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Patriots/Seahawks in Super Bowl & Belichick Not a First Ballot Hall of Famer · Height Differential

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  Me, this is the height differential that's the 66 nil.
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  I'm the 4:10 that we are back. I said Nick this week, make sure
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  Follow us on social media. You can see all the shorts been
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  stuck stuck inside all week because the we didn't get the
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  big snow that everybody was talking about, but still enough.
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  Yeah, once again, you know the the meteorologist get it wrong
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  as they usually do. Think they get you all hyped up.
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  They think, you know, they, they get you all hyped up.
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  They, they make you think that, that the, the city's going to
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  shut down. So everybody has to go to the
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  grocery and get their milk and eggs and bread and form a line
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  that's about two miles long just to check out all to come home
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  for nothing. You think that you think like
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  the the Kroger's and the Walmart's of the world are like
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  in cahoots with the with the weather people.
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  Well, I just, I don't understand why everybody needs milk and
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  bread so bad. Why do they?
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  Why are those the tanks? I don't know why.
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  Why can we not survive without milk in it?
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  And because you get like, because because a loaf of bread
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  and a gallon of milk will last you several days, you know it's
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  not something that's going to. Go Oh well, frozen vegetables
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  that you can already have in your freezer.
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  And yeah, but what if you? Lose power?
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  What if you lose power? Well, you're going to lose your
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  milk too there, Neil. No, you can sit the milk
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  outside. You can just sit the milk
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  outside in the snow. So you can't put your frozen
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  vegetables outside in the snow. How are you going to cook them?
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  You're going to eat frozen vegetables.
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  Make a fire. You make a poop now we're we're
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  Cavemen, huh? We're going to chop down a tree.
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  We're going to go chop down a tree and just start a fire in
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  the backyard and roast a bag of vegetables.
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  Come on bro. I can't tell you the last time I
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  bought a gallon of milk. Obviously you buy bread, but I
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  if I don't have bread for a week I can survive.
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  On your frozen vegetables. You're not going to cook on your
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  frozen raw vegetables. I know for a fact I am not
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  messing with the crowds and standing in those lines as we
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  wait for the snowstorm that would we would we end up getting
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  officially 6 inches. I think it was a little less
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  than that. They did that.
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  They did that competition for charity and I think the lowest
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  prediction was like 12 inches. Yeah, no, they they all got it
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  wrong again. It's, I don't know, they get
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  paid to be wrong, that's what it is.
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  There's no repercussions. It's just like we talked about,
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  we talked earlier in the year, we talked about that referee in
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  Russia getting canned because he did his job wrong.
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  We said should there be more implications on screwing up
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  being an official? Should there be more
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  implications for meteorologist? 100% absolutely.
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  You keep getting this stuff wrong.
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  You should get fired. I get it, it's hard.
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  I would have no idea how to do it.
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  But they studied it like let's, let's do better than like not
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  one person was close to 6 inches.
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  No, not one person. And who knows if we even got 6.
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  I haven't got out and measured it.
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  But it's, it's, it's not that much.
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  I do know one thing. It's not going away because it's
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  it's too Dang cold outside. It is cold.
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  It is cold. I mean, yeah.
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  I mean, we're back to work tomorrow.
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  How you going to get to work? We'll get in that car and go.
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  So you could have left your house if you wanted to.
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  Yeah, for sure. You just chose not to.
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  Yeah, there's no reason to. I do not even own Do you even
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  own a snow shovel? I mean, I'm not going to use it,
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  I will. Just I know you're not going to
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  use it. I'm also what I'm asking.
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  I know you're not getting out there shoveling.
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  I know. Just drive back and forth with
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  my car, create tire tracks. I mean, that's what I do
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  normally. I did shovel this morning.
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  My car is sitting in the garage so as long as.
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  You can get your car in and out as long as you can get your car
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  in and out of the garage and you can just enter in and out of
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  that door to the from the garage of the house, there's not really
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  not a reason to shovel your driveway.
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  We good, we good. But you don't, you don't own a
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  snow shovel, do you? No, no, no.
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  I knew it. I knew it, the kids.
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  In the neighborhood I missed them on my ring Cam, but I I
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  they would have done it. I don't know what they're
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  charging but I missed them on the ring Cam.
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  Oh you can't. They come door to door.
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  They they ring the doorbell and ask to.
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  Do they do? What do you think that what
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  would be the going rate right there?
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  50 bucks, 100 bucks, 50 bucks. You throw in an extra 50 if they
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  do your. Do you have a sidewalk?
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  I do not. All right, so throw in an extra
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  50 if they do your steps in your in your porch.
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  Yeah, but we definitely wasn't the Snowmageddon that everybody
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  said it was going to be 1994. What, even close?
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  No, I mean, I'm at the the Cards game on Saturday and everybody's
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  freaking out at the men's game. Hey, when, when, when do I need
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  to leave? I need to leave.
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  It's coming down. It's coming down.
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  I mean, no, no, wasn't that big deal.
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  It was a bigger deal in the second-half in Denver on on
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  Sunday. Yeah.
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  I mean the amount that I mean that came down quick.
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  Quick well in well, it's just like the first half, it was
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  completely clear, like midway through the third quarter, still
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  clear. And then by the six minute mark
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  of the third quarter, it's completely cut.
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  Yeah. And not a lot of offense to be
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  had. I think it was too big to be
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  expected in that game, even without the snow, right?
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  With those two defenses, with those two offenses, you, you
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  didn't expect there to be a ton of points.
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  Denver has a chance to go up 10. Nothing early they pass, they go
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  for it on 4th and one don't get it and they don't score again
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  the rest of the game. If you go up 10 O in that game
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  where points are that hard to come by, you're you're feeling
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  pretty damn good. And I, I think Peyton is, is
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  definitely regretting not not putting getting those three
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  there. Yeah.
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  Do you like, was there snow in the forecast?
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  Like, did they know the snow was going to come in the
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  second-half? I would assume that you would
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  know that there's a very good chance that there's going to be
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  some. Stuff I'm thinking if you're.
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  See how tough it is to predict snow accumulation.
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  I mean, it's correct. I mean, if some if, if, if there
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  was, if they knew ahead of time that that this was a possibility
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  that that the second-half could get a little dicey with the
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  weather and then I don't understand why you don't kick.
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  I would have kicked. So that's what maybe Sean Payton
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  didn't expect. Maybe he didn't expect this
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  weather to come in like it did. I mean, what this the snow plays
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  a bigger role, but even without the snow, with those two
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  defenses, if I've got a chance to get some points.
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  Yeah, when you're. Quarterback I'm taking.
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  Yeah, no, I I agree. And especially the play call.
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  He threw the ball on 4th and 1:00 instead of time.
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  Yeah, I think you take the points, you go up to 10, you
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  have all the momentum, you're at home, you're up two scorers with
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  one of the league's best defenses that the that the
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  Broncos have. And you got a quarterback that,
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  you know, he played pretty well in those.
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  I mean, the opening drive was a disaster, but he came back on
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  that second drive through a couple of nice Dimes, through a
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  deep ball that looked pretty good threw that touchdown pass.
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  It was on the money. And, you know, he actually
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  looked like a competent quarterback that, you know,
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  maybe the Broncos have something here.
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  They moved the ball. And then like I said, they moved
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  the ball. And that's that's that third
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  drive where they ended up not kicking the field goal.
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  But at some point you you thought that was going to run
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  out. So I think you just take the
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  points, try to get as many points as you can and and not
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  roll the dice with Jared Stidham.
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  Well ran out. I don't think they had a bigger
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  play than 12 yards the rest of the way.
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  Yeah. And I mean, it's not like the
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  the Patriots were lighting up the scoreboard.
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  I mean, they were handed a touchdown.
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  They were, yeah. The only touchdown, the only
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  touchdown they got was because Jared Stidham lost his mind and
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  two hands shovel past it backwards.
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  And I still don't really understand what that play was.
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  I don't know like what the call was any any of it.
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  I mean, just throw the ball away, my guy.
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  Did he clearly throw? Was he clearly throwing it
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  backwards? And he was trying to throw it
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  forwards. No, he was trying to throw it
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  forwards, which there was nobody over there.
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  So it was going to be an intentional grounding anyway.
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  And you would take that over a fumble 6 but.
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  You're just trying to get out of that.
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  Yeah, he was trying to get rid of it, but his momentum was
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  going so far backwards that what he thought was a forward pass
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  ended up actually going backwards.
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  Oh. And then and then they blow it
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  dead. So even though they picked it up
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  and took it to the house, it doesn't count.
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  So then they they've got to score offensively and Jake may
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  ends up scrambling and getting in the end zone.
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  But the the rest of the way, these are offense did anything
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  and then the snow starts coming down and then yards even or more
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  difficult to come by. And the Patriots in the fourth
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  quarter, we're just like we're just going to run it three times
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  in a row and give you the ball back.
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  If they weren't even if we get a first down, we get a first down.
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  One more trying to eat the clock and they just knew that that
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  Denver wasn't going to be able to move the football and and
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  score. No.
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  And then when Denver had a chance to kick the tying field
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  goal, it's almost like they were complacent, which is trying to
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  kick that field goal. They're like, we're just going
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  to try to, we're just going to kick it instead of trying to
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  move the ball closer. They just kind of just ran some
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  vanilla plays and like, all right, let's try this.
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  I mean, what, how long was it? Do you remember how long that
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  kick? Was 4546 yards.
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  Yeah, which in though that's no, that's that's asking a lot.
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  That's asking a lot of your kicker.
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  Well, what so? Yeah, but it looked like the
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  kick was online. He just got tipped.
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  The there was one that got tipped.
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  There was one another one he actually just missed.
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  Yes. But it just you, you go back to
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  Venetarium making that kick in the snow at the beginning of
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  Brady's tenure with the Patriots in it.
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  You just it makes you realize how good of a kicker he was,
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  like being able to stand those elements.
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  But. Oh yeah.
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  I don't know, like we knew that this was not going to be very
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  many points scored and I think the the over under was close to
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  40, which was easy, easy, easy under.
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  Like I got hot this week. I actually hit some, hit some,
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  got hot, but yeah, you just, if you get a chance to get points
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  in a game like that, I feel like you got to take them.
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  And they just changed the whole perplex, the whole, you know,
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  notion of that whole game and they're not going for it.
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  Really in any game, if you're up 7 O and you get a stop on 4th
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  and one and now you've got the momentum on your side, that kind
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  of completely changes the complexity of the game.
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  Yeah, no, I mean it, it comes down to 2 plays.
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  It comes down to that not kicking, and then it just comes
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  down to that fumble, whatever shovel pass.
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  I mean, he doesn't just do that. If he just throws the ball away
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  like normal, the Broncos probably will still win that
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  game. Well, if you just, yeah, you
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  just go down. You just go down anything and
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  punch. Anything what you did?
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  Yeah, I mean 'cause. Then and obviously the miss, the
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  Miss Phil Goat attempts, they had chances to tie the game and
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  they didn't do it. But it's brought in a lot of
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  talk about the fact that the elements really played a huge
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  role in that game. And it did they.
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  Did so It's been discussed just like the Super Bowl where it's
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  played in controlled elements, mostly domes.
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  Should the AFC and AFC championships be played in more
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  controlled environments? So the snow and all that is not
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  playing such a big role in who goes to the Super Bowl.
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  You can make a case for it and you know, I wouldn't be mad at
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  you if if that was the decision of let's play this thing at a
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  neutral site in a Dome so we get the best brain to football made.
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  So you it's it's truly the best team wins and you're not relying
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  on the where, where the rain and the snow and all that comes into
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  play and it's a 10/7 game. Because honestly, I'm not sure
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  that that that the Patriots were the better team.
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  I don't think they were the. Best.
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  I still don't think either team was very good.
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  They're not, but I don't think that the Patriots were a were a
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  better team. I think if the conditions were
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  fine, I don't know what we would see.
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  But but then so I mean you would get a pure brain of football of,
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  you know, offense and defense, who's better.
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  The best team would probably win in that situation if you were
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  indoors and away from the snow and stuff.
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  But then you're just taking away that home field advantage that
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  the number one season, the number 2 seeds have earned.
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  So you think you learned what? No, I'm going to on record, I'm
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  going to say I'm not for it. I'm not for it.
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  Well, this is this is on record. Yeah, no, you could make, you
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  could make the case. No, like you could make the
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  case, like I said, to play it in a neutral side indoors and I'd
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  be fine with it. But on record, no, I like having
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  the home field advantage. If you're the number one seed,
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  you've earned that like that's part of what comes along with
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  having such a great season. You get to play in your own
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  building, and if your own building is outside, then so be
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  it. You know, I mean, snow games
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  aren't that common. I don't mean when's the last
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  time you saw a snow game in the AFC Championship?
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  It's. Been a while I don't know off
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  the top of my head out of. The freezer ball.
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  It's been a while. The Bengals beating the Chargers
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  in the freezer ball in the early 80s and.
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  Then the the the tuck rule game, that wasn't a that was a
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  divisional game, I believe, wasn't it?
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  Yeah. So I mean, it's been, it's been
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  a while, but they're not common. They're not common enough to
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  where I think you need to go away from from getting rid of
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  home field advantage to play indoors.
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  So I I think you keep it #1 seeds have earned it.
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  Let them play in their own buildings.
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  You were the one that wanted to talk about it, so I I thought
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  maybe you you would be in favor of moving it.
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  But. No, I mean, I can see why people
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  would want that, but I no, well, they've earned it.
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  But plus, like you like these, these snow games are going away,
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  all these all the new stadiums being built, Buffalo's going to
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  have a Dome, Tennessee's going to have a Dome, Kansas City's
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  going to have a Dome. Chicago when they get their new
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  stadium is going to be indoors. I mean, all these cities want to
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  host Super Bowls and you're not going to host the Super Bowl
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  unless you have a Dome stadium. So any new stadium so it by in
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  10-15 years, it's going to be very rare unless you're in
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  Southern Miami or if you're in. Because they're not getting a
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  new. Stadium.
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  No, it's, it's we'll put a bubble up before we build a new
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  stadium. Unless you're Miami or
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  Cincinnati or somewhere down South where the the weather is
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  warm, you're building a Dome. So all these stadium like
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  Minnesota, I mean, the everything is just going to be a
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  Dome. So in in 15 years you don't even
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  have to worry about it. But I mean, to me, absolutely
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  not, no. Like you played the whole season
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  to get the top seed you deserve to have home field advantage in
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  the AFC or NFC Championship. And for everybody who's like
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  this is unwatchable. I don't want to watch a 10/7
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  game in the snow. To me, you get 3431 games all
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  the time in the regular season. If I've got a 10/7 game in the
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  snow, you think that's not going to make me want to watch snow
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  get? I'm absolutely like, I was going
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  to watch anyways, but there's something intriguing about these
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  weather element games when you're playing on Madden.
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  Like when they first started having the elements on Madden,
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  you weren't going in and putting the snow just to play on it.
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  Like playing. Outside when there was snow on
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  the ground, playing football in the snow, like I don't like, why
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  would we want to get away from that just because we had a 10/7
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  game when we had two teams that was probably going to be 10 to 7
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  anyways because neither offense is very good.
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  No, I love snow games. I I prefer snow games in the
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  regular season when you know it a a championship is not on the
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  line because I do want to see, I want to see good football in a
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  championship game. And that was bad football.
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  It was almost unwatchable football.
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  It was 3 and outs, 3 and outs, 3 and outs.
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  It was boring football because the elements had something to do
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  with it. So.
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  It would be better if it was Tom Brady versus Peyton Manning in
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  the snow because I think they'd actually put up points.
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  I mean, I think that the how bad the offensive offenses are in
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  general played a large role. Like defensive football games,
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  it's bad football. It's not fun.
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  So it goes like this goes to baseball a lot of times too.
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  Like would you rather watch like a six to five game or A1 to
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  nothing game in baseball? A1 to nothing game in baseball
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  doesn't mean that it's bad baseball though.
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  Well, that's the same thing for football.
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  No, that means it's bad for. Them why do they not?
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  Why do the Why does it not apply to football if it applies to
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  baseball? Because that's bad football.
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  You're talking about two of the best defenses in the league.
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  That's why they are where they are.
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  They eat. They eat in the AFC Championship
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  because they're offenses and or Jared Stidham is not why the
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  Broncos were in the were in the AFC Championship.
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  Drake May played a role, was an MVP, he's an MVP candidate.
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  But for the most part, it's their defenses.
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  But got them there and you got to see their defenses perform in
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  the AFC championship game. Like what?
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  Did you expect this to just turn?
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  Into a good 35. Game.
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  No, I don't want that. I'm I'm saying you could have a
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  good defensive performance in the game.
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  B 2117 or 20 to 7 like A1 score game where we at least.
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  Receive. Performance at least.
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  I mean, that's still pretty good.
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  I mean, you give up to any point that's not, I mean, still that's
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  a better football game than what we watched.
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  Like, you can have a good defense and defense plays a
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  role, but give me a little bit of offense here.
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  That's an opinion though, that's not a fact.
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  There's got to be some people that enjoy defensive football
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  just like you enjoy 1 nothing baseball games.
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  Most people are nerds. But most people aren't going to
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  agree with you and I who are baseball enthusiasts.
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  No, I'm not most. People are going to like watch
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  an 11 to 9 game more than A1 to nothing game in baseball.
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  I don't want either. I want like, I want like a nice
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  five to four-game, a six to five game.
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  I don't want an 11 to 10 game or or one nothing game.
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  Give me a little bit of offense and give me some good pitching.
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  So you're. Just in the middle.
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  Both. I'm in the, I'm in the middle.
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  That's what makes a good game is you get balance on both sides.
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  But. We're fair and balanced.
• 18:58
  Football games where it's it's 49 to 42, you don't want to see
• 19:01
  that. Those are fun though if it's
• 19:03
  back and forth. Exactly.
• 19:05
  A lot of fun. Exactly.
• 19:07
  But no, I want somebody to get a stop at some point.
• 19:10
  Well, if they don't, the game's ever going to end.
• 19:14
  Oh, give me, give me that Nice. Give me that middle ground.
• 19:17
  I'm in the middle. I'm a middle ground kind of guy.
• 19:18
  I'm a fair and. Balanced as we like take take a
• 19:21
  side that's a that's a cop out. Take a side, all right?
• 19:25
  What side are you taking? You want 1 nothing games, 10
• 19:29
  seven games or you want the shootouts?
• 19:32
  I appreciate both you can appreciate.
• 19:36
  The side Nick, Pick a side, pick a side.
• 19:38
  Middle ground, but there's nothing wrong with the 6:50 AFC
• 19:42
  championship game between two really good defenses.
• 19:45
  It was a snooze fest. They were great defenses.
• 19:49
  It was bad offense more than it was going to be Defense.
• 19:52
  No, it was a 16 to 10. It would have been 16 to 10
• 19:58
  maybe if it wasn't for the snow. No, you they'd be thin.
• 20:01
  But the elements were not. Were a play to row, but it
• 20:03
  wasn't the biggest part. They would throw the pit.
• 20:06
  Drake may would have more than how many passing yards You have
• 20:08
  60 something passing yards over here, 86 passing yards.
• 20:11
  Well, they they didn't even try to throw it.
• 20:13
  Exactly because of the snow. Well, they had the whole almost
• 20:17
  3/4 of football before there was snow, so.
• 20:24
  Oh, it was a snooze fest. It was born.
• 20:27
  It was probably one of the worst conference championship games
• 20:31
  I've ever seen. Or maybe of all time.
• 20:33
  Which is because the teams aren't that good.
• 20:37
  Don't disagree. Because of the snow.
• 20:40
  But but they did you see their records though you say they're
• 20:45
  not good and they're 14 and 3. Patriots are 14.
• 20:49
  And three, I know they're both 14 and 3.
• 20:52
  I know. And the Patriots in the Super
• 20:54
  Bowl and I still don't think they're that good.
• 20:57
  Their defenses are good, puts them in position.
• 20:59
  I give the Patriots all kinds of credit.
• 21:01
  They went out and spent a ton of money in free agency, fixed
• 21:03
  their defense, put them in this position.
• 21:06
  I give them credit. They got an up and coming
• 21:08
  quarterback need. Whoever won that game is going
• 21:11
  to get beat by the NFC. I mean, they lost.
• 21:15
  The Patriots lost to the worst team in football this year, and
• 21:18
  they're in the Super Bowl. In the first game of the season.
• 21:20
  Yeah, I know it's the first game of the season, but they still
• 21:22
  lost to the worst team in football at home.
• 21:25
  You're allowed to, yeah, losing to that Raiders team.
• 21:28
  That's just I was going to say you're allowed.
• 21:31
  You're allowed to have a slip public that if you lose.
• 21:34
  If you should get disqualified from the Super Bowl If you lose
• 21:37
  to the worst team in football. Brutal.
• 21:40
  So I guess you enjoyed the other game a little more?
• 21:43
  Oh, didn't everybody? Yes, that game was amazing.
• 21:47
  Yes, that was the Super Bowl. Like, if that was the Super
• 21:50
  Bowl, it'd be talked about for for a long time.
• 21:53
  That was a great game. I guess probably you would agree
• 21:57
  with this. Probably.
• 21:59
  That game featured the two best teams in the league.
• 22:02
  Yeah. I mean, they were at the top of
• 22:04
  our power rankings on this show week in and week out.
• 22:08
  I was a Seahawks guy. You were a Rams guy, you know,
• 22:11
  We had him at the top 2 almost all the way through.
• 22:14
  I agree with that. Yeah, I agree.
• 22:16
  So I mean, it was a it was a great game.
• 22:20
  And if that was the suit, if that was the Super Bowl, if the
• 22:23
  Rams were in the NFC or if the Rams were, sorry, if the Rams
• 22:26
  were in the AFC and that was the Super Bowl, like I said, it
• 22:29
  would be talked about for a long time about how good of a game
• 22:31
  that was. But unfortunately, one of those
• 22:34
  teams had to lose you. You had texted me during the
• 22:39
  game you didn't agree with some of Mcveigh's strategies.
• 22:43
  We'll see. It's been it's been a couple
• 22:45
  days. I did not and that is true.
• 22:47
  Let me go back here. Well, you had talked about going
• 22:51
  for two and. Yes, yes.
• 22:56
  So you're down, they're down four.
• 22:58
  They scored the touchdown was in the somewhere in the third
• 23:01
  quarter. We go back to when they had
• 23:04
  scored these touchdowns gamecast.
• 23:09
  So yeah, they're down to, they're down four.
• 23:12
  They cut it to 2420 with 941 in the third.
• 23:17
  I understand maybe it's a little too early on that one to go for
• 23:20
  two to try to cut it to 1 score, that's fine.
• 23:23
  But then you give up the touchdown again to the Seahawks.
• 23:25
  Now you're down 3120 and then you get down to that 2 minute
• 23:29
  mark in the third quarter and you get down 4 again.
• 23:32
  That to me is the time. All right, we're getting into
• 23:35
  the fourth quarter. I want to be down three points
• 23:38
  going in. I wouldn't be down a field goal
• 23:39
  going in that last quarter. And he didn't.
• 23:41
  He kicked the extra points again.
• 23:44
  Yeah, and really, what is the difference?
• 23:47
  But if you don't get it between being down 5 and 4.
• 23:50
  Nothing 0. Eventually there's.
• 23:54
  A whole difference if you go and score.
• 23:56
  The only difference is if you go and score the touchdown, then in
• 23:59
  the extra point you're up 3 instead of 2.
• 24:02
  But you would probably still go for two in that situation to try
• 24:04
  to make. Regardless if you're down 5 or 4
• 24:07
  at that moment, if you get a touchdown, you're taking a lead.
• 24:12
  I, I agree with you on the on the second one, I'm going to go
• 24:17
  for two. I'm going to try to get it to
• 24:18
  three. They don't do that.
• 24:20
  They're down four, they get it inside the 15.
• 24:24
  They end up having to go on 4th down and really don't, don't
• 24:29
  even get close to scoring. And if you go for two there, you
• 24:33
  can kick, kick a field goal and tie it.
• 24:36
  Obviously they didn't have that wasn't an option at that point.
• 24:40
  Are you, are you, you're going there though, right?
• 24:42
  You you're not going to kick to cut it to 1.
• 24:45
  No, you're going. You're going.
• 24:47
  Because that was late in the fourth, wasn't it?
• 24:50
  Yeah. Yeah, you're going.
• 24:54
  No, I but yeah, I think the second one to to get it to 3:00.
• 24:58
  So at least take a chance the being down 5 being down 4 is not
• 25:02
  that big a difference. But you're right.
• 25:07
  I mean was a just a great game. The the muff punt Seattle
• 25:11
  pounces on it scores almost right away.
• 25:14
  And then the Rams, and they answered every single time they
• 25:17
  got down and the taunting penalty played a role in them
• 25:21
  allowing to to respond. That was that was almost game
• 25:25
  over. If he doesn't get that taunting
• 25:26
  penalty, you got the ball back up, 11 chance to go down and
• 25:30
  make it a three score game. That taunting penalty that would
• 25:34
  have haunted him for a long time if they would have lost that
• 25:36
  game. And what?
• 25:40
  And then immediately they went to puka down the sideline.
• 25:45
  What? Unlike the next play.
• 25:47
  Which which? Which driver are you talking
• 25:49
  about? The one in the game.
• 25:50
  After the taunting the the 34 yard touchdown.
• 25:53
  Right. Yeah, first it was, First play
• 25:54
  after that wasn't. It and that was the Was that the
• 25:56
  last points of the game? Because they went deep.
• 25:59
  Yes, that was the last. That wasn't so.
• 26:00
  It was it wasn't super late. It was still in the third
• 26:03
  quarter when they scored the last points of the game.
• 26:05
  Yeah, there was the the both teams got shut out in the
• 26:07
  fourth. So but they had the the the
• 26:11
  drive where they went forward on 4th down.
• 26:13
  I mean that was a 14 play, 84 yard drive that took up 7 1/2
• 26:16
  minutes. So it took up more than half the
• 26:17
  quarter. And by the time that they went
• 26:20
  for it, I mean there was 4 minutes and 54 seconds on the
• 26:23
  clock. Yeah.
• 26:24
  So you had to go for it. But then, you know, you gave up
• 26:28
  a couple first downs to the Seahawks after that.
• 26:33
  Like, your defense had a chance to get the ball back, just get a
• 26:35
  three and out. You would add plenty of time.
• 26:37
  But you give up 11 plays and they took 5 minutes off the
• 26:40
  clock. Yeah.
• 26:41
  So I mean, your defense had a chance and they just couldn't
• 26:44
  get the stop when they needed it.
• 26:46
  But we had talked about Donald, what he did last year as the one
• 26:51
  seed with the Vikings. Give this dude some credit, man.
• 26:53
  The first quarterback ever in back-to-back seasons with two
• 26:57
  different teams to win 14 games. And I mean, he throws for 350
• 27:03
  yards, 3 touchdowns and no picks.
• 27:06
  Stafford 370 yards, 2 touchdowns or three touchdowns and no
• 27:10
  picks. And the Rams do end up getting
• 27:13
  the ball back with no timeouts left with 30 seconds.
• 27:17
  We got to go the length of the football field and they get like
• 27:22
  a 30 yard pass on 1st down to get them down to what about the
• 27:26
  3035 and then they they kill it, stop the clock and then they hit
• 27:33
  puka towards the sideline. Looks like they're going to have
• 27:36
  a chance to throw it to the end zone from about a little bit
• 27:39
  across midfield and he's ruled down in bounds and the which.
• 27:45
  He was. He was the right.
• 27:48
  Call and the game's over. I wanted to see that throw to
• 27:53
  the end zone. I did too, but then there was a
• 27:56
  play in that game that you had mentioned that you still can't
• 27:58
  figure out why that was a catch. Oh, the Cooper Cup across the
• 28:02
  middle. Cooper Cup.
• 28:04
  Cooper Cup, yeah. I, I have no, I don't know what
• 28:06
  a catch is. I don't know what a catch.
• 28:09
  Is I? I don't think he made a foot
• 28:11
  like he caught it took maybe a half a step.
• 28:15
  Was the foot even down yet before he hits the ground and
• 28:18
  the ball popped out? I mean, Dez Bryant would like a
• 28:21
  word with the league on why that's a catch and his back in
• 28:24
  the game against Green Bay in the playoffs, what, 10-15 years
• 28:27
  ago wasn't a catch? I mean, was it?
• 28:30
  Just me or was I the only one thinking it wasn't a catch?
• 28:33
  I didn't feel like anybody talked about it.
• 28:37
  Terry McCauley didn't have anything to say on that one,
• 28:39
  Jane. Where was Jane?
• 28:40
  Nobody was saying anything and. Where was Jane when you need
• 28:43
  them like? I don't know, like he definitely
• 28:47
  didn't land and the ball came out of his hands before he
• 28:50
  finished. Yeah, you're supposed to survive
• 28:53
  the ground. And that, to me, I don't think
• 28:55
  he took enough, 8 enough steps to make it look like it was a
• 28:58
  catch and run because it wasn't. He was hit almost immediately.
• 29:01
  He lunged forward trying to get that first down and the ball
• 29:05
  popped out. I mean, to me it was all one
• 29:08
  motion. Was it?
• 29:09
  To me it looked like it was all catch, turn, lunge, One motion
• 29:13
  that when the ball popped out should have been incomplete.
• 29:16
  I'm with you on that. 100% and the ball was on his fingertips.
• 29:20
  He had, he did have possession. I just, I don't think he
• 29:23
  finished the play. There there are plays that have
• 29:26
  been called incomplete that look very similar to that.
• 29:29
  If if that's a big play for the Bengals and that's T Higgins and
• 29:32
  that's what happens to the ball, I get it to you.
• 29:34
  They're not calling it catch. I just guarantee it.
• 29:39
  The leagues. The leagues against the Bengals.
• 29:40
  I don't think that's the case, but I just know the way my life
• 29:44
  works. The way my life works.
• 29:48
  But but it also like say Pook is out of bounds so we get a last
• 29:53
  second throw to see who goes the suit.
• 29:57
  I mean, it would have been. It was close enough.
• 30:00
  What about the 40? Yeah, they were a little cross
• 30:02
  midfield, but yeah, it was close enough.
• 30:05
  You know what they're trying to do?
• 30:06
  Yeah, give them a chance. I agree.
• 30:10
  But I mean, it was the right he was tackled in bounds.
• 30:12
  We're not going to, we're not going to argue that one because
• 30:14
  that was the right call. It was it was close, but it I I
• 30:17
  do think it was the right call. But let's let's just I'm I'm I'm
• 30:20
  here to give Sam Darnold his credit.
• 30:23
  I mean, the way that he bounced back like he's had the rap of,
• 30:26
  you know, he can fall apart in these big situations like he did
• 30:29
  last year was the one seed Minnesota.
• 30:31
  But you know what, I think against the team that he
• 30:34
  struggled with this year, he I sent you the the text.
• 30:37
  And like, man, regular season against the Rams, he had two
• 30:40
  touchdowns and six picks. And then in the game the other
• 30:43
  night, 3 touchdowns, no picks. Yeah, he's, he's great.
• 30:47
  He probably played one of the and on that stage, he probably
• 30:50
  played the best game of his career.
• 30:52
  And for a guy that was written off in New York, written off.
• 30:55
  And I mean, he was terrible in New York, written off in
• 30:57
  Carolina because he was terrible there.
• 30:59
  He was the backup, I'm pretty sure to Brock Purdy in San
• 31:02
  Francisco for a year, Like this guy's dead.
• 31:06
  And for him to come back like he did last year in Minnesota, and
• 31:09
  then to cap it off with an NFC championship this year, like
• 31:11
  what a comeback story. No.
• 31:14
  And look how many Jets quarterbacks have we seen that
• 31:18
  have had great careers with being drafted by The Jets.
• 31:22
  Is Zach Wilson Is Zach Wilson going to pop up somewhere and
• 31:25
  lead some team to the playoffs in the Super Bowl next year?
• 31:28
  Nice. Probably not.
• 31:30
  Mark Sanchez is the last one to really have some success.
• 31:33
  That was drafted there, right? Yeah.
• 31:37
  So yeah, you should get a second chance if you're not succeeding
• 31:42
  with The Jets. But he sat behind.
• 31:44
  Some people at the Panthers either.
• 31:46
  Sat behind? Who was he sitting?
• 31:48
  I don't remember who he was sitting behind in Carolina, but.
• 31:53
  Was he behind Baker? Huh.
• 31:55
  Was he behind Baker? I'm not 100% sure.
• 32:00
  I didn't know we were going to go into Sam Darnold's whole
• 32:03
  career. But but you're right though,
• 32:06
  it's on the credit and now you're a 4 1/2 point favorite in
• 32:11
  the Super Bowl. And that team's defense is
• 32:14
  incredible. Their their coach is a maniac,
• 32:20
  which I think that's kind of what you want.
• 32:23
  We've talked about that several times.
• 32:25
  You just watch his post game on the stand.
• 32:28
  The dude just is a nut and you want that and I.
• 32:34
  Mean we talked about that in Chicago with Ben Johnson.
• 32:37
  Yeah. That's the kind of guys that we
• 32:40
  want I. Mean in, Jigva's turned into one
• 32:44
  of the top wide receivers in the league.
• 32:47
  Kenneth Walker's a beast. Like I yeah, this game will
• 32:52
  probably be closer, and I think it's going to be, but Seattle's
• 32:55
  just 4 1/2. I'm probably taking that.
• 33:02
  Yeah, I mean, it's out West, so it's it's up in the northwest
• 33:07
  kind of where some in a building that Seattle plays in twice a
• 33:09
  year. Like they're familiar with that
• 33:11
  and they don't have to go very far.
• 33:13
  I mean, I know that teams get out there week in advance, so,
• 33:17
  you know, New England will be acclimated before the game.
• 33:20
  But I mean, it's it's kind of home out there for Seattle on
• 33:24
  the coast. So I mean, it'll be business as
• 33:26
  usual for them. I think they're the better team.
• 33:29
  We've sat here and pounded the fact that we don't think the
• 33:32
  Patriots are very good, but Patriots are 14 and three and
• 33:35
  Mike are in the regular season when Mike Vrabel is one of the
• 33:38
  better coaches in the league. So I think it will be a good
• 33:43
  game, but I still think that the the Seahawks come out on top.
• 33:47
  Yeah, we can get into that more next week too, as we have.
• 33:50
  We can break down the Pro Bowl this week if you want, as the
• 33:53
  Pro Bowl is coming up this weekend.
• 33:55
  We're there's zero we can talk about how pointless the Pro Bowl
• 33:59
  is when Shador Sanders is a Pro Bowler.
• 34:02
  Like, why do we even have that? Like this shouldn't even be a
• 34:04
  thing. It makes zero sense just.
• 34:08
  Cancel it. Cancel.
• 34:10
  Shador Sanders dude didn't start till what, week 13?
• 34:16
  And hasn't worked. Started wasn't great.
• 34:18
  Had more. Subjects and he has touchdowns.
• 34:21
  He's a Pro Bowler. And he's a Pro Bowler.
• 34:23
  I mean, that's a me just says that every other starter in the
• 34:27
  AFC said no, they don't want to go to the Pro Bowl.
• 34:30
  And half the backups in the AFC probably said, no, we don't want
• 34:33
  to go to the Pro Bowl either. And they're like, well, I guess
• 34:35
  Shadora Sanders is 35th on our list.
• 34:38
  Let's see if he wants to go. And of course he's going to say
• 34:40
  yes. Just cancel it.
• 34:43
  I mean, it's just, it's what is it?
• 34:44
  Dodgeball and tug of war and. Flag and flag.
• 34:48
  Have you? Have you even watched it in the
• 34:50
  last couple years? No, I used to watch it when it
• 34:53
  was an actual game. Yeah, but it still wasn't great.
• 34:57
  But then there was just no D It was just yeah.
• 34:59
  Boring. It still wasn't great.
• 35:00
  It's And look, doing a exhibition football game is not
• 35:05
  the easiest thing because you don't want people to get hurt.
• 35:07
  The NBA All Star game sucks now too.
• 35:10
  Like baseball's still the only. Baseball's the only baseball's
• 35:14
  the only one that actually is good.
• 35:15
  But it's just the easiest one to do because you're not as worried
• 35:18
  about people getting hurt. They could play in the NBA.
• 35:21
  They just don't want to guard. But we now have a Super Bowl.
• 35:27
  Have you seen with Drake May and Sam Darnold?
• 35:30
  Have you seen the the painting or the the portrait that they
• 35:34
  did at the beginning of the year where it's got all these players
• 35:39
  from the NFL like Jake Juan's at the front or not?
• 35:42
  He's at the back, but he's at the front of the picture.
• 35:45
  Like Burrows there in Mahomes and all the way at the front,
• 35:47
  standing right next to each other, Drake May and Sam
• 35:51
  Darnold. They are the front of the line
• 35:53
  looking yes at the stadium right next to each other.
• 35:57
  So. The conspiracy theorists are
• 35:59
  running wild with that one. Yes, and when you have a Drake
• 36:05
  may Sam Darnold Super Bowl, it's not the it's not 2 Hall of
• 36:11
  Farmers, it's. Not it's not the sexiest match.
• 36:13
  Super Bowls, it's not, Yeah, not the sexiest matchup.
• 36:18
  Let's do a little team tall versus team small.
• 36:21
  OK. Little draft where we draft the
• 36:25
  worst quarterback matchups in the Super Bowl and let's keep it
• 36:31
  our era. So let's go 90 as as recent as
• 36:37
  1990 to where we are now. OK, who's picking first?
• 36:44
  You can pick first. How many picks do we get?
• 36:47
  You get one pick to start. We can do 44 each, then we'll do
• 36:50
  snake. OK, my number one pick in worst
• 36:55
  quarterback Super Bowl matchups is going to come from the 2002
• 37:01
  Super Bowl where the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat the Oakland
• 37:06
  Raiders, and that game was started by Brad Johnson of the
• 37:10
  Buccaneers and Rich Gannon of the Oakland Raiders.
• 37:14
  A Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon Super Bowl is probably, to me,
• 37:18
  the worst quarterback matchup that I've seen.
• 37:21
  Not a great one and then it wasn't a great game either.
• 37:24
  I think Rich Gannon threw like 3 picks in that game.
• 37:26
  The The Bucks were known for their defense and they scored 48
• 37:30
  points. Yeah.
• 37:33
  So now I got to pick two. Yeah.
• 37:36
  Well, just two years before that.
• 37:40
  Yeah. You've got who was it?
• 37:46
  Trent Dilfer. Trent Dilfer of the Ravens,
• 37:48
  Yeah. And then the quarterback for the
• 37:53
  Giants was Kerry Collins. Kerry Collins.
• 37:59
  That's bad. So I'm going that another and
• 38:06
  just another bad game. The Ravens dominated and.
• 38:09
  I mean that defense of the Ravens.
• 38:10
  And one of the best, I mean, it was the Bucks too, one of the
• 38:13
  better defenses in history. But yeah, that Ravens defence
• 38:17
  was was unbelievable. So I'll go Terry Collins versus
• 38:20
  Trent Dilfer as my second pick and then as my third pick gets a
• 38:29
  little tougher. It does get tougher.
• 38:32
  But I'm going to go the Harball bow, Flacco, Kaepernick.
• 38:42
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, Flacco had some good years in in Baltimore
• 38:47
  and you know, he he was, he's been, he's been a good
• 38:49
  quarterback over his career. But when you look at some of
• 38:51
  the, the other names that are, are Super Bowl quality
• 38:53
  quarterbacks, he's. And you just look at so many of
• 38:57
  the Super Bowls have Tom Brady, have Peyton Manning, have
• 39:00
  Patrick Mahomes. It's it's hard to pick those
• 39:03
  because you've got Surefire Hall of Farmers.
• 39:05
  Yes, no, you're right. All right.
• 39:07
  Your 4th and 5th picks. Like you said, it's hard because
• 39:12
  there's there's some bad quarterbacks that have played in
• 39:14
  the Super Bowl, but on the other side of it are some Hall of
• 39:16
  farmers. You know, you're looking at
• 39:17
  like, and this is not going to be my pick.
• 39:20
  But just for instance, in like 94 you had, you know, Steve
• 39:23
  Young, who's a Hall of Famer, one of the best quarterbacks of
• 39:25
  all time against Stan Humphries of the chart.
• 39:27
  So it's like after the. Quarterback matchup is staying
• 39:31
  Humphreys so. Yeah, that's what I'm saying is
• 39:33
  like, I don't you can't pick the match up because one's a Hall of
• 39:36
  Famer. But I'm going to go probably
• 39:39
  with my next pick, the 2005 Super Bowl, the Pittsburgh
• 39:44
  Steelers Ben Roethlisberger and the Seattle Seahawks, Matt
• 39:47
  Hasselbeck. That was the one I was deciding
• 39:52
  between Flacco and Kaepernick. Yeah, I mean, you could flip
• 39:57
  flop either way. Yeah, no, you're right.
• 40:00
  But then you've got like, there's so many Mahomes and so
• 40:03
  many Bradys. It gets tougher.
• 40:09
  I'm going to go 1999. And then, even though he is a
• 40:15
  Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner and the Rams and Steve McNair of the
• 40:19
  Titan. I think that one's a little
• 40:23
  early. You think it's too early?
• 40:25
  Yeah. Warner is it.
• 40:28
  Warner's a Hall of Famer, but Warner's a Hall of Famer.
• 40:32
  But I don't like he's a French Hall of Famer to me.
• 40:37
  So you got to go. 199495 Super Bowl Steve Young and Stan
• 40:46
  Humphries Stan. Humphries.
• 40:50
  The game was terrible and. I mean, it was a complete
• 40:55
  blowout. Yeah, that was that was a bad
• 40:58
  game. And then you've got a Chris
• 41:01
  Chandler game against Elway, you got a Jake the Long game against
• 41:04
  Brady, or you got a Rex Grossman game against Peyton Manning.
• 41:09
  We have a Neil O'Donnell versus Aikman in there.
• 41:11
  As if you want one of those too. Yeah, you do have that one too.
• 41:19
  Wow, who was the worst of those 3, Chandler, Delome or Grossman?
• 41:27
  It's got to be sexy Rexy, doesn't it?
• 41:30
  I think it does. I I think I'm, I'm going Peyton
• 41:33
  Manning and Rex Grossman is my last pick.
• 41:37
  OK. So you got one more.
• 41:40
  Yeah, my last pick is going to be it's bad.
• 41:57
  I am mad that I didn't pick Roethlisberger Hasselbeck
• 42:00
  instead of Flacco Kaepernick. Oh yes, sneeze.
• 42:08
  Don't you have a cough button? Yeah, but I don't have my studio
• 42:12
  thing pulled up. I'm looking at the list of Super
• 42:14
  Bowl quarterbacks, so debating which is the worst.
• 42:17
  It's. Got to be.
• 42:22
  I'm not going to go it's it's, but to me it's between the Delon
• 42:27
  Brady or the Aikman and an O'Donnell.
• 42:29
  But since Brady's the GOAT, I'm going to go.
• 42:31
  Troy Aikman versus Neil O'Donnell in 1995.
• 42:35
  Well, Elway, Chris Chandler does not in the thought process.
• 42:41
  No, because Chandler's better than O'Donnell.
• 42:43
  And is he always better than Aikman?
• 42:48
  Always better than Aikman. I'm going to go Chandler over
• 42:50
  O'Donnell. I'm not sure.
• 42:52
  Oh, I'm going 19. My last pick's going to be
• 42:54
  Aikman and Neil O'Donnell. Like he just sucked when he was
• 42:59
  a Bengal too. Where does this year's match up?
• 43:02
  How many is it worse than? Oh I would put this in the top
• 43:06
  4. It's better.
• 43:10
  It's better than Gaynan Johnson and Collins Dilfer, but I don't
• 43:13
  know if it's better than anything else.
• 43:20
  Your site you're putting above Gannon and Johnson and Collins
• 43:23
  and Dilfer. And I think that's it.
• 43:26
  Yeah, because neither one of these, I mean, Drake May's
• 43:29
  career is still to be written. He could be a Hall of Famer and
• 43:32
  we could be looking back at this in 10 years and be like, man,
• 43:35
  that Drake May was awesome. But it's highly doubtful still.
• 43:39
  Yeah, no, you're right. You're probably right.
• 43:41
  It is probably the third worst QB match up since 1990.
• 43:45
  I go. I agree with you there.
• 43:49
  But definitely not what we predicted unless you were doing
• 43:51
  that painting or whatever it is and you knew all along that
• 43:55
  these were going to be the guys. We now know who the guys are
• 43:59
  going to be leading the AFC North teams as Zach Taylor is
• 44:05
  the only coach returning the AFC North.
• 44:09
  The Steelers are bringing in Mike McCarthy.
• 44:13
  The Ravens are bringing in Jesse Mentor, and it was just
• 44:18
  announced today that the Browns are bringing in Todd Monken.
• 44:22
  And Jim Schwartz is not happy about it.
• 44:25
  And I think they just lost their defense coordinator as well
• 44:28
  because he wanted the job. And even though he's still under
• 44:30
  contract, I think he walked out of that building pretty upset
• 44:33
  when he realized he didn't get the job.
• 44:37
  How do you rank AFC North coaches?
• 44:41
  1:00 to 4:00? I mean just by overall success,
• 44:47
  I mean, and I think it's I don't think that it was a great hire
• 44:50
  by the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Mike McCarthy has had success in
• 44:55
  the past as a head coach in both Green Bay and a little bit he
• 44:59
  had up and down. He had mixed results in in.
• 45:01
  Dallas. He had mixed results.
• 45:04
  I mean, he's he went to the playoffs and he went a division
• 45:06
  title down there. Maybe, but.
• 45:08
  Yeah, I I would say that Mike McCarthy is probably just the.
• 45:15
  Division titles ran Mike Tomlin out.
• 45:19
  I don't know, but you're like out of the four head coaches
• 45:23
  that are in the Division, I think Mike McCarthy, based on
• 45:25
  his his resume, is probably the top.
• 45:28
  Yeah, and you can't put Jesse Minner at the top because he's
• 45:30
  never coached. You can't put Todd Monken at the
• 45:33
  top because he's never been a head coach.
• 45:36
  So I agree with you. McCarthy's one.
• 45:38
  Am I? If I'm a Steelers fan, am I
• 45:40
  excited about it? No, no, I mean the team that I
• 45:45
  think should be most excited about their head coach in the
• 45:47
  prospects would probably be Baltimore.
• 45:49
  I agree. But you mean just you just don't
• 45:52
  know yet. So like, you can't put a guy
• 45:54
  that's never been a head coach at the top of a head coaching
• 45:56
  ranking because he's never done it.
• 45:58
  But. I know how bad you would Zach
• 46:00
  Taylor out of there. Is he?
• 46:03
  Where does he rank? 5th.
• 46:11
  What is he right? There's there's, there's,
• 46:13
  there's the top, there's those other 3, then there's some
• 46:16
  unknown 4th and then Zach Taylor's fifth.
• 46:18
  I mean, just based on that logic, he's probably #2 somehow
• 46:25
  at the end of next season, I, I'm going to tell you he will
• 46:27
  not be #2 he'll probably be 3 or 4.
• 46:30
  I mean, I, I think he's a bum. I went all said and done.
• 46:33
  If I had to actually rank him, I would even with or without
• 46:36
  experience, like I said, I think Baltimore has the most to be
• 46:38
  excited about in their higher. I would put that higher at #1 I
• 46:42
  would put the Steelers higher, Mike McCarthy at #2 and then I
• 46:47
  would put the Browns higher of Monk in at #3 So I'm pretty sure
• 46:50
  Baltimore wasn't happy with Monk in.
• 46:51
  And like, that's what ended up getting Hardball fired as his
• 46:55
  loyalty to Monk in and Baltimore wanted to make a change there
• 46:58
  when he and Lamar Muckin and Lalar didn't get along was the
• 47:00
  rumor. And and it's just the Browns.
• 47:03
  The Browns just somehow screw everything up.
• 47:05
  So I would put Monckin third among those those new hires.
• 47:09
  So I would go mentor McCarthy and then Monckin in that order
• 47:13
  of of those 3 new hires. As far as excited us, yeah, I
• 47:16
  would agree with that order. But if you're ranking coaches in
• 47:19
  the AFC North. Zach Taylor's, too.
• 47:21
  I think you got to go. McCarthy, Zach.
• 47:24
  Mentor Monkin. That Monkin, yeah, that's,
• 47:26
  that's the right order. That is the correct order, but
• 47:29
  only because Mentor hasn't. Monkin haven't really done
• 47:32
  anything yet. Also, if you don't take
• 47:33
  advantage of this next year, the schedule next year where you're
• 47:36
  facing, I mean 10 coaches and I think the Bengals are facing a
• 47:40
  lot of these teams next year, you're going to get a lot of
• 47:42
  teams with the first. You're getting six games in
• 47:44
  division with the first year head coach.
• 47:46
  If you don't take advantage of this and get to the playoffs,
• 47:48
  you go to 4th, you right away. Yeah, to 4th, you're behind.
• 47:54
  You're behind Monken if you can't get to the playoffs next
• 47:57
  year. No, you're behind Monken, Yeah.
• 48:01
  I guess one more thing before we get off the NFL.
• 48:04
  The news yesterday. Somehow, Bill Belichick is not a
• 48:11
  first ballot Hall of Famer. It makes no sense.
• 48:16
  He's the greatest NFL coach of all time.
• 48:19
  Is it just? 6 Super Bowls as a head coach. 6
• 48:22
  Super Bowls where's he rank all time?
• 48:27
  When he presented she's up there.
• 48:31
  I had it pulled up. This is the wrong one.
• 48:38
  I just I don't understand how he needed 40 out of 50.
• 48:43
  So who vote? Who?
• 48:45
  Who votes on this? Riders.
• 48:48
  They are riders. All of them are riders.
• 48:51
  I mean, I think this is just the riders trying to send a message.
• 48:55
  It's just the riders sending a message to Belichick that, you
• 48:58
  know, he was kind of a, an, a hole maybe for a little bit of
• 49:01
  his career, most of his career. And then the the two scandals,
• 49:05
  if you will, with the Deflategate, the spy gate and
• 49:08
  whatever other gate you want to call it.
• 49:11
  I think it's just a message. Just kind of like, you know,
• 49:14
  like we're going to keep put your ego in check.
• 49:16
  Yeah. Like we, we know you're the
• 49:18
  greatest of all time. You are a Hall of Famer.
• 49:20
  But you know, we're going to make this little, we're going to
• 49:22
  make you wait a little more because you were such an A hole
• 49:24
  to us for 20 years. It's not the way that's it's not
• 49:27
  the way. I know it's not the way it's
• 49:28
  supposed to go. What?
• 49:29
  What? What?
• 49:30
  Well, how else is there an explanation that why he's not in
• 49:32
  the Hall of Fame? Dude has 6 Super Bowls and ranks
• 49:35
  second all time and wins to Don Shula.
• 49:37
  So what's your explanation first?
• 49:39
  Ballot head coach. Look, I don't like him either.
• 49:42
  I don't like him either. But if that's not a first ballot
• 49:44
  head coach, then there's there's no fist coach.
• 49:47
  Of all time, he's the greatest NFL coach of all time 6 He's
• 49:51
  absolutely no doubtedly it should be 50 out of 50 votes get
• 49:54
  him in first ballot, 50 out of 50.
• 49:56
  But he did it. So what's your explanation for
• 49:58
  it? I just gave you mine, What's
• 50:00
  yours? Well, the fact that when Brady
• 50:03
  left, they weren't very good. Does that play a role?
• 50:06
  I don't think it should because you already did what you did.
• 50:11
  But when he didn't have Tom Brady as his quarterback, he was
• 50:16
  not that great of a coach. So you're going to punish Jimmy
• 50:21
  Johnson because he had Troy Aikman I and it's nothing,
• 50:24
  Michael. You're asking me to try to
• 50:26
  figure this out. I think it's absurd.
• 50:28
  Oh, because he had one or one year without Brady.
• 50:30
  Or two years without Brady. Before that, before he wasn't a
• 50:33
  great head coach either. Before he got Brady.
• 50:37
  It's absurd. The the like I said, if he's not
• 50:40
  a first ballot Hall of Fame coach then they don't exist and
• 50:43
  they should never exist again. Dude won 6 soups and is second
• 50:48
  on the all time win list. Yeah he's a nut.
• 50:52
  Yeah, but you you see the highlights of the the Malcolm
• 50:58
  Butler pick against Russell Wilson in the the Super Bowl and
• 51:02
  they run like that, the five minute where they're kind of
• 51:04
  doing behind the scenes and just watching him talk about that
• 51:07
  play and how everything that was going on.
• 51:09
  And they're all like, should we call Tom outcall time out?
• 51:11
  He's just over. We got this, we got this, we
• 51:15
  got. This, I mean, there there was
• 51:16
  more than just Tom Brady that won those Super Bowls.
• 51:19
  I mean, Tom Brady was a a main factor, but Bill Belichick knows
• 51:23
  how to coach football. Well, no kidding.
• 51:26
  But evidently there's 10 writers or 10 committee members that
• 51:31
  don't think that he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
• 51:34
  And they should all have to explain what they think of first
• 51:37
  ballot Hall of Famer is because I don't care if you don't like
• 51:41
  him, dudes. Numbers look at numbers matter.
• 51:45
  Success on the field matters. And if you I guess that if
• 51:49
  you're trying to make sense of it, which there it makes no
• 51:51
  sense at all. But if you're trying to make any
• 51:52
  little bit of sense, I think that, like I said, those two
• 51:55
  scandals, the Deflategates and the Spygates played may probably
• 52:01
  played a role in that. Why he's not a first ballot Hall
• 52:04
  of Famer. Maybe, and I just think he rubs
• 52:06
  people the wrong way. Yeah.
• 52:09
  The whole the whole 23 year old girlfriend, the whole thing in
• 52:12
  North Carolina, the Deflategates, the combination of
• 52:16
  all that maybe plays a role. It's and.
• 52:19
  Or you think if he doesn't take, you think if he doesn't take the
• 52:23
  head coaching job at North Carolina and dates a 23 year old
• 52:26
  girlfriend. He's in the Hall of Fame right
• 52:27
  now. I would hope that it doesn't
• 52:30
  change it, but I'm just trying to figure out why these riders
• 52:34
  are being as petty as they are. I mean, I guess do these
• 52:38
  ballots, will these ballots become public like the baseball
• 52:41
  riders are? They should if they're not.
• 52:45
  Like they need to, they, they need, they need to show these
• 52:47
  guys ballots and give me the, the, the people that did not
• 52:50
  vote for him. And we need answers.
• 52:52
  We need answers as to why? Because it doesn't make any
• 52:55
  sense. Yeah.
• 52:56
  It makes if if he's not a first ballot, then you explain to me
• 53:00
  what is because I don't know how you do much more than what he
• 53:04
  did as a as a head coach. Yeah, you.
• 53:10
  Ready to get in a little college hoops?
• 53:12
  Sure. Now that college football's
• 53:16
  over, the Hoosiers are national champions.
• 53:19
  Now we can talk a little little more college hoops.
• 53:22
  Little B ball, OK. I guess we can start in Ann
• 53:30
  Arbor yesterday. Yeah, Nebraska, They're down to
• 53:35
  guys. Mast was out, he was sick, and
• 53:38
  then Braden Frager's been out the last couple games with
• 53:40
  sprained ankles, so they were out without their second and
• 53:43
  third leading scorers. They completely control the
• 53:49
  first half. They hit like 10-3 pointers in
• 53:51
  the first half, got up double digits, ended up going to the
• 53:54
  halftime only up two. It was 50 to 48 at half.
• 53:58
  You're like. And then the second-half the
• 54:00
  script flipped completely as they put a lid on the basket for
• 54:06
  both teams. After hitting 10 threes in the
• 54:08
  first half, I think they only made 1/3 from behind the arc in
• 54:12
  the second-half. Michigan gets a a late bucket on
• 54:16
  what I thought maybe was a charge.
• 54:19
  Yeah. But I would this is my take away
• 54:23
  from the game. We already knew Michigan is
• 54:25
  really good. Yes.
• 54:27
  And there were questions about Nebraska, even though they had
• 54:31
  started 20 and O and it won their last 24 games because they
• 54:36
  won the college basketball crown or whatever that tournament was
• 54:39
  at the end of the year last year.
• 54:40
  So they were. They had won 24 straight games.
• 54:43
  Yeah. I'll be honest with you, I'm
• 54:45
  more impressed with Nebraska at 20 and one than I was with
• 54:51
  Nebraska at 20 and O. They showed me that much and at.
• 54:55
  This time, yeah, yesterday was a big test like Michigan.
• 54:59
  It's it's no secret they've been one of the better teams all
• 55:01
  year. They had that hiccup against
• 55:02
  Wisconsin at home, but before that they were just beating the,
• 55:06
  you know, the tar out of teams. I mean, they were winning games
• 55:08
  by 203040. So I mean over 40 points for
• 55:12
  Nebraska to go into Michigan, their toughest test of the year.
• 55:15
  And they led for 91% of that game.
• 55:18
  They led for 91%. The largest lead for Michigan
• 55:20
  was the final score 3. They won by three points.
• 55:23
  That was their largest lead of the game.
• 55:24
  Nebraska controlled that game. They they led, like I said, 91%
• 55:28
  of it down a couple guys like Nebraska's, they're for real.
• 55:33
  They answered the question of can they compete with those top
• 55:37
  echelon teams? And last night showed them that
• 55:39
  yes, yes, yes they can. In the first half, I didn't know
• 55:42
  if Jamarcus Lawrence was going to miss a shot and he calmed
• 55:46
  down in the second-half just like the rest of the Nebraska
• 55:50
  team did. But I mean, Jacobson, who
• 55:52
  doesn't normally start, came off the bench and had some some big
• 55:56
  buckets for him when they were struggling to score there in the
• 55:58
  second-half. Michigan could win the whole
• 56:01
  Dang thing and I but honestly, I think Nebraska's in that
• 56:04
  conversation too. And I think that if you can go
• 56:07
  on the road when you're down your second or third best
• 56:09
  scorers and you get the, you build a lead like that against a
• 56:14
  team like Michigan and you've got a chance there at the end to
• 56:17
  to win it. It turned me into a believer.
• 56:21
  I both these teams are are national title contenders and I
• 56:27
  you got to give Michigan credit too, for figuring out a way to
• 56:29
  win. It was freshman McKinney that
• 56:31
  that had that bucket late and he had a couple, he had a couple
• 56:35
  big threes too there in the second-half.
• 56:36
  But I mean. Yeah, I mean, we, we, like I
• 56:40
  said, we're, we're giving Nebraska their credit.
• 56:42
  We, we, we agree that we think they're for real.
• 56:44
  And they have another opportunity, two of their next
• 56:47
  three games to, to prove us right.
• 56:49
  Like they've got Illinois #9 Illinois coming in this weekend
• 56:52
  on Sunday, and then they have Rutgers, which will be an an
• 56:56
  easy task. But then right after that,
• 56:58
  they've got Purdue something in. Michigan State should have lost
• 57:00
  to Rutgers yesterday. Yeah, but I mean, Indiana just
• 57:04
  beat the crap out of Rutgers right before that.
• 57:06
  Rutgers isn't very good, but #9 Illinois #9 Illinois coming to
• 57:11
  Nebraska on Sunday. And then ten days later, on
• 57:15
  February 10th, you've got Purdue.
• 57:17
  I know Purdue's lost three straight.
• 57:18
  They're kind of on a slide right now, but still a pretty good
• 57:21
  team. I don't know.
• 57:23
  They're still a pretty good team.
• 57:24
  So you've got Illinois and Purdue two out of your next
• 57:27
  three after your that tough loss in Michigan.
• 57:29
  So this is this is where you make everybody a believer if
• 57:32
  you're Nebraska. Well, and, and like I said, they
• 57:34
  they kind of made me a believer in a loss.
• 57:37
  No, yeah, they were the same. Same.
• 57:38
  But now you have a chance to really go back it up.
• 57:41
  And the other big game last night was Kentucky at Vanderbilt
• 57:46
  and was not a game at all. Was.
• 57:51
  Was was nothing. Vanderbilt's playing without
• 57:55
  Duke Miles because we just talked about Nebraska playing
• 57:57
  without their second and third league scores.
• 57:59
  They're playing without Duke Miles, their second leading
• 58:01
  scorer. And it did not matter even a
• 58:05
  little bit. I told you, Tyler Tanner's one
• 58:10
  of my favorite guards to watch in in college basketball.
• 58:14
  And he had that ball and a string and could do get wherever
• 58:18
  he wanted the entire game, could do whatever he wanted the entire
• 58:22
  game. And I know Kentucky's came back
• 58:27
  from these deficits and you're like, I've watched them come
• 58:31
  back against LSUI, watched him come back against Tennessee.
• 58:34
  They were not coming back in this game.
• 58:37
  No, I mean it was. I mean it was.
• 58:40
  I mean, Vandy got up what, 11 right off the bat, almost like
• 58:44
  very early and it was just kind of lights out from there.
• 58:47
  And, you know, it's kind of a it's a tough set back if you're
• 58:49
  a Kentucky fan. I mean, you, you got some
• 58:51
  momentum going. I think they'd won what, five
• 58:53
  straight, four or five straight. You know, they beat, they beat a
• 58:56
  good Tennessee team on the road at Tennessee.
• 59:00
  You know, they, they, they have come back from these large
• 59:03
  deficits, but they, they won the game.
• 59:04
  They found a way to win. So, you know, you strung these
• 59:07
  wins together against some, against some pretty good teams
• 59:09
  and you've got some momentum going.
• 59:10
  And then just to go into to Vandy and get drubbed by 25,
• 59:14
  that's, yeah, kind of tough. Well, a couple weeks back I had
• 59:19
  talked about how I think Vanderbilt's a legit national
• 59:21
  title consider and they went along right away to lose 3 in a
• 59:25
  row. They lost to a Texas, they lost
• 59:27
  to Florida, and then they lost to Arkansas.
• 59:29
  I, I still think this team is really good and the opposite of
• 59:35
  that. Kentucky's just not very good.
• 59:39
  And you can't make a habit of going down 17 and 18 and
• 59:43
  expecting to win. Vanderbilt's just better than
• 59:46
  LSU and they're better than Tennessee.
• 59:49
  You're not going to have the ability to come back against
• 59:51
  them like like you you did against those teams.
• 59:54
  And Vanderbilt got out the big, big weapons on social media,
• 1:00:03
  tweeting after the game. They just tased Ryan.
• 1:00:08
  This ball game is over. I saw the the high school video
• 1:00:13
  from where? What part of Kentucky was that?
• 1:00:15
  That high school game? We need to research it, but that
• 1:00:19
  video is incredible. It just tastes.
• 1:00:22
  Just a it's a middle school game.
• 1:00:24
  Was I was a middle? School game, Middle school, He
• 1:00:27
  was a middle school game, but the people are all over the
• 1:00:30
  court and they're doing play by play the whole thing and they're
• 1:00:34
  like we. Gotta get out of here.
• 1:00:35
  We got in. This broadcast.
• 1:00:37
  One Ryan, a coat, one of the coaches.
• 1:00:39
  I don't even know who Ryan was. They were just like they just
• 1:00:41
  tased Ryan. So Van is on their social media.
• 1:00:46
  That's that was their tweet after the game with the score.
• 1:00:49
  They just tased Ryan. This ball game is over and that
• 1:00:54
  the ball game was over. It was over pretty early.
• 1:00:59
  That's pretty good. Pope's teams have trailed by 15
• 1:01:02
  or more points at halftime and nearly 1/4 of their matchups
• 1:01:06
  against Power 4 competition in his two years.
• 1:01:10
  And including Power 4 plus Gonzaga in 9 or 40 games, they
• 1:01:15
  have trailed by 15 or more at halftime.
• 1:01:22
  And I'm putting you to sleep with those numbers.
• 1:01:23
  I mean, that's, that's, it's not going to be good enough, you
• 1:01:28
  know, for those fans in Lexington, I mean, they, they
• 1:01:31
  expect better. So.
• 1:01:33
  They just I don't. Like I said, I thought they I
• 1:01:35
  thought they'd maybe started turning a corner.
• 1:01:37
  They they strung some wins together and then this just kind
• 1:01:40
  of undid the last two weeks worth of work it.
• 1:01:45
  It definitely did Monday night. You had Arizona undefeated going
• 1:01:53
  into BYU and. That's the team that I think
• 1:01:58
  that's Arizona to me, I think is the best team in the country.
• 1:02:01
  They're ranked number one, but they're playing unbelievable
• 1:02:05
  basketball. Look, and we've talked a lot
• 1:02:07
  about a little bit about Coopete being one of the better freshmen
• 1:02:10
  in the country, but dude, they're back court with Jane
• 1:02:14
  Bradley who came back. He was there last year and the
• 1:02:17
  freshman who also this this kids on my list.
• 1:02:21
  Bradenbury's just an absolute stud.
• 1:02:26
  Their backcourt is incredible. And BYU makes that late rally,
• 1:02:30
  which I kind of turned it off thinking it was.
• 1:02:32
  Over I did too, I. Did too and then you turn it on
• 1:02:35
  and they're getting AJ Dubois is going to the line and they end
• 1:02:40
  up tying it and but two really good teams.
• 1:02:48
  Richie Saunders is fun to watch but I'm telling you, brain
• 1:02:53
  buries, I know he's a freshman to do that.
• 1:02:55
  Kids a stone cold killer and was a big reason why they were able
• 1:02:58
  to pull it out even though BYU made that crazy run there late.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, no, I mean, they they're playing the best ball.
• 1:03:08
  They've got, like you said, a couple stud friend.
• 1:03:09
  We Co Pete's the the one that everybody talks about, but
• 1:03:14
  they're sitting there undefeated at what, 20 and O, 21 and O with
• 1:03:18
  some big wins already. This is another one at BYU.
• 1:03:23
  I mean, I would put them and probably Duke at the top of the
• 1:03:27
  list as far as top teams in college basketball.
• 1:03:32
  Yeah, I think you got to Uconn's got to be up there as well.
• 1:03:41
  Michigan, I think those are probably the three best teams.
• 1:03:47
  But the story of of this year to me is the freshman and on on
• 1:03:53
  Saturday we had three freshmen that scored 40 plus points.
• 1:03:58
  I saw that, yeah. And seven freshmen went for 30
• 1:04:01
  plus points. Keaton Waggler for Illinois and
• 1:04:08
  just Purdue's lost three in a row.
• 1:04:09
  But they they played well on Saturday and just couldn't
• 1:04:13
  figure out a way to to stop. Waggler, a guy who is from
• 1:04:16
  Kansas, was not heavily recruited, gets 46 points on
• 1:04:20
  9/11 from three, the most points scored in a road win over a top
• 1:04:26
  10 opponent in AP history. His 46 points were the most
• 1:04:30
  against the top ten team since Malik Monk had 47 against North
• 1:04:34
  Carolina. He was incredible.
• 1:04:39
  And then Debansa, also on Saturday, had 43 points in their
• 1:04:42
  win over over Utah. He was 15 to 24.
• 1:04:46
  And then Kingston Fleming in the loss against Texas Tech for
• 1:04:50
  Houston had 42 points. And and then you had what?
• 1:04:54
  Boozer had 32, Acuff had 30. It just might be one of the
• 1:05:00
  better freshman class in the in the history of college
• 1:05:03
  basketball. Oh yeah.
• 1:05:04
  I mean, we, we've talked about this freshman class before.
• 1:05:07
  I think it probably is the best freshman class in in the history
• 1:05:11
  of college basketball. And you even got the freshman up
• 1:05:14
  at Stanford who coming into the, yeah, he's the third leading
• 1:05:18
  scorer, third leading scorer freshman in the country right
• 1:05:21
  now. But coming into to the season,
• 1:05:23
  he was ranked in like the ESPN, like he was like #175 or 1 high
• 1:05:27
  one hundreds. Like nobody's ever talked about
• 1:05:29
  this guy. And he's come in right away at
• 1:05:32
  Stanford and just dominated. I'm putting on big performances
• 1:05:35
  like against Louisville and against Carolina and against
• 1:05:38
  other good teams. So I mean, top to bottom, this
• 1:05:40
  freshman class, I mean even guys that weren't even on the radar
• 1:05:43
  before the season are having spectacular seasons.
• 1:05:48
  And just to add to that, Waggler was 261 in his class and the
• 1:05:52
  only other power for school to offer him was Minnesota.
• 1:05:56
  And you know, this did kind of add to this games Lord.
• 1:06:00
  Purdue lost. They had 82 points, shot 57% and
• 1:06:03
  had three turnovers and they lost.
• 1:06:08
  Just kind of adds even more to the job that Wagler did to to
• 1:06:11
  figure out a way to win that game.
• 1:06:13
  But in an era where we're seeing the portal and we're seeing NIL
• 1:06:18
  and more and more coaches are going towards filling their
• 1:06:22
  rosters with upperclassmen and guys that have been around now
• 1:06:26
  we're but we're kind of seeing it go the other way, the way it
• 1:06:29
  used to be, where all these freshmen are really the best
• 1:06:32
  players in a lot of these teams. Yeah, And to John Calipari's
• 1:06:39
  concern is now when you're going to start letting G League guys
• 1:06:43
  back in and you're going to start letting you know some guys
• 1:06:46
  that have had former NBA contracts back in to play
• 1:06:48
  college basketball. You said.
• 1:06:50
  Like the guy from the kid from Illinois that was ranked 246 in
• 1:06:53
  his class might not be going to Illinois.
• 1:06:56
  He might not be on this stage. Like he might not get the
• 1:06:58
  opportunity, you know, if, if things go the way that, that,
• 1:07:02
  that they're going and you know, there's like the, the, the legal
• 1:07:05
  issue going on in Alabama on, on if their kids should be eligible
• 1:07:09
  or not. So, you know, like, I love, I
• 1:07:12
  love to see the freshmen succeed.
• 1:07:13
  I think it's good for college basketball when freshmen succeed
• 1:07:18
  because you know, it's like they're college kids and it's,
• 1:07:20
  it's good to see that they're getting their opportunities.
• 1:07:22
  They're making the most of the opportunities.
• 1:07:24
  And you know, the whole issue of like eligibility of former
• 1:07:27
  professional athletes coming back is a whole separate issue.
• 1:07:29
  But I'd rather see these college kids succeed in a 27 year old
• 1:07:33
  coming out of the G League. No, I, yeah, I mean, we got, we
• 1:07:37
  got to figure this out. What's going on in Alabama right
• 1:07:40
  now? What's like, it's just, it's
• 1:07:42
  it's all a mess. But yeah, it's it's fun to
• 1:07:46
  watch. These freshmen are fun to watch.
• 1:07:49
  It's going to make for a really fun February and March as we get
• 1:07:53
  into the the heat of college basketball season.
• 1:07:55
  We, we can't move on from college basketball without
• 1:07:59
  mentioning the Miami, Ohio RedHawks, who remain undefeated.
• 1:08:03
  They beat UMass last night, They beat UMass last night and they
• 1:08:09
  are what, 21 and O now? And to be honest with you,
• 1:08:15
  they're going to be favored in the rest of their games.
• 1:08:18
  I mean, their last three games, overtime win against Buffalo,
• 1:08:21
  overtime win against Kent State, 2 point win against UMass,
• 1:08:24
  they're flirting with that first loss, but they're finding ways
• 1:08:27
  to get it done. Which is, which is all that
• 1:08:30
  matters, and. What's good for Travis Steele, I
• 1:08:33
  mean, gets let go from Xavier and then comes right into Miami
• 1:08:38
  of Ohio with this gets a second chance and and started around
• 1:08:42
  and he's proven he can coach. He's going to be one of those
• 1:08:45
  names at the end of the season. If this keeps up, he's going to
• 1:08:47
  be in line for another big time job.
• 1:08:49
  Their long win against Top Hunter and Adjustive Efficiency
• 1:08:54
  is Akron, but they're undefeated.
• 1:08:58
  They're undefeated and like I said, they'll be favored in the
• 1:09:01
  rest of their games. I think who was the one team it
• 1:09:06
  was Toledo looks like probably going to be their toughest test.
• 1:09:12
  But anytime like Rd. games in in Mac play are tough.
• 1:09:16
  So I would I would say they're probably not going to finish the
• 1:09:19
  season undefeated. But to get this far and still
• 1:09:23
  not have a a number on that second column is is pretty
• 1:09:27
  impressive. Yeah.
• 1:09:29
  I mean, when you're 20 and O, 21 and O, you've got things going
• 1:09:32
  the right direction. Like you said, they probably
• 1:09:34
  won't finish undefeated, but you know they're in line to where I
• 1:09:40
  mean, let's say that let's say that they go whatever in two and
• 1:09:44
  get knocked off in their conference championship game.
• 1:09:46
  You still got to put them in as an at large, right?
• 1:09:50
  Probably. Not no, not even in the Mac
• 1:09:54
  Mac's like it'd be a 2 bid league.
• 1:09:56
  Not with that non conference schedule.
• 1:10:00
  Yeah, maybe. One of the worst one of the
• 1:10:04
  worst non conference schedules in 362 out of 365.
• 1:10:10
  All right, Yeah, You're not getting in there.
• 1:10:11
  You better win your conference championship.
• 1:10:13
  Yeah, they they're still going to have to win it.
• 1:10:19
  Last week we talked about Brooks Kepka leaving live and come to
• 1:10:22
  the PGA Tour, Said would anybody follow Patrick Greed's
• 1:10:27
  following? It's going to take him a little
• 1:10:29
  longer because he didn't get that little exemption he's got.
• 1:10:32
  He's got to get it the hard way and he's going to play full time
• 1:10:35
  with the DP World Tour and try to get on qualify that way.
• 1:10:41
  Is this the end of the lift? Like are we slowly seeing the
• 1:10:45
  end of lift? It's brick by brick.
• 1:10:47
  It's starting to collapse. Yes.
• 1:10:49
  And you know, the, the big domino that I think could really
• 1:10:52
  the the Wrecking Ball that could knock the whole building down
• 1:10:54
  would be a Bryson coming back and maybe a John ROM.
• 1:10:59
  But Bryson would be the big domino that I think could really
• 1:11:02
  put the Wrecking Ball into the into the wall and and knock the
• 1:11:05
  whole building down South. Patrick Reed, Liv can keep them
• 1:11:11
  if they want them. But good for him, you know, I
• 1:11:13
  mean, if he wants to try to do it the hard way, you know, good
• 1:11:16
  for him. Like, well.
• 1:11:17
  He didn't get the other option. He didn't get an.
• 1:11:18
  Option. I know he doesn't have another
• 1:11:20
  option. The other option would be like,
• 1:11:22
  you know what I don't want? Like I'll just keep collecting
• 1:11:24
  this large paycheck, not have to do anything, not have to really
• 1:11:27
  put in any work and and just live a comfortable life.
• 1:11:30
  But he doesn't want that. He wants to earn his way back.
• 1:11:35
  You know, props to him for going out and trying to earn it like
• 1:11:37
  he wants to earn it. That's fine.
• 1:11:40
  Like his quote, I'm a traditionalist at heart and I
• 1:11:42
  was born to play on the PGA Tour.
• 1:11:44
  Well, three years ago when they threw you the bag, you, you were
• 1:11:49
  really quickly leaving the PGA Tour and.
• 1:11:53
  Him calling himself a traditionalist is just absurd.
• 1:11:55
  But. It's, it's all absurd and look,
• 1:12:00
  and all these PGA guys are saying the right things, but
• 1:12:05
  you're telling me there's not going to be a little bit about
• 1:12:07
  you that's upset that these guys went and got the bag where
• 1:12:11
  they're getting hundreds of millions of dollars and they
• 1:12:15
  just collect their check. And then three years later, like
• 1:12:19
  I'm a traditionalist of I belong in the PGA.
• 1:12:23
  No. If you were a traditionalist,
• 1:12:24
  you would have said no to the money like the real
• 1:12:27
  traditionalist on the PGA Tour did.
• 1:12:28
  But you didn't do that. And you would have played a golf
• 1:12:31
  tournament that requires 72 holes instead of 54.
• 1:12:36
  Yeah, I just. Traditionalist.
• 1:12:38
  Look, and I but I will say no, I am not a Patrick Green guy, but
• 1:12:43
  just like any sport, you do need villains and he is a villain to
• 1:12:47
  a lot of people. But I just think they took the
• 1:12:53
  money and now they're getting back in and Liv gave away all
• 1:12:59
  this money and they're going to have nothing to show for it here
• 1:13:02
  in a couple of years. Yeah, that's it's it's, it's a
• 1:13:11
  failed to me. It's going to be a failed
• 1:13:12
  product. Nobody watches it, nobody talks
• 1:13:14
  about it. You go to live, you get
• 1:13:17
  forgotten about. Kept go has been forgotten about
• 1:13:20
  for the last couple years. ROM Cam Smith, Dustin Johnson
• 1:13:25
  especially. Like all of these guys, nobody
• 1:13:27
  talks about you. Nobody watches you.
• 1:13:29
  I know you're collecting a big paycheck, but at the end of the
• 1:13:31
  day, nobody cares. Yeah, there's very few guys that
• 1:13:36
  live tour that that people do care about, but.
• 1:13:40
  Yeah. I don't think when, when Liv,
• 1:13:41
  when Liv started out on this venture, I don't think that they
• 1:13:45
  accomplished what they expected to accomplish, which was to be
• 1:13:49
  as good or better than the PGA Tour.
• 1:13:51
  They accomplished what they did by trying to getting some of the
• 1:13:53
  guys, but it was so expensive and it's not sustainable.
• 1:13:56
  But they got those guys, but they had to get those guys to be
• 1:13:59
  successful. They don't have those guys, then
• 1:14:01
  you're really not going to be successful.
• 1:14:02
  That was the only way that they had a chance.
• 1:14:04
  But they threw out so much money, and you can't do that
• 1:14:06
  again. You can't.
• 1:14:08
  You can't give Brooks $400 million again.
• 1:14:11
  You could. I mean, it's Saudi money.
• 1:14:13
  I think they have it. I think they can just reach it
• 1:14:15
  in their pockets and give. It to them they run out of money
• 1:14:17
  at some point. Do they?
• 1:14:19
  Do they? I don't know, but it's it's
• 1:14:22
  failed and now it's slowly collapsing and all these guys
• 1:14:26
  that left and took money and now they're coming back into PGA and
• 1:14:29
  everybody's applauding them. Like you still went and took the
• 1:14:31
  money like I'm, I'm not going to pull for those guys.
• 1:14:37
  No, I wouldn't have pulled for Patrick Reed or Brooks Kepka
• 1:14:41
  anyways. But.
• 1:14:43
  I don't hate Brooks. The PGA has their first.
• 1:14:46
  I would cheer for Brooks. The PGA has their first event of
• 1:14:49
  the year, the American Express, where they they're out in La
• 1:14:51
  Quinta, CA and Scotty just doing what Scotty does just.
• 1:14:58
  Wins. What he does 3 clear, 3 clear
• 1:15:00
  all whole day on Sunday. Was Rick in this tournament?
• 1:15:04
  Yeah. How'd Rick end up?
• 1:15:06
  Time for 18. That's not bad.
• 1:15:09
  Good for real. You take a top 20 for the first
• 1:15:12
  time of the year but Scotty just doing Scotty things and I guess
• 1:15:19
  the close the the name of the show is the height differential.
• 1:15:24
  Sure is. We got a little height
• 1:15:27
  differential between one person, one Diego Pavia's listed height
• 1:15:34
  during his college football career at six foot and Diego
• 1:15:38
  Pavia's measurement at the Senior Bowl, which was not quite
• 1:15:42
  6 foot, it was not quite 511, it was not quite 510.
• 1:15:48
  He came in at 5-9 and 7/8. And look dude, I ain't making
• 1:15:52
  fun of you because I would love to be 5/9 and 7/8.
• 1:15:58
  But yeah. Close to 3 inches, that's a big
• 1:16:00
  deal. Yeah, you want to try to shave
• 1:16:02
  an inch, an inch or two and you know, not even to it.
• 1:16:05
  If you want to try to to up an inch, you might get away with
• 1:16:08
  that. You won't get away with three
• 1:16:10
  inches or over 3 inches. And I mean, that's one thing
• 1:16:14
  that you you can't lie about and get away with is, is your height
• 1:16:17
  Like when you go to the combine, when you go to the Senior Bowl,
• 1:16:20
  when you go to work out for teams, they're going to take
• 1:16:22
  your measurements. And if you're 3 inches different
• 1:16:26
  than what you were listed at in college, like you, you're not
• 1:16:29
  going to be able to get away with it.
• 1:16:30
  They're going to be some questions.
• 1:16:31
  Be like, bro, this is this ain't just an inch.
• 1:16:34
  Like what are you doing? Well, I will say like working in
• 1:16:38
  the industry and working for a college basketball team, like
• 1:16:40
  there never is a time when they get on campus to where you're
• 1:16:44
  measuring them and you're seeing what their height is.
• 1:16:47
  For the most part, you trust what their number was when they
• 1:16:50
  get there. So they're listed at a height
• 1:16:54
  when they come and that's usually what you roll with.
• 1:16:56
  You don't adjust it. But dude 3.
• 1:16:59
  But did he not expect to get measured again before the NFL?
• 1:17:04
  I mean I I think I need to start putting like 5-4 on the dating
• 1:17:08
  apps. It's going to give me more
• 1:17:12
  looks. I mean, to be honest, you think
• 1:17:14
  a girl's going to notice the difference between 5 four and
• 1:17:17
  5251? 54 and 410.
• 1:17:20
  Yeah, there's, there's this half a foot, surprisingly enough.
• 1:17:24
  Depends on it depends on if you get a well educated girl or not
• 1:17:28
  educated girl. They're going to be a little
• 1:17:32
  educated. You want to tell it?
• 1:17:35
  You want to be able to tell the difference of 6 inches, huh?
• 1:17:37
  Yeah. 6 inches, but yeah, I just, it's going to affect.
• 1:17:46
  I don't know how high he was going to get drafted anyways.
• 1:17:50
  I just, he's got a little Napoleon complex.
• 1:17:54
  I think the way that he's kind of acted after the season and I
• 1:17:59
  mean. Was he asked about this
• 1:18:01
  discrepancy in his height? Do they do interviews down
• 1:18:03
  there? Let's see, yeah, my side.
• 1:18:09
  Let's see, he said. Yeah, My size has been doubted
• 1:18:11
  my whole life. I feel like the only thing the
• 1:18:13
  NFL cares about is can you win? And I view myself as a winner.
• 1:18:16
  I've been fortunate with all these great teams that I've had.
• 1:18:18
  We've never had a losing season. So that's something to look
• 1:18:21
  forward to. I hope for the rest of my career
• 1:18:23
  that's how it's going to be. I feel like God bless me in so
• 1:18:26
  many ways to be a connector. And I feel like that's one of my
• 1:18:29
  superpowers that I've got. I can connect, reunite, and then
• 1:18:33
  once you unite, you want to play for one another.
• 1:18:36
  And once you've got, once you give 120% effort, there's no one
• 1:18:40
  that can stop your team. That's basically what I said.
• 1:18:45
  OK, good answer. So he didn't say I'm I'm 3
• 1:18:51
  inches shorter. I'm just going to quit.
• 1:18:53
  He he didn't do that. He's he's going to, he's going
• 1:18:55
  to plug on and. Try to He wasn't like, yeah,
• 1:18:57
  guys, I'm sorry I lied in college.
• 1:18:59
  I wanted to be taller than I was.
• 1:19:01
  I wanted that. Six in the.
• 1:19:04
  Front. I feel it, dude.
• 1:19:08
  I wanted the five in the front. I just never got there.
• 1:19:11
  Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know if I've got
• 1:19:18
  anything else for you. I was, I was going to talk a
• 1:19:21
  little bit about how ESPN has run the NBA pregame show, but I
• 1:19:27
  think we can get in that next week.
• 1:19:28
  Let's just, you never know when it's on, like when it was on
• 1:19:31
  TNT, you know exactly when it was on every single week.
• 1:19:35
  Now they just sprinkle it. They want, they don't, they take
• 1:19:37
  weeks off. They're running what was one of
• 1:19:40
  the better things in sports. I mean, nothing will be better
• 1:19:43
  than NBA on TNT. They brought all those guys with
• 1:19:47
  them. That's why they brought them to
• 1:19:48
  ESPN. They wanted to continue that and
• 1:19:51
  they've killed it. It's not killed because it's
• 1:19:54
  when you when it's on, it's still good.
• 1:19:56
  You just there's no consistency. They take times off.
• 1:19:59
  With TNT, you knew exactly when it was going to be on every
• 1:20:01
  single week. You tuned in to watch it
• 1:20:03
  regardless of what the games were after.
• 1:20:05
  Now we're on Wednesday sometimes.
• 1:20:06
  Sometimes they're on that, sometimes they're not on at all.
• 1:20:09
  Even Charles Barkley's complaining about it.
• 1:20:12
  I said we'd hold off till next week and now we've pretty much
• 1:20:14
  said everything I wanted to say next week so.
• 1:20:18
  Rants with Nick. It's all I got it.
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  It isn't because it is one of the it's one of the staples in
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  sports and we we don't talk a ton of NBA here, but it's one of
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  the IT is the best free game show for for any.
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  Has been for a while, yeah. And everybody thought ESPN was
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  going to get it. They're going to run it.
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  And they have. How much has your boy MJ been on
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  the NBC studio? He did one interview like he did
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  one interview. They paid him like $40 million
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  and they're going to sprinkle that one interview throughout
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  the whole season. But they were talking about him
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  being a part of it. Right.
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  They they did that one interview and they're just going to show
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  bits. And pieces and he has like, he's
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  not live in studio at all like that.
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  Was that? I don't think that's the plan.
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  That sucks. I don't know, I'd be honest I
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  have not watched the ten NBA other than Bulls games.
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  I mean, I'll start watching it more now that football's over,
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  NF LS over, you know, when there's not much to watch on a
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  Wednesday. Friday night, NBA will be on.
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  But LeBron went to Cleveland tonight and a lot of people
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  saying it might be the last time he's in Cleveland.
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  So ESPN was there. They actually had the pregame
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  show, which I'm just flipping channels and happened to see
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  that Chuck and Kenny Smith and and Shaq and Ernie are on.
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  And I'm like didn't even know, didn't even know.
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  And that's what maybe think wanted to talk about it, but.
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  Glad you could get that off your chest before you went to bed
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  tonight, I mean. You understand what I'm saying?
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  I understand what you're saying, yeah.
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  media so you can see all the shorts.
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  We we cut all this stuff up so you don't have to watch the
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  whole thing. Yeah, good luck.
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  Get out of your driveway tomorrow.
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  We're going, we're going to figure it out.
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  We're going to figure it out because it is never going to be
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  warm enough for this stuff to melt.
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  We got we got a whiles to go before that.
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  I mean, you got about enough about as much snow in your
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  driveway as Diego Pavia. Missing height?
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  Inches. That's true.
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  That's true. But for the 66 nil, I'm the 410.
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  Nick, give us an high differential.
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  We'll talk to you next week. Give