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Holly - Holly's Law · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Hi, It's Brian Thomas hosted the fifty five CARSY Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very happy Monday to you. I know you're thinking, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's time for money money with Brian James. We normally
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  Speaker 1: do it at this time, but no, an interesting and
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  Speaker 1: positive development this morning. Holly has returned to the fifty
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  Speaker 1: five KRCY Morning Show. And I think all of my
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  Speaker 1: listening audience is pretty darn familiar with who Holly is,
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  Speaker 1: but to the extent you're not. It was August the
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  Speaker 1: last year. We all recall the brutal, brutal beat down,
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  Speaker 1: the melee that happened in downtown Cincinnati. People are being
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  Speaker 1: prosecuted for that, but the one most awful and heinous
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  Speaker 1: reality about that was the video of seeing Holly get
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  Speaker 1: cold cocked in the face. Holly, welcome back to the
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  Speaker 1: morning show. It's a terrific time to have you on
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  Speaker 1: considering the legislation it's being proposed in Ohio in your name.
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  Speaker 1: But let me start by asking you how are you doing.
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  Speaker 1: I know you suffered some serious injuries in that I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to get an update on your condition.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you so much. I'm doing a lot better.
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  Speaker 2: I still you know, I have some permanent brain damage,
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  Speaker 2: and I had some neurological issues that are probably going
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  Speaker 2: to be permanent as well. I know, for the past
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  Speaker 2: i want to say, eight months, at least three to
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  Speaker 2: five times a week, I've been going to different doctors, specialists,
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  Speaker 2: physical therapists, everything. I still, you know, suffer from migraines
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  Speaker 2: and chronic fatigue and just you know, put my words together,
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  Speaker 2: so memory issues. But I'm just I'm so glad to
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  Speaker 2: be alive, and I'm just glad to finally be healing
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  Speaker 2: and still be able to kind of advocate and bring
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  Speaker 2: awareness to the reality of what happened to me was
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  Speaker 2: so preventable, and I think a lot of the crimes,
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  Speaker 2: violent heinous crimes and murders are also preventable, and so
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  Speaker 2: with Holly's law, I think other lawmakers really saw that
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  Speaker 2: and it kind of put a spotlight on, hey, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on, you know, especially not just Cincinnati, but I
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  Speaker 2: think it's an epidemic going on around the country where
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  Speaker 2: you know, these violent criminals who repeatedly are you know,
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  Speaker 2: their rapists, and they're robbing people at gunpoint and all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff, and they're being out with no bond or
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  Speaker 2: maybe a three hundred dollars bond and then while they're out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on bond, a week later they go and
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  Speaker 2: do the same thing, and then it's like nobody is
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  Speaker 2: really doing anything about it, and a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: cities holding the judges accountable. Right, So that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: been my thing I've been screaming from the rooftops, is
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  Speaker 2: why why were these people out? Why did this happen?
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  Speaker 2: Not just to me, but why is it still happening
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  Speaker 2: all the time? Because if you go to Hamilton County,
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  Speaker 2: I think Clerk of Courts or whatever public record, look
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  Speaker 2: at these people's record. Not one of them was the
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  Speaker 2: first time offender, and there was one guy who had
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  Speaker 2: forty had been arrested forty two times for different things,
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  Speaker 2: and almost all of them have a violent of records.
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  Speaker 2: So that just comes to show that, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: the judges were doing their job, and I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: all judges don't, but these specific judges putting everyone's life
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  Speaker 2: at risk. You know, I look at it as they're
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  Speaker 2: playing Russian Roulette with the innocent people, our lives, our
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  Speaker 2: loved ones, and we didn't sign up for this, and
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  Speaker 2: yet we had no voice, and we had no say before,
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  Speaker 2: and now we have a say because I think so
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  Speaker 2: many people were outraged and they're like, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's let's let's put an end to this,
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  Speaker 2: let's figure out how So I think Holley's Act is
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  Speaker 2: is going to be the first step in the right
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  Speaker 2: direction of accountability.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one way of getting at the judges. And I
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  Speaker 1: think Holly's Act does just that, which it allows you,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio Attorney General to appeal a judge's decision if the
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  Speaker 1: bail seems too low, so the ag can independently look
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  Speaker 1: at it. And I mean nobody else has a position
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  Speaker 1: other than the prosecutor make an argument in front of
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  Speaker 1: a judge. And of course if it's a low bail,
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  Speaker 1: they maybe have ignored the prosecutor's request for a high
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  Speaker 1: bond or no bond. Then enter the Attorney General who
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  Speaker 1: can appeal that decision. So we do have some potential
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  Speaker 1: relief on that in this bill.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, which I'm like, oh, that gives me goosebumps. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I truly believe that's going to save so many people's lives,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not just being dramatic about it.
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  Speaker 2: This truly, I mean these people are. They're murderers, and
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  Speaker 2: they're the sudug and criminals, joined the drive buys and
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  Speaker 2: everything else. And you know, I think that there should
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  Speaker 2: be someone higher up than the judge saying, hey, wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, no, this person has proven that they don't
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  Speaker 2: play well with others. They can't be functioning members of society.
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  Speaker 2: They don't get to go out well and you know,
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  Speaker 2: go hurt more people while they're also a waiting trial
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  Speaker 2: for already hurting someone. So you know, I'm just glad
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  Speaker 2: that now somebody else with a voice of reason can
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  Speaker 2: be like, no, they're going to sit in jail and
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to keeping violent, you know, putting other
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  Speaker 2: people's lives at risk or killing them or whatever. So
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  Speaker 2: this is this is exciting. I think it's a we
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  Speaker 2: should all be very excited about this. And I d
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  Speaker 2: J swearing Jen is the one. He's the lawmaker, who
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  Speaker 2: the state representative who really has just kind of put
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  Speaker 2: it all together and put himself out there and really
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  Speaker 2: has advocated hard for this. So I just want to
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  Speaker 2: say thank you to him and everyone. You know, if
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  Speaker 2: you want the bill to go through and you want
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  Speaker 2: your children to be safe, please call and say tell
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  Speaker 2: them your story if something has happened to you or
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  Speaker 2: you know, if I just think the more that we
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  Speaker 2: talk about it and the more that we call and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is awesome, let's do this, the easier it'll be
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  Speaker 2: to pass it. Well.
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  Speaker 1: Included in addition to the ability of the Attorney General
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  Speaker 1: to appeal, which I think will put some pressure on
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  Speaker 1: the judge during the initial bond hearing to maybe set
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  Speaker 1: a better bond level, knowing full well that the AG
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  Speaker 1: may come in and call them out, which would reveal
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  Speaker 1: them to be a low bond type of judge, which
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  Speaker 1: could impact them in an election. There's an idea. But
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  Speaker 1: this also requires the bond payment to go up from
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  Speaker 1: the ten percent. It's usually like, okay, it's one thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars and they pay up ten percent and that's sufficient.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's going to go up to twenty five percent.
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  Speaker 1: That's another component of Holly's Act that will require a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more stake in the action for the defendant
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  Speaker 1: in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, definitely a spotlight on the judges for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I do think that instead of
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  Speaker 2: ten percent, twenty five percent is going to be better.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're also going to make it a
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  Speaker 2: little bit harder just on you know, the criminal. I
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  Speaker 2: was shown a piece of paper, and I was outraged
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  Speaker 2: by this, But I guess in most courts when someone's arrested,
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  Speaker 2: they have this little half sheet piece of paper they
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  Speaker 2: write down their name, address, phone number. It's basically an
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  Speaker 2: IOU saying yeah, sure, I'll give you your money, you're ten
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  Speaker 2: percent and here's my address. So a lot of these
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  Speaker 2: people are flight risks and they don't show up for court,
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  Speaker 2: and they're out there killing people and robbing them, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And so now they're going to change some of the
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  Speaker 2: way that that's done too, and really make sure that
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  Speaker 2: this person's going to come back to court. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to laugh because this is not a laughing topic.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the reasons you have a bond is
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  Speaker 1: because of flight risk. You know, if the more of
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  Speaker 1: a flight risk you are, the higher the bond should be,
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  Speaker 1: so you're guaranteed to get it back in court. But
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  Speaker 1: the bill also strengthens the consequences for repeat failures, so
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  Speaker 1: it addresses that as well. And the other thing. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, you know, to the extent there's going to
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  Speaker 1: be some sort of you know litigation or you know,
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  Speaker 1: claims of unconstitutionality. I like the concept. Maybe the devil's
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  Speaker 1: in the details, but under the bill, nonprofits like the
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  Speaker 1: Bail Project are going to be limited in their ability
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  Speaker 1: to come in, you know, sort of as a white
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  Speaker 1: knight and pay the bond for the defendant that's standing
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  Speaker 1: in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, I think that that is I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: you brought that up too. So I think all of
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  Speaker 2: these things together are going to really strengthen it, because
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  Speaker 2: I think if it was just one little piece of
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  Speaker 2: the bill that they're trying to pass, it wouldn't make
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  Speaker 2: that much of a difference. But I think all of
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  Speaker 2: these things compiled and I think they looked into the
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  Speaker 2: future and said, okay, how are they going to try
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  Speaker 2: and find loopholes? Let's shut that down. And this is
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  Speaker 2: one of the ways to also shut that down.
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  Speaker 1: Indeed, So where do you know where it is in process?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to put you on this on the
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  Speaker 1: Is it a final, solidified legislation? Are they still hammering
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  Speaker 1: out the details of it? Where are we Because I
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  Speaker 1: certainly want my listeners to get in touch with their
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  Speaker 1: elected officials in Ohiland, get them to push this through, Holly.
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  Speaker 2: So, I think we're still in the beginning stages from
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  Speaker 2: what I'm told, and again I am not a lawyer, lawmaker,
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  Speaker 2: none of the understood normal folk. But from what I'm told,
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  Speaker 2: it's still in the beginning stages. They're still kind of
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  Speaker 2: working out some of the details, you know, because like
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  Speaker 2: you said, there are people trying to already fight it
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  Speaker 2: and say, well, this is unconstitutional. They're innocent until proven guilty.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, first time offenders, of course, in anybody innocent
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  Speaker 2: to sorry, innocent until proven guilty. Let me start over.
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  Speaker 2: But if you have a proven track record that you
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  Speaker 2: are a violent repeat offender, that you know you constantly
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  Speaker 2: are doing these things, well you have different rights. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sorry you don't have the same right because you've proven
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  Speaker 2: that you cannot be a functioning member of society. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's a component of typical bond discussions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: look at the record. Are they a recidivous defender. That's
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons you have a high bond in
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  Speaker 1: the first place, and judges just ignored the reality of that.
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  Speaker 1: And look where we are. We get Holly beaten down
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  Speaker 1: by a recidivous person. Holly, I am glad you're feeling better.
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  Speaker 2: You know what.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you had to be the victim that
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  Speaker 1: brought this so much to people's attention, but your sacrifice
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  Speaker 1: may end up helping so many people. So keep up
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  Speaker 1: the great work. And I'll just add my listeners in
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  Speaker 1: a request to pray for your improved health and will
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  Speaker 1: wait for the passage of this bill. I have a
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  Speaker 1: strong belief that it will get through.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hopefully sooner than later.
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  Speaker 1: Get in touch with the representatives, the officials, and most notably,
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  Speaker 1: will give props a DJ swearing gin for bringing this up. Holly,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time today, and again,
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  Speaker 1: prayers for your good health.