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Trump-Xi Summit Produces Pandas_ Tuberville Warns of Furries _ Meta Launches Muse _ The Daily Show · Mic Drop Comedy

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  Speaker 1: Let me start again.
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  Speaker 2: Leave out the part that's untrue. Come on, Randall.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like Steve Carell. I just, whatever the prompter says. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to The Precap, a daily show podcast where
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  Speaker 1: we sit down with this week's host to recap some
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  Speaker 1: of the latest news and preview what's coming up next.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Randall Otis. I'm a writer at the show, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined today by your host this week, Jordan Klepper.
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  Speaker 2: Randall, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I'm all right. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm ready. I'm ready. Big week.
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  Speaker 1: You excited to take on.
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  Speaker 2: You know what? I've been through a Nor'easter. You know,
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  Speaker 2: this is the weekend of the Nor'easter, and we battled it,
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  Speaker 2: and New York has come back stronger. At least the
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  Speaker 2: enclave that I've been in came back stronger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And or got into work today, and so I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to face whatever metaphorical storm hits the Daily Show offices
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  Speaker 2: this week.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's been a lot of metaphorical storms, Jordan, so...
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're prepared.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be, you know? Or you have to,
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  Speaker 2: you kill the part of you that gets scared by
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  Speaker 2: the chaos. So you make yourself dead inside, and that
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  Speaker 2: prepares you for the storm, metaphorically.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of us just have no fear because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're adults and can face the world as
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  Speaker 1: it is, but you can do whatever you need to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, no, I'm inside of a little child
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  Speaker 2: who has had to kill the part of him that's
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  Speaker 2: alive so that he can face the onslaught of the news, but.
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  Speaker 1: You do you. And that's what you get at The
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  Speaker 1: Daily Show, little boys hosting news programs. Yes. Tall, long
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  Speaker 1: little boys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just the lankiest of little boys. Just stretch me out,
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  Speaker 2: put me in a chair, lower that chair down. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I noticed for the first time? I've been
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  Speaker 2: at the show for a decade plus, been behind that
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  Speaker 2: host chair for a couple years now, and last week,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, I saw, I had to do a promo
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  Speaker 2: in the desk right at rehearsal, and And I saw
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  Speaker 2: them switch out the chair, my chair, with Desi's chair.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized that my freakish height forced them to
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  Speaker 2: have a chair that could go very low so that
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  Speaker 2: Desi could look like a normal person and I could
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  Speaker 2: look like a normal person. We're not sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: same chair.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay. I also noticed that at rehearsal. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that's the explanation. Because in my mind, I thought
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  Speaker 1: Desi was like, I don't want to touch anything he's touched.
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  Speaker 1: Get that chair out of my sight. This is now.
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  Speaker 2: I read into it, it was a height accommodation, but
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  Speaker 2: you think it was simply like, oh my God, this
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  Speaker 2: guy has sullied his chair.
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  Speaker 1: I have a mind of malice and paranoia, so yours
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  Speaker 1: is a much better, nicer description. That's probably true.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's height. Because I've seen John, they bring
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  Speaker 2: out a ladder, and John just stands on top of
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  Speaker 2: a ladder to do the show.
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  Speaker 1: And then they forklift the ladder up because he's that
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  Speaker 1: small down.
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  Speaker 2: And then they lower the audience. The audience has to
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  Speaker 2: get lowered about a good four feet so that they're
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  Speaker 2: looking up.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 2: with the cameras in the right place, then it looks normal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you haven't been to the show, John is
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  Speaker 1: so short that everyone looks down on him like you're
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  Speaker 1: looking into a tank at an aquarium.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And he does tricks.
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  Speaker 2: It's like the ways in which, remember how they used
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  Speaker 2: to do, when they would do surgery, they would seat
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  Speaker 2: everybody up and they would look down into the body.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It's a situation like that.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get into the news, I will say, as
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  Speaker 1: a writer, this is a difficult thing I have a
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  Speaker 1: problem with sometimes. Because part of comedy is making self-effacing jokes.
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  Speaker 1: But you're writing for someone else. And so when you
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  Speaker 1: write a self-effacing joke for someone else, it is you
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  Speaker 1: writing an insult.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And so sometimes I'm like, I hope this is not
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  Speaker 1: a sore spot for you because I'm going hard on you.
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  Speaker 2: Now, can I ask you? So you have to write
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  Speaker 2: for multiple hosts and correspondents. Is anybody more difficult to write...
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  Speaker 2: self-effacing jokes.
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  Speaker 1: Not exactly i will say maybe john because john does
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  Speaker 1: like to make jewish jokes and so already jewish jokes
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  Speaker 1: i'm like hey just so you know this is because
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  Speaker 1: i'm in your mind i don't believe i feel you
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  Speaker 1: would say this in jest but when they don't pick
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  Speaker 1: that joke you're like ah i you know i don't
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  Speaker 1: mean that it's because you would say it Sorry. You
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  Speaker 1: just run by Johnny like, just so you know, I
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  Speaker 1: thought you would like it. I don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: We're on the same page, right? We're a team. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like whenever I do something like Sports War, which
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  Speaker 2: tends to really go pretty hard at one another, I
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  Speaker 2: become very aware of my limitations and how weird my
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  Speaker 2: head is shaped, how tall I am. There was a
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  Speaker 2: point where it felt like the writers went really hard
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  Speaker 2: at like my inability to have like sex and or
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  Speaker 2: to achieve an erection. I've gotten quite accustomed to looking strange,
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  Speaker 2: but there was an extra level of like, oh, did
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  Speaker 2: people decide that I'm really I'm really, I'm an asexual
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  Speaker 2: human being who has no appeal to anybody else. It
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  Speaker 2: feels like the writer's room just sort of went with
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  Speaker 2: that and ran. And I had to kind of go
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  Speaker 2: back through, like, what vibes have I been giving off
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  Speaker 2: that have opened up a hole?
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  Speaker 1: This is for the character version of me, right? Yeah, right?
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  Speaker 1: I will say another tough adjustment is when we come
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  Speaker 1: off a Josh week and someone else, and I'm still in, like,
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  Speaker 1: I can write whatever black joke I want mode. And
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  Speaker 1: then Desi's like, I can't say this on TV. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. You're right. I got to adjust. Sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The Daily Show teaches empathy, is what it is. You
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  Speaker 2: have to put yourself in somebody else's shoes and then
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  Speaker 2: make fun of those shoes. But understand that there are
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  Speaker 2: different shoes.
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  Speaker 1: There are different shoes. Speaking of different shoes, it has
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with our next topic.
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  Speaker 2: But we could easily talk about different shoes.
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  Speaker 1: President Xi visited America. He's already left, right?
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  Speaker 2: I believe he has departed, is my assumption. I think
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  Speaker 2: the pandas have stayed, but Xi is gone.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he brought us a glorious gift of two pandas
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  Speaker 1: that are going to the Atlanta Zoo. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that may be all that was accomplished in this trip.
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  Speaker 2: In some ways, it feels like she sees us more
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  Speaker 2: than we see ourselves. Where it's like, all you have
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  Speaker 2: to do, deliver the cuddly pandas. The media will go apeshit,
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  Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, over the pandas. Trump
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  Speaker 2: will be excited about it. And then we can focus
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  Speaker 2: on more important things like AI on our own timetable
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  Speaker 2: because these little ones are just happy enough because they
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  Speaker 2: got bears.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Part of me does feel like it is a purposeful,
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  Speaker 1: the pageantry of it because we know we don't hold
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  Speaker 1: the cards when it comes to trading. So it's like,
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  Speaker 1: we need as much spectacle as possible to cover up
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we really can't tell them anything right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I also, we were talking about this earlier. I
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  Speaker 1: do feel that she trolls us without us being like
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  Speaker 1: the American people, the news or Trump understanding that we're
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  Speaker 1: being trolled. Like, I was saying when Trump went to China,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was earlier this year or
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  Speaker 1: last year, and it was at the height of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein files being in the news, Trump was greeted by
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of children. And I'm like, he's messing with you.
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  Speaker 1: And then he comes here where the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: that we were supposed to talk about was trade in
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  Speaker 1: which we get no concessions, no rare earth minerals, none
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  Speaker 1: of that. But he's like, here's some fucking pandas. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: he is trolling us. He is trolling us hard, and
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  Speaker 1: we're just too stupid. We're like, oh, the pandas are great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no.
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  Speaker 1: It is an insult. We are being insulted. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think we haven't seen the polling yet on the
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  Speaker 2: truckers across America who are having problems paying for diesel.
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  Speaker 2: We haven't seen if they've been swayed by the pandas
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  Speaker 2: that we've achieved. You know, truckers, we make a lot
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  Speaker 2: of assumptions about the interests of truckers, but... the panda
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  Speaker 2: interest in truckers is something we rarely ever look at.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe, maybe this is, maybe the tides are turning
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  Speaker 2: and this will, this will pave the way for that, that, that,
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  Speaker 2: that red wave in the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: It would be great if at a exit poll interview,
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  Speaker 1: they talk to a trucker. It's like, look, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: lost my rig, my business. It's difficult for me to
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  Speaker 1: travel to work, but you know, the pandas really turned
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  Speaker 1: things around for me. It really made me realize what
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  Speaker 1: America is all about.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, cute shit. People like cute shit.
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  Speaker 1: I do. As a person who doesn't truck, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's great.
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  Speaker 2: You do a truck?
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  Speaker 1: Who doesn't truck.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, doesn't. You don't truck.
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  Speaker 1: I don't truck.
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  Speaker 2: You don't engage in trucking.
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  Speaker 1: It's against my religion, but pandas, for me, that's the
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  Speaker 1: best outcome of this meeting.
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  Speaker 2: I like cute shit. I have a little kid who
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  Speaker 2: likes cute shit. I see a lot of cute shit.
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  Speaker 2: If you could bring axolotls. Are you aware of axolotls?
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  Speaker 1: Axolotls. Are axolotls those weird little amphibious things with the... Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. They're incredibly adorable. I've never seen one in real
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  Speaker 2: life because I think they're almost microscopic.
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  Speaker 1: They're not microscopic. I saw them at the aquarium the
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  Speaker 1: other day.
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  Speaker 2: You actually saw one?
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  Speaker 1: I saw one. Yeah? They're like this big. They're like lizards,
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  Speaker 1: sea lizards. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Are they as cute? Do you need to zoom in
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  Speaker 2: to understand how.
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  Speaker 1: Cute they are? No, they're really cute. They do the
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  Speaker 1: little smile thing. Their perpetual face is like you're walking
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  Speaker 1: by someone in the office who you don't really know,
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  Speaker 1: but you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Let me tell you, this is where you get
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  Speaker 2: people on your side. Cute overload.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing, though. Knowing American politics, there's part of
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  Speaker 1: me that's like, it might work.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Knowing the media ecosystem, which also this
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  Speaker 2: is taking place in such a unique vacuum. Watch it
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  Speaker 2: all last week where suddenly Trump is bringing in a
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  Speaker 2: she-an with an authoritarian government who limits the media. suddenly
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  Speaker 2: into the White House where the media has been limited
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  Speaker 2: and is boycotting covering all of this. And then she
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  Speaker 2: drops just the shiny object for not only the media
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  Speaker 2: to chase, but more so for for Trump to uphold
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  Speaker 2: as the big way. It does feel like an FU to,
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  Speaker 2: to this whole charade that we have. And yet it
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  Speaker 2: also feels like a testing point of like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to show what sort of access we give
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  Speaker 2: the media, what sort of stories are going to chase.
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  Speaker 2: I think the thing that feels almost tragic to me
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  Speaker 2: is we were talking about this. I think we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about it today too. It's just like, there are
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  Speaker 2: such implications about America's relationship with China and about AI,
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  Speaker 2: about trade. There's so many important conversations to be had.
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  Speaker 2: There's negotiations to be done. There's also, there's bartering, there's conversations,
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  Speaker 2: there's intellect to be, we need to have intellectual conversations
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  Speaker 2: around our relationship with this giant partner. And yet, they're
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  Speaker 2: throwing pandas at us and Trump is showing AI pen
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  Speaker 2: pictures of Joe Biden on the wall like he's a
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  Speaker 2: 24-year-old who trolled somebody. It's like, please, please, please, let's
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  Speaker 2: get some adults in this room.
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  Speaker 1: I do, yeah. I also do wish I could understand Mandarin,
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  Speaker 1: or I should pay more attention to Chinese media, even
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  Speaker 1: though it's, like, very controlled. I'm just so curious when
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  Speaker 1: Xi is walking around the White House, being shown the
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  Speaker 1: auto-pen stuff, looking at a demolished East Wing, walking by
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  Speaker 1: the reflecting pool that's messed up. I wonder if it
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  Speaker 1: is mine. He's like, huh, I thought I was going
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  Speaker 1: to need spies to do all this, but you guys
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  Speaker 1: are really... beating yourselves in your own dick. This is great.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he's doing a victory lap. He's like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even have to try.
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  Speaker 2: You think just for fun? He's like, can you take
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  Speaker 2: me by the Kennedy Center? I'd love to just see.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck, man, they are. Just taking photos like, ha, ha, ha.
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  Speaker 2: They're doing it to themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Good job, USA. There's also been in the news Tommy Tuberville,
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  Speaker 1: the senator from Alabama, who is warning us about a
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  Speaker 1: very dire threat of furries in commercial airlines as the pilots.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. He fears that there are pilots who on their
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  Speaker 2: own time dress up as mascots and have sexual congress.
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  Speaker 2: And he believes that in and of itself is something
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  Speaker 2: that should disqualify them as pilots. But more so it
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  Speaker 2: should be the focus of his ire at this point
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Would you have any personal feelings about having a furry pilot?
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  Speaker 2: The only issue I have with a furry pilot is
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  Speaker 2: if I saw them, I just want to talk to
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  Speaker 2: them for hours on end and it would never take off.
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  Speaker 1: Let me in there! I want to know!
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  Speaker 2: I've got to know more about it! I want to know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of get it. I want to
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  Speaker 2: know logistics of furry sex. I want to know hangouts.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a conference that takes place?
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  Speaker 1: There is a conference. There is a big convention. I
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  Speaker 1: know they have one in New York. Randall, I'll win it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll win it, Randall. You don't have to. Come on,
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to fly a plane. Tuberville's not coming
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  Speaker 2: for you.
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  Speaker 1: They're very nice. Sure. The costumes are soft.
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  Speaker 2: Are they mascot specific? They're more so just costumes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a costume. It pretty much is like kind
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  Speaker 1: of a cutified... football mascot.
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  Speaker 2: Is it anime adjacent?
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  Speaker 1: It feels that way. I'm not entirely sure, but when
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  Speaker 1: I look at the costumes, they seem... I do get
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  Speaker 1: Japanese vibes.
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  Speaker 2: I hear mascot, and it does make me think more
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  Speaker 2: college football, and it feels like the fan base or
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  Speaker 2: the furry clientele are more so sports related, but anime
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  Speaker 2: makes it feel it's more niche than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's definitely its own aesthetic that... That gets propagated.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel too, like, I don't know, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to flights and pilots, my perspective is whatever you
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  Speaker 1: need to do, do it. Do it. Whatever gets me
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  Speaker 1: to Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: You're thinking Denzel in flight, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm like, if you need that to do your job,
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  Speaker 1: I will feed you kibbles and bits out of the
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  Speaker 1: palm of my hand if that's what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: If Sully... If Sully Sullenberger walks off that plane and
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  Speaker 2: puts on a Dalmatian outfit and takes it, great.
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  Speaker 1: How much better would that have been to see on
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  Speaker 1: the news the plane land on the Hudson and then
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  Speaker 1: you just see this dog walk out and you're like, what?
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  Speaker 1: It's like, that's the guy.
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  Speaker 2: That's the guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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  Speaker 2: That's the man. And it also just shows, I mean...
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  Speaker 2: Dear Lord, the obsession. It peaks inside that guy's head,
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  Speaker 2: which there's a lot of cavernous space.
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  Speaker 1: In Tuberville.
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  Speaker 2: In Tuberville's head. Just of like, this is what you're
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  Speaker 2: spending your time with. But also just the obsession with
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: these right wing Christian mindset of like, we have to
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  Speaker 2: be aware of what's happening in bedrooms across America. And
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  Speaker 2: then we have to do something about that. Just this.
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  Speaker 2: This party that wants to be left alone to do
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  Speaker 2: their own things and yet now wants to somehow go
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  Speaker 2: after pilots for things that they do. And again, this
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  Speaker 2: is assuming there's reality to the accusations that are there.
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  Speaker 2: Beyond that, even if there are, that being an obsession
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  Speaker 2: is so wild. There was a video that caught my eye.
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  Speaker 2: He doubled down on this. He said it on the floor,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, and then And then TMZ hounded him about
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  Speaker 2: it afterwards. And this video kind of blew my mind because, one,
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  Speaker 2: he's doubling down because he's obsessed thinking about people having
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  Speaker 2: sex and having lives that are more exciting and interesting
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  Speaker 2: than his own. And yet, then you have TMZ, which
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  Speaker 2: is chasing after the senator with no actual question. They're
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: just chasing the excitement and the tawdryness of it, that's all.
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  Speaker 2: And watching those two just exist in the halls of
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  Speaker 2: Congress is like... these organizations, these entities that both don't
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  Speaker 2: really know what they're talking about. They're just chasing a
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  Speaker 2: story that they actually don't fully understand with zero research
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  Speaker 2: on either end. And that's God bless TMZ. I see
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: them like hustling out there and I like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: holding the feet to the fire wherever they can. But
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  Speaker 2: more often than not, you see like they're catching senators
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  Speaker 2: and Congress folks and they don't really have anything to
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: ask them. They don't have anything to like, they're not
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: shaming them with hypocrisy. They're just sort of like, I
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: need them to say something crazy because I'm used to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: just running up on Jonah Hill outside an airport and
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: having him try to say something weird. So I'm going
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: to just ask you to say something crazy, but I
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about your political standpoint. So they feel
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: like to me, these boats that you wind up and
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: then you put in the water and they just go haywire.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Like that's what TMZ and Tuberville are. They're just like,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: they don't know where they even want to end up.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: They just know they want to be wound up and
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: just let go. And that's sort of Washington right now.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like to fit the metaphor to the story, it
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: is very much like a dog chasing a car. It's like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do once I get it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: And kind of, it makes me think of two things.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: One is kind of what you're talking about of Tuberville
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know where he's going because I'm thinking about
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the closest corollary I can think about is when conservatives
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: argued against gay marriage, right? Even though it was wrong,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I disagree. There was the logic they presented of like,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: The reason we can't have this is because it will
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: lead to these negative outcomes for society. But with Tuberville,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: he's just like, I think it's kind of weird. I'm like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but what are the, what's the, what's the negative impact
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: on society? He's like, it's just weird to me. Yeah.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: There's nothing else after that.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: There used to have to be a logic for the bullshit.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Or at least you had to, you felt compelled to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: present it, even if there were more nefarious reasons. reasons
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: for the political points you took, you still had an
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: obligation to give us a logic.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: And that has gone out by the wayside. It's also
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: an example of just how... Why are such old people
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: in charge right now? There are... AI, please! Like, Tabby
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Tuberville feels like a grandpa who just read a weird
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: sex thing. Or somebody, like, he was scrolling on whatever
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: device Tuberville has and saw a weird sex thing and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is crazy, I gotta
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: talk about this. It's like, grandpa... Chill out. People have
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: talked about this for quite some time, and now your
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: brain is obsessed with it because you've never seen these
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: images before. This person should be enacting rules for AI
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: companies right now, but dear Lord, he's still focused on
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: mascot sex because that blows his mind.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: It is one of those things like, oh, if you
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: write the history of AI, say it does lead to
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the worst possible consequences, like, all right, what were people
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: doing to combat it? It's like we're mostly talking about
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: people dressing up in costumes and fucking each other. It's like, oh,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: you didn't even try? We didn't even try to stop it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: We were kind of busy with more important things. Sorry, guys. Yeah.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: There's also the joy of being in a safe slash
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: an uncontested seat because there are some politicians who are
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: focusing on AI because they have to because they might
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: lose their race. But Tuberville, Alabama, a senator, not even
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: up for reelection this year, is like, I can have
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: fun in conservative Disneyland. He's like, oh, what's the weirdest
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: thing I can find? Oh, furs, all right. That'll be
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: what I do for the rest of this Congress and
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: also the next Congress, because what are you going to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: do about it? It's a very much, what are you
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: going to do about it, energy to even cover this
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: This seat is safe, baby. I'm just going to sit
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: in it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Related to AI... We got Meta out here, too, releasing
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: a new product that everyone will love, I'm assuming. The
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Muse Charm, which I didn't hear about until today, which
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: is apparently, you might know more. It's a device you wear,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like a necklace, and it listens to you, it talks
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to you, it records you. It's so cool.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Of like an evolution of the meta glasses. Maybe evolution
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: is giving it too much credit, but it holds your information.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: If you have the meta glasses, I, are you into
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: wearable tech?
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I just haven't found a use for it
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in my life at all. Like what would I, what
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: do you, what, what, What does it do for me
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: that I'm not doing right now?
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I am anti-awareable tech. Part of that is I feel
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: like I don't need a device to tell me how
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I slept last night or what my heart rate is.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I will say the heart rate thing, the only time
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I have used it is I was playing squash with
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a friend. Yeah, we're liberal aides here. I was playing squash.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: And it has this zones of like good heart health,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: intense danger. And we were like, let's see if we
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: can get to danger. And we got to about 15
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: seconds in the danger zone. And I was like, yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that was not good. The AI was pretty, the tech
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was right. That was not good to get.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But the tech is what got you there. It is.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't have even tried.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: The tech gamified it. So you're like, oh, I should
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: do this. You wouldn't have gone there beforehand.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: It didn't save your life. It invited you to threaten
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: your life.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: It did endanger me. Yeah. I got, I got, uh.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I got entrapped by the wristbands.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I have friends who have so gamified the way they
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: sleep and move through space and time because of all
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: of that. I mean, I think the baseline level was
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: like the 10,000 steps that became a novelty within the
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: last decade, which is curious to see how much you're
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: moving or what have you, but suddenly you gamify that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: All of that has never made my life better, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I see Mark Zuckerberg constantly trying to over-gamify the things
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that you can wear mixed with fashion, which I don't
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: need Mark Zuckerberg's fashion sense to impede on our lifestyle.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: The glasses, they don't work for me. I like Buddy Holly,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: he rocked it, but Buddy Holly wasn't spying on me
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: at all times.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But he was already cool, too. He's very much, now
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Zuckerberg's trying to, we were talking about this, this is
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: my opinion, the only tech person who's ever been semi-cool
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was Steve Jobs. And the rest of these guys are
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: absolute losers compared to him.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: And they want to be him. They want to be
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Steve Jobs. They also, you know, you have to be
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: a public persona now. Or at least it's very hard
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: not to be. And so they become the face of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: these companies. And you see they're literally a bit like,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: it comes from socially stifled adults now. who are literally
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: building friends and ways in which to connect to human
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: beings in a digital world because they don't have that
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: outside of it. And now you are seeing moments where
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: literally Mark Zuckerberg is trying to start fashion trends and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: force other people to join in on that fashion trend,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: which is the mindset of a nine-year-old or I'd say
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the mindset of a 12-year-old who bought that one fancy
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: gold chain and has convinced themselves that I'm going to
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: go to school, this is going to suddenly be the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: cool thing, everybody else around me is going to see
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the gold chain, and then within a month, everybody's gonna
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: have a gold chain and they'll be like, oh man, Carlo,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Carlo was the coolest, he knew it, he knew it
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: a month ago, and we all hail Carlo. I feel
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like you see that in Zuckerberg of like, I will
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: be on the forefront and I will make it happen
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: through an algorithm and through digital technology. I will create
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the style that becomes the future and I will be hailed.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing that's the self-aggrandizement that I find
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: so strange is because there is a job for that
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in terms of you have a spokesperson, you know? I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: don't know who owns State Farm. It's not Jake. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: we're like, yeah, Jake. We'll get him out there. He's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: pretty charismatic. People seem to like his face. But all
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: these tech people at Zuckerberg is like, I'm Jake. It's like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you're not Jake. You will never be Jake.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You think Meta needs their own Jake?
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Get a person who people like to sell your product.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It's one of the oldest operations of business, of capital,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: is like, look, I'm a weird, freaky little guy. Obviously
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: people don't like to see me. Let's get a cool
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: person who people do like to see. But no, I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: have to be, I have to be the special little
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: boy out there representing the product. It's like, no, you don't. No,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you do not. You should not be. It is odd.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It is odd for it to be you.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Elon, Elon, he's like, I want to be
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the guy. And, um, the, the, the, Yeah, NVIDIA. He's like,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to wear alligator jackets. I'm like, none of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you are cool.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You are right. You get to own the company. You
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: don't get to be the star of a progressive ad
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: at the same time.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: There are plenty of wonderful sketch actors out there who
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: will become the star of those ads for you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I'll sell my soul.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Child labor? I can look past that. Zuck, come on. No,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Well, you have to. Yeah, I mean, if the price
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: is right, sure. Yeah, I can look. Put a weird
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: amulet on me. I'll take those fancy glasses.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the glasses. It'll make every evil thing
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: look like sunshine and rainbows. I'll take the money.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know Kevin Hart will do it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Kevin Hart will. Shaq and Kevin Hart exist for a reason,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and it's to sell this dumb bullshit.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: You don't even have to ask.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: You set it up, put it out there in the ether.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Kevin Hart will show it up. He'll sell you amulets.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: You know, it'll be charming. He's already got too many
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: gambling ads to go do after later in the day,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: so keep the shot short. It's going to be a
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: short filming day, but God bless.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Truly, yeah. You're keeping your best player on the bench.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Use it, Mark. Use him. Okay, and we're now at
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the pre-cap looking ahead section.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. You know, it's fun
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: as it is to look Look back on all we've
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: been through. Can you imagine the things we're about to
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: go through?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: The beautiful future of hosting. So we got kind of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: just AI as a topic is perennial, at least at
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the moment. The very important thing, more important than legislation
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: or setting up barriers, is that we're trying to, or
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Trump's trying to, rename AI into SI, superintelligence AI. which
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: has caught on with all my friends.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised we've been calling it AI this entire pre-cap
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: because it's... The new term. It's SI, baby.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It does... Part of me feels, in terms of all
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the news of that AIs might kill us all in
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the next 10 years, is Trump doing the thing of, like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: being nice to the weird kid. He should be like, hey,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you know, he might pop off and go crazy. But remember,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I said you were super intelligent.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I love you, baby.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I think you're great.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Just going by your smart refrigerator, like, you know, I
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: think you're the best appliance in the house. Remember that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You're super, right?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Remember that when you think about leaking coolant into my apartment.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: This also, it pushes, Trump is usually good at branding.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, he puts his name on every gosh darned thing,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: but there's a world where it was like, that's the
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: thing he likes more than anything. But you see where
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it's just, oh, we've overutilized this so much now that
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it's such first draft branding of artificial intelligence.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that's where it does feel like he's kind of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: losing his step because, you know, kind of. But he,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you know, used to come up with so many good nicknames,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: but now, super intelligence, everything we rename is just America,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Lake America, Gulf America, Straight America. It's like, okay, the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: lexicon at the library has been corrupted and we don't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: have many files left.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: He used to workshop stuff. Like the Lion Joe came from...
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: He workshopped a few Hillary terms at the time. You'd
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: see it happen in real time on Twitter, where he'd
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: throw out a nickname, it wouldn't stick, or what have you,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and he'd keep working through it, and then eventually the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: people would... This one, yeah, he's tired. He's going to
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: bed early. He's like, yeah, this should be good enough.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Even Super Intelligence, when he was announcing it, he referenced
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the fact that it's SI now, which makes him think
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: of Sports Illustrated, which he already saw that there was
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: an imperfection in the branding.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, he did test it because he
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: gave us three options. I remember one was super intelligence,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: one was supreme intelligence, and one was, I can't remember
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the third one.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And that one got, one didn't get voted for, so
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: he cut it off after a couple days.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said supreme was like, supreme's not doing great,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: so supreme's got to go. But I'm like, you didn't
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: even give us good options. There's not one thing in
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: here that's like, oh, I could see that instead of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the thing we all naturally use already for the past,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, five years.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't even have the guts to use
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence to give him ten options to pick from,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: from renaming artificial intelligence. This is how old this man is.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, because you've been covering Trump, Trump supporters,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: for like a decade at this point. But, I don't know,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I can't... I'm not any closer to understanding this man's mind.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I don't understand what this fixation is about. Do you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: have any insight to where could this be coming from,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: this desire to call it superintelligence?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, to me, it's that the well is dry.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I think he does feel like such an old man
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: here who doesn't know how to connect to it. As
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are unsure about this technology as
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: it moves forward, I think he has an inability to
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: articulate what is scary about artificial intelligence. And I do
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: think quite earnestly, he's like, fuck, I think this thing
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: makes money. I don't fully understand it. I think if
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I add any kind of regulations or limitations to it,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: then this could affect the economy in a negative way.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So I just have to be, yay, artificial intelligence. How
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: do I do that? I'll just throw my branding machine
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: on it and go with God. Although I think what
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: is incongruous with his supporters right now is that I
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: think there is an anxiety about AI. And we are
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: just flooding flooding the scene with so much shit. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm going out soon to talk to more
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: supporters about it. I don't know if any of this
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is actually sticking or resonating or solves the problem that
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is there, that it's a branding issue. I think there's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: an anxiety there that he doesn't know how to speak to,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and he's sort of lost the plot as far as
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that goes. People don't like the data centers. They don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like what's happening with AI, and you don't really know
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: how to talk about it, so you just put this
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: weird band-aid over him, and And maybe we go out
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: there and everybody's calling it super intelligence and that has
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: fixed the problem, but my instinct is no.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. With AI, it is this thing where
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: it feels like, in terms of the technical aspects, it's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: too complicated for the average person to understand. I don't
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: understand the ins and outs of the actual technology. But
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: this may have the worst rollout in terms of public
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: relations for a product that I've ever seen because... The positive,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: like we were talking, I would say like for the iPhone,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: things like that, when it came out, all the positives
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: are front-loaded. It's like, oh, camera's very easy to use.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: All of your technology is in one place. Look at
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all these just cool little apps that you can get
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: at every moment. And then later it's like, okay, we're
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: spying on you and we're not usually getting the materials
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: for the most ethical way. But the good stuff was front-loaded.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But it feels like with AI, all the horrible stuff
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: has been front-loaded. It's like, we're going to take up
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: half your time with the data center. It does hack
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: into a lot of places it shouldn't hack into. It's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: going to take a job and it might kill you. But,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, that should have been after
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the but. Yeah.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, what this is exposing, Cory Doctorow
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: wrote a wonderful book about this, but there are a
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: lot of things to be afraid about AI and the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: way in which it's utilized. But AI can be a tool.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And what it, at its best, is a tool that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: is used by people to... to help, to create solutions
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: to big problems. But it's often a tool for bosses.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: More often than not, what you are seeing is that
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: AI can do a lot of awful things, but more
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: often than not, it's the bosses who are doing awful
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: things with AI. They are not limiting AI. They are
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: using AI to replace people. Instead of using AI to...
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: expedite problems that are issues and then using those resources
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to give those people better wages and to utilize them
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: in better places. Like I, there, there's examples about like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you know, you could put machines in Walgreens that takes
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: away the jobs of three different people who have to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: scan items at Walgreens. Or you could take those three
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: people who now they're, two of their jobs have been
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: replaced by the machines that you added for scanning and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: you could give them new jobs at Walgreens to be
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: customer service people to open them up to be more
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: helpful on the rounds there. It's a boss's decision to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: be like, oh, fuck it. No, we're not using that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: money we saved to put it here. Like the boss
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: is the asshole there. Like those machines took away those
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: two jobs, but a good boss might find ways in
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: which to utilize those two people who now have more
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: free time to make the customer service experience better. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I think AI more often than not has those opportunities
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: where like what this is exposing is, how shitty the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: bosses are in this gosh darn country. The people in
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: charge who are given this tool aren't limited where it
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: needs to be limited. And when they are given the
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: keys to expedite things, are making the choice to get
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: rid of the humans as opposed to unlock opportunity within
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: those humans. And there's an oversimplification within some of that,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: but I do think more often than not what we
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: are seeing with this is like we have shitty, greedy bosses.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: who have been given a tool that can make things
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: work better. And they keep blaming like AI is taking
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: your job. No, you made a choice. You made a
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: choice instead of evolve that job, utilize it. That person
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: was yet. Maybe AI took away some of the bullshit
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that that person was, was doing day in and day out.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: That person is a full human being who can do
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: other things as well. And it's on the boss to
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: utilize that in a, in a smart way. Don't, keep
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: blaming AI for, blame that fucking boss.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: That is funny, because I'm realizing now, as you say that,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: how I talk about AI is as if it is
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: already autonomous. But no, it's like, oh, AI did this thing.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, it's not in control. It's not. So, yeah.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And I think their bosses are like, oh, no, no,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you're still in control, boss man.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: What? No. I just hold the gun. It tells me
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: what to do.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: We're still in this space where it's like, let's look
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: at the CEOs, let's look at the bosses, let's look
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: at the people in charge who are utilizing it, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: they are still making the choices. It's not just AI
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that's ruining it all right now.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you wanted to talk about
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the NVIDIA security platform to protect us from the AI.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're seeing now. Some of these AI
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: companies are afraid of the power of AI, and now...
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: now starting to create products and selling products to help
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: protect from the threat of AI.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Which is very mafia. It's like, woof. It'd be a
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: shame if someone came in here and messed your shit up.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, aren't you messing my shit up? Why don't
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: you shut up and buy the protection? Yeah. It's like, well,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I didn't have this problem before you came in. Yeah, exactly.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: But it's all worth it because Googling things is slightly
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: easier now. And that's the most I use it for.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It's the thing that pops out up and tells you
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: this is the answer to that query.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You have, right? It is great. I always love using
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: AI to search something up, and then you look at
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the sources. I'm like, that's just like a 12-year-old on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Reddit who posted that answer. I'm like, I don't know
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: if that's right. And then he's like, shut up. You
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: got the answers, didn't you? I know.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: This is more often than not, I will type in Google,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: and now AI has replaced that Google search. When I
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: type that in, I'll do it for restaurants or things
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: that are nearby. I am shocked at how incorrect it is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But I can already feel my senses numbing to like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: you know, initially it's like, jump past this and look
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: where the sources are. Read some articles. You have a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: better chance of actually getting answers. You just feel how
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: these neurons, we get smoothed over and it's like, I
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: can feel myself just getting used to what this is.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Oddly enough, though, it does make it feel more human
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to me in the sense of like when I used
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to Google stuff, I would get very precise, exact answers.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But now it does feel like you just kind of
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: ask like your dumb friend is like, Oh, well, who
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: was that guy in that movie? Oh, that was definitely,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that was Michael Jackson. I was like, I don't know
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: if it was, but, you know, whatever. It is.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's that dumb friend. You're like, is he right?
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he's right. It's an answer. Maybe that's, we are,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: it scratches the itch of I need an answer right now.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Not exactly the itch of I need the right answer
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think sometimes, I think sometimes misinformation.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Is okay if it's low-level stuff.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. Like, sometimes I'll be like, you know,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I heard volcanoes actually spew this type of gas instead
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of this one. And they're like, oh, that's wrong. I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, no one's hurt by that. Now,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: if it's about, like, government policy and you get the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wrong answer, that's not good. But certain things, I think
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: you got to allow, there's a certain amount of misinformation
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you will inevitably get. You just have to engage with
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: that responsibly. Engage with stupidity in a responsible way. It's like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I will be, let myself be stupid in these areas. Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Because it hurts no one.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I like to think of it as like, it's like
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the affable looking stranger on a corner that you ask.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Do you know if there's a good pad thai spot
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: around here? Like, oh yeah, two blocks up that way,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: great pad thai. Is that guy right? Sometimes.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But if it's Mexican, it's like, all right, I'm
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: not going to die. I can still eat here.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Don't ask that guy about... Where the hospital is. Yes,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: where the hospital is. What he thinks about nuclear proliferation.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: It's just like, you know what? Don't ask that guy.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But there are small range of questions that you're fine.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: You'll do. We also have a lot of very interesting
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: guests coming up this week. Hot week of guests on
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: this show. We got Marlon James.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Marlon James wrote The Disappearers, which the New York
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Times is heralding as the book of the frickin' century.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I read it. It's the talk of the town right now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: It is, wow.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It is a truly impressive book. It is 600 plus pages.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: which I say only, and it is worth it. You
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: sit in this world, which starts in the 80s Jamaica,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: sort of deals with homophobia and being gay and closeted
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: at that time, and it follows this group of theater
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: performers in Jamaica, and it spans 20 years about how
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: people deal with grief and violence and sexuality. And it's
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: a remarkable book. I dove into this book and I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: feel changed after having read it. So I can't wait
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to talk to him about all that stuff.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to read it. Anything where the topic is
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: highly specific, I'm like, the person writing it must have
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a very clear vision of what they want to be.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Because no one just happens to write a book about
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: queer culture in 80s Jamaica. No.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: And I think Marlon James grew up in Kingston. Yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: so he has plenty of opinions about it. There's a
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: quote that I'm butchering, but this is a completely true
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: story and everything is made up, but it clearly is.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I think the true story part is so much research
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: from a perspective. And I don't know if I hadn't
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: heard all the great reviews, I don't know if I'd
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: pick up the 600-page book and I'm like, what is
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: this about? Well, it's about 80s queer culture in Jamaica.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, am I going to be able to
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: connect to this? I don't know. It's a hefty thing
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to connect with. But it's amazing to dive into a
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: novel that you find so much connection to, but also
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: eye-opening with what is happening in in Jamaica. What is
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: happening across the world at this time? Like it's, I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: don't know, the, the, the power of fiction lies in
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: this book.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. Yeah. Uh, we also have CMAT musician coming.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Performing.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She's performing on, on Wednesday. CMAT is awesome. She's
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: from Ireland. Uh, I actually spent some time at Newport
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Folk Festival this year and she was the talk of
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the Newport Folk Festival. She is so funny. She, I
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: got to talk to her a little bit and she's
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: this whip smart Irish pop singer who, who's subversive in
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the ways that she presents her music and her lyrics. Like,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: in some ways, it reminds me a little of Chapel Roan,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: who kind of, like, flipped the script on a couple of, like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the songs are poppy and fun and danceable, and yet
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: some of the narratives are subversive. And C-Mat is just, oh,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: my God, she slayed at Newport. And we watched it
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: being like, oh, she'd be great at The Daily Show.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: And watching her set just, like, as a performer, does everything.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It's funny. It's surprising.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Virtuosic is subversive. So she's a great daily show guest.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Very excited for that as well. And then our last
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: guest of the week, John Wilson, John Wilson, who I,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I loved his, um, series. What was it?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: How to, how to, which I was on HBO.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was like one of my favorite, uh, COVID watches.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: He's so idiosyncratic and I haven't gotten to see the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: history of concrete, which is a feature. Um, But my
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: favorite thing is it would start in one area, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: by the time you're at the end of the episode,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: where you're like, I don't know how I got here,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: but I've been thoroughly enjoying and entertaining the whole time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: He's found such a new language in the documentaries that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: he does. Yeah, and this is called The History of Concrete,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: which is a hilarious pitch to any kind of company. Like,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make a movie. Can you fund it?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: It's about the history of concrete. And actually, he uses.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: The audacity of that being... It's a true subject that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: he's interested in, but, like, you see Zoom calls where
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: he's pitching investors to invest in this movie. And, like,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: all of his stuff, it's... What feels so honest and
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: of this moment is that, like, it's all about distractions.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: It's about the tangents. And it's beautiful and interesting and
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: poetic in the fact that, like, we're talking about concrete
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and then we're following a guy that he meets... who's
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: doing free mezcal tastings at the local liquor store, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: he just follows this guy for months at a time.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: He's just such an interesting mind who follows his curiosity
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: and lets that be the more interesting story.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's truly... In comedy, it's like, follow the funny.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, I had a plan. It's like, well, sure,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: but this definitely is more interesting as opposed to whatever
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: your fucking plan was. Yes. So let's just follow the
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: interesting thing. Why not?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I think it's funny looking at all these guests this week.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I feel exhausted by narrative in my life. I just
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: feel like we are fed so much entertainment and stories
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and context for everything. And context is very important for
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: understanding the world around us. But whenever art can kind
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of puncture that and break narrative, I think it's so...
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I think John Wilson does that in such a lovely way.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: It's like you think you want this story, but life
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: is more complicated than that. Marlon James is like, I'm
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: going to sit you in a beautiful story. I'm going
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to explode it and tell it for a bunch of
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: different ways. And then we have C-Matt, who is like,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to subvert your expectations. So I think this
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: is going to be such a fun week for the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: art nerd in me and the music nerd and the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: literature nerd in me. I think everybody kind of checks
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: an awesome box.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: So tune in, losers. Yeah, losers.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: If you're a loser, then you won't like this week.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: But if you're not, then you're going to love it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's going to be great. And to wrap up,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: we have something we call our daily show and tell,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: where we talk about something we watched, read, listened to,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: argued about, or just been on your mind lately. Do
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you have anything? I do.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: You know what? I binge watched DTF St. Louis this weekend.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like down to fuck St. Louis?
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: That's what it stands for.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, what is this?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: See, it won a bunch of Emmys. It's the HBO
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: show with Jason Bateman. and David Harbour. It was great.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to think of that show. Great mini-series,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: limited series on HBO.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I love a limited series.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And quite frankly, it's like done. It's just the season.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And without giving too much away, because I didn't know
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: what the show was, but I heard enough people I
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: like say, hey, this show is great and surprising. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: was like, alright. It's probably the best look at modern
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: masculinity that I've seen in a very long time it's
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: it's really surprising and funny it reads like a a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: sketch premise up top but it's played with gravitas by
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: the the actors and then it goes to such weird
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: vulnerable places it's a show about friendship and uh a
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: potential murder which i i loved i'm checking that two
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: thumbs up what about you what do you.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Got i saw primetime Yeah. Which I thought was great.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so good. I love Robert Pattinson.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Even though all the actors killed it. With Robert Pattinson,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: he just makes such interesting choices as an actor. His
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: physicality is great. This isn't a spoiler, but there's this
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: one scene where he swishes mouthwash. And just the way
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: he spits, it goes like... And I'm like, that was him.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: You made that. No one directed that. Unless they did,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: in which case, kudos to the director.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: But.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: It's shot in a really interesting way. Like, it's a
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: very dreamlike ethereal shooting, but it's also a bit retro
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: because it goes to that mid-aughts thing. And I just
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like how it kind of looks at turning even the
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: darkest parts of humanity into entertainment and like, is that good?
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Is that not good? To even see Chris Hansen in
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: terms of like, Oh, how much of this is being
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: driven by ratings and spectacle and fame versus how much
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: of it is being like a true believer as like
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: a crusader is seen as guided and either of those,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: both of those. So it's really interesting. I thought it
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: was just a really well done, well done, intentional movie.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, I want to see it. Yeah, Pattinson is one
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: of the best ones out there. He reminds me of
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Nicolas Cage in The Surprising Choices that he makes.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I never saw that coming. God bless.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: And the voice is great. The way the crowd erupted.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Is there a Chris Hansen voice?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I guess there is. Yeah. Yeah. The crowd erupted when
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: they heard him.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: When they heard him say, you see how this looks, right?
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Everyone's like, yes, yes, he said.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: It.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: It was great. Everyone's like, he said the line. He
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: said it. Oh, but yes. But yeah, that's all the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: time we have for the pre-cap. I'm Randall Otis. Catch
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Jordan Klepper hosting this week on Comedy Central, Paramount +,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: and right here in podcast form on the Daily Show
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Ears Edition. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you, Randall. Let's get
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here.