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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wow, what a cool song. I want to get drunk
- 0:01Speaker 1: and have sex. It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty.
- 0:05Speaker 2: One more thing is that two thoughts or one like
- 0:10Speaker 2: longer thoughts all it's all one thought, one thought forever
- 0:16Speaker 2: the whole country starting in nineteen fifty six.
- 0:18Speaker 3: After this, you've got a great all star show going
- 0:20Speaker 3: along with him. But right now, singing Medley some of
- 0:25Speaker 3: the songs that you enjoyed to the extent of boosting
- 0:28Speaker 3: them over the million mark, here is Elvis.
- 0:36Speaker 1: As soon as people going nut? So why am I
- 0:39Speaker 1: plain this thinking about this? That's good, Michael. I'm reading
- 0:45Speaker 1: Bruce Spings Springsteen's memoir actually listening to it, which he
- 0:49Speaker 1: reads himself, and he talked about he's talking about his
- 0:55Speaker 1: childhood and everything like that, and he's a high school
- 0:57Speaker 1: kid and he sees Elvis on the Ed Sullivan Show
- 1:02Speaker 1: and how everything in his life changed for him and
- 1:04Speaker 1: everybody who was young and American and everything like that.
- 1:06Speaker 1: And he talks about the same similar thing happening like
- 1:08Speaker 1: to an even a greater degree when the Beatles went.
- 1:12Speaker 4: On Ed Sullivan.
- 1:12Speaker 1: So this is well trod ground, right, But what is
- 1:15Speaker 1: not well and trod? And I don't understand. Why is
- 1:18Speaker 1: how it's been presented since I was a kid as
- 1:21Speaker 1: obviously a good thing that all of a sudden, all
- 1:27Speaker 1: young people decided my parents are stupid. Everything they've ever done,
- 1:30Speaker 1: the way they dressed, the music they listen to, the
- 1:32Speaker 1: things they care about are all awful, and we're gonna
- 1:35Speaker 1: do something new.
- 1:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Why has it always been presented that way my whole life?
- 1:39Speaker 5: Now?
- 1:39Speaker 1: When I was younger, I bought that because I felt
- 1:42Speaker 1: the same way, because I agreed old people are stupid.
- 1:45Speaker 1: The things they do, the way they dress, the music
- 1:47Speaker 1: they listen to, the way they think is all stupid
- 1:49Speaker 1: and horrible. But it's clearly, in my opinion, been bad
- 1:54Speaker 1: for the country ever since that night in nineteen fifty
- 1:58Speaker 1: six that we went a different direction culturally. Now, Bruce
- 2:03Speaker 1: presents it as what kind of the way I just
- 2:05Speaker 1: described as finally we didn't have to live under the
- 2:08Speaker 1: old rules. Finally we got to blah blah blah, the
- 2:11Speaker 1: sexual revolution. Okay, So has a sexual of a live
- 2:14Speaker 1: revolution helped anybody? Women, especially families, kids, society. Is anything
- 2:20Speaker 1: good come out of this? The only examples I could
- 2:22Speaker 1: come up with would be women being able to work
- 2:25Speaker 1: in the workplace and in a rise to whatever level
- 2:29Speaker 1: your talents will take you. Obviously a good thing. And
- 2:31Speaker 1: civil rights movement obviously a good thing. But did we
- 2:34Speaker 1: need to have all the other stuff to achieve those things?
- 2:38Speaker 1: And is it at some point should we take a good,
- 2:41Speaker 1: long second look at the cultural revolution and whether or
- 2:44Speaker 1: not that was a good idea.
- 2:46Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of things.
- 2:47Speaker 1: The culture in Chinese cultural Revolution where they're dragging people
- 2:51Speaker 1: in the streets.
- 2:51Speaker 4: And beyond very different.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of things. Number One, who was presenting
- 2:57Speaker 5: that idea to you through the hippies generally the media and.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Education people that grew up in that era. Hippies mostly
- 3:07Speaker 1: they mean teachers who like all my my teacher, I
- 3:09Speaker 1: tell my kids this all the time. When I had
- 3:11Speaker 1: music classes in school, we were singing Bob Dylan songs
- 3:15Speaker 1: and protest songs in fourth grade because they were all
- 3:17Speaker 1: hippies at the time. And yeah, you know, in the sixties.
- 3:20Speaker 5: And but they were all people of the left who
- 3:22Speaker 5: were in charge of popular culture and education. And it's
- 3:26Speaker 5: even further today, so it's not surprising that they would
- 3:29Speaker 5: have an unmitigatedly positive view of that. Second thing is
- 3:33Speaker 5: and this is this is funny. We've discussed this on
- 3:36Speaker 5: and off through the years, how if you have, and
- 3:41Speaker 5: it's kind of an outdated reference now, but especially you
- 3:43Speaker 5: know a decade or two ago, if something crazy was happening,
- 3:48Speaker 5: you know, like pornographic you know, the sexually explicit stuff
- 3:54Speaker 5: in schools, or or you know some performer, you know,
- 3:59Speaker 5: what's their name, Miley Cyrus is practically bare ass naked,
- 4:03Speaker 5: rubbing or privates on stage and you said, hey, that's.
- 4:07Speaker 4: That's not good.
- 4:08Speaker 5: People will say, oh, yeah, just like when Elvis shook
- 4:11Speaker 5: his hips on the Ed Sullivan Show.
- 4:13Speaker 4: That's too much for you, old man.
- 4:15Speaker 5: Oh come on the notion that if two steps in
- 4:19Speaker 5: one direction are okay, eleven steps in that direction must
- 4:24Speaker 5: be okay too. Clearly, Well, I'm here in that chapter,
- 4:28Speaker 5: and what part of your life have you discovered that
- 4:30Speaker 5: to be true.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I'm questioning the first step, and I never did when
- 4:33Speaker 1: I was younger. It always seems stupid and repressive and
- 4:36Speaker 1: blah blah blah. What's the advantage of having young Elvis
- 4:39Speaker 1: Presley shaking his hips suggestively on television? What's the upside?
- 4:44Speaker 4: What were we trying to see?
- 4:46Speaker 1: What were we trying to accomplish. I don't understand what
- 4:49Speaker 1: the upside is of all of this different stuff, the
- 4:51Speaker 1: throwing off, the no more listening to the man, and
- 4:54Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I don't feel like it's done.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Us any good. Yeah.
- 4:59Speaker 5: Yeah. My only caveat, it's not a disagreement exactly, is
- 5:03Speaker 5: that a lot of that stuff doesn't lead the culture
- 5:06Speaker 5: as much as they claim it does. It reflects it.
- 5:09Speaker 5: It's like, uh, you know, Trump didn't create these times.
- 5:13Speaker 5: These times created Trump and the you couldn't keep Elvis
- 5:19Speaker 5: off the TV anymore was the reality?
- 5:23Speaker 4: Right?
- 5:23Speaker 1: So I want to go back further because I'm getting
- 5:27Speaker 1: more and more convert because they.
- 5:28Speaker 5: Had such enormous support, and the people who thought that
- 5:31Speaker 5: was too much were an increasingly small percentage society.
- 5:34Speaker 4: Socide.
- 5:35Speaker 1: I'm getting That's what I would suggest, much more conservative
- 5:37Speaker 1: as I get older, as a lot of people do.
- 5:40Speaker 1: And I just think the I think I first heard
- 5:43Speaker 1: it from God. Who's the guy from Commentary magazine, does
- 5:46Speaker 1: a podcast and longtime writer. His dad was a big
- 5:51Speaker 1: deal rights for The New York Post. However, you say
- 5:55Speaker 1: his name, John pod Horitz, Yes, Harvey, you say his
- 5:58Speaker 1: name first. He says the cultural decline in this country
- 6:03Speaker 1: for the last half century. I heard him talking about
- 6:04Speaker 1: that and I thought, wow, is that really that is?
- 6:07Speaker 4: That sounds about?
- 6:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and there has been a tremendous cultural decline in
- 6:12Speaker 1: this country for sixty seventy years now.
- 6:17Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't bicultural decline. If people are not hip
- 6:20Speaker 5: to this idea.
- 6:21Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure. I would have to define it
- 6:23Speaker 1: for myself. What's that Morals? Definitely morals, no doubt that
- 6:28Speaker 1: family structure going along with it. You know, it's the
- 6:35Speaker 1: idea that you could leave your door unlocked and nobody's
- 6:38Speaker 1: going to go in the house, in her house and
- 6:39Speaker 1: steal stuff. I think when that changes to the fact
- 6:42Speaker 1: that you got to have iron bars on your house,
- 6:45Speaker 1: there's been a cultural decline of some sort. I don't
- 6:47Speaker 1: know how. You definitely nail it down, and I don't
- 6:49Speaker 1: know exactly how it ties in with long hair and
- 6:53Speaker 1: you know, free sex, but it goes together somehow. Now
- 6:59Speaker 1: it's inches your notion of which led which that maybe Elvis,
- 7:04Speaker 1: the Beatles, tube tops were all a reflection of something
- 7:09Speaker 1: that was coming anyway. So is that the end of
- 7:12Speaker 1: people caring about the church? I don't know, but it's
- 7:16Speaker 1: all my whole life been presented as thank God that happened,
- 7:19Speaker 1: what a good thing, and I don't see the evidence
- 7:21Speaker 1: of it.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:23Speaker 5: I remember being really intrigued in college by the difference
- 7:26Speaker 5: between liberty and license, and there's subtlety to it. I
- 7:33Speaker 5: you know, a liberty is essentially like Thomas Jefferson's If
- 7:37Speaker 5: what you do doesn't steal my money or break my arm,
- 7:39Speaker 5: it's none of my business. License is much further than that.
- 7:45Speaker 3: That.
- 7:46Speaker 5: Everybody has to put up with a lot more ugliness
- 7:50Speaker 5: than most of us would agree we want, because any
- 7:53Speaker 5: limitation of liberty is just horrible on its face. And
- 7:56Speaker 5: I've done a poor job of explaining it, but we
- 7:59Speaker 5: got halfway there any but.
- 8:02Speaker 4: Part of it.
- 8:02Speaker 5: And this is so politically incorrect, and we almost got
- 8:05Speaker 5: run out of our careers for saying it years and
- 8:07Speaker 5: years ago. Diversity is great and cool and fun in
- 8:12Speaker 5: a lot of ways. And there's nothing I love more
- 8:14Speaker 5: than the story of an immigrant who comes to the
- 8:15Speaker 5: United States and loves this country and achieves their dreams
- 8:19Speaker 5: and talks about this is the line of opportunity and
- 8:22Speaker 5: teaches their kids to be patriots and stuff like that
- 8:24Speaker 5: that warms my heart.
- 8:25Speaker 4: I absolutely love it.
- 8:27Speaker 5: But diversity is a real challenge because if you have
- 8:31Speaker 5: shared cultural values, you can have conversations about is this
- 8:37Speaker 5: too far? Elvis shaking his hips was okay, Miley cyrus,
- 8:43Speaker 5: rubin or crotch in front of teenagers?
- 8:46Speaker 4: Not okay?
- 8:48Speaker 5: If you have no or very fit everywhere, oh porn, Yeah,
- 8:54Speaker 5: including in elementary schools. And if you try to take
- 8:56Speaker 5: those books off the shelves, you're called a censor anyway.
- 9:00Speaker 5: But if you have incredibly watered down common cultural values
- 9:04Speaker 5: such that you really don't have them anymore, it becomes
- 9:09Speaker 5: impossible to have that discussion in a productive way. And
- 9:13Speaker 5: so what you end up is with is we don't
- 9:15Speaker 5: have any standards at all. Anything goes because I can't
- 9:19Speaker 5: agree with my Mexican guy who escaped the cartel in
- 9:23Speaker 5: his town on what good governance is. Not to mention
- 9:27Speaker 5: the Russian Emma Gray who's ripping off the you know,
- 9:30Speaker 5: social services or whatever, not to generalize there are plenty
- 9:34Speaker 5: of Russian folks of Russian extraction or wonderful people, but
- 9:38Speaker 5: all of those different cultural values. How do I convince
- 9:42Speaker 5: all those different constituencies that wait, no, no, no, no, no,
- 9:45Speaker 5: we don't let.
- 9:46Speaker 4: Porn in schools.
- 9:48Speaker 5: See.
- 9:49Speaker 1: I think if I could go back in time, I
- 9:51Speaker 1: think if not showing Elvis being suggestive dancing would keep
- 9:56Speaker 1: porn from being everywhere, I'd be for keeping Elvis off
- 9:59Speaker 1: the deep.
- 10:02Speaker 4: But yeah, but your.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Point, and I don't know if I've ever thought about
- 10:05Speaker 1: this before, heard he may say it. Those kids went
- 10:07Speaker 1: crazy screaming for it. They wanted that, why did they
- 10:10Speaker 1: want to? And that arriving I'm guessing thirty years earlier,
- 10:15Speaker 1: in twenty six instead of fifty six, crowd wouldn't have
- 10:18Speaker 1: gone crazy like that.
- 10:20Speaker 5: Uh yeah, but it was. It was something similar but different,
- 10:23Speaker 5: if you know what I mean in that era. You
- 10:25Speaker 5: have to look at it in the historical context too,
- 10:28Speaker 5: all of the self deprivation and sacrifice and unity, including
- 10:35Speaker 5: uniformity of the World War two era, because we in
- 10:39Speaker 5: the Western world were fighting an existential battle against you know,
- 10:43Speaker 5: the Nazis, the Axis Powers and then later in the
- 10:46Speaker 5: Cold War against the Communists, and then you've got to
- 10:49Speaker 5: get in line, you got to act more like a
- 10:51Speaker 5: soldier in a situation like that. But as those threats receded, kids,
- 10:56Speaker 5: especially young people especially, were like, I'm sick of acting
- 10:59Speaker 5: like a soldier. I don't want to act like a soldier.
- 11:01Speaker 5: I want to grow my hair, and I want to
- 11:03Speaker 5: listen to loud music. And so that it was inevitable
- 11:08Speaker 5: that an Elvis would be gyrating on TV and the
- 11:11Speaker 5: Beatles would have long hair and the rest of it.
- 11:13Speaker 5: But again, two steps does not justify eleven steps in
- 11:17Speaker 5: a particular direction.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure you can stop it once it starts,
- 11:22Speaker 1: that's why.
- 11:23Speaker 5: Not unless you have a consistent culture. It's like, we've
- 11:29Speaker 5: talked about this a long time. You know why socialism
- 11:32Speaker 5: a form of socialism social democracies worked in the Scandinavian
- 11:36Speaker 5: countries because they were ethnically, religiously and practically to the family, homogeneous.
- 11:43Speaker 5: Everybody knew everybody, everybody was the same, had the same
- 11:46Speaker 5: cultural values. They could all get together and say this
- 11:49Speaker 5: much socialism is okay, but if you exploit the system,
- 11:51Speaker 5: we're going to kick you out.
- 11:53Speaker 4: Okay, we agree.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Well, just like on the sexual stuff, So you start
- 11:58Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty six where they didn't show Elvis below
- 12:01Speaker 1: the waist because it was too suggestive for America to
- 12:04Speaker 1: handle it. Now, porn is everywhere, absolutely everywhere, all the time,
- 12:10Speaker 1: everybody's seen it at every age. M Is there any reasons,
- 12:15Speaker 1: including acts that aren't ever done in the bedroom only
- 12:18Speaker 1: by circus performers. Anyway, you really have to have really
- 12:22Speaker 1: strong calves to be able to pull that off. I'm
- 12:26Speaker 1: what you're talking depending what you're picturing. Is there any
- 12:29Speaker 1: reason to think we won't have in my lifetime? Assuming
- 12:33Speaker 1: I live thirty more years, that's ninety twenty more years.
- 12:36Speaker 1: That's only eighty twenty five more years, um, predicting my lifespan.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Is there any reason to think that we won't have
- 12:48Speaker 1: a woman performing oral sex on a dude on stage
- 12:51Speaker 1: at a concert and that people cheering it could happen, Katie,
- 12:56Speaker 1: any reason to think that won't happen? I mean, if
- 12:58Speaker 1: you look at the from can't show elvis below the
- 13:03Speaker 1: waist to hear it's quite a change, man. I'm sure
- 13:06Speaker 1: it's not out of the question. I don't see what's
- 13:09Speaker 1: going to arrest the direction we're on right right, And
- 13:13Speaker 1: plenty of you'd say, what's the harm if people who
- 13:15Speaker 1: are you know, if it's adults and people you know
- 13:18Speaker 1: paid the ticket? Be and look at Pride in San Francisco.
- 13:21Speaker 1: That happens every year good point, very good.
- 13:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 13:24Speaker 5: Actually yeah, well, and I've been to a live sex
- 13:27Speaker 5: show in Amsterdam, which I have made clear through the
- 13:31Speaker 5: years was about the least sexy thing I've ever seen.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Right, Why was that? How many? First of all, okay,
- 13:40Speaker 1: set the stage, as they say in the stage setting business.
- 13:42Speaker 4: What people?
- 13:44Speaker 1: How many people are in this club?
- 13:47Speaker 4: Oh?
- 13:48Speaker 3: God?
- 13:48Speaker 1: Crowded crowd?
- 13:50Speaker 4: Remember it?
- 13:51Speaker 1: Seedy place? Nice place?
- 13:54Speaker 4: No, it's fairly nice.
- 13:55Speaker 5: My recollection was there were a couple, two, three dozen, okay,
- 14:01Speaker 5: And and it was kind of like stadiumish seating.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Okay, So it's like it's like we're at a okay,
- 14:09Speaker 1: at a storing event.
- 14:10Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were. It was in a way.
- 14:13Speaker 5: And then a man and woman come out on stage,
- 14:15Speaker 5: or they came. They walk out in robes looking completely bored. Dude,
- 14:20Speaker 5: I remember this.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Pardon me?
- 14:22Speaker 1: Are you clapping? Is there music?
- 14:24Speaker 4: I don't remember? I really don't remember. Yeah, I'm sure
- 14:29Speaker 4: there was music.
- 14:29Speaker 5: Yeah, but both of them walk out like they're walking
- 14:32Speaker 5: out of shift the bus tables at you know, your
- 14:34Speaker 5: local chili's or whatever.
- 14:36Speaker 4: They got robes on. They doff the robes.
- 14:38Speaker 5: They they go to it, the you know, switching positions
- 14:42Speaker 5: every so often is chomping gum?
- 14:45Speaker 1: What is there a bed or are they on the stage.
- 14:49Speaker 5: It was some sort of platform, some sort of reasonably
- 14:52Speaker 5: comfortable platform, as I recall, but nude. Seriously the looks,
- 14:56Speaker 5: oh yeah, totally naked, and dude was quite well equipped
- 14:59Speaker 5: for the job. But they both had looks on their
- 15:02Speaker 5: faces like they were working a shift at the drive
- 15:05Speaker 5: through at a not very good fast food place. And
- 15:10Speaker 5: he's chewing his gum, looking like I can't wait till
- 15:13Speaker 5: this is over, and she's like got a blank look
- 15:15Speaker 5: on her face, like she's being used like a sheep.
- 15:18Speaker 4: And it was like, what are we doing here.
- 15:23Speaker 5: Getting the touristas to give up a few shekels to
- 15:27Speaker 5: come with take in what sounds like a great idea
- 15:30Speaker 5: and is absolutely not.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Wonder what that paid for the performers obviously not enough
- 15:37Speaker 1: if they looked like that while they were doing it, Yeah,
- 15:39Speaker 1: you can at least tend to look like.
- 15:42Speaker 4: The news today.
- 15:44Speaker 5: Target right is telling their their employees, Hey, if customer's
- 15:47Speaker 5: near you, smile at him, give them a pleasant look,
- 15:49Speaker 5: don't look like you're in an Amsterdam sex show.
- 15:53Speaker 4: Used like a piece of meat.
- 15:54Speaker 6: Was there like a bell and then they would switch
- 15:56Speaker 6: positions or you know, like Dan there, pros Michael.
- 15:59Speaker 4: They didn't need to be tall.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Yeah, and how long did you sit there? And did.
- 16:06Speaker 5: Not terribly long because they would come out and like
- 16:09Speaker 5: do their their hijinks for a few minutes and then
- 16:13Speaker 5: they'd you know, tip their non existent cap to the
- 16:16Speaker 5: crowd or whatever. All right, that's great, super and then
- 16:19Speaker 5: you know people would leave. I get as I recall
- 16:21Speaker 5: this was a number of years ago, like.
- 16:23Speaker 1: That witally, you see what we do next act the
- 16:26Speaker 1: point I get you to buy drinks, probably keep you
- 16:29Speaker 1: around and have you by.
- 16:30Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, if you like that. No, I
- 16:32Speaker 5: actually didn't. And I'm a big fan of the Beast
- 16:35Speaker 5: with two backs. But no, that was terrible. That reminded
- 16:41Speaker 5: me of how dehumanizing quote unquote sex work is.
- 16:46Speaker 4: That's what it did.
- 16:46Speaker 5: I was there with my coworkers too, which is kind
- 16:48Speaker 5: of funny men and women.
- 16:51Speaker 1: As I recall, did you put that? Did you put
- 16:54Speaker 1: that on the expense card?
- 16:56Speaker 4: I don't think so.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Did the company pay for that? This company know what
- 17:00Speaker 1: they may have team building building?
- 17:03Speaker 5: It was team building because we were all like, what
- 17:06Speaker 5: the f was that? That was back in the day
- 17:09Speaker 5: when you liked your coworkers and had inside jokes and
- 17:13Speaker 5: a couple watch strangers forticate on a stage. Those were
- 17:18Speaker 5: better times.
- 17:19Speaker 4: Sorry, jack, am I undermining your point here.
- 17:22Speaker 1: You should have heckled act like you enjoy it, Good Lord,
- 17:28Speaker 1: not tonight.
- 17:28Speaker 4: I have a headache. Just say that if you don't
- 17:31Speaker 4: want to do this, this sucks. Boo. You call yourself
- 17:35Speaker 4: a forticator Boooo.
- 17:42Speaker 6: All right, I have a theory. The decline happened when
- 17:45Speaker 6: we got color TV. Because it made life seem more exciting.
- 17:49Speaker 6: People went out. They started doing drugs and non sexual positions.
- 17:52Speaker 1: So that so blame color TV. Well, I guess that's it.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Boo.