better in their development, in their focus, and that really continued my expansion into getting more deeper into this community. so yeah, it's been it was guided same way how I got to chiropractory school. It wasn't really a spark. It was just like this is just where you need to go. Dr. Nick Harvey: It's really beautiful. And it sounds like it's it's your calling and your journey of what you're learning for you. And I think that's what we really do as healers is, you know, like your mum created that experience for you to step into chiropractic. We have these experiences in our life that ultimately shape the chiropractor we become to help the people we know. I know I was the exact same way when we had the birth of our young boy. I just became so interested and passionate for kids and You know, God brought me Dr. Tony Ebel in in PX stocks and his fantastic stuff. shout out Tony, he's he's so good. Yina Cuevas Quintana: It's awesome. Dr. Nick Harvey: but I think that's that's our calling and that's ultimately how we get pulled to become the type of healer we are and and who we ultimately help. I want to circle back, Gina. I know you've been involved in the birth process even with Dr. Dylan and and Christine. and you're obviously in that field at the moment too and kinda want to pivot off a bit into what you've seen birth like, what you in your words think birth is really about for women, and also what you think a lot of society is maybe not getting right. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Birth from a witness, not an experiencer of it yet. it's it's a it's an invitation to get to know yourself more. I've witnessed through pre like practice members, through the pregnancy journey how much they start to learn about their own self just because they have to. get the time for themselves. You know, like we're in this world in society where we're always in the go, go, go. We always have responsibilities. And when you get to this third trimester and you got no energy on your tank and you start to move into this nesting state, there's just so many drop-ins. And the only way, and I'm not comparison at all, but like the flow state and the download state of it, it reminds me to when I Accidentally injure my knee on my second year of practice that I couldn't practice for two months. And that also being in my peak in my practice, like I'm freaking exploding. And for me to not be able to show up and sit still and be at my home and not be able to show up to practice the next day. What are you doing? You have people to see. Like you're a chiropractor. Why are you injured? What's like this? All these things that at that point was just my opportunity to sit still and how uncomfortable it is. And I get to see that with so many women when they need to start to slow down, either because their bodies start to talk, or they just don't have the energy and the effort to get things done the same way that they're used to. And That process leading into the birth where the birth you have no control, absolutely no control. The control that you have, it's all the trust that you have built within yourself, you know? The know the knowing that we are built to this. So it goes back into bringing the trust to this human spiritual thing that we have. And I feel it's just so. Powerful. It's so humanly raw. the first birth that I experienced, which I've only experienced two, and that both were Christine. I'm like, first, why do you want me to be your doula? I got no idea what I'm doing. I don't know. I'm not a mom. I'm I don't know. I've never been through this. And she's like, you know enough and you know me. And it's true, you know, like a doula, it's less about what to do. You're just supporting. Mom and you're not really like sure, I'll tell you the second story later. But the first thing that you're doing, your priority is to make sure that mama feels safe, that dud feels safe too. and to create like to co-create that environment for the body to go into that resting state and then turn on to bring baby into this world. And wow, birth is Wild. It's so animalistic, I like to say, because there's just so much sound, vibration, emotion come into it. And I haven't gone through it. So that that just I I I almost I can't wait, but at the same time, like it looks so scary. But it's so beautiful, you know? There's just this. Realization when I I remember when I was guiding Christine through that through that contraction with Mako first with the first baby. She started pushing too early. Midwife was like, We need to help her slow down. And I'm like, What do you mean? But I almost like know what she meant. And I'm like, Okay, Christine, I know you cannot sleep through these contractions, but you're just gonna follow me. And For those who don't know, like I suffer from of really bad cramps, like abdominal period cramps, and they're freaking terrible. And I have a way to move through that. And there's a wave and there's some breath and some sounds. And I intuitively just guide her through this way that I got myself the cramps. And she actually started to slow down. And I was surprised. I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing, but there's just this. Knowing as a woman as well, and feeling her as a woman, and it like being able to guide her through something that was not the same, but but it at the same time we could like see each other, and to be able to hold her hand was so special to the point that we had that baby home. It was a beautiful birth. I didn't even lose an hour of sleep, which was also crazy. and then on the second one. Completely different, so different. I was like, I got this, I know how this goes. Yeah, well, whenever you think that you know how things go, well, prepare yourself, because we're God, the universe is ready to give you a whole new experience. And this one was so fast that I I remember watching her and she saying, The baby's coming. And I'm like, let me see. And I'm like, I remember that sound. I think baby's coming. May Wyme is not there yet. And Jilline calls the May Wyme how far you are. 30 minutes and the baby's coming. And I'm already on my knees. And and to see and feel so strong at that point, like we had nothing on the floor. Like there is there was no safety. Like it was like, Gina, you better cut this baby. And I remember not having any fear, not having any doubt, not thinking about the million things that can happen on a birth, and knowing that I was just gonna catch that baby. And it really changed everything for me to be able to catch a baby from one of my best friends that trusts me enough, you know, to hold that space and to be able to feel that. First breath, be there with them. And it really reminded me how how gentle it can be, but also how vulnerable our lives are here. How we can sometimes like move in this world with so much fear of what can happen to us, but like in a little blow of a leaf, like things can literally disappear or your reality can disappear. And there's just so much potential to what we can create and what we can continue to create when we're not here. But right now the focus is this, right? How can we make the most of it, knowing that we just have a little bit of time around this earth. And it just remind me, you know, to go all in. To go all in into whatever feels scary again, you know? It almost reminded me going back to car back to school. It's like this is scary as fuck, but let's fucking go. And after such a hard year, it l I laughed when she came in. It really reminded me of like, okay, are you ready to also step yourself up again and do the word that you're here to do and show up the way that you want to continue showing up? so yeah, birth is. It's beyond physical. It's beyond energetical. It's just so much more spiritual that for whoever witnesses, for whoever experiences, it has it has its unique lessons. It has its unique gifts. So I cannot put it in a box. There's just no one way to describe this. Dr. Nick Harvey: couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. And and me as a witness now, same as you to two births. Yina Cuevas Quintana: I'm sorry. Dr. Nick Harvey: and someone that will never experience it for myself. It has so much Yina Cuevas Quintana: You never know. Dr. Nick Harvey: so much teaching and so many lessons. And you're, you know, what it requires of you each time is always going to be so different. But from experience I feel the medicine is always what you need. But both as the experiencer and and as the witness, you know, what you're called to be there. And I I know I can only speak from from our two births, but they were exactly what we needed in those times and both extremely uniquely different. I'm sure I'll I'll talk to about them on this podcast one day. But just beautiful healing experiences. If you let them be and if you and if you look at the lessons within them too. So thank you. Thank you for sharing that. How is the Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. Yeah. And I think like a a little adding to that and I this is question for you though. Like don't you feel that if you don't have the opportunity to like learn it, like feel that lesson at that moment, it will come up later. Dr. Nick Harvey: for sure. For sure. It yeah, sometimes we don't see the lessons in the moment. Sometimes it's a day later or a month later or a year later. The Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm-hmm. Dr. Nick Harvey: the bigger the lesson, sometimes the harder it is to see that it's actually a lesson. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm-hmm. Dr. Nick Harvey: And the longer it takes to integrate in, but also too the more powerful I feel it is on your life. because we've we had a a really really tough birth and then we had a you know, I want to say easy birth. That's very easy for me to say, but Yina Cuevas Quintana: Minister Peace. Dr. Nick Harvey: but a bit easier. and there was both beautiful, unique lessons. But in the tough birth, it just brought some things out of us that needed to come out that we needed to be strong Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. Dr. Nick Harvey: and come together. And you know, my beautiful beautiful fiance, Dr. Eden Carvasso, just was amazing in that process. So To see her strength during that two, we we wouldn't have been able to witness that if we had of got the the birth we wanted. Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm. Right, Dr. Nick Harvey: So Yina Cuevas Quintana: if it's easy, right. It wouldn't be as impactful sometimes. I see that in midday. Yeah. Dr. Nick Harvey: Exactly. Yeah. if you're a chiropractic student or a chiropractor and you're curious about how you might be able to improve your adjusting, I've created a free quiz on inflow artistry all about going deep into what I believe are the five most fundamental foundations of adjusting. It's completely free. It'll take you about 10 minutes to fill out, and it'll give you a detailed report of where you're doing well and where you might be able to improve. If you're interested, the link will be below in the show notes, or you can go to inflowartistry.com. dot-ayy-you slash quiz. I want to transition back, Dr. Gina, to practice for you. Obviously being at the beautiful team at Mana, working alongside a lot of fantastic chiropractors and now being out and being a chiropractor for a few years. How has that been for you and and what have the lessons been in in your early years of practice? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mmm. Well, I have a book. I can write a book about all the lessons. I I think like my first one would be you need to make sure that you're enjoying what you're practicing. Man, like that really I mean it's it's the reason I still love where I'm at. and it doesn't mean it's gonna be perfect. Like perfection doesn't exist anywhere. I've seen this through colleagues that start one thing and then they go to another thing and they thought that it was gonna be better, and then you move to the other thing, and and you're you're like looking for yourself, right? You're you're learning to find what's for you. And besides it not necessarily being perfect, it should feel good. inside of you when you're serving. Because when you're serving, it's not just a just thing, right? Like you're taking care of people and guiding them through a journey that is gonna take effort, right? And if you're in an environment where you're not feeling supported, you're not feeling strong on your foundation, because technically the practice is like, hey, your grounds. Then from there is where you go up or go or don't go anywhere. and I'm really grateful that I choose to to look a little bit more uncomfortable again because that's just what I freaking do. And and allow myself to work hard at the beginning and feel the flowers for like coming out now. being five years in practice. Right now it's been this last two ish years, I've been just enjoying my practice that I worked so hard my first two years to build. three and a half because of my leg. My leg definitely interrupted some things, which it was a big lesson, right? but I remember moving towards that injury on my second year of practice, feeling so I mean at this point I've been also teaching artistry, teaching how to be an athletic artistry and going through an injury like this was really tough. And but but it showed me so much. And it showed me so much of what I've created. I feel that one of the things that I keep coming back to it's yes, I know how to get things done. I know how to work hard. I know how to get people in the table. Now, can I also look back and watch all the people that are still with me and all the impact that I've been able to do because of that effort? I feel that sometimes we can get a little Area with like the next number, the next goal for I would even say more than a year. I have stopped seeing how much I'm making in collections because it was almost like a little competition. I'm like, okay, like what we're gonna do next month. we hit this, let's do the other one. How much we're gonna do? So it becomes a business, right? Which is important. We need to know how your numbers are moving. And also. I feel like one of my biggest lessons when I have my knee injury, when I stop, I still went to the practice because that's just who I am and just sat down there and say hi to my people. But I got to feel so much love. You know, I got to feel so much of that appreciation and realizing holy shit, all these people actually love me too. it's not just me giving to them. Like I got an opportunity to receive. in a different way that was not monetarily. It was purely just like healing, keep healing, girl, you got this. I'll wait for you when you come back. And I got to start people like that too, where I they just met me with my broken knee. And I had this great team that took care of them. And then I was able to come back and take care of this person that has never felt my hands before and then stayed as my practice member. It's it's such an interesting thing. Every year it passes, there's something new to learn. And just like in business, there's this flow that if you're doing the things right, like it will never be like this. It's not supposed to be a straight line. Like that's why even financial life doesn't work like that. There needs to be stabilization to be able to go to that next level. And I saw that in my practice. I saw how, yeah, there's some months that I'm fucking exploding. But there were some months that I needed to stabilize. So I brought that same philosophy to my life after that injury where cool, I exploded last year. Next year, let's take care of ourselves. Let's do more trips. Let's take more time off. Let's make more fun events instead of going screening every weekend. And it's been cool because practice really teaches you a lot of yourself too. You know, the business reflects so much about your own life that it surprised me, but it didn't. You know, it's like even in the hardest moment, I could feel more support from my people. And I think that's when you're creating your practice with first the clients that you want to see, the clients that you feel in alignment with. that you're giving care how you want to give care, right? You're not in this box of put heat ice and stems and then give wompoff. You know, like there's you there's just you need to find your way. You need to find your your technique, your approach, and your language. And when you find those three, then you can start to realize how your practice will start to grow and then you grow with it. And I think that's just something really special. That we get to create as chiropractors. And it's also one of the reasons I became one when I came in into that practice. And I felt that love and I felt that just good environment of being in a doctor's office. I love because so because I see so many kids, they come to the practice now, most of them, and they call it Dr. Gina's house. It's it's hilarious. I love it. I'm like, sure, this is my house. We got the couch, we got the art. It does not look black and white and to hear the little ones enjoying the care, enjoying the space, giggling around the tables. It's it's a dream, you know? It's a dream. I'm really, really lucky. Dr. Nick Harvey: That's beautiful. That's a beautiful story. And I think you said something really interesting around there gets to a point where you just don't want to look at the numbers and the collections and you need to grow beyond that and think about the impact. And I think there's an interesting synchronicity between that and when you start to become a chiropractor and start building your foundations of adjusting. I think it's at some point. You know, we we need a strong foundation. We need to learn the techniques and the line of drive and how to palpate. And you need those simple skills to be able to start. And similar to in in business, we need to be putting food on the table. You need to be making money. Otherwise, you can't show up for work. But there reaches a point in both your chiropractic journey and in business to and where that will actually hold you back and and to evolve past then. You need to stop focusing on that and instead focus on something deeper, like the impacts, like how many lives can I change, et cetera. Just before we finish Yina Cuevas Quintana: Mm-hmm. Dr. Nick Harvey: up for today, Gina, I'd like to touch base on if you've got anything coming up that that people can visit you, any seminars, and where can people find more about you online? Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah, well I'm actually coming fully back. for I took a little year of a break this last year from teaching and I just keep getting text messages. So we're gonna go out there again. my first exposure is gonna be in Atlas Wild, actually. it's gonna be the last weekend of February, so I'll be giving around like a two hour Just little intro into taking care of little ones. and that's gonna run then into my first, I call it play shop because we're gonna play a lot. It's gonna be be space in between with focus on little ones and then prenatal and postpartum care. So we're gonna talk about adjusting mamas in different position. I am Western Service and I also do other stuff. So we're gonna dive into how to use pillows intelligently to just create a different way to approach this community and then what I do for postpartum, what I recommend. We're gonna do a little woofman session too. And then how do I work with babies? But less of the technique. I'm excited to teach the way to create the environments to help. mama and dad feel safe, you know, as a woman that doesn't have a kid, I remember my first baby being, how do I hold this baby? And having those interactions where I really n didn't know how to even start, how to even start to palpate a spine of a newborn. I'm like, I don't know how to even carry this thing. so I'm excited to go into that and the little things that I teach my parents as well on how to continue to support them home because That's such a mess sometimes where when parents are coming to you and kidos are having already some issues, they're looking for help and they want to help. So giving them also something to be able to support their own baby is so empowering. so we're gonna be diving that. That's gonna be my first one, it's gonna be in Puerto Rico because I need to go there. I need to go to my island, so it might be probably in Spanish, who knows? Depending on who shoes shows up, but that's gonna be on the end of March. pretty sure it's that at twenty-seven, twenty-eight. And I'm talking already with other venues, other people that are reaching out, possibly Atlanta, and other little play shops coming up, and hopefully internationally too. Brazil, Mexico, so that we got a few things coming up. and To not forget the recent one that is happening this year, I am gonna go teach for Dylan in Poland and Barcelona, which I am so excited about. and honored to be able to teach back again with Dr. Dylan, because I just respect him so much and I'm so excited for what he's been creating. and we're getting out there again. So yeah, that's a few things that are coming up to connect with me, follow me on. Instagram, I think that's the easiest way. DR Guevos, super flexible and easy to get access with me. Dr. Nick Harvey: Beautiful. Thank you so much. And hope you come over to Australia with Yina Cuevas Quintana: Yeah. Dr. Nick Harvey: with Dr. Dylan sometime soon as well. That would be fantastic. I'm su I know we'd all Yina Cuevas Quintana: Just say it once. Just say it once. Dr. Nick Harvey: well, Dr. Gina, thank you so much for your time today and all your wisdom. And I'm sure we'll be talking again in the future. And potentially too when you've had your own experience in a birth journey. And I'm sure we can dive deep into that too. Yina Cuevas Quintana: can't wait for sure. Thank you so much for having me. and I'll see you soon for sure. Dr. Nick Harvey: Thanks, Gina. Thank you for listening to the Intune podcast. If you made it this far, I appreciate you being here. And if you enjoyed this episode, I would really appreciate if you could leave us a five-star review and share this with a friend. We'll see you next time.