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It may be time for 'The Bachelor' to raise its age limit · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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  Speaker 1: Scarable advice shoot. It's hello Lo Lo Lo Lo. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the Naughty but I Show. I'm Robbed Shooter,
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  Speaker 1: your host. I'm a celebrity gossip columnist here in New York,
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  Speaker 1: in London, so we get all the juiciest best dish
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  Speaker 1: here on the show. And joining me today is one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite people, my friend Donnie meets Cham who's
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  Speaker 1: the executive editor of my site, Naughty Gossip dot com. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: Donnie Darling, how are you? Hello? Hello, Hello, how are
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  Speaker 1: you very well? We love having you joining us now
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  Speaker 1: every Tuesday. So what we're trying to do on the
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  Speaker 1: show is have a different co host every day. Donnie,
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  Speaker 1: you've put your flag on Tuesday, so happy, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being here. What's that I here? It's chimes of
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  Speaker 1: Big Ben, which means only one thing. It is tea time.
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor fans have started a petition to have a minimum
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  Speaker 1: age of the show be twenty seven years old. So Donnie,
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  Speaker 1: you know I love the battle of every season. I
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  Speaker 1: say it's my last season. I can't get any more
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  Speaker 1: investment can't do it, and then I sit down it
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  Speaker 1: sucks me back in. However, recently the show has been very,
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  Speaker 1: very unsuccessful in finding love. In fact, the last few
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  Speaker 1: is certainly last season. There is no proposal. I want
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  Speaker 1: a proposal. I do. And so now a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the fans have argued that the problem with the show
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  Speaker 1: is people are too young. So I should give credit
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  Speaker 1: where credits due. Meg Rotter at Cosmo, I love Cosmo Magazine.
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  Speaker 1: I do love it. Meg. I don't know you, but
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  Speaker 1: I know a ton of people at Cosmos. If you're listening, Meg, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: a low alabe. So Mega suggested a solution to this problem,
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  Speaker 1: and it's inspired by one of the most weepy contestants
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  Speaker 1: in the history of the show. So there's a twenty
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  Speaker 1: two year old blogger who's on the show and always crying, crying, crying,
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  Speaker 1: welb Bob, always upset on the show, and Negg is
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  Speaker 1: arguing that she's just too young to be on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Not only is she emotionally not ready to deal with
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  Speaker 1: all this, but also at twenty two years old, you're
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  Speaker 1: not really going on the show to find love. You're
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  Speaker 1: going on maybe to find fame. So this is where
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  Speaker 1: it gets very tricky. I actually agree with Meg. I
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  Speaker 1: think if they put an age limit on the show
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  Speaker 1: or an age minimum, it might get rid of some
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  Speaker 1: people that want fame. Although if you want fame at
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, you probably wanted at fifty two as well.
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  Speaker 1: The type of person that is going to do a
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  Speaker 1: reality show isn't suddenly going to decide that they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to do it anymore. What do you think about this, Donny?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a product of its own success? To all
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  Speaker 1: reality shows suffer with this problem once they're successful. It
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  Speaker 1: fundamentally changes the DNA of the cast. Instead of people
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  Speaker 1: now that want to find love, they want to find fame.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Why do you think there is
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  Speaker 1: about seventy of the but who go on there? It's
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  Speaker 1: basically looking for fame. I do agree that there's good
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  Speaker 1: people out there, and the women I think are actually
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  Speaker 1: looking for love. Yeah, I don't know how you come
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  Speaker 1: up with that number. Very fascinating, is very specific. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the saentage on it. But when I look
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  Speaker 1: at these shows now, you can tell the ones pretty fast.
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  Speaker 1: Who with the troublemakers, who are trying to sell singles
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  Speaker 1: or shoes or T shirts or whatever products they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to sell. I do think, though, I do think that
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  Speaker 1: the best way to combat this is to point out
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  Speaker 1: that very few people who have ever been on the
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  Speaker 1: show go on to lasting fame. Now you love the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: can you name three of them? Colton is the only
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  Speaker 1: one I can, because you have a crucion it beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody else. So I'm the same too. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to be famous, instant fame, maybe going on The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor might help, but it won't ever last to anything.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the biggest Bachelor Bachelor It stars out there,
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  Speaker 1: I could sit next to them on the subway. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure I would recognize them. Which bring us to
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  Speaker 1: our pole question of the day. What age do you
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  Speaker 1: think Bachelor contestants should be? What age do you think
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor contestants should be? Go and vote on our Twitter
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  Speaker 1: page at Naughty Nice Rob or a Facebook page Naughty Gossip,
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  Speaker 1: and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. So,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of love, so Jessica Simpson, she has a new
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  Speaker 1: book and she is telling it now. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: used to work for Jessica, and I worked for Jessica
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  Speaker 1: during this very time period. So I was around to
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  Speaker 1: tell us the story and I will confirm it or
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  Speaker 1: tell you that it's not true. I think it's true.
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  Speaker 1: So Jessica's come out. She's saying that her and John Mayor, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the singer John Mayor, they did date. Well, she says
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  Speaker 1: they broke up close to nine chimes. I believe it.
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  Speaker 1: It's true, on and off again. But you know the
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  Speaker 1: one thing that she says that she kept going back
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  Speaker 1: for the sex. So I, well, this is so telling,
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  Speaker 1: naughty gossip. I love you, Jesse, and Jesse is in
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  Speaker 1: New York now, so jess give me a call, Darling
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  Speaker 1: will have a catchup. But when I was working with Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: she had broke up with Nick. She was dating John.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't treat her well. I'm not saying he's not
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  Speaker 1: a good guy. I don't know him. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I ever met him. He didn't really treat Jessica that well.
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  Speaker 1: She goes on to say, this is how much she
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  Speaker 1: played with her emotions. After they broke up, he went
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  Speaker 1: to her mom and dad and asked for her hand
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  Speaker 1: in marriage. He went to her parents while she had
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  Speaker 1: a new boyfriend to get her back Jesse said he
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  Speaker 1: would break up with her when she wasn't sparkly enough,
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  Speaker 1: when she felt that her light was dimmed. It's interesting
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  Speaker 1: because another one of my clients was Alicia key Is.
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  Speaker 1: I remember being at Radio City. It wasn't an Alicia concert.
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  Speaker 1: It was some big benefit concerts. There was a ton
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  Speaker 1: of artists on the bill. I think it was a
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  Speaker 1: VH one type concert. And John's publicist was there, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember she asked me were sitting at the back
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  Speaker 1: of an empty theater during a dress rehearsal. She said,
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  Speaker 1: John wants to be more famous. He wants to be
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  Speaker 1: in the tabloids, he wants to be in US Weekly
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  Speaker 1: and people. How does he do it? And I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm only said, sorry, Jess date someone famous, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying i'd behind all credit. But Jessica Simpson for
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  Speaker 1: a minute was the most famous woman in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and that's when John dated her. Plus after Jess he
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  Speaker 1: dated Jennifer Aniston and Taylor Swift Day Taylor, she wrote
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  Speaker 1: a song about it. She did write a song about him.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't do her right. Also to jess did say, though,
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  Speaker 1: and I love this that when she was with nicholasche
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  Speaker 1: that relationship became so stale. He didn't even know what
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  Speaker 1: city she was in. And when she was dating John,
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  Speaker 1: at least in the beginning, maybe not the tenth time
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  Speaker 1: he broke up, maybe the second. If she got up
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  Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, he'd asked her where she
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  Speaker 1: was going, And that's sort of attention control she found intoxicating. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: jess I'm glad you're happy now and doing better. This
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  Speaker 1: is an awkward little story on Jessica. So, Nicola Sha
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  Speaker 1: and Vanessa lash were on The Today Show promoting their
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  Speaker 1: new show, and they were talking to Holder. I love Holder,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Lupo, who's our host on Thursdays. He's with Holder
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  Speaker 1: right now interviewing Curse. I know, so we'll get all
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  Speaker 1: the dish on Thursday. So Holder just interviewed Jessica Simpson
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  Speaker 1: and she had to bring it up to Nick. So
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  Speaker 1: she said to Nico, I just interviewed Jessica and she
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  Speaker 1: was really nice about you two, And she said, what
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  Speaker 1: a lovely gift you sent her after she had a baby,
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  Speaker 1: And Nick was like, I didn't send her against on
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  Speaker 1: live TV. Then Nick looked to Vanessa, his wife, and said,
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  Speaker 1: what did you send Jessica, and Vanessa was like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't send Jessica a gift, So I don't think Jessica's lion,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I think she thinks Nick and Vanessa sent
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  Speaker 1: her a gift, but they didn't. So awkward Who sent
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  Speaker 1: her the gift, wasn't it John Mayor? This is so awkward.
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  Speaker 1: Nick went on to say during the interview, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even have her address. Do you keep in touch with Texes?
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  Speaker 1: Of course I do, so am I to do. If
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  Speaker 1: you ask me the phone number or the address of
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  Speaker 1: my ex, I could get it, but I don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously I can't let go. I have like attachment issues,
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  Speaker 1: all right. So during the Super Bowl they have Time show,
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  Speaker 1: which brilliant. I thought it was amazing. But if we
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  Speaker 1: did a ton of reporting on on this song. Yesterday's show,
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  Speaker 1: we had a lot of exclusives. What have you heard?
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  Speaker 1: So it was j Lo and Shakira. Well, one of
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  Speaker 1: the big memorable moments was when Shakira did the tongue wag.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was very sexual. I did do but
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  Speaker 1: it was beautiful and a lot of people were confused
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  Speaker 1: about what it was. Well, if come to find out
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  Speaker 1: the tongue wag is a cultural lesson the gesture, which
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  Speaker 1: is called the zagaruta. Say that, yeah, are if you've
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  Speaker 1: all the r everything, I can't argue that. So when
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  Speaker 1: you wave your tongue at somebody in a bar turing
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  Speaker 1: the morning, you're doing at zagruta. That's a little different. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she's doing it because it's typically used by women in
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  Speaker 1: the Middle East and North Africa during times of celebration.
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  Speaker 1: And she has a connection. Isn't her father Lebanese? She's
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  Speaker 1: half Lebanese. Yes, her name even means grateful in Arabic.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. A little cultural moment. Also too,
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  Speaker 1: we have the numbers from the Super Bowl. The numbers
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  Speaker 1: were huge. They went up from last year's Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: including the halftime show. Maroon five did it last year?
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  Speaker 1: This show? I think it was a better show. But
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  Speaker 1: this show got millions more viewers and guests who shot
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  Speaker 1: to the top of the charts on iTunes? Is it Jlo?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Shakira? Who do you think you would think, Jayla?
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  Speaker 1: It's Shakira. Shakira is the winner of the super Bowl. Sorry, Jennifer,
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer's doing fine to her Her music shot up the charts,
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  Speaker 1: but number one. As we tape this show, it's Shakira,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations and before we take a little break, Royal this
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  Speaker 1: do you know we love the Royal the well. Now
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  Speaker 1: little drama going on with Harry and Megan's security. What's
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  Speaker 1: happening that security? Well, Royal security source told the Son
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  Speaker 1: that Megan and Harry's officers feel like they're being treated
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  Speaker 1: like skivvy's. Let me explain what the British word, So stivy.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a very flattering word and it's a word
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  Speaker 1: that you would use if you were talking about the
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  Speaker 1: help so people that you might take a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of advantage of. If you're treating me like a skivvy,
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  Speaker 1: you're treating me like I'm your slave, or I'm not
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  Speaker 1: your help or I'm getting your coffee or yourself. Think
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  Speaker 1: of the Devil Wears product Hammaranda Priestley treated her assistant.
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  Speaker 1: That's like treating somebody like a skivey. So tell us
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  Speaker 1: the story, Tony. So the guys they're saying they're happy
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  Speaker 1: out there doing their jobs, but they feel like they're
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  Speaker 1: being told to do these meaningal tasks. So they're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be protecting Harry and Megan and little Archie. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, Megan's like, hey, can you run over there
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  Speaker 1: to Starbucks and grab me a little vinty cappuccino. It's
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  Speaker 1: such a dilemma. When I was working with celebrities Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: and Did, they treated the security like security. That was
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  Speaker 1: the only job. They didn't have to get them coffee
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  Speaker 1: or pick up their dry cleaning. They were not friends.
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  Speaker 1: They were purity. And even when you go for dinner
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  Speaker 1: and their security came for dinner, they didn't sit at
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  Speaker 1: the dinner table. They sat across the room watching you. Recently,
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  Speaker 1: Oprah went to the Red Rooster in Harlem. It's a
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  Speaker 1: fabulous restaurant, and I had sources in the restaurant and
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  Speaker 1: they were texting me. So Oprah's security detail came in,
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  Speaker 1: did the sweep of the restaurant, and then Oprah came in,
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  Speaker 1: not with girl, and she came in with other friend.
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  Speaker 1: She's like to have another friend. And so Oprah came
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  Speaker 1: in and had her dinner. But the security didn't sit
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  Speaker 1: at the dinner table with Oprah. It wasn't like a
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  Speaker 1: table for four for two securities. They stood slightly away
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  Speaker 1: by a wall watching I would be like, oh, come over,
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  Speaker 1: have some pasta sit down, but that's not their job.
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  Speaker 1: Are you good at separating work from pleasure? Can you?
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  Speaker 1: Can you be good with boundaries with people you work with?
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  Speaker 1: I'm terrible. I'm not good at it. It is hard
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  Speaker 1: because I knew after girl for like drinks and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But with somebody that works for you or I have
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  Speaker 1: an assistant and I must submit occasionally. They might have
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  Speaker 1: picked up my dry cleaning. Oh I'm not proud, but
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  Speaker 1: they do become your friends. I know friends don't pick
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  Speaker 1: up your dry cleaning. I don't know about this. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. But when we come back,
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  Speaker 1: we've got our pole. Results from yesterday's pole and also
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  Speaker 1: and nicest and naughtiest of the day. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the Naughty but Night Show. I'm rob shooting with my
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  Speaker 1: friend Donnie. Let's go to the pole. I love that music.
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  Speaker 1: So yesterday we asked you should Jlo have done the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl by herself? Should Jlo have done it solo
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  Speaker 1: without Shakira? And the results they are in on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty nine percent of you said no, you liked it
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  Speaker 1: with Shakira. I thought it would be the opposite. I
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  Speaker 1: thought you were going to say yes on Facebook. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Even more impressive on Facebook, seventy two percent of you
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  Speaker 1: said no. You like these ladies together. It was a
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  Speaker 1: great show. Let's have a little look at some of
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  Speaker 1: the comments on Facebook. Hello Hello, Hello, Lauren, Hello Lauren love.
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  Speaker 1: I love that they shared it and they were involved
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  Speaker 1: in each other sets. Ellie, Hello Ellie. Either way, it
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  Speaker 1: was really good Jason. But of course yes spelled b
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  Speaker 1: U T T. I get the joke, Jason, your monster Sharlie,
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  Speaker 1: the Shakers, that's what they call Shakira Shakers could have
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  Speaker 1: done it by herself. So you didn't want Jaylo. You
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  Speaker 1: just wanted Shakira and Sharon. Hello Sharon. Thank god for Shakira.
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  Speaker 1: She had the energy. Wow, isn't that interesting? I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be the other way around, But
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  Speaker 1: you've spoken. Don't forget to vote to on today's pol
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  Speaker 1: will give you the results tomorrow. You can vote on
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  Speaker 1: our Twitter page Naughty Nice Rob or our Facebook page
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  Speaker 1: Naughty Gossip and check back tomorrow for your results. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's here and nicest of the day. So Rob, you
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  Speaker 1: and I have something in common and that we both
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  Speaker 1: love dogs. You have a little Darby beautiful Terror terrier
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  Speaker 1: ter Terror. Well, we also have something in common with
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs player Derek, So forgive us. We're
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  Speaker 1: not we're not sports fan like his name Derek naughty natyah. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well we'll settle for that. So what's Derek done. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he celebrated the Super Bowl, so I'm sure a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them went out for a little drink, a little party,
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  Speaker 1: and had a little fun. Well, he celebrated Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: by paying off the adoption fees for a shelter there
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  Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Oh isn't that beautiful? Hey, Derek, We're
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  Speaker 1: sorry we can't pronounce your name, and we don't really
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  Speaker 1: know what you do on a football field, but we
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  Speaker 1: love what you do. For all. The dog is wolf Wholf.
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  Speaker 1: You're a nicest of the day, And now I'm naughtiest
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  Speaker 1: of the day and naughtiest of the day. It's Miley
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  Speaker 1: Cyrus and her boyfriend Cody Simpson for posting not suitable
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  Speaker 1: for work pictures during the Super Bowl of her giving
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  Speaker 1: him a haircut. Hey, don't be cutting someone's hair if
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  Speaker 1: you're not a professional. Not a good idea, but be
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  Speaker 1: do you need to do it? In a black lacy
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  Speaker 1: lingerie and you need to do it in your bra
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  Speaker 1: and pantis. I'm not sure you do. These two are
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  Speaker 1: gushing over each other. Let me remind you they got
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  Speaker 1: together in October after Miley broke up with her husband.
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  Speaker 1: They have since been divorced. What is it with these
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  Speaker 1: couples that have to constantly be doing stuff in public?
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  Speaker 1: This is not the first time they've done this before.
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  Speaker 1: Cody shared and since deleted picture, so we took it
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  Speaker 1: down of Miley with her hands down his pants. It's
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  Speaker 1: and notice the day, not because of your love. We
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  Speaker 1: get it. It's new love, it's puppy love. We get it.
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  Speaker 1: But really it's just a little too much. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think it's it's a it's thirsty. It's thirsty, very thirsty,
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  Speaker 1: naughtiest of the day. And then for a moment of
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  Speaker 1: rob as somebody that makes a living out of giving
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  Speaker 1: my opinion whether you want it or not, celebrities, no
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  Speaker 1: one is more qualified than me to tell you this secret.
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  Speaker 1: Folks are always going to have something to say about you,
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  Speaker 1: and the more successful you become, the more opinions they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna bombard you with. Think about it. Can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: being Beyonce Ariana Grandy. Can you imagine how many opinions
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  Speaker 1: get thrown at you every second? Well, that's my point.
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  Speaker 1: The more successful you are, the more opinions you are
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  Speaker 1: going to get. But you can't let them influence your
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  Speaker 1: life and what you have to say. The only person
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  Speaker 1: that has a d of the information about what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in your life is you. Only you know everything
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  Speaker 1: about your life, which is why you are the best
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  Speaker 1: person to have an opinion about you are, so you
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  Speaker 1: can value what other people say, but value what you
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  Speaker 1: think more. And that's it for today. Thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for listening to Not Nice with Rob Donnie. Thank
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