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Drew Brees On Journey From Purdue To Saints + Zack Baun On Eagles Super Bowl & Skattebo | Bussin' · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 3: Big guests today, Drew Brees, Zach Bond, We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: those in a minute.
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  Speaker 4: Former teammate, former teammate. If you're yeah, yeah, talk to
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  Speaker 4: me about your time, Drew, We rock for good. We
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  Speaker 4: had a strong ten days.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of times after practice I'll go
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  Speaker 4: trying to make some conversation with him. He's taking some
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  Speaker 4: business calls. We'll catch you later. Yeah, we'll talk shop later.
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  Speaker 3: But the effort was put in there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, effort was put in there. Yeah. Yeah. We
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  Speaker 4: enjoyed some hot a couple of hot tub moments I
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  Speaker 4: had with him and taste. I'm thinking, Drew Brees, you're
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  Speaker 4: in there. Got a couple of laughs. One of the
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  Speaker 4: one of the days they were talking about or we
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  Speaker 4: were talking about how Taysom Hill could squat like over
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  Speaker 4: six hundred pounds, which is, did you insane? I I
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  Speaker 4: haven't got see it because we were in we were
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  Speaker 4: in we were in training camp. You know, Brian back
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  Speaker 4: into training camp too.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But everybody was talking about how Taysom Hill could squad
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  Speaker 4: over six hundred punds And I'm sitting there like that
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  Speaker 4: is that is insane for him, all the positions he plays.
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  Speaker 4: JP said it maybe the greatest athlete, maybe the greatest
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  Speaker 4: football player, pure football player of all time. Uh, but
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  Speaker 4: the squad over six hundred pounds is ridiculous, disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the origin story these ten days
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  Speaker 3: is when your back started.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, No, my back started Raiders. That was later that
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  Speaker 4: year year.
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  Speaker 3: So you're sitting there at the time thinking, man, I
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  Speaker 3: just put some win on my back to take some hill.
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  Speaker 3: If you can do six, I can at least three hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I could get three hundred at that time, easy.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe four? Yeah, I could get four.
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  Speaker 3: If you're if you were going and you did a
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  Speaker 3: full warm up, core engage the whole thing Dobson would
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  Speaker 3: do with the legs. How much do you think you
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  Speaker 3: could squat.
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  Speaker 4: Right now today? Oh, I wouldn't. Okay, hypothetically, I'm saying
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't, like I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because your back would be fucked up the next day.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, totally warmed up, hypothetical, what can your
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  Speaker 3: legs handle today?
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  Speaker 4: Once?
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  Speaker 3: Ten times?
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  Speaker 4: Bro Like, my back hurts when there's a bar on
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  Speaker 4: my back, Like I it doesn't matter how warmed up
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  Speaker 4: I get. There is pain in my low back when
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  Speaker 4: there's a bar on my shoulders.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry for asking the question.
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  Speaker 4: You kept trying to reward it like I'm just supersing
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  Speaker 4: no matter what different world it hurts. I'm a goblet squader.
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  Speaker 4: I hold a dumb bell in front of my chest.
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  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, seventy pounds.
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  Speaker 3: Oh see, big dog stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Some would yeah, some could say big dogs. Some
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  Speaker 4: could say like, man, he's really fell off because in
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  Speaker 4: Nebraska I was over five hundred. I was an over
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  Speaker 4: five hundred guy.
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  Speaker 3: Now we are shooting the Bus with the Boys episode
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  Speaker 3: before we'd their weekend recap, so we're not really into
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  Speaker 3: the whole Nebraska. I think we haven't got your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on it. Should we wait?
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  Speaker 4: No, it's just a weekend recap. We're gonna wait for
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  Speaker 4: people out here that are listening right now. Obviously, my
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  Speaker 4: weekend kicked off with the Nebraska el on Friday night.
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  Speaker 4: You can check all that stuff out. We covered it
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  Speaker 4: on the football recap show that came out yesterday. We
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  Speaker 4: talked all things football on the recap show that drops
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  Speaker 4: on Mondays. Here we're here for some more fun, get
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  Speaker 4: some good interviews, talk some spooky stuff, catch up in
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  Speaker 4: the old Chad Powers, maybe some shout out, no free shoutouts,
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  Speaker 4: some pet peeves feel has been begging for those segments
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  Speaker 4: to come back. The tier talk we have going on.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, how was let's start off. Let's go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and start. You wanna start with my weekend? Your weekend?
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  Speaker 3: What do we go ahead? Youre already talking.
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  Speaker 4: Listen. We all saw what happened Friday night. We talked
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  Speaker 4: about that yesterday, and.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about it again.
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  Speaker 4: There we go again. We ain't gotta talking about it.
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  Speaker 4: We're all eyes on Northwestern and.
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  Speaker 3: We'll say this too, could be a positive long term
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  Speaker 3: for Nebraska.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right, I'm thinking about Northwestern, got you so.
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  Speaker 3: For us on this bus that's not thinking about Northwestern
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  Speaker 3: could be a positive. But time about the weekend, dude,
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  Speaker 3: Vanda game fans.
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  Speaker 4: Great, it was a It was a great weekend. Weirdly, weird, fun, great,
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  Speaker 4: all mixed together. Saturday, we went to uh myself, Charrow
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  Speaker 4: and Rue. We went to the Vandy game. We went
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  Speaker 4: to the Fall Don't Light Tour with Josh pat They
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  Speaker 4: were out there at Vanderbilt for Vandy LSU and I
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  Speaker 4: told you, guys, I said this yesterday, but I've been
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  Speaker 4: I've been telling everybody that LSU was a bunch of frauds.
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  Speaker 4: And we got to see it in person. We got
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  Speaker 4: to see it in real time. Cad McConnell. That clip
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  Speaker 4: of Cad mcconne going around where he body bags a
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  Speaker 4: couple of guys.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But we had a lot of fun. Got to meet
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  Speaker 4: Josh Pate's wife, Savannah, just a wonderful person. Had a
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  Speaker 4: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Rue.
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  Speaker 4: She's still out on mascots, doesn't fuck with him and
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  Speaker 4: Tiger tried coming up and messing with her. I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: are their pay of little stuffed animals a tiger? She
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  Speaker 4: calls him Tiger and I'm like, hey, Tiger, there's there's
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  Speaker 4: Tiger's big brother right there, Like he wants a high five.
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  Speaker 4: And stuff like that, and Rude's stoneface like just like
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  Speaker 4: you know, slowly looks over at me like that, what
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  Speaker 4: am I supposed to do here? I'm like, hey, she
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  Speaker 4: ain't about it, She ain't about the Yeah, she's not
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  Speaker 4: about the mascots situat Yeah, yeah, you want to get
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  Speaker 4: my high five, you know how you're like demonstrating it
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  Speaker 4: in front of her, like, hey, he's good people, She's
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  Speaker 4: not having it. Wasn't about it, And that.
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  Speaker 3: Is one of my kid's fault, that your child has
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  Speaker 3: that fear.
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  Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, yeah, she's scared of masks. She's scared of mascots,
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  Speaker 4: like anything that's a little too big or demonstrative. She's
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  Speaker 4: not about it. The Michael Myers is really what tipped
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  Speaker 4: her over sideways on finding that mask back in the
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  Speaker 4: closet and then yeah, and just popping up in front
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  Speaker 4: of her face with the mask.
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  Speaker 3: How to train your dragon masks? It just gets in
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  Speaker 3: her face and starts pushing it around. It was over.
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  Speaker 3: It was over from that moment. And yeah, we're will
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  Speaker 3: and I are sending the bean bags. I'm just like
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  Speaker 3: gotta feel guilty. My child. Ain't nothing you can do,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, being kids, right, when's done it to her sister,
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  Speaker 3: she kind of just takes it in. We're all about
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  Speaker 3: the spookiness in this household. But go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: We had a We had a great day at Vanderbilt.
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  Speaker 4: Shout out to staff at Vanderbilt. They did a great
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  Speaker 4: job hosting us. We had all some seats, we had
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  Speaker 4: some pre game field passes. Sunday, Bill Compton is now married.
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  Speaker 4: My dad got married, So we made a we made
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  Speaker 4: a trip out there. Saturday night. We had a stream.
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  Speaker 4: This was on Sunday, Saturday night. We had a stream Tennessee, Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll get into that once we get the
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  Speaker 4: boys involved. But Sunday flew out. Old man got married.
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  Speaker 4: Uh so got to make it, you know, got to
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  Speaker 4: go out there Old Farmington, bond Ter, Missouri, see some
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  Speaker 4: friendly faces, some some familiar faces, and then we flew back.
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  Speaker 4: Puked on the plane. That was abysmal. I'm talking Team
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  Speaker 4: America Exorcism style. Oh shit, I almost started puking. It smelled, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was. She she she like she was like leaning
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  Speaker 4: back and then she puked on herself and we're like
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  Speaker 4: it's okay, and then she just starts puking in the
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  Speaker 4: middle and it's everywhere. Yeah, you know, Charles trying to
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  Speaker 4: say it's all right, sweetheart, I'm going, oh my.
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  Speaker 3: God, this is a couple's retreat. When Vince Bond's with
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  Speaker 3: this kid and he poops in the toilet and he goes,
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  Speaker 3: we don't got to say nothing to the flight attendant.
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  Speaker 4: We know this was a bad deal. Yeah, this one
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  Speaker 4: smells everywhere. It's brutal. Fly back that day and then
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  Speaker 4: take the wife. We go to Dermot Kennedy concert. Any
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  Speaker 4: Dermot Kennedy fans on this bus. I know of him,
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  Speaker 4: great artist. Oh hang on, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 5: One of the first times we met, you were like,
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  Speaker 5: of course you're trying to clown on me and you
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  Speaker 5: were playing your music. He were like, I bet this
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  Speaker 5: is the type of shit you like. And you turned
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  Speaker 5: on Durmke Kennedy.
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  Speaker 4: He stays on the playlist.
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  Speaker 5: He's good.
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  Speaker 4: Charles was obsessed with Dermot Kennedy. I've always liked her
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  Speaker 4: mott and getting to watch him in person, it was
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  Speaker 4: it was all time, very powerful, very powerful voice. At
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  Speaker 4: the Riemann he started to do some uh you know
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  Speaker 4: where they'll like take the mic away and he's just
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  Speaker 4: singing to the crowd, like both of the artists, the
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  Speaker 4: guy who covered for him halfway are then not the
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  Speaker 4: guy who went out who opened for him, not covered
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  Speaker 4: for him, open for him. Both of them did. Like
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  Speaker 4: the acoustic version where they're singing to the crowd, very intimate.
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  Speaker 4: It was awesome. He's awesome. Dermot Kennedy was awesome and
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, very jam packed weekend, very fun weekend all
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  Speaker 4: in all, four point five nice. Yeah, all right, not bad, ye,
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  Speaker 4: not bad.
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  Speaker 3: My weekend phenomenal. Well, obviously we do the stream Thursday
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  Speaker 3: night wake up. Early last year before the Northwestern game,
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  Speaker 3: I took a win to a Michion game, her first
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  Speaker 3: Mission game. We did the whole thing like it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's a true brainwashing experience when you do with your children,
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  Speaker 3: because it's like you land, there's no nose on the weekend,
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  Speaker 3: it's you want candy, go ahead, Yes, we go to Benny's.
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  Speaker 3: Benny's there. He's like Albanian or something, but he's all
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  Speaker 3: about letting the kids do. He's like got the kids
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  Speaker 3: in the back room, like making their own pancakes, making
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  Speaker 3: their own hot chocolate. He's just bringing out food over
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  Speaker 3: and over again. He's bringing out like shots of like
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  Speaker 3: scotch that he's got in the back. It's like, this
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  Speaker 3: is a diner, Denny, Like, Benny, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 3: So the same thing takes place this weekend. Willow is
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  Speaker 3: juiced up, like five six days before. I'm showing her
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  Speaker 3: all the things we're gonna do. I'm pulling up photos
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  Speaker 3: of the m Den, I'm pulling up photos of the
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  Speaker 3: diag all that, like the central campus area. And she's like,
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  Speaker 3: can't sleep two nights before, can't sleep the night before
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  Speaker 3: we get on the plane. She's fired up, just me
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  Speaker 3: and her and we land. Dave was essentially our chauffeur
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  Speaker 3: for the entire weekend. We go in the first place
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  Speaker 3: we go to is Benny's. Get right there, you guys
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  Speaker 3: all been there. We go around the corner, Yeah, sitting
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  Speaker 3: that back booth. Benny's got Willow making her own hot
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  Speaker 3: hot chocolate. He brings out pancakes, brings out hot dogs,
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  Speaker 3: brings out this little cheese plate that he sets on
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  Speaker 3: fire in front of Willow like it's a five star
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  Speaker 3: Michelin Michelin star restaurant and it was awesome. Will stuffs
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  Speaker 3: her face. Then we go to vm Den and Willow
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  Speaker 3: was when I'm looking at Sugar the Mden photos earlier
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  Speaker 3: in the week, she sees a cheerleading outfit and she
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  Speaker 3: is gassed up on the cheerleading off it. She like
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  Speaker 3: she wants it, she needs it as bad as she
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  Speaker 3: wants to breathe. So we get there. They don't have
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  Speaker 3: her size, and it's like We've gotten the stuffed animals.
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  Speaker 3: We got Mama mug, we got Sissia mug, we got
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  Speaker 3: key chains, we got the whole thing, like everything's Michigan
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  Speaker 3: Wolf Rain. But if we don't get this fucking cheerleading outfit,
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  Speaker 3: essentially this weekend is ruined. We go in the back,
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  Speaker 3: some guy helps us out, We sift through, we find
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  Speaker 3: this seven and eight. We get this onesie dress thing
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  Speaker 3: that is that is like the cheerleading off it. She
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  Speaker 3: is over the moon immediately as soon as we buy it.
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  Speaker 3: Can I wear it? Can I wear? It's like, let's
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  Speaker 3: just wait till tomorrow because it's kind of chilling. I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Willow is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: able to wear this during the game and not be freezing.
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  Speaker 3: Turns out of a seventy five degrees. It was absolutely beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: After that, Pat Collin, friend of us. We go to
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  Speaker 3: his house, do s'mores, We do a little bonfire. We
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  Speaker 3: got spooky stuff everywhere. We got seasonal beverages, very nice, intimate,
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  Speaker 3: like spooky, his wife, both kids, Willow, it was awesome,
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  Speaker 3: bags of candy. And then the next day get the
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  Speaker 3: outfit on. I'm looking at the weather. It's like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be good. Willow does not care about watching
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  Speaker 3: the football game at all, could not care less. We're
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline. She's asked me where the cheerleaders? Like
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  Speaker 3: when are the cheerleaders gonna be here?
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  Speaker 4: Gotta go get the flame?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, got and so we got a bunch of photos.
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  Speaker 3: First cheerleaders pop up. I'm like, guys, can you please
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  Speaker 3: take a photo of my daughter? They give her the
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  Speaker 3: pom poms. They're very sweet to her. Willow is grinning
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  Speaker 3: ear to ear on it. And as we're going around
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  Speaker 3: to get our seats, some Stafford, because Willow's under eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: obviously like, hey, she can't be down here if she's
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  Speaker 3: under eighteen. So we near your seats. While we're going there,
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  Speaker 3: Stafford sees some more cheerleaders. Willows like, we're not going
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  Speaker 3: anywhere to get photos with these guys as well, get
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  Speaker 3: the photo done, get up in the stands. We end
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  Speaker 3: up sitting in like gen pop area, which is the
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  Speaker 3: view is nice because we're like twenty five rows back
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  Speaker 3: so I can see the whole field. I can see
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  Speaker 3: what kind of personnel we're in. I'm like dialed in.
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  Speaker 3: Problem is a lot of people want to get photos,
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  Speaker 3: want to talk about anything other than Michigan football that's
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  Speaker 3: going on, anything else with Will there, with Willow there,
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to get photos. I'm like, a right, will
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  Speaker 3: you stand by grandpa.
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  Speaker 4: For a second. People were like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: like kind of see, kind of be like, hey, just
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  Speaker 4: quick photo. I expect what you do.
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  Speaker 3: And with eighty percent of the people were very aware
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  Speaker 3: of well, hey, I know you're.
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  Speaker 4: With your family.
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  Speaker 3: You might if I get a quick photo and I
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  Speaker 3: get the quick photo, They're like, so man, espn huh yeah, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's sick. We have a lot of fun and we
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  Speaker 3: go to the expert. So, man, how's will doing? Is
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  Speaker 3: he dead? It's like, yeah, I think I think he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be like text him last night. He didn't text
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  Speaker 3: me back, but I know that's the sad right now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so like those are the conversations taking place.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's like I'm sitting in these stands and I'm
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  Speaker 3: trying to watch a football game. Will it wants a pretzel? Great,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get a pretzel. Will it wants popcorn? Grandpa will
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  Speaker 3: take you to get some popcorn. Well, like you guys
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  Speaker 3: will dial it in. Finally, I sit there and I
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  Speaker 3: think my phone. I'm like, you want to play some
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  Speaker 3: you want to look at Addy's photos on this camera?
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  Speaker 3: And I had to give her. I had to put
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  Speaker 3: the phone on her so I could watch the game.
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  Speaker 3: Look back at these this older couple. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 3: is great parenting, am I right? They're like anyway to
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  Speaker 3: get it done. And we watched the game the first half.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we broke it all down in the weekend recap,
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  Speaker 3: but overall four point five man Sunday, Yeah, Sunday, I
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  Speaker 3: get home. We get home Saturday night. Do we do
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  Speaker 3: this stream Sunday? Tayling has a for nature nurture. She
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: has like this farmer's market and she takes the kids
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: does like you know, child labor laws. We probably get
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: see an s called on us. She has them audishing
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: out seeds to everybody, and the kids sold like two
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars in seeds, so yeah.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they'd Taylor texted me.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: She's like, I just told the kids to take these
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: seeds and ask people to buy them, and it worked.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Sold out, sold out of the seeds. So shout out
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Tailing and her business savvy.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not really selling any seeds. You know what,
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: we got to activate the kid out right, We activated
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: get out there, started going go ask go ass adults
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: to buy them. They won't say know to.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: You, dude. When I was eight, my mom used to
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: work at this place called Harold's in Cave Creek and
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: she wanted to teach me the value of a dollar.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: So I bust boyed with her for a day, made
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: like two hundred dollars, and that day just sat there
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: and talked to the older people. So in the middle
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: of winter, so all the snowbirds were there. Didn't understand
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: the value. After that, I was like, eat money's easy.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: Money's a joke, dude. This is the easiest thing in
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: the world to get eight years old. My homes like,
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: god damn it, but yeah, man, awesome weekend next weekend.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: First time ever kids are going to disney World. That'd
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: be fine gooing at disney World.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Next Fast Spookie season.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing the same thing we did at the
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: We got the tour guide for the like at the
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Pro Bowl, where it's like they kind of you get
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: to hop there's like the fast past above the fast past,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: that's above the fast pass thing. And then we got
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse's Not So Spooky Halloween kids are I'm so excited.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I might be more excited than them. They don't understand
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: what they're about to see. It's gonna be awesome. So
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: action packs, spooktober Core, Memory Weekend Loading, Yes, absolutely. Two
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: For Willow in a row, we're getting on the plane
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: to go back. She's like, when can we come back
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to Michigan and then she keeps saying this bullshit to me. Honest,
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: it's a miracle Michigan one.
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: What do you mean?
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: She's I just can't believe we won. I'm like, all right, Willo.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: But we get home and win. Wanted to rewatch the game,
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: the highlights, so we put it up on the YouTube
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: TV like kids are dialed right now.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: The Yeah, we're definitely brainwashing the shit out of him
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: right now. It's all Yeah, it's going exactly how he want. Sure,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: it's going exactly how you want.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I might have to make I just until the
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: opportunity comes, like rude. Now has been two years in
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: a row to Vandy games, Vandy dubbs. Wait was it
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: a double last year against Texas? Close loss? That's right?
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Competitive ball games in Vandy. Ye, yeah, diego Pavia. Her
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: favorite player, Kate McConnell.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kate McConnell, for sure.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: Kate.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I hated you know, I know he listens to all
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: of our stuff, so I know he's listening right now.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: But we were bummed we didn't get a flick. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: was in on the end zone side, but it was
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: LSU and we kind of got there fifteen minutes before
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: the game. Send me up after. He's like, bro, I
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: literally He's like, I looked everywhere and I couldn't find you,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: and I I kind of told him. He said, they
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: told me you were going to be on the newly
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: renovated in. I was like, no, I was on the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: OG and he's like, I probably looked like an insane
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: person going around. He's like, after we won the game
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: where we like scored a touch on. He's like, I'm
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: going up and looking around everywhere to see if we
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: can I can find you because I knew you were
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: bringing the fan.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Damn I know.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: I said, don't worry, we'll come to another game.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: We got to get to his face, well about what
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: going to another game? Well, we can probably make another game.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: They got a couple, they got some more. They got
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: a game day this weekend. One of my best friends,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Brad Lebron. You guys know the Biscuit, He's getting married.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Brad.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: But also but also yeah, football season wedding and it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, and it's in New York. Yes, listen, it's
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: his day. They should be selfish. But what a selfish
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: prick move.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: I feel like you've been screwed on a lot of
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Sunday weddings.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, bro, I mean this will be two in a row. Yeah,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I'm oh, man like, hey, I listen, I get it,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: but you I ain't want to come to this Sunday.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah on a Sunday. I'll miss is some football right now, dude, I.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Know everyone's always talks about the weather. It's like spring
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: has the same thing. They got the same weather.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Is super nice. It's just in the Missouri one didn't
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: didn't bother me as much because it's it's close. But
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: New York when you're you know you're from Missouri. I
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: guess she's out from the northeast. But Jesus, why are
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: we doing it out in New York? And they got married,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: they got engaged and stuff not too long ago, like
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: they put it together fast.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Brad lea broad you have it himself a wedding in Salem,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: New York. Yeah, yeah, pretty incredible love love Brad great
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: got the biscuit. He he shot me a text with
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: love if you came. Blah blah blah. I'm not gonna
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: be able to make it. Disney World, Disney World, Disney World.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Will and I sat in the play and I was like,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel bad. I'm not gonna make He
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: say you ain't gotta go, and he's like, pissed off
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: about you and gotta go. That's like one of my
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: best friends. I have to go self.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Brad Well, it was more Yeah I did say that,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: but I'm also thinking, like, yeah, in your situation, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: wouldn't I wouldn't go.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I do love Brad though, and I know that, like
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I know Brad's personality, and so like I just would
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I know that the next time I see Brad, He's
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: gonna say something the next time and the next time
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and the next time, and it'll follow me for a
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: few years. Yeah, And I just think, like, yeah, I'm
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with those bullets because my family
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and I were gonna go to Disney World. Yeah, great guy,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'll get him a gift. I probably won't get him
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: a gift, but I'll text him, Hey, congratulations on your
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: on your marriage. That's amazing.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Should we get into uh tear talk? Do we want
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: shout outs? Pet peas? Where we want to go?
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Let's bring back shout out real quick.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Shout out, no free shout out, Yeah, I uh.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Do you mind? Go ahead shout out, no free shout out,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: pilot Bob shout out, no free shout out. Pilots that
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: you think, no matter what happens, I'm safe. The pilot
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: we had from being a to titoborough thank you, Thank
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you fly House and JJ at Flyhouse. This guy gets on.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: He's old, he's probably what in the seventies. Yeah, he's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: got over thirty thousand hours of flying. I think he
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: was in Vietnam.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Two tours in Vietnam, four tours in Afghanistan boom, and
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: he's just generational.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Flight face talks to us. He's one of those calm stoic,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: like you know, older gentlemen that just like make you
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: feel safe no matter what we get done. We fly
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: in at Teeterborough, goes a little windy out there, but
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: now now the the risky part happens. You guys have
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to drive like he just knows like flying he is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: it does not matter what happens on that airplane. He's
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: gonna take care of business when we get back. Dude,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: He's like, hey, glad to have you guys back. He
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: starts showing me his mother was a World War two
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: pilot who was one of the only women World War
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: two pilots who would take bombs and try to take
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: out submarines and fly like really low. She's like, she's
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: this is the only woman pilot to do this, like
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Medal of honor type stuff like it was. This is
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: as we're getting on the flight to come back to Nashville,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and so you sit there and I always usually fall
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: asleep on flights anyway, but there's always a PCU. That's
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: like what if? And then you're no, I'm not gonna
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: go there, and you go to sleep. This was one
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: of those things where it's at the blanket put over
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: my head and knocked out for pretty much your entire flight.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: You said he has thirty thousand hours.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: He said, he yeah, because I remember saying, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: you're an outlier three times over, and he's like.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's over three years of life.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Of Yeah, that's just he gets in the air. He
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: loves me in the air.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: You could tell what we're on ground. It's like you
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: see someone with their sea legs. He won't really, he didn't.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: He's got air legs.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: He spent three He's like, spent three years of his
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: life in air, Which.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? Just crazy? Shout out no free, shout
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: out gushers man, Hell, yeah, you know what. Yeah, got
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: my hands on some red gushers yesterday. I kind of
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: saw him. I kind of saw him. I gave him
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: a pack. That's actually I think that's probably why she
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: ended up throwing up. But I was like, hey, rude,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: this is one of the dead's favorite snacks. Back in
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: the day, we got you some gushers, go ahead, try
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you out some of those so shout out, uh, shout
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: out gushers, shout out no free shutdow.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Would you get your hands some gushers at this wedding
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: were they so just on.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: The plane's nats on the plane and.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah what a plane?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: What everyone at flyhouse? You flyhouse?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: The only way to make it like we had the
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: stream on Saturday night we had we were having We
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: don't have a childcare, so we had to take the
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: kids with us. If you're flying in from Nashville to
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Saint Louis, it was gonna be that's an hour away
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: from uh where the wedding would be. The flights didn't
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: work on flying out the morning of without like a
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: without like a connecting flight, and it's like you got
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: to take both kids with you for and we needed
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: to get back for the Dermok Kennedy concert that we
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: had booked forever trying to go to London in the summer.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: We just couldn't make it happen. She's actually going to
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: London this week with Rue on a mother daughter trip.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: They're going for like five days in London. They leave.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: We're recording on Monday, they leave tonight, but we were
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: going to go to London and see Dermock Kennedy in London,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: And since we couldn't make that work, I'm looking on
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: my phone to see if he comes through Nashville. All
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: just so happen as he was coming to the Rhyman,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: you know, at that point in the summer, he's coming
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: to Ryman in October. I got those tickets. Wedding thing happened.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: Didn't want to break my wife's heart by being like,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: we can't go to Dermot Kennedy because I was like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: we will go to Dermot Kennedy if we don't go
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: to London, because I was like trying not to go
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: to London for seventy two hours. I'm like, sweet, I listen, that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Is crazy to go somewhere for seventy two hours.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I know it would be fun.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I know, just the two of us, YadA YadA, But like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: come on, we can, we can, we can do something
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: closer so that way we get more time at said place.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Right then spending half the time in the air, that's
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: sixteen hours in the air. So then when I was
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: in that kind of pickle, just had to make it
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: happen Flywers. I hit up Clump. I was like, hey,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: can you see what can I get a couple of
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: quotes for like just a day trip in and out
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: because you know, go to the wedding. I'm pump for
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: my dad, but there's you know, Willie Boy's going through
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: his own journey with this process and everything else. I
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: want to get back so I can still go to
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: the concert. Couldn't leave that night of because we had
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the stream Tennessee, Alabama, so kind of caught in a
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: pickle problem solved shout shut out house. That is how nice.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: It was shaky because it was very windy yesterday. We
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: were on a turboprop is that what it's called turbo?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: A beachcraft? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So it was shaky. It
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: was dicey, buddy. When I Charle was down going down
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: like a web MD wormhole, like she was looking up
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: these pilots the experience, and I'm like, pilots, but it's
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: easy these pilots have. But just going down the GBT,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, going down that snake cole of like
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: what's the risk? And the thirty mile an hour winds
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: because there were gusts. Yesterday it was raining and gusts
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: were happening in Nashville. A lot of wind and gusts
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: in Missouri where we were going. She's like, do you
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: feel confident. I was like, yeah, I feel confident. We
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: took a we took a small little plane from here
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to Bend. Her name snow and everything. It was snow
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: and everything else.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Dude that said, I might have been the same time
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: of year when I came to see you in Missouri
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a few years back, and I was on that flight.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: And then there's that little airport. They can't you can't.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: You have to take a small plane to.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: A small plane. And the dude on the way back, well,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I'm getting thrown over there, but I'm the only guy
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: on the plane. I'm like, this is exactly when people die. Yeah,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: this is on one hundred percent when people go down. Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: no bags, just like I gotta get back to Nashville
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: because I'm still playing football at the time. And the
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: dude looks back and gives me the thumbs up. I'm like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I guess we're straight.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: And you look out the window and it is moving
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: like as we're landing in Missouri, like it's moving and
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: going a little sideways where I'm staying poised. But internally
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, because my Charles over there breathing
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: like all this stuff. She's like, we're taking our entire
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: family and we're gonna be on a small plane. She's
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: getting super nervous. I'm like, we got only a couple option, sweetheart, Like, uh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: we're either on the plane and we all go. You
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: can stay home. I truly doesn't bother me, and I
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: can just go by myself. I know you're probably thing
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: in your head, well what if you die and then
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: we're all because I'm thinking we'll all go down as
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a family. At least we all go down to.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that might be kind of
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: a wind, right or when these kids are pretty young,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: that's really sad, but like.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Both parents, Yeah, yeah, well, don't.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: We all just take the take the drink together, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: take the coolie together, and just fucking get out of here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: You know, or we cancel it and we gotta spend
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: you know, ten twelve hours in a car and we're
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: gonna have to drive to the wedding and we're missing
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Dermak Kennedy on the way home. And that was the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: deciding factor. I didn't have to go as willing to
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: risk death. I didn't have to go there. I didn't
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: have to lay out those options. Fortunately, it's like we
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: got connected. I'm breaking stuff down. I'm like, hey, I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: telling you we're gonna be all right. But even right
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: when we took off from Nashville because it was raining,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: it was starting to rain pretty good, and the wind
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: was going right when we took off, and the wheels
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: like got like right off the ground that spot where
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: was just about to lift you like like felt the
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: jerk sideway. Oh no, Charles got Scotty attached her and
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: she her eyes are just closed and she's just breathing.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: We're just going we.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: It's so funny, idea we dude. When Willow and I
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: took off, we flew delta. When we took off to
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: go to Detroit, I had the thing down. Everybody had
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: their like shades down or whatever, the window shades, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: we're taking off and will was like, are we gonna
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: leave it? I'm like, we're like thirty minutes into the flapping, honey,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: we're in there. She goes, oh, right back from the iPad.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I was like all right, hell yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Does child get scared flying, No, she just gets it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the whole family, dynamic thing. She just she'll get in
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: her head about the family and then the small plane,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: and then she sees the two years. She's like, they've
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: only been you know, this pilot graduated in twenty twenty three,
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: this ungraduated in twenty twenty one.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: This is our very first They sent all this stuff.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: Will text me in the morning and I just start
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: feeling like shit instantly, like my morning was ruined because
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I'm worried for him, knowing that they're worried because it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: a smaller plane. And then the guy texted he's like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: it might be a little bumpy when they take off.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: All I'm thinking, as your wife's sitting there closing her eyes.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it's her. It's like their first flight,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, on the small plane and
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: everything else. I'm like, we're gonnay, it's gonna be easy.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Before fucking it's like Jurassic parking. When you get done
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: it kind of dope, huh oh.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's like a piece of you that's like kind
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: of to survive something easy. Just now it is wild.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: You wanna fly out to Brad's wedding.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: No, no, we're going. We fly out the early flight
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: on Saturday morning.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Oh nice, so you can get a full twenty four
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: hours there, Yeah we can.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: We can. Uh, we can spend some time there.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: That'd be nice. It's just you and Drel going. Yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: so Charles's doing today, we're filming on Monday. She's flying
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: out to London, spending five days there. So she gets
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: back Friday, Friday, and then she's gonna get on a
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: plane Saturday.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: That's rock star ship. Yeah, that is rock star ship.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: And positive too about it being in Spock, because I
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: know a bitched a lot about this wedding in New
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: York and everything else. It is at a sleepy hollow.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Sleepy hall. I said, Salem, you're dude. That does gast
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: me up for you. You gotta do something fun and spooky,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I know. I mean you just gotta walk around. Yeah yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: sleepy hollow where sleepy hollows horsemen.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: You got to take a lot of send me some photos.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I got you, yeah, I got you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Just that to some spooked over stup. Look, there's some
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: tear talk, dude. This is from tom at tom Rynette
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: High start tear talk. If the states of Michigan and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Nebraska went to war with each other, who would win?
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: And why if the states of Michigan Nebraska went to war? Yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's the pop there. I would think
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: I would lean heavy Nebraska, just the blue collar, the
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: gurden spit, the farmers out there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go uh easy dub Michigan. Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Flint,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like and you talk about blue collar cats like this
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: go up to the up like those people are survivors
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: up there, like that's basically Canada arms race. Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some pockets.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Like and also is this is this a neutral site,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: like everyone just meets up in like Minnesota and we
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: go ches or do we have to like go to Nebraska?
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Is in an away game in away war? Because if
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: that's the case.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Two, yeah, you bring up those cities like we're we're
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: just we're insanely outnumbered.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Insanely because I have to look at the population, I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: thinking you're fucking dead.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Detroit done.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And also like we to Nebraska, it might have to
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: be like revolutionary war style where it's like everyone you're
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: going to see each other fifteen miles away. We might
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: as well just line them up, get some muskets in
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: our hand, and get a little drummer boy and get
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: going after.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Some gorilla tactics going on. You come to Nebraska to
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: trench war. Yeah, warfare, you have to win a different way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to await. So you you're thinking Nebraska
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: still no miss okay? Uh Andrew at a underscore Hilliard eleven.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I want to hear the boys thoughts on things you
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: kind of like about a sick day, staying home from school,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: watching the prices right, or things of that nature. Let's
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: have a hell the Monday Boys hashtag tear talk. Yeah.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: I was never allowed to stay home from school. I'd
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: be going to school with diarrhea if I had strap throat.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: I'm at school.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: I was just I was a kid getting every other
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: kid sick.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: I feel that too, bro. My mom wouldn't anytime I
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: go and then I'd be sick and I go to
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: the nurse or whatever and she's like, gotta call your mom.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: My mom comes in, she's almost pissed off it. Oh yeah,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: cause she's like, you just worked the system to go home,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking I feel sick and she's like, you're
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: going to school or if it's bad and they gotta
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: take me because I have a fever. My mom would
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: be tight going home, my mom, and you ain't playing
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: your game boy? Yeah, I'd be trying to I gotta
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: go take a ship. I'm sitting on the toilet trying
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: to play the game boy, trying to play some Pokemon.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: Gotta catch them all. Oh, got to catch them.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: My mom and dad would be like pissed if I
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: like you, you're waiting until this weekend to go to
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: the doctor.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: The parents, if they don't believe that you're sick, they
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: put you in hell. You're no no TV, no nothing,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: and it's the Hey, if you're really sick, you should
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: really rest. Just go in your room and lay there.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, some parents. I got some buddies now that they'd
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: be it'd be like sniffles and they're fucking staying home
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: anytime out here. Oh Chuck isn't here today. I just
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: have one with him. I roll like that dad, dude
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: ain't sick. Oh he's kid home too. The kid was
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: our boy too, that like lived with Chuck. But it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: like we were all just friends like they weren't brothers nothing.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: He just he was just living with Chuck at the time,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: and they'd be like both of them were sick. It's
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: like they're fucking at home right now playing two K
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: basketball Fontera.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is uh yeah. You know everyone had
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: those friends that when they weren't there, You're like, I know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: this motherfucker's having best day.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Kid feels. I gave him that nick. I gave him
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: that nickname. In middle school, JJ Kidd, he loved JJ Kidd.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: He'd wear like wristbands around his uh calf with shorts.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I loved him. I loved him.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, this might not be I hated missing school. Was
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: never good in school, but hated so boring. Buddy, it's
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: boring and like all your friends are there. So when
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: I see with these kids, it'd be more like high school.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Like these kids, you'll be like, I'm skipping class.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I'm going.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm thinking, bro, I want to go to class.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Cute girls in there, My boys are in this class.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Like I want to be around. I want to be around.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I always want to get the I always wanted to
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: get the ninety seven percent, ninety eight percent attendance rate,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: go on the field trip at the end of the year,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: get an award.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: We never had that, never had that shit. I would
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: have been in there every year.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, every year with the sniffles.
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: We had a We had a girl in our high
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: school graduation. She was also our valedictorian, Laney Anderson.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Shout out, Laney.
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: Perfect attendance all the way K through twelve, No way
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: K through twelve. It was the first time in our
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: school's history, the.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: First time in American history.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: But truly, they have this whole plaque and everything. There's
• 33:50
  Speaker 9: like a doctor's appointments that you could like miss like
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: a class and it still counted, you know what I
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: mean of a full day. But she made it past
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: like five periods at least every single day, which is crazy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: That tip of the cap to her tip of the.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Cap, yeah, tip of the cap, tip of the cap.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The all sick this thing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: How are you going to be if? How are you
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: gonna be if?
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: When Rue and Scotti here come up to you think, Dad,
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: I don't feel good, like my stomach hurts.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, they'll go to school. Rude didn't have the fever symptoms,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: but Rue had hand mouthed foot and her ass was
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: at school. It's more like checking with the teachers and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: everything else. There is there is a thing too, like
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: you check with the teachers, and there's a level of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: they're not contagious if they don't have a fever and
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: they don't have like sores in their mouth, they just
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: kind of have the the reaction of it. Scotty had
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: the fever and everything else. Rude just kind of had
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: had like the dots and stuff on her foot and
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: everything else, but they were like already scabbed and that's
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: like a sign that she's not contagious. So it's like
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: we checked with the teachers. But it was also one
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: of those things like I saw charge, I was like, well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: she needs a she needs to go to school. She's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: feeling fine. I'm like, ah, wait you but this it
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: kind of looks weird. It kind of looks like a
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: bit of a deal. And she's like put choos on
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: and everything else. And that's where I'm like, Okay, we're
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: on the same page. I just need more of a
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: push because I'm like this seems like it could be
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: a deal. And once I drive and drop her off,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: I'm like asking the teachers and everything else, and everything
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: was all solid. But they'll go to they'll yeah, they'll
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: they'll go to school. It's just it's you know, how
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: you're going to show up every day like this is
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: this is a discipline and a principle that you embody
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: and you have to establish when they're little, because I
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: know that's how That's how my parents were of me,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Like there wasn't a there was no getting out of
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: you know, trying to be sick or anything else. There
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: were times where we're absolutely dog sick and you just
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: can't go to school. But yeah, as long as as
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: long as they're not like running a fever and everything else,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Like if you're feeling bad, it's like okay, if you
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: got like a little cold, like to me, you're going
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: to school.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Well, we got to be in the hundreds before that
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: conversation takes place of like do they miss school? Yeah
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah, big.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: Time insane by My mom would do anything she could
• 36:02
  Speaker 9: to give me to school of like I had to
• 36:05
  Speaker 9: be actively vomiting or have like a one on one
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: fever so.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Bro one time, guys. When I was younger, I probably
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: nine or something like that, I did not want to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: go to school one day and I tried to play sick,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: didn't have the fever. Heard about the pennything under the tongue.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Tried that didn't work.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: That night.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: I took it one of those little green like army
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: soldiers with the little musket and had like a little
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: point to it, and I kept putting into my nose
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: and tickling in the back of my nose and sneezed,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and I kept sneezing and sneezing and sneezing to where
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: my mom came in, like let's just call it. An
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: hour later and she's like, hey, you're not going to
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: school tomorrow, Like it sounds like you're really having a
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: hard I was like having a really tough time. Didn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: sneeze the rest of the night because I went right
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: to sleep right after that. They had to know, yeah, bro,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: they had to know I was lying. Yeah, I got that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: I had that thing like touching my brain. At some
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: point my eyes were like welting up. Well, I'm like
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I gotta get out. I had no idea why I
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: wanted to get out school. Yeah, exactly.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: That was the O g one.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: When they take a hard right turn, I feel like it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: Sneeze is so easy to bake.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I just love that. You're like, no, we're getting the real.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like water pouring out of my eyes
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: and it was just like one side to my right
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: side of my face was just like all red. And
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: it's like totally fine.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: I had to put myself in a situation where it's
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: like I couldn't. I needed somebody else to be my
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: my alibi. And so after dinner one night, and like,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a shower. Whyat was? You know, White's
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: like six years younger than me, but he's young enough
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: to where he shower. And it's like, all right, you guys,
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: you help White shower everything else. And I house a
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: bunch of apple sauce in my mouth and I kind
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: of hold it to where we're showering, and I just
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: pretend to throw up all over the shower so that
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: way White could leave the shower and be like, oh, yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: will was will was thrown up? And I can kind
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: of milk it a little bit like those were.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: And it goes in the drain too, which is genius.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to where she can't check it. All she
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: has to do is trust White, and she's kind of
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: going off my body language. Why it's young enough, he doesn't.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: True? Yeah, that is elite, elite.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Do we have more to your talk?
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: Shrem We do, but just because of time, we're thinking
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: we may kick it to Chad Powers.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right's he get to Chad Powers real quick?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Chad Powers. Eight years after flushing his promising college football
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: career down the toilet, hotshot quarterback Russ Holliday tries to
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Power. Is
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: a talented audball who walks on is struggling South Carol,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: South Georgia Catfish Bay Catfish, South Georgia Catfish. Based on
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Eli Manning's Eli's Places segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: this comedy event will take viewers by surprise with a
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: comeback story that everyone can relate to. Chad Powers is
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: now streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: on Disney Plus. For bonus subscriber's terms apply. Listen. Have
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: we have you seen the late latest episode?
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I have not?
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, I am I am fired up though that like
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: we were streaming too, and you saw a couple of
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: comments in the life chat being like, Yo, Chad Powers
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: is actually really good. Left. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it's tough to oversell it, but we genuinely feel like
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: this is a good show.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this show is genuinely good. So after they played Tennessee,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: they beat Tennessee. The last episode that came out was
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: the Spooky They go to Spirit Halloween. He loses all
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the stuff, they have to go chat. Russ Holladay gets
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: a gun and they end up finding all the stuff
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: on the floor. The getting back to the hotel where
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: he sees the girl. What's the girl's name again, Ricky
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Ricky don't know why I always forget that. Ricky Ricky
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and Russ Holliday, not Chad Power, see each other at
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: the elevator and Ricky's like, oh, I know who you are,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: blah blah blah. They go back and forth where you
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: see like one of his little lingering at the elevator
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: for a minute and she's coming up to do bed checks.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: He runs up. They end up getting saved. That next
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: day they beat the Tennessee Volunteers. So this next episode
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: that takes place, they are five and zero. They're ranked
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: like top ten in the Country or something like that.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: And College Game Day is trying to do a like
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: interview that featured Peace on Chad Powers to where Chad's like,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: you know, having a really hard time. He's throwing up
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: during it. It's it's a it's a whole deal deal
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: one of the top quotes.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Remember we said like the Wolves was a great one.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, They're like, who's like really influenced you? And he
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: just looks he's like Benjamin Franklin.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: So they talk him into it.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: You see Ricky starting to lin Chad Powers a little bit.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: But does Ricky like Chad Powers if she knows he's
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Russ Holiday. It's a whole back and forth.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: They have a nice little moment while they're watching film together.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Great show, well done show. Chad Powers. Russ Holiday decides
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: to himself in this show, which we don't see any
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: further down at that the only reason why bad things
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: happened to Russ Holliday is because he's Russ Holliday. If
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: he's always Chad Powers from here on out, it seems
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: like only good things happen at Chad Powers. So he's
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: essentially saying, I'm no longer Russ Holiday. Chad Powers is
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: who I am. He's even looking up like how to
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: get plastic surgery to change his face looks like that forever.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: And so now he's having this identity crisis turmoil, bipolar
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: type multi personality thing that's taking place back and forth.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: So it's gonna it's a it's fun.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: There is a crazy wrinkle in this episode.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: We won't spoil it for yeah, don't don't spoil. Don't spoil.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Even even Taylor talking about that right there. I'm not
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's a spoiler, but I'm just thinking
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: in my head, like the riders, what a platform and
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: stage for these riders to like make something out of
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: something that again we'll say again people felt like it
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: was like beating a dead horse with the Chad powers
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: he like manning stuff and it's like, what is this?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: What is this Hulu show? And it's honestly it's a
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: good show.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Delete that highlight thing so Will doesn't see Okay, yes, yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: delete that because body, I forgot about that.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Here's the same holiday takes somebody down.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I'll say that takes down a that's almost say.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Here's the segment that we do have from the show
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: It's called a Fresh Set of Downs segment where we
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: spot where we spotlight one transfer portal player current or
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: past who wasn't playing ballwell or was buried on the
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: depth chart and all they needed was a fresh set
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: of downs in order to spark their redemption story and
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: turn their college careers around. This week's Fresh Set of
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Downs segment Player of the Week is Cade McConnell, Vanderbilt
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman, the left guard of the show. Friend of
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the Show franchise, was the number ten player in Oklahoma
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: valedictorian in high school, went to Minnesota, originally transferred from
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Minnesota to Vandy, and he's one of the best offensive
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: guards in the country. We have a little clip that
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: we can show you where he is body bagging LSU Tigers.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Kate McConnell was also summer intern for busting with the boys.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, summer intern of busts with the boys, probably, and
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: it's your first time seeing them. Mitch was beneath him,
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Internship valedictorian, the whole thing. No disrespect all of us,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: but also disrespect all he's.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Kate is kind of the one who helped catapult the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: entire internship program Operation YEA because he was DM and US,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: but he was demon Sharham to where Sherm kind of
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: had like, Hey, I see that there's this there's this
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: old lineman at Vanderbilt. He's been talking about me about
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: an internship, like he needs a certain credit or something
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: like that could be fun because he plays college football.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: He's at Vanderbilt. They had a good year last year.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: They could be tough this year. Dude seems like he
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: would love to be for the brand. Says he'll do
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: whatever it takes, whatever whatever he can do for the brand.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: We hire guys like in operations, in production and social
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: like specific people like in those lanes, and we were
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: kind of just adding like, yeah, we were gonna do
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: kid the whole time. He was kind of gonna just
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: be our football guy who joined the boys. But he
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: came in and he was like the most surprising. We
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: hired a few people from that litter, but he was
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: like a stud. Yeah, like some you just wouldn't expect, like, okay,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman he's doing for credit. He'll be fun, banter,
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: he'll be good around the vibes, he'll be good around
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the shop. But he's cutting clips. He's doing everything. Yo,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: He's you're gonna be special.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: No job, too big, no drop too small. Guys on scholarship.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: He's at Vandy. They're a hot team. He's getting an
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: al money and he comes in here and acts like
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: he's doing janitorial things. He's cutting clips, he's doing literally
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: whatever it takes to be.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: One of the boys.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. Can we break down this play for a saying?
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Can go go to the beginning of this play. This
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: is a special play by Kate mccaudley. You see, they
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: got little, so they're like in this like three four
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: look right now, So they're fanning out the left tackle
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: and left guard. Kate McConnell's playing left guard. They're fanning out.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: So these two guys are man the end who's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: four eye. He's going to go out towards the tackle,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: basically allowing kid to go back in. But Cad played
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: a little bit the way he body bags this four
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: eye technique. Go ahead, let him bank him bank And
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: then right here, that's amazing. You see the will linebacker
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: he's dropped in the coverage, so you know he just
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: haves that you're left tackle. That's a win for him
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: on that side. He could essentially be done and just
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: kind of hold space. The fact that he's going in
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: to handle the center after that too, because you know
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of times when one guy drops another way,
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: there could be blitzers coming the opposite way, so you
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: have to bang a lot of guys back. This is
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: heady football.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: This is valid.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Victorian football type shit right here. That gets me juiced
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: up because he's violent. The thing that fires me up
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: is his feet are incredible here. He's got extension on
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: his punch. He's violent with his punch without getting over
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: his toes, and he's banging back. And when you're banging back,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: you're not like taking over the block, so you can
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: throw that shoulder into it. Football porn. That's football porn.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Where he gets six to midnight. That's you talking about
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: forty nine from Minnesota last week. And I know the situation,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: but like you brought that up on a stream where
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: you're like, that's football porn.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: You're definitely intentionally going out of your way right there
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: to bring up forty nine. There's no you didn't have
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: to do it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 6: Mighty Well talks about Luke.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I don't know where's yourself? That's not true.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: But go ahead.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know where he's ranked on the NFL or
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: anything else, because I know he's junior, he's got another
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: year and all that. But if there are scouts that
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: are watching tape, whether they're watching Diego or whatever cats
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: they're watching at Vanderbilt or on the defensive side for LSU,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: and they're watching this game, that right, there is a
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: clip to where it's like, say, he's not in the
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: top ten whatever it is. That's one where it's like,
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: who is this kid? Right? And his name starts to
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: get in some conversation, and if he puts some consistency
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: behind that, like this is a clip you will see
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: on draft night, on draft day whenever he does get
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: picked in to look at him here as a junior
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: against LSU's defense.
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: Yes, is I may be.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: Wrong here, but I feel like I've heard some Joe
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: Moore talks about Vandy's offensive line.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Could be they're playing playing credible, man, they're playing amazing.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know if the stats are coming out of
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: the LSU game, but before the LSU game, they were
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: averaging over six yards per rush, which was number one
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: in the country. Unbelievable.
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: What's crazy about Vandy z oh line and Caid in general.
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Is he switchessides each like every other player.
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Which is he doesn't play just right guard or left guard.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: They switch all the time. So within a one series
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: he could take three four snaps at left guard, three
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: four snaps of right guard.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Dude, that's insane. That is that is. I kind of
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: hate that he had another You hate that, but I
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: just love how it's like he's just thinking, just fucking
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: have me in the game.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: Like they move the tackle too, they bring the guard
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: and the tackle, so like that, he sticks with the
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: one guy. They just switch each time. It's the way
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: Vandy runs their offense.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: That's crazy what they need to do with Katy mcconelly's
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: a transfer to Michian next year if he's got one
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: more year.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: I was gonna say, we're watching Vandy LSU and my
• 47:33
  Speaker 9: dad was going.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Hey, that's the girl's guide, that's Cad.
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: That's seventy That sprung u diego for that touchdown run
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: they had up the left sideline. Yeah, he had a
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: nasty block.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: On that one too. He was head hunt.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: It was flowing right there.
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, there's another clip of him going viral too when
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: he pulled from right guard and he came down and
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: just completely ran someone.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Overs are getting some love about this clip. Two years ago,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: when LSU played at Vandy, there was an l s
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: U offensive lineman who essentially did the same thing to
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Vanity Defense. And it's cool to see that script flipped.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: And it's even cool that's our guy that did it.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: And I hope too that this photo is what's kind
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: of sitting here while we talk about them, because just
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: look at demon just a specimen specimen next the caid
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: A couple of dogs out there.
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: That just makes you realize, how is.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that those are to the same things.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Those are both humans, right, Like those are both mammals
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: or whatever whatever we are, Like, that's crazy.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: They're both of the human species, both males.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like that those are both Like if this is
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: a litter of dogs, like that one's related to that one,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: like in some one way, shape or form, Like those
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: things are related right there. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they wan of the less little extra you know what,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: and both It's so funny you brought up the dog
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: litter thing because if they were both.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Looking like little cat blocked on those forward letters at
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: the at the beginning. Huh shirm, that was your joke.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: SHRMP told me that joke before anybody who gets mad
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: at me for that joke. Yeah yeah, well yeah one, yeah,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: one's got more sapient than the other.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: The dog litter analogy that you use, they would both
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: if they were shopping for dogs, Cad would be picking
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: the one that looked like Cad and Jared would for
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: sure be picking the one that looked like Jared. He's like,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: let me give that one a chance. Let me take
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: this one home. Yeah, he's cute here. You just need
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: some cuddling.
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: He can jump in, wants like like a big fucking dog, Jared,
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: I'll take the little.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, little scamper, a little scamper over here.
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Demon swinging it in the air right now, just thinking
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: he's got it. What he's got a German shepherd, doesn't he?
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, German shepherd. He's got miss miss Pickles, what's
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: his Uh, he's.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Got a couple of bigger dogs. Miss huskis shout up,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Miss biscuits Husky.
• 49:58
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: Did we want to get into Drew Brees. He'll be
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: in on with this any second. Do we have anything
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: else we want to hit in the intro any pet peeves,
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: any anything.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out no free shout out this weather it
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: finally broke. It's here.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I got a pet peeve. On the flight home,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: there was a family. There's a little kid behind me
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: that was just kicking my chair the whole time. All good, Like,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: I know what it's like to have children on a flight,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: and that to me, it's like, listen, this it's an hour.
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: It's an hour flight. I can handle this little massage
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: chair in the back just kicking me back and forth.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: That's no problem. But I look back for a second.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: The mom she's just staring at her phone while this
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: kid's doing that. And that's why I'm thinking to myself, Honey,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: we got to teach these kids things. It's not the
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: kid's fault that he's taking the thing, because he doesn't
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: know he's doing the wrong thing.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: Right now.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: The dad notices after.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: He is I think he's Indian.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: He was something. He was something. He had a hard,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: hard accent on it. And we golded off the flight
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm not gonna do the accent. I'm
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: not gonna do the accent. He looks at me and
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: he goes, my kid, my kid was kicking in the
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: back of your chair. And I was like, oh, yeah,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: it's no bed there. He goes, I'm not sorry, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I was like, you're you're not sorry, and he goes,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not sorry. And I was like, I assume there's
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: a language barrier going on here. That's a crazy thing
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: to say. But by pepieve was that mom on her phone.
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he probably was sorry.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: He probably was. He probably had to be. I had
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: He said, I'm not sorry. I'm thinking you're just you're
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: accidentally just putting a not in there. He was more
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: he was more of a stone face killer. Yeah, he's
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: more of a stone face.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: He definitely was not sorry. He was just trying to
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: be a dick.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Why But I didn't say nothing. I was just chilling.
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: I think I think it's because, like you did you
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: like turn around?
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I gave it. I was sitting there
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: and I had the little gap right here and I'm
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: looking I'm talking to I'm talking to Will, and I
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: kind of gave like a peak, like I went like
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: a little peak Ski, and I just see the mom
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: chinned up doing our thing, and I thought that's kind
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: of crazy.
• 51:58
  Speaker 8: I feel like when you learn the English language, you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: like not that's like in Borat, like you learn what
• 52:06
  Speaker 8: there you go?
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: Boy?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if anything, the word not was a mainstay for him.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: What you learned?
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: What not?
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: Me?
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe funck that guy?
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: Dude, No, I'm with you.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I did? Didn't say ship got off
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: the plane? Got off the plane? Yeah? What may I do?
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Beat up some Indian dude? Any who's getting uh?
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Drew Brees, Drew Brees and Zach Bond. All right, gentlemen.
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• 53:09
  Speaker 3: You got me, Yeah, we got you?
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Got me? All right?
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: What's going on, dude?
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I'm looking over this and I obviously am very familiar
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: with your career. But super Bowl Champion, super Bowl forty four,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: thirteen time pro bowler, two thousand and four, NFL ap Player, Comeby,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Player of the Year two thousand and six, NFL Walter
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Payton Mann of the Year two thousand and eight, ap off,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it's a Player of the Year, twenty eleven, NFL ap off.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: It's a player of the year, like Buddy.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, he missed one. What I miss former teammate
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: of Will Compton.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: So of all those accolades, talk to me about what
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: Will Compton did for you in your career.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: You know, just just lead by example, you know, I mean,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: if there, I always always thought I was the first
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: guy in last one to leave. But then this guy
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: comes to town and just tries to show me up.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Stop Drew him. That's him. That's us guys together making
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: me look bad. Yeah, devastating, devastating.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Where should we start. Let's save a lot of ground
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: to cover. Let's start at the beginning. Okay, let's start
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: at the beginning. Talk to me about growing up getting
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: no offers out of high school and ended up a
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: boiler maker. Talked about that process.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I say this, Look, man, you grew up
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. Obviously, football is away of life.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of a lot of small towns.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: You know, everything shuts down for Friday night lights. You know,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: I definitely grew up in that atmosphere. My grandfather was
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a long time high school football coach down at Gregory
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Portland High School, Portland, Texas, outside of Corpus Christie for
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: thirty eight years. So you know, as a kid, we
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: would spend our summers down there. Basically, me and my
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: brother were water boys for his football teams. So as
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a kid, man, I love sports. I mean I was
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: all ball, right, just a gym rat, football, basketball, baseball, Look,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: you know, a track, cross country, tennis, soccer, like you
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: name it, just any stick and ball. And honestly, going
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: into high school, I was three sport athletes. So and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: if you asked me to put it in order of
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: which sports were my favorite, and maybe that I was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: kind of best at, it was baseball, then basketball, and
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: then football.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: So you can play on the basketball court.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I would play the point, but there was a better
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: point guard, so I played the two. I was a
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: streating guard, but a baseball like I was the three
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: hole hitter through right, battag left, played short, but there
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: was a better short stop, so I played third. There's
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a theme here, you know, better guys. So I just
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: shifted positions, you know. But yeah, batted three hole. Modeled
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: my swing after King Griffey junior. Ted Williams was my
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: favorite player of all time, the splendid splinter. So yeah,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: really it was like baseball was my trajectory. That's where
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I really thought I would end up, you know, hopefully
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: having a chance to play the next level, either college
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: or get drafted. So even throughout high school, like I'm
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: playing baseball, I'm playing basketball, and yeah I'm playing football,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: but you know, hey, I was starting B team quarterback
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: on the freshman team and now I'm the backup on
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: JV and I don't think I'm ever going to play.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: And there was actually a moment my sophomore year midway
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: through training camp, like hot Texas heat, brutal, my mom
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: picks me up from practice and she can tell like,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: I'm down with the dumps. We pull into the garage
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: and she's like, what's wrong. I'm like, Mom, I think
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna quit football. Like, I just don't think this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: is my path. I feel like I'm kind of wasting
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: my time. Like I'm playing behind this guy who's a phenom,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's going to be the heir apparent
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: starter on varsity. So I'm just going to ride the
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: bencher for the next couple of years. Why wouldn't I
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: just focus on baseball if that's where I really think
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: my path is. And she's like, I mean, you know,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: do you do?
• 56:49
  Speaker 10: You do?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: You love it? And I'm like, yeah, look, I love
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I love the competition. I love having the ball in
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: my hands. I mean I love the quarterback you know, position,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: everything that comes along with it. Love being out there
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: with my boys. But I just don't think I'm ever
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: going to get a chance to play. And she's like,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: you never know when your opportunity will come, so just
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: stick it out. But first off, you made the commitments
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: for this year, Like, so you're locked in. We can
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: reassess at the end of the year. But you never
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: know when your opportunity will come. And so sure enough,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: a week later, like going into my JV sophomore season,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: where I was just going to ride the bench, the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: starter gets hurt in the final scrimmage. He tears his ACL,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: so man, he's out, and all of a sudden, I'm
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: thrust into the starting job and the rest is kind
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: of history there with football, like it just it just
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: took off. We ended up going ten and zeros at JV.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: I played, played really well, and then all of a sudden,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you're like you're going to be
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the guy, Like you're going to be the starter on varsity.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: And ironically, like this is nineteen ninety five, we go
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: into my junior season of high school football. I went
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to West Lake High School, Boston, Texas. It's a perennial powerhouse. Yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: always quarter finals are beyond big school in state of Texas.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: But we had never won a state championship, Like we'd
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: always gotten really really close, but number won one and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: like this was a year, like the best team we've
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: ever had and we are rolling through the playoffs and
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: in third round of the playoffs, I end up coming
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: off of a bootleg, get hit, come down my knee buckles,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: and sure enough I've torn my ACL ACL MCL lateral meniscus.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: And so like all of a sudden, Now the whole
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: reason I was starting was because this guy in front
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: of me had done that, and I had taken his job.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And so now all of a sudden, this happens to me.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And this is like December of ninety five, and so
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: or excuse me, it was December of ninety five, yep.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: And so now all of a sudden, not only did
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: you know that kind of derails our playoff run, but
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: then I missed the basketball season and I missed the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: baseball season. So and you're a junior, right, that's when
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: you get recruited, right, that's your junior year where and
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: this is what everybody's kind of looking at you and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: thinking about who they're going to offer and all that stuff.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: And look, I was not an impressive guy to look
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: at price still, not six foot, one hundred and seventy pounds,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: right like, nothing, nothing prototype about that. And so then
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: even going into my senior season, you know, I gained
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: about twenty pounds just from working out in the rehab
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: process and all that stuff. To come back, but still
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: six foot one ninety five running a five two eight
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: boys five two eight forty with the big, clunky knee brace.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I was not a real impressive guy to look at,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you know, the guy that the recruiting coordinators canna go
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, man, I got a gym for us.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, six ft one ninety he runs up
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: five to eight with a big old knee brace. You're
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: gonna love this kid.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you feel like offers and stuff would have
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: been there had you not torn your acl because again
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: you're like you did you go on to winn State
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Tunnle your senior year?
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we like, I guess the the accolades were there, right,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: like we went sixteen and oh we want a state
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: championship and the biggest school in the state of Texas.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: Yes I was.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I was the five A offensive player of the Year
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: in the state of Texas.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, right, big, So.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: All that would tell you, okay, man, maybe he's got
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: a little something. Yeah. But again, like I think everybody
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: at times gets pretty enthralled with the measurables, right like
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the prototype look, and I was certainly not that guy
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: like I was.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: I was.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I was I was a multi sport athlete, right, so
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I think if you just kind
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: of looked at it the way people look at it now,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really attractive thing now, is that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: they look at, hey, does this kid guy play other sports?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Says you just know how to ball, knows how to ball,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: loves competition, that sort of thing. I think I checked
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: all the boxes there, but certainly the measurables weren't weren't there,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: And so when it came down to it, I ended
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: up getting recruited by two schools. It was Purdue in Kentucky,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: and the situations there were that both of them had
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: new coaching staffs. So with Kentucky how Mummy, I don't
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: know if you remember this, how Mummy. He was kind
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of part of that air raid offense and that was
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: really starting to take off, like mid nineties. He came
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: from Valdosta State to Kentucky and the quarterback in Kentucky
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: at that time was Tim Couch. So Tim Couch was
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: my host to on my visit to Kentucky. And basically,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: like these guys kind of painted the picture for me.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: First of all, they were like, you can play football
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and baseball. Here, you're gonna come in. You're gonna back
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: up Tim Couch because nobody's beating this dude out. He's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: a phenom. Right, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna play
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: for two more years, so you're gonna red shirt back
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: him up, and then he's gonna leave early for the draft.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: He'll be the first pick, and then you're gonna start
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: for three years at Kentucky and you're gonna play baseball.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that that actually sounds pretty that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: sounds deal.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, And then I go to Purdue and Purdue had
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: Joe Tiller who just came from Wyoming and they were
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 11: running the spread offense, and he said that they they
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 11: were going to recruit me at Wyoming, but they're like,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 11: there's no way we're gonna get this kid up to Wyoming.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 11: But then when he got to Purdue and it was
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 11: big ten, you know, maybe a little bit bigger program,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 11: I was like, Okay, now we can go after him.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: But he was shocked to hear that. I didn't have
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: any offers really, so it came out of Purdue Kentucky,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and I chose Purdue mainly because of the academic reputation,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: but also playing in the Big Ten. The quarterback prior
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: to us was a guy named Jay Rogers. He's actually
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the d line coach for the New Orleans Saints right now.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: He was our quarterback for west Lake High School. He
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: went to Indiana University. So I you and I played
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: with his brothers and so we would like get together
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: on the weekends to watch him play. And I'm watching
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: him play against Michigan and Ohio State and like all
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: the big boys, and at the time, like Big Ten was,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, all those schools I think was where everybody
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: aspired to go and play, you know, with her against Yeah,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: And so I remember seeing that saying, all right, I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: get I mean you're telling me I get to play
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: against Notre Day, Michigan, Ohiose State, Penn State, Wisconsin every
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: year and get a great education. And I was like,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: sign me up. That's why I chose Purdue.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: Did that as awesome? What are there were there any
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: other moments, like clearly you were able to that that
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: moment you had you said, what was that with your
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: mom or she was asking you saying you're gonna finish
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: out the rest of the year, you have that moment
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: with your mom, and then your opportunity kind of comes
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: and you're kind of forwarded to the fire on understanding
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: these lessons at a young age, Like, were there any
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: lessons or moments during your time at Purdue that carried
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: you into the NFL as well to where maybe you
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: got tested or maybe it was another moment that you're
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: able to look back on and see that, Hey, I'm
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: glad I stayed true to the process here.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean so many similarities, Like you know, high school.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I talked about Westlake High School, Like, we moved into
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that district my freshman year, and ironically it was because
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: my mom, like we lived all over Austin in a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: bunch of different parts of town. My parents had gotten
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: divorced when we moved to Austin, so it's kind of
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a tough time early, just as they were kind of
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: trying to find, you know, their rhythm and and but
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, my mom looked around
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: and said, Okay, what's the best high school that's going
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: to put my kids in the best position to succeed
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: athletically academically. So she chose WESTLEYK High School's basically all right,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I'm moving into the district so you can go to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: school here. And I remember showing up that day one
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: my freshman year of high school and literally they were like, okay,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: who wants to play quarterback? And like forty hands went
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: up in the air, including mine, and I looked around
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I am never going to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: touch the field. Right. It was kind of similar to Perdue, Like, yeah,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: I get recruited, but I get recruited alongside two other quarterbacks,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: right that were highly touted guys from the Midwest, big
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: time recruits coming to play in the spread offense. Right,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Like that was the big Lawrie, We're gonna throw a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: fifty times a game. And I show up, so there's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: seven guys there to play quarterback my true freshman year.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: So once again it's like, oh gosh, you know I'm
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: gonna end up, you know, holding being at tackling dummy
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: here for a few years, right, maybe even get the
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: chance to step on the field. Well, I ended up
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: kind of becoming a backup quarterback to a fifth year
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: senior my true freshman year and played in about seven
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: or eight games, one of those being in a critical
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: moment against Michigan State. Nick Saban was the head coach there,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: like our guy was not playing, benched him. They put
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: me in. I'm kind of like, you know, the young
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: freshman going to come and start slanging it. I had
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing. I threw a ball
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: against tip gets intercepted. They pulled me back out, put
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: the fifthyar senior in. Ironically, we go down and score
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: like two touchdowns and win the game. But but like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: plenty of moments there where man, you're just you're just
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: questioning whether you belong you know, I think that there's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: always especially those moments as you kind of tick up levels,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: you know, from high school to college to the pros,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: they have those moments of like, man, like a little
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: bit of self doubt, like do I belong here? And
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: it's a bit overwhelming, and it and it and it
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: is where you just have to It's like you got
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: to just trust your training and trust your instincts and
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: trust the process and you know a lot of a
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: lot of self belief, but also just you know, the
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: overcoming of adversity and feeling like if you do things
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: the right way, good things are going to happen. And
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: and then and then you get to the point where
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: you almost man. You embrace, embrace the adversity, you embrace
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the challenges. Look there there there were some defining moments
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: in in college. I say one of the biggest ones
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: was I ended up winning the starting job my sophomore year.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: So we open up the year at USC kind of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: a big, big moment first start in the coliseum against
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the USC Trojans in nineteen ninety eight. We end up
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: losing that game, but I kind of felt like, okay, man,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I can do this. And then we
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: end up playing I think it was Central Florida and Rice.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: We get wins there, and then all of a sudden,
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like leading up to this big game
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is top ten and this
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: is like dream come true, like going to play at
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Ye, I'm a sophomore, like this was one
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of the whole reasons that I chose to come to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Purdue was to be able to play in games like this.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: And for fifty eight minutes of that game, I play
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: absolutely lights out, like I just like I blacked out
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: and just and we end up like we're beating the
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: top top ten team in the country as little old
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Perdue coming into Notre Dame. And then unfortunately in the
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: last two minutes, like we're just trying to just ice
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: the game, just get one first down, Notre Dame spurning timeout.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: So we get to third and ten and Coach kind
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: of kind of like, hey, I'm going to call a
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: pass play. I'm putting this thing in your hands, like
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: let's go get this first time and go win this game.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: And it was kind of like one of these rollout plays,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm throwing the ball over the middle to a
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: guy and I just let the ball sail a little
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: bit hot and it kind of tips off his fingertips
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: and Tony Driver, the free safety, picks it off, runs
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: it back to like the two yard line, they kick
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: a field goal to take the lead, and then we
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: have another now two minute drive to try to go
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: win it, and I throw another pick, So basically two
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: picks in the final two minutes. And dude, when I say, well,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: first off crew had one at Notre Dame in like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: thirty years, Okay. And so I'm sitting here looking at
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: all the seniors in the locker room and everybody's like crying,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: and just you know, like we had fought so stinking
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: hard and I was sitting there going, dude, you are
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: responsible for this pain, right, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Like we all have these.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: It's like and then but and then we insult injury.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Like we we now ride the bus back to the Purdue.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: We bust up to South Bend for this game. It's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: only like two and a half hours away. So I'm
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: riding the bus back to Purdue and I'm literally just
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: staring out at the cornfields you know in Indiana, and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, this is like you have
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: a choice here, right, Like you can just go in
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: the tank as a result of what just happened. Where
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: you can you know, freaking bow up, stiff upper lip
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: man and show these guys what you're made of.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: And so look, a tough week of practice, but it
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: was just like, lock in focus. This has to be
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: your best performance. And then we come out against Minnesota
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: and I think I went thirty one to thirty six
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: for five hundred and twenty two yards and six touchdowns.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every single game record in for new history.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: That next game, and it was kind of like one
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: of these misty, eerie day like Midwest fall days. But
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: it was just like it all kind of came together
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and it was one of those I don't know, it
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: was like those one of those proven moments to myself.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: They're like, you can, you can, you can overcome one
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: of these kind of devastating os that mentally could really
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: mess with.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: You, right, absolutely devastating to come back.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: To that next week and just and absolutely put your
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: best foot forward. And I don't know, I just it
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: proved a lot to myself.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, two pigs in those last two drives, You're you're
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: definitely you're trying to the game. Yeah, trying. You're putting
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: that entire game on yourself. Like, fuck, maybe I am
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: who they think.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I am, right right, Maybe maybe my mom was wrong.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: I should have just played baseball and you're going way
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: back in all time, Yeah I should I should have
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: quit the whole entire time. Dude, What was like being
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: a sophomore and having that happen at the end of
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game? Were there any like seniors? How
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: was the leadership in that building at that time? Were
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: they like come up to you and checking you, putting
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: their hand on your shoulder, But hey, it's going to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: be all right or was it like leave the kid
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: alone and see what he does. No one's coming to
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: save you vibes.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: No, I would say we had we have pretty good
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: We had good culture on that team, and we had
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: a good group of guys, and honestly, we had we
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: had We had guys that had been kind of beaten
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: down for a while, you know, like Perdue hadn't had
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of success, you know up to that point,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: you know, fifteen straight losing seasons or something like that,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: and just a lot of dysfunction. You know, when Joe
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Tiller got there, he had cleaned house on a lot
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of guys. You know, like that was a really tough
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: first you know, spring ball, where he was honestly trying
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: to run some guys out right and just make sure
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: that he kind of kept the right guys. And so
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: everybody who was there like had earned their right to
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: be there, and it was because they were great leaders
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and we're great you know, they had formed the culture
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: and so man, I did have plenty of guys that
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: put their arm mom and like, hey man, we got you,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: we believe in you, and obviously that means a lot.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: But also knew I had to prove it to him.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so just for more context, everybody that already knows
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: Drew Brees, but just gonna say it again. Six foot
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: you know less than two hundred pounds. Around two hundred pounds,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: You tear your acl. You gotta bum you gotta bum
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: ACL over five seconds in the forty you still get
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: drafted in the second round to the chargers tear the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: ship out of your shoulder. Can you give us a
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: look inside your mental your mind during that process, because
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: in your career, in your journey, you've had to trust
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: your instincts, You've had to stay true to your beliefs,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: what you believe in everything else. Can you give us
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: a look inside that moment when you tore your shoulder
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: with the chargers and how close you were to potentially
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: not playing ever again. I think you failed to physical
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: later on as well, Like, give us a look inside
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: of that story of overcoming that adversity.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, that was uh at the time, man,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: that was that was about as devastating as it gets
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: because that was that was truly a moment where I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: felt like my dream was just being ripped away, Like, uh,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: that I would that I would never play football again.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: And look my first five years with the San Diego Chargers, man,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: there were there were plenty of ups and downs. I
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: came in as a rookie and backed up Doug Flutie
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: for a year.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which was tab Doug flute.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: As a guy to learn fromhim and as a mentor
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: for four years because he ended up being backing me
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: up for three years. Was pivotal for me in my
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: growth development and for my career. But during that stretch
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: where I was the starter, I was benched three times
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: by Marty Schottenheimer for various reasons.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it was turning the ball over too much. Sometimes
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: it wasn't getting the job done. Sometimes it was just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: hey we need to spark. I'm gonna throw Fluti in there.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: But like, nonetheless, for a young guy who's working so
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: hard to establish himself, you know, as the starter for
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: a team and gain that respect and that belief from
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: my teammates in the organization, man, that's a shot to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the ego, right And like, never had I had a
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: moment in my career where I truly lost confidence. And
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: there was definitely a moment or two during that stretch
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: where you would say, like I lost confidence like I
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: was just not sure if I could get the job
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: done right, and yet Man had battled through that, and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: you know, off season is just dedicating myself to being
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: the very best leader that I could be quarterback, Like
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: looking at my diet, my sleep pat is like I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: was leaving no stone unturned and finally had kind of
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: reached this point four to five, We're okay, like I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: am now a good player in this league and I'm
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: clearly the starting quarterback of this team and earned the
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: right to be the franchise quarterback for this organization. And
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: then going into the very last game of the two
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: thousand and five season, which was the end of my contract,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: so it was like, Okay, I've made it all the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: way through. I've proven it, and now's the opportunity to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: get the commitment from the organization long term. You're our guy,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: despite the fact that they drafted Philip Rivers, you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: two years previous, who is now my backup? Like, Man,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I am going to be the guy. And then that
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: very last game against the Denver Broncos, you know, I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: come out of a you know, a pile of jumping
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: for a fumble and I have this dislocated right throwing shoulder.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Literally my arm is stuck like this. It dislocated out
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the bottom and it was just stuck like that. So
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I remember walking to the sideline. It's kind of like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: one of these rainy days, and like, I like, my
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: body's in shot, but I know exactly what it is,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and I know the gravity of the situation, you know.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: And I sat there as I'm walking off the field
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: and I literally thought to myself, this the last time
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to put on a charge of uniform.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: And then I get to the sideline, I was like,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: you know, this maybe last time I ever played football game.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: As the doc is like, you know, lethal weapons, sliding
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: my shoulder back into my socket and even, you know,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of days after that, like I go see
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: doctor James Andrews, who was the preeminent you know, or
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: with the people surgeon down at Birmingham, Alabama, and literally
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: he's looking at me like, hey, you have so much
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: swelling in that shoulder. I really don't know the extent
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: of the damage. Like just let me get in there
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: and figure it out and then I'll kind of tell
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: you when it's done. So like literally, as I'm going
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: under for surgery, I still don't know what's going to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: happen or even the gravity the whole you know, injury.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: And I end up coming out of the surgery and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, he goes like, if I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: if I had to do that surgery one hundred times,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do as well as I just did it.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: That was this message to me. So I was like, Okay,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear. Doctor, Like what does
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: that mean? He's like, he's like, look, you have a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: long road ahead of you. Like it's a minimum eight
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: months before you're even going to ever start to be
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: able to throw again. He's like, I put you back together,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: but man, this reheab process is going to be a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: bear and you're going to have to learn how to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: throw again, right. And there's kind of some non negotiables
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: about the rehab as we go along here. I mean,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I was trying to push the envelope as much as
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I could. But here's something interesting that happened in that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: during that that that chain of events. So I actually
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: going into that last year, my agent had recommended that
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I get an insurance policy on my shoulder, I mean,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: or basically just on my you know, my body, my career,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: right like, hey, you know, you have the chance to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: sign a long term contract which should be worth a
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: lot of money if something happens to you this year,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: she get a like a Woyds of London contract, uh
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: insurance contract just in the event that something happens and
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: you can't play. So there was a moment where I
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: had to make a decision as to whether I was
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: going to collect the insurance policy and never play again,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: where I was going to attempt to play again and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: avoid the insurance policy, which.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure the insurance policy was probably a pretty hefty
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: amount of.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: Care to share that number at all of what that
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: insurance policy was to show.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I think it was like five million bucks. Here was
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: five million bucks that I could just take the five
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: million in the walk or or attempt to play again
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: and again. There was no guarantees right that that that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I would play again. But but I I was like,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: you know what ripped that thing up?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like God's got me, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: this is this is even though this is the path
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: that I wouldn't choose, Like this is this is the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: one I'm on and and and I'm going to be
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: better for it, and I think that's that's that's really
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: the way I look at that, a c L injury
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: with my with my knee in high school. You know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: at the time, I thought, Hey, this is that state,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: and it's the worst thing ever could happen to me.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I'm missing, you know, the basketball seat in the baseball seat.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get recruited. Like, yes, did it
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: alter my path? Maybe it did, but man, it molded me,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: strengthened me. It made me stronger in my faith. It
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: did so many things for my path and my direction
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: that you know at times that we leave it up
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: to our own devices, you know, I think that's when,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: you know, we realized that, you know, God has us
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: right where he wants us, and it's all for a reason.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: It's all meant to mold us in a lot of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: different ways. And both those injuries did that for me.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: And look, I never would have ended up with the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and had that incredible, incredible experience, incredible run,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: incredible journey that we had there over the course of
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: fifteen years, and obviously that became about so much more
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: than just football. But I never had the chance to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: be a part of that if it wasn't for going
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: through those things.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, how long did that rehab process take? In totality?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: Man, the shoulder was a solid eight months. So, you know,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: surgery was early January, and literally I wasn't ready until
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: week one of the season, you know, so call it
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: in early September. You know, I went through training camp,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: but I was on a pitch count, you know, so
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, kind of ramping up twenty throws
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: and then thirty throws and then forty throws, and I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: mean I can remember my first couple of throws. I'm
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: sitting there throwing a slant and just dirting them, you know.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: And you know, you can ask Sean Payton. Sean Payton's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: looking at our quarterback coach who had been with me
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: in San Diego, and was like, hey, are we seeing
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the best of him right now? And my QB coach
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: would be like, hey, well there's more there, There's more there.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: Just be patient. And truly it was one of those
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: things where it was like if I threw forty throws
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: in a day, maybe two or three of them were good. Really,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: then the next day it was four or five, and
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: the next day it was five or six and then
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: then seven, and that you know it just gradually each day,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: so truly trusting the process and not getting frustrated and
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: just knowing that, man, it's just going to keep getting stronger.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: It's going to keep getting better. And the I rening
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: with that whole thing is like, honestly, I I came
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: back so much stronger, like I'm saying, like a stronger arm,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: like a stronger lower half, like better mechanics, Like everything
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: came back better. And it was probably a result of
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: literally having to like rebuild the foundation for throwing again,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: like literally having to learn how to throw the football again.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: So mechanically it was almost like, Okay, any deficiencies that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I had before, I can correct them now because I'm
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: literally like rewiring the system just to get back on
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the field again.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I got a So I got kind of a two
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: part of here because we kind of brushed over the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: insurance policy a little bit. I want to know, like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: who you talked to in that process, how long of
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: a thought process it was before You're like, Lesten, five
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: million dollars sounds great, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: betting on me. And then also, how did we get
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: to New Orleans from you know, having the shoulder surgery,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: playing your last game as a Charger.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a main conversations with my wife and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: then with my agent. You know, my agent was Tom Condon,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Old Tommy yep ye. So you know, I think it
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: was you know, with Tom like man. Tom was always
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: so just kind of poised, even keel like Tom. I
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: always felt like you talk about agent, do you just
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: feel like has your back man at all times? And
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: like I, I I think as devastated as we all were,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: that I was just in that situation. I think Tom,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: if anything, gave me a ton of belief that that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I could come back and and and not only play,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: but play at a high level, you know, and and
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: so it was just reinforcing what I what I wanted
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: to hear, you know, I just I just wanted I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: just wanted to feel like I just had everybody in
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: my camp, you know, and everybody that was there to
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: help push me to be you know, the best that
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I could be. But but certainly, you know, just be unwavering,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: you know, in that belief. And he was one of
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: those guys. Of course, my wife and so yeah, I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, it became an
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: easy decision, like I'll always regret if I don't, you know,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: make a run at it, you know. But I think
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I think all that is to say that, like just
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the reality of the situation with my shoulder, Like if
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: you ask doctor Andrews, he would tell you that he
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: didn't think I was going to be able to come
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: back and play again, even though he put it back
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: together as good as he possibly could. It's like, just
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: the probabilities are not good. I've just he had never
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: seen that injury in a throne ever, Like that was
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: a bull rider's injury when a bull rider gets his
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: arm caught in the rope. This is what he told me.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: That's what he sees. The dislocation out of the bottom. Right,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: that's gnarally, man, that's gnarly three hundred and sixty degree
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: tear of the labor. And so I had thirteen anchors
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: in my shoulder. Like literally I would do rehab and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: it would sound like a cold rubber band. It was
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: these anchors in my shoulder, like just ringing in my ear.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Now do it. That's like a vivid memory of.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: Rehab and in context for people I tore my shoulder
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: as well, and it works like a clock like I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: had twelve, Like thirteen is something extra has to be
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: happening to your shoulder for him to have thirteen anchors.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: So here's so Zach Thomas had surgery the same day
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: that I did with a similar injury. But you guys
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: playing linebacker, they're going to fix you differently because you're
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: not required to have all this external rotation, right.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: We'll have there is for our lives.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tighten you guys up right because you
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: don't you don't need all that.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: Right, We're just right here, but yeah, exactly.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: But but for QB rotational athlete need all this external
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: internal like it's it's got to be stable enough but
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: loose enough, you know. So it's like it's walking this
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: delicate line, right and yeah, through the rehab process, it's
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: just about building their strengthen and around that joint to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: protect it. But yeah, I mean it was like a
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: work of art as I think about what doctor Andrews
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: had to put back together and perform.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: Dude, that is incredible. Again, like you given that perspective too,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not even thinking about it on Zach Thomas,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: like having similar surgeries and they gotta do it a
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: little bit differently because the quarterback, linebacker and everything else,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: and just you still overcoming that and I appreciate you
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: sharing all that with this too, because I know, like
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: if you're if you're young, like I'm thirty six, I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: want to say you started to take off when I
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: was like in high school, right, Like, wasn't it like
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: when you're having like the four thousand yard seasons, isn't
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: it around like what O seven, eight oh six? Maybe?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Six O six was our first year with the
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Saints and that was that was really the start of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the run.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: So even at my age, like I remember, like there
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: were a couple of moments where I'm getting reminded that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: you played on the San Diego Chargers. I'm getting reminded
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: your actual laboram story came up during my rehab process
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: on Just Guys. It was like you, I want to say,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: rich Gannon was another one. But you're like learning about
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: these things about like Drew Brees that you that everybody
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: knows of as a Hall of Fame quarterback, Like anybody
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: young that just watched you basically your Saints days has
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: really you know, they could be hearing this for the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: first time, just be thinking, Oh shit, he played on
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: It's always the Oh shit, he played on the Chargers.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: Oh shit, Philip Rivers was a backup him for a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: couple of years. Oh he was behind Doug Flutie, like
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: the Drew Brees that we all know right now. It's crazy.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: So I appreciate you walking us down those those those
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: old memories.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit of memory laying there. But
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: and then every every one of those Look, I consider
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: myself really lucky from a coaching perspective. You know, Joe
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Tiller in college, who was so influential for me, Marty
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Schottenheimer with the Sandy Which Charterers, Sean Payton with the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, so pretty rare that you would just have,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: you know, that that level of stability, you know, at
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: each level and each each one of those guys, I
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: just have lessons that continue to ring in my ear,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, each and every day, especially as now I'm
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: coaching and I'm coaching my kids and other kids, and
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: just you know, a lot of my style has been
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: modeled off of those guys.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a lot of guys.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: We have Clay Matthews, on one of our Locker Room
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: show that comes out on Thursdays, and we also have
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: and just hearing about these coaches and how their approach
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: to these kids. What is what is your approach with
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: your children? Are you hardest on your kids a little
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: easier on the other kids. Gregson, he's coaching his.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Actually I love watching greg stuff. I know I ran
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: is he's coaching middle school football. I was coaching my
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: eighth grade Pop Warner son this year, and I coached
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Pop Worner the last two years too for my my
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: freshman son. Yeah, it's I would say my style. Well,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: first off, I think it's very hard for parents to
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: coaching kids because it is very natural to try to
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  Speaker 1: over coach them, right. It's like you feel like every
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  Speaker 1: lesson that comes to your mind to teach them, you
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  Speaker 1: just like, ah, it's just coming out at all times,
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  Speaker 1: and you want to coach a mike on every play.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where it just becomes difficult, is blurring those
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  Speaker 1: lines between like dad and the house, and then you
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  Speaker 1: know I'm your coach. You can't tell how many times
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  Speaker 1: I've I've had to look my son in the eye
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  Speaker 1: and say, hey, so like right now, I'm your coach.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not your dad. Okay, I'm your coach, so listen
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 4: Right to what I say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but i'd say this, like overall, I'd say, I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty intense, but I try to I try to be
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  Speaker 1: intense with my praise as much as I am intense
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  Speaker 1: with my correction, right, So it's not it's not just
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  Speaker 1: one sided I, I would say. I I also I
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  Speaker 1: also try to really put each position, each kid in
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  Speaker 1: the best position to succeed, and and try to find
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  Speaker 1: moments where you can put them in a position where
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  Speaker 1: you are able to give them praise. I find that
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  Speaker 1: so many, so many of these kids like to watch
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  Speaker 1: their growth from the start of the year to the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year, like is monumental. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's where we see the sport of football as just
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  Speaker 1: being like this creator of men, right and good young men.
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  Speaker 1: There's just so many life lessons to be learned through
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  Speaker 1: the sport, and it's almost like you're just looking for
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  Speaker 1: those moments that you can set up in practice or
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  Speaker 1: or in a game that you can immediately spin back
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  Speaker 1: to being a life lesson. And then I think, like
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  Speaker 1: that recap at the end of every practice and the
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  Speaker 1: recap at every at the end of every game are
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  Speaker 1: probably some of my favorite moments. You know, it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of go around the circle all the coaches, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what did we learn today? And then you just try
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  Speaker 1: to take something that happened to practice and then bring
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  Speaker 1: it back to life, right like the effort of some
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  Speaker 1: kid or you know whatever it might be. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: just I find that that those are the most valuable
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  Speaker 1: parts of coaching these young kids.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You we we broke down the shoulder thing a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're in the process. You're going this eight month
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  Speaker 3: rehab where we don't know if you can play again.
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  Speaker 3: You've ripped up the insurance policy. Your wife's like, I
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: believe in you. Tom Connin's like, I believe in you.
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  Speaker 3: Tom connit's paid to believe in you. Yet you still
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: believe that he believed that what is his how is
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  Speaker 3: he going out? And what other teams is he talking to?
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  Speaker 3: That ended up you going to the New Orleans Saints.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say because of the just you know,
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  Speaker 1: unknowns with the shoulder and and the fact that I
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  Speaker 1: think word had gotten out that you know, I had
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  Speaker 1: a twenty five percent chance of coming back and playing,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was that was what the Miami Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: doctors had assessed with me, and they had told Nick
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  Speaker 1: Saban that they had told the the UH the organization
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  Speaker 1: that because at the end of the day, it came
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  Speaker 1: down to the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: as being the two teams that were trying to bring
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  Speaker 1: me in as the starter. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams that were like, hey, we'll bring you in as
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  Speaker 1: basically like a backup, and let's just see what you
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: got right, Let's see, let's see if you can if
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  Speaker 1: you can come back. But the Saints and the Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: were the only two that were coming after me to
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  Speaker 1: be their starting quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: When you look at the NFL now and there's all
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  Speaker 4: these talks around quarterbacks, should they play as a rookie,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: all these young quarterbacks who struggle. Then you look at
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: examples like Sam Darnold, who's in the Baker Mayfield gyle Jones, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, and obviously clearly it's it was a sim
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  Speaker 4: It was very similar with yourself, like what do you
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  Speaker 4: feel like you look at with these guys to where
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: it's you know, everybody's wanting to either say they're not
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  Speaker 4: the guy, or they're a bust, or they just need
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  Speaker 4: to be in a better situation, Like what are you
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  Speaker 4: seeing when you watch kind of these conversations unfold, pulling
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  Speaker 4: from your own experience seeing these guys now have success
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  Speaker 4: after having a rocky start in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Look, man, it's a great it's a great question, and
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  Speaker 1: it's and it's probably it's definitely in exact science because
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: we see it, we see it succeed and fail a lot. Right.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing I would say is you just you
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  Speaker 1: can't replace experience, and so the more experience a guy has,
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  Speaker 1: the more that you are going to see what he's
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  Speaker 1: capable of and what you have. So I'll give you examples, Like,
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  Speaker 1: first off, I think that every NFL, you know, any
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  Speaker 1: young player needs at least forty to fifty high level
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  Speaker 1: starts before you're going to see, you know, what they're
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  Speaker 1: capable of. I think too many times guys get drafted
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  Speaker 1: and maybe they've only started for a year, year and
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  Speaker 1: a half or two in college and they're expected to
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  Speaker 1: come in and it just to happen like that's that's
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  Speaker 1: not that's not reality. The reality is if a guy
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  Speaker 1: has a limited number of starts in college, it's probably
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  Speaker 1: going to take him a good two to three years
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL before you're going to know what you have.
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  Speaker 1: And if he's in a situation where look as it is,
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  Speaker 1: in most cases, most top ten pick quarterbacks, top fifteen
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  Speaker 1: pit quarterbacks are going to teams that aren't very good.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they're drafting that high, or they have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other holes to fill, and so it's just
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  Speaker 1: even more pressure that's falling on the quarterback position, right,
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  Speaker 1: And everybody's got this win now mentality and man, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have time.
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  Speaker 10: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, you also have to understand that, man,
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  Speaker 1: the maturation process for a quarterback takes takes a little time.
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  Speaker 1: The guys that do come in and maybe have more
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  Speaker 1: success early probably has a lot to do with the
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  Speaker 1: team that they're on and the system and the staff,
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  Speaker 1: but also the amount of experience. Okay, So like the
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  Speaker 1: rookies that came in and had success last year, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: like the bow Knicks Oennicks started sixty games in college,
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  Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. Jade Daniels started four seasons I think
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  Speaker 1: two years for Arizona State two years for LSU, right,
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  Speaker 1: Rock Purty, Rock Purty started fifty one games at Iowa State, right,
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  Speaker 1: and every time they stept on the field, they were
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: not the better team, right, Like they were the underdogs.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: They have a chip on the shoulder like they had
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: to kind of like you know, gritty. So I think
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  Speaker 1: those would be examples of all right, a lot of experience,
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  Speaker 1: so better position to maybe have some success you know,
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  Speaker 1: early in the NFL, but still a process.
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  Speaker 4: Is it still the same formula even if they're having
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  Speaker 4: success early, Like, is it still kind of the same
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  Speaker 4: formula or system in your head to where it's like
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  Speaker 4: you still want to see a good forty fifty high
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  Speaker 4: level starts in the NFL Because people talk about they
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: try to break down Bowe nixt all the time. Like
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  Speaker 4: you played for Sean Payton. Everybody's like this partnership, this
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  Speaker 4: is who Sean wanted. It seems like bow Nick Drew
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  Speaker 4: Brees has that mental Yeah, he has that mental fort two.
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  Speaker 4: He has that kind of it factor on wanting to
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  Speaker 4: compete and learn and be really great. He also started
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  Speaker 4: a shitload of games, so if he has a down game, people,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the conversation will be well, he had
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  Speaker 4: all these starts, he's kind of as good of a
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  Speaker 4: prod product as he's going to be. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 4: there's still some separation from college to the NFL, right,
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  Speaker 4: what do you see that situation? Like with like Bo
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: Nicks and Sean Payton in Denver or an example like that.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it, too, is the style of offense that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of these college programs are running man. So
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: much of it's no huddle, so much of its shotguns,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: so much of it is RPO. You know, we're really
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: you're kind of pigeonholing the quarterbacks into In most cases
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: you're just reading like one person, or you're just reading
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: like this small section of field, and so you don't
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  Speaker 1: really get a chance to learn a ton about coverage
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  Speaker 1: or even like in other words, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: your football IQ is is where it needs to be,
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  Speaker 1: or if you've really been in positions where you've been
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  Speaker 1: forced to kind of learn all of those things until
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: you get to the NFL and then all of a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: sudden it is men, the best teams are the ones
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: that can get under center and run the ball like
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: that's you would know will like as a linebacker, if
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: you're exclusively in shotgun, I think that gives you. That
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  Speaker 1: gives you a lot more benefit than all of a
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: sudden offense that is under center. We're going to pound it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh here comes play action, right, opening up shots down
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  Speaker 1: the field. Oh there's the screen game. Oh there's the shotgun.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh we're going empty right, like this variety that you
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: can throw at defenses in the NFL. If you have
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: the ability to go under center and add that component,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: I think makes you much more of a problematic offense.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: And I think from a quarterback perspective, it's a skill
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: set that you need to have. Like I watched the
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: New England Patriots right now on the Colts two of
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: the teams that are under center the most, and they're
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: having some of the most success. And I think it's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: really benefiting those quarterbacks and Daniel Jones and Drake may So.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I bring that point up just to say that I
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: think a lot of these kids now are doing things
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: in college that then they come to the NFL and
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: then they're having to do stuff that maybe they've never
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: done before, maybe they've never been under center. But man,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: like that's a big benefit to that. I had a
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of that that learning curve. When I came
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: in the league, we were spread offensive Purdue throwing the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: ball fifty times a game. I was in shotgun ninety
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  Speaker 1: percent of the time. I get into a pro style
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: offense with Ladanian Tomlinson and like a true fullback of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo Meal, and guess what, I'm under center like seventy
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: five percent of the time right having to turn my
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: back to the defense on play action Like I never
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was, right, right, So that
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: that took That took a little time. I saw that
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  Speaker 1: with bo Nicks last year because I know Sean Payton
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: likes to do that, right, So again it's what system
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: where they in and then what are you asking them
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: to do now? And just understanding there's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a learning curve that goes along with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we will brought up that, you know, the bow
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Nick Sean Payton relationship. Everyone always kinds of lean on,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: like Sean Payton has found his new Drew Brees bow
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: Knicks student of the game, true professional, very dialed in
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: in his routine. Did you ever have a conversation with
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton about the possibility of bo Knicks or as
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: bow Knicks reached out to you and be like, Hey,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: this guy's a really intense coach. How do or so,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: how do I get him to like me a little bit?
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: More like what do I got to do?
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  Speaker 10: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Have you had any conversations with those two about their relationship?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I remember talking to Sean a
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: bunch during the draft process when all, you know, six
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks were out there, and you know, him
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: talking about who he liked, and ironically, he loved Bo.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: He loved Bo from from the very beginning, and then
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: Bo kind of fell in his lap at whatever that was,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: pick twelve or thirteen. And I think Bo has all
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: the traits that Sean loves. First off, Bo's a fiery competitor.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Sean likes. Sean likes having a guy like that, even
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: a guy who's going to kind of snap back at him.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Sean Payton comes from the Bill Parcells
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: world of coaching, which is, you know, Bill Parcells would
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: get audien, you know, and I think Bill loved when
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: you would come back to him with conviction, you know
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: about about you know, whatever it was. And so Sean
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  Speaker 1: likes that type of a guy and obviously bo to
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: multi sport athlete, a ton of experience, you know, knows
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: what he likes. Definitely a learning curve, you know with
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: some of the things in Sean Payton's offense, and I
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: think you've seen him grow and mature through that. Yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: I've had many conversations with Bo too. I think just
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just about like preparation
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: and process situation some time within this offseason. A great kid.
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  Speaker 1: Man loves ball and what's would be great.
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  Speaker 3: You definitely see the mental four or two with bone knicks.
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  Speaker 3: This last game against the Giants, I think they were.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: They scored thirty six and the fourth.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Thirty three and the fourth man.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy?
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: Unreal, unbelievable because you thought, like, I'm watching Jackson Dart
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: and he's getting a couple of penalties and that lasting
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this kid is really lighting the NFL on fire.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: And they score relatively quickly. It's like, holy shit, bon
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Nix is about to do just too. Yeah, he's about
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: to do it. If we go travel back down to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: the Bayou a little bit. You got Spencer Rattler. He's
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: a first year starter of South Carolina game cog JP
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: Huffy sitting on the bus with us.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 6: What are you.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: Seeing out of Kellen Moore as his first time being
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: a head coach at the Saints. Spencer Radler seems like
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: he has a lot of success. Then it's like then
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: he throws like two or three picks in a game
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: and the kind of like finding their identity on offense.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: What do you see him from the New Orleans Saints
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Look, I think Spencer Rattler has a lot of unique traits.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I think he throws the ball extremely well. I think
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: he's he has the ability to improvise, to problem solve.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: He's taken off and run and made some exceptional plays
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: with his legs this year. So from that perspective, he
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: has all those traits. I think he's got a little
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: monoxie to him. Look, I've always liked Kellen Moore's systems.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Wherever he's been been a lot of places. Has had
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: to put together offenses for a lot of quarterbacks, and
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he's been really good at is
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: putting together offenses that fit the strengths of the qbs
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: and the personnel around him. I know what's tough as
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: you sit here, because you're like, ah, they're not a
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: one in sixteen. They certainly don't look like one in
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: sixteen when you watch them. They've been in most of
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: their games, like most of their games have come down
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: to a final drive where they had a chance to win, tie,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: certainly extend the game, and a way to win. Look
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: on the flip side, you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: You know they found ways to win. Unfortunately, the Saints
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: just have it right and their records reflect that. But
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I think they're building something there. They've got a ton
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: of pieces on offense, They've got one of the better
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: old lines in football. Defensively, they've got a great core
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: group of guys, giving up too many big plays the
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But otherwise they have all the pieces,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: you know, So I think you just kind of scratch
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: your head. They just haven't found ways to win some
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: of these close ones.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody called you right now, if Kilmore College is
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: I need I need one game, one game at you
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: to show these young bucks, what's what do you think
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: with your competitive drive and you had we'll give you
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: three weeks to train, could you go in and be
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: competitive in an NFL football game today.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Well, now, look, I would know, I would know where
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: to throw it. I just don't know if I could
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: get it there.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, turn out the tape. I know where it's supposed
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: to go.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, now that the right that's that's one. That's one
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: lingering effect from the uh from the shoulder surgery back.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: You know twenty years ago now was doctor Andrews said,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're you're you're gonna be on the
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: fast track now for a degenerative shoulder, and you know
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: at some point this thing is going to kind of
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: take a steep dive. And unfortunately, I think I'm at
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: that point, Like I don't I don't throw with my
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: right arm anymore. I actually throw left handed. I kind
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of started doing that towards actually, just with my kids
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: because I come home after a long day of practice
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: and I didn't have anything left in the right arm
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: and they but the boys want to play catch.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: So yeah, left hand, you throw.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: I throw left handed. I'm hey, I'm I'm pretty I'm
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: pretty mean inside of inside of thirty with this left dude.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: You bring up a unique point though, that a lot
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: of a lot of players don't think about while they're playing,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: is the wear and tear that's taking place in their body.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: Now that you've been at the leaf for a few
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: years now, and you know, my shoulder, I was told
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be on a fast track. What kind of
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: things are you doing to kind of keep your body
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: ahead of the chains so you don't kind of just
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: kind of go downhill? Not just a shoulder from a
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: body standpoint.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now a great question. Look, I I still love
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just love athletics and I love to
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: be active. So man, I play a bunch of racket sports,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: like I played a bunch of Podel pickle. I still like.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I like the mountain bike. I like to you know,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: get in the water and stand a paddle or surf
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: of course, just all this stuff that I do with
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: my kids, you know, athletically. And then look, I like
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: to train. I like to I like to lift heavy
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: weights at least twice a week, you know, especially lower body.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Like once you're a rotational athlete, like I never want
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: to lose. Like you think about what you lose with
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: the aging process. You lose the ability to go fast,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: you lose the ability to recover, and then you just
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: lose the ability to do it, you know, day after day, right,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: and as you stay on top of so like flexibility
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: is important, so like yoga plates, all those things to
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: make sure that I'm staying like pliable. I mean, I
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: still get bodywork and I saw in a cold tub
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: like religiously, and then honestly just to staying strong like
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: I want to. I want to feel like especially part
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: of this is maybe motivation because my boys are getting
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: older and like they walk in the kitchen, they try
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: to size you up, right, don't walk up, don't walk
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: up on me, boy, Yeah, you gotta gotta you got
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta keep pace, man, and some of it they're
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: always eyeing you man like you know so, so I
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's what motivates me. But I
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: just want to. I just want to be able to
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: do all the things that I want to do for
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: as long as I possibly can. I used to use
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: the term at the end of my career prolong my prime.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: I was always trying to prolong my prime with everything
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I was doing. So man, from a training, recovery, all
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: that stuff. It's almost like I'm still playing from that perspective.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I still have that same mentality.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: I love that all right, Time to eliminate some some friends.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: Time to some hearts. Best offensive weapon that you've ever had?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: You got to play with la Danian Thomas and Jimmy Graham,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, Darren Sprolls, Michael to You got to play
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: with a lot of specimens. Yeah, who's your favorite offensive
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: weapon you've ever played with?
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, man, I might say, darren Sproles.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: Oh okay, well these rolls.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: Would you want to call it? Cover Sprolls out of
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: the backfield?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: When he was in Philly and I would have him
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: out in the flat when I was on the Redskins
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: and he wouldn't catch the ball, I'd be like, Hey,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: I'm really glad Sam Bradford did not throw you this
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 4: ball out here. We pat each other on the helmet,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: jog back.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: To the hutches. Yeah. You know what it's like. You
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: can have such a great defensive scheme, right, you can
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: have such a great pressure or you know, pass rush,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: stunt or bracket coverage or whatever you know on tight
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: ends receivers, but like that, running back out of the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: backfield can ruin your day as a as a defense
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: and as a defensive coordinator. So I just I taught,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: you know, talking to our own defensive coordinators when we
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: had sprolls and then just watching you know, his career
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: and obviously what I know about him, he was just
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: such a weapon and a matchup problem and and like
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: we could find ways to beat you in so many,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: so many different ways with him. The other thing too,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: was he didn't get enough credit as a runner yet. No,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: he was not a big guy. I mean he was
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: five seven, one hundred and eighty pounds maybe. But here's
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: the other thing. Will like hard to see him when
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: he's behind lineman right like in the zone, in the
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: zone game, so like, he was slippery, slippery, and man,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: the minute that he like one cut found his lane, boy,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: he was gone, right and then good luck open field
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: tackling him.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: So like, for all those reasons, he just he was
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: a weapon that I like, I call him a generational player,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: like generational if you know how to use him. And
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: as durable as he was. And I'm not even I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: didn't even talk about the special team's game like him
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: returning punts is one of the best punt returners, probably
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: top three, top five of all time, all time. Yeah,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: so yeah, he was.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: He was special and I think too. It's like people
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: don't understand, like, especially when you get in the red
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: zone and that halfback option comes alive. You got to
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: do like one or two things. Like as a coordinator,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: you're thinking, hey, will or any linebacker, it's like, take
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: away the space, stay inside. But everybody knows this running
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: back is gonna win nine times out of ten, So
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: what do you got to do to kind of help
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: with that out. You're gonna have to give like a
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: bam call to your edge rusher, so you're kind of
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: taking the edge rusher out of pressure. So if you're
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: aligning him too, hey, let's put him on the side
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: where the best pass rusher is and the backer back
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: there's got to give him a bam call. He's giving
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: a bam call. Pass rush is Matt, he doesn't get
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 4: the rush of passer. You're kind of arguing on the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: sidelight and say, bro, I've got like I'm not gonna
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: be able to cut any linebacker. You're not able to
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 4: cover this dude, and you're gonna get because they want
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: to bracket take away the stars everywhere else. But it's
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: a fucking running back out of the backfield. That's honestly
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: the problem because you're not and again you're not lined up,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: you're not on the line of scrimmage to where if
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: you're pressing or you're playing at say five yards, it's
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 4: not like the fundamental coverage of a receiver. This dude's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: coming out of the backfield, who can stem you before
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: he even gets to where he's actually gonna make his cut,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: which makes it insanely harder. Cordators will try to put
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: a safety down. Okay, let's get Willie boy all the game,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: or let's get this backer who probably can't cover out
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: of the game. You'll put a safety in and they
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: show you still ten times out of ten, it's just
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: not gonna happen because it's not a it's not a
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: routine covered snap. It blows my mind and it'll always
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 4: piss me off.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 11: Dree.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: You can tell that will is he's telling us with
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: so much like fortitude. He's just so like aggressive the
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: way he's talking.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, But you know what, that was the part
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: that I forgot, Like just from a pass rush perspective,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: he is exactly right like whenever sprolls he would line
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: up in the backfield to that week's side, Like all
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, that backer in a heartbeat is giving
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: that call to the end to try to chip them
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: all the way now right, Yeah, that affects the pass rush,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: You know that Thursday Friday when they're going over red
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: zone with Will, They're like, hey, you got sprolls this
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: week this it's keep it inside, And Will was like,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: I got them coaching. I'm looking at the fucker's gotta
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: make me do this.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: I'm looking at.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 10: That.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm telling I'm like, Bro, I'm bamming you, like,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: that's this is what if I get say, trips far gunner,
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: I identify where I'm going to get god right, because
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: not all the time, just at the backs off set.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: But if I know I'm in this situation and I
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: know this is what's coming, I'm fucking baming you, bro,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: like you're gonna hit that dude, stop rushing passion.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Here's the other froll story and this just this kind
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: of just rounds out the total package. So we're playing
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: the Niners back when they had that legit defense. This
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: is like twenty thirteen. Oh yeah, Will, when we're we
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: have the chance to go down and beat them in
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: the end. So right, like we're on a two minute
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: drive and man sprolls is kill him out of the backfield,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: this and that, and then there's this one moment where
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: we all a pass play that's a man beater, and
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: sure enough, here's Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman boy hitting
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: these a gaps right and Sposey's in the backfield. And
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: I remember, like right before the play, I said, hey, bro,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this to you often, but you
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: got a boat. You just got to bow up on
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: this state right now, right like you got to step
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: up and you got to handle this guy. We can
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: deliver this ball down the field and man coverage and
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: you go kick a field, go to win this game.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: And dude, he steps up, and hey, those dudes were
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: oh yeah Bowman, oh yeah yeah, like the best.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: Of the yeah, one of the best pandems of all time.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Right, that's who everybody was watching. And Sposi comes up
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: and wow, right right in the chest of Bowman and
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: and just holds him off for long enough, right, so
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: we can deliver the ball down the field and man coverage,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: like Jimmy Graham bidding field goal rains kick this game winner.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: But again, like that's that's the other part of being
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: like a back that goes probably un you know, unappreciated.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: You know, you talk a lot about what they can
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: do out of the backfield, You talk about the run game,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: but at times they got step up and deliver a
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: blow on a guy and allow you to you know,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: get the ball down the field the big situation. And
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: suppose he was always willing to do that at five
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: seven a buck eighty. Yeah, I love that pund dogs, Yeah.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: I love that. Bud light question. Yeah, let's get out
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: of here, all right, Drew. We all know everyone would
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 3: do anything for an ice cold, crisp bud light.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: If you could have a bud light with anybody in
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: the world, past or present, who would it be.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a good one.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna say, uh, it's just the first
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: name that came to mind. I'm gonna say, Roger Stallbach.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: Roger stab Yeah.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I just we were at the Cowboys Commander's game yesterday.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: It was my son's birthday and his godfather is Brian Schotheimer.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: So we were there. We were there watch watching the uh,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys play, and I remember I remember and
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: stallbuck before the game, and I was just thinking, like
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: one of the one of the all time greats, one
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: of the all times legends. There's actually a great story
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: I sang the uh take me out to the ball
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: game at Wrigley Field with Roger stallback back when I
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: was in college. That that that that that's the story
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: for another time. Yeah, but anyway, he's he's one of
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: my all time favorites and cowboy legend. And I just
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: saw him yesterday, so that was the first name that
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: came to mind.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: I love it. Hey, we appreciate it, Drew. Thank you
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: for coming on. Thank you for sharing all those stories.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 4: You're an absolute legend, Hall of famer, all the fun stuff.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the boy.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 4: They're out over here, just pointing at the chair on
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 4: the bus. We'd love to have you on the bus
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: one day. But thank you for your time.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Bro, absolutely, man. Thanks guys, appreciate you.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: Just give right a plus drink. Appreciate you, Drew, have
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: a go on, man, Thank you very much.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a guy.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: That was fun? Why what dude? It was fun?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: Were you guys able to hear some of that. Yeah,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: did he was fun. That was definitely one where I'm
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: checking the time. I'm like, we're only gonna have time
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 4: for a few more. But like stories like that you'd
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: love to get into, or just his lead. Yeah, speeches leadership.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: Like he's like a Payton Manning type right where he
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: would just lose it on players at practice and like
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: send him the sideline.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: That's the thing too, Like him and Sean Payton, they
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 4: were the first. That was the first time I experienced where's.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 6: Mike gonna be still in the pot or we're gonna
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: cut this part?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I could be in the potty. You felt
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: like this is awesome. Yeah, what I was saying to
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: where was I out helping?
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: You were talking about Sean first time you experienced Sean
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 3: Payton and Drew Brees.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talking about his intensity and everything else like that.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: That was when I was on the same So I
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: was kind of the first organization to where Sean Payton
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: would stop practice at any point of practice if something
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: came up, like not just like he had this plan,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: but if a moment came up, or say an incompletion
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 4: or something happens, He's like thinking something in his mind
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: of a situation this could be in and they all
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: stop it, or Drew would have one. Everybody'd stop practice
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: and we would all come up as a team and
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: he'd be breaking down the situation. So that's why I
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 4: get fascinated because you also see clips too of Drew
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: Brees and Sean Payton sitting there the night before a
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: game like up late, going through every type of situational football.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking of that type of schooling that bo
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 4: Nix is getting, and it probably will even though he's
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: had so many starts, the difference in college and pros
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: and everything else, to where he's still very much immersed
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: in this like school of Sean Payton, to where he's
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: got the effect of wanting to learn it, but as
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: he continues to digest it, he'll like just continue to
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: get better because of how intense and situational I feel
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: like coach Coach Payton is.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you could see bo Nicks taking that
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: next step because you're right, like college and NFL are
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 3: completely different sports, so there is gonna take some I
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: don't even know Bodenicks played sixty games or whatever many
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: it was, but you see it in that last drive
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: after Jackson Dart has that running for the touchdown. The
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: way he is working the sidelines and with time in
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: the middle of the field, he's from a situational football standpoint.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: He's figuring it out quickly because they know exactly the
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: yardlin that you have to get to. You don't have
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: like the red line on the screen that all of
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: us are watching, and they know like, hey, our kicker
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: is great, best from this area, from this hash he's
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 3: working it. It's it's very impressive to see. So that
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. You're talking about like Sean
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 3: Payton sitting there, he sees the situation that practice, like,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: let's break this down for everybody.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: So they know the situation.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. That's just good coaching.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: Get you juiced up. I can't imagine in those situations
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: where there's like there's no timeouts left, you're in a
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: double wall situation to where you're forcing them to throw
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: the ball to the inside. They might gain yardage, but
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: they're trying to maybe gain yardage and kick a field goal.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Toh.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: It's like, however much time is left on the clock,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: let's call it anywhere between like twelve and sixteen seconds
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: to where it's like there it's a per second margin
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  Speaker 4: on Hey, this isn't good to call double wall yet,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: or we're all gonna this. The call is gonna be
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: double wall to where in college the coaching staff might
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: know this and the players don't. But in the NFL,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 4: like everybody has everybody has to understand what's going on
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: to where they're quizzing you throughout the week and everything else. Hey,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 4: this situation happens, it's very specific, very particular. We're not
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: gonna be able to rep it in the game. We
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: might run at one time and walk through every other
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: week just to stay refreshed on it. But it's like
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: it's those situations where all players have to understand the
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: situational awareness of the NFL.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: And you can tell the Giants were doing that in
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: that last drive because at the one where bo Nick
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: stes it to the middle of the field ends up
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: getting them into field goal range. There's two wide receivers
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: that are running similar routes where it seems like, oh there.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: Might felt like yeah like Courtland, yeah, Courtland, sudden it
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: kind of.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: Goes past him. But in that situation, if you're the
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: if you're dable you're the Giants coach, you need to
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: be telling these guys on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. If we're
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: in this position where I'm making them throw to the
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 3: middle field and we're in that twelve to sixteen second mark,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: one guy makes attack, let's get two or three guys
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: on top of him as well.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: Right, don't get a penalty.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: But lay on him. Let it drag out where they
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: have to kind of push you off, because they kicked
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: that ball with what two seconds left in the clock,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: and what's that They spiked it, right, and so they
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: might not be able to put themselves in a position
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: to spike it if you have not just one guy
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: on there, but one, two, three guys where it's like,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: we got to get this guy off. That's just little
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 3: things you can do when the seconds matter more than
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: anything else and you're forcing the quarterbacks your throats in
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: the middle of.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: The field, right right. I want to say there was
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: a situation like that in college. Gee, did somebody on
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 4: here post a clip of like, you know, somebody catching
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: the ball, he's on the ground, everybody's kind of like
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: laying on him or diving on him.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 5: That was me that posted that, and honestly, it was
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 5: taking a little bit. Everybody was saying I was getting
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: upset with the refs. Really I was mad at our
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 5: play call. But it was before the half. We run
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 5: a play, We're trying to hurry up and clock it,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: and their players were laying on top of us blatantly.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: That was one where it's like, that's a little that's
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 4: where that's where you probably will see a fly because
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: you got to kind of if you get the tackle,
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: make sure on top and just take your time getting up.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 4: But it did seem like a few players they.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: Were just like shoving him down and walking out right.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: That is that is a penalty.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: That should that should absolutely be a penalty. But yeah,
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: that it's that kind of stuff that just kind of
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: detail changes one little thing. Because if you watch that
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: Giants Broncos game, like Giants owned that entire game, had
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: it and then Jackson Dart throws a bad pick late
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter that lets them come back. I
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: don't know what the exact score.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 4: Was that many points to within like the last six minutes.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there were three lead changes in the last six.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 4: Minutes down touchdown, touchdown, touch down.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: Going into the fourth quarter. Bo Knicks had like eleven
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 5: Fantasy points and then he finished with thirty nine.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because that's my other league still lost. But
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 4: when I saw him still have thirty something, because I'm
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: like checking, I'm like, I'm checking the game through Fantasy,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 4: and I did see him have like he didn't have
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: very many points, like well, you know, b Nicks like giants,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: they must be they must be the real deal. And
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: then when I saw I got home in time to
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: watch the end of that game, and they're like four
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: total touchdowns. I got there right when he was running
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: that like QB design run when they scored to go
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: up and then Jackson they go down. A couple you know,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: calls like that, PI calls a little. I thought suspect
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: that they called on Riley Cross an exciting game. Exciting,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: exciting game. We want to save that. I don't know.
• 1:57:27
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• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so let's let's temperate. Let's get to Zach Bond.
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  Speaker 4: with the boys.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy. First off, I know we had a lot of
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: football to get into. But that house, man, something about Forest.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: Green for me really sets the tone. Did you you
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: build this house yourself? Do you paint it yourself? What's
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 10: Did not build it, but we did have it painted. Yes?
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 4: Nice? Nice. Everybody's gotta paint their house.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: Everybody's got to paint their house.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 10: This is that front sitting room that you never use. Yeah,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 10: that's what I'm mean right now?
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get it and that's dialed up man, Brostoff. Congrats
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 3: on the big win.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we needed that one.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 4: Gbot bro So soked to have you. I think you
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: are phenomenal. I think it's super impressive that you're somebody
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: that's been able to move from the outside to the inside.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: I do have to ask Cam Scataboo.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 10: That's one of one of those guys you watch on
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 10: film and you're like, dang, he runs hard, but you
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 10: don't really know until you feel yourself. So I'm glad
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 10: we got him this week. Yeah, yeah, I'll just say that.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 4: And he caught you kind of sideways too. If I'm
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: giving you the benefit of the doubt, I know you
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 4: can run, I know you can hit, but he kind
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: of had you sideways and just watching from the side,
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 4: ain't go seeing you go kvie your oh shiit that money?
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a run across the field and get
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 10: my ass smack type play right there.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: Listen, we got.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 10: I got to the sideline of I'm like, hey, dide
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 10: it look bad.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: That's the only way where you're watching next week. In
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: the position meetings too, like you know, you guys had
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 4: a tough loss, but just sitting there and t or
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: a defensive meeting or position meeting, you're just like, all right,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 4: go ahead, skip through this.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get to that plane, you just put
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 3: your head down hoping we just we just skip over
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: a couple of your buddies looking over at the corner, like, God,
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 3: damn that happened to you. But yeah, what it has
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: the energy and like in that building, you guys obviously
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 3: had a big, big week this week. Jalen Hurts throws
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 3: for a billion yards. Everybody's been saying, you guys can't
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: throw the ball. Everyone's like, hey, this is the best
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: put together team, but we're lacking on deep. There's been
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: so much noise on the outside revolving around the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: What has it been like in the building for you
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: guys keeping the main thing, the main thing?
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the noise in the in the media
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 10: is a lot louder than the noise in the locker room.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 10: Like we get we get to the locker room and
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 10: it's like, what, what's what's the big fuss? Like we're
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 10: winning games for the most part, we're winning games and
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 10: we're doing an overall good job. So I think it's
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 10: all blown out of proportion and just keeping the main thing.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 10: The main thing is the biggest thing winning games.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, when it was the Giants,
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 4: and just from your from your vantage point watching it happen,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 4: the fourth Toush pushes in a row to go score,
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 4: knowing it was like, was it fourth and short? A
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 4: third and short? It's like, okay, we're gonna get two
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 4: opportunities at these you get it, you're the one yard line,
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 4: you continue to just do the Tousch push. I know,
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 4: watching it on TV, I'm sitting there, these dudes are
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 4: really doing four Toush pushes. Yeah.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah. Usually I'm the guy that's like, yep, run it,
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 10: run it again, run it again. But after the third time,
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, all right, we gotta try something different. Yeah,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 10: but the thing is that it works. And if you
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 10: run a play that works, why not keep running it?
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah? You got the Giants second time in three weeks
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: this week? What are the what are some things you
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: can go and watch the film, but from you as
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 3: a player being on that field when you guys play
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: them on Thursday night football, what are the things that
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: they did so well that made it difficult for you
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: guys on defense?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 10: I think just the theme this year has been like
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 10: as defending champions, like we're gonna get everyone's best shot.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 10: Everyone's gonna come at us like with the with their
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 10: best game, like their best game plan, the physicality, their intensity,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 10: and that's what it was that game. So just combating
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 10: that and coming with some swag at home?
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 4: What was the taale?
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 4: Obviously it was a bad taste, But is this a
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 4: game now? You you beat the Vikings, which was a
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 4: massive win for you guys, especially again with all the
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 4: noise offensively, the question marks even defensively, you guys haven't
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 4: played your best football. I know you guys have had injuries.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 4: But once that game is over against the Vikings, is
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 4: there like a salivation going on getting the Giants again
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 4: this quickly after the loss?
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's very rare that you play a team two
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 10: times like that close. Sometimes it'll be like one at
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 10: the beginning of the season and then one at the end.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 10: But to get them this close, it's kind of weird,
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 10: to be honest, But good for us because we lost
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 10: and we get to get our lick back. But yeah,
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 10: I just got to get after it, honestly, because you.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 4: Know, like after New York wins that game in the
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 4: fashion that they did do it, it's like, you see,
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 4: it's like you got all the bulletin board material in
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 4: the world just to be like licking your chops for
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 4: this game. You got the you know, the Create Team Caucasians,
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 4: Jackson Dark Game, Skataboo, they're pot Like Scataboo's out their
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 4: post shirt list, like he's going viral for head button
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 4: walls and shit gets the hit on ozach Bonn. I
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 4: know you're gonna be pissed off, brother, ready to go.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 10: Come on, man, we gotta get our lick back. We're
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 10: too competitive in this game to just lay down and
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 10: take it like that.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 3: Buddy. I want to talk to you real quick about
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: you signing a one year deal for three and a
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: half million dollars with the Eagles. You're approve it deal
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 3: and you became an All Pro in that, Like for
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 3: all the players watching who sit there and they've been
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 3: the situation where they know they can be this caliber
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: of player and they have to go into a prove
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: it deal, Like, what is the mindset? What is the
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: takeover for you to go not only become an All
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 3: Pro guy, but be wearing the green dot for an
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 3: elite defense who wins the Super Bowl and then eventually
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: we're gonna what was this the number was too big
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 3: for the piece of paper. A three year, fifty one
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 3: million dollar contract extension after that, like had to be
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of ups and downs and thought processes when
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: you're leaving the Saints going to the Eagles and that
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: year the offseason, what was that like for you?
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 4: An inside back or two? Yeah?
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, leaving the Saints, I had, I had like two
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 10: paths I could have gone down. I could have like
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 10: stuck with being a special teams guy and played my
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 10: role and done a good job at that and played
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 10: a long time, made some money. But there was something
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 10: in me that was like, man, I know I can play.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 10: I know I can play, whether it's inside or outside.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 10: And I talked with my agent, my wife, my family,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 10: and they're like, give it another shot, Like don't give
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 10: up on yourself just yet. And I didn't know what
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 10: position I was going to play coming to the Eagles
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 10: until I'm at the front door meeting the inside linebacker
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 10: coach's hand, and I'm like, all right, I guess I'm inside.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 10: Let's figure this out. And we had a lot of
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 10: new guys in the culture here, so good, so I
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 10: just jumped right in and started winning games and playing well.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 4: Absolute specimen being a special teams demon because you can run.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting here looking right now. It's what am I
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 4: seeing here holds his high school two hundred meter record
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 4: ran a twenty one point five at two hundred and
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: twenty pounds, Like, are you somebody's sitting there talking shit
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: with the boys on teams when they're talking about who
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 4: the fastest guy is.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 10: They never throw me in that conversation, but I always
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 10: need to get my respect, Like I'm fast too, but
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 10: you can.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 4: Fly, you can fly. I also see that you were
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 4: You play quarterback in high school through for about two
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 4: thousand yards and twenty touchdowns.
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I played quarterback, but I was really just like
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 10: small town athlete, you know, get it in his hands.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 10: Every time I was running the ball, I would drop
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 10: back knowing I'm about to take off and run. So
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 10: it's a lot of a lot of Russian.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 4: We gotta work on him just talking shit like yeah,
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: I was that dude. Yeah, like yeah, but you know.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: You know what he is.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 3: He thinks he's telling you to the real media right now,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: we're going to do an arrogant linebacker thought he was
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 3: the man in high school. Bro, if you're a cat.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming you win both ways on the football field,
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: and you're playing quarterbacks dropping back and it's like, yeah,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: you all know I'm gonna run, but I'm still gonna
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: go off on you guys no matter what.
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah, there was some confidence there for sure.
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you know that little something, you know
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: he had the chin strap, chin strap on buckles, feeling
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 4: like Michael vicked times. Yeah, what kid.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 10: Didn't do that mouthguard hanging out? Yeah that was me.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: What what's your what's your thought process when you look
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 3: at the Big ten and you see the state of
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 3: your alma mater, the Wisconsin Badgers right now? I hate
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 3: doing this. Ooh, but it's tough for Luke Fickle and
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 3: the boys. Man, what's going on there?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you. Man, it's when you think. Let
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 10: me ask you, when you think of Wisconsin football, what
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 10: do you think?
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 3: I think a run game, run game, offensive lineman that
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: all could be in the NFL just three yards and
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: a cloud of dust until sixty forty fifty happens.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: And I'm thinking also thinking linebackers, your guys, defensive front seven.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you're thinking thirteen personnel, twenty one, twenty two
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 10: extra linement corn fed Wisconsin farm Boys.
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, besides watch Nurse.
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, when you watch him, now, that's not what I'm seeing.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 10: That's not what I'm seeing. So I don't know. I
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 10: don't know. I don't want to. I'll keep my comments
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 10: to myself. But we need to win some games.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to say anything. I just know.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 4: For me, like, I was fired up for the Fickle higher.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 4: I thought he was one of the best head coaches
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 4: when he left Cincinnati. So I'm sitting here completely surprised
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 4: that he hasn't been able to get Wisconsin going because
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 4: you guys have been good. I mean, you guys whooped
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 4: our ass, but you guys have been good for a
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 4: long time. I felt running the ball, playing defense. I
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 4: like Fickle, Like, I don't know a whole lot about
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 4: him other than how he did in Cincinnati. And I
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 4: know he's like him and Vrabel were, they're best friends. Yeah,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: so I'm thinking, Okay, he's gonna bring this chip on
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 4: shoulder mentality, like this swagger, this no nonsense, all hard work,
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 4: everything else to Wisconsin. So I'm like, I'm shocked. I'm
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 4: sure like everybody else is just that Fickle hasn't worked
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 10: Part of me was like giving him the benefit of
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 10: the doubt, like, Okay, he's got to get his guys
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 10: in here to Like, Yeah, if we're gonna switch the
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 10: system and switch what we do, like, we need different players.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 10: We can't have these big, old old linemen running the
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 10: spread offense. So maybe just give it some time to
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 10: develop and get some different guys in there.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 3: Exciting whites. You get to play with them on every
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: single down. They took the world by storm last year.
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 3: They end up starting their own podcast. Talk to me
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 3: about what Cooper Dead and Reid Blaking Ship are on
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 3: the field. How are these guys? Are they big communicators?
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: Are these two dudes you hate? Just let them go play.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 3: I want to know about their play style. What kind
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 3: of camaradi we have in the locker room.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll start with Reid. Read is the biggest communicator
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 10: at the safety spot. He like demands the coverage aspect
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 10: of our defense and a really good player. He knows
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 10: what's going on, he knows what's coming. And then Coop
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 10: is just a dog like I do it all. He's
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 10: strong in a run game. Coming up making tackles can cover. Hey,
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 10: the exciting Whites are doing their thing.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 4: They are're putting together a good football team at the
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 4: end of this year.
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 10: What what team am I on?
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 4: I personally I love to claim you. I love to
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 4: claim you and say, Zach bond Is will be our
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 4: green dot on defense. Listen, if you weren't asking me
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 4: and I broke this down myself in December, you'll be
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 4: on the team. And then from there, it's what happens
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 4: whenever you know, guys kind of see it that they can.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 4: You know, I'm not on the Ald White team. I
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 4: want to say, who is the Who's the safety for
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 4: the Ravens?
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 10: Who Hamilton?
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 4: Hamilton? I claimed him a couple of years ago, but
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 4: they were kind of breaking down the footage and he
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 4: said on a plane right after the game that he
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 4: was a part of the All White team. And I'll like, hey, buddy,
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 4: we got you, like he went to Notre Dame. You know,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 4: we get to kind of have them for a year.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 4: So it's more like I'll put the ball in your court.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we love to have you. I'm
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 4: talking the world the red carpet out for your recruiting visit,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 4: there might be a lot more ego and guys trying
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 4: to figure out who's gonna be playing on the roster.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 4: I can guarantee you a starting spot right now on
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 4: the All White squad. You want to have it, you'll
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 4: be there. You got half yourself, you got half the
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 4: secondary already.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 10: You've got to say your parameters. I'm like, what are
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 10: you doing with the mix the mixed guys?
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's usually it's usually if they say it's usually
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 4: if they say the word or not they walk around
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 4: they're saying the word. It's, you know, the kind of
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 4: the language barrier a little bit. That's kind of my parameters.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 4: And now like he seems like a seems like a
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 4: type of guy who's gonna be on the all White
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 4: squad this year?
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 3: Are you so you bringing this up? Are you saying, hey,
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 3: Will Compton, I would like to be on the All
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 3: White team this year. I like to make that squad.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 10: It's it's you guys are the head coaches.
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 4: I guess yeah, trust me, you got you got you
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: because I already got the already got the pitch for you.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 4: You got red, you got Cooper Degen. Riley Moss is
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 4: out there in Denver, super familiar with Cooper Degene. You
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 4: guys are communicating on the back end as well as
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: any any unit in the country. So listen, we would thrive.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 4: We would thrive with you on the old white Hey,
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 4: what's this? I want you to school me up here?
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 4: What is this? What is this run Scape I'm hearing
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 4: about RuneScape? Runescpe? What is this RuneScape I'm hearing about?
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 4: You know, you did a you did a shout out
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 4: for the eagles or social post that's going viral. Yeah,
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 4: you played a big time as a kid.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 10: RuneScape's an old game that I used to play as
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 10: a kid. I think it came out like early two thousands,
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 10: like retro kind of like a World of Warcraft type
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 10: games that I just found out they have on mobile now,
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 10: so I hot back on and really been enjoying it.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 4: Did you ever play?
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 10: You guys play? No?
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: You can tell by Will's pronunciation of the game he
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: hasn't played the game yet. But I also have not
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 3: played the game. You bring up World of Warcraft? Are
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 3: you familiar at all with the oblo.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 10: No, damn, ask him about that.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 4: Ask him about that dinosaur one?
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 3: Oh arc You are you familiar with the game ARC.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 10: I've heard of our part of ARC. I played. I
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 10: played for probably twenty minutes, and I didn't like it.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fair because when you start, you're basically
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 3: in survival mode for the first fifty levels before you
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 3: can essentially sustain a life with these prehistoric animals. It's
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 3: very difficult to do. But I've I've found myself in
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: a very weird, weird world with ARC. My wife's one
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: of my wife's best friends met a guy on ARC.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: They are now married in Canada. It's a long story.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: You have too much, you don't have enough time.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 4: We can talk. My problem with ARC is just that
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: you could build up all these levels, but if some
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 4: crew comes in and takes you over, you're starting from
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 4: ground zero.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: Right, Right, That's why you need to see.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you turn the game off, like you're still
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 4: like sleeping, you're alive.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: You have to like essentially go to bed in the
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 3: game at any point, and it's always I'm not going
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 3: to say the ethnicity that gets you, but there's a
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 3: one there's one ethnicity that always comes and gets your
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 3: ass while you're gone.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 10: I know you're right, You're right, you're right.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 3: But my buddy of my wife's friend, she got married
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: to a guy named Joe who's like gotta be top
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: fifty player in the world. And we meet him via
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: online and now we're like riding around in jet packs
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: like we were.
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 4: We're living cush out there in the art world.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 3: You got to come back and revisit for a second.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 4: I love back in like the old Testament days. You're
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: marrying for like supreme protection. Yeah, and she married in
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 4: to somebody who's the top towns player.
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 3: It's exactly that's exactly what she's doing right now. Uh,
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: talk to me about Vic Fangio. What kind of DC
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 3: are we? Is he like a players coach type of guy?
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: Is he a hard nosed cat and he's got a
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 3: good personality on him, like break him down.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 4: For se like, oh, he could be in a bad
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 4: mood today, let's not jab him a whole lot.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 10: No, he's kind of a player's coach and a like
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 10: a hard nosed guy. He wants everyone to succeed and
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 10: do their best, but at the same time he's like
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 10: gonna get on you to do it. But it's not
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 10: it's direct and indirect at the same time. Like he's
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 10: he'll drill into guys, but then he'll also like throw
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 10: a little shade or jabs. It's all accountability, is what
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 10: it comes down to.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 4: Somebody I'm absolutely terrified by is a Jalen Carter yep Oh.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 4: Is there is anybody saying a word to him after
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys game from week one when he spent Yeah,
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 4: when he when the whole spit thing happened, or is
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: that he probably knows we're just gonna we're gonna let
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 4: the old boy be.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 10: He knew what he did. He knew immediately that what
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 10: he did was wrong. But yeah, we we we went
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 10: up and talked to him, like you can't be doing
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 10: that obviously. But there was a time last year and
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 10: I'm new, so I don't really know. JC is probably
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 10: Game three or four. He does what he does and
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 10: swims out of his gap to make a play. I
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 10: get it, but I in the game in the moment,
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 10: I'm like, you gotta be in your gap, like come on,
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 10: And He's like, don't tell me how to play football, bro,
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 10: And I'm like, hey, yeah, go ahead, Hey, I'll make
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 10: you right.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know what, Jac, You're absolutely right. I should
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 3: have been in your gap in that situation. I saw
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 3: what you were doing there.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 4: Zeb trying to do some like leadership stuff like hey
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 4: hey hey, come on, hey, I need you in this set.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 4: Do that. This is how it hurts the back end. Man,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 4: shut up. He'll teach me how to play football. Hey,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 4: big guy, that's on me. You're right, you know what.
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 10: I really really good dude, though, really good dude, solid dude,
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 10: great football.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 3: No it sounds like a terrifying dude, but a solid dude. Nonetheless,
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 3: this is the guy, tam Yes, yeah, yeah, it's the guy.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 4: He's like, really good dude, Yes, as long as he's
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 4: got my.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: Bright like as he's got my picture like Zach Bond
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: and like five other guys that way over two to
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: eighty walking up to j C being like you understand,
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 3: like we probably shouldn't spit on guys, right, and just
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 3: kind of like waiting to see how he handles.
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 4: Or like when they're walking up to him, like hey,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 4: so ZB, you're going to say are you going to
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 4: say the first like are you going to start the conversation?
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: And yeah yeah, and then ZB walks up He's like, hey, man, Lane,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 3: wanted to tell you something real quick. I just want
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 3: to let you know they just put Lane n Lane
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 3: Johnson under the bus, like you got to handle this.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 10: It's the funniest thing is on like punt Safe when
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 10: we leave our defense out there, just going up to
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 10: the like the right guard and be like, hey, JC,
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 10: that poor.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 4: Bastard's bucklet is just a little bit tight in there,
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 4: right guard And I'm just hearing that, and he big
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 4: dog like, you know we can yeah, yeah, And I
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 4: promise you we're not We are not running up we'ren
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 4: I swear to guy.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 3: Dude, one guy that brought up j C and like
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 3: the hey you got this guy. Awesome guy, but definitely
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 3: you don't want to get on his bad side. Big
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 3: Dom was talking about him when we were at camp.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 3: You don't seem like the guy that Big Dom has
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: to deal with all of the time. But how crucial
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 3: is Big Dom to the Philadelphia Eagles.
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 10: Big Dom is huge. He's got all the little insights
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 10: on everyone. He knows what everyone around the building is doing,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 10: who they're talking to, who they're hanging out with. He's
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 10: he's intertwined not only with the Eagles, but like the
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 10: whole city. He's in there.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down sopranos.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 10: I mean he might be, he might be not confirmed.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 3: Not confirmed. That is exactly he wants. He wants us guessing.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 4: It's one of those I feel like big Doms, like
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 4: the noise could be super loud around the Eagles the
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 4: locker room. It's like it's louder than it is in
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 4: the locker room. But if you want to know something,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 4: you just go up like, hey, big Dom, do we
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 4: have this? Is everything kind of figured out with so
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 4: and so or between these guys and just kind of
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 4: like a nod. Yeah, we gotta take Carol.
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Dom's always a guy. It's gonna yeah, Yeah, I'm
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 3: unhandling it. I'm handling it, no problem.
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 4: Should we do a bud light question?
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 4: Like question, all right, Zach. People would do anything for
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 4: an ice cold bud light, no doubt. Umm having a
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 4: bud light with somebody who is somebody that you'd love
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 4: to sit down and have an ice cold bud light with,
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 4: whether it's past present, somebody that you just love to
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 4: have a few beers with, some conversations, some fun, could
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 4: be anybody, anybody.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 10: I'll keep it in the football world and I'll say
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 10: Darren Rizzy, the special teams coordinator for the Broncos. Yeah,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 10: no shit, great dude, great dude, awesome dude. He was
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 10: my coordinator with the Saints. Yeah. I would definitely have
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 10: more than one bud light with him.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 4: Dude. He always had the vibes high. When I was
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 4: again there for a couple of coffee. You go into
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 4: the special teams meeting and that you guys would have
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: shirts going on for plays that get made, and everybody
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 4: seemed to love this dude. And then when he was
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 4: the interim head coach, what was it a couple of
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 4: years ago where he stepped in Yeah last year, Yeah,
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 4: last year and out of the gate. I want to
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 4: say the Saints. They ended up winning a couple of
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 4: games with them.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 3: It always happens an interim head coach except for the Titan.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 10: Just a great dude, Just a great dude, especially.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 4: When it's a special teams coordinator too. So you two
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 4: played together with the Saints. I don't know, if I
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 10: Possibly I wasn't. I wasn't with you. I was like
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 10: right after you, yeah, because you were you were there
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 10: in twenty nineteen.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen was when I was there in training camp
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 4: for a moment, I was ready to light the world
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 4: on fire, but you know, I caught a little ankle.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 3: Spray, little ankle spray. Had to get that.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 10: Down.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like alex ads alone was down and they
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 4: had I want to say, maybe a couple like inside
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 4: backers that were down. So I ended up getting brought
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 4: in around the third preseason game. Went into the fourth
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 4: preseason game to get reps at like one base before
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  Speaker 4: we got ready for Week one because they needed a
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  Speaker 4: base mike backer basically essentially until Alexandzeloni's shoulder got right.
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  Speaker 4: And then I went down in that fourth preseason game.
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  Speaker 4: It which sucked because the vibes of the Saints seemed awesome,
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  Speaker 4: The locker room seemed the all time and Rizzy he
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  Speaker 4: was talking about like guys just everybody like that was
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  Speaker 4: a fun organization. For the moment I was there at
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  Speaker 4: practice was fun everything. Yeah, and uh then after that,
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  Speaker 4: I got a little injury settlement and then they that's
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  Speaker 4: when they traded for Keiko Alonso and then Alexanderloni comes
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  Speaker 4: back nights with the Lions, like playing some good ball, gotcha.
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  Speaker 10: But yeah, it seems like everyone that leaves the Saints
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  Speaker 10: is playing good ball right now? All right, everyone, everyone
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  Speaker 10: that leaves the Saints has a seat on their chest
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  Speaker 10: playing playing good football.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then the old guard, the captains like Cam Jordan
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  Speaker 4: and the Mario Davis like they're still sticking around, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like, fuck boys, we've got to put some good
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  Speaker 4: ball together right now. We got our teeth have been
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  Speaker 4: cutting this organization for two all.
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  Speaker 10: No doubt about tough times down there, Zach.
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  Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on the show man. This has
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  Speaker 3: been awesome. I can't wait for December when Will comes
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  Speaker 3: out with this all white, all black team. I'm assuming I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't do I'll do the other sides for everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry, all white team, that's right. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 3: think the line right now, the futures line is minus
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  Speaker 3: what thirty one and a half?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think truly, I don't think it's that
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  Speaker 4: deep at all. I promise you we got a squad
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  Speaker 4: and we get better each and every year a new
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  Speaker 4: dB comes in the league.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, do you think that's where you're light? Always?
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  Speaker 10: Department always?
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  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, one thousand percent. I mean, think of
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  Speaker 4: what other position group are we potentially light in like
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 4: we're deep along the trenches. We got second level players.
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  Speaker 4: We got us you know, tight in. We got guys
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 4: like a wide receiver. Surprisingly, we got some good depth there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Pooka Nakoula. He hasn't said nothing over the last couple
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 4: of years. So well I've been able to claim him
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  Speaker 4: and get away with it.
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  Speaker 10: That's that's that he's probably that is between the Paully's.
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  Speaker 3: The Paulis are fair game.
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking Polly he was what a fifth round guy? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so that's e shinder type of grinder mentality.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ran a little slower, little slower forty like just
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  Speaker 3: put the tape on. He's got game speed. That's when
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 3: you know that's our guy.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's our goal. We gotta do is just filter,
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  Speaker 4: just filter this episode just a little bit more, because
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  Speaker 4: right now we got Zach. We got Zach ball.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna come out. But Zach, how do
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 3: you feel about this? And it's up to you to
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  Speaker 3: be standing here, to be on a plane under away game.
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  Speaker 3: Jac's gonna coach and be like, man, what's this about, dude?
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 4: You got the ball ahead, you got a nice goate
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 4: going on that screams, I got a Harley in the
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  Speaker 4: in the garage, right fun?
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  Speaker 10: Is your hair growing back little?
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 4: I'll show you, Yeah, it's it's grown back pretty well.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 4: I do have kind of the m set and it's
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 4: a little lighter in the cold de sac here. You
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 4: could land a plane on it if you wanted to.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 4: But we're coming back pretty strong right now. In my opinion,
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 4: I like it in my heads.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 10: Are you going to grow grow it out? Or was
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 10: that like a test test to see if you had
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 10: to shave it?
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  Speaker 4: My wife really wants me to grow it out. But
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I really don't mind the short hair life,
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 4: even the bald head. I didn't mind the bold head.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: Look.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 4: Would you think, like you're a fellow bald guy, Like,
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 4: would you love me wrapping the bold squad?
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, it's all about It's all about the head shape.
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 10: Like if you've got a solid head shape, you can
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 10: and facial hair you can, you can join.
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 4: So you think I pull up the head shape, well.
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  Speaker 10: I think it's solid. Once you get a little tan
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 10: up up top there, you'll be all right.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 4: That's the key. That's the key. You get some sunlight
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 4: on it, dude, we appreciate you, man, Thank you for
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 4: taking time on a Monday. Good luck this week, get
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 4: fucking get your guys, revenge back, get the mojo going again.
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 4: In the off season, we would absolutely love to have
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 4: you on the bus so we can do a little
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 4: bit more long form. We're not in the middle of
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 4: the season. Yeah, a couple of things. We gotta, you know,
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 4: you gotta kind of hey, we're having fun on the show,
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 4: but also we're in the middle of the season. But
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: we would love to have you on in Nashville in
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 4: the offseason.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I gotta get down there have to be sick.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 4: Apprecire brother, appreciate everybody, give me one of plus.
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  Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, guys, I love that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Broing on man, it is a pain in the ass
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 3: to do this during the season, so it does mean
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, is this the first virtual one you guys have done.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 4: We've just started kind of doing virtuals. You're kind of
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 4: he's like the first player that we've had after a
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 4: game virtual. We've been trying to get like college coaches
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 4: will hop on. We haven't gotten any NFL coach yet,
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 4: but we've kind of pivoted to where we're gonna get
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 4: some more virtual stuff just because people love talking football.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: Twenty four sevens Yeah this this season, it's either football
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 3: or nothing. If we put anything else out there other
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 3: than the football, they're like, get it out of here.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you're the first player, so we appreciate you.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys are killing it. Dude, I'm sorry I
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 10: missed you during training camps.
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 4: Oh you're good man, good good man, Thank you, brother
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  Speaker 4: of us.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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