Latest / Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler / Hot Parenting Tips with Sean Hayes
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chelsea Handler. Welcome to Life Will Be the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Death of Me a production of I Heart Radio. There
- 0:10Speaker 1: are many things dogs can do to make you feel
- 0:12Speaker 1: like a better human being, like run toward you. For
- 0:16Speaker 1: the record, I'm not one of those people who cares
- 0:18Speaker 1: more about animals than I do about humans, but I
- 0:20Speaker 1: am someone who knows that loving a dog makes you
- 0:23Speaker 1: a kinder and fuller person. I don't have such luck
- 0:29Speaker 1: with babies, and the feeling is fucking mutual. Fucking fuck babies.
- 0:39Speaker 1: So when I realized dogs were receptive to me, I
- 0:42Speaker 1: returned the favor. My obsession with chow chow mixes came
- 0:46Speaker 1: alive only when I rescued Chunk and was told he
- 0:48Speaker 1: was a chow mix. After six years, I decided it
- 0:51Speaker 1: was time for Chunk to have a sibling. And if
- 0:54Speaker 1: Chunk was my first born, and then Tammy was the
- 0:56Speaker 1: step daughter that I loved almost more than my own blood.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Tammy was a tramp, and that's what I respected about
- 1:04Speaker 1: her the most. First of all, she had was a
- 1:09Speaker 1: child mix, and she had the purple tongue to prove it. Second,
- 1:11Speaker 1: everything about her Squeam Guadalajara. She looked like she had
- 1:16Speaker 1: survived more than one street fight, and possibly one with
- 1:19Speaker 1: an animal that wasn't even a dog. She had one
- 1:22Speaker 1: dead ear alopecia on her ass, a very scantily clad tail,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and a gate that hinted she had withstood hip replacement surgery.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Tammy was essentially a builder bear, and I knew that
- 1:35Speaker 1: was some maternal attention from my cleaning ladies and some
- 1:41Speaker 1: serious nutrition also from the cleaning ladies. I could turn
- 1:45Speaker 1: that gate into a fucking swagger. She was exactly the
- 1:49Speaker 1: type of dog who could pull off an ear piercing
- 1:53Speaker 1: We rescued Tammy from a facility in Long Beach, where,
- 1:56Speaker 1: for the record, my cousin Molly said the following, you
- 1:59Speaker 1: can't get that dog. She's the ugliest one here. I
- 2:03Speaker 1: didn't think she was ugly. I thought she gave new
- 2:06Speaker 1: meaning to the term underdog. There was nothing ugly about her. Scrappy, maybe,
- 2:11Speaker 1: like she could have been carrying a pocket knife. But
- 2:15Speaker 1: she needed me, and whatever her name would turn out
- 2:17Speaker 1: to be, Tammy, I needed her right back. Even though Molly,
- 2:21Speaker 1: my cousin, is twelve years younger than I am, she's
- 2:24Speaker 1: smarter and more capable than I'll ever be. But in
- 2:27Speaker 1: this particular instance, I knew I had the ability to
- 2:30Speaker 1: see what would be overlooked by most everybody else. That's
- 2:33Speaker 1: the great thing about Molly. She knows I'm right about
- 2:36Speaker 1: the things that get me in the gut. If I
- 2:37Speaker 1: want to give a stranger ten thous dollars and she
- 2:40Speaker 1: thinks they're going to spend it on crack, just because
- 2:42Speaker 1: I met that person in a correcton, I will defer
- 2:47Speaker 1: to Molly. She'll say something along the lines of let's
- 2:51Speaker 1: sleep on that, and if you still feel that way
- 2:53Speaker 1: in the morning, then we'll do it and you'll have
- 2:55Speaker 1: my full support. That means no, But in this instance,
- 3:00Speaker 1: Molly knew I meant business. I was rescuing Tammy and
- 3:03Speaker 1: was going to give her what she needed, some real
- 3:05Speaker 1: life pampering, someone to show her she was special. After all.
- 3:09Speaker 1: When I get dogs, they aren't just rescued by me.
- 3:11Speaker 1: They're getting the love and attention of my cleaning ladies,
- 3:14Speaker 1: my assistance, my dog walker, and everyone else who either
- 3:17Speaker 1: works at my house or meanders through it on a
- 3:19Speaker 1: regular basis. Older dogs are special because they have had
- 3:24Speaker 1: more rejection, their hope is gone, and even though no
- 3:27Speaker 1: one seems to know exactly how old. Any fucking rescue
- 3:30Speaker 1: dog is. When you would adopt an older dog, you
- 3:35Speaker 1: were cramming their last years with love and giving them
- 3:38Speaker 1: the security that comes with knowing that they have a home.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I've always believed you can erase bad memories with twice
- 3:44Speaker 1: as many good ones. Maybe a racism the right word.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Maybe dim is a better word. After the people at
- 3:51Speaker 1: the rescue center cleaned up Tammy, the two women handling
- 3:54Speaker 1: her adoption told me that she could be a really
- 3:56Speaker 1: beat up four year old, or she could be twelve yea,
- 4:07Speaker 1: and then I should ask my vet for clarification when
- 4:10Speaker 1: she had her first check up. When the rescue presented
- 4:14Speaker 1: Tammy dusk, they had placed a little pink bow in
- 4:17Speaker 1: each ear, the full bodied ear and the limp one.
- 4:21Speaker 1: She looked like a harlot. Once we got her in
- 4:25Speaker 1: the car on her way home, we removed those embarrassing
- 4:27Speaker 1: gender labels from her ears and got down to business.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I looked at Molly, I said, I feel like we
- 4:33Speaker 1: have two names to choose from, Bernice or Tammy. I'm
- 4:37Speaker 1: always like or Destiny. Destiny is totally underused. The first
- 4:45Speaker 1: night I had Tammy home, I had some people over
- 4:47Speaker 1: for dinner. I picked her up and I put her
- 4:48Speaker 1: in my lap facing me, leaving both of her curiously
- 4:51Speaker 1: stiff front paws positioned around each of my hips like Shakira.
- 4:57Speaker 1: My best friend Mary craned her head over the at
- 5:00Speaker 1: her table, amazed and said, is she hugging you right now?
- 5:03Speaker 1: I've never seen her dog do that? Chelsea's making her
- 5:06Speaker 1: Molly told Mary, I wasn't making Tammy do anything. I
- 5:10Speaker 1: was showing her the seating options available to her, and
- 5:15Speaker 1: one option was on my lap, face forward. Chunk, my
- 5:19Speaker 1: older dog would never sit on my lap. Hey, he
- 5:21Speaker 1: was just too big and be he valued his personal space.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I had finally found a dog who did it. Dammy's
- 5:29Speaker 1: teeth looked like she was from London, so when Tanner,
- 5:43Speaker 1: an assistant of mine, took her to her first bet
- 5:45Speaker 1: appointment for a once over, the nurse called and told
- 5:48Speaker 1: me she may need to have all of her teeth removed.
- 5:51Speaker 1: I said, why would that be necessary? All of her
- 5:54Speaker 1: teeth you have to take out and she goes well
- 5:56Speaker 1: because they could all be infected. I said, isn't there
- 5:59Speaker 1: a way to tell which one to are infected and
- 6:00Speaker 1: which ones aren't before you fucking take them all how
- 6:04Speaker 1: will she eat with no teeth? And then she said, well,
- 6:07Speaker 1: we won't take out any of the teeth that aren't infected.
- 6:10Speaker 1: I was like, am I talking to a real life
- 6:12Speaker 1: animal on the phone? What are you saying? Fucking vets?
- 6:17Speaker 1: I mean, I know you mean well, but I need
- 6:19Speaker 1: a straight fucking answer. I was confused by this exchange.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I said, I don't want any teeth that aren't infected
- 6:27Speaker 1: to be removed. Are we clear? Otherwise I'll just take
- 6:30Speaker 1: her to my own dentist on Monday. Poor Tammy. I
- 6:35Speaker 1: wasn't about to let her move into bell Air with
- 6:37Speaker 1: no teeth. Before the dog nurse hung up, I asked
- 6:42Speaker 1: if they had been able to decipher Tammy's age from
- 6:45Speaker 1: her teeth state of affairs. She could be anywhere from
- 6:50Speaker 1: five to twelve. It's hard to say, I said, it
- 6:55Speaker 1: is hard to say. I guess. Is it written somewhere
- 6:59Speaker 1: in the Journal of sin for Dogs to just say
- 7:02Speaker 1: that all rescue dogs are between the ages of four
- 7:04Speaker 1: and twelve? How can it be that a swab of
- 7:07Speaker 1: saliva can determine a dog's genetic heritage? Yet there isn't
- 7:11Speaker 1: a more precise way to determine the age of a
- 7:13Speaker 1: dog at this juncture in modern society, it's a real question.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Tammy would allow me to do almost anything to her body,
- 7:24Speaker 1: and I needed to her to know that she was
- 7:25Speaker 1: going to get so tackled with love that her past
- 7:28Speaker 1: would become a distant memory, replaced by dogging, massages, acupuncture,
- 7:32Speaker 1: and baton twirling. She would let out a low rumble growl,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and I would go in closer, waiting for her to
- 7:38Speaker 1: bite my face off. But she never once bit me.
- 7:41Speaker 1: She bit my sister Shoshanna, and she deserved it. Tammy
- 7:47Speaker 1: knew I was her captor, and that was in her
- 7:49Speaker 1: best interest to just lean in and accept my devotion.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Once I was done showering her with my Harvey Weinstein
- 7:55Speaker 1: affection that's not in the book, that is not in
- 8:00Speaker 1: the book, I added that your guys are sick. You're sick,
- 8:03Speaker 1: ohs all of you. I'm not sucking my dog. Okay.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Once I was done showering her with affection, she'd give
- 8:16Speaker 1: me a final look to confirm that I was done
- 8:18Speaker 1: molesting her, and then scurry off the bed and down
- 8:20Speaker 1: her doggy steps intoto, the doggy bed that she'd usurped
- 8:23Speaker 1: from Chunk one. It's comfortably inside her new bed. She
- 8:26Speaker 1: let out a groan that implied, thank God, that's over her.
- 8:32Speaker 1: I couldn't keep my hands off Tammy. I'd put her
- 8:34Speaker 1: in a seat belt in my lap on the way
- 8:36Speaker 1: to work when I knew she'd be much happier sitting
- 8:38Speaker 1: in the backseat like a normal dog, with her limbs
- 8:42Speaker 1: free and one of her dead ear out the window.
- 8:47Speaker 1: I can be an effusive lover, and after our initial
- 8:50Speaker 1: trial period together, she just learned to deal with my advances.
- 8:54Speaker 1: She was just big enough for it to be imprudent
- 8:56Speaker 1: to pick her up, but that didn't stop me either.
- 8:58Speaker 1: She would immediately stiffen up with her eggs outstretched as
- 9:01Speaker 1: if she were standing, making her look like a stuffed dog.
- 9:04Speaker 1: She was like a taxidermist dream chunk was slim, But
- 9:10Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to describe Tammy's body. It seemed
- 9:12Speaker 1: possible that some of her organs had shifted during one
- 9:15Speaker 1: of her bar fights and then solidified. Her bald spots
- 9:23Speaker 1: filled out within weeks, and her rat like tail became
- 9:26Speaker 1: full bodied. Within her first month at home. She looked
- 9:28Speaker 1: like an ad for nutrition. She even started following me
- 9:31Speaker 1: on stage during the interview segment of my Netflix show,
- 9:34Speaker 1: and would sometimes pop herself up on the little table
- 9:37Speaker 1: between the guests and me. She didn't give a shit
- 9:39Speaker 1: about what anybody thought about her. She just wanted to
- 9:41Speaker 1: make sure we were in the same room, nothing more,
- 9:44Speaker 1: nothing less. She would have been fine if I never
- 9:46Speaker 1: pampered or even pet her, But like most rescue dogs,
- 9:49Speaker 1: if I walked out of the room, she'd follow me.
- 9:51Speaker 1: If I walked into a bathroom, she would open the
- 9:54Speaker 1: door with her nose and stare at me until I
- 9:56Speaker 1: was done. Chuck did the same thing, but it was
- 9:58Speaker 1: much more needy. He'd open the bathroom door. If we
- 10:03Speaker 1: were at work, he'd slide head first under the bathroom
- 10:05Speaker 1: stall and then avoid eye contact with me. I'm like,
- 10:08Speaker 1: oh my god, so embarrassing for both of us. Where
- 10:12Speaker 1: Chunk was refined, Tammy was street. She sits out in
- 10:18Speaker 1: front of the toilet, face to face, as if to say, bitch,
- 10:21Speaker 1: you need me more than I need you. I'm just
- 10:25Speaker 1: keeping an eye on things. Tammy was more like a
- 10:28Speaker 1: security guard. She wasn't quite a spry as Chunk, so
- 10:31Speaker 1: I didn't bring her on trips with me because she
- 10:32Speaker 1: couldn't hop on and off planes. And helicopters, but she
- 10:35Speaker 1: was mentally fit, so there was backlash. That's what led
- 10:39Speaker 1: me to get a third dog. I thought another dog
- 10:41Speaker 1: would help distract Tammy from the fact that Chunk and
- 10:43Speaker 1: I were traveling around the world globetrotting. I didn't want
- 10:47Speaker 1: her to feel excluded, since she was smart enough to
- 10:49Speaker 1: hold a grudge. My friend Kate, who loves animals more
- 10:54Speaker 1: than people. You know the person I'm talking about. Everyone
- 10:57Speaker 1: has one in their life. That's her. She texted me
- 11:02Speaker 1: a picture of a dog that was at a rescue
- 11:03Speaker 1: in Westwood with a message that read, this guy needs
- 11:05Speaker 1: a home and he's part chow chow. This is what
- 11:07Speaker 1: people do when they want me to rescue a dog.
- 11:09Speaker 1: They lie to me and say he's part chow chow.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I went down to the rescue in Westwood and I
- 11:15Speaker 1: picked up our new dog. The girls working there told
- 11:17Speaker 1: me he could be anywhere between four and twelve. I
- 11:27Speaker 1: brought our new family member home and decided his name
- 11:29Speaker 1: would be John. He was sweet and goofy and was
- 11:33Speaker 1: definitely a big puppy. I figured he's probably too. That night,
- 11:37Speaker 1: in an effort to not overthink assimilating my new brood,
- 11:39Speaker 1: I put all three dogs in my bedroom and popped
- 11:42Speaker 1: an edible marijuana keeps families together. I was awakened by
- 11:53Speaker 1: a low rumble that rose to a roar, and then
- 11:56Speaker 1: to something that sounded like there was a werewolf nearby.
- 11:59Speaker 1: When I flipped lights on, Tammy's midsize, corpulent body had
- 12:03Speaker 1: somehow wrapped itself around John's like a contortionist. Thank God
- 12:07Speaker 1: for instinct, because I'm scared to think what I would
- 12:09Speaker 1: have done had I given it any thought. I screamed no,
- 12:11Speaker 1: and then ripped Tammy off of him. Her eyes were
- 12:13Speaker 1: red and she looked like she was wearing red lipstick
- 12:15Speaker 1: to I tossed her tour in my closet. John was
- 12:18Speaker 1: a bigger dog and stronger than I thought, and I
- 12:20Speaker 1: couldn't hold him back from barreling toward her. So I
- 12:22Speaker 1: dove right in the middle of them, grabbed Tammy, pushed
- 12:24Speaker 1: her head first into my closet, and shut the door.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Then I scurried at my feet in my staples sleep
- 12:29Speaker 1: where a bra and a thong, and I fended off John.
- 12:33Speaker 1: It was growling with his nose to the closet. Once
- 12:35Speaker 1: I got him outside my room and closed the door,
- 12:37Speaker 1: I sat down on my bed and thought I was
- 12:39Speaker 1: going into cardiac arrest. I was gasping for bread as
- 12:42Speaker 1: I tried to open my eyes and figure out what
- 12:44Speaker 1: to do next. I was scared of both dogs at
- 12:47Speaker 1: that point. I didn't know what they were capable of.
- 12:49Speaker 1: After seeing Tammy basically shape shift herself into an anaconda.
- 12:56Speaker 1: When I moved my hand in my chest to try
- 12:57Speaker 1: to sell soothe, I realized my bra had been torn
- 13:00Speaker 1: open and one of my breasts had been set loose
- 13:02Speaker 1: and was bleeding. I was so confused and so high.
- 13:08Speaker 1: I was like what. I looked over at Chunk and
- 13:10Speaker 1: he had wrapped himself up in the drapes. I don't
- 13:20Speaker 1: want to call Chunk a pussy, and I don't want
- 13:24Speaker 1: to call Tammy a cunt, but I'm just throwing those
- 13:26Speaker 1: two words out there. I toll. I called Molly and
- 13:34Speaker 1: I told her I was living with a real life Kujo.
- 13:36Speaker 1: And even though I knew it was Tammy's fault, I
- 13:38Speaker 1: was scared to open the door and check on John.
- 13:39Speaker 1: John was an odd man outcome. Get John. It was
- 13:43Speaker 1: twelve thirty am, and while I waited for the coast
- 13:46Speaker 1: to be clear, I texted my assistant Brandon to scan
- 13:49Speaker 1: the security cameras in the morning and save whatever footage
- 13:51Speaker 1: had just been captured for the next time. My friends
- 13:55Speaker 1: and I did mushrooms. John never made the cut because
- 14:01Speaker 1: Tammy took him to task. Chunk knew better than to
- 14:03Speaker 1: fight over territory he'd conquered long ago. He knew he
- 14:06Speaker 1: belonged with me, but he understood there would be random
- 14:09Speaker 1: dogs coming in and out of our lives, just the
- 14:11Speaker 1: way people did. Tammy was with me for three years
- 14:15Speaker 1: and died shortly after the inauguration. She felt the same
- 14:19Speaker 1: way I did about Donald Trump. Molly and I were
- 14:24Speaker 1: in South Africa at the time, and I got the
- 14:25Speaker 1: call while Molly was out getting gifts for her brothers
- 14:28Speaker 1: and sisters. She came back to the hotel room where
- 14:30Speaker 1: I was sitting in a chair and feeling guilty about
- 14:32Speaker 1: traveling so much and not spending more time at home
- 14:34Speaker 1: with the dogs. I rescued. You gave her a good life, Chelse,
- 14:38Speaker 1: Molly said, hugging me. No one else would have ever
- 14:40Speaker 1: adopted that dog. And do you know how much shorter
- 14:43Speaker 1: her life would have been if you'd been home more.
- 14:52Speaker 1: After Tammy died, I had some friends over for a
- 14:54Speaker 1: small memorial service at my house, where we watched the
- 14:57Speaker 1: video footage from my security cameras the night of the attack.
- 15:07Speaker 1: It was the first time I had seen the crime scene,
- 15:09Speaker 1: and Brandon had scored it to the theme song of Rocky.
- 15:14Speaker 1: In it, you can see Tammy actually airborne after I
- 15:17Speaker 1: got her off of John. The four teeth that I
- 15:21Speaker 1: had campaigned to keep ended up biting me right in
- 15:25Speaker 1: the tip. That's called getting titty fucked. Okay. If I
- 15:37Speaker 1: hadn't busted my nut with my topless photo rampage years before,
- 15:40Speaker 1: this video would have been released on all of my
- 15:41Speaker 1: social media platforms on a loop. Watching the video of
- 15:46Speaker 1: Tamy alone pacing in my closet like a large brown
- 15:49Speaker 1: bear reminded me what a force of nature she was.
- 15:53Speaker 1: She was an underdog and a badass. She was a fighter,
- 15:56Speaker 1: and even though I don't spend much time looking in
- 15:58Speaker 1: the rear view mirror, my biggest regret is not ever
- 16:01Speaker 1: getting her ears pierced. Thank you. Okay, We're gonna take
- 16:09Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. Okay, I'm
- 16:15Speaker 1: gonna bring out a friend of mine who's a very
- 16:17Speaker 1: good friend of mine. Actually, I only discovered that minutes ago.
- 16:23Speaker 1: He's a Chicago native and he you may recognize him
- 16:27Speaker 1: for a show he's been on for seventy four years.
- 16:36Speaker 1: It's called Friends. I'm just kidding. It's called Will and Grace.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Please welcome Sean. Hey, Hey, guys, how are you? Um?
- 17:05Speaker 1: I'm so happy to wait wait wait, you brought this
- 17:07Speaker 1: up a couple of times, so I just want to
- 17:09Speaker 1: make sure we're all on the same page. Here, would
- 17:11Speaker 1: you is? What is the amount of money that you
- 17:13Speaker 1: would agree to have sex with another person for? Okay,
- 17:16Speaker 1: because I feel like you have a price. Yes, Well,
- 17:18Speaker 1: everybody has a number. Everybody hasn't know that I do.
- 17:20Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not in a like no, no, everybody
- 17:23Speaker 1: has a number. But I really believe someone said, hey,
- 17:25Speaker 1: here's fifty million dollars. I'm from Saudi Arabia. Can you
- 17:28Speaker 1: blow me? I'd be like, I can't. No, you could, Yeah,
- 17:34Speaker 1: is the answer. Anybody could. Yeah. So there's this thing
- 17:39Speaker 1: called Yeah, there's this thing called bait bus dot com.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Anybody Okay, what do you mean bait? Like the A
- 17:46Speaker 1: I T B A I T bait bus dot com
- 17:49Speaker 1: and on it. Um, it's like this, I don't know
- 17:51Speaker 1: if it's still up and running. Becau this gay bullshit website,
- 17:54Speaker 1: and but when on it, it's this bus that drives
- 17:56Speaker 1: around and this girl sticks her tits out and they
- 17:59Speaker 1: find us drake guy on the street and they're like hey.
- 18:01Speaker 1: She's like, hey, you want to blow a job? And
- 18:03Speaker 1: he's like yeah. So he gets on the bus and
- 18:05Speaker 1: he sits there and she's blowing him, and then she's like,
- 18:07Speaker 1: can I blindfold you? And he's like yeah, So they
- 18:10Speaker 1: blindfold him, and this gay guy comes around and takes
- 18:12Speaker 1: her place, right, takes her place and she started and
- 18:17Speaker 1: he starts blowing him, and eventually he picks the thing up,
- 18:19Speaker 1: and every guy has the same the rat reaction right there,
- 18:21Speaker 1: like get the fook off with me? What the is
- 18:23Speaker 1: going on? And then after he calmed down and everybody's
- 18:25Speaker 1: calmed down, they go, okay, would you would you do
- 18:27Speaker 1: it for two bucks? He's like no, I'm not gonna
- 18:29Speaker 1: let you blow me for you know, blow me for
- 18:31Speaker 1: two bucks? And they're like what about He's like okay, right,
- 18:37Speaker 1: so everybody has a fucking price. I like the I
- 18:39Speaker 1: like the part of that story. Everybody calms down, everybody
- 18:42Speaker 1: calls down and then they have an organized conversation. We're
- 18:48Speaker 1: giving a blowjob, you blow job from a man. Would
- 18:51Speaker 1: you like to move forward with that? Yeah? Yeah, it's
- 18:55Speaker 1: the negotiations like a game show. We should do a
- 18:58Speaker 1: game show. It's called bait bu um. That's not that
- 19:02Speaker 1: doesn't like it's hard to understand what you're saying when
- 19:04Speaker 1: you say bait bus because I thought you said date bus,
- 19:06Speaker 1: and then I thought you said rape bus. Okay, but
- 19:07Speaker 1: here's this. But here's the thing. You're looking at me
- 19:10Speaker 1: and I'm saying bait. So why is it so hard
- 19:14Speaker 1: to understand? You know what I'm saying? All right, let's
- 19:18Speaker 1: ask questions. You know what we should do? Maybe after
- 19:21Speaker 1: unless you hate this, I just thought of this. We
- 19:23Speaker 1: can take questions from the audience, like Carol Burnett, we
- 19:26Speaker 1: don't have it. I would love to, but we don't.
- 19:28Speaker 1: I don't know if we haven't set up you guys,
- 19:30Speaker 1: Can we set up it out and we'll repeat it? Okay? Yeah,
- 19:32Speaker 1: we can probably do that when we have ten minutes left.
- 19:35Speaker 1: All we'll do questions and somebody has them. You can
- 19:37Speaker 1: get up and fashion not right now, great way to
- 19:41Speaker 1: start the show. Show on your fucking asshole. I wanted
- 19:45Speaker 1: to have any questions before we get started. Wait, hold
- 19:51Speaker 1: on a second, what are your questions so we can
- 19:55Speaker 1: direct the way we're gonna behave I mean or like
- 19:59Speaker 1: a bone or killer? No, I just for everybody. Let's
- 20:04Speaker 1: take a moment of silence, everyone out in a journal,
- 20:10Speaker 1: and then we'll read them from the stage at the end. Cheers, God,
- 20:14Speaker 1: cheers again. This is wait wait, wait, this is this
- 20:18Speaker 1: is what we do at work. Say that again. Well, wait,
- 20:21Speaker 1: if we're going to do something, let them take their
- 20:22Speaker 1: phones out and do a boomerang or a fun picture. Okay, okay, right, wait,
- 20:29Speaker 1: let everybody get their phones and then put them away
- 20:31Speaker 1: and keep them out for keeping killer. No, I want
- 20:34Speaker 1: to listen. Just shut the funk up and follow my lead. Okay, ready, one, two, three? Cheers. Okay.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Now we'll put our phones away so we can all
- 20:48Speaker 1: enjoy ourselves. Okay, So let's talk about the book for
- 20:50Speaker 1: a second, and it'll take us off into worlds we
- 20:52Speaker 1: never knew existed. Okay, okay, ready, So, because what if
- 20:56Speaker 1: we find out by the end of this interview that
- 20:57Speaker 1: I'm gay and you're straight. That would be exciting for
- 21:02Speaker 1: so many ladies. What do you mean by the end
- 21:05Speaker 1: of the interview? Um, no, we're gonna is it? Okay?
- 21:09Speaker 1: If I burp? Yes, wait, there we go. I know
- 21:15Speaker 1: I'm burping, particula. It's really hard to have a hot
- 21:18Speaker 1: dog and then come back. You never had las until
- 21:20Speaker 1: in between shows. Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, I don't
- 21:25Speaker 1: know how that could be bad. A hot dog with
- 21:26Speaker 1: a bunch of ship on it, you know what I mean.
- 21:29Speaker 1: But it's it's a it's a dog, it's everything. And
- 21:32Speaker 1: let me And then I had two pieces of chocolate
- 21:35Speaker 1: cake because that daddy's not fat enough. Do you want
- 21:40Speaker 1: some chocolate cake? I love some? Okay, So here we go.
- 21:46Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you my chocolate cake story? Oh?
- 21:48Speaker 1: My god? Here okay. So I had a boyfriend who
- 21:51Speaker 1: was annoying me and he had diarrhea. We were on
- 21:54Speaker 1: vacation for a weekend. Ted Harbert you know him right,
- 21:58Speaker 1: you're saying his name, by the way, who used to
- 22:02Speaker 1: be my boss? Yeah? Yeah, he used to be my
- 22:05Speaker 1: boss too, I bet so imagine doing this to your boss.
- 22:09Speaker 1: That's what makes a story even better. I never thought
- 22:11Speaker 1: about it from that aspect. So he like he was
- 22:14Speaker 1: a very needy boyfriend. He I dated him when I
- 22:16Speaker 1: was like when I started like, uh my show, I
- 22:19Speaker 1: was twenty seven, I started dating him like and I
- 22:22Speaker 1: stayed with him until I was thirty two. He was like,
- 22:25Speaker 1: you know, he was twenty years older than me, and
- 22:26Speaker 1: I was taken. He was like the boss of the company.
- 22:28Speaker 1: And every time he'd come down the show, I was like, oh,
- 22:31Speaker 1: I want to be with him, and then I was yeah,
- 22:34Speaker 1: I was cute. And then I was with him and
- 22:36Speaker 1: I was like, I gotta get out of here. So
- 22:39Speaker 1: but not until I deal at e is up. I
- 22:45Speaker 1: was like, dad at that sign a cheers, Oh my god,
- 22:52Speaker 1: Will and Grace and Grace. So we're in Laguna Beach
- 22:59Speaker 1: or one of those white places you go for a
- 23:01Speaker 1: weekend when you already live in l A and you're
- 23:02Speaker 1: on a vacation all the time. Where should I go
- 23:04Speaker 1: to him? Beach? You're a beach and so he was like, hey,
- 23:08Speaker 1: we were at the pool. We're lying out by the
- 23:10Speaker 1: pool and he's like, hey, do I have diarrhea? Let's
- 23:12Speaker 1: go upstairs. You're like romantic. I was like, why do
- 23:16Speaker 1: I have to go with you for that diarrhea? I
- 23:19Speaker 1: don't want to go upstairs. I'm at the pool. You're
- 23:21Speaker 1: the one who has diarrhea. Don't include me in this,
- 23:25Speaker 1: that's your situation. Why are we were not a couple
- 23:28Speaker 1: in everything? And he's like, just come up with me,
- 23:31Speaker 1: and I was too tired to argue, and I finally
- 23:33Speaker 1: I went up there. So he goes and like fulminates
- 23:35Speaker 1: in the bathroom. It's like, you know, and I'm I'm
- 23:39Speaker 1: sitting in the bed thinking about how ridiculous it is
- 23:41Speaker 1: that a man expects us to just sit around while
- 23:44Speaker 1: they shipped themselves in the next room. I was like,
- 23:47Speaker 1: this is so disrespectful, Like I might now with no
- 23:51Speaker 1: value that I have to listen to this squirt ship
- 23:54Speaker 1: over there. So we had it was it was his
- 23:58Speaker 1: birthday the night before, and so we had over chocolate
- 24:00Speaker 1: cake and he was in the bathroom for so long,
- 24:03Speaker 1: and you know, I was getting so annoyed and that
- 24:05Speaker 1: my imagination got the best of me, and so I
- 24:07Speaker 1: took the chocolate cake and I was like, let me
- 24:10Speaker 1: just spread some on the sheets and see if he
- 24:15Speaker 1: comes out, like if he's confused about you know, because
- 24:18Speaker 1: we've gotten up first thing in the morning, we're hungover
- 24:20Speaker 1: and went down to the pool. Never you know, came
- 24:21Speaker 1: back to the room. I'm like, it's gonna spread this
- 24:24Speaker 1: along the sheets and just see. And then I put
- 24:26Speaker 1: a little bit on the headboard and a little bit
- 24:28Speaker 1: on the wall, like like you guys were having like
- 24:31Speaker 1: crazy monkey sex. It's and I was like, and he
- 24:36Speaker 1: comes out of the bathroom and I'm just like lying there,
- 24:38Speaker 1: I'm like, are you feeling better? And then I just
- 24:40Speaker 1: rolled over casual. I was like, I was like, ted,
- 24:47Speaker 1: you should have been and his look like he didn't
- 24:52Speaker 1: even think about whether he did or not. He assumed
- 24:54Speaker 1: that yes he did. And he's looking at this chocolate
- 24:58Speaker 1: cake that I've run in the no look away look
- 25:01Speaker 1: away right now, and I was like, oh, no, you didn't.
- 25:05Speaker 1: You did this. And then I looked up at the
- 25:07Speaker 1: wall like liver, and he's rolling up the sheets and
- 25:12Speaker 1: he's like, we gotta go, we gotta check out. We're
- 25:14Speaker 1: gonna just take the sheets and put him in the draw.
- 25:18Speaker 1: And so at some point during this evil charade, I
- 25:23Speaker 1: was laughing. I was trying to pretend I was crying
- 25:25Speaker 1: because I was laughing so hard. When he started when
- 25:27Speaker 1: he believed me, I didn't think there was a chance
- 25:29Speaker 1: that he would believe he shot the bed and it
- 25:31Speaker 1: looked like chocolate frostering. I mean, what an idiot, and
- 25:35Speaker 1: you're you're saying it didn't work out, and so he
- 25:41Speaker 1: looks and at one point I was laughing so hard
- 25:44Speaker 1: I had to turn away, you know, and I just protesting.
- 25:47Speaker 1: I'm so sad this happened to you. And he's like
- 25:51Speaker 1: what And then he saw me kind of laugh He's like, who, wha, wha,
- 25:54Speaker 1: what are you doing. I'm like, nothing, nothing. You didn't
- 25:56Speaker 1: you didn't ship the bed. It's not chocolate you should
- 26:02Speaker 1: have eaten. At first, you're like, oh my god, you
- 26:07Speaker 1: ship Wait a minute, you shipped the beds? Because that's
- 26:12Speaker 1: what's what do you do when you don't know the
- 26:14Speaker 1: difference between ship or chocolate taste? Very caddyshack. I saw
- 26:19Speaker 1: that twice, and I saw Porkies, so don't even get
- 26:21Speaker 1: me started. That is the best movie on the planet,
- 26:23Speaker 1: Porkies and then Porky's Revenge, So um, let's see. Okay,
- 26:27Speaker 1: So in the book, we we figured I was just no,
- 26:31Speaker 1: I was just talking to another person. I was going
- 26:33Speaker 1: to keep going. I was gonna keep going because of
- 26:37Speaker 1: the pressure you put on me to fly out. Here
- 26:38Speaker 1: and sit here and ask you questions. So, uh so
- 26:45Speaker 1: in the book, you know, Chelsea and I have Well,
- 26:48Speaker 1: I discovered after reading the book how fantastic it was
- 26:50Speaker 1: that we have many many, many things in common. Were
- 26:54Speaker 1: extremely similar in many many ways. We're both the youngest
- 26:58Speaker 1: of five kids. We both you know, dysfunctional families. We
- 27:02Speaker 1: both suffer from the same Why was your family dysunctional? Like?
- 27:05Speaker 1: What was the what was the bane of your just? Well,
- 27:07Speaker 1: my father was an alcoholic. He left when I was
- 27:09Speaker 1: five years old. My mom raised five kids by herself,
- 27:11Speaker 1: and so we kind of parented ourselves and uh we
- 27:16Speaker 1: although your dad was wasn't an alcoholic, No he should.
- 27:18Speaker 1: That would have helped. Yeah, it's like Trump, It's like,
- 27:21Speaker 1: I have a fucking drink please, right right, You're like,
- 27:25Speaker 1: I took that one over for you. Yeah, my dad.
- 27:28Speaker 1: I had this like love hate hate relationship with my
- 27:31Speaker 1: dad through adolescence and once I came back around to
- 27:34Speaker 1: my parents, once I had moved to California and I
- 27:36Speaker 1: was able to come back and enjoy them for like actually,
- 27:39Speaker 1: like you know, adulthood, I hated them so much growing up.
- 27:42Speaker 1: I was like, you guys are the worst. Look how
- 27:44Speaker 1: you dress your fucking cars? Like they had no organization,
- 27:46Speaker 1: They didn't know where I went to school. I was like,
- 27:48Speaker 1: what I mean? I registered myself for school when I
- 27:51Speaker 1: was in sixth grade. And then I was like, what
- 27:52Speaker 1: I do that? I totally did that. By the way,
- 27:54Speaker 1: I shipped myself in school. Yeah, I keep going, I said,
- 27:59Speaker 1: I read just stirred myself from school for school. So
- 28:03Speaker 1: that's a different story. Okay, Well to me, it's the same.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Keep going. It's fascinating. But I like that. You heard
- 28:11Speaker 1: I ship myself. By the way, when you talk, that's
- 28:14Speaker 1: all I hear. Okay, keep going. I don't know what
- 28:22Speaker 1: I was even saying. You registered your dad was you know, yeah,
- 28:26Speaker 1: I know what I was talking about. So I'll go
- 28:28Speaker 1: back to my so my mom. Okay, so my mom
- 28:30Speaker 1: raised five kids by herself, and when she was two
- 28:32Speaker 1: years old, she had cancer, thank you, and she um.
- 28:36Speaker 1: So when she was two years old, they had to
- 28:37Speaker 1: remove my mom's eye, right, and as she grew up
- 28:40Speaker 1: and she you know, she grows, she had to have
- 28:42Speaker 1: multiple surgeries on her eye. Anyway, So then when she
- 28:44Speaker 1: got older and she had five kids, and we never
- 28:47Speaker 1: ever talked about it because of her Irish Catholic. Right,
- 28:49Speaker 1: you don't talk about any problems, y'all like cover it
- 28:51Speaker 1: with laughter, and we're happy. And we can't even pay
- 28:54Speaker 1: our rents, right and so, and the heats turned off
- 28:57Speaker 1: in the winter in Chicago, and we're like, this is
- 28:59Speaker 1: so and so. So she had an extra eye because
- 29:04Speaker 1: she had a glass eye, like Sandy Duncan. She had
- 29:06Speaker 1: an extra sent right, she had an extra eye up
- 29:09Speaker 1: in her drawer, up in her back in her bedroom. Right,
- 29:12Speaker 1: So we would have friends come over, right, we would
- 29:16Speaker 1: holding out a glass eyes like calling out the science hoologist. Yeah. Absolutely,
- 29:21Speaker 1: I should have put it on a ring, like on
- 29:22Speaker 1: a necklace and just worn it around. But anyway, so
- 29:25Speaker 1: she we had she had an extra eye. And we
- 29:27Speaker 1: went upstairs when she wasn't around when she was out bowling.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Good luck mom bowling and one I like every every
- 29:33Speaker 1: bowl was a spare um. But anyway, so um so
- 29:43Speaker 1: she so friends would come over and we'd take the
- 29:46Speaker 1: eye from upstairs and they knock on the door and
- 29:50Speaker 1: there would be a chain on the door and we
- 29:52Speaker 1: open it up, and you go, who's there with the eye?
- 30:00Speaker 1: I have to freak the fuck hit. I would freak
- 30:01Speaker 1: couple of kids out and they just ran home. So
- 30:04Speaker 1: did she have one eye or multiple eyes? She had
- 30:06Speaker 1: one eye and I'm not even kidding she would she
- 30:08Speaker 1: had one ever since I was born. She would sleep
- 30:10Speaker 1: like this, I'm not even kidding. She would sleep like
- 30:12Speaker 1: this like that and be like mom, mom, Mom, mom,
- 30:22Speaker 1: m mom. Like I didn't know if she was sleeping
- 30:27Speaker 1: or awake or what. And then she'd be and then
- 30:29Speaker 1: she'd wake up. She'd like this, she'd be like this,
- 30:35Speaker 1: and she'd wake up roun and I go, I'm thirsty,
- 30:37Speaker 1: and she's like she'd be like really, and then go
- 30:42Speaker 1: back to sleep. I like that. You wake your mom
- 30:45Speaker 1: with one eye up because you're thirsty, Go get your
- 30:48Speaker 1: own vodka. Right. But my, that was my mom. She
- 30:52Speaker 1: was She was fantastic and she then she um. So
- 30:55Speaker 1: your mom was like a president. I mean, even though
- 30:57Speaker 1: she was away all the time and she worked all
- 30:59Speaker 1: the time, she was president when she was home. Yeah. Yeah,
- 31:01Speaker 1: I felt the love. I felt very cared for. She
- 31:03Speaker 1: was the best mom in the whole wide world. She
- 31:04Speaker 1: started a food bank for the poor and the homeless
- 31:07Speaker 1: when she was, you know, very young, and and she
- 31:09Speaker 1: did she could. She had an option to get a
- 31:11Speaker 1: job as like a high paying secretary or start a
- 31:15Speaker 1: food bank with a nun. And I was like, take
- 31:18Speaker 1: the fucking high paying job. But she no, I'm kidding.
- 31:21Speaker 1: But she was like a saint. And she did this
- 31:23Speaker 1: thing and she it's called the Northern Illinois Food Bank.
- 31:25Speaker 1: It's part of the Second Harvest. Yeah. So she she
- 31:30Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of credits. She started that whole thing,
- 31:34Speaker 1: and so um she uh. Then she died last year
- 31:37Speaker 1: from Alzheimer's. Thank you, thank you. Yes, I say that
- 31:42Speaker 1: for the same reason your dad. When your dad passed away,
- 31:44Speaker 1: it's like you but I was you were so then
- 31:47Speaker 1: you were relieved a bit. Yes, absolutely, so was she.
- 31:49Speaker 1: I'm sure. And so now you have to joke about it,
- 31:52Speaker 1: because if you don't laugh about it, you crying. I
- 31:53Speaker 1: was in therapy for a year or two years about
- 31:56Speaker 1: oh my god, am I being a good enough son
- 31:58Speaker 1: for my mom who has Alzheimer's trying to take care
- 32:00Speaker 1: of her? I don't know. And you cry every day
- 32:03Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, there you know, you're
- 32:04Speaker 1: more in the death of your mom's spirit before her body,
- 32:07Speaker 1: so you cry about that. There's two deaths with Alzheimer's.
- 32:10Speaker 1: There's the death of the person and the death of
- 32:12Speaker 1: the actual body. And so I was mourning my mom
- 32:16Speaker 1: dying all the time. And then once you get over that,
- 32:19Speaker 1: you realize you're caring for this person who you still
- 32:21Speaker 1: love but isn't necessarily still the same person you knew.
- 32:25Speaker 1: You start to find the humor and you start to laugh.
- 32:27Speaker 1: So I would go into her room and she would
- 32:29Speaker 1: there would be a giant turd in the toilet, and
- 32:32Speaker 1: I'd be like, Mom, what do you have to She
- 32:35Speaker 1: she goes, I don't know who did that. That is
- 32:40Speaker 1: somebody comes in. I'm I'm him to God, somebody came
- 32:43Speaker 1: in here and pooped in my toilet. It is They
- 32:46Speaker 1: are turred. It is not my turd. And I was like, okay,
- 32:50Speaker 1: well let's go come with me. We're gonna flush the
- 32:52Speaker 1: other person's turn down the toilet. So it's all hilarious.
- 32:56Speaker 1: It is funny, I mean, in those moments are funny,
- 32:59Speaker 1: like they are so heartbreaking. My mom was in hospice
- 33:01Speaker 1: for six or seven days, and my brothers and sisters
- 33:03Speaker 1: were all sleeping on those like little cots that they
- 33:05Speaker 1: pull in, and my mom was not conscious or with
- 33:09Speaker 1: it at all. She was just there to die and
- 33:11Speaker 1: they would just give her more fine and stop feeding her.
- 33:13Speaker 1: And you're so like, you know, you're just sitting there
- 33:15Speaker 1: like watching someone die. And we're lying on a cot
- 33:19Speaker 1: one night, and it was the night before my mom died,
- 33:21Speaker 1: and my brother Glenn, who's really sarcastic and perverted, was
- 33:24Speaker 1: lying next to me, and my sister Shoshana and my
- 33:27Speaker 1: brother Roy were on the cots across the room. And
- 33:30Speaker 1: he went and put his hand on mine. I go, stop,
- 33:33Speaker 1: what are you doing? And he goes, how long do
- 33:35Speaker 1: you think Roy and Shoshana I've been sleeping together? That's
- 33:42Speaker 1: really funny. And my sister summoned at a chair like
- 33:45Speaker 1: Clinty just so disgusting. But it's like in those moments
- 33:49Speaker 1: that's all you have to hold onto because if you're
- 33:51Speaker 1: not laughing, you're dying too. You know. You just want
- 33:54Speaker 1: to be some relief from the pain and from the exhaustion.
- 33:58Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of people, and I think
- 33:59Speaker 1: what you're saying is true. I think a lot of
- 34:01Speaker 1: people when they go through or they lose somebody, they're
- 34:04Speaker 1: so feel guilty for being it's no fun to see
- 34:08Speaker 1: someone die that's not how they want us to see
- 34:10Speaker 1: them either or remember them. It's worse for us. So
- 34:13Speaker 1: it is a relief when somebody who's suffering dies. It's
- 34:16Speaker 1: much different if somebody snatch out of your life. You know,
- 34:18Speaker 1: that sometimes can be unrecoverable. But I think when somebody
- 34:21Speaker 1: dies slowly, you know, when they finally go, you're like,
- 34:24Speaker 1: thank you. I mean, it's just selfish to be anything else.
- 34:27Speaker 1: I think people think be saying that is bad. It's like, no,
- 34:30Speaker 1: it's compassionate. Yeah, I think they'll too. My mom another
- 34:36Speaker 1: really fast one was I took her out for pizza
- 34:40Speaker 1: one night or her favorite pizza place, and I parked
- 34:42Speaker 1: the car and I we were waiting to cross the
- 34:44Speaker 1: busy street to get to the pizza place and start
- 34:47Speaker 1: of standing there waiting for the cars to clear before
- 34:50Speaker 1: we crossed, and I hit the lock button on the
- 34:52Speaker 1: car and it goes, and my mom thought it was
- 34:55Speaker 1: a car patch. She goes up yours, up yours? Like
- 35:00Speaker 1: who says up yours? Right? Who does? Say? Nobody? Yeah?
- 35:06Speaker 1: And one time there was the gas station was being uh,
- 35:10Speaker 1: you know, robbed up the street from us, and she goes,
- 35:12Speaker 1: did you hear there's a stick up at the gas station,
- 35:16Speaker 1: A stick up from the night from night, what are
- 35:19Speaker 1: you from? Spider Man? In my I was going to
- 35:23Speaker 1: tell you the story about my dad and vodka. So
- 35:24Speaker 1: my parents didn't drink, and so and my brothers and sisters.
- 35:27Speaker 1: I'm youngest of six, so when I grew up, my
- 35:30Speaker 1: brothers and sisters drink a little, but not like I
- 35:33Speaker 1: drank or drink and um. And so my father we
- 35:38Speaker 1: would fight, and you know, we hated each other. Fight
- 35:41Speaker 1: with my dad. I lived with my brother for a
- 35:42Speaker 1: year because I hated my dad so much. I just
- 35:44Speaker 1: thought he was like the devil. And he was a
- 35:47Speaker 1: used car dealer, so he was kind of a shyster
- 35:49Speaker 1: and a liar and you know, and so I just
- 35:51Speaker 1: was like, I hate you. And then finally I went
- 35:53Speaker 1: to move to California. I came back. I flew home
- 35:56Speaker 1: to New Jersey, and I drove to Martha's vineyard, the
- 35:58Speaker 1: five hour drive that we would go to the summer
- 36:00Speaker 1: house every year. That makes us sound like we were rich.
- 36:02Speaker 1: We weren't rich. I don't know how my dug at
- 36:04Speaker 1: that fucking house. So I come home one summer and
- 36:07Speaker 1: I he picked me up from the airport and we
- 36:09Speaker 1: stopped at one of those. We had to drive up
- 36:11Speaker 1: to Martha's Vinior to the ferry boat, and we stopped
- 36:14Speaker 1: at one of those, uh you know, McDonald's rest stops,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and he was him and my mom in this like
- 36:18Speaker 1: dirty gross caravan that they drove, this dodge gold caravan
- 36:22Speaker 1: with like McDonald's breakfast sandwich is stuck there from I
- 36:26Speaker 1: mean it was. My parents were just like not, I'm
- 36:28Speaker 1: up and up, you know, and I wanted to. I wanted.
- 36:31Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to grow up and get
- 36:32Speaker 1: cleaning ladies, like this is mayhem, you know, so life
- 36:37Speaker 1: the first time I had any success, I'm like, I
- 36:39Speaker 1: need a landscaper and a cleaning lady. I don't want
- 36:42Speaker 1: any trouble and a nanny. I don't know for who
- 36:44Speaker 1: but me. Um and he we stopped. We stopped at McDonald's,
- 36:50Speaker 1: and I was grossed out that they were, you know,
- 36:52Speaker 1: because I moved to l A. I'm like, I don't
- 36:54Speaker 1: do that anymore. And my dad's like, oh, sweetie, really
- 36:57Speaker 1: you're not gonna have McDonald's because you've been living in
- 36:58Speaker 1: l A for two months. And we sat and I
- 37:02Speaker 1: was so annoyed and irritated. I was like grossed out
- 37:05Speaker 1: by them. You know, I was in that phase. I
- 37:06Speaker 1: was twenty two, maybe twenty one, and had been away
- 37:09Speaker 1: from them long enough to miss them, but not long
- 37:12Speaker 1: enough to still be annoyed by them. And I remember
- 37:15Speaker 1: we sat down to McDonald's and he took my egg
- 37:18Speaker 1: out of my McMuffin and separated the carbs from the protein,
- 37:22Speaker 1: and I look, I mean, that's the way of the
- 37:25Speaker 1: world's sister, And I was like I always been paying attention.
- 37:30Speaker 1: And then he took out like a cheap bottle of
- 37:31Speaker 1: vodka in a paper bag and put it on the
- 37:33Speaker 1: table and go, sweetie, if we know this whole time,
- 37:35Speaker 1: if we knew this whole time, all you needed was
- 37:37Speaker 1: a little vodka, we would have given it to you
- 37:39Speaker 1: when you were six, because like, this is your mood stabilizer.
- 37:45Speaker 1: We understand you now, right, So now you go, I'll
- 37:48Speaker 1: have the number three with vodka. Yeah, I finally. I
- 37:51Speaker 1: mean in that moment, obviously I wasn't gonna drink that
- 37:53Speaker 1: vodka because I didn't understand the brand. But I in
- 37:57Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, oh, I have parents. In
- 38:01Speaker 1: that ridiculous moment, I'm like they finally hear me and
- 38:04Speaker 1: see me and pay attention to me. So you talk
- 38:06Speaker 1: about in the book a lot of a lot of
- 38:08Speaker 1: the times it's hard to relate to your mom because
- 38:10Speaker 1: she was so sweet. She was she didn't have the
- 38:13Speaker 1: vim and vigor that you had and you wish she had,
- 38:16Speaker 1: And so was it hard to relate to her growing up? Yeah,
- 38:18Speaker 1: it was really My mom was really she was German,
- 38:21Speaker 1: but not like you know, archetypal or yeah, she wasn't
- 38:24Speaker 1: archetypal German. She was like, uh, sweet and like the
- 38:28Speaker 1: opposite of what I'm doing, you know, like shy and
- 38:31Speaker 1: demurror and later what Germans are known for rights sweet, unassuming,
- 38:42Speaker 1: um she and she was really quiet, and I was
- 38:47Speaker 1: so strong and fierce and like I thought that was
- 38:49Speaker 1: my thing, Like that was my personality, that was who
- 38:52Speaker 1: I was. I didn't think it was because of an
- 38:54Speaker 1: incident in my life. I didn't think because my brother
- 38:56Speaker 1: died when I was nine years old that I became
- 38:59Speaker 1: this person. I thought I was up born this way.
- 39:01Speaker 1: I'm a fighter, you know, I'm an independent woman. I
- 39:04Speaker 1: don't need a man, I don't need a baby, I
- 39:06Speaker 1: don't need anything. I'm gonna do this my way, and
- 39:08Speaker 1: I'm never going to rely on a human being in
- 39:10Speaker 1: my life again. Because my brother when I was nine
- 39:12Speaker 1: years old, said he would come back. He was going
- 39:15Speaker 1: on vacation and he'd come back to Martha's vineyard in
- 39:17Speaker 1: a week. And he never came back. He died. So you,
- 39:20Speaker 1: immediately at nine years old have trust issues. Yeah, immediately,
- 39:23Speaker 1: that is the blueprint for you as an adult, Like
- 39:26Speaker 1: you stopped growing at that age when you were that small,
- 39:29Speaker 1: I have the exact same thing. Yeah, I mean I
- 39:32Speaker 1: didn't have any family. Remember my dad leaving when I
- 39:34Speaker 1: was five? How did did he say goodbye? I remember
- 39:37Speaker 1: my dad coming. I remember him slamming uh the oven
- 39:42Speaker 1: door because he made something, just came home to eat
- 39:44Speaker 1: something to eat and didn't speak to anybody. And then
- 39:47Speaker 1: he was leaving the family, and my mom said, I
- 39:52Speaker 1: remember it so vividly. She said, aren't you even going
- 39:55Speaker 1: to say goodbye to your kids? And he literally went
- 39:59Speaker 1: and he turned to around and gave me like the
- 40:01Speaker 1: most idiotic club and then he left and I watched
- 40:05Speaker 1: him drive away, and I was like, I didn't know
- 40:07Speaker 1: what to do with that. I was five years old,
- 40:09Speaker 1: and but I remember it still vividly, and then it
- 40:12Speaker 1: sticks with you forever, and then you don't trust people,
- 40:14Speaker 1: and then, like we talked about before, you have trust
- 40:17Speaker 1: issues about like you test people. You test people for
- 40:20Speaker 1: the rest of your life, Like I'm going to test
- 40:23Speaker 1: you to see if you'll stick around and I can
- 40:25Speaker 1: trust you. Yeah, and if you and if I can
- 40:27Speaker 1: trust you, I'll find a reason not to trust you,
- 40:29Speaker 1: and then you'll be out anyway. That's right. And it's
- 40:31Speaker 1: a stupid, stupid cycle until you become aware of it.
- 40:34Speaker 1: And I am, which is in your book, Well, yeah,
- 40:38Speaker 1: identify it. Identify that your reaction to somebody is like, oh,
- 40:42Speaker 1: like my psychiatrist was like, I am, he has acronyms
- 40:45Speaker 1: for everything. I'm like, I'm going to shove an acronym
- 40:47Speaker 1: up your ass by the end of this. So it's
- 40:50Speaker 1: identification awareness modification. Because I have a problem with patients,
- 40:54Speaker 1: like I think people are stupid and I can't deal
- 40:56Speaker 1: with them, and everyone annoys me, and I'm in a
- 40:58Speaker 1: constant state of agitation. And I told him this, and
- 41:01Speaker 1: I said, I don't know everyone annoys me. I just
- 41:03Speaker 1: want everyone to shut the funk up. Okay, Well, this
- 41:10Speaker 1: sounds like a good time to take a break. Did
- 41:15Speaker 1: your experience with your parents growing up affect you not
- 41:19Speaker 1: wanting to have kids. Yeah, I mean I'm like, they
- 41:23Speaker 1: have six kids and they don't know what the funk
- 41:25Speaker 1: they're doing. So, like I, first of all growing up
- 41:28Speaker 1: in a big family. I don't know if you feel
- 41:30Speaker 1: this way. I think you do, but I would only
- 41:34Speaker 1: have six kids, like I would want a full house
- 41:36Speaker 1: because my brothers and sisters are the ones who kind
- 41:38Speaker 1: of raised me. And I think you feel that your
- 41:40Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, everybody was on their own, right, Yeah,
- 41:43Speaker 1: we kind of parented ourselves. Yeah, so I was parented
- 41:47Speaker 1: by my brothers and sisters, so I needed them. And
- 41:49Speaker 1: so I always like, if I'm gonna have one kid,
- 41:51Speaker 1: i'm gonna have six, and I don't want any. So
- 41:52Speaker 1: let's just get a dog, get a bunch of fake
- 41:56Speaker 1: chow chouse whose age I'll never know. I'm like, I
- 42:00Speaker 1: don't wonder where my dog died when he was four,
- 42:02Speaker 1: because he was seventeen. And you know, I wrote and
- 42:07Speaker 1: I go off on vets in this book, and in
- 42:09Speaker 1: like a jocular way, I'm not seriously like attacking them.
- 42:12Speaker 1: I think it's ethical and nice and moral that those
- 42:14Speaker 1: aren't the right words. But like they have a nice job.
- 42:17Speaker 1: That's good that they're a vet. But I really you
- 42:19Speaker 1: cannot get a straight answer from a veterinarian. There's never
- 42:22Speaker 1: any black or white. It's always like, well, you could
- 42:25Speaker 1: operate or you could not. And you're like, which one
- 42:30Speaker 1: do you suggest? It's really up to you. It's like,
- 42:34Speaker 1: we could give you a real medication or you could
- 42:36Speaker 1: take CBD. I'm like, do you have a preference. He's like, again,
- 42:40Speaker 1: your decision. I'm like, hey, buddy, I'm not a fucking vet.
- 42:43Speaker 1: You are. Me and Scotty, my husband, Scotty, we had
- 42:47Speaker 1: a couple of Austrian shepherds and one of them, his
- 42:49Speaker 1: name is Buzzy, and he started having camp. Well, he
- 42:52Speaker 1: started bleeding out of his nose, so like, oh my god,
- 42:54Speaker 1: we gotta rushian. I like the phrase started having cancer, right,
- 42:58Speaker 1: he started cancer starts totally. Really, I started having cancer
- 43:01Speaker 1: and then my life went to ship. I can't imagine why.
- 43:05Speaker 1: And so he started bleeding out of his nose and
- 43:08Speaker 1: we took him the same thing. The guys like, m M,
- 43:11Speaker 1: I don't know, he's probably maybe just got maybe got
- 43:13Speaker 1: a cut from the fence or something, It's like okay,
- 43:16Speaker 1: and then like three months later, a little part of
- 43:18Speaker 1: his nose was gone, and I was like, I don't.
- 43:22Speaker 1: I don't. I've seen pictures of dogs and I don't
- 43:24Speaker 1: think that's normal. So she, uh, what was they saying? Oh?
- 43:28Speaker 1: So then the cancer just completely started eating his nose away.
- 43:31Speaker 1: And then the doctor's like, well, you could do chemo
- 43:33Speaker 1: or you could not do chemo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
- 43:36Speaker 1: very vague, and like I don't like vague. I like, like,
- 43:39Speaker 1: you know, like I like data. I want science. I
- 43:41Speaker 1: don't want like obscure ship. I like, like, that's why
- 43:45Speaker 1: my therapist was so good, because he was talking about
- 43:47Speaker 1: brains and like in a scientific way, and he's like, oh,
- 43:49Speaker 1: the migdala hippocampus. I was like, yeah, yeah, I can
- 43:51Speaker 1: get on board with that, pretending like I wasn't. I
- 43:54Speaker 1: was there to learn when all I was there there
- 43:56Speaker 1: to test him out, to see if he was a
- 43:57Speaker 1: decent enough therapist that I could actually talk to, Like,
- 44:01Speaker 1: let's talk about your childhood. I was like, no, my
- 44:03Speaker 1: brother died, my mother died, my father will hopefully be
- 44:06Speaker 1: dead by the time this year is over. Because I
- 44:09Speaker 1: just kept living and living and living. It's yeah, yeah, relief.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I mean my dad I was. I mean, it's so
- 44:16Speaker 1: mean that we keep people alive like that, horribly, so disgraceful.
- 44:20Speaker 1: They don't feel dignified. Listen to this. I called some
- 44:24Speaker 1: place in Illinois. I was when I was in l A.
- 44:26Speaker 1: I called some place in Illinois and to find out
- 44:28Speaker 1: the laws about the right to die. You know those
- 44:32Speaker 1: to die right. You can do it in Oregon, you
- 44:33Speaker 1: can um California. Like, if you were diagnosed with a
- 44:39Speaker 1: determinal terminal disease, don't you want to be put down? Yes? Absolutely,
- 44:43Speaker 1: I do too, And I want to be put down
- 44:45Speaker 1: even if I'm diagnosed with like a mediocre disease like
- 44:48Speaker 1: I do. I'm fucking wiped out, you know what I mean, bronchitis,
- 44:51Speaker 1: I am out. Yeah, just put me down. And my
- 44:55Speaker 1: sister is like, we're gonna if you get cancer, God forbid,
- 44:58Speaker 1: we're gonna fight it. I'm like, what do you mean,
- 44:59Speaker 1: we so tros fuck you any anything. I don't want
- 45:05Speaker 1: to fight it. I just want to go. It's fair.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Most you said that you have patience problems too, Yeah,
- 45:14Speaker 1: like sitting through that story, my patience of that part
- 45:21Speaker 1: of that is in the book I Love No Wait,
- 45:24Speaker 1: but patients problems like and these are privileged problems. And
- 45:27Speaker 1: I'm aware of my privilege. Believe me. I just had
- 45:29Speaker 1: a documentary about it. I'm so embarrassed that I might
- 45:31Speaker 1: have to move and leave the country because of my privilege.
- 45:34Speaker 1: And what we don't realize that. Yeah, it's coming out
- 45:37Speaker 1: in the fall and it's called hello privilege. It's me
- 45:40Speaker 1: Chelsea um. But a lot of us don't really understand
- 45:44Speaker 1: the privilege we have when we're you know, white. You
- 45:47Speaker 1: don't get it because you don't see it. Like I
- 45:48Speaker 1: just thought. I thought for everything, and I worked really
- 45:51Speaker 1: hard in my life and I deserved it, like I did.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Never think, oh, wait, what would a girl of color
- 45:55Speaker 1: have done in my situation? Talking about drinking, being rewarded
- 45:58Speaker 1: for drug use and sleeping around like that just doesn't
- 46:01Speaker 1: That wouldn't have been the same thing. And so thinking
- 46:04Speaker 1: about that is important for all of us because it
- 46:07Speaker 1: is a different to be white in this country, in
- 46:10Speaker 1: the world. It's a completely different experience, and we don't
- 46:12Speaker 1: think about it enough. And the thing I learned from
- 46:14Speaker 1: therapy the most is to really understand other people's situations
- 46:19Speaker 1: and not think that your experience is the norm. Right,
- 46:22Speaker 1: do you feel like it's getting better, like the the
- 46:27Speaker 1: the handling of the balance of it, or do you
- 46:30Speaker 1: feel it's getting worse or where do you think it's at?
- 46:33Speaker 1: Because in Hollywood they're doing I think, a really really
- 46:36Speaker 1: great job about hiring women, women of color, um and
- 46:40Speaker 1: different minorities and what they called diverse. I'm just like,
- 46:43Speaker 1: can't they just be called human beings? Why does everybody
- 46:46Speaker 1: that's not white have to be diverse? Why they're just
- 46:49Speaker 1: as equal as anybody else. So I don't know. I mean,
- 46:52Speaker 1: it's a depressing conversation, but it's a necessary one. But
- 46:55Speaker 1: how do you think we're doing I think Hollywood is
- 46:58Speaker 1: ponying up because they have to, And fine, whatever the
- 47:01Speaker 1: reason is. However you get to the party, that's fine.
- 47:03Speaker 1: I think I don't care about people's motives as much
- 47:06Speaker 1: as I care about the action, which I think is important.
- 47:09Speaker 1: But I think it's more of a responsibility for the
- 47:12Speaker 1: people who will have privilege to wake the funk up
- 47:14Speaker 1: and understand that you have a responsibility to people who
- 47:17Speaker 1: don't have privilege and stick your neck out. Don't say
- 47:20Speaker 1: you're not getting involved, get involved. You have to get involved,
- 47:23Speaker 1: you know, like people fought for years and years for
- 47:25Speaker 1: us to have rights, for women to have rights, and
- 47:27Speaker 1: to not act out on behalf of another community that's
- 47:30Speaker 1: been marginalized, or your own community is disrespectful to every
- 47:33Speaker 1: single person before you. Yes, absolutely, Um, I think people
- 47:38Speaker 1: are willing and ready enable, Like people are galvanized now,
- 47:41Speaker 1: Like we were a little bit sleepy and people got comfortable,
- 47:44Speaker 1: myself included. I thought, oh, Barack Obama was the president,
- 47:47Speaker 1: racism is over. Hillary Clinton is going to be the
- 47:49Speaker 1: next president, so feminism is cool too, Like how I
- 47:53Speaker 1: can really party Before we get off, I want to
- 47:55Speaker 1: read a little passage. So these bracelets I'm wearing are
- 47:58Speaker 1: called they say they're not called anything that say I decide,
- 48:00Speaker 1: and their T shirts that say I decide. All the
- 48:02Speaker 1: proceeds go to l g B t Q I A sure,
- 48:06Speaker 1: which I believe should just be que It's too exhausting.
- 48:11Speaker 1: It is a lot of letters, but you know we're
- 48:13Speaker 1: just trying to respect it. You know me too, But
- 48:16Speaker 1: I am one and I just be cue. On the
- 48:27Speaker 1: subject of um, death and loss and grief, I think
- 48:32Speaker 1: everybody in this room has probably been affected by somebody
- 48:35Speaker 1: dying or well, yeah, you have been. And I didn't
- 48:39Speaker 1: take that issue seriously for a long time in my
- 48:41Speaker 1: life because I was successful. I had a great career,
- 48:44Speaker 1: I had everything. I had lots of success, and if
- 48:47Speaker 1: you define that by materialism, I had at all. And
- 48:50Speaker 1: I didn't ever think I had the right to be
- 48:52Speaker 1: upset about anything. And I didn't want to go to
- 48:54Speaker 1: therapy because I thought that was a narcissistic And so
- 48:57Speaker 1: when I finally was when I had to go to
- 48:59Speaker 1: their therapy because I was so angry about the election,
- 49:02Speaker 1: and my therapist explained to me why I was really angry. Um,
- 49:07Speaker 1: I kind of unlocked my brain for the first time
- 49:09Speaker 1: as an adult, and UM, I realized that I was
- 49:15Speaker 1: allowing my brother's death to define my entire existence. Karen,
- 49:19Speaker 1: do you know what page this is on that I'm
- 49:21Speaker 1: looking for? I have Sean's book. I forgot mine, and
- 49:24Speaker 1: it's where the wild things are. Okay, yeah, here it is.
- 49:28Speaker 1: You're gonna get up so you can look at my
- 49:29Speaker 1: ask Shawn, hold on, let me get my camel toe out.
- 49:33Speaker 1: I keep it's like my vagina is getting bigger. Hold on.
- 49:38Speaker 1: I didn't know then that my brother's death was defining me.
- 49:41Speaker 1: I didn't know that I had the ability to say
- 49:43Speaker 1: no to being defined by death. Now I was with
- 49:46Speaker 1: a person, my psychiatrist, who could help me process what
- 49:50Speaker 1: happened and turned the parts of me that acted like
- 49:52Speaker 1: a nine year old into a self actualized adult who
- 49:55Speaker 1: had come to a better understanding of what it means
- 49:58Speaker 1: to dig deep and admit that you are in pain,
- 50:00Speaker 1: thereby beginning the process of relinquishing your pain. I was
- 50:04Speaker 1: in a place where my brother dying no longer how
- 50:07Speaker 1: to define my existence. It's part of who I am,
- 50:11Speaker 1: perhaps the biggest part, and it may have helped steer
- 50:14Speaker 1: me in a certain direction, but it is not all
- 50:17Speaker 1: of me. I defined me. No event or person does this.
- 50:21Speaker 1: I define me. I decide who I am and how
- 50:24Speaker 1: I'm going to behave and I choose to be better
- 50:28Speaker 1: to look at myself more carefully, to trudge deeper, to
- 50:31Speaker 1: think about other people's pasts, and not judge someone for
- 50:34Speaker 1: doing or handling something differently than I would, To understand
- 50:38Speaker 1: my limitations, my shortcomings. That is my growth edge. I
- 50:43Speaker 1: decide who I am. Thank you guys for coming to
- 50:46Speaker 1: the Late Show in Chicago, and thank you to my boyfriend. Okay,
- 50:52Speaker 1: We have added dates to my stand up tour. They
- 50:54Speaker 1: are available on Chelsea Handler dot com or live nation
- 50:57Speaker 1: dot com and the book is Life Will Be the
- 50:59Speaker 1: Death of Me. Thank you for listening. Brand Did you
- 51:02Speaker 1: have anything you'd like to add about I don't know
- 51:05Speaker 1: the LGBT. Oh, we should add that all of our
- 51:07Speaker 1: proceeds for the l g B t Q I a
- 51:09Speaker 1: true colors. We donated all of our T shirt and
- 51:12Speaker 1: bracelet proceeds from the first half of Life will Be
- 51:15Speaker 1: the Death of Me tour. What I do have something
- 51:17Speaker 1: to say? I finally made it out to a live
- 51:18Speaker 1: show and it was incredible. So anyone who has knock
- 51:21Speaker 1: gotten their tickets yet for any of the upcoming stand
- 51:23Speaker 1: up dates, good night, Thank you. Life will Be the
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